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I'm a Fedtard and I miss Nadal. Anyone else?

fsoica
09-10-2012, 07:50 PM
I used to love seeing Rafa losing (I think this will happen also in the future, if Rafa's body will let him win big time again). The normal attitude for a Fedtard, right?

But I must admit I already miss Nadal and it's only been 3 months or so...

This thread is for the guys who are feeling the same, and I mean, not loving Rafa in the past but already missing his energy on the tour...I think it would be similar for any Fed-hater when Roger will retire, right?

Pls. express your feelings about the issue here...

Mountaindewslave
09-10-2012, 07:51 PM
love NADAL and I like Federer too... Nadal is my favorite player so obviously I miss him a lot. tour is missing a sort of energy with him around

abraxas21
09-10-2012, 07:51 PM
i miss nadal losing. that's all.

Certinfy
09-10-2012, 07:51 PM
No where near a fan of Rafa but I miss him too. I enjoy watching him play.

Federer in 2
09-10-2012, 07:52 PM
Same here. Order needs to be resorted in the top 2.

PedroMarquess
09-10-2012, 07:52 PM
The tour isn't the same without Nadal, I miss him beating Murray in the semis.

caisenma
09-10-2012, 07:53 PM
on a personal level, no.

do i think he's a great player? yes, no question. but i get no joy watching him play. his style just does absolutely nothing for me, entertainment wise.

now, do i think the sport misses him? of course. he's a huge part of the tour, and tennis benefits by having a player of his calibre.

Gagsquet
09-10-2012, 07:54 PM
You just like bacon. Pretty normal.

GOAT = Fed
09-10-2012, 07:58 PM
Fed tard reporting in. Agree with OP.

Saberq
09-10-2012, 07:59 PM
Same here. Order needs to be resorted in the top 2.

you are right.Nadal needs to get back at number 2 and the Swiss at number 3 where he belongs

GSMnadal
09-10-2012, 08:01 PM
Tennis needs their top guys for the love-hate balance to be perfect :shrug:

Johnny Groove
09-10-2012, 08:03 PM
The ATP w/o Nadal is like the Beatles w/o John Lennon, Aerosmith w/o Steven Tyler, D12 w/o Eminem, Nirvana w/o Kurt Cobain.

luie
09-10-2012, 08:06 PM
Yea Murray n Novak don't have the same energy as nadull. No one to hate on is boring.

EddieNero
09-10-2012, 08:09 PM
Hatred makes our lifes more complete, that's why.

fsoica
09-10-2012, 08:09 PM
The ATP w/o Nadal is like the Beatles w/o John Lennon, Aerosmith w/o Steven Tyler, D12 w/o Eminem, Nirvana w/o Kurt Cobain.

could you make a parallel statement regarding Fed?

Radar
09-10-2012, 08:10 PM
Yeah, I miss him.

TigerTim
09-10-2012, 08:10 PM
No. Nadal can stay away till AO and then I would be happy to see him return. If he could miss the clay season and give people a chance that would be nice :)

Whiznot
09-10-2012, 08:14 PM
The tour needs someone like Rosol or Tokyo Murray or WTF Federer to kick Nadal's sorry butt on a weekly basis. Good for the game!

Paylu2007
09-10-2012, 08:17 PM
NO.

I just wish Djokovic had the same playstyle he had in 2007; he was enjoyable to watch... now it's all about grindfest

abraxas21
09-10-2012, 08:20 PM
You just like bacon. Pretty normal.

i dont :shrug:

Rogieva
09-10-2012, 08:31 PM
I miss him too, this faker Murray acting like he is worthy top be within the top 3. There is no top 4, only top 3 with Murray clinging on.

BrazilTBfan
09-10-2012, 08:32 PM
You're not the only one...

Ash86
09-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Don't worry Fed fans - he just posted this photo on his facebook saying he's "working really hard to be ready as soon as possible" - he'll be back on tour for you to hate soon enough. :wavey:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185139_10151100998961026_929460447_n.jpg

Sadly, as a Nadal fan I do think he's forgotten what the sport is - every other photo seems to be a kind of ballet pose. Plus he looks like he's put on weight - stay away from all that island food! :mad:

Julián Santiago
09-10-2012, 08:46 PM
Me too.

By the way, I never hated Nadal, I felt anger with him a lot of times, but he`s a true champion. And the Fedal rivalry is very important for the game

:wavey:

EliSter
09-10-2012, 08:46 PM
I miss him preventing Mugray reaching GS finals and spanking Olderer and his ego.

Looner
09-10-2012, 08:48 PM
I used to love seeing Rafa losing (I think this will happen also in the future, if Rafa's body will let him win big time again). The normal attitude for a Fedtard, right?

But I must admit I already miss Nadal and it's only been 3 months or so...

This thread is for the guys who are feeling the same, and I mean, not loving Rafa in the past but already missing his energy on the tour...I think it would be similar for any Fed-hater when Roger will retire, right?

Pls. express your feelings about the issue here...

Same here. Order needs to be resorted in the top 2.

Fed tard reporting in. Agree with OP.

Yeah, I miss him.

You're not the only one...

Me too.

By the way, I never hated Nadal, I felt anger with him a lot of times, but he`s a true champion. And the Fedal rivalry is very important for the game

:wavey:

What are you people? Masochists? :crazy::scratch:

Julián Santiago
09-10-2012, 08:50 PM
Same here. Order needs to be resorted in the top 2.

:worship:

The tour isn't the same without Nadal, I miss him beating Murray in the semis.


:haha:

Backhand_Maestro
09-10-2012, 08:52 PM
He's kind of opened the tour up but I don't miss him and I liked him.

Saves getting wooped by Djoker and he had the last laugh.

r3d_d3v1l_
09-10-2012, 08:56 PM
I really miss him struggling on hard and indoor season. :sad:

Nadal, y u no injured on clay season?

The Fearhand
09-10-2012, 09:05 PM
Many of you are not ''tards''. Just fans. Liking or disliking a player doesn't make you a tard.

