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Tennis Tipping Bastad - welcome to North Europe

dinkulpus
06-20-2012, 11:26 AM
Tennis Tipping – Bastad

What is Tennis Tipping?

In the game, participants pick the winners of all main draw matches and are placed in a knock-out system. That means each participant plays a different participant and whoever predicted the winner of most matches correctly, moves on to the next round. The same applies for doubles, but you're in a team format and your scores are combined.

Note:

- In case of a tie, a tie-breaker will decide who moves on to the next round.

- In case a player (i.e. the actual ATP Player) retires in a match, this match will be counted as long as one point has been played. If players are replaced by a lucky loser after the start of Tennis Tipping, these matches will be cancelled.

How to Sign-Up:

Just post here that you would like to play. You can only play one tournament per week. Entries will be based on ranking. Everyone can commit. :D

Please read this post for more information
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4423014&postcount=1

How to send in picks:

Picks can be sent in as soon as the draws are ready. Remember, you pick a winner in every match! Picks should be sent by PM, so that your opponent does not know your picks. Picks should be titled: [TT: Bastad, day #]. Picks can be sent in anytime until the beginning of play each day. If you're still in both singles & doubles, you use the same tips for both. For doubles, you still tip the ATP singles matches, not the doubles! No changes can be made after the play has started.

PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE

If the board goes down as has happened before, send your picks to mmarto193@abv.bg

dinkulpus
06-20-2012, 11:29 AM
Fact Sheet

Location: Bastad, Sweden
Type: ATP 250
Surface: Outdoor Clay
Date: July 9nd - July 16th, 2012
Tournament website:

1st Singles Entry Deadline: Sunday, July 1st, 6:00 pm CEST
Period for changes and doubles commitments: Sunday, July 1st, 6:01 pm CEST – Friday, July 6th, 6:00 pm CET
Draw size for singles: 32 (26 direct entries, 2 SEs, 4 qualy spots, 16 player qualy draw)
Draw size for doubles: 16 (14 direct entries, 2 qualy spots, 8 team qualy draw)
Time of the draw: QD Friday 6:00 pm CET, MDS Sunday 3:00 pm CET, MDD Sunday 3:30 pm CET
Assistant manager: none

dinkulpus
06-20-2012, 11:32 AM
Entry Lists - All rankings from 25.06.2012


Entry Lists (to post 50)

TT Singles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 TankingTheSet (NED) 9 (2043)
02 Blarghman (CAN) 19 (1516)
03 ZackBusner (GER) 22 (1455)
04 Sheva (NED) 26 (1363)
05 Wojtek (POL) 31 (1291)
06 guille&tati4life (GBR) 34 (1230)
07 Peta Pan (AUS) 38 (1185)
08 Björki (GER) 39 (1180)
09 Gavnich77 (GBR) 40 (1173)
10 KittyTennis (USA) 49 (1106)
11 Boarder35m (GER) 55 (994)
12 diego36arg (ARG) 70 (815)
13 Pauchis (ARG) 73 (772)
14 kr1s71an (BUL) 76 (746)
15 Ricardo Soler (BRA) 78 (732)
16 Renaud (KAZ) 80 (728)
17 Duncan (ZIM) 82 (699)
18 YEBRA (ESP) 83 (693)
19 Cazorla (UKR) 84 (687)
20 RezNik (UKR) 87 (670)
21 JeffCandoi (BRA) 96 (618)
22 Elmo Jr (BRA) 100 (566)
23 wtatourfan (BRA) 108 (526)
24 ostm89 (USA) 134 (403)
25 Sander. (NED) 144 (377)
26 Rafael Fernando (BRA) 157 (336)
27 SE
28 SE
29 Q
30 Q
31 Q
32 Q


TT Singles Qualifying Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 Djalma (BRA) 169 (295)
02 Action Jackson (ICE) 202 (214)
03 dannyrafter (BRA) 211 (203)
04 Baink (POL) 214 (193)
05 JMG (MON) 217 (189)
06 Rafael Reis (BRA) 238 (117)
07 Guibrugnara (BRA) 252 (98)
08 doctorlopes (FRA) 280 (61)
09 edg (XXX) NR LE (0)







