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willie
01-18-2005, 04:28 PM
For real though. I thought I was gonna have a heart attack.

jajaja, and that was only the 1 round... :angel:

go nalby!

fabolous
01-18-2005, 04:47 PM
oumph that was close. but you see, rosie, i said he'll win and he did.:) and to make you happy, i say that he'll win against ventura, too.

btw ventura is from spain. i know him cause he won the ATP casablanca last year. i think he's rather a clay court specialist.

*Ljubica*
01-18-2005, 04:50 PM
oumph that was close. but you see, rosie, i said he'll win and he did.:) and to make you happy, i say that he'll win against ventura, too.

btw ventura is from spain. i know him cause he won the ATP casablanca last year. i think he's rather a clay court specialist.

Thanks fabulous :) Actually I am not too stressed (yet) about Ventura -perhaps because I am just too tired!!? It was Ferrer that was really scaring me - and now you can see why :eek:

Raquel
01-18-2005, 05:52 PM
Well done on getting through, David! :D

Looks like a *very* close match. I had to work today so I couldn't stay up and follow it on the scoreboard - maybe that was a good thing actually!

Good luck in the next round David ;) Vamos!

sigmagirl91
01-18-2005, 06:56 PM
oumph that was close. but you see, rosie, i said he'll win and he did.:) and to make you happy, i say that he'll win against ventura, too.

btw ventura is from spain. i know him cause he won the ATP casablanca last year. i think he's rather a clay court specialist.

Thanks, fabolous. I think he can pull that win out too.

*Ljubica*
01-18-2005, 07:15 PM
Well done on getting through, David! :D

Looks like a *very* close match. I had to work today so I couldn't stay up and follow it on the scoreboard - maybe that was a good thing actually!

Good luck in the next round David ;) Vamos!

Well I DID have to work today Raquel - that's why I'm about to go to bed now at only 8.15pm - I actually feel like total s***t! But the one good thing - imagine how much worse I would feel if he had lost!!!

niko
01-18-2005, 07:21 PM
We can only hope that David does well, but you wait and see when David plays big guns,I personally think he is not capable of challenging big guns since his loss to Roddick at US Open 2003,

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 07:24 PM
We can only hope that David does well, but you wait and see when David plays big guns,I personally think he is not capable of challenging big guns since his loss to Roddick at US Open 2003,
are you a fan of his?

sigmagirl91
01-18-2005, 07:25 PM
:wavey: Jazz, Tiff...when I saw the results, I can only imagine you gals DURING it, especially tiff :haha:

Thank god I was at work and only got to check the results when it was over ;)

It took all the restraint I had not to go off on the TV set or throw things.
I was totally shocked at the second and third-set scores. He had oodles of chances to come back. I am glad, however, that our David stuck it out.

sigmagirl91
01-18-2005, 07:25 PM
We can only hope that David does well, but you wait and see when David plays big guns,I personally think he is not capable of challenging big guns since his loss to Roddick at US Open 2003,

I'm like jazz-are you a fan?

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 07:27 PM
It took all the restraint I had not to go off on the TV set or throw things.
I was totally shocked at the second and third-set scores. He had oodles of chances to come back. I am glad, however, that our David stuck it out.
Absolutly. He didn't choke at the end, he kept fighting till the end even though it clearly wasn't day.

niko
01-18-2005, 07:28 PM
Did you ask me if I'm a fanatic of David,No, I'm his fan!

sigmagirl91
01-18-2005, 07:29 PM
Did you ask me if I'm a fanatic of David,No, I'm his fan!

We asked if you were a fan. Your post implied that you weren't.

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 07:30 PM
Did you ask me if I'm a fanatic of David,No, I'm his fan!
No, I asked you if you're a fan, not a fanatic...
Welcome to the forum then.

niko
01-18-2005, 07:34 PM
There's a reason why I said I'm not a fanatic. From what I read on this site, I can see that you guys always come up with excuses why he lost. last year it was injuries this year his father passed away, it reminds me an old russian saying that " a bad dancer for his bad performance always blames his balls are too big". I tried to make a perfect translation, but you know what I mean.

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 07:37 PM
There's a reason why I said I'm not a fanatic. From what I read on this site, I can see that you guys always come up with excuses why he lost. last year it was injuries this year his father passed away, it reminds me an old russian saying that " a bad dancer for his bad performance always blames his balls are too big". I tried to make a perfect translation, but you know what I mean.
We don't make excuses, we just try to figure out the reasons of his losses. If you're uncounfortable with ours, please, be our guest and share your thoughts with us...

niko
01-18-2005, 07:39 PM
The question #1 right now who can chalenge Roger. You want to beat Roger do what Roger does. Believe me I want David to succeed I want David be #1, but he's got to change his mentality, stop getting frustrated for bad line calls, improve serve and get yourself pumped up every match you play.

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 07:41 PM
The question #1 right now who can chalenge Roger. You want to beat Roger do what Roger does. Believe me I want David to succeed I want David be #1, but he's got to change his mentality, stop getting frustrated for bad line calls, improve serve and get yourself pumped up every match you play.
LOL! How long have you been here???? If you take the time to reread some of our posts you'll see we've said that already a hundred times. I agree with that, all of us know that's true...

sigmagirl91
01-18-2005, 08:08 PM
The question #1 right now who can chalenge Roger. You want to beat Roger do what Roger does. Believe me I want David to succeed I want David be #1, but he's got to change his mentality, stop getting frustrated for bad line calls, improve serve and get yourself pumped up every match you play.

A little late to the party, aren't we? Reading is fundamental. If you took the time to read through our previous posts, you would've realized that we've said the same thing. Basically, you're preaching to the choir here.

sigmagirl91
01-18-2005, 08:13 PM
There's a reason why I said I'm not a fanatic. From what I read on this site, I can see that you guys always come up with excuses why he lost. last year it was injuries this year his father passed away, it reminds me an old russian saying that " a bad dancer for his bad performance always blames his balls are too big". I tried to make a perfect translation, but you know what I mean.

Whatever!!! You are not a fan; you're a hater. Maybe some of us had excuses, but it came down to the same shit-he lost. We've learned that it comes with the territory of being a fan of his. If you can't handle that, perhaps you could cheer for another player, and leave this forum for the real fans.

Raquel
01-18-2005, 08:32 PM
There's a reason why I said I'm not a fanatic. From what I read on this site, I can see that you guys always come up with excuses why he lost. last year it was injuries this year his father passed away, it reminds me an old russian saying that " a bad dancer for his bad performance always blames his balls are too big". I tried to make a perfect translation, but you know what I mean.
Last year the injuries were all valid, they weren't excuses. And as for his father dying being an excuse I haven't read him mentioning it however even if he did mention it after a loss I wouldn't blame him as the grief will still be fresh.

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 08:35 PM
The reason I asked him if he was a fan was because he kept saying negative things throught yesterday's match, and I can understand it. Although, if you're a fan you're supposed to like the guy, otherwise, why do you support him? right?

sigmagirl91
01-18-2005, 08:37 PM
The reason I asked him if he was a fan was because he kept saying negative things throught yesterday's match, and I can understand it. Although, if you're a fan you're supposed to like the guy, otherwise, why do you support him? right?

Right!!! We've learned the losses come with the territory. Whatever, man.

niko
01-18-2005, 09:09 PM
I think it has to do with being 43 years old vers young kids like you who basicly care about his look.

niko
01-18-2005, 09:12 PM
The reason I asked him if he was a fan was because he kept saying negative things throught yesterday's match, and I can understand it. Although, if you're a fan you're supposed to like the guy, otherwise, why do you support him? right?
You remind me some Americans bashing French for telling the truth, a good fan( not fanatic) tells things he/she sees.

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 09:12 PM
Again, talking without knowing anything at all.
We're not kids and we know what we're talking about...
So, you're a fan. What do you like about Nalbandian? Because till now I only saw you posting negative things about him. We know his serve is terrible and that he has a huge problem closing matches, and don't even get me started on the finals. But I found it odd that you came to a fan forum just to bring out the worst in him instead of supporting him. That's why I asked you that first question...

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 09:13 PM
You remind me some Americans bashing French for telling the truth, a good fan( not fanatic) tells things he/she sees.
Ok, when did I say that you were wrong???? I told you, you were right with what you said!

niko
01-18-2005, 09:15 PM
You remember the story about the naked King? I'm the kid who shouted the King is naked!

Action Jackson
01-18-2005, 09:15 PM
I am a fan of Nalbandian and don't make excuses, so niko do some research before you put everyone in the same bracket.

Raquel
01-18-2005, 09:15 PM
I think it has to do with being 43 years old vers young kids like you who basicly care about his look.
This is nothing to do with what David looks like. You said he used his injuries as an excuse last year. Well he was genuinely injured - he wasn't making it up.

As for using his father's death as an excuse I haven't seen him do that, have you?

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 09:16 PM
You remember the story about the naked King? I'm the kid who shouted the King is naked!
I've nevere heard that story, sorry...

niko
01-18-2005, 09:17 PM
I am a fan of Nalbandian and don't make excuses, so niko do some research before you put everyone in the same bracket.
It doesn't apply to you Hitler

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 09:21 PM
It doesn't apply to you Hitler
I still don't understand what makes you different from the rest of us...You've said the exact same thing we've been saying for months now, however you implied we're fanatics.
It was never my intention to be rude to you, but when you come to a forum like this, you should expect reactions like this. You're no better from the rest of us. You must understand that.

niko
01-18-2005, 09:22 PM
I'm a fan of Andre Agassi since he was 15 and David Nalbandian since WO final the match I didn't get a chance to watch. What makes Andre a great player even in matches he lost he was fighting to the death, I'm sorry I don't see that in David, probably because he knows he's got critic free fanatics.

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 09:25 PM
I'm a fan of Andre Agassi since he was 15 and David Nalbandian since WO final the match I didn't get a chance to watch. What makes Andre a great player even in matches he lost he was fighting to the death, I'm sorry I don't see that in David, probably because he knows he's got critic free fanatics.
Great post! :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
01-18-2005, 09:27 PM
I'm a fan of Andre Agassi since he was 15 and David Nalbandian since WO final the match I didn't get a chance to watch. What makes Andre a great player even in matches he lost he was fighting to the death, I'm sorry I don't see that in David, probably because he knows he's got critic free fanatics.