Tards are people who don't respect the game, are only in love with a certain person and who have a hidden agenda, spew hate to make up for their own sad existence. And they will go to any lengths to please their inner ego. They don't care about making a fool of themselves because they have no shame. That's why it's best to not argue with one because it's one battle you can't win.

JurajCrane
09-10-2012, 09:06 PM
The ATP w/o Nadal is like the Beatles w/o John Lennon, Aerosmith w/o Steven Tyler, D12 w/o Eminem, Nirvana w/o Kurt Cobain.

This suits more on Federer, to be honest.

zdravkelja
09-10-2012, 09:13 PM
I like them both and tennis is nothing without either of them :sad:

TheShowMustGoOn
09-10-2012, 09:22 PM
In my eyes he's by far the most exciting thing in mens tennis and without him tournaments are half as enjoyable.

GSMnadal
09-10-2012, 09:24 PM
The final we have to witness right now doesn't help at all :o

This could've been Rafa out there

DJ Soup
09-10-2012, 09:31 PM
Nope. I like tennis as it is right now.

niff
09-10-2012, 09:36 PM
Hatred makes our lifes more complete, that's why.
True. I don't miss him yet though.

SerialKillerToBe
09-10-2012, 09:46 PM
no, and you're not a true fedtard then

GSMnadal
09-10-2012, 09:48 PM
no, and you're not a true fedtard then

The job of a true fedtard consists for 95% of hating Nadal, so it's quite understandable

SerialKillerToBe
09-10-2012, 09:49 PM
The final we have to witness right now doesn't help at all :o

This could've been Rafa out there

the last time Rafa played in moderate wind he got his ass handed to him on a platter.

Orka_n
09-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Don't miss Nadal yet because his behavior on-court more annoys than inspires me to be honest. But I might start to miss him when he's retired.

DJ Soup
09-10-2012, 11:09 PM
Don't miss Nadal yet because his behavior on-court more annoys than inspires me to be honest. But I might start to miss him when he's retired.

ditto

Jaz
09-10-2012, 11:13 PM
Agreed with the OP.

Nadal reminds me of Federer, they both work off each other in terms of popularity. It's not the same tbh.

Kiedis
09-10-2012, 11:34 PM
If you like a sport, you want to see the top players competing. Obviously you have your favorites, but you want to see your champion defeating other legends.

If you don't, then is when you are a tard and you don't like sport really. OP is not a tard, is a fan, but many others here are big tards although they not considered themselves as such.

Smoke944
09-10-2012, 11:40 PM
I am missing Nadal tbh and I'm far from a fan. It's just funny seeing Murray push his way to a grand slam title. Never thought I would be wishing to see Nadal taking Murray's hack slices and easily jerking him around the court with his forehand for three easy sets.

RinkaWaw
09-10-2012, 11:47 PM
I hate him and of course I'm a fan.

78692
09-10-2012, 11:48 PM
Lol I was just thinking about this and now saw the thread. Yeah I seem to be missing Rafa as well oddly enough as a Roger fan. Maybe cuz they have the most amazing matches against each other and it's the match up that makes me most nervous and excited .. Lol :)

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Mountaindewslave
09-11-2012, 12:08 AM
the last time Rafa played in moderate wind he got his ass handed to him on a platter.

you clearly are not very familiar with Nadal in wind. he did play a horrible match against Federer a while ago in INSANE storm conditions BUTTT he actually adjusts moderately well usually. i.e. the extremely windy Indian Wells match he played with Murray a few years back and beat him like 6-1 6-0 or whatever it was

Ash86
09-11-2012, 12:12 AM
you clearly are not very familiar with Nadal in wind. he did play a horrible match against Federer a while ago in INSANE storm conditions BUTTT he actually adjusts moderately well usually. i.e. the extremely windy Indian Wells match he played with Murray a few years back and beat him like 6-1 6-0 or whatever it was

Exactly - that was an unusual wet match. Generally Nadal's a very very good wind player. Movement is most important and he's great at that.

And yes, today's terrible match is only making the absence of Nadal more acute. Think of the last 3 Nadal/Djokovic HC slam finals - Aus Open 2012; US Open 2011; US Open 2010 - all epic matches in terms of shotmaking and defence. Sure the conditions are bad today but Djokovic/Murray don't bring out the best in each others game - too similar. Least favourite of the top 4 match-ups.

Dmitry Verdasco
09-11-2012, 12:31 AM
Can Nadal fans that also miss Nadal post here? :awww:

r3d_d3v1l_
09-11-2012, 12:50 AM
Sure the conditions are bad today but Djokovic/Murray don't bring out the best in each others game - too similar. Least favourite of the top 4 match-ups.

Go watch their semifinal in Rome. A lot better than the so called amazing US Open 2011 final.

Topspindoctor
09-11-2012, 01:06 AM
The tour sucks without Nadal. That is all.

Ash86
09-11-2012, 01:13 AM
Go watch their semifinal in Rome. A lot better than the so called amazing US Open 2011 final.

That was one match. And the US Open 2011 final isn't my favourite - quite scrappy really. Best Nadal/Djokovic matches were Madrid 2009 and Queens 2008 - very close but great quality. My favourite match up is actually Nadal/Murray - it may be onesided in results but the matches themselves have usually always been great. Great Wimbledon semis and WTF 2010 SF.

All about how games match up - to me generally Andy/Novak the worst. Can still be good at times but not as interesting as the other matchups.

Ichiban1920
09-11-2012, 01:20 AM
The tour sucks without Nadal. That is all.


Nadull is the worst thing to happen to tennis. The longer he stays out of the game the better it is for tennis. If only Nadull's brainless Nadull-tard fans can leave with him, the better it'll be for tennis discourse.

rickcastle
09-11-2012, 01:24 AM
No. I think I would miss anyone in the top 5 if they were gone for a long time, except for Nadal.

Edda
09-11-2012, 01:38 AM
I like both Roger and Rafa, and yes, I do miss Rafa.

DjokerFan3
09-11-2012, 02:31 AM
Yes I miss Rafa, it's just not the same without him competing.

AntiTennis
09-11-2012, 02:32 AM
same :awww:, is not the same without him, also Ferrer being #4 seed is just crap.

