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Bagels eaten in their prime by the great players...

fsoica
07-29-2012, 04:20 PM
I was thinking about Federer, considering his prime years starting in 2003 and still going...
I think the only bagel was the one in that famous RG 2008 final against Rafa. Any other?

How about other great players, not necessarily still playing the game?

Looner
07-29-2012, 04:21 PM
Nadal in the 2006 Wimbledon final and in the Hamburg final of 2007 against the GOAT :drool: :lick:.

TBkeeper
07-29-2012, 04:23 PM
Federer gave Davydenko(at his peak) a nice Bagel with 13 consecutive games in 2010 ;)

Deathless Mortal
07-29-2012, 04:24 PM
Nadal in the 2006 Wimbledon final and in the Hamburg final of 2007 against the GOAT :drool: :lick:.

You forgot the last WTF :D

Looner
07-29-2012, 04:27 PM
You forgot the last WTF :D

Rogi's collection of bagels only needs an outdoor one. Hopefully come the US that fault is rectified.

asmazif
07-29-2012, 04:29 PM
Nole v Kei at Basel last year.

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 04:39 PM
Tokyo final was a extra tasty bagel for Nadal last year, a bagel with only 4 sprinkles for Nadal (he won 4 points :dance:)

Deathless Mortal
07-29-2012, 04:42 PM
Soderling in his prime was bageled by Nadal, only a few weeks before reaching the RG final.

BroTree123
07-29-2012, 04:42 PM
Poor Nadal getting peppered here in regards to copping bagels. Why is he so shit :sobbing:

Mystique
07-29-2012, 04:44 PM
Fit Dave dished out a very tasty bagel to Rafito in Paris 2007:drool:

Slice Winner
07-29-2012, 04:46 PM
Rogi's collection of bagels only needs an outdoor one. Hopefully come the US that fault is rectified.

Rog has Fed Nadal a bagel on outdoor clay, so who cares about HC :p

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 04:48 PM
Poor Nadal getting peppered here in regards to copping bagels. Why is he so shit :sobbing:

Piggy loves being stuffed with bagels ;)

BroTree123
07-29-2012, 04:49 PM
Is Nadal like the only top 3 player in history who gets bageled so often (for a top player)? If so, what a mug :o

He got bageled three times in 2011 :facepalm: Really Nadal? :stupid:

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 04:57 PM
Oh and a tasty Bagel in that 2009(?) Rotterdam final for Nadal, yum yum I'm sure he enjoyed eating that :p

Mystique
07-29-2012, 04:58 PM
Is Nadal like the only top 3 player in history who gets bageled so often (for a top player)? If so, what a mug :o

He got bageled three times in 2011 :facepalm: Really Nadal? :stupid:

And one received from the great Lukas Lacko:worship:

Deathless Mortal
07-29-2012, 04:58 PM
Don't forget the '08 Chennai final. Youzhny def. Nadal 6-0 6-1. :drool:

Mystique
07-29-2012, 05:01 PM
I was thinking about Federer, considering his prime years starting in 2003 and still going...
I think the only bagel was the one in that famous RG 2008 final against Rafa. Any other?


Rog has only been bagelled four times in his career, and 3 came when he was 17/18 :eek:
because of his great serve and even better ability to back it up, guess one shouldnt be surprised he is hard to bagel. Still thats a very nice stat in his career. :yeah:

Corey Feldman
07-29-2012, 05:04 PM
some of Fed's stats are just immortal

1 bagel taken in 13 years

no retirements ever in over 1000 matches

33 GS QF in a row

BroTree123
07-29-2012, 05:04 PM
Don't forget the '08 Chennai final. Youzhny def. Nadal 6-0 6-1. :drool:

He tanked so clearly that doesn't count :angel:

Honestly
07-29-2012, 05:07 PM
Nadull has gotta be the most bagel fed top player in history. Fed the must under fed. Bagelling Nadull is is about as easy as banging the local town whore.

Honestly
07-29-2012, 05:09 PM
some of Fed's stats are just immortal

1 bagel taken in 13 years

no retirements ever in over 1000 matches

33 GS QF in a row

And that bagel he got Fed was has an asterisk next to it. He had mono that year. If you look at all his other RG matches with Nadal they were ALL a LOT closer.