TT Doubles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 Björki/Peta Pan (GER/AUS) 11 + 14 = 25 (2705 + 2634 = 5339)
02 Sheva/Gavnich77 (NED/GBR) 12 + 30 = 42 (2684 + 2084 = 4768)
03 Djalma/wtatourfan (BRA) 33 + 34 = 67 (1999 + 1999 = 3998)
04 ZackBusner/TankingTheSet (GER/NED) 31 + 48 = 79 (2075 + 1699 = 3774)
05 Blarghman/Pauchis (CAN/ARG) 29 + 78 = 107 (2085 + 1338 = 3423)
06 JeffCandoi/Duncan (BRA/ZIM) 53 + 61 = 114 (1542 + 1492 = 3034)
07 Boarder35m/diego36arg (GER/ARG) 63 + 63 = 126 (1475 + 1475 = 2950)
08 kr1s71an/YEBRA (BUL/ESP) 67 + 76 = 143 (1440 + 1351 = 2791)
09 dannyrafter/Ricardo Soler (BRA) 94 + 94 = 188 (1077 + 1077 = 2154)
10 Elmo Jr/Rafael Fernando (BRA) 120 + 161 = 281 ( 795 + 529 = 1324)
11 Rafael Reis/doctorlopes (BRA/FRA) 284 + 285 = 569 ( 48 + 48 = 96)



Players free for doubles
- KittyTennis = 81
- guille&tati4life = 125
- JMG = 143
- Renaud = 156
- RezNik = 176
- Sander. = 210
- Cazorla = 226
- Wojtek = 250
- Guibrugnara = 265
- ostm89 = NR
- Action Jackson = NR
- Baink = NR
- edg = NR

dinkulpus
06-20-2012, 11:33 AM
Singles Draw

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dinkulpus
06-20-2012, 11:34 AM
Doubles Draw

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dinkulpus
06-20-2012, 11:35 AM
Schedule of Play


TT SCHEDULE

SINGLES:

Saturday ~ TT Q1 & (Q2)
Sunday ~ TT Qualy Final Round
Monday ~ TT R32
Tuesday ~ TT R16
Wednesday & Thursday ~ TT QF
Friday ~ TT SF
Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final

DOUBLES:

Saturday ~ TT Q1 & (Q2)
Sunday ~ TT Qualy Final Round
Monday & Tuesday ~ TT R16
Wednesday & Thursday ~ TT QF
Friday ~ TT SF
Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final


Sunday

Saturday

Friday

Thursday

Wednesday

Tuesday

Monday

Qualy Sunday

Qualy Saturday


EXPLANATION:

Match with nothing after it's name - Just pick the winner
Match with SR after it's name - Pick the winner and the sets (Ex: Arthurs 2-1)
Match with PTS after it's name - Pick the whole score (Ex: Arthurs 6:7 7:6 6:1)

dinkulpus
06-20-2012, 11:36 AM
You can commit now, other tournament this week , 3 ATP 250 + one CH 120pts. :p



09/07/2012 Newport GR 32/16/16/8 Direnan
09/07/2012 Stuttgart CL 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
09/07/2012 Umag CL 32/16/16/8 rvugt
09/07/2012 Bogota CH* CL 32/16/16/8 AdeyC

Wojtek
06-20-2012, 08:08 PM
in

ZackBusner
06-20-2012, 11:29 PM
in

Cazorla
06-21-2012, 07:24 PM
in

wtatourfan
06-22-2012, 03:35 AM
in
doubles with Djalma

guille&tati4life
06-22-2012, 01:31 PM
in

Taz Warrior
06-22-2012, 03:34 PM
In

Björki
06-22-2012, 05:15 PM
in

Djalma
06-22-2012, 10:18 PM
in
doubles with Djalma

in singles, doubles confirmed.