Aha! try Muster and Cañas as guys who fight to death even when it's impossible for them to win and not use Agassi as an example, you have lost it there. Agassi has catted so many matches it's not funny would you like a list? He catted it against Haehnel at RG last year, he has done it against Kucera, then against Costa and Bruguera on the Euro clay where he hasn't put in at all.

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 09:47 PM
Aha! try Muster and Cañas as guys who fight to death even when it's impossible for them to win and not use Agassi as an example, you have lost it there. Agassi has catted so many matches it's not funny would you like a list? He catted it against Haehnel at RG last year, he has done it against Kucera, then against Costa and Bruguera on the Euro clay where he hasn't put in at all.
:worship:

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 09:50 PM
Hey guys! I was just watching a post match interview in ESPN, and the journalist asked him if it would benefit Ventura, that he had to play a 5 set match, but he said it wouldn't cause Ventura had to do that too. He also said that he doesn't know Santiago Ventura, so it will take him some time to figure him out, but since it's a long match, that's gonna benefit him for sure. He looked really calmed and confident. Who knows, maybe that crappy match helped him somehow...

justClaudia
01-18-2005, 10:48 PM
Hell of a match! God!

I'm not sure if I really wanna see his next one against Ventura!
My heart was going crazy..Even my boyfriend - who is not a tennis fan,and never sees an entire game - called me to ask if all the matches were like that! LOL !

jazz_girl
01-18-2005, 11:22 PM
LOL!!! Please, don't tell me it was the first David match he saw!!! LOL! Not a good first impression at all!

Gonzo Hates Me!
01-18-2005, 11:32 PM
Fernando G. and David N. put me through hell yesterday!! But I am so happy they got through. The only one of my favorite players who seems at 100% confidence is Hewitt. I hope everyone else can get their acts together!!!!!!!!

VAMOS DAVID!!!!!!!!

niko
01-19-2005, 12:23 AM
Aha! try Muster and Cañas as guys who fight to death even when it's impossible for them to win and not use Agassi as an example, you have lost it there. Agassi has catted so many matches it's not funny would you like a list? He catted it against Haehnel at RG last year, he has done it against Kucera, then against Costa and Bruguera on the Euro clay where he hasn't put in at all.
Common Hitler, be fair, tell me then how many matches Angre has played and how many matches he goofed around if you are so accurate, and put it in procentage may be I'm close to 99%.

niko
01-19-2005, 12:34 AM
It's time to stop BS let's go back to normal forum if I offended anybody I do apologize. :)

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 01:13 AM
It's time to stop BS let's go back to normal forum if I offended anybody I do apologize. :)

No, cause you messed it up. If you're a fan, why did you come over here, all negative and shit. We've said basically everything you've said-and we said it with a sense of humor. If you call yourself a "fan", then why all the negative bullshit? You never answered anyone's question to satisfaction.

And another thing: the door is thataway.
<-------------------------------
USE IT......

niko
01-19-2005, 02:08 AM
No, cause you messed it up. If you're a fan, why did you come over here, all negative and shit. We've said basically everything you've said-and we said it with a sense of humor. If you call yourself a "fan", then why all the negative bullshit? You never answered anyone's question to satisfaction.

And another thing: the door is thataway.
<-------------------------------
USE IT......
What questions you're talking about?

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:11 AM
What questions you're talking about?

George and Jazz had questions. Did you bother to read, or are you taking the time to see how well you can troll? Or, are you demonstrating how well you can screw up the language? Which one?

niko
01-19-2005, 02:15 AM
No, cause you messed it up. If you're a fan, why did you come over here, all negative and shit. We've said basically everything you've said-and we said it with a sense of humor. If you call yourself a "fan", then why all the negative bullshit? You never answered anyone's question to satisfaction.

And another thing: the door is thataway.
<-------------------------------
USE IT......
Since you are upset with me now I realize why you're David's fan. David didn't shake Mikhail Youzniy hand after he lost supposedly Mikhail faked his injury, tell me who your freind and I'll tell who you are.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:18 AM
Since you are upset with me now I realize why you're David's fan. David didn't shake Mikhail Youzniy hand after he lost supposedly Mikhail faked his injury, tell me who your freind and I'll tell who you are.

Whatever, Niko, this thread is not about whether he shook hands with Youzhny or not. We've even shared our dislike of that action, too. Apparently, you have not read any of the threads, or you wouldn't have come over here to reiterate pointless drivel. All you've come here to do is bash. I've never heard anything positive-at all-from you concerning David. It's ok to "discuss" things, but you are clearly not here for that purpose. You're here to troll and bash-and I sugges that you read my sig just so you'd be reminded of your fate!!!!

niko
01-19-2005, 02:19 AM
George and Jazz had questions. Did you bother to read, or are you taking the time to see how well you can troll? Or, are you demonstrating how well you can screw up the language? Which one?
You also remind some christians that tell little kids that if they don't believe in JC they'll burn in hell. :)

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:19 AM
Since you are upset with me now I realize why you're David's fan. David didn't shake Mikhail Youzniy hand after he lost supposedly Mikhail faked his injury, tell me who your freind and I'll tell who you are.

If you are a fan, that makes you as bad as he when he didn't shake Youzhny's hand. And now that we've established that you're not, you need to leave-and now.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:20 AM
You also remind some christians that tell little kids that if they don't believe in JC they'll burn in hell. :)

What the fuck are you talking about? It would be great if you could stay on subject and learn how to use the language-both of which I see you haven't mastered yet.

niko
01-19-2005, 02:29 AM
If you are a fan, that makes you as bad as he when he didn't shake Youzhny's hand. And now that we've established that you're not, you need to leave-and now.
You don't understand I'm David fan I'm different I'm critical

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:31 AM
You don't understand I'm David fan I'm different I'm critical


You're critically missing some screws. It's OK to be critical, but you must balance it with some positive things too. Is that hard for you to do? I am still not convinced that you're a fan; you're a troll. And, please, a period and a comma....for the love of all that's good and right.

niko
01-19-2005, 02:33 AM
What the fuck are you talking about? It would be great if you could stay on subject and learn how to use the language-both of which I see you haven't mastered yet.
Now you're using a foul language which basicly proofs that you're a fanatic.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:34 AM
Now you're using a foul language which basicly proofs that you're a fanatic.

Call me what you want--I don't care. It's just that you're not a fan, and as such, you don't deserve to be here. :mad:
And you still can't spell. Fancy that....

niko
01-19-2005, 02:39 AM
You're critically missing some screws. It's OK to be critical, but you must balance it with some positive things too. Is that hard for you to do? I am still not convinced that you're a fan; you're a troll. And, please, a period and a comma....for the love of all that's good and right.
Well! David is gorgeous, handsome man, has a nice body, has a potentional of being #1, he is the only player in the circiut who can really challenge Roger, if he listens to fans like me- critical.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:40 AM
That's much better, Niko. I knew you had it in you. That other bullshit was way uncalled for-and you know it. Please, if you have to be critical, read what was written before you interject-and do your research. Everything you said make you look like you're slow on the uptake.

niko
01-19-2005, 02:41 AM
Call me what you want--I don't care. It's just that you're not a fan, and as such, you don't deserve to be here. :mad:
And you still can't spell. Fancy that....
At least I can see problems.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:42 AM
Well! David is gorgeous, handsome man, has a nice body, has a potentional of being #1, he is the only player in the circiut who can really challenge Roger, if he listens to fans like me- critical.

That's critical; that's complimentary. In fact, I'm sure David would appreciate it. Criticism is supposed to be constructive; bashing is all-around negative. Which, of course, you were being. I wouldn't expect nitwits like yourself to know or understand the difference. But,hey, at least I tried.....

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:44 AM
At least I can see problems.

You can see problems--so can I. I consider myself a perceptive person-unlike yourself. You're just looking at the problems and not solutions. I don't expect you to get this point overnight-seeing that it takes you fifteen minutes to respond to one post, while I've fired off three. Get a clue and a life, Niko. You're a waste of space and time over here.

novanora
01-19-2005, 02:53 AM
You don't understand I'm David fan I'm different I'm critical
wow, i missed the battle here last night!!!

niko, you didn't appear here much before when he did some amazing performance, or you did maybe i forgot. Yesterday you reported his live match, it's the first time i read your post here. I think you are a David fan. Because only two kinds of people will care for his matches in the live time, and made report, one is his fans (no matter how fanatic), the other is his haters, like orange nightmare who only wants to see his ugly losing. Unfortunately, he played a "horrible" match when you appeared here. :lol: yes, i did watch the last 2 sets live. I first thought he didn't play postive and without energy, especially compared to Ferrer who always saved every ball no matter how far it is. But think another angle, wasting your strength to save every impossible ball in hot weather is also not that wise ;) and this is only the first round.

Anyway, if you followed his former matches, you should know he is such a player whose status up and down much. I still remember he did horribly in RG when playing Koubek, but look at his winning over Safin and Guga later. So you never can say how his next match will be.

I hope i didn't offend you, jazz and sigma, but i do think niko is his fan. He/She is just critical, and his/her chance of postive praising for David hasn't arrived yet :p and must admit, sometimes, i am critical too :lol: tell you i want to kick his ass to the hell yesterday when i saw his serving like shit!!! :devil:

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 02:56 AM
wow, i missed the battle here last night!!!

niko, you didn't appear here much before when he did some amazing performance, or you did maybe i forgot. Yesterday you reported his live match, it's the first time i read your post here. I think you are a David fan. Because only two kinds of people will care for his matches in the live time, and made report, one is his fans (no matter how fanatic), the other is his haters, like orange nightmare who only wants to see his ugly losing. Unfortunately, he played a "horrible" match when you appeared here. :lol: yes, i did watch the last 2 sets live. I first thought he didn't play postive and without energy, especially compared to Ferrer who always saved every ball no matter how far it is. But think another angle, wasting your strength to save every impossible ball in hot weather is also not that wise ;) and this is only the first round.

Anyway, if you followed his former matches, you should know he is such a player whose status up and down much. I still remember he did horribly in RG when playing Koubek, but look at his winning over Safin and Guga later. So you never can say how his next match will be.