Paylu2007
07-29-2012, 05:10 PM
Maybe u should change the tHread title to "Bagael Nadal"...

all the hatred in this thread :lol:

Paylu2007
07-29-2012, 05:13 PM
And that bagel he got Fed was has an asterisk next to it. He had mono that year. If you look at all his other RG matches with Nadal they were ALL a LOT closer.

True.

No Healthy Fed has ever been bageled before :worship:

:rolleyes: oh, the Irony!!! :devil:

Mystique
07-29-2012, 05:14 PM
Maybe u should change the tHread title to "Bagael Nadal"...

all the hatred in this thread :lol:

no hatred really. Nadal does have an interesting shutout record (often dishes them out, but is prone to receiving them now and then too) among the current crop of top players, merely stating the fact.

anyway, back to the topic, has Murray ever been bagelled? I cannot remember seeing him on the receiving end...

BroTree123
07-29-2012, 05:15 PM
And that bagel he got Fed was has an asterisk next to it. He had mono that year. If you look at all his other RG matches with Nadal they were ALL a LOT closer.

No it doesn't, Nadal earned that bagel fair and square. Sure Fed wasn't well physically, but Nadal was also on another world in that 3rd set.

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 05:16 PM
A healthy fed never loses, where have we heard that before :lol:

Honestly
07-29-2012, 05:16 PM
No it doesn't, Nadal earned that bagel fair and square. Sure Fed wasn't well physically, but Nadal was also on another world in that 3rd set.

It does. Roger played shit that whole year. Only highlight was the USO. You can see how mono is affecting Soderling :rolleyes:

TBkeeper
07-29-2012, 05:17 PM
Nadal loves bagels cause it begins to itches his butt so sweetly cause of touching the bagel then the butt ... you know :rolleyes:

BroTree123
07-29-2012, 05:19 PM
It does. Roger played shit that whole year. Only highlight was the USO. You can see how mono is affecting Soderling :rolleyes:

Mono varies in severity among different people :facepalm:

Just because Fed played with mono and was still able to play some good tennis, doesn't mean it was as serious as Soderling's right now :o

Take a look at Haas and Roddick, they had mono too, but not as severe. Fed's mono was probably only marginally worse than theirs.

G4.
07-29-2012, 05:24 PM
Nadull has gotta be the most bagel fed top player in history. Fed the must under fed. Bagelling Nadull is is about as easy as banging the local town whore.

now this is why i love this forum :worship:

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 05:26 PM
Bagelling Nadal is like the village bicycle, everyones had a ride!

Eden
07-29-2012, 05:26 PM
1995 Stuttgart SF

Stich - Becker 6:0 6:3


1989 Wimbledon F

Becker - Edberg 6:0 7:6 6:4


1990 Stockholm F

Becker - Edberg 6:4 6:0 6:3


1992 ATP WC RR

Becker - Edberg 6:4 6:0

Eden
07-29-2012, 05:37 PM
2004 Bangkok F

Federer - Roddick 6:4 6:0

2007 AO SF

Federer - Roddick 6:4 6:0 6:2

2002 Hamburg Q

Federer - Kuerten 6:0 1:6 6:2

2006 Madrid F

Federer - Gonzalez 7:5 6:1 6:0

2006 Madrid SF

Federer - Nalbandian 6:4 6:0

2004 AO R16

Federer - Hewitt 4:6 6:3 6:0 6:4

2004 Hamburg SF

Federer - Hewitt 6:0 6:4

2004 Wimbledon QF

Federer - Hewitt 6:1 6:7 6:0 6:4

2004 USO F

Federer - Hewitt 6:0 7:6 6:0

Mark Lenders
07-29-2012, 05:39 PM
Del Potro got double bageled by Federer in Australia in 2009 months before beating the same Federer for the US Open title.

Roddick and Hewitt got bageled by Federer a few times too.

Gaudio double bageled by Federer in TMC 2005.

Nishikori bageled Djokovic last year in Basel.

