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Who had the best year till now?

Vyomsky
09-11-2012, 01:37 AM
Federer - Wim, 3 MS, Olympics finals
Nadal - RG, 2 MS, AO finals
Djokovic - AO, 2 MS, USO and RG finals
Murray - USO, OG, Wim finals

Of course, points wise Nole leads and rankings do not lie. So do you agree with the rankings or...?

stripes
09-11-2012, 01:38 AM
It has to be murray a GS, Gold medal and Silver medal, 4 diff winners as well this year :yeah:

Garson007
09-11-2012, 01:39 AM
It's a curious one. I think Novak edges it at this moment, but it being an Olympic year makes it all the more confusing.

ufiors
09-11-2012, 01:40 AM
Season is not finished yet. This is question to do after the WTF.

philosophicalarf
09-11-2012, 01:40 AM
Funny given that Murray has won so many masters, he doesn't seem to give a crap about them now :-)

Coolio_Jack
09-11-2012, 01:41 AM
WTF could decide, but so far Murray has the edge, big titles are what counts, ranking is irrelevant, and Murray has won 2 out of 5.

Ash86
09-11-2012, 01:42 AM
Murray - the others would swap their masters for the Gold medal in a heartbeat. All 4 already have a lot of Masters so that isn't the big prize for them.

IOFH
09-11-2012, 01:42 AM
Federer > No2e > Murray

WhoCares
09-11-2012, 01:43 AM
He who wins the WTF would have the best season.

TigerTim
09-11-2012, 01:43 AM
its very close

Federer is No.1 for a reason though.

Johnny Groove
09-11-2012, 01:44 AM
Djokovic has had the most consistent year, really. But it ain't over yet, and it could very well come down to the WTF final. Even Murray has a chance to get to #1 if he vultures like a mofo in the fall.

Garson007
09-11-2012, 01:44 AM
I think WTF is indeed what stands in the way. The Gold medal is curious, because how does it compare to slam finals in worth?

rocketassist
09-11-2012, 01:45 AM
Whoever wins WTF. Unless someone like Del Potro wins it, if so then well whoever is number one after it.

sexybeast
09-11-2012, 01:46 AM
Federer had a clean year with almost nothing to regret (except the Olympics finals where he had no chanse).

Murray had a magical late breakthrought year with 2 major titles. However missing some success in a great part of the season, drought during clay season and american pre-Usopen swing and no title during slow hardcourt season.

Djokovic had a dissapointing year but with alot of finals and he was pretty much everywhere, but most often losing in the end.

Season will be decided during indoor season and it feels like Djokovic wont have energy to be very competitive in his worst surface. It will be all about Federer, Murray and maybe Berdych. Probably most about Federer, but Murray could take the WTF.

swebright
09-11-2012, 01:49 AM
Fed is the only one without 2 grand slam finals, so he is least successful. But he gets back to number one over past 3 slam winner of the cycle, so ........

Mountaindewslave
09-11-2012, 01:51 AM
Djokovic has had the most consistent year, really. But it ain't over yet, and it could very well come down to the WTF final. Even Murray has a chance to get to #1 if he vultures like a mofo in the fall.

what??? how has his year been more consistant than Federer? it just hasn't. Aside from the US Open hiccup Federer has had the best year but Murray I think should take the cake because of the pure eye catching feat of slam + olympics

abraxas21
09-11-2012, 01:51 AM
it's between federer and murray.

Johnny Groove
09-11-2012, 01:51 AM
Fed ought to buy Murray a car after this, had Nole won, Fed would have no chance of YE #1. As it is, both and even Murray has a chance.

Johnny Groove
09-11-2012, 01:53 AM
what??? how has his year been more consistant than Federer? it just hasn't. Aside from the US Open hiccup Federer has had the best year but Murray I think should take the cake because of the pure eye catching feat of slam + olympics

Don't be blinded, mate, Djokovic is leading Fed by over 1,000 points in the race.