BigJohn
09-11-2012, 02:43 AM
No major difference in this post Wimbledon context of the season to be honest...

Mistik
09-11-2012, 02:47 AM
Yes, we miss nadal... And will miss Federer...

So much pleasure in all Noles matches with those two...

Ok, Murrays here now, at last. But, nevertheless...

I will remember these times.

Mountaindewslave
09-11-2012, 02:49 AM
No major difference in this post Wimbledon context of the season to be honest...

slightly different at US Open but I agree you're right in general

Federer4Everer
09-11-2012, 02:53 AM
I have to say I do not really miss nadal. sorry about that. The grimacing, the insisting on waiting for the other player to walk onto court first and then he runs like a bull onto court, the excessive ball bouncing, the whacko insistence on moving to a 2 year ranking system, the false humbleness... he is a great player but personally i do not find that i miss him.

guga2120
09-11-2012, 03:05 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185139_10151100998961026_929460447_n.jpg


King Rafa. Its not the same without him.

BigJohn
09-11-2012, 03:05 AM
slightly different at US Open but I agree you're right in general

Glad to see you are not a blind hater. :)

BigJohn
09-11-2012, 03:08 AM
So many people seem to have a Spanish male public self-fingerbanging fetish and are now experiencing withdrawal symptoms...

Tag
09-11-2012, 04:42 AM
no, i'm quite enjoying his vacation from the game

this us open was certainly more enjoyable than the past few years, even if arthur ashe court now resembles blue clay :o

i'm expecting nadal back at the AO. he'll get smashed at Year End Championships, no reason to turn up, unless he really wants to spend time in london

nick the greek
09-11-2012, 04:50 AM
Of course and I hope Rafito will return stronger than ever.

Topspindoctor
09-11-2012, 04:53 AM
Tennis needs Nadal. He is bigger than the sport. The last 2 slam finals only proved it. :o

BroTree123
09-11-2012, 04:54 AM
It's too late. The damage has already been done :o

Tomatoes11
09-11-2012, 04:56 AM
Hell no. The last thing we need is another grinder in the top 4.

I think speeding up the courts and hoping Del Potro or Berdych raising their levels would be much better.

Topspindoctor
09-11-2012, 04:58 AM
Hell no. The last thing we need is another grinder in the top 4.

I think speeding up the courts and hoping Del Potro or Berdych raising their levels would be much better.

Too bad both of those clowns have no levels to raise. Comparing Nadal against those 2 jesters is like comparing a nerd with level 100 sorcerer in a role playing game to a jock with a level 3 druid.

moon language
09-11-2012, 05:00 AM
It's always weird when one of the top players goes out for a while, or retires. I was no fan of Roddick, but I'm already feeling a little bummed about the idea that he'll never be in the mix again. I feel like a lot of the younger players have more generic games and even though I thought Roddick's game was unpleasant to watch most of the time (as many say about Nadal) at least they both have really obvious strengths/weapons and unique styles.

cmoss
09-11-2012, 05:12 AM
Like a dying star,Nadal will release his last drops of energy and win 4 slam next year.:bolt:

martinatreue
09-11-2012, 05:20 AM
I really don't like watching his game at all so I don't miss him at all to be honest, but I do wish him good health and don't hate the guy.

Just like heaven
09-11-2012, 11:20 AM
King Rafa. Its not the same without him.

I agree. :sad:

superslam77
09-11-2012, 12:47 PM
no waaaay! :cool:

first roddick then him :wavey:

vavavoom
09-11-2012, 12:54 PM
The tour isn't the same without Nadal, I miss him beating Murray in the semis.

This.

Now Murray is fluking his way to all these titles and we can do nothing but

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6141/5985358306_86f15a0d2e.jpg

ufiors
09-11-2012, 01:19 PM
I miss him too. Come back Rafael: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB_HuoMxr8o&feature=player_embedded

rafa_maniac
09-11-2012, 01:28 PM
Well of course I miss him terribly. But in the spirit of the thread, I'm going to miss Fed a hell of a lot too when he retires, as much as I enjoy cheering against him at times.

MatchFederer
09-11-2012, 01:32 PM
To be honest, I had barely noticed he wasn't here. Tournaments will be even more speculative if he does enter, but it's just a compliment to Federer, Djokovic and Murray, that they are great enough to ensure that a Slam event can still be a blockbuster event.

monmororin
09-11-2012, 01:40 PM
I used to love seeing Rafa losing (I think this will happen also in the future, if Rafa's body will let him win big time again). The normal attitude for a Fedtard, right?

But I must admit I already miss Nadal and it's only been 3 months or so...

This thread is for the guys who are feeling the same, and I mean, not loving Rafa in the past but already missing his energy on the tour...I think it would be similar for any Fed-hater when Roger will retire, right?

Pls. express your feelings about the issue here...

:rocker2:

Yeah, i miss Rafa.:sobbing:

GOAT = Fed
09-11-2012, 01:43 PM
Dat feel of seeing someone close to victory against Nadal in a GS but Nadal still comes storming back.

andylovesaustin
09-11-2012, 01:51 PM
I miss Rafa because I think he brings a lot of intesity to tennis.

And really the guy is how old---25? It would be a shame if his prime and perhaps career were over due to chronic injuries.

GOAT = Fed
09-11-2012, 01:55 PM
I miss Rafa because I think he brings a lot of intesity to tennis.

And really the guy is how old---25? It would be a shame if his prime and perhaps career were over due to chronic injuries.

He's 26 but your point still stands.

It's amazing how much he has achieved at 26, especially compared to other guys of similar age such as Murray and Djokovic.

ballbasher101
09-11-2012, 02:04 PM
Stay away Rafa. I don't miss him. The more Nadal stays away the more chances Murray has to adding to his major. No Nadal= High chance of Murray winning a major. I like that equation :D.

cmoss
09-11-2012, 02:37 PM
Stay away Rafa. I don't miss him. The more Nadal stays away the more chances Murray has to adding to his major. No Nadal= High chance of Murray winning a major. I like that equation :D.