I hope i didn't offend you, jazz and sigma, but i do think niko is his fan. He/She is just critical, and his/her chance of postive praising for David hasn't arrived yet :p and must admit, sometimes, i am critical too :lol: tell you i want to kick his ass to the hell yesterday when i saw his serving like shit!!! :devil:

Nova, we've talked about this dozens of time-a point I tried to drive through Niko's skull, but he/she/it failed to comprehend. It's not that I'm pissed about; it's the sheer negativity that he/she/it comes with, seemingly with little thought or care given to what is being said. It's OK, like I said, to be critical, but Niko's just being hateful.

niko
01-19-2005, 03:00 AM
You can see problems--so can I. I consider myself a perceptive person-unlike yourself. You're just looking at the problems and not solutions. I don't expect you to get this point overnight-seeing that it takes you fifteen minutes to respond to one post, while I've fired off three. Get a clue and a life, Niko. You're a waste of space and time over here.
Well, I have two kids and a wife sometimes they need me for critics.

niko
01-19-2005, 03:03 AM
wow, i missed the battle here last night!!!

niko, you didn't appear here much before when he did some amazing performance, or you did maybe i forgot. Yesterday you reported his live match, it's the first time i read your post here. I think you are a David fan. Because only two kinds of people will care for his matches in the live time, and made report, one is his fans (no matter how fanatic), the other is his haters, like orange nightmare who only wants to see his ugly losing. Unfortunately, he played a "horrible" match when you appeared here. :lol: yes, i did watch the last 2 sets live. I first thought he didn't play postive and without energy, especially compared to Ferrer who always saved every ball no matter how far it is. But think another angle, wasting your strength to save every impossible ball in hot weather is also not that wise ;) and this is only the first round.

Anyway, if you followed his former matches, you should know he is such a player whose status up and down much. I still remember he did horribly in RG when playing Koubek, but look at his winning over Safin and Guga later. So you never can say how his next match will be.

I hope i didn't offend you, jazz and sigma, but i do think niko is his fan. He/She is just critical, and his/her chance of postive praising for David hasn't arrived yet :p and must admit, sometimes, i am critical too :lol: tell you i want to kick his ass to the hell yesterday when i saw his serving like shit!!! :devil:
Thank you Novanora for bieng a true fan of David's, I can watch David playing for hours and be mad at him and be happy with him it's like being with the kids, if the baby dosen't cry it dosen't get fed

niko
01-19-2005, 03:17 AM
You can see problems--so can I. I consider myself a perceptive person-unlike yourself. You're just looking at the problems and not solutions. I don't expect you to get this point overnight-seeing that it takes you fifteen minutes to respond to one post, while I've fired off three. Get a clue and a life, Niko. You're a waste of space and time over here.
You probably right,but I'd assume that most David's fans, not fanatics, would disagree with you. :)

novanora
01-19-2005, 03:23 AM
Nova, we've talked about this dozens of time-a point I tried to drive through Niko's skull, but he/she/it failed to comprehend. It's not that I'm pissed about; it's the sheer negativity that he/she/it comes with, seemingly with little thought or care given to what is being said. It's OK, like I said, to be critical, but Niko's just being hateful.
yes, he was hating why david couldn't be up to his expectation in the match :lol:

you know, as such a terrible match he did, some negativity can't be escapable, but that can't prove he is a hater :p

novanora
01-19-2005, 03:28 AM
Thank you Novanora for bieng a true fan of David's, I can watch David playing for hours and be mad at him and be happy with him it's like being with the kids, if the baby dosen't cry it dosen't get fed
according to your standard, i am a fanatic ;)
i really hope your kids don't be fed up too much by your critics. When I was a kid, i don't like to be often criticized by my Dad. :p

niko
01-19-2005, 03:40 AM
according to your standard, i am a fanatic ;)
i really hope your kids don't be fed up too much by your critics. When I was a kid, i don't like to be often criticized by my Dad. :p
So you think I should be out of this forum?

niko
01-19-2005, 03:44 AM
You're critically missing some screws. It's OK to be critical, but you must balance it with some positive things too. Is that hard for you to do? I am still not convinced that you're a fan; you're a troll. And, please, a period and a comma....for the love of all that's good and right.
I'm just curious why you picked David?

junekidd
01-19-2005, 03:51 AM
hello, all! it has been a long time that I did not come. how are you? :wavey:

I read some posts in this thread... I know David did not play his best yesterday. but calm down pls. it was just the 1st match in the GS. he could get better and better. you know, the one who is playing the best from the very early might not get the champion at last. he just needs some more time. let's be more patient. he will be up sure!

nova knows that I am always unsatisfied with the hippo too. always blame him. but still I try to find some positive points from him too. otherwise why are we their fans? ;)

novanora
01-19-2005, 03:51 AM
So you think I should be out of this forum?
personally i don't, i like every david fan to be here, and i think you are his fan. But, see here is too much love, so you should keep your criticism moderate.;) not many people like criticism, because it's too bitter to listen.

Praise should be side with criticism to keep someone forward, and vice versa.

novanora
01-19-2005, 04:08 AM
hello, all! it has been a long time that I did not come. how are you? :wavey:

I read some posts in this thread... I know David did not play his best yesterday. but calm down pls. it was just the 1st match in the GS. he could get better and better. you know, the one who is playing the best from the very early might not get the champion at last. he just needs some more time. let's be more patient. he will be up sure!

nova knows that I am always unsatisfied with the hippo too. always blame him. but still I try to find some positive points from him too. otherwise why are we their fans? ;)
june, as we are good friends, and always keep touch in our Chinese forum, i do know you are another critical one too :lol:
yes, to be frank, i was quite scared by david's serving yesterday, even though i watched many of his terrible serving before. But i can never imagine keep fighting in so long time under hot weather, which isn't a joke to anyone. I always keep positive to him, and will do that in the future. He is not Mr. Perfect, and needn't to be. but believe as such a smart person, he can find his own way to up himself in the next match. If i don't trust him, why being his fan or fanatic so called....

Thanks, june for your kind words! and good luck to hippo too!!

junekidd
01-19-2005, 04:23 AM
nova, I think you have known sth abt his next opponent. not a big name. so he could get his shape back from that match. as for his serving... how to say... need to improve badly. then he could beat many top players. such as Roger. ;)

while hippo, thanks for your greeting. :hug: :kiss: I will pass it to him. ;)

niko
01-19-2005, 04:37 AM
personally i don't, i like every david fan to be here, and i think you are his fan. But, see here is too much love, so you should keep your criticism moderate.;) not many people like criticism, because it's too bitter to listen.

Praise should be side with criticism to keep someone forward, and vice versa.
I'm from the old school you guys are probably young.

novanora
01-19-2005, 04:45 AM
I'm from the old school you guys are probably young.
i am a 83' baby, maybe young to you, but definitely not an immature kid either. ;)

niko
01-19-2005, 04:47 AM
i am a 83' baby, maybe young to you, but definitely not an immature kid either. ;)
I'm 43.

novanora
01-19-2005, 04:55 AM
nova, I think you have known sth abt his next opponent. not a big name. so he could get his shape back from that match. as for his serving... how to say... need to improve badly. then he could beat many top players. such as Roger. ;)

while hippo, thanks for your greeting. :hug: :kiss: I will pass it to him. ;)
thanks, june :hug: i hope next match he can make us more relaxed, otherwise i need an iron heart to prevent being broken.

:bigwave:

novanora
01-19-2005, 04:57 AM
I'm 43.
my dad is 5 years older than u :D

niko
01-19-2005, 05:06 AM
i am a 83' baby, maybe young to you, but definitely not an immature kid either. ;)
I don't know if you agree with me, tennis is a sport of wealthy people like golf, most of tennis players are coming from wealthy families and we realy don't know what are those players motivated by. You can see how many players out there who never do well, but still around and have fans or so called fanatics. And the only reason why they're still around they have a good back up-money. And basicly they do not represent their countrys, they represent themselfs. The point I'm trying to make as a fan I have the right to be critical in any way I want I don't get paid they do. I was critical while watching Davids bad performance and I'm told by another fan to be out.

niko
01-19-2005, 05:09 AM
i am a 83' baby, maybe young to you, but definitely not an immature kid either. ;)
Out of curiousity whu you chose David as your favorite player?

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 05:22 AM
I don't know if you agree with me, tennis is a sport of wealthy people like golf, most of tennis players are coming from wealthy families and we realy don't know what are those players motivated by. You can see how many players out there who never do well, but still around and have fans or so called fanatics. And the only reason why they're still around they have a good back up-money. And basicly they do not represent their countrys, they represent themselfs. The point I'm trying to make as a fan I have the right to be critical in any way I want I don't get paid they do. I was critical while watching Davids bad performance and I'm told by another fan to be out.

Hi - I have come very late to this thread due to the time difference and the fact that I had an early night last night. Firstly- Niko, -I do not agree that ALL tennis players are from wealthy backgrounds - some are that is true (especially in England where I come from), but it's certainly not true in Eastern Europe or Russia or the Far East for example.

Secondly - as a woman in my 30's who spent years working in the media and has met many tennis players personally, I somewhat object to being called a "fanatic" by someone who has never posted in our Forum before even though you are slightly older than me! Of course you are entitled to your opinions, but some of them seem more suited to the GM Forum where people talk about tennis generally and criticise often, - than in a Fan Forum that is here specifically for fans to support their player.

As to why I personally picked David - I "discovered" him at Wimbledon 2002 (my "local" tournament) when he came from nowhere to reach the Final. I loved his fighting spirit, his heart and his modest personality. Since then I have met him many times and still think he is one of the nicest, most modest, pleasant men on the Tour -and, as I said - I have met most of them. Yes - of course - he is an attractive guy- but a little too young for my personal tastes so I am not into him because of his appearance which is a criticism men often level at female fans.

