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Djokovic, Federer, Murray schedules for remainder of season

Johnny Groove
09-11-2012, 06:48 PM
The race to #1 may well come down to the final week of the season. Since none of the top 3 are playing Davis Cup final, it could come down to the WTF and possibly even the WTF final to determine the year end #1.

Current Race Standings:

Djokovic- 9,910
Federer- 8,905
Murray- 6,730

Purely looking at the numbers, it appears as though it may be only a 2 horse race, but with Murray's surely bursting confidence now, perhaps he could sweep the fall season?

For Djokovic:

Beijing- Could gain 500 points
Shanghai- Could gain 1000 points
Paris- Could gain 1000 points
WTF- Could gain 1500 points

For Federer:

Davis Cup- Could gain 15 points
Shanghai- Could gain 1000 points
Basel- Could gain 500 points, but would have to drop 10-25 Davis Cup points
Paris- Could gain 1000 points
WTF- Could gain 1500 points

For Murray:

Tokyo- Could gain 500 points
Shanghai- Could gain 1000 points
Basel- Could gain 500 points
Paris- Could gain 1000 points
WTF- Could gain 1500 points

Now, bear in mind, all players could at any point take a wildcard into any other event and score some more points, as I'm sure any tournament director would love to have them.

So it is all very much in the air at this point.

Time Violation
09-11-2012, 07:07 PM
Don't think Novak can possibly miss Tokyo with Uniqlo being his sponsor :)

Johnny Groove
09-11-2012, 07:19 PM
Perhaps so, Taejin, but Djokovic is already signed up for Beijing :shrug: perhaps he has a previous agreement with the Beijing event.

He can't play both tournaments the same week :p

He is good, but not that good :p

TigerTim
09-11-2012, 07:24 PM
Tokyo is a sure fire victory for Murray. Pushray turned to Goatray there last year

Shanghai has apparently speeded up at federer request.

Time Violation
09-11-2012, 07:38 PM
Yea, you're right, weird, probably he was already signed up or something.

JoWillyTso
09-11-2012, 07:53 PM
It's between Federer and Djokovic this year, barre Murray winning everything. Next year should be interesting though. Nadal should be back and Murray will be looking forward to his first full season as a grand slam champion.

duong
09-11-2012, 08:19 PM
Murray has entered Basel

Djokovic has entered neither Basel nor Valencia, it's official (see the section "upcoming tournaments" of the forum)

Fed cannot get any points in Davis cup as his zero for Tokyo will stay in his rankings and race

Litotes
09-11-2012, 08:37 PM
Murray has entered Basel

Djokovic has entered neither Basel nor Valencia, it's official (see the section "upcoming tournaments" of the forum)

Fed cannot get any points in Davis cup as his zero for Tokyo will stay in his rankings and race

Fed could get DC points, but only if he plays Basel and DC points are better. A first-round loss in Basel is not likely, though.

duong
09-11-2012, 09:12 PM
Fed could get DC points, but only if he plays Basel and DC points are better. A first-round loss in Basel is not likely, though.

no as he will keep his zero from Tokyo.

He has two non-countable results at the moment : Davis cup and Doha which anyway will be better than Davis cup.

duong
09-11-2012, 09:37 PM
^^Neither DC nor Olympics are counting directly for the ATP 500 commitment. Is that right, Duong?

yes, right.

JurajCrane
09-11-2012, 09:39 PM
Yeah Murray in Basel, Djokovic playing only Beijing from 500s.

Roamed
09-11-2012, 10:29 PM
Random guessing assuming nobody has a horror indoor season...

Djokovic W Beijing, SF Shanghai, W Paris, SF World Tour Finals (2 RR wins) = 12170 points
Federer SF Shanghai, W Basel, DNP Paris, W World Tour Finals (2 RR wins + semis W + final W) = 11255 points
Murray W Tokyo, W Shanghai, SF Basel, DNP Paris, F World Tour Finals (2 RR wins + semis W) = 9210 points

yesyesok
09-11-2012, 10:57 PM
Djokovic fell to pieces at this time last year. Unless he does that again he will coast to number one.

Federer won't risk an injury to keep it now.

blank_frackis
09-11-2012, 11:01 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Murray went the opposite direction and had a bit of a slump. He finally achieved his aim so I can't see him being raring to go win in Tokyo again.

n8
09-11-2012, 11:15 PM
Finally an interesting race to year end number one. By this point in the season it has been virtually sewn up each year since 2003.

It's a shame Murray went so poor in Masters 1000s this year (only 1 semi-final or better) or else it could've been REALLY interesting.

Corey Feldman
09-11-2012, 11:16 PM
Djoko will end up playing Basel, he likes it there as it gives him a chance to sabotage Fed in his own house

duong
09-12-2012, 08:31 AM
Djoko will end up playing Basel, he likes it there as it gives him a chance to sabotage Fed in his own house

he would have had a lot of money by entering first, he would surely get a wild-card if he asked for it but not the money as Basel's business plan has already been made.

Imo he clearly decided to priviledge Bercy then WTF, which may be a very good plan both for rankings and money, and not necessarily bad for the WTF. It would have been different playing 3 weeks in a row.

Looner
09-12-2012, 09:51 AM
Finally an interesting race to year end number one. By this point in the season it has been virtually sewn up each year since 2003.

It's a shame Murray went so poor in Masters 1000s this year (only 1 semi-final or better) or else it could've been REALLY interesting.

Um, no. The race to YE #1 in 2009 went down to the WTF. It's not RF's fault RN got his behind handed to him on a platter there.

duong
09-12-2012, 10:06 AM
But seriously, I think that Djokovic and Murray (who are at friendly terms) have agreed that only one of them would play Basel. (Otherwise they could meet there already in the semis.)

I agree at the moment it seems most likely that Djokovic doesn't intend to play 5 events in 6 weeks.
Like all of the Big 4 he prefers to play 2 (or 3) weeks prior to and rest the week directly before a Slam. But the WTF is a short and relatively fast tournament. Probably he plans to gather pace at Paris (treat Paris and WTF as one step) while Federer and Murray wouldn't go all out there.

I don't know if there's a friendly agreement between Djokovic and Murray, but it makes sense for other reasons :

- Murray will probably skip Paris as it would have been strange for him to play right before the WTF in his country, it might even have been criticized in his country who will welcome the "hero", that way he can also make promotion in London the week before the WTF. But he needs to play one indoor tournament to get rhythm, and it's Basel, where last year he asked for a wild-card to withdraw in last minute because he had slept badly and had a problem with his neck (to play very well in Bercy next week), which was understandably very badly considered : he kind of had to go to Basel to keep his reputation among tournament directors ;

- for Djokovic, there are more points to gather in the rankings in Bercy for the YE #1 than in Basel-Valencia and they might also be easier to get if, as I think, Fed and Murray don't come in Paris and play in Basel previous week. It would be quite like Toronto for Djokovic. Besides, playing Paris will allow him to get the maximum money from the ATP's bonus pool (Fed will not have that problem if he plays Shanghai as it's a priviledge of his age, and Fed has to play Basel of course).