He should deal with it rather than hoping Nadal to disappear.:o

Murray has to pass this ultimate test : defeating Nadal - his nightmare,at a GS.He must do this to prove he's a true worthy member of the absolute elite club.

clandis
09-11-2012, 02:37 PM
Not at all :o

Looner
09-11-2012, 02:38 PM
He should deal with it rather than hoping Nadal to disappear.:o

Murray has to pass this ultimate test : defeating Nadal - his nightmare,at a GS.He must do this to prove he's a true worthy member of the absolute elite club.

I'd argue defeating the GOAT in a GS is a bigger nightmare for him. He's beaten the cheater 2 times already.

Sophocles
09-11-2012, 02:38 PM
I miss seeing him lose, if that's what you mean.

rocketassist
09-11-2012, 02:39 PM
He should deal with it rather than hoping Nadal to disappear.:o

Murray has to pass this ultimate test : defeating Nadal - his nightmare,at a GS.He must do this to prove he's a true worthy member of the absolute elite club.

Already been done- twice.

Fed was too good both times he did so.

abraxas21
09-11-2012, 02:41 PM
I miss seeing him lose, if that's what you mean.

this

watching nadal lose is in many ocassions even more enjoyable than watching the players you like winning.

hisham70
09-11-2012, 02:46 PM
I miss Nadal, but I love to see his early exit, being beaten by unseeded players like Rosol in round 2. :D

Corey Feldman
09-11-2012, 02:46 PM
No

couldnt care less tbh.

Sophocles
09-11-2012, 03:03 PM
this

watching nadal lose is in many ocassions even more enjoyable than watching the players you like winning.

I have enormously fond memories of Wimbledon 2005, A.O. 2007 & 2008, U.S.O. 2009, and of course the granddaddy of them all, R.G. 2009.

tripwires
09-11-2012, 03:06 PM
To be honest, I had barely noticed he wasn't here. Tournaments will be even more speculative if he does enter, but it's just a compliment to Federer, Djokovic and Murray, that they are great enough to ensure that a Slam event can still be a blockbuster event.

I honestly forgot about him too until the commentators started banging on about him.

And no, I don't miss him. :)

I miss seeing him lose, if that's what you mean.

I have enormously fond memories of Wimbledon 2005, A.O. 2007 & 2008, U.S.O. 2009, and of course the granddaddy of them all, R.G. 2009.

:hearts:

Corey Feldman
09-11-2012, 03:07 PM
noticed the true colours of some of his bitter fangirls through this

ppl i've known here for 5 years

Looner
09-11-2012, 03:13 PM
I have enormously fond memories of Wimbledon 2005, A.O. 2007 & 2008, U.S.O. 2009, and of course the granddaddy of them all, R.G. 2009.

:worship:. What a tournament RG 2009 turned out to be. One of the best in recent memory (may be excluding the final).

Johnny Groove
09-11-2012, 03:32 PM
Haters still hating even when the guy isn't even playing :rolleyes:

How pathetic.

duarte_a
09-11-2012, 03:39 PM
I have enormously fond memories of Wimbledon 2005, A.O. 2007 & 2008, U.S.O. 2009, and of course the granddaddy of them all, R.G. 2009.

Yes I have fond memories from those tournaments too. On the other hand I have horrible nightmares of Wimbledon 2008 and 2010, AO 2009 and USO 2010.

It's better if nadal is not playing. That way we can avoid watching a player win tournaments he should never even reach the finals in first place. Even though AO and USO were flukes, obviously, it can happen again.

Hope nadal takes his golf and fishing and turns them into a career.

hisham70
09-11-2012, 04:04 PM
When he's losing, he whined a lot, and that's amusing.

Sophocles
09-11-2012, 04:05 PM
Haters still hating even when the guy isn't even playing :rolleyes:

How pathetic.

Actually there's a serious point behind it. When players have beaten Nadal in big matches it is generally because they have played an entertaining attacking game at a stratospheric level. That is after all the only way to win. So Nadal losing means you've seen somebody playing extraordinary tennis.

kafemotor
09-11-2012, 04:41 PM
^^^
Thanks Sophocles. Always on the metatext :)
Love it

TBkeeper
09-11-2012, 04:44 PM
actualy i miss Nadal and his unique style :shrug: when i think 'bout it

TigerTim
09-11-2012, 04:46 PM
Actually there's a serious point behind it. When players have beaten Nadal in big matches it is generally because they have played an entertaining attacking game at a stratospheric level. That is after all the only way to win. So Nadal losing means you've seen somebody playing extraordinary tennis.

Agreed. Murray, Tsonga, Soderling, Rosol even Ferrer produced their best ever performances to best 'dull

Jverweij
09-11-2012, 05:16 PM
no not really. I wish him all the best though and hope he makes a good recovery, but just for him, not for me.

IOFH
09-11-2012, 05:19 PM
I must admit watching Nadal taken from side to side before watching a winner go past him, raise his arms to the side, roll his head like he can't believe it and look at his box in anger is an incredibly pleasurable thing to witness.

nastoff
09-11-2012, 05:47 PM
The former top 3 players have been such an integral part of the revival of interest in tennis in recent years that if one goes missing the link is broken. So the same would happen if Federer or Djokovic got sidelined. After all, until yesterday they'd won 29 of the last 30 grand slams.
So your Nadal withdrawal symptoms are perfectly normal.

atennisfan
09-11-2012, 05:50 PM
I think tennis miss a fierce competitor.

But I definitely do not miss his gamesmanships on court.

Corey Feldman
09-11-2012, 05:55 PM
if missing him lose counts

then yes, i miss that

that patented press conf quote :hearts: "I dont want to talk no? sound like excuse"

GOATsol
09-11-2012, 06:03 PM
Rosol defeating Nadal gave me so much life--I will not lie.

Corey Feldman
09-11-2012, 06:07 PM
Jolan Gago, RFK and Keidis can sukit

GOATsol
09-11-2012, 06:08 PM
Is Feldman a fed fan or Mugray fan?