Finally - as Nova said earlier - of course you are welcome fere - all fans of David are welcome - but please try to moderate your criticisms as this is a Fam Forum for fans of David and we don't want him or us to be endlessely criticised as we see enough of that elsewhere. Have to go now - I am due for work.

novanora
01-19-2005, 05:27 AM
I don't know if you agree with me, tennis is a sport of wealthy people like golf, most of tennis players are coming from wealthy families and we realy don't know what are those players motivated by. You can see how many players out there who never do well, but still around and have fans or so called fanatics. And the only reason why they're still around they have a good back up-money. And basicly they do not represent their countrys, they represent themselfs. The point I'm trying to make as a fan I have the right to be critical in any way I want I don't get paid they do. I was critical while watching Davids bad performance and I'm told by another fan to be out.
partly agree, but not all. i remember i met the tennis player Bjorn Phau last year in Shanghai Open. Definitely he is the one like you said, never doing it well (just according to his low ranking) and he did have fans like me. His mother is a German, maybe his family is well-money back or i don't know. but when i was watching him practising, i looked he was so happy and relaxed in playing tennis, even after he lost both single and double match in the 1st round. Bjorn is not well body-built for tennis, not tall and strong, but he really focus the match and never compared lower when fighting a player whose ranking is much higher than him. Definitely playing tennis needs a lot money, and you have to fight for your reward to keep that. but if you just stay there doing what wastes your time, then you'd better give it up not matter how strong the money back. Bjorn really likes playing tennis and fighting for it which still worth staying this sport world, or at least this is just what i think.

of course you have right to be critical, and i can see why they tell you out, because they think you are critical not after thinking deeply, which actually is pretty normal for many fans. ;)

novanora
01-19-2005, 05:30 AM
Out of curiousity whu you chose David as your favorite player?
you can read this, then you will know why all of us choose him :D

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=18429

niko
01-19-2005, 05:56 AM
Hi - I have come very late to this thread due to the time difference and the fact that I had an early night last night. Firstly- Niko, -I do not agree that ALL tennis players are from wealthy backgrounds - some are that is true (especially in England where I come from), but it's certainly not true in Eastern Europe or Russia or the Far East for example.

Secondly - as a woman in my 30's who spent years working in the media and has met many tennis players personally, I somewhat object to being called a "fanatic" by someone who has never posted in our Forum before even though you are slightly older than me! Of course you are entitled to your opinions, but some of them seem more suited to the GM Forum where people talk about tennis generally and criticise often, - than in a Fan Forum that is here specifically for fans to support their player.

As to why I personally picked David - I "discovered" him at Wimbledon 2002 (my "local" tournament) when he came from nowhere to reach the Final. I loved his fighting spirit, his heart and his modest personality. Since then I have met him many times and still think he is one of the nicest, most modest, pleasant men on the Tour -and, as I said - I have met most of them. Yes - of course - he is an attractive guy- but a little too young for my personal tastes so I am not into him because of his appearance which is a criticism men often level at female fans.

Finally - as Nova said earlier - of course you are welcome fere - all fans of David are welcome - but please try to moderate your criticisms as this is a Fam Forum for fans of David and we don't want him or us to be endlessely criticised as we see enough of that elsewhere. Have to go now - I am due for work.
Rosie if you realy think that Russian players aren't from wealthy background then explain me how an ordinary Russian with an average salary of $100 a month can afford to move to Spain and have their kids to play tennis, the same with Eastern Europe. Do you know how much it cost to be in the junior circuit? $60 grand and you telling me not all of them , i live in the states and make $60 grand a year which is a great pay in Midwest, can I afford tennis? In Thailand to be a member of a golf club cost you thousands. You picked David because he's good looking admit that I read your posts on his site all you say is how gorgeous he is.

novanora
01-19-2005, 06:00 AM
Rosie if you realy think that Russian players aren't from wealthy background then explain me how an ordinary Russian with an average salary of $100 a month can afford to move to Spain and have their kids to play tennis, the same with Eastern Europe. Do you know how much it cost to be in the junior circuit? $60 grand and you telling me not all of them , i live in the states and make $60 grand a year which is a great pay in Midwest, can I afford tennis? In Thailand to be a member of a golf club cost you thousands. You picked David because he's good looking admit that I read your posts on his site all you say is how gorgeous he is.
niko, suggest you'd better :bolt:

niko
01-19-2005, 06:03 AM
I bet that if David looses you will blame the hot temperatures in Australia.

niko
01-19-2005, 06:05 AM
niko, suggest you'd better :bolt:
It seems to me this site is for Davids lovers, bye!

novanora
01-19-2005, 06:13 AM
I bet that if David looses you will blame the hot temperatures in Australia.

hot weather is quite fair to every player, and the only difference is some ones are influenced more than others. Are you saying we have prepared excuses for his loss already? :)

novanora
01-19-2005, 06:16 AM
It seems to me this site is for Davids lovers, bye!
i am sorry, niko, i didn't mean to drive you out in my last post. but if you have to say bye, then bye :) :wavey:

niko
01-19-2005, 06:17 AM
hot weather is quite fair to every player, and the only difference is some ones are influenced more than others. Are you saying we have prepared excuses for his loss already? :)
You got it finally.

novanora
01-19-2005, 06:27 AM
You got it finally.
you know, not all the fans are as critical as you. :)
what do you mean by those excuses? the circumstance, other factors like injury, or family problem? do you mean if we blame his shit serving, weak mentality and some complaining behavior, then we don't excuse his loss out?
if yes, we already blamed them for hundreds of times, but you didn't read them before :)

niko
01-19-2005, 06:39 AM
you know, not all the fans are as critical as you. :)
what do you mean by those excuses? the circumstance, other factors like injury, or family problem? do you mean if we blame his shit serving, weak mentality and some complaining behavior, then we don't excuse his loss out?
if yes, we already blamed them for hundreds of times, but you didn't read them before :)
In one of my posts I mentioned that I'm a fan of Agassi since he was 15 and David since WO 2002. I've read lot of interviews and David always come up with excuses like you. He dosen't like to play Roddick and Agassi in the USA because of bad line calls, he dosen't like to play Hewitt, Mikhail Yousnyi because he fakes injuries I mean you ever heard Roger says BS like that he plays anybody or going back to Sampras the guy was puking and still win, crying over loss of his coach and still win, Williams last Championship in Los Angeles hurting still playing female. Common give me a brake.

novanora
01-19-2005, 07:02 AM
In one of my posts I mentioned that I'm a fan of Agassi since he was 15 and David since WO 2002. I've read lot of interviews and David always come up with excuses like you. He dosen't like to play Roddick and Agassi in the USA because of bad line calls, he dosen't like to play Hewitt, Mikhail Yousnyi because he fakes injuries I mean you ever heard Roger says BS like that he plays anybody or going back to Sampras the guy was puking and still win, crying over loss of his coach and still win, Williams last Championship in Los Angeles hurting still playing female. Common give me a brake.

汗,我看出来了,你恨铁不成钢,家长的普遍心理,没想到美国也有这样的老爸。 :p

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 07:04 AM
It seems to me this site is for Davids lovers, bye!

Yes Niko - this site is for David fans and lovers of his game - trolls are not tolerated. As we said before - if you are a true fan - welcome - if you are a trouble-making troll (which seems increasingly likely) - Goodbye and good riddance :wavey:

Oh - one final thing - my family are from Belarussia - so I do know a fair amount about the backgrounds and lifestyles of many Russian and Eastern European players. Marat (who you presumably are referring to in your post about training in Spain) is indeed from a wealthy background - this is not true of Kafelnikov, Voltchkov, Mirnyi or Sharapova to name but a few. Goodbye again!

junekidd
01-19-2005, 07:13 AM
Gosh... nova... he won't undrestand your chinese characters...

calm down everyone. I know all of you love David, but in different ways. that is why we communicate here while not quarrel. no one need to leave cos we have the same goal: wish David have a great career.

niko
01-19-2005, 07:26 AM
Yes Niko - this site is for David fans and lovers of his game - trolls are not tolerated. As we said before - if you are a true fan - welcome - if you are a trouble-making troll (which seems increasingly likely) - Goodbye and good riddance :wavey:

Oh - one final thing - my family are from Belarussia - so I do know a fair amount about the backgrounds and lifestyles of many Russian and Eastern European players. Marat (who you presumably are referring to in your post about training in Spain) is indeed from a wealthy background - this is not true of Kafelnikov, Voltchkov, Mirnyi or Sharapova to name but a few. Goodbye again!
Kafelnikov and Voltchkov Rosie were sponsored by the old Soviet system, Mirnyi and Sharapova live in Florida and you telling me tennis in Florida is affordable you are insane. I'm reffering not only to Safin, Andreev , Youshnyi, kusnetsova, Dementieva, Myskina you name it.

niko
01-19-2005, 07:31 AM
Gosh... nova... he won't undrestand your chinese characters...

calm down everyone. I know all of you love David, but in different ways. that is why we communicate here while not quarrel. no one need to leave cos we have the same goal: wish David have a great career.
What I want to point out is that any opinion is valuable, but for some once you make a critical point while watching David playing, you become opposite.

niko
01-19-2005, 07:33 AM
Yes Niko - this site is for David fans and lovers of his game - trolls are not tolerated. As we said before - if you are a true fan - welcome - if you are a trouble-making troll (which seems increasingly likely) - Goodbye and good riddance :wavey:

Oh - one final thing - my family are from Belarussia - so I do know a fair amount about the backgrounds and lifestyles of many Russian and Eastern European players. Marat (who you presumably are referring to in your post about training in Spain) is indeed from a wealthy background - this is not true of Kafelnikov, Voltchkov, Mirnyi or Sharapova to name but a few. Goodbye again!
Do you have Armenian blood in your family?

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 07:37 AM
Kafelnikov and Voltchkov Rosie were sponsored by the old Soviet system, Mirnyi and Sharapova live in Florida and you telling me tennis in Florida is affordable you are insane. I'm reffering not only to Safin, Andreev , Youshnyi, kusnetsova, Dementieva, Myskina you name it.

Niko - as I said earlier I am at work and Internet time is limited - and I am not going to get into an argument with you about the former Soviet system - which I am pretty sure I know a hell of a lot more about then you do thanks to my family connections. And no - I am not Armenian - if you had bothered to read my earlier post you would have seen that I told you my family was from Belarussia, I even lived under it for a while :) And where did I ever say that Kafelniknov and others were not sponsored by it anyway? It seems like you are being argumentative with everyone here for the sake of it - just arrive in our Forum and start picking fights and name-calling - true trouble-making troll behaviour. I honestly don't have the time, patience or interest in that kind or behaviour. So once again - as I have said before - GOODBYE and save it for someone who cares.

niko
01-19-2005, 07:38 AM
Gosh... nova... he won't undrestand your chinese characters...

calm down everyone. I know all of you love David, but in different ways. that is why we communicate here while not quarrel. no one need to leave cos we have the same goal: wish David have a great career.
You know what really bothers me that every day I go on line look for any good news on David, trying to get The Tennis Chaneel on my DirecTV satelite and thiese people telling me I'm not a fan. And those who say I love his body how gorgeous he is he is so beuitifull are fans of his, great!

niko
01-19-2005, 07:43 AM
Niko - as I said earlier I am at work and Internet time is limited - and I am not going to get into an argument with you about the former Soviet system - which I am pretty sure I know a hell of a lot more about then you do thanks to my family connections. And no - I am not Armenian - if you had bothered to read my earlier post you would have seen that I told you my family was from Belarussia, I even lived under it for a while :) And where did I ever say that Kafelniknov and others were not sponsored by it anyway? It seems like you are being argumentative with everyone here for the sake of it - just arrive in our Forum and start picking fights and name-calling - true trouble-making troll behaviour. I honestly don't have the time, patience or interest in that kind or behaviour. So once again - as I have said before - GOODBYE and save it for someone who cares.
Tell me anyway do you have Armenian blood in your family?