Renaud
06-22-2012, 10:25 PM
In :)

dannyrafter
06-23-2012, 01:12 AM
Singles and Doubles with Ricardo Soler

Ricardo Soler
06-23-2012, 01:13 AM
Singles and Doubles with Ricardo Soler


IN SINGLES AND DOUBLES CONFIRMED

JMG
06-23-2012, 09:26 AM
In

Sheva
06-24-2012, 11:05 PM
IN

Looking for a doubles partner. PM-me if you're interested. :secret:

ostm89
06-25-2012, 01:10 AM
in please

JeffCandoi
06-26-2012, 12:39 PM
in, doubles with Duncan

TankingTheSet
06-26-2012, 08:36 PM
In.

Action Jackson
06-27-2012, 11:11 AM
Hope I make the qualie draw and yes I am in here.

Taz Warrior
06-28-2012, 09:23 AM
Doubles with Sheva :yeah:

Guibrugnara
06-28-2012, 07:55 PM
In singles, Doubles just confirm.

Blarghman
06-29-2012, 04:19 AM
In, please :)

Sander.
06-29-2012, 10:49 AM
In for singles.

dinkulpus
06-29-2012, 01:50 PM
Entry Lists

TT Singles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 TankingTheSet (NED) 9 (2043)
02 Blarghman (CAN) 19 (1516)
03 ZackBusner (GER) 22 (1455)
04 Sheva (NED) 26 (1363)
05 Wojtek (POL) 31 (1291)
06 guille&tati4life (GBR) 34 (1230)
07 Björki (GER) 39 (1180)
08 Gavnich77 (GBR) 40 (1173)
09 Ricardo Soler (BRA) 78 (732)
10 Renaud (KAZ) 80 (728)
11 Cazorla (UKR) 84 (687)
12 JeffCandoi (BRA) 96 (618)
13 wtatourfan (BRA) 108 (526)
14 ostm89 (USA) 134 (403)
15 Sander. (NED) 144 (377)
16 Djalma (BRA) 169 (295)
17 Action Jackson (ICE) 202 (214)
18 dannyrafter (BRA) 211 (203)
19 JMG (MON) 217 (189)
20 Guibrugnara (BRA) 252 (98)
21 SE
22 SE




TT Doubles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 Sheva/Gavnich77 (NED/GBR) 12 + 30 = 42 (2684 + 2084 = 4768)
02 Djalma/wtatourfan (BRA) 33 + 34 = 67 (1999 + 1999 = 3998)
03 JeffCandoi/Duncan (BRA/ZIM) 53 + 61 = 114 (1542 + 1492 = 3034)
04 dannyrafter/Ricardo Soler (BRA) 94 + 94 = 188 (1077 + 1077 = 2154)




Players free for doubles
- Björki = 11
- Blarghman = 29
- ZackBusner = 31
- TankingTheSet = 48
- guille&tati4life = 125
- JMG = 143
- Renaud = 156
- Sander. = 210
- Cazorla = 226
- Wojtek = 250
- Guibrugnara = 265
- ostm89 = NR
- Action Jackson = NR

RezNik
06-30-2012, 08:38 AM
in

kr1s71an
06-30-2012, 04:10 PM
In for singles!
Doubles with YEBRA!

YEBRA
06-30-2012, 04:12 PM
In for singles!
Doubles with YEBRA!
In for singles. Doubles confirmed.

diego36arg
06-30-2012, 10:07 PM
In and doubles with Boarder35m

Boarder35m
06-30-2012, 10:11 PM
In and doubles with diego36arg :)

ZackBusner
06-30-2012, 10:15 PM
doubles anyone?

:wavey:

Elmo Jr
06-30-2012, 10:38 PM
in singles

Rafael Fernando
06-30-2012, 11:21 PM
in singles and doubles with Elmo Jr.

Rafael Fernando
06-30-2012, 11:22 PM
:worship:

Duncan
06-30-2012, 11:29 PM
In singles please

Doubles with jeffcandoi

TankingTheSet
06-30-2012, 11:41 PM
doubles anyone?