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 05:40 PM
Oh LayLay :haha:

What is their h2h

jonas
07-29-2012, 05:43 PM
1995 Stuttgart SF

Stich - Becker 6:0 6:3




1990 Hamburg
Becker-Aguilera 1-6, 0-6, 6-7

1987 Washington
Becker- Gilbert 6-3, 3-6, 0-6

1986 Roland Garros
Becker-Pernfors 6-2, 4-6, 2-6, 0-6

Eden
07-29-2012, 05:50 PM
Oh LayLay :haha:

What is their h2h

18:8


2006 AO S

Federer - Kiefer 6:3 5:7 6:0 6:2

2006 AO R16

Federer - Haas 6:4 6:0 3:6 4:6 6:2

2009 RG R16

Federer - Haa 6:7 5:7 6:4 6:0 6:2

v-money
07-29-2012, 05:50 PM
some of Fed's stats are just immortal

1 bagel taken in 13 years

no retirements ever in over 1000 matches

33 GS QF in a row

Federer respects the game too much to tank sets or matches or to withdraw from matches. Nadal on the other hand will tank a set 0-6 vs Lukas Lacko and bounce back to win the decider. Then his fans will say "But Rafito only lost that set 0-6 because he had a stuffy nose" and will make excuses for future losses.

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 05:51 PM
18:8

Respectable actually

Slice Winner
07-29-2012, 05:53 PM
Rafael Bagal

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 05:56 PM
Rafael Bagal

:spit:

nole_no1
07-29-2012, 05:56 PM
You forgot the last WTF :D

Did that Nadal look like "prime Nadal" to you ? :p

Eden
07-29-2012, 05:59 PM
2005 Tennis Masters Cup RR

Federer - Coria 6:0 1:6 6:2

2006 Indian Wells F

Federer - Blake 7:5 6:3 6:0

2006 USO QF

Federer - Blake 7:6 6:0 6:7 6:4

2006 Tennis Masters Cup F

Federer - Blake 6:0 6:3 6:4

2003 Tennis Masters Cup F

Federer - Agassi 6:3 6:0 6:4

2006 Halle F

Federer - Berdych 6:0 6:7 6:2

2006 AO F

Federer - Baghdatis 5:7 7:5 6:0 6:2

2007 Monte Carlo QF

Federer - Ferrer 6:4 6:0

v-money
07-29-2012, 06:05 PM
Did that Nadal look like "prime Nadal" to you ? :p

Nadal has been so plagued by injuries that he has never reached a peak. Would have had 20+ slams if he ever peaked.

Fed fordawin
07-29-2012, 06:07 PM
Did that Nadal look like "prime Nadal" to you ? :p

"Prime" has to refer to the year. 2012: nadal is in his prime.

People who get bagelled do tend to play badly yes:rolleyes::rolleyes:.

Although in that TMC, it wasn't even the case, nadal was playing his normal level, it's just Federer who was walking on watter.

Mark Lenders
07-29-2012, 06:07 PM
Djokovic, Ferrero and Safin are the only Slam champions of the past decade who never got bagelled by Federer.

He bagelled Agassi once.

Roddick twice.

Hewitt 5 times.

Gaudio twice. (double bagel in TMC)

Nadal 3 times.

Del Potro 3 times (also a double bagel at AO 2009)

Eden
07-29-2012, 06:07 PM
2000 Tennis Masters Cup RR

Hewitt - Sampras 7:5 6:0

1993 Wimbledon R32

Agassi - Rafter 6:1 6:7 6:0 6:3

1995 AO R16

Agassi - Rafter 6:3 6:4 6:0

1996 Washington R16

Rafter - Agassi 6:7 6:0 6:2

2001 Miami SF

Agassi - Rafter 6:0 6:7 6:2

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 06:09 PM
Has Federer bageled Muzzah?

Looner
07-29-2012, 06:11 PM
Has Federer bageled Muzzah?

Nope, I don't think so. But Muzz never really played Primerer ;).

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 06:12 PM
Nope, I don't think so. But Muzz never really played Primerer ;).

Bangkok final 2005?

Cincinatti 2006?

Or was 2005-2006 not Prime Fed? :p

I thought fed did bagel muzz in Bangkok, oh well

bounccer
07-29-2012, 06:13 PM
Sampras was bagelled by Hewitt in the Master Cup 2000 in indoor, Hewitt was able to read Sampras's better than any player in the history.

Ha was bagelled by Kafelnikov in the 1996 FO semi and by Cherkasov in 1992, so 3 bagels after his USO final in 1990 ( i don't remember before but he was too young, it doesn't count), unless i made a mistake.

Sampras gave hardly any bagel too, when he broke, he didn't care anymore about the returns games.