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 07:44 AM
Tell me anyway do you have Armenian blood in your family?

As I answered in an edit to my previous post - NO! And if you had bothered to read my previous posts you would have seen that anyway.

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 07:55 AM
Getting away from Niko's daft trolling for a moment..........the Order of Play is out - and David plays 3rd on Margaret Court Arena - so pretty much the same time as the Ferrer match.

MCA Start Time 11.00 AM

MS - 2nd Rnd. Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER) vs. Nicolas Massu (CHI)[18]

followed by
WS - 2nd Rnd. Lindsay Davenport (USA)[1] vs. Michaela Pastikova (CZE)

MS - 2nd Rnd. Santiago Ventura (ESP) vs. David Nalbandian (ARG)[9]

Not Before 7:30 PM

MS - 2nd Rnd. Mariano Zabaleta (ARG) vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[31]

niko
01-19-2005, 08:06 AM
As I answered in an edit to my previous post - NO! And if you had bothered to read my previous posts you would have seen that anyway.
Rosie there's lot of Armenians live in Belorussia, it might be helpfull for your work in the Media.

niko
01-19-2005, 08:13 AM
Getting away from Niko's daft trolling for a moment..........the Order of Play is out - and David plays 3rd on Margaret Court Arena - so pretty much the same time as the Ferrer match.

MCA Start Time 11.00 AM

MS - 2nd Rnd. Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER) vs. Nicolas Massu (CHI)[18]

followed by
WS - 2nd Rnd. Lindsay Davenport (USA)[1] vs. Michaela Pastikova (CZE)

MS - 2nd Rnd. Santiago Ventura (ESP) vs. David Nalbandian (ARG)[9]

Not Before 7:30 PM

MS - 2nd Rnd. Mariano Zabaleta (ARG) vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[31]
Rosie ,what doyou do for living ?

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 08:34 AM
I don't work in the media anymore - that was a long time ago.

bovenbuuf
01-19-2005, 08:56 AM
Rosie thanks for the OOP. :hug:Well hopefully Eurosport will put it on telivision, guess it would be around the same time as yesterday.

novanora
01-19-2005, 09:39 AM
You know what really bothers me that every day I go on line look for any good news on David, trying to get The Tennis Chaneel on my DirecTV satelite and thiese people telling me I'm not a fan. And those who say I love his body how gorgeous he is he is so beuitifull are fans of his, great!

i am back. i was watching AO matches just now and back, surprised to see the arguement are still continuing here :eek: :eek:

why are you attacking each other???? All of us are david fans, no matter how fanatic, no matter why we like him, no matter how we like him, why are we attacking each other??? i pretty feel sad and angry about it, used to try to keep the situation more mitigated, but now seems it's useless!!!

i checked all niko's posts, he didn't have many posts, so I read them. Definitely, he cares about david's performance much and support him if you check his posts in kooyoo results and who can beat Roger thread in GM. He is just critical type, and said sth you didn't agree, or a little bit extreme. but it will be bored if a world only has a one voice:"I agree" you shouldn't call him troll, or trouble-making, or fake fan without checking anything.

and to niko, why you feel pissed off they said david is beautiful, gorgeous........?? Not as you think, they are far more than caring about his looking. otherwise we can establish only one thread - "David Nalbandian's body visiting and appreciation pictures thread". I know about them for about 1 years, they are real and good fans, know more about his tennis. just because they are girls, it's pretty normal to pay attention to his looks, so what?

I don't watch tennis for long years like most of you. I still remember my first live tennis experience is 2002 TMC, and pretty start to like Roger at that time. I was impressed by Roger's great talent, even he was not a God like now. But when I watched his later matches playing against David, I was totally attracted by David. Those matches he beated roger are amazing!! I like his smart playing, and also his personality, which is so special and different in ATP. This is specially should thanks to Jazz and Rosie who provides so many articles of him, and let me know more about him. Of course not deny he is a good looking guy, but to tell you the truth he is not typical our Asian taste (Asian more like coria type lol) and also ATP have dozen of handsome guys. Definitely he is not considered as the most gorgeous one.

So you have different ways to support him, why you are attacking with each other?? I pretty hope every fan here can communicate peacefully, respecting others' oppinions. And if you didn't agree, just discuss and give reasons, not hurting anyone. Back this place to a nice forum again please!

ok i go, and watch Roger's match now. It seems to start soon. I am sorry for my words, seems i already offends all of you!! i am just too sad to see these posts. but i really hope you can get it along well.

bye, nova

novanora
01-19-2005, 09:44 AM
one more, thanks rosie for the OOP tomorrow. seems i have to delay my lunch again.

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 09:45 AM
Here is GWH's report from Tuesday's play pertaining to David's match.

Ferrer vs Nalbandian well what can I say about this match. It was a tough scrap which is Ferrer's game and it was obvious that Nalle had major nervousness playing against a guy that he has never beaten before and it showed. The 3rd set was very painful as he breaks, then loses his serve and plays a silly dropshot that almost bounced before the net on his side to lose the 3rd and then the racquet went into the court and I understand that frustration, but the best thing for him is that he grinded out the result and when it got ugly, he hung around and that can only be good. His next match against Ventura will be another scrap for sure as Ventura does have a good future and lost to Dent in 2 tight sets in Sydney on this surface. This section playes the winner from Gonzo/Andreev.

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 09:57 AM
I bet that if David looses you will blame the hot temperatures in Australia.
If he loses in the next round it will be beacuse he played like crap or he did well, but his opponent was better, or he played like crap and his oponent was better.
The temperatures won't have anything to do, especially to him. Argentina has the exact same temperature than Australia, so he's used to it.

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 10:02 AM
Getting away from Niko's daft trolling for a moment..........the Order of Play is out - and David plays 3rd on Margaret Court Arena - so pretty much the same time as the Ferrer match.

MCA Start Time 11.00 AM

MS - 2nd Rnd. Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER) vs. Nicolas Massu (CHI)[18]

followed by
WS - 2nd Rnd. Lindsay Davenport (USA)[1] vs. Michaela Pastikova (CZE)

MS - 2nd Rnd. Santiago Ventura (ESP) vs. David Nalbandian (ARG)[9]

Not Before 7:30 PM

MS - 2nd Rnd. Mariano Zabaleta (ARG) vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[31]
Great, another long night for me!
I think I'm getting used to this... Thank God I'm on vacations! :)
Thanks for the schedule Rosie :wavey:

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 10:07 AM
Here is GWH's report from Tuesday's play pertaining to David's match.

Ferrer vs Nalbandian well what can I say about this match. It was a tough scrap which is Ferrer's game and it was obvious that Nalle had major nervousness playing against a guy that he has never beaten before and it showed. The 3rd set was very painful as he breaks, then loses his serve and plays a silly dropshot that almost bounced before the net on his side to lose the 3rd and then the racquet went into the court and I understand that frustration, but the best thing for him is that he grinded out the result and when it got ugly, he hung around and that can only be good. His next match against Ventura will be another scrap for sure as Ventura does have a good future and lost to Dent in 2 tight sets in Sydney on this surface. This section playes the winner from Gonzo/Andreev.
Thanks a lot for the report George!!! And to you Rosie for posting it here :wavey:
I agree, that third set was one of the worst things I've seen in a long time...

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 10:11 AM
If he loses in the next round it will be beacuse he played like crap or he did well, but his opponent was better, or he played like crap and his oponent was better.
The temperatures won't have anything to do, especially to him. Argentina has the exact same temperature than Australia, so he's used to it.

I agree Jazz - but I'm sure Niko will find another reason to knock him - and us as well :devil: I don't want to harp on with this subject because I know it is upsetting Nova and I don't want to do that - but I have to honestly say I don't like Niko's attitude or manner at all, and if I answer him back it's not because of what he says about David (he is entitled to his opinions) but because of the manner he expresses his feelings in sometimes, especially towards the regular posters here. I object to being called "insane" and told I only like David for his looks - it is impollite to come into a Forum and behave like he has. Just my opinion anyway.

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 10:18 AM
I agree Jazz - but I'm sure Niko will find another reason to knock him - and us as well :devil: I don't want to harp on with this subject because I know it is upsetting Nova and I don't want to do that - but I have to honestly say I don't like Niko's attitude or manner at all, and if I answer him back it's not because of what he says about David (he is entitled to his opinions) but because of the manner he expresses his feelings in sometimes, especially towards the regular posters here. I object to being called "insane" and told I only like David for his looks - it is impollite to come into a Forum and behave like he has. Just my opinion anyway.
I agree, if we like someone for his looks we could find a model or actor. And to tell you the truth, it would be much less stressful! LOL
Whatever, if he really likes David's game and wants the best for him, then he should stick around. As Nova said, all of us want the best for him. But Nico must understand that there are ways of talking and I've been offended by some of his posts. And if talks, we will talk back, and he should accept that without attacking us.
But I think it's enough, all of us have clearly different opinions and won't be changed no matter what the other one said. So let's just leave it at that and let's keep enjoying David's game. Which is what we're all here for.

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 10:39 AM
I agree, if we like someone for his looks we could find a model or actor. And to tell you the truth, it would be much less stressful! LOL
Whatever, if he really likes David's game and wants the best for him, then he should stick around. As Nova said, all of us want the best for him. But Nico must understand that there are ways of talking and I've been offended by some of his posts. And if talks, we will talk back, and he should accept that without attacking us.
But I think it's enough, all of us have clearly different opinions and won't be changed no matter what the other one said. So let's just leave it at that and let's keep enjoying David's game. Which is what we're all here for.