Sophocles
09-11-2012, 06:09 PM
that patented press conf quote :hearts: "I dont want to talk no? sound like excuse"

:haha:

Corey Feldman
09-11-2012, 06:12 PM
Is Feldman a fed fan or Mugray fan?Both of them my boys

Sapeod
09-11-2012, 06:15 PM
I don't understand how anyone can miss him. After Rosol sent him packing, tennis has been far better. His game is ugly, he's a cheater and he's just generally not good to have on tour. Of course, his injury (it's actually real this time, no way!!) is a bit of a shame. That said, I don't miss him. Tennis has been better with him on a break.

ballbasher101
09-11-2012, 06:24 PM
I don't understand how anyone can miss him. After Rosol sent him packing, tennis has been far better. His game is ugly, he's a cheater and he's just generally not good to have on tour. Of course, his injury (it's actually real this time, no way!!) is a bit of a shame. That said, I don't miss him. Tennis has been better with him on a break.


Well said indeed. Tennis is alive again.

The Fearhand
09-11-2012, 06:30 PM
Both of them my boys

So you're into DP.

NID
09-11-2012, 06:32 PM
Is Feldman a fed fan or Mugray fan?

Show some respect to Federer, he is due some capitalization.

OT, perfectly normal to miss a top player. I dread the time when any of the current top 4 will retire.

Kiedis
09-11-2012, 06:37 PM
So you're into DP.

He is a greedy boy.

ballbasher101
09-11-2012, 06:38 PM
He should deal with it rather than hoping Nadal to disappear.:o

Murray has to pass this ultimate test : defeating Nadal - his nightmare,at a GS.He must do this to prove he's a true worthy member of the absolute elite club.


He is a true worthy champion. It is not Murray's fault that Nadal was actually injured for real this time. You beat who is put in front of you. He beat a man who has five majors in the final so to say he is not worthy is laughable. Murray has beaten Nadal in a slam before. From here onwards Murray will crush Nadal at the OZ open and the US opon, mark my words. At the French Nadal can't be beat but on hard Murray has the edge. On grass it is 50-50. Murray has delivered big time :worship:. still can't believe it.

The Fearhand
09-11-2012, 06:43 PM
He is a greedy boy.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

guga2120
09-11-2012, 06:55 PM
He is a true worthy champion. It is not Murray's fault that Nadal was actually injured for real this time. You beat who is put in front of you. He beat a man who has five majors in the final so to say he is not worthy is laughable. Murray has beaten Nadal in a slam before. From here onwards Murray will crush Nadal at the OZ open and the US opon, mark my words. At the French Nadal can't be beat but on hard Murray has the edge. On grass it is 50-50. Murray has delivered big time :worship:. still can't believe it.

I love Andy and he is the better hard court player, but its not 50/50 on grass. If Rafa is fit, its cleary in his hands. Of the the three Rafa is the hardest for him to deal with on any surface. The record shows that.


:worship:. What a tournament RG 2009 turned out to be. One of the best in recent memory (may be excluding the final).

:lol:
Federer going life and death with Haas and Acasuso while the king was out. Something had to fall his way with that draw, and Rafa not being there for him to fluke a title.

MaxPower
09-11-2012, 07:28 PM
I'm not a fedtard but I miss piggyroast :( Every Nadalmatch is a fresh chance for some prime roasting, a la Soderling 2009 or Rosol 2012

Roasting Ferrer just isn't the same. That animal is a bit older, the meat isn't as tender but more stringy

Looner
09-11-2012, 09:46 PM
I'm not a fedtard but I miss piggyroast :( Every Nadalmatch is a fresh chance for some prime roasting, a la Soderling 2009 or Rosol 2012

Roasting Ferrer just isn't the same. That animal is a bit older, the meat isn't as tender but more stringy

:haha:. Welcome to my sig.

TigerTim
09-11-2012, 09:48 PM
I'm not a fedtard but I miss piggyroast :( Every Nadalmatch is a fresh chance for some prime roasting, a la Soderling 2009 or Rosol 2012

Roasting Ferrer just isn't the same. That animal is a bit older, the meat isn't as tender but more stringy

:spit:

you are right. But I have tasted piggyroast and the meat is pretty tough if you ask me :shrug:

vavavoom
09-14-2012, 01:09 PM
I don't understand how anyone can miss him. After Rosol sent him packing, tennis has been far better. His game is ugly, he's a cheater and he's just generally not good to have on tour. Of course, his injury (it's actually real this time, no way!!) is a bit of a shame. That said, I don't miss him. Tennis has been better with him on a break.

Coming from a Murray fan :haha:

Chris Kuerten
09-14-2012, 01:11 PM
Stockholm syndrome

Roy Emerson
09-14-2012, 02:09 PM
I'm sure the Nadal fans miss him a lot.

The Djokovic fans as well. Without Nadal in the slam finals outside of clay how is Djokovic going to win a slam?:shrug:

If next year Djokovic meets Murray or Federer in slam finals outside of clay and not Nadal like at Wimbledon 2011, USO 2011 and AO 2012, then it will be harder for Djokovic to win a slam.

Roger the Dodger
09-14-2012, 08:23 PM
The ATP w/o Nadal is like the Beatles w/o John Lennon, Aerosmith w/o Steven Tyler, D12 w/o Eminem, Nirvana w/o Kurt Cobain.

Nah - Nadal's not a frontman type of personality.

Greatness
09-14-2012, 09:52 PM
I miss Rafa.

Hopefully he will be back to owning Federer and Murray in the slams soon enough.

Corey Feldman
09-14-2012, 10:44 PM
I miss Rafa.

Hopefully he will be back to owning Federer and Murray in the slams soon enough.Yah, need someone else around to do what Djoky cant eh

now i know why Nole Fan misses him too lolz

GOATsol
09-14-2012, 10:59 PM
Watching Nadal lose is always super fun and brightens up my day, but watching him win Roland Garros every year isn't too fun so I prefer it like this.

EliSter
09-14-2012, 11:52 PM
Yah, need someone else around to do what Djoky cant eh

now i know why Nole Fan misses him too lolz

Nole is 1-1 on slams with both this year :lol: Thats not owning. But Nadul being back Olderer and Mandy can kiss GS goodbye.