It's the opposite for Agassi, i think he gave many many bagels.

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 06:14 PM
Borg was a bagel machine on clay

Matt01
07-29-2012, 06:16 PM
And that bagel he got Fed was has an asterisk next to it. He had mono that year. If you look at all his other RG matches with Nadal they were ALL a LOT closer.


:stupid:

Eden
07-29-2012, 06:18 PM
1985 Bastad F

Wilander - Edberg 6:1 6:0

1988 AO SF

Wilander - Edberg 6:0 6:7 6:3 3:6 6:1

1989 Stockholm SF

Lendl - Edberg 6:0 2:6 6:3

1991 Tokio F

Edberg - Lendl 6:1 7:5 6:0

1983 Cincinatti SF

Wilander - Lendl 6:0 6:3

1985 Tokio F

Lendl - Wilander 6:0 6:4

1987 USO F

Lendl - Wilander 6:7 6:0 7:6 6:4

bounccer
07-29-2012, 06:20 PM
Nadal is often bagelled because:

- He has a poor serve, so when he's off, he's slaughtered
- He tend to tank like a madman when he's injured to show to anyone that he lose only because he isn't able to play, no?

jonas
07-29-2012, 06:21 PM
Sampras was bagelled by Hewitt in the Master Cup 2000 in indoor, Hewitt was able to read Sampras's better than any player in the history.

Ha was bagelled by Kafelnikov in the 1996 FO semi and by Cherkasov in 1992, so 3 bagels after his USO final in 1990 ( i don't remember before but he was too young, it doesn't count), unless i made a mistake.

Sampras gave hardly any bagel too, when he broke, he didn't care anymore about the returns games.

It's the opposite for Agassi, i think he gave many many bagels.

Sampras was bagelled 10 times in his career. Federer 4 times. Is Federer the world number 1 with fewest number of bagels recieved?

uxyzapenje
07-29-2012, 06:35 PM
Novak got bageled 6 times in his career, and he won 4 of those matches :eek: also +1 time he got bageled in challengers, and he won that match too :worship:

He only lost 6-0 and lost the match last year to Kei and to Safin in 2005 AO. Other times he beat Gasuqet, Monfils, Fish and Davydenko and some Brazilian guy in CH.

Matt01
07-29-2012, 06:38 PM
Sampras was bagelled 10 times in his career. Federer 4 times. Is Federer the world number 1 with fewest number of bagels recieved?


What were those 4 bagels that Fed got feeded? :)

bounccer
07-29-2012, 06:40 PM
Novak got bageled 6 times in his career, and he won 4 of those matches :eek: also +1 time he got bageled in challengers, and he won that match too :worship:

He only lost 6-0 and lost the match last year to Kei and to Safin in 2005 AO. Other times he beat Gasuqet, Monfils, Fish and Davydenko and some Brazilian guy in CH.


Because it was a tactic which Djokovic liked, tank completely a set to disturb the rythm of his opponent and suddenly raise his game to win the third set.

Trollin Stone
07-29-2012, 06:48 PM
Connors:

1974 Nottingham QF Smith - Connors 46 64 60
1976 La Costa F Nastase - Connors 46 60 61
1977 US Open F Vilas - Connors 26 63 76 60
1978 Las Vegas R16 Borowiak - Connors 63 60
1981 French Open QF Clerc - Connors 46 62 46 75 60
1981 Wimbledon SF Borg - Connors 06 46 63 60 64
1984 Forrest Hills SF Lendl - Connors 60 60
1985 La Quinta QF Holmes - Connors 60 63
1985 Stratton Mountain SF Lendl - Connors 60 46 64
1986 Fort Myers F Lendl - Connors 62 60
1987 Chicago R16 Connors - Goldie 61 06 61

jonas
07-29-2012, 06:50 PM
What were those 4 bagels that Fed got feeded? :)

Besides the famous one in RG 2008:

1999 Queens: Byron Black 3-6, 0-6
1999 Roland Garros: Patrick Rafter 7-5, 3-6, 0-6, 2-6
1999 Monte Carlo: Vincent Spadea (:haha:) 6-7(3), 0-6

Looner
07-29-2012, 07:07 PM
Bangkok final 2005?

Cincinatti 2006?