:wavey:

TankingTheSet/ZackBusner for doubles. :)

Pauchis
06-30-2012, 11:48 PM
In

Anyone for doubles?

KittyTennis
07-01-2012, 03:13 AM
In

Guibrugnara
07-01-2012, 04:17 AM
In

Anyone for doubles?

I'm free...

Peta Pan
07-01-2012, 06:38 AM
In please

Doubles with Björki :wavey:

ZackBusner
07-01-2012, 07:49 AM
TankingTheSet/ZackBusner for doubles. :)

:yeah:

Baink
07-01-2012, 09:17 AM
In :hatoff:

Rafael Reis
07-01-2012, 03:54 PM
In for singles and doubles with doctorlopes.

I commit my partner doctorlopes too. Thanks!

Blarghman
07-02-2012, 04:38 AM
Doubles with Pauchis

edg
07-02-2012, 09:35 AM
in

dinkulpus
07-02-2012, 08:45 PM
Entry Lists

TT Singles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 TankingTheSet (NED) 9 (2043)
02 Blarghman (CAN) 19 (1516)
03 ZackBusner (GER) 22 (1455)
04 Sheva (NED) 26 (1363)
05 Wojtek (POL) 31 (1291)
06 guille&tati4life (GBR) 34 (1230)
07 Peta Pan (AUS) 38 (1185)
08 Björki (GER) 39 (1180)
09 Gavnich77 (GBR) 40 (1173)
10 KittyTennis (USA) 49 (1106)
11 Boarder35m (GER) 55 (994)
12 diego36arg (ARG) 70 (815)
13 Pauchis (ARG) 73 (772)
14 kr1s71an (BUL) 76 (746)
15 Ricardo Soler (BRA) 78 (732)
16 Renaud (KAZ) 80 (728)
17 Duncan (ZIM) 82 (699)
18 YEBRA (ESP) 83 (693)
19 Cazorla (UKR) 84 (687)
20 RezNik (UKR) 87 (670)
21 JeffCandoi (BRA) 96 (618)
22 Elmo Jr (BRA) 100 (566)
23 wtatourfan (BRA) 108 (526)
24 ostm89 (USA) 134 (403)
25 Sander. (NED) 144 (377)
26 Rafael Fernando (BRA) 157 (336)
27 SE
28 SE
29 Q
30 Q
31 Q
32 Q


TT Singles Qualifying Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 Djalma (BRA) 169 (295)
02 Action Jackson (ICE) 202 (214)
03 dannyrafter (BRA) 211 (203)
04 Baink (POL) 214 (193)
05 JMG (MON) 217 (189)
06 Rafael Reis (BRA) 238 (117)
07 Guibrugnara (BRA) 252 (98)
08 doctorlopes (FRA) 280 (61)
09 edg (XXX) NR LE (0)







TT Doubles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 Björki/Peta Pan (GER/AUS) 11 + 14 = 25 (2705 + 2634 = 5339)
02 Sheva/Gavnich77 (NED/GBR) 12 + 30 = 42 (2684 + 2084 = 4768)
03 Djalma/wtatourfan (BRA) 33 + 34 = 67 (1999 + 1999 = 3998)
04 ZackBusner/TankingTheSet (GER/NED) 31 + 48 = 79 (2075 + 1699 = 3774)
05 Blarghman/Pauchis (CAN/ARG) 29 + 78 = 107 (2085 + 1338 = 3423)
06 JeffCandoi/Duncan (BRA/ZIM) 53 + 61 = 114 (1542 + 1492 = 3034)
07 Boarder35m/diego36arg (GER/ARG) 63 + 63 = 126 (1475 + 1475 = 2950)
08 kr1s71an/YEBRA (BUL/ESP) 67 + 76 = 143 (1440 + 1351 = 2791)
09 dannyrafter/Ricardo Soler (BRA) 94 + 94 = 188 (1077 + 1077 = 2154)
10 Elmo Jr/Rafael Fernando (BRA) 120 + 161 = 281 ( 795 + 529 = 1324)
11 Rafael Reis/doctorlopes (BRA/FRA) 284 + 285 = 569 ( 48 + 48 = 96)