Mistik
09-11-2012, 01:54 AM
its very close

Federer is No.1 for a reason though.

Yeah, fucked up ranking system!!!

Novak had more points last year, and more points this year.

Go figure...

Ash86
09-11-2012, 01:55 AM
Fed ought to buy Murray a car after this, had Nole won, Fed would have no chance of YE #1. As it is, both and even Murray has a chance.

Murray to cap off an epic year by winning the WTF in front of his home crowd in London without losing to anyone - 1500 points - can see it happening! :D

rjmartin
09-11-2012, 01:55 AM
This forum is a joke.

A guy makes the Wimbledon final, wins olympic gold & follows it up with his maiden grand slam title in the US - and you lot have Federer out in front LMAO

Mistik
09-11-2012, 01:56 AM
Yeah, fucked up ranking system!!!

Novak had more points last year, and more points this year.

Go figure...

and the way it is fucked up- he could have more points next year- and still Fed would lead!

But thats the way it is...

IOFH
09-11-2012, 01:57 AM
Yeah, fucked up ranking system!!!

Novak had more points last year, and more points this year.

Go figure...

Nothing fucked up about it, it's actually quite logical.

bizzle
09-11-2012, 01:58 AM
Sir Andy Murray of course :worship: :crazy:

Mistik
09-11-2012, 01:59 AM
This forum is a joke.

A guy makes the Wimbledon final, wins olympic gold & follows it up with his maiden grand slam title in the US - and you lot have Federer out in front LMAO

Yeah, and we should just ignore first six months??

Your just pumped up, chill...

But, it is close between the 3 of them at this moment. Nole still leads the way by rank.

Well see soon enough

Topspindoctor
09-11-2012, 01:59 AM
Sadly, Mugray. He did one good deed though: Deny Cryerer a gold medal in singles.

Mistik
09-11-2012, 02:01 AM
Nothing fucked up about it, it's actually quite logical.

How is it logical?

It may be the best they could do, but how is it not fuced up- when you could earn more points this and next year, along with year before- and still decline behind other player?

Certinfy
09-11-2012, 02:02 AM
Murray. A GS and Olympic Gold pretty much wins it, then when you add a Wimbledon final to that too it only gets better. :cool:

Mistik
09-11-2012, 02:04 AM
Murray. A GS and Olympic Gold pretty much wins it, then when you add a Wimbledon final to that too it only gets better. :cool:

If he did at least something in first six months...

Nevertheless- Olypm gold, US open... preety good...:)

TigerTim
09-11-2012, 02:06 AM
murray needs to add a to Masters or two


lol tards used to say he could only win those


now he is ace in the slams and olympics :cool:

nastoff
09-11-2012, 02:08 AM
easy to answer now

Federer first ( getting back to no1 was incredible, broke a couple of more records this year and won lots of tournaments including a slam ).
then Murray ( bad 1st half of the year but stormed back with Wimbledon final, Olympics gold and now his USO title )
then Djokovic ( started strong with the Aussie but won no other major this year )
then Nadal ( only the RG this year and a lot of pressure on him then the injury )

If Murray wins Masters Cup he will surpass Federer.

emotion
09-11-2012, 02:08 AM
It isn't Nadal. There is a real case for other 3 though. I say... Djokovic, Murray, Federer. But any of those three could become the bestthis year easily

Johnny Groove
09-11-2012, 02:08 AM
This forum is a joke.

A guy makes the Wimbledon final, wins olympic gold & follows it up with his maiden grand slam title in the US - and you lot have Federer out in front LMAO

An early loss at IW, Cincy, Canada, and a no show in the clay season damaged Murray.

I think Madrid is the only event all year that Nole lost before SF, but I may be wrong.

guga2120
09-11-2012, 02:08 AM
Murray has two huge wins, so him right now.

Federer and Novak are about the same right now, except Novak has done better in the slams. Madrid does not really count.

hipolymer
09-11-2012, 02:09 AM
Based on slams (which are most important), obviously Djokovic.

tripwires
09-11-2012, 02:11 AM
Roger. Wimbledon win + broke Sampras' #1 record + silver medal + 5 (? Cant remember exactly) titles, 3 of which are Masters title.