Or was 2005-2006 not Prime Fed? :p

I thought fed did bagel muzz in Bangkok, oh well

I didn't see Bangkok plus Muzz was a bit of a baby then. Cincy 2006 Federer was tanking like crazy, having just won Canada. He made 50 UEs in 2 sets or something.

Trollin Stone
07-29-2012, 07:08 PM
Borg:

1974 Davis Cup QF (European) Borg - Nowicki 26 62 06 61 61
1974 French Open R16 Borg - Van Dillen 06 63 63 57 63
1974 Montreal QF Vilas - Borg 76 60
1974 Barcelona QF Borg - Kodes 06 97 75
1974 Tehran SF Ramirez - Borg 60 61
1975 Monte Carlo QF Lloyd - Borg 60 57 64
1975 Dallas F Ashe - Borg 36 64 64 60
1975 Wimbledon R32 Borg - Fillol 06 64 64 63
1975 Madrid SF Panatta - Borg 75 60 62
1976 Philadelphia F Connors - Borg 76 64 60
1976 French Open R128 Borg - Bedel 06 60 64 75
1978 Richmond QF Newcombe - Borg 60 10 ret.
1980 Masters (now WTF) RR Mayer - Borg 60 63
1981 Monte Carlo R32 Pecci - Borg 60 46 75
1981 Wimbledon SF Borg - Connors 06 46 63 60 64
1981 Geneva SF Borg - Orantes 64 06 61

Corey Feldman
07-29-2012, 07:12 PM
1999 Monte Carlo: Vincent Spadea (:haha:) 6-7(3), 0-6Fed made sure Spadea suffered for that @ 2006 US Open: 6-3 6-3 6-0

Trollin Stone
07-29-2012, 07:23 PM
McEnroe:

1980 Memphis R32 McEnroe - Taygan 06 64 61
1980 Monte Carlo R16 McEnroe - Barazzutti 61 06 62
1980 Forrest Hills F Gerulaitis - McEnroe 26 62 60
1980 US Open SF McEnroe - Connors 64 57 06 63 76
1980 Masters RR Clerc - Mcenroe 63 60
1983 Davis Cup R16 Clerc - McEnroe 64 60 36 46 75
1983 Davis Cup R16 Vilas - McEnroe 64 60 61
1983 French Open QF Wilander - McEnroe 16 62 64 60
1985 Australian Open QF Zivojinovic - McEnroe 26 63 16 64 60

AsianSensation
07-29-2012, 07:26 PM
Blake getting bageled 3 times by Prime Fed in 06 was :lol:

buzz
07-29-2012, 07:27 PM
Djokovic, Ferrero and Safin are the only Slam champions of the past decade who never got bagelled by Federer.

He bagelled Agassi once.

Roddick twice.

Hewitt 5 times.

Gaudio twice. (double bagel in TMC)

Nadal 3 times.

Del Potro 3 times (also a double bagel at AO 2009)

That is after the USO, until then you have to include Sampras.

rocketassist
07-29-2012, 07:30 PM
no hatred really. Nadal does have an interesting shutout record (often dishes them out, but is prone to receiving them now and then too) among the current crop of top players, merely stating the fact.

anyway, back to the topic, has Murray ever been bagelled? I cannot remember seeing him on the receiving end...

Seven main tour bagels for Murray:


Nalbandian at Wimbledon 2005
Davydenko at US Open 2006
Hrbaty at Paris-Bercy 2006
Djokovic in Miami 2007
Djokovic in Monte Carlo 2008
Wawrinka in Toronto 2008 (a match he won, lol)
Gonzalez at RG 2009

Jafooli
07-29-2012, 07:36 PM
Seven main tour bagels for Murray:


Nalbandian at Wimbledon 2005
Davydenko at US Open 2006
Hrbaty at Paris-Bercy 2006
Djokovic in Miami 2007
Djokovic in Monte Carlo 2008
Wawrinka in Toronto 2008 (a match he won, lol)
Gonzalez at RG 2009

Was also bagelled by Monfils of all people in Toronto 2010, before beating Nalbandian, Nadal and Fed all in straights to take the title.