Players free for doubles
- KittyTennis = 81
- guille&tati4life = 125
- JMG = 143
- Renaud = 156
- RezNik = 176
- Sander. = 210
- Cazorla = 226
- Wojtek = 250
- Guibrugnara = 265
- ostm89 = NR
- Action Jackson = NR
- Baink = NR
- edg = NR

Shaddad
07-03-2012, 03:53 AM
in
double with andyroddlick

Marto,I am glad to know that you have got well.^_^

andyroddlick
07-03-2012, 07:11 AM
in
double with shaddad

dinkulpus
07-03-2012, 09:01 AM
in
double with andyroddlick

Marto,I am glad to know that you have got well.^_^

Тhanks and welcome to Bastad :wavey:

lolada_4
07-03-2012, 12:36 PM
I´m in as LE
Anyone for doubles?

Renaud
07-03-2012, 06:09 PM
I´m in as LE
Anyone for doubles?
Doubles with lolada_4 :wavey:

jervisjames
07-04-2012, 08:06 AM
In please and anyone for doubles just confirm!

portinzin
07-04-2012, 08:56 AM
in doubles with jervisjames

Mesut Ozil
07-04-2012, 08:55 PM
In

lolada_4
07-05-2012, 01:09 AM
Doubles with lolada_4 :wavey:

I´m so sorry :( But Mesut Ozil talked with me before by PM :(
Many apologies for the inconvenience :sad::sad::sad:, I hope one day (soon) play with you it will be a plasure :worship:

lolada_4
07-05-2012, 01:10 AM
Doubles with Mesut Ozil

juakos17
07-05-2012, 05:08 AM
In singles

Anyone for doubles? please confirm :D

sfar
07-05-2012, 07:41 AM
In as LE. Doubles with supertec.

dinkulpus
07-05-2012, 09:52 AM
Entry Lists

TT Singles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 TankingTheSet (NED) 9 (2043)
02 Blarghman (CAN) 19 (1516)
03 ZackBusner (GER) 22 (1455)
04 Sheva (NED) 26 (1363)
05 Wojtek (POL) 31 (1291)
06 guille&tati4life (GBR) 34 (1230)
07 Peta Pan (AUS) 38 (1185)
08 Björki (GER) 39 (1180)
09 Gavnich77 (GBR) 40 (1173)
10 KittyTennis (USA) 49 (1106)
11 Boarder35m (GER) 55 (994)
12 diego36arg (ARG) 70 (815)
13 Pauchis (ARG) 73 (772)
14 kr1s71an (BUL) 76 (746)
15 Ricardo Soler (BRA) 78 (732)
16 Renaud (KAZ) 80 (728)
17 Duncan (ZIM) 82 (699)
18 YEBRA (ESP) 83 (693)
19 Cazorla (UKR) 84 (687)
20 RezNik (UKR) 87 (670)
21 JeffCandoi (BRA) 96 (618)
22 Elmo Jr (BRA) 100 (566)
23 wtatourfan (BRA) 108 (526)
24 ostm89 (USA) 134 (403)
25 Sander. (NED) 144 (377)
26 Rafael Fernando (BRA) 157 (336)
27 SE
28 SE
29 Q
30 Q
31 Q
32 Q


TT Singles Qualifying Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 Djalma (BRA) 169 (295)
02 Action Jackson (ICE) 202 (214)
03 dannyrafter (BRA) 211 (203)
04 Baink (POL) 214 (193)
05 JMG (MON) 217 (189)
06 Rafael Reis (BRA) 238 (117)
07 Guibrugnara (BRA) 252 (98)
08 doctorlopes (FRA) 280 (61)
09 juakos17 (CHI) 74 LE (751