Murray is a close second

GOATsol
09-11-2012, 02:12 AM
I am a Fedtard, but I think Djokovic edges him in this one because of the QF loss.

Branimir
09-11-2012, 02:13 AM
And Djokovic still leads the race. Haha. Bizarre year.

Matt01
09-11-2012, 02:18 AM
Djokovic is the best player of the year because of his 3 Slam finals.


its very close

Federer is No.1 for a reason though.


And that reason is his good indoor season from last year :facepalm:

Djokovic is #1 in the race for a reason.

Ben.
09-11-2012, 02:21 AM
It's deceptively tight between them all.

I don't think any of them sustained top form for any extended period.

I think it has to be Djokovic though. Three slam finals is too much. I could see why some would not take him though, as he has not beaten any of the top 4 since RG SF and is 5-8 against them. Plus his level of play is clearly down from last year and he has looked more mentally frail post AO.

abraxas21
09-11-2012, 02:24 AM
This forum is a joke.

A guy makes the Wimbledon final, wins olympic gold & follows it up with his maiden grand slam title in the US - and you lot have Federer out in front LMAO

put things into perspective.

federer got back to no. 1 and by that he broke sampras' record. that's a pretty big deal in itself, perhaps even on par with winning a slam, imo.

as much as federer wanted the olympic gold, i'm sure he wouldn't trade his 2012 season over murray's, nadal's or djokovic's.

that doesn't take anything away from murray, who's had the best season in terms of the importance of the tournaments won thus far. i'm sure he wouldn't trade his season either.

nastoff
09-11-2012, 02:27 AM
perhaps people are biased due to Djokovic' incredible last season...so a relatively less succesful season is not considered as "hot"..also losing the no 1 to Federer and winning no other major since the AO is another factor.

xargon
09-11-2012, 02:29 AM
novak so far

DJ Soup
09-11-2012, 02:29 AM
Federer and Murray, both equally successful seasons for different reasons


Roger: He has lost the absolute spotlight these past 2 years and then suddenly he's winning loads again. At 30 going to 31 he proves he's still THE big deal, wins Wimbledon and takes the Nº1 back. While the other top guns are in their prime and youthful years, the old legend still manages to get the top ranking while extending his wimbledon and slam count records. Phew! Legendary season for the Fed.

Andy: More than ever before, his Wimbledon campaign has been his most convincing to date, and then wins the Gold in front of his local crowd. And then at US Open he wins his first Slam, cutting short a bad record. And the first slam is always the most special one.

theseth1119
09-11-2012, 02:31 AM
Here's something to ponder, points to defend the rest of the year and how many points each has now from the past 12 months...

1.) Rogie 3,000 (Basel 500 + Paris 1,000 + World Tour Finals 1,500), he's defending the most, but the good news is he's also playing Shanghai which he skipped in 2011, and he can gain up to 1,000 points here to offset not defending the other 3 events again.
2.) Djokovic 560 (Basel 180 + Paris 180 + World Tour Finals 200), he really faded down the line and has the most to gain in 2012, he's playing these three plus Beijing and Shanghai last I read, but playing all 5 is a lot on his body.
3.) Murray 1,930 (Bangkok 250 + Tokyo 500 + Shanghai 1,000 + Paris 180, he did a lot in the Asian swing winning all 3 titles, but little in Paris and nothing at the WTF.
4.) Rafa 590 (Tokyo 300 + Shanghai 90 + World Tour Finals 200), but he's basically irrelevant now, really faded down the line.

Points: Rogie has 11,805; Djokovic has 10,470; Murray has 8,570 and Rafa has 7,515.

Roy Emerson
09-11-2012, 02:31 AM
WTF winner, if he is one of the top 3.