TigerTim
07-29-2012, 07:37 PM
I didn't see Bangkok plus Muzz was a bit of a baby then. Cincy 2006 Federer was tanking like crazy, having just won Canada. He made 50 UEs in 2 sets or something.

so Fed couldn't bagel baby Muzz in his prime? poor, very poor indeed :p

Trollin Stone
07-29-2012, 07:43 PM
Lendl:

1980 Indianapolis R32 Freyss - Lendl 63 60
1980 Cincinnati QF Connors - Lendl 62 60
1980 Madrid SF Clerc - Lendl 16 60 63
1980 Basel F Lendl - Borg 63 62 57 06 64
1980 Sydney R16 Warwick - Lendl 63 60
1981 Rome SF Clerc - Lendl 36 75 60 62
1982 Madrid F Vilas - Lendl 67 46 60 63 63
1983 French Open QF Noah - Lendl 76 62 57 60
1983 Queens Club SF Connors - Lendl 60 63
1983 Cincinnati SF Wilander - Lendl 60 63
1983 US Open F Connors - Lendl 63 67 75 60
1984 Tokyo(i) F Connors - Lendl 64 36 60
1984 Masters F McEnroe - Lendl 75 60 64
1985 Australian Open R64 Lendl - Lavalle 64 06 64 62
1986 Sydney F Becker - Lendl 36 76 62 60
1987 French Open R128 Lendl - Agenor 75 76 06 63
1991 Tokyo(o) F Edberg - Lendl 61 75 60

Trollin Stone
07-29-2012, 07:48 PM
Sampras:

1992 Olympics R16 Cherkasov - Sampras 67 16 75 60 63
1996 French Open SF Kafelnikov - Sampras 76 60 62
2000 Masters Cup RR Hewitt - Sampras 75 60

jonas
07-29-2012, 08:16 PM
Borg:

1974 Davis Cup QF (European) Borg - Nowicki 26 62 06 61 61
1974 French Open R16 Borg - Van Dillen 06 63 63 57 63
1974 Montreal QF Vilas - Borg 76 60
1974 Barcelona QF Borg - Kodes 06 97 75
1974 Tehran SF Ramirez - Borg 60 61
1975 Monte Carlo QF Lloyd - Borg 60 57 64
1975 Dallas F Ashe - Borg 36 64 64 60
1975 Wimbledon R32 Borg - Fillol 06 64 64 63
1975 Madrid SF Panatta - Borg 75 60 62
1976 Philadelphia F Connors - Borg 76 64 60
1976 French Open R128 Borg - Bedel 06 60 64 75
1978 Richmond QF Newcombe - Borg 60 10 ret.
1980 Masters (now WTF) RR Mayer - Borg 60 63
1981 Monte Carlo R32 Pecci - Borg 60 46 75
1981 Wimbledon SF Borg - Connors 06 46 63 60 64
1981 Geneva SF Borg - Orantes 64 06 61

The best thing about that is that Bjorn won nearly half of those matches. :lol:

Honestly
07-29-2012, 09:15 PM
Mono varies in severity among different people :facepalm:

Just because Fed played with mono and was still able to play some good tennis, doesn't mean it was as serious as Soderling's right now :o

Take a look at Haas and Roddick, they had mono too, but not as severe. Fed's mono was probably only marginally worse than theirs.

And you would know that how exactly. Fed hides his injuries more than any other player. He doesn't like to talk about it. If you can't see that Fed was way below par in 2008 then sorry but you are just a moron. You don't just suddenly go from winning 3 slams, the WTF, and several other events to winning 1 slam, no WTF and less smaller events. I already mentioned that all their other RG meeting were much closer as well. If you don't get it now there is no help for you.

Honestly
07-29-2012, 09:17 PM
:stupid:

:stupid:

Honestly
07-29-2012, 09:18 PM
Rafael Bagal

:superlol:

Deathless Mortal
07-29-2012, 09:23 PM
Djokovic, Ferrero and Safin are the only Slam champions of the past decade who never got bagelled by Federer.



You forgot ToJo ;)

RForever
07-29-2012, 09:45 PM
And you would know that how exactly. Fed hides his injuries more than any other player. He doesn't like to talk about it. If you can't see that Fed was way below par in 2008 then sorry but you are just a moron. You don't just suddenly go from winning 3 slams, the WTF, and several other events to winning 1 slam, no WTF and less smaller events. I already mentioned that all their other RG meeting were much closer as well. If you don't get it now there is no help for you.