Cereal Killer
09-15-2012, 12:06 AM
Nole is 1-1 on slams with both this year :lol: Thats not owning. But Nadul being back Olderer and Mandy can kiss GS goodbye.

Nadal won't be in Murray's half, so it's really only Fed who has to be scared. Nadal will probably end up in Djoko's half most of the time anyway, as Fedal finals is what people live for apparently.

Nole fan
09-15-2012, 01:01 AM
I'm sure the Nadal fans miss him a lot.

The Djokovic fans as well. Without Nadal in the slam finals outside of clay how is Djokovic going to win a slam?:shrug:

If next year Djokovic meets Murray or Federer in slam finals outside of clay and not Nadal like at Wimbledon 2011, USO 2011 and AO 2012, then it will be harder for Djokovic to win a slam.

You're posting a lot of bullshit lately. Difficult to distinguish the trolls these days.
Djokovic had to beat Federer and Murray to win his slams as well, not only Nadal. You look stupid saying those things. :rolleyes:

Plus Nadal is a lot tougher to beat than federer or murray. :wavey:

juan77
09-15-2012, 03:04 AM
Don't miss that cheating, tantrum throwing butt picker at all.

atennisfan
09-15-2012, 04:38 AM
I miss Rafa.

Hopefully he will be back to owning Federer and Murray in the slams soon enough.

Of course you do. Because that's the only way Djoker can win multiple slams like in 2012 right?

magnoliaewan
09-15-2012, 06:11 AM
No. I'm not a fan so I couldn't care less. Right now all I miss is Federer, can't wait to see him play again.

iramlatif
09-15-2012, 06:33 AM
i miss him too! tennis isn't all that complete without him! ;)

Nole fan
09-15-2012, 12:51 PM
The truth is that if Federer retired now, I couldn't care less. And I sure wouldn't miss him. I'm tired of seeing his mug face everywhere.
Now Nadal is a different matter. He brought something to the game that cannot be replaced. I can't wait for him to get back healthy and pick up the rivalry with Nole where they left it. That was the most interesting thing about current tennis.

Fed fordawin
09-15-2012, 12:53 PM
I miss him getting slaughtered in the post wimbledon part of the season...
But he can rest from Doha to Roland Garros, I wouldn't mind that.

Roy Emerson
09-15-2012, 12:59 PM
Nadal will only be a factor on clay from now on. He has not won a title off clay in two years. His career is winding down and he will end up like he started, as a claycourter. Similar to ASV who started her career by only winning titles on clay then during her prime won titles on other surfaces and by the end of her career she would only win on clay. Nadal has struggled to win off clay since 2010 and the next phase of his career after he comes back from a long sabbatical will be to struggle to actually reach finals off clay. I wouldn't be surprised if he only reaches finals on clay from now on.

Ash86
09-15-2012, 01:10 PM
Nadal will only be a factor on clay from now on. He has not won a title off clay in two years. His career is winding down and he will end up like he started, as a claycourter. Similar to ASV who started her career by only winning titles on clay then during her prime won titles on other surfaces and by the end of her career she would only win on clay. Nadal has struggled to win off clay since 2010 and the next phase of his career after he comes back from a long sabbatical will be to struggle to actually reach finals off clay. I wouldn't be surprised if he only reaches finals on clay from now on.

Idiotic statement. His results off-clay this year - Doha SF; Aus Open F (could have won); IW SF; Miami SF; Halle R3 (always loses early in grass warm-up); Wimbledon R2. So basically it was grass that he was poor on - up against an on-fire opponent and also hasn't returned on court since.

If he's getting to SFs and Fs that means he's still got a chance. You make it sound like he's losing easily to Tsonga, Del Po, Berdych etc. on hard courts. He's the weakest of the top 4 on hardcourts but that's it. He's still second best on grass probably. Too much hyperbole. Let's wait till the end of the 2013 season to totally write him off.

Roy Emerson
09-15-2012, 01:16 PM
I'm not writing him off on clay. Outside of clay he will continue to decline faster than on clay. Clay is still his safe haven but at the AO, Wimbledon and the USO it will be very hard for him to reach finals from now on. He will be 27 which is very old for a grinder.

This article is pretty much saying that Nadal will only be a factor at RG and Federer only at Wimbledon.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/roger-federer-rafael-nadal-win-u-s-open-hard-court-flushin-unforgiving-article-1.1153878

Consider the guard officially changed. Novak Djokovic will now carry the day for the next one or two years on these unforgiving pavements, along with occasional guest appearances by Andy Murray, Juan Martin Del Potro and Berdych. Nadal will win two or three more French Opens. Federer will be a threat at Wimbledon, nowhere else. Andy Roddick has missed his time slot again.
This is not to disparage the two most brilliant players in the history of the sport. But despite Federer’s resilience and Nadal’s persistence, this pair now requires organic surfaces and cooler temperatures.

Bare in mind this article is from before the USO final. Djokovic might carry the day for the next one or two years on these unforgiving pavements as they said but he already lost a third final at the USO. I suppose he might still win one more USO. Like Agassi who won two USO and lost four finals there.

Ash86
09-15-2012, 01:31 PM
I'm not writing him off on clay. Outside of clay he will continue to decline faster than on clay. Clay is still his safe haven but at the AO, Wimbledon and the USO it will be very hard for him to reach finals from now on. He will be 27 which is very old for a grinder.

Very simplistic to call him a grinder. He hasn't won 11 slams, including 2 Wimbledons and a US Open by just grinding. The point is what has his form been off clay this season - it's been fine. He's not the favourite to win HC slams but he'll have a shot - not out of it by any means. Still much more likely than Del Po, Tsonga etc. to win the big HC titles which means he's not done. No doubt in my mind he'll win more non-clay titles before he retires.

And who cares what the NY Daily News says. In the Aus Open THIS YEAR he played incredibly well to beat Berdych and Federer and nearly beat Djokovic who BOTH played great - if he recovers well from the injury there's no reason why he can't play well again.

Roy Emerson
09-15-2012, 01:46 PM
The article is actually calling Nadal as one of "the two most brilliant players in the history of the sport.":eek: Talk about flattering.