Cousin Oliver
09-11-2012, 02:35 AM
I voted Federer but an argument could be made for Murray.

guga2120
09-11-2012, 02:36 AM
Here's something to ponder, points to defend the rest of the year and how many points each has now from the past 12 months...

1.) Rogie 3,000 (Basel 500 + Paris 1,000 + World Tour Finals 1,500), he's defending the most, but the good news is he's also playing Shanghai which he skipped in 2011, and he can gain up to 1,000 points here to offset not defending the other 3 events again.
2.) Djokovic 560 (Basel 180 + Paris 180 + World Tour Finals 200), he really faded down the line and has the most to gain in 2012, he's playing these three plus Beijing and Shanghai last I read, but playing all 5 is a lot on his body.
3.) Murray 1,930 (Bangkok 250 + Tokyo 500 + Shanghai 1,000 + Paris 180, he did a lot in the Asian swing winning all 3 titles, but little in Paris and nothing at the WTF.
4.) Rafa 590 (Tokyo 300 + Shanghai 90 + World Tour Finals 200), but he's basically irrelevant now, really faded down the line.

Points: Rogie has 11,805; Djokovic has 10,470; Murray has 8,570 and Rafa has 7,515.

Novak is leading the race and if he has anything left at all, he will get the ranking back. He has had a long year, and he physically burnt out last fall. Murray could certainly get to number 2 again.

Rafa will not play this year.

theseth1119
09-11-2012, 02:41 AM
What are the odds that Rogie falls to #3 (i.e. Djokovic, Murray, Rogie, Rafa, or Murray, Djokovic, Rogie, Rafa)?

Federer in 2
09-11-2012, 02:48 AM
Roger's Wimbledon is worth more than Murray's USO because he beat both Novak and Andy. Not a big difference though.
Roger's 3 Masters and other results are of course better than Andy's, but the big difference is Andy's gold medal.

Equal seasons, with Murray possibly edging it by a millimeter.

theseth1119
09-11-2012, 02:54 AM
My bad,4 events, Djokovic is not playing Basel, but Murray is scheduled to play: Beijing, Shanghai, Basel, Paris, and London, that's a lot to ask.

Redeyz
09-11-2012, 02:54 AM
OK Murray won tonight. But Nole has had the best year second to Roger. Its laughable that commentators have tried to make Murray the POY. Apart from Olympics, he had not won anything else until tonight.

TigerTim
09-11-2012, 02:56 AM
people who say roger isn't worthy of no.1 :scratch:

Aussie SF
Dubai 500 WIN
Rotterdam 500 WIN
Indian Wells 1000 WIN
Madrid 1000 WIN
Rome 1000 SF
Paris SF
Wimbledon WIN
Olympics SILVER
Cincinatti 1000 WIN
USO QF

Federer4Everer
09-11-2012, 03:04 AM
a) Points are points so it would be either Novak or Roger at year end
b) But thematically i would agree with Roy Emerson that if one of the top 3 wins WTF then that would be the "conceptual" #1
c) Emotional #1 how can you go against murray, even though, roger's year was also a big emotional moment

guga2120
09-11-2012, 03:11 AM
What are the odds that Rogie falls to #3 (i.e. Djokovic, Murray, Rogie, Rafa, or Murray, Djokovic, Rogie, Rafa)?


Andy will pick up almost 1300 points for the US Open while Federer will lose points. He would most likely need to win Shanghai and Paris or WTF and have Roger take some Berdych style beatings in the fall, and he could easily pass him. The #1 is all up to Novak and what he has left b/c he has no points to defend.

theseth1119
09-11-2012, 03:12 AM
Rogie also had: SF at Doha (had to W/O to Tsonga, bad back), Miami 3rd round, and Halle F.
Rogie also skipped: Monte Carlo and Toronto.
Lastly in 14 events Rogie: 6 titles, 2 finals, 4 SFs, 1 QF, and 1 Third Round.