Of course anyone could see he was affected by mono but not every mono is the same and not everyone reacts the same way. Sod mono is much worse than the one Fed got, thats for sure.

Honestly
07-29-2012, 09:50 PM
Of course anyone could see he was affected by mono but not every mono is the same and not everyone reacts the same way. Sod mono is much worse than the one Fed got, thats for sure.

I never disagreed with that. But Fed had a pretty tough case of mono himself. For anyone who knows him it was blatantly obvious that he wasn't the same player. It got better as the year went by but the damage had already been done. He lost confidence because of mono early on and then of course Vulturedull cashed in on it :rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
07-29-2012, 09:56 PM
Total bagels eaten:

Federer -- 4 (3 when he was 17 years or younger, 1,046 matches played)

Djokovic -- 7 (3 before 2007, 553 matches played)

Becker -- 9 (2, post 1998, 927 matches played)

Sampras -- 10 (7 before 1990, 984 matches played)

Nadal -- 12 (3 before his meteoric rise began in the South American clay season in 2005, 705 matches played)

McEnroe -- 16 (6 post 1985 "break from tennis"; 1 when he was 18 years old and before he turned pro, 1,074 matches played [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Borg -- 17 (2 in his late career comeback, 5 when he was 18 years old or younger [even though he was playing amazingly well at that age], 735
matches played [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Connors --17 (10 past the age of 32; he played 1,527 matches [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Lendl -- 24 (5 post 1991 and 2 before 1980, 1,308 matches played [some
matches not listed by the ATP])

Wilander – 24 (7 post 1989, 4 when he was 18 and younger, 793 matches played)

Edberg -- 27 (3 in 1995 and later, 3 when he was 18 and younger, 1,076 matches played)

Agassi – 27 (10 when he was 18 years old and younger, even though he was playing really well at that age;1,144 matches played)

Honestly
07-29-2012, 10:01 PM
Total bagels eaten:

Federer --- 4 (3 when he was 17 years or younger, 1,046 matches played)


Becker -- 9 (2, post 1998, 927 matches played)

Sampras - 10 (7 before 1990, 984 matches played)

Nadal -- 12 (3 before his meteoric rise began in the South American clay season in 2005, 705 matches played)

McEnroe -- 16 (6 post 1985 "break from tennis"; 1 when he was 18 years old and before he turned pro, 1,074 matches played [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Borg -- 17 (2 in his late career comeback, 5 when he was 18 years old or younger [even though he was playing amazingly well at that age], 735
matches played [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Connors --17 (10 past the age of 32; he played 1,527 matches [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Lendl -- 24 (5 post 1991 and 2 before 1980, 1,308 matches played [some
matches not listed by the ATP])

Wilander – 24 (7 post 1989, 4 when he was 18 and younger, 793 matches played)

Edberg -- 27 (3 in 1995 and later, 3 when he was 18 and younger, 1,076 matches played)

Agassi – 27 (10 when he was 18 years old and younger, even though he was playing really well at that age;1,144 matches played)

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/006/cache/mountain-goat_635_600x450.jpg

RForever
07-29-2012, 10:46 PM
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/006/cache/mountain-goat_635_600x450.jpg

Now that is a GOAT!

BTW agree, loss of confidence caused by mono was worse than mono itself.

Honestly
07-29-2012, 10:49 PM
Now that is a GOAT!

BTW agree, loss of confidence caused by mono was worse than mono itself.

People don't seem to understand that. The mono itself is only half of it. The loss of confidence due to lost matches is the other half. It takes time to recover physically as well as mentally.

HKz
07-29-2012, 11:06 PM
Total bagels eaten:

Federer -- 4 (3 when he was 17 years or younger, 1,046 matches played)

Djokovic -- 7 (3 before 2007, 553 matches played)

Becker -- 9 (2, post 1998, 927 matches played)

Sampras -- 10 (7 before 1990, 984 matches played)

Nadal -- 12 (3 before his meteoric rise began in the South American clay season in 2005, 705 matches played)

McEnroe -- 16 (6 post 1985 "break from tennis"; 1 when he was 18 years old and before he turned pro, 1,074 matches played [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Borg -- 17 (2 in his late career comeback, 5 when he was 18 years old or younger [even though he was playing amazingly well at that age], 735
matches played [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Connors --17 (10 past the age of 32; he played 1,527 matches [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Lendl -- 24 (5 post 1991 and 2 before 1980, 1,308 matches played [some
matches not listed by the ATP])

