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How come Italy hasn't produced a Grand Slam winner?

tommyg6
07-27-2012, 06:22 PM
I always found it strange that a country like Italy never produced a Grand Slam winner in the Open era. I just don't get it. Why is it that way?

-Almost every other neighboring country in Europe has produced a Grand Slam winner except for Italy. Italy's neighbors like Spain, France, Switzerland, Austria, Croatia, Serbia all produced Grand Slam winners.

-Italy is a warm country like Spain and tennis can be played all year round but yet there's nothing to show for.

-Their current crop of players are not gonna be winning Slams any time soon. Seppi, The Fog, Starace, and the boys are not grand slam winning material. The Fog's quaterfinal run to the French Open last year was the best showing by an Italian since the early 90s which I find bizarre.

-I think a country like Italy has the potential to produce a Grand Slam winner.

Paylu2007
07-27-2012, 06:28 PM
they are too bussy rocking in soccer :)

jjc225
07-27-2012, 06:29 PM
Well, it's just never happened, but I understand your comparison to other European countries. The Italian Open has always been a great tournament and thought it could have been a slam event.

But here's an issue I've thought about: There are at least a handful of players with Italian names who play for France. Are more and more Italians going over and training in France, or what? Are they losing their homegrown talent over this? Just wondering.

Renaud
07-27-2012, 06:29 PM
:secret: Panatta Won RG 76

jjc225
07-27-2012, 06:31 PM
:secret: Panatta Won RG 76

You're right. Missed that one.

Lugburz
07-27-2012, 06:31 PM
:secret: Panatta Won RG 76

case closed. :p

Travod
07-27-2012, 06:36 PM
I know WTA doesn't count anywhere it seems (even on tennisforum.com, lol) but Schiavone won like two years ago.

tommyg6
07-27-2012, 06:37 PM
case closed. :p

Ok Ok. let me rephrase that, how come Italy has won only 1 Slam in History?

motorhead
07-27-2012, 06:38 PM
epic fail of the highest order in here.

motorhead
07-27-2012, 06:39 PM
:secret: :haha:

bry17may
07-27-2012, 06:42 PM
In open era 1, but in history 3, 2 by Nicola Pietrangeli In RG

Helevorn
07-27-2012, 06:43 PM
1. Everyone plays soccer here.
2. Italian players, in general, suck.

TigerTim
07-27-2012, 06:45 PM
Panatta beat Borg on his way to winning RG = Goat

motorhead
07-27-2012, 06:49 PM
http://www.tennismagazineitalia.it/wildcard/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/1.jpg

uxyzapenje
07-27-2012, 06:54 PM
Ok Ok. let me rephrase that, how come Italy has won only 1 Slam in History?

And how many did France win? Also 1. Croatia, Austria, Netherlands also 1.

And Serbia and Switzerland only have more due to 2 guys (1 per country), and that's Fed and Novak. It's not like those naighboors produce Grand Slam champions left and right (apart from Spain). And your logic is good in toery, but just look at Sweden that had Bord, Edberg and Wilander (And Johansson :rolleyes:). It's not like there are good conditions, they were just lucky to have those guys. Czechs also with Lendl and Kodes

Helevorn
07-27-2012, 07:04 PM
But here's an issue I've thought about: There are at least a handful of players with Italian names who play for France. Are more and more Italians going over and training in France, or what? Are they losing their homegrown talent over this? Just wondering.

Many Italian players practice (and live) in foreign countries with foreign trainers (this is pretty common for many nations), but that issue of the Italian surnames in nations such as France is decades and centuries older (http://circe.univ-paris3.fr/ITALIENS-sources.pdf), and the 7% of the French population is of Italian origins.. but I don't think that players such as Mannarino, Razzano, Inzerillo etc. feel Italian at all (or, at least, I hope it for them! :D). And many surnames such as Bartoli or Serra, although they sound Italian (and actually Serra is greatly spread in Italy), are often of Spanish descent.

The Fearhand
07-27-2012, 07:09 PM
Silly thread.

superslam77
07-27-2012, 07:11 PM
Ok Ok. let me rephrase that, how come Italy has won only 1 Slam in History?