Vyomsky
09-11-2012, 03:24 AM
So, looking at the poll it seems most people feel that

3 MS wins (by Roger) and high level tennis in the first six months ===== equals Murray's Olympic Gold.

The overall consistency of Djokovic ranks a distant third.

rickcastle
09-11-2012, 03:41 AM
Well, best in numbers, it's Djokovic. But best in context, it has to be either Federer or Murray.

Federer winning a slam after 2 year drought, getting back to no. 1, breaking Pete's record, several masters, solid wins over Nadal, Djokovic and Murray - very good year in context of being an older player all but written off. Murray winning his first ever slam, Olympic gold, bouncing back great from being beaten by Federer at Wimbledon, just really coming out of the shadows - very good year in context of the player who was still trying to prove himself in the big stages.

By the numbers of course, Djokovic is the most consistent but in the context of what a good year 2011 was for him, this is a pretty disappointing year for him overall.

Right now, I give the slight edge to Murray. But I give it back to Federer if he wins the WTF.

Zenjo
09-11-2012, 04:33 AM
At the moment it's so hard to call between 3 guys.

So whoever finishes the year as world #1 will be player of the year.

Tag
09-11-2012, 04:40 AM
djovokic the most consistent in 2012

federer the best player for the last 365 days

the rankings and race reflect this

murray has had a fantastic second half the season, excluding canada masters

the first half, however - he mugged it up terrifically in indian wells, and disgraced tennis during the clay season

ssj100
09-11-2012, 04:41 AM
Being the most consistent isn't the same as winning when it matters. Djokovic only has 3 titles.

Litotes
09-11-2012, 04:45 AM
Djokovic has the best year so far in my book.

Tag
09-11-2012, 04:48 AM
Being the most consistent isn't the same as winning when it matters. Djokovic only has 3 titles.

federer has 5 titles, murray has 3 and nadal has 4. yet nadal has had the worst year of the 4

number of titles doesn't tell the whole story

djokovic has outperformed everyone in the slams

the only reason he isn't number 1 is because federer is rolling the years back and winning masters titles

LinkMage
09-11-2012, 04:48 AM
Difficult to say. All very equal. That said I wouldn't want 2 plates in Slams. :p

BigV
09-11-2012, 04:52 AM
I guess the answer to this question really depends on how much weighting you give the Olympics. IF you view the Olympics as more than or equal to a GS title then it would have to be Murray, Federer, Djokovic, Nadal. Otherwise I would have it down as Federer, Murray, Djokovic, Nadal.

Personally I feel the Olympics is huge... a once every 4 year opportunity to make history and so I view it as equal to a slam. Therefore I would go with option 1 and say Murray has had the best year, but it is very close between him and Roger. I don't think either Nadal or Djokovic have and a special enough year to be considered the 'best' year.

ssj100
09-11-2012, 04:53 AM
federer has 5 titles, murray has 3 and nadal has 4. yet nadal has had the worst year of the 4

number of titles doesn't tell the whole story

djokovic has outperformed everyone in the slams

the only reason he isn't number 1 is because federer is rolling the years back and winning masters titles

Your logic is flawed. Doing well in Slams means nothing - you need to win them. Federer has 6 titles this year, and is number 1 because he won Wimbledon, as well as won Masters titles.

Tag
09-11-2012, 04:56 AM
Your logic is flawed. Doing well in Slams means nothing - you need to win them. Federer has 6 titles this year, and is number 1 because he won Wimbledon, as well as won Masters titles.

actually it does, slams weighting gives the most points

what did i say earlier? djokovic has been the best player this calender year, federer has been the best player the past 365 days

i thought that summed it up quite nicely

murray has not had the best year. as i said, he was atrocious at indian wells, performed to expectation at miami, mugged up the whole clay season and was disgraceful in canada

on top of which, he's defending the lot in the asian swing and has no chance of finishing the year end no1

it's between federer and djokovic, and i give the edge to djokovic

ssj100
09-11-2012, 04:59 AM
actually it does, slams weighting gives the most points

what did i say earlier? djokovic has been the best player this calender year, federer has been the best player the past 365 days

i thought that summed it up quite nicely

murray has not had the best year. as i said, he was atrocious at indian wells, performed to expectation at miami, mugged up the whole clay season and was disgraceful in canada

on top of which, he's defending the lot in the asian swing and has no chance of finishing the year end no1

it's between federer and djokovic, and i give the edge to djokovic

btw, federer has won 5 titles

In my opinion, Federer's year has been better than Joker's. 6 titles, including the most prestigious title of them all and 2 masters titles, and an Olympics Silver Medal. Joker didn't even Medal at the Olympics.