:worship: :worship:

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 10:45 AM
It seems to me this site is for Davids lovers, bye!

By golly....how did you ever guess that, Einstein?

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 10:54 AM
I bet that if David looses you will blame the hot temperatures in Australia.

Not really. If he loses, he loses. We've never been ones to make excuses-especially none as petty as weather conditions.

crigazzio
01-19-2005, 11:02 AM
Great, another long night for me!
I think I'm getting used to this... Thank God I'm on vacations! :)
Thanks for the schedule Rosie :wavey:

For me too!!!!But i´m not on vacations yet!!! :(
Jazz, i´ll start to watch the match, but if he start to lose, i have to turn off my tv....I´m the bad luck!!! :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
So see you tonight for the match.....

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 11:09 AM
LOL! See you Ceci! :)

NOUKY
01-19-2005, 11:20 AM
Let's us be back to cheering for our Nalbi ! :woohoo:
I think David needs such tough matches to feel self-confident again and I'm both glad and proud he finally got over his bad record against Ferrer !! :yeah:
It shows he's determined to fight ! I've been so happy to see him again anyway! :yippee: I've been missing him so much since Basel ! And we shouldn't worry too much I 'm convinced his game is going to improve as rounds go by !...in spite of an awful draw (Coria and Hewitt in the same quarter !)
However, he often goes very far when he's got a tough draw..remember in RG ! I wish him good luck against Ventura !
You can do it David...I believe in you ! :smooch:
:bigclap: VAMOS !! :bounce:

crigazzio
01-19-2005, 11:42 AM
ey pepople!!!What we know about Ventura??? How is his record in fast courts??? Somebody knows him???

crigazzio
01-19-2005, 11:55 AM
Dam it, Coria will play first, i´m sure that ESPN will shows that match till the end, I hope he finish fast!!!!

taysbest
01-19-2005, 11:56 AM
Gosh!
I tried to read everything to catch up from yesterday but gave up! :confused: Hope everyone has recovered, seems like there was a lot of strange activity in this thread! Vamos David!

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 12:03 PM
Dam it, Coria will play first, i´m sure that ESPN will shows that match till the end, I hope he finish fast!!!!


Well - David's match clashes directly with Tim Henman who plays on Vodafone Court at the same time - so I have NO CHANCE of seeing any of David's match at all :devil: So it's live scoring for me, and hope it doesn't drag on like the other one or I'll miss the end to get to work again :sad: I personally don't know anything about Ventura, Ceci - but I'm told he is a clay court specialist and doesn't have such good results on hard court. But he is evidently another of these Ferrer/Coria type players who chases after everything and runs everything down and he won't have anything to lose at all out there, so no pressure. I think he may frustrate David like Ferrer does :devil:

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 12:29 PM
You're right Rosie. A spanish girl who posts in the spanish forum told me that. He even beat Hrbaty in the Casablanca final. So he's the type of player that drives David insane. However, David should beat him easily in this surface.

*Ljubica*
01-19-2005, 12:36 PM
You're right Rosie. A spanish girl who posts in the spanish forum told me that. He even beat Hrbaty in the Casablanca final. So he's the type of player that drives David insane. However, David should beat him easily in this surface.

Hmmm - Hrbaty's a class player - that's worrying :eek:

crigazzio
01-19-2005, 12:38 PM
Well - David's match clashes directly with Tim Henman who plays on Vodafone Court at the same time - so I have NO CHANCE of seeing any of David's match at all :devil: So it's live scoring for me, and hope it doesn't drag on like the other one or I'll miss the end to get to work again :sad: I personally don't know anything about Ventura, Ceci - but I'm told he is a clay court specialist and doesn't have such good results on hard court. But he is evidently another of these Ferrer/Coria type players who chases after everything and runs everything down and he won't have anything to lose at all out there, so no pressure. I think he may frustrate David like Ferrer does :devil:
Well, i hope that David can find his way early in the match......and finish in only 3 sets!!!
you´ll be online Rose? I hope so.....

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 12:39 PM
Hmmm - Hrbaty's a class player - that's worrying :eek:

But David crushed Hrbaty the last time they played (ok, it was on clay, but still....), so Ventura may not be that big a prob.

crigazzio
01-19-2005, 12:54 PM
But David crushed Hrbaty the last time they played (ok, it was on clay, but still....), so Ventura may not be that big a prob.
Well, i hope that Ventura will be a little trouble!!!! :p

novanora
01-19-2005, 12:59 PM
Well - David's match clashes directly with Tim Henman who plays on Vodafone Court at the same time - so I have NO CHANCE of seeing any of David's match at all :devil: So it's live scoring for me, and hope it doesn't drag on like the other one or I'll miss the end to get to work again :sad: I personally don't know anything about Ventura, Ceci - but I'm told he is a clay court specialist and doesn't have such good results on hard court. But he is evidently another of these Ferrer/Coria type players who chases after everything and runs everything down and he won't have anything to lose at all out there, so no pressure. I think he may frustrate David like Ferrer does :devil:
if he is a smart man, he won't bump into the same wall twice, though i am not sure this Ventura is really Ferrer's clone or not. But he should learn some experience from Ferrer's match to cope with Ventura. Same type of player, and same playing time, probably same temperature. i can't see any reason he will lose this one.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 01:08 PM
Well, i hope that Ventura will be a little trouble!!!! :p

What? Trouble, as in take David to another five-set marathon? No sir.

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 01:14 PM
I'm pretty confident David will beat him in 3 sets, maybe in 4 if his head is still somwhere else...

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 01:17 PM
I was looking at the 3 round encounters and they're quite tough:
Gaudio vs Hrbaty
Safin vs Ancic
Agassi vs Dent (Dent's been playing pretty well in the prior tournaments, I haven't seem him in Australia yet)
Lopez vs J. Johansson (the crowd should wear helmets!)
Robredo vs Baghdatis (I really wanna see this one!)
I don't think Federer will have problems with Nieminen, but there are a lot of matches I wanna see, but I doubt I will...

justClaudia
01-19-2005, 05:01 PM
Another late night I guess..
I hope he can "take care" of Ventura in 3 sets...otherwise I don't think I can take it!!

This is a bit heavy around this thread...anyway I don't think the troll will be back...since everyone here is a crazy fanatic! I have to LOL at that!

Claudia a.k.a. - crazy sreaming shouting fanatic!! hehehehe!!

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 05:01 PM
Yeah, and Sigma--well, read my signature. That explains it all.

justClaudia
01-19-2005, 05:08 PM
Oh Sigma that is why the guy left!
He got scared with the bitch parade! LOL!

Anyway I'm a proud fanatic no matter what.

Leaving now..see you all later*

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 05:10 PM
LMAO!!!

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 07:00 PM
Guess whooooo's here? Jed Clampett's cousin....

fabolous
01-19-2005, 08:20 PM
pffwhahaha and i thought we coria fans were the only one with trolls.......so, niko, if that is what you call "being a fan" i woudn't be happy if you were a "fan" of me.

b2t: a fourth round match between nally and coria would be awesome, i'd really love to watch it!! i hope you understand that i'd be rooting for guillermo in this case;)

and niko, please stop your "i-am-older-than-you-so-i-am-also-smarter-than-you"-attitude.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 08:33 PM
and niko, please stop your "i-am-older-than-you-so-i-am-also-smarter-than-you"-attitude.

He's probably older with love handles around the waist and wrinkles along his browline, but he is not smarter. The content of his posts would imply this.

niko
01-19-2005, 08:42 PM
He's probably older with love handles around the waist and wrinkles along his browline, but he is not smarter. The content of his posts would imply this.
Common guys let's talk about what we were able to see in the Suzuki's match against Roger. He's beatable and David hopefully watched the game.

niko
01-19-2005, 08:45 PM
Common guys let's talk about what we were able to see in the Suzuki's match against Roger. He's beatable and David hopefully watched the game.
I've seen only three matches of David's besides against Ferrer, I don't remember if David is good at the net.

niko
01-19-2005, 08:46 PM
I promise no more negative. :)

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 09:29 PM
pffwhahaha and i thought we coria fans were the only one with trolls.......so, niko, if that is what you call "being a fan" i woudn't be happy if you were a "fan" of me.

b2t: a fourth round match between nally and coria would be awesome, i'd really love to watch it!! i hope you understand that i'd be rooting for guillermo in this case;)

and niko, please stop your "i-am-older-than-you-so-i-am-also-smarter-than-you"-attitude.
I'm really looking forward to that match as well!!!! :)

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 09:33 PM
I've seen only three matches of David's besides against Ferrer, I don't remember if David is good at the net.
That's good to know.
I already said in another thread what you just said. Suzuki was great, and he showed some of Federer's vulnerability, and if the guy had had a bit more experienced, he would have beaten David, or taken a set or two out of him.
It was a great match to watch, in a long time, for the first time, it wasn't a monologue from Roger.

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 09:37 PM
I've seen only three matches of David's besides against Ferrer, I don't remember if David is good at the net.
He doesn't approch the net too often, but he's not bad at it...maybe he should try it, who knows!
I think he is using some variations in his game, there's a cross forehand (I don't know if this is the best translation...) that he used a lot in the Bs As exhibition and he used it again against Ferrer and it did work for him.
In Bs As he had improven his set a lot, and it's soooo weird it didn't show at all against Ferrer. I hope it just wasn't a bad day and he can use his improved service in a real tournament...

jazz_girl
01-19-2005, 09:44 PM
Horacio de La Peña: "David is an amazing player, he's even more dangerous than Federer if he's at his best" "His backhand is unique, one of the best in the world. And he moves too well in the court, he's very smart" "It was good for us for him to have such a long time, that way he'll be more tired"

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 09:46 PM
I promise no more negative. :)

Yeah, and I won't be a bitch anymore....NOT!!!!

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 09:47 PM
Common guys let's talk about what we were able to see in the Suzuki's match against Roger. He's beatable and David hopefully watched the game.