Roamed
09-15-2012, 01:50 PM
Write Federer and Nadal off at your peril.

Marcoo
09-15-2012, 01:57 PM
I love Federer and Nadal and i miss their great matches. I wish Nadal all the best and i hope we'll still see their great matches :D

Greatness
09-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Of course you do. Because that's the only way Djoker can win multiple slams like in 2012 right?

Sure, because Novak never defeated Federer and Murray on his way to winning a slam. lol

TigerTim
09-16-2012, 12:00 AM
Mr Emerson.

While I agree with the article clearly the writer is a novice claiming that carpet remains on tour and is why Federer does so well indoors.

TigerTim
09-16-2012, 12:02 AM
The truth is that if Federer retired now, I couldn't care less. And I sure wouldn't miss him. I'm tired of seeing his mug face everywhere.
Now Nadal is a different matter. He brought something to the game that cannot be replaced. I can't wait for him to get back healthy and pick up the rivalry with Nole where they left it. That was the most interesting thing about current tennis.

Translation:

My favourite often beats Nadal so he's okay
My favourite does not always beat federer so I will be happy when he retires.

Looner
09-16-2012, 12:03 AM
The truth is that if Federer retired now, I couldn't care less. And I sure wouldn't miss him. I'm tired of seeing his mug face everywhere.
Now Nadal is a different matter. He brought something to the game that cannot be replaced. I can't wait for him to get back healthy and pick up the rivalry with Nole where they left it. That was the most interesting thing about current tennis.

:haha: She's finally snapped. Look at what the GOAT did to this poor Faker fan :awww:.

Corey Feldman
09-16-2012, 12:07 AM
:lol::rocker2:

Fed breaks them all in the end

and i always WIN

TigerTim
09-16-2012, 12:21 AM
Roland Garros? I think not Feldman.

rocketassist
09-16-2012, 12:26 AM
Noledal rivalry wasn't interesting. Both of them faced off in 4 games of Pong/slam finals in a row and the only great tennis was the USO third set.

Djokovic-Federer is much better tennis.

Sanya
09-16-2012, 12:29 AM
Noledal rivalry wasn't interesting. Both of them faced off in 4 games of Pong/slam finals in a row and the only great tennis was the USO third set.

Djokovic-Federer is much better tennis.

It was better. All their matches this year were on average level, IMO. Relatively.

Sunset of Age
09-16-2012, 12:35 AM
Noledal rivalry wasn't interesting. Both of them faced off in 4 games of Pong/slam finals in a row and the only great tennis was the USO third set.

Djokovic-Federer is much better tennis.

Oh yeah man. PONG.

http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/997901/pong.jpg
:inlove:

Pong was a lot more exciting than the majority of current USO matches.

Oops sorry for this rude interruption.

Sham Kay
09-16-2012, 12:35 AM
I'm really going to miss not missing Nadal when he comes back

Cereal Killer
09-16-2012, 12:45 AM
I always miss Nadal. But I'm probably not qualified to post here, because I'm not a Fedtard.

Sapeod
09-16-2012, 01:10 AM
Coming from a Murray fan :haha:
Typical reply, as expected.

Topspindoctor
09-16-2012, 01:12 AM
Mandytards will never miss Nadal. All those slam finals denied to the pusher. Must have hurt. :awww:

Cereal Killer
09-16-2012, 01:14 AM
Mandytards will never miss Nadal. All those slam finals denied to the pusher. Must have hurt. :awww:

I must not be a tard then. Thank God!

Orka_n
09-16-2012, 01:15 AM
The truth is that if Federer retired now, I couldn't care less. And I sure wouldn't miss him. I'm tired of seeing his mug face everywhere.
Now Nadal is a different matter. He brought something to the game that cannot be replaced. I can't wait for him to get back healthy and pick up the rivalry with Nole where they left it. That was the most interesting thing about current tennis....

:facepalm:

Nole fan
09-16-2012, 02:03 AM
Translation:

My favourite often beats Nadal so he's okay
My favourite does not always beat federer so I will be happy when he retires.

Last time I checked Nadal and Federer beat Nole twice each in 2012. So what's your point? :facepalm:

ssj100
09-16-2012, 03:02 AM
Last time I checked Nadal and Federer beat Nole twice each in 2012. So what's your point? :facepalm:

I don't understand how you can be a true tennis fan and not appreciate what Federer has done for the game. After this era is over, and when you're 10-20 years older, I bet you'll look back and admit appreciation of greats like Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. That, or you'll spend more emotional energy on kids and career issues etc, and less emotional energy on sport.

Topspindoctor
09-16-2012, 03:04 AM
I don't understand how you can be a true tennis fan and not appreciate what Federer has done for the game. After this era is over, and when you're 10-20 years older, I bet you'll look back and admit appreciation of greats like Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. That, or you'll spend more emotional energy on kids and career issues etc, and less emotional energy on sport.

Solve the water shortages by providing nutritional tears when he loses?

ssj100
09-16-2012, 03:12 AM
Solve the water shortages by providing nutritional tears when he loses?

That, and plenty of other things. Come on man, at least you have to admit he is one of the top 1000 players of all time. That's already a good thing for the game. Also, hasn't he made Nadal a great player? Nadal winning many of his slams beating Federer is at least one (of many) highlights of Nadal's career. Right? If you say Federer is a mug player etc, then it means Nadal isn't that great either - why would beating a mug player mean he's great?

ssj100
09-16-2012, 03:14 AM
That's the beauty of what Federer and Nadal did for this game. If you think either Federer or Nadal are great players, it means you are admitting that both players are great. That's why it's so funny to see people say Nadal sux and Federer rules, or vice versa.

ssj100
09-16-2012, 03:18 AM
And the thing is that even Nadal fans would bet Federer wins on fast indoor hard courts, while Federer fans would bet that Nadal wins on slow outdoor clay courts. That's the beauty of their rivalry. They also have very different styles of play - it shows the beauty of tennis - you can have very different styles (even in this "homogenised" "baseline basher" era) and still be incredibly successful. No one formula is perfect.

