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Does an Olympic gold medal in doubles have more value than a doubles GS title?

Chris Kuerten
07-30-2012, 05:26 PM
Considering the fact this event actually has the best players in the world giving a fuck?

Freak3yman84
07-30-2012, 06:03 PM
Considering the fact this event actually has the best players in the world giving a fuck?

Yup. I think you answered your own question correctly ;)

156mphserve
07-30-2012, 06:19 PM
Nope, Players have to play with opponents from the country unlike GS, so you do not get the best teams here, and if you don't have any other good players from your country, you are kinda screwed

Julián Santiago
07-30-2012, 07:11 PM
Sometimes yes, and sometimes no

Litotes
07-30-2012, 08:37 PM
Nope, Players have to play with opponents from the country unlike GS, so you do not get the best teams here, and if you don't have any other good players from your country, you are kinda screwed

You are thinking of Nestor, of course.

But seriously, do you think Bryan/Bryan would have as many slams if Federer, Djokovic and Nadal entered doubles competition regularly? I don't. Federer/Mirnyi, for example, could have kept the brother's slam count to low single figures if they had maintained their partnership. But it is too exhausting to play Bo5 and doubles.

Javi
07-30-2012, 09:13 PM
Yes.
Olympics is the greatest event in Sports (not necesarily in Tennis but still) so even the players who usually skip doubles want to win here.

Arkulari
07-30-2012, 09:18 PM
You are thinking of Nestor, of course.

But seriously, do you think Bryan/Bryan would have as many slams if Federer, Djokovic and Nadal entered doubles competition regularly? I don't. Federer/Mirnyi, for example, could have kept the brother's slam count to low single figures if they had maintained their partnership. But it is too exhausting to play Bo5 and doubles.

This.

sportstennis
07-31-2012, 07:31 AM
don't care

August
07-31-2012, 11:13 AM
Somewhat similar thread is already here (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=206267).

Anyway, I don't want to dismiss doubles, but I have a feeling that any player would like to have a successful singles career, doubles slams only allow worse singles players to have glory at slams. But as you don't have too many Olympic Gold chances, top players also play OG doubles to get a better chance to win gold.

So, I'd say OG doubles has better quality than Slam doubles, but Slam doubles are more prestigious than OG doubles. So, I'd say they're on the same level, for different reasons. For a doubles specialist, I'd say Slam doubles matter more, for singles' slam winner without an OG singles gold, OG doubles gold matter more.

Pratik
07-31-2012, 03:32 PM
I think it boils down to the same question as singles gold vs singles GS title.
In tennis terms, a GS title has much more value.

Many top singles players participating gets (at the least) negated by the fact that they are so few regular doubles teams. To top that there a few absolutely ridiculous pairings. Paes and Vardhan. Tecau and Ungur.

Bad Religion
08-04-2012, 01:13 AM
Ask a Peruvian or Uruguayan if they would change that RG crown of Cuevas-Horna for a Gold Medal. I think the answer is absolutely yes

Boris Franz Ecker
08-04-2012, 06:51 PM
Of course.

Double slam have no value for top players.

Olympic gold has a good value.

Boris Franz Ecker
08-05-2012, 08:40 AM
even an olympics bronze is far more important than winning 5 double slam titles.

doubles have no importance for elite players apart from daviscup and olympics.

mreccentric
08-06-2012, 01:40 PM
You are thinking of Nestor, of course.

But seriously, do you think Bryan/Bryan would have as many slams if Federer, Djokovic and Nadal entered doubles competition regularly? I don't. Federer/Mirnyi, for example, could have kept the brother's slam count to low single figures if they had maintained their partnership. But it is too exhausting to play Bo5 and doubles.

Fed/Mirnyi just played 3 tournaments together, which included no grandslam. So, we can't really tell about partnership against Bryans. If you see the stats you see that Nadal,Djokovic,Federer lost many times in doubles at prelims, at many tournaments.

Litotes
08-06-2012, 02:11 PM
Fed/Mirnyi just played 3 tournaments together, which included no grandslam. So, we can't really tell about partnership against Bryans. If you see the stats you see that Nadal,Djokovic,Federer lost many times in doubles at prelims, at many tournaments.

Certainly. Mostly because they played with low-ranking countrymen who are their friends. I mean, Yves Allegro? Does that sound like an attempt of winning the tournament?

Mirnyi might not be the ideal partner for Fed, but he would certainly be a better one than Allegro. Neither of the top three would have any difficulty attracting a top-tier partner if they committed fo doubles for a while.

Snowwy
08-06-2012, 02:14 PM
Of course, making it all the more amazing that Nestor has a gold in the Olympics.

mreccentric
08-06-2012, 02:33 PM
Certainly. Mostly because they played with low-ranking countrymen who are their friends. I mean, Yves Allegro? Does that sound like an attempt of winning the tournament?

Mirnyi might not be the ideal partner for Fed, but he would certainly be a better one than Allegro. Neither of the top three would have any difficulty attracting a top-tier partner if they committed fo doubles for a while.
IMO, singles ranking is worthless when they play the best doubles teams. Can't say much. If a singles player concentrates on his doubles skills and puts some time and work for it, then they can surely be a good doubles team. Yet, we can't rule out that all singles player make good doubles team. It's all about getting together and playing together. Some doubles teams do this well.
Of course, making it all the more amazing that Nestor has a gold in the Olympics.

Of course, when you have a golden slam, then the possibility of making into the HOF is more.

Litotes
08-06-2012, 03:21 PM
IMO, singles ranking is worthless when they play the best doubles teams. Can't say much. If a singles player concentrates on his doubles skills and puts some time and work for it, then they can surely be a good doubles team. Yet, we can't rule out that all singles player make good doubles team. It's all about getting together and playing together. Some doubles teams do this well.


Of course, when you have a golden slam, then the possibility of making into the HOF is more.

Yes, and some singles players like Federer and Nadal can win gold in the Olympics, beating the World #1 pair, or a Masters tournament, even without concentrating on doubles. I would like to see the reverse happening....

As for the HOF, I wouldn't worry too much. After all - one slam wonder Chang got in.