If you want to discuss Roger's match with Suzuki, you may do so on Roger's forum, not here.

niko
01-19-2005, 11:29 PM
If you want to discuss Roger's match with Suzuki, you may do so on Roger's forum, not here.
Why would you discuss Roger's game on his forum I'dn't even run Roger's forum. There's nothinig negative to say about Roger, boring! It's David who has to take away #1 from him.

niko
01-19-2005, 11:34 PM
Yeah, and I won't be a bitch anymore....NOT!!!!
I think you should try playing tennis, you'll make a great fighter.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 11:55 PM
Why would you discuss Roger's game on his forum I'dn't even run Roger's forum. There's nothinig negative to say about Roger, boring! It's David who has to take away #1 from him.

Hello, dimbulb, there's a player forum called Federer Express. You may add your thoughts about Roger and his match with Suzuki on that forum. This is David's forum.

If you want to discuss the possibility of David's being #1, great. We'd like to hear your perspective, but please stay on topic when you do.

sigmagirl91
01-19-2005, 11:56 PM
I think you should try playing tennis, you'll make a great fighter.

I know it. And, should I give you a cookie? You've actually constructed a coherent sentence....yay, yay, yay for you.

niko
01-20-2005, 12:43 AM
I know it. And, should I give you a cookie? You've actually constructed a coherent sentence....yay, yay, yay for you.
Is perfct English the only language you can understand?

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 12:44 AM
Is perfct English the only language you can understand?

No, but it's the only one I will respectfully respond to. :devil:

niko
01-20-2005, 12:50 AM
No, but it's the only one I will respectfully respond to. :devil:
What state are you in?

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 12:56 AM
What state are you in?

I'm not telling.

niko
01-20-2005, 03:19 AM
I'm not telling.
I'm sorry I was at the tennis club with my 9 year old son who could be your next favorite player you never know, we might be neighbors living across the street.

niko
01-20-2005, 03:20 AM
I'm not telling.
I have a filling we'll become best friends, it happen to me many times.

niko
01-20-2005, 03:21 AM
I'm not telling.
You remember opposites atract

niko
01-20-2005, 03:22 AM
I'm not telling.
And Rosie too.

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 03:24 AM
I have a filling we'll become best friends, it happen to me many times.


Really? You think so? 'Cause I have a feeling that we won't.

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 03:25 AM
You remember opposites atract

Me....the MTF bitch attract or be attracted to a nitwit like you? Only in your dreams.....

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 03:26 AM
I'm sorry I was at the tennis club with my 9 year old son who could be your next favorite player you never know, we might be neighbors living across the street.

If we are, I am moving.

niko
01-20-2005, 03:26 AM
Really? You think so? 'Cause I have a feeling that we won't.
Common Sigmagirl don't burn bridges, you ca see I also have a bright side

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 03:27 AM
Common Sigmagirl don't burn bridges, you ca see I also have a bright side

Is that "bright side" your ass? :devil:

novanora
01-20-2005, 03:28 AM
Getting away from Niko's daft trolling for a moment..........the Order of Play is out - and David plays 3rd on Margaret Court Arena - so pretty much the same time as the Ferrer match.

MCA Start Time 11.00 AM

MS - 2nd Rnd. Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER) vs. Nicolas Massu (CHI)[18]

followed by
WS - 2nd Rnd. Lindsay Davenport (USA)[1] vs. Michaela Pastikova (CZE)

MS - 2nd Rnd. Santiago Ventura (ESP) vs. David Nalbandian (ARG)[9]

Not Before 7:30 PM

MS - 2nd Rnd. Mariano Zabaleta (ARG) vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[31]
This OOP changed, now his match is arranged after Smashnova vs Tanasugarn


MCA Start Time 11.00 AM

Men's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER) vs Nicolas Massu (CHI)[18]

Women's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Lindsay Davenport (USA)[1] vs. Michaela Pastikova (CZE)

followed by
Women's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Anna Smashnova (ISR)[27] vs. Tamarine Tanasugarn (THA)

Men's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Santiago Ventura (ESP) vs. David Nalbandian (ARG)[9]

Not Before 7:30 PM
Men's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Mariano Zabaleta (ARG) vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[31]

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 03:29 AM
This OOP changed, now his match is arranged after Smashnova vs Tanasugarn


MCA Start Time 11.00 AM

Men's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER) vs Nicolas Massu (CHI)[18]

Women's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Lindsay Davenport (USA)[1] vs. Michaela Pastikova (CZE)

followed by
Women's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Anna Smashnova (ISR)[27] vs. Tamarine Tanasugarn (THA)

Men's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Santiago Ventura (ESP) vs. David Nalbandian (ARG)[9]

Not Before 7:30 PM
Men's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Mariano Zabaleta (ARG) vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[31]

We heard; it sucks.

novanora
01-20-2005, 03:29 AM
If we are, I am moving.
:lol::haha:

niko
01-20-2005, 03:31 AM
Is that "bright side" your ass? :devil:
Actually it's my undercover side

novanora
01-20-2005, 03:32 AM
We heard; it sucks.
sig, i guess it's very late for u

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 03:32 AM
Actually it's my undercover side

In that case, no thanks.

novanora
01-20-2005, 03:33 AM
Actually it's my undercover side
you distract this thread a lot :o

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 03:34 AM
Niko, I don't want you for a couple of reasons: you're too little and you're too flat.

niko
01-20-2005, 03:34 AM
you distract this thread a lot :o
Hey I'm trying to make friends.

sigmagirl91
01-20-2005, 03:35 AM
Hey I'm trying to make friends.

You're not succeeding.

niko
01-20-2005, 03:36 AM
You're not succeeding.
At least I tried.

niko
01-20-2005, 03:39 AM
OK Novanora good morning! How're you doing?

novanora
01-20-2005, 03:42 AM
I've seen only three matches of David's besides against Ferrer, I don't remember if David is good at the net.
if you saw his match in last year Madrid and Basel, you can see he has good sense at the net, and very quick reaction. He approached the net a lot when in the later hard-court season last year, and pretty succeed if i say.

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 03:42 AM
Oh for goodness sake -I am seriously p***** off :devil: Why have I got up at 4.00am to see our lovely Forum full of arguments and b******t :banghead: Please, please, PLEASE can people stop griping at each other on here - this Forum used to be a haven of peace and tranquillity after the grief you can sometimes expect on GM, but now it just seems to be the background for some schoolyard slanging matches worthy of the viler members of DuckNation! I will just give up on it completely soon if it doesn't go back to normality - I get enough stress all day at work and I truly don't need it here - I don't thrive on rowing - it makes me really ill and unhappy - I hate it so much :sad: - so if we're all fans of David why can't we live in harmony like we used to?

Anyway - seems I got up too early because even though Davenport and Massu are over they have put some stupid WTA match on before David :sad: And just to make matters worse - our TV were showing Coria when I got up (at least watchable much as I dislike him!) - but then they switched to show Serena Williams - aaargh :banghead: :banghead:

Sorry for the rant and Vamos David.

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 03:47 AM
Oh for goodness sake -I am seriously p***** off :devil: Why have I got up at 4.00am to see our lovely Forum full of arguments and b******t :banghead: Please, please, PLEASE can people stop griping at each other on here - this Forum used to be a haven of peace and tranquillity after the grief you can sometimes expect on GM, but now it just seems to be the background for some schoolyard slanging matches worthy of the viler members of DuckNation! I will just give up on it completely soon if it doesn't go back to normality - I get enough stress all day at work and I truly don't need it here - I don't thrive on rowing - it makes me really ill and unhappy - I hate it so much :sad: - so if we're all fans of David why can't we live in harmony like we used to?

Anyway - seems I got up too early because even though Davenport and Massu are over they have put some stupid WTA match on before David :sad: And just to make matters worse - our TV were showing Coria when I got up (at least watchable much as I dislike him!) - but then they switched to show Serena Williams - aaargh :banghead: :banghead:

Sorry for the rant and Vamos David.
I agree, can't we just stop fighting and enjoy the match that is about to start. Smashnova just won, so David is next up.
I really hope Coria wins fast so I can see David in my tv :)

novanora
01-20-2005, 03:47 AM
Niko, I don't want you for a couple of reasons: you're too little and you're too flat.
have to agree now :o

OK Novanora good morning! How're you doing?
again, this is Australian Open thread!!! not making friends thread!!! don't distract it any more!! and if you really want to make friends with us, just share your thinking-over oppinion about david's tennis, not asking sig's privacy!

and thanks for your greeting, but it's noon here, and i am fine!

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 03:52 AM
Is anyone watching the Coria/Mello match? This Mello guy is playing some brilliant tennis and is really pissing Coria off. The one time I wanted him to win fast :mad:

niko
01-20-2005, 03:53 AM
if you saw his match in last year Madrid and Basel, you can see he has good sense at the net, and very quick reaction. He approached the net a lot when in the later hard-court season last year, and pretty succeed if i say.
I don't have access to Tennis Chanel on DirecTV yet, but there's hope, I only watch his games on ESPN or ESPN2 which are rare unless he's in quarters or semis of Big Tours, I was in Moscow in June with a visit and that's where I watched his Gaudio match at RG quarters, I felt like crashing the TV box in the second set when he aws up 5-0 and couldn't hold.

novanora
01-20-2005, 03:54 AM
I agree, can't we just stop fighting and enjoy the match that is about to start. Smashnova just won, so David is next up.
I really hope Coria wins fast so I can see David in my tv :)
i think i can't watch his match today, after Williams live match, i guess our tv will repeat Coria's match lol
bring me some good news, if you can watch it.

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 03:59 AM
I really hope I can bring you good news!
But I'm soooo tired right now! It's 2am and I'm falling asleep!

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:01 AM
Is anyone watching the Coria/Mello match? This Mello guy is playing some brilliant tennis and is really pissing Coria off. The one time I wanted him to win fast :mad:

I got to see about 2 games of it when I got up before Eurosport decided we needed to see Serena instead :devil: I like Mello actually- he's a good player - and those 2 games were enough to remind me how much I loathe Coria - so petulant like a spoilt child :banghead: Hope you get to see David after him though!!

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:02 AM
We'll defenetly get to see David, but as soon as Coria ends his match, so he'd better hurry!

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:03 AM
Is anyone watching the Coria/Mello match? This Mello guy is playing some brilliant tennis and is really pissing Coria off. The one time I wanted him to win fast :mad:
Ricardo has very good forehand, but quite crappy backhand. and he is the one who never gives up any chance. i had expected he can produced some trouble to Coria before this match. it won't be that fast.

BTW, willy won again today!!! :woohoo:

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:06 AM
And Chela won too!!!
Mello is up 2-0 in the fourth set. This is gonna be sooooo long!