Wilander – 24 (7 post 1989, 4 when he was 18 and younger, 793 matches played)

Edberg -- 27 (3 in 1995 and later, 3 when he was 18 and younger, 1,076 matches played)

Agassi – 27 (10 when he was 18 years old and younger, even though he was playing really well at that age;1,144 matches played)

Quite a stat I think. Weak era or not, Nole and Rafa have eaten more bagels. It also shows you how strong Federer's service games are, to at least get 1 game even in struggling sets for him. I mean I thought Sampras and Becker would have less.

BigJohn
07-29-2012, 11:14 PM
Total bagels eaten:

Federer -- 4 (3 when he was 17 years or younger, 1,046 matches played)

Djokovic -- 7 (3 before 2007, 553 matches played)

Becker -- 9 (2, post 1998, 927 matches played)

Sampras -- 10 (7 before 1990, 984 matches played)

Nadal -- 12 (3 before his meteoric rise began in the South American clay season in 2005, 705 matches played)

McEnroe -- 16 (6 post 1985 "break from tennis"; 1 when he was 18 years old and before he turned pro, 1,074 matches played [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Borg -- 17 (2 in his late career comeback, 5 when he was 18 years old or younger [even though he was playing amazingly well at that age], 735
matches played [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Connors --17 (10 past the age of 32; he played 1,527 matches [some matches not listed by the ATP])

Lendl -- 24 (5 post 1991 and 2 before 1980, 1,308 matches played [some
matches not listed by the ATP])

Wilander – 24 (7 post 1989, 4 when he was 18 and younger, 793 matches played)

Edberg -- 27 (3 in 1995 and later, 3 when he was 18 and younger, 1,076 matches played)

Agassi – 27 (10 when he was 18 years old and younger, even though he was playing really well at that age;1,144 matches played)

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/006/cache/mountain-goat_635_600x450.jpg

:worship:

BroTree123
07-30-2012, 02:08 AM
His serve is what makes him almost impossible to be bageled.

Bagelling Nadal is like the village bicycle, everyones had a ride!

Was sounding dirty until you said bicycle :o

n8
07-30-2012, 02:45 AM
At least Nadal's bagels are generally genuine. Murray eats tank bagels in matches he wins:

Canada v Wawrinka 2008 6-2 0-6 6-4 (made semi-finals)
Roland Garros v Baghdatis 2010 6-2 6-3 0-6 6-2
Canada v Monfils 2010 6-2 0-6 6-3 (won tournament)

Seleshfan
07-30-2012, 03:08 AM
Does anyone know who has served the most bagels?

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Whiznot
07-30-2012, 01:13 PM
Tokyo final was a extra tasty bagel for Nadal last year, a bagel with only 4 sprinkles for Nadal (he won 4 points :dance:)

BTW, The chef who prepared that very tasty bagel before cramming it down Rafa's throat was Andy Murray.

Beat
07-31-2012, 11:59 AM
Del Potro got double bageled by Federer in Australia in 2009 months before beating the same Federer for the US Open title.

:unsure:

Trollin Stone
07-31-2012, 12:55 PM
Does anyone know who has served the most bagels?

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For the open era it has to be Connors with 192 bagels in the matches listed by ATP, Lendl with 148 (just matches listed by ATP), Borg with 134 (incredible performance in just 768 matches = 1 bagel in less than 6 matches, only matches listed by ATP + all his DC matches), Agassi 116 If I didnt make mistake. For instance Federer has served 76 bagels so far... Hope this numbers are correct.
Edit: Sampras served only 37 bagels.

Litotes
07-31-2012, 01:15 PM
For the open era it has to be Connors with 192 bagels in the matches listed by ATP, Lendl with 148 (just matches listed by ATP), Borg with 134 (incredible performance in just 768 matches, only matches listed by ATP + all his DC matches), Agassi 116 If I didnt make mistake. For instance Federer has served 76 bagels so far... Hope this numbers are correct.
Edit: Sampras served only 37 bagels.

Great stats, thanks for the info!

No surprise really that the great returners serve more bagels than the great servers. If you are Sampras, returning on 5-0, how hard will you push for another break? You're going to win the set next game anyway.