Zelyony
09-11-2012, 05:00 AM
Murray for me.

Tag
09-11-2012, 05:07 AM
In my opinion, Federer's year has been better than Joker's. 6 titles, including the most prestigious title of them all and 2 masters titles, and an Olympics Silver Medal. Joker didn't even Medal at the Olympics.

slams:

federer - 1 W, 2 SF, 1 QF

djokovic - 1 W, 2 RU, 1 SF

djokovic better performance, isn't even up for debate


masters:

federer - 3 W, 1 SF, 1 3R, 2 did not play

djokovic - 2 W, 3 F, 1 SF, 1 QF

federer winning one more masters, but djokovic clearly with the better record and consistency


federer has won a couple of 500s, silver medal, djokovic got 4th. djokovic has more finals, more consistency. the race rankings reflect this, doesn't matter how many titles federer has won


federer has had the more memorable year, getting the 7th wimbledon, getting back to no1, breaking sampras' record

iriraz
09-11-2012, 05:15 AM
Overall Federer has been the most consistent of all of them throughout the year.Djokovic has had the best slam year of all of them while Murray,although he had struggled in the Masters events,had top slam year+Olympics.
So in a way u can make a case for everyone,deppending at what picture u look at(overall consistency throughout the year,slam consistency or slams+olympics put together and nothing else)

Allez
09-11-2012, 05:25 AM
As all 4 have slams the Gold breaks the tie in Murray's favour...

ssj100
09-11-2012, 05:38 AM
slams:

federer - 1 W, 2 SF, 1 QF

djokovic - 1 W, 2 RU, 1 SF

djokovic better performance, isn't even up for debate


masters:

federer - 3 W, 1 SF, 1 3R, 2 did not play

djokovic - 2 W, 3 F, 1 SF, 1 QF

federer winning one more masters, but djokovic clearly with the better record and consistency


federer has won a couple of 500s, silver medal, djokovic got 4th. djokovic has more finals, more consistency. the race rankings reflect this, doesn't matter how many titles federer has won


federer has had the more memorable year, getting the 7th wimbledon, getting back to no1, breaking sampras' record

As I said, Runners Up means nothing. Except maybe at Olympics, where you still get a Medal for your country.

Winning when it matters is what counts. No one is going to remember Joker was a finalist in the US Open 2012 final.

mseles1
09-11-2012, 05:47 AM
Murray. Poor in masters events this year though. Murray deserves it for denying Federer gold, best sporting moment all summer. NYC title sealed it.

brithater
09-11-2012, 06:06 AM
Federer has had best year so far (hes like 57 years old and still winning matches)

Murray has had the most impactful (if thats a word)

Novaks has had the most disapointing (has serious issues defending major titles and cant get it up under pressure)

Nadals was been the most concerning (its Rafa for gods sake! Even if you hate him you still miss the guy)

Delpotro's has been a bit of a downer as well (get it together and stop throwing away the first set as a warm up!)

tennis2tennis
09-11-2012, 06:08 AM
Federer has had best year so far (hes like 57 years old and still winning matches)

Murray has had the most impactful (if thats a word)

Novaks has had the most disapointing (has serious issues defending major titles and cant get it up under pressure)

Nadals was been the most concerning (its Rafa for gods sake! Even if you hate him you still miss the guy)

Delpotro's has been a bit of a downer as well (get it together and stop throwing away the first set as a warm up!)
I second that