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:07 AM
Ricardo has very good forehand, but quite crappy backhand. and he is the one who never gives up any chance. i had expected he can produced some trouble to Coria before this match. it won't be that fast.

BTW, willy won again today!!! :woohoo:

Congrats Willy :worship: - and why the hell haven't they even got this scoreboard for David's match up yet :eek: I'll never see even the 1st set at this rate!!!

niko
01-20-2005, 04:08 AM
i think i can't watch his match today, after Williams live match, i guess our tv will repeat Coria's match lol
bring me some good news, if you can watch it.
What programming you are watching Novanora?

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:10 AM
Congrats Willy :worship: - and why the hell haven't they even got this scoreboard for David's match up yet :eek: I'll never see even the 1st set at this rate!!!
I'm kind of glad actually, the latter he's in the more I'll be able to see.
Coria, end this NOW!!!

niko
01-20-2005, 04:10 AM
What programming you are watching Novanora?
I'm watching ESPN2 it's Williams match right now

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:14 AM
I don't have access to Tennis Chanel on DirecTV yet, but there's hope, I only watch his games on ESPN or ESPN2 which are rare unless he's in quarters or semis of Big Tours, I was in Moscow in June with a visit and that's where I watched his Gaudio match at RG quarters, I felt like crashing the TV box in the second set when he aws up 5-0 and couldn't hold.
i watched both his clay matches and later indoor hardcourt matches, though many of them are videos, not live lol but have to say his tennis style is quite different on clay RG and hard court. He likes to play forward spin on clay, but more flat on hard court, and more attacking for sure. Also, he increases the net approaching, and also the drop, lob mixed up. He is pretty smart, not like other clay players who always keeps forward spin both on clay and hard court. of course we know he prefer fast surface.

and also his backhand, i just noticed he increased the slice and changed the playing rhythm by one-hand backhand, but attacking, giving pressure, making opponent running a lot by doublehand backhand. Of course, you can see this strategy and style from many players, but he mixed it up very well on indoor carpet, which really impressed me much.

if you watched those matches, you would see that.

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:17 AM
I'm watching ESPN2 it's Williams match right now

here's Williams too, because she is playing a Chinese girl, so our tv must show this one.

I watch Starsports southeast asian channel, seems it really have preference to Roddick, Roger, Agassi, many American players and Asian players for sure.

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:18 AM
It's taking a lot of time for David and Ventura to enter the court...

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:20 AM
David is on and Ventura's serving 0-30

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:20 AM
I'm kind of glad actually, the latter he's in the more I'll be able to see.
Coria, end this NOW!!!
he has been broken in the 4th set, so it won't be that fast.

Actually i pretty hope Ricardo can make this match, i really like this guy, but he should hang up his backhand, half of guga at least :p

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:22 AM
David is on and Ventura's serving 0-30
can u watch it? or only the S/B?

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:22 AM
David started breaking Ventura's service. He's up *1-0

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:23 AM
David is on and Ventura's serving 0-30

All I want is for David to win this match very quickly and easily. And - I'm sorry - now Mello is leading in the 4th set - I so want him to win that match! Henman is on after him so I'm not going to see David anyway whatever they do - sorry to be selfish :)

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:24 AM
He's up 2-0* winning in a love game. Keep it up :yeah:

niko
01-20-2005, 04:25 AM
here's Williams too, because she is playing a Chinese girl, so our tv must show this one.

I watch Starsports southeast asian channel, seems it really have preference to Roddick, Roger, Agassi, many American players and Asian players for sure.
That's really sad, consumers paying fortune for very inexpensive satelite systems and aren't able to choose.

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:27 AM
And David broke again! :banana: *3-0

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:28 AM
He's up 2-0* winning in a love game. Keep it up :yeah:

Yes - come on David :yeah: Must say you would laugh if you could see me now. I am sitting here eating a bowl of porridge for breakfast with both cats trying to get on my knee and steal my breakfast, while I try to follow live score and keep my eye on the TV at the same time!!

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:29 AM
That's really sad, consumers paying fortune for very inexpensive satelite systems and aren't able to choose.
are u digging at me?

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:31 AM
And David broke again! :banana: *3-0
he really does fast :eek: :eek: and painlessly?

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:33 AM
4-0*!!!!!!

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:34 AM
he really does fast :eek: :eek: and painlessly?

4-0 now :banana: He did seem to have more trouble on that last service game though.

niko
01-20-2005, 04:34 AM
are u digging at me?
What do you mean?

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:34 AM
4-0 :woohoo:

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:37 AM
What do you mean?
because you use the words "inexpensive satellite system" and "aren't able to choose", which let me feel you are digging at me, or sarcasm. sorry if i misunderstand u

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:37 AM
Coria broke back. C'mon hurry up! I wanna see David winning a match easily!
And David keeps taking his chances!!!! *5-0 now the moment of truth: serving for set! :)

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:39 AM
5-0 :eek:

i really want to know how he plays!! who can watch it?

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:41 AM
[QUOTE=novanora]5-0 :eek:



Maybe Jazz might get it once Coria's over. I certainly won't because Henman follows Coria :devil:

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:41 AM
6-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:42 AM
first time, my heart is quite safe, and prevent from being tortured.....

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:43 AM
Stats from the 1st set:
David:
1st serve: 71%
DF: 0
winners: 5
UE: 3
BP: 3/4 75%

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:44 AM
David's match will be over before Coria's :rolleyes:

niko
01-20-2005, 04:45 AM
because you use the words "inexpensive satellite system" and "aren't able to choose", which let me feel you are digging at me, or sarcasm. sorry if i misunderstand u
You misunderstood me. I'm a satelite consumer who is paying $50 a month for a basic package that full of commercials and I'm not able to choose which program I want to watch and which match.

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:46 AM
Nalbandian vs Ventura 6-0 *0-1

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:48 AM
:devil: David's match will be over before Coria's :rolleyes:

Even we have the Coria tie-break now. I 'm sure he'll win it now :devil: Mello had his chance this set and blew it. I relly canont stand Coria though!! :eek:

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:49 AM
Coria just won. Both players were amazing!!!
And now: David!!!
6-0 1-1*
David made 2 aces in this game :)

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:52 AM
You misunderstood me. I'm a satelite consumer who is paying $50 a month for a basic package that full of commercials and I'm not able to choose which program I want to watch and which match.
sorry for that.

our satellite is not very expensive, so i won't complain which match they broadcast, because it seems David's match is put as preference only in Argentina. Even for European ones, are not easy to watch.

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:53 AM
We have the Coria interview now, David will be up next! :)
6-0 *1-2

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:53 AM
Coria just won. Both players were amazing!!!
And now: David!!!
6-0 1-1*
David made 2 aces in this game :)

Jazz - you're so lucky. We're seeing the start of Hewitt and Blake until Henman comes out on court.

novanora
01-20-2005, 04:54 AM
Coria just won. Both players were amazing!!!
And now: David!!!
6-0 1-1*
David made 2 aces in this game :)
we will have hewitt soon. how does David play today?

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:56 AM
Still not on, after the commercial break we will have him.
Hey, his service was at 78% :eek:

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 04:57 AM
Seems like Ventura has settled down a bit now - maybe he was just nervous in that first set. I hope David doesn't get complacent and keeps up his level or he could have more problems than we need :devil: .

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 04:57 AM
2-2
He didn't get one single first service in this game, however he still managed to win 40-0

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 05:00 AM
I'm watching it now, and from what I see it's all Ventura's fault. He's making way too many UE!
David just broke him again, he's up 3-2

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 05:02 AM
Ventura's UE: 27
David's: 7
There's the difference. I wanna see David serve now.

novanora
01-20-2005, 05:03 AM
Ventura's UE: 27
David's: 7
There's the difference. I wanna see David serve now.
reminds me safin's first round against Novak, Ventura made too many UE, even no chance for david to increase his winner

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 05:04 AM
David's up 4-2 serving well and not making errors. He's very confortable and playing smart points.

novanora
01-20-2005, 05:05 AM
we have to watch Hewitt's "come on" now

novanora
01-20-2005, 05:06 AM
David's up 4-2 serving well and not making errors. He's very confortable and playing smart points.
good to see he is hanging up today, otherwise i don't know how he will face Gonzalez

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 05:07 AM
Jazz - what is Ventura like? You know looks, clothes etc? I've never, ever seen him and it helps me to get a picture in my mind of the match.

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 05:11 AM
He's got dark curly hair, he's wearing a cap, wearing it backwards. I can't tell if he's tall or not, but it seems he's got an average height. He's wearing a red shirt. Hope that helps :)
David's serving now *4-3

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 05:14 AM
5-3
David is making a bit more mistakes now. I think this match is too easy and getting bored. The real test will be Gonzalez...

*Ljubica*
01-20-2005, 05:15 AM
He's got dark curly hair, he's wearing a cap, wearing it backwards. I can't tell if he's tall or not, but it seems he's got an average height. He's wearing a red shirt. Hope that helps :)
David's serving now *4-3

Thanks :) I am still here but I just can't post so often as I was before, because I have to put my make-up on and do my hair for work :)

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 05:17 AM
LMAO!!! There are doves flying in the court. They bothered David when he was serving and now they're bothering Ventura too! lol

novanora
01-20-2005, 05:21 AM
5-3
David is making a bit more mistakes now. I think this match is too easy and getting bored. The real test will be Gonzalez...
my worry. i just saw he wasted bp again, and after Gonzalez, Coria is waiting there.

Björki
01-20-2005, 05:21 AM
Vamos David :bounce:
Good morning girls :)

Björki
01-20-2005, 05:22 AM
David 6-0, 6-3 :bounce:

novanora
01-20-2005, 05:22 AM
LMAO!!! There are doves flying in the court. They bothered David when he was serving and now they're bothering Ventura too! lol
this is another group of David fans

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 05:22 AM
He just wasted 1 bp, the other ones were saved with aces from Ventura :)
He won the second set 6-0 6-3 :banana:

novanora
01-20-2005, 05:24 AM
Vamos David :bounce:
Godd morning girls :)
good morning, Björki :bigwave:

jazz_girl
01-20-2005, 05:24 AM
2nd set stats:
Aces: 2
1st service: 14/21 67%
winners: 7
UE 6
BP: 2/6 33%