:confused:
that's 10


singles
1959 French Championships Nicola Pietrangeli
1960 French Championships Nicola Pietrangeli
1976 French Championships Adriano Panatta
2010 French Championships Francesca Schiavone


doubles
1959 French Championships Nicola Pietrangeli-Orlando Sirola
2007 French Championships Alicia Molik-Mara Santangelo
2011 Australian Open Gisela Dulko-Flavia Pennetta
2012 French Championships Sara Errani-Italy Roberta Vinci

mixed doubles
1958 French Championships Nicola Pietrangeli-Shirley Bloomer
1986 US Open Raffaella Reggi-Sergio Casal

do you mean in males singles open era?

like everyone said italians play waaaay too many sports in which they are goat but mostly footie. the country isn't nearly as big as others as well.

superslam77
07-27-2012, 07:24 PM
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tommyg6
07-27-2012, 07:26 PM
males in singles open era

superslam77
07-27-2012, 07:33 PM
nicola pietrangeli is the goat in italy anyways.

the promise is this guy who hopefully will be schooling raonic soon :devil:

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BigJohn
07-27-2012, 07:38 PM
too much pasta?

Vinceremo
07-27-2012, 07:41 PM
A lot of good points in this thread but obviously the lack of interest in the sport (talking specifically about tennis) from the kids, and people in general, has plenty to do with it. Football's the main and most popular sport by far, it's just rare and too uncommon to see kids preferring to practice tennis over it. With at least a slight goal to go pro, that's what I'm saying.

The development of the sport is a big issue too, like it was mentioned earlier, it's more and more usual to see plenty of our players training and living in other countries. Lots of juniors are heading that way favouring Argentina, Spain for example were there are better coaches, etc.

On a side note, there's a chance we can end the year with 7 players in the top 100. Not too bad even if some maybe don't belong there based on their level :p

TigerTim
07-27-2012, 07:54 PM
Better than Great Britain anyways.

daddy
07-27-2012, 08:39 PM
They say two shortest books in the world are Ethiopian cookbook and Italian book of Heros.

Time Violation
07-27-2012, 09:02 PM
Well, not many countries at the moment are doing great regularly producing GS winners, if any? I don't think there'll be another Djokovic from Serbia, same goes for Swiss and Federer. Everybody says Spain, but take away Nadal and Spain's GS tally in the last decade would be 2 if I'm not mistaken. US is the most consistent there, but even they struggle to find a new face now, the best players are all around 30 yrs old :)

Kiedis
07-27-2012, 09:06 PM
^^ Gimeno, Santana, Orantes, Bruguera, Costa, Ferrero, Moyá and Nadal is not bad for a smaller country than Italy. With regard to tennis paella owns spaghetti.

Orange Wombat
07-27-2012, 09:35 PM
2. Italian players, in general, suck.

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20100528/sports/images/gleaneragm300x100.jpg

http://images.supersport.com/Andreas%20Seppi-lip-111110-bg.jpg

superslam77
07-27-2012, 09:40 PM
^^ Gimeno, Santana, Orantes, Bruguera, Costa, Ferrero, Moyá and Nadal is not bad for a smaller country than Italy. With regard to tennis paella owns spaghetti.

:eek: in what map?

Kiedis
07-27-2012, 09:44 PM
:eek: in what map?

I'm talking about population (60 vs 45), of course, because rivers and mountains don't play tennis.

superslam77
07-27-2012, 10:07 PM
I'm talking about population (60 vs 45), of course, because rivers and mountains don't play tennis.

because everyone of those people play tennis :rolleyes:
you would have to see number of tennis courts and people actually interested :wavey:

Whiznot
07-27-2012, 11:41 PM
Italy has produced a slam winner, Adriano Panatta

Hian-GOAT
07-31-2012, 02:28 PM
1. Everyone plays soccer here.
2. Italian players, in general, suck.

That's why Schiavone won RG two years ago and reached the final the year after, while Panatta won the same tournament, too :spit:

Hian-GOAT
07-31-2012, 02:31 PM
too much pasta?

The same you eat, along with pizza.
What has Canada done, except for a big amount of shit? :confused:

LaFuria
07-31-2012, 03:07 PM
Italy is very good at fencing though!

Young 8
07-31-2012, 04:03 PM
I'm talking about population (60 vs 45), of course, because rivers and mountains don't play tennis.

45 ??

stewietennis
08-01-2012, 01:37 AM
45 ??

Only 45 people in Spain don'cha know

AsianSensation
08-01-2012, 04:58 AM
Fognini will be added to the list soon.

Armless
08-01-2012, 05:00 AM
Gianluigi Quinzi will win multiple Slams. You can count on it.