Allez
09-16-2012, 09:42 AM
None of the shit that went down in NY (Murray's win excepted of course) would have happened had Rafa been there. The tour needs him. Now....

tripwires
09-16-2012, 11:03 AM
None of the shit that went down in NY (Murray's win excepted of course) would have happened had Rafa been there. The tour needs him. Now....

What shit? The bad weather?

Allez
09-16-2012, 11:12 AM
What shit? The bad weather?

ridiculous draws. berd and vulture reaching the semis. fed losing in the quarters etc etc.

tripwires
09-16-2012, 11:17 AM
How would Nadal's presence have helped Roger not lose in the quarters? :lol:

BackhandDTL
09-16-2012, 11:46 AM
If you think either Federer or Nadal are great players, it means you are admitting that both players are great.

I wish more people had this type of sense.

If you support any one of those guys, or any player for that matter, then you ostensibly have to make something of their (main) competition. Otherwise, it doesn't say much about a world-beater when the "world" in question is made up of trash.

You would think that'd be common sense, but the disrespect that gets thrown around is amazingly abundant.

GSMnadal
09-16-2012, 11:49 AM
How would Nadal's presence have helped Roger not lose in the quarters? :lol:

Nadal would've drawn Berdych and taken care of the big bad Czech for his pigeon :armed:

duarte_a
09-16-2012, 11:54 AM
nadal is a great player. he was won 11 slams. what I admire about him is his mental toughness.

With that being said he is also a coward (doens't like to admit he is the favourite for a certain tournament, tries to put the pressure away from him), a cheater (MTO's, coaching, bathroom breaks, ...) and fakes being humble.

Also I don't like his game but that's a matter of opinion while the above are facts.

Ash86
09-16-2012, 12:02 PM
nadal is a great player. he was won 11 slams. what I admire about him is his mental toughness.

With that being said he is also a coward (doens't like to admit he is the favourite for a certain tournament, tries to put the pressure away from him), a cheater (MTO's, coaching, bathroom breaks, ...) and fakes being humble.

Also I don't like his game but that's a matter of opinion while the above are facts.

Keep telling yourself that. :wavey: The fact that he "fakes" being humble is your opinion - look up the word - humility doesn't mean not spending money or indulging, humility means not believing you are above others due to your achievements. Essentially in terms of ethics and values he seems to be the same person now as when he joined the tour - has the same friends, same girlfriend from his hometown, same interests of fishing/golf/football, lives in same town. So his holidays include luxury yachts & he models luxury watches - doesn't mean he's a different person in the things that matter. And it's clear he does think he can always lose - that's something Toni's drilled into him - not always a positive either. :rolleyes:

As for cheating -doubt he's got 11 slams due to bathroom breaks. Even Fed's been guilty of taking those anyway. If it's within the rules - and MTOs and bathroom breaks are - then it's not cheating.

Allez
09-16-2012, 12:12 PM
Question

How would Nadal's presence have helped Roger not lose in the quarters? :lol:

Answer

Nadal would've drawn Berdych and taken care of the big bad Czech for his pigeon :armed:

:yeah:

IOFH
09-16-2012, 02:13 PM
Keep telling yourself that. :wavey: The fact that he "fakes" being humble is your opinion - look up the word - humility doesn't mean not spending money or indulging, humility means not believing you are above others due to your achievements. Essentially in terms of ethics and values he seems to be the same person now as when he joined the tour - has the same friends, same girlfriend from his hometown, same interests of fishing/golf/football, lives in same town. So his holidays include luxury yachts & he models luxury watches - doesn't mean he's a different person in the things that matter. And it's clear he does think he can always lose - that's something Toni's drilled into him - not always a positive either. :rolleyes:



Not really, Nadal's fake humbleness was pretty visible to anyone willing to see it back in 05/06 as well. Now that Nadal has grown to be a bit angrier person it starts to seek through and more people are seeing the true Rafael but it wasn't that hard to pin point back then either.

As for cheating -doubt he's got 11 slams due to bathroom breaks.


Was that the point that was being made?

Nole fan
09-16-2012, 03:07 PM
I don't understand how you can be a true tennis fan and not appreciate what Federer has done for the game. After this era is over, and when you're 10-20 years older, I bet you'll look back and admit appreciation of greats like Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. That, or you'll spend more emotional energy on kids and career issues etc, and less emotional energy on sport.

:cuckoo:

AntiTennis
09-16-2012, 03:18 PM
How would Nadal's presence have helped Roger not lose in the quarters? :lol:
Roger miss Rafa too :sad::devil:

Stefwhit
09-16-2012, 05:29 PM
The ATP w/o Nadal is like the Beatles w/o John Lennon, Aerosmith w/o Steven Tyler, D12 w/o Eminem, Nirvana w/o Kurt Cobain.

Perfectly summated- totally agree.

I almost love watching FedTard lose as much as I enjoy watching Nadal win, but I appreciate the value of having Fed on tour. It's nice to see the FedTards appreciating what Rafa brings to the table. Tennis wins when it's stars are all out there shinning!

Orka_n
09-16-2012, 05:47 PM
:cuckoo:That post wasn't meant to insult you, you know.

Nole fan
09-17-2012, 12:54 AM
That post wasn't meant to insult you, you know.

I don't understand why you guys get so personal? Do I make any comments about your personal lives? no, as I don't know you and you don't know me. So let's keep personal stuff out of this, otherwise what the hell are you doing in an internet tennis forum? it's just a sport, so discuss only what's related to it. :shrug:

sexybeast
09-17-2012, 01:02 AM
Yes, we need Nadal. You want to have the best players out there and not Ferrer and company in semifinals just for variations sake.

Will be interesting to see if Murray is mature to deal with Nadal outside of clay by now and I want to see one more take on Federer vs Nadal on Wimbledon or Usopen.

Looner
09-17-2012, 10:47 AM
I don't understand why you guys get so personal? Do I make any comments about your personal lives? no, as I don't know you and you don't know me. So let's keep personal stuff out of this, otherwise what the hell are you doing in an internet tennis forum? it's just a sport, so discuss only what's related to it. :shrug:

This is coming from the same person who said people who laugh at Nowee have no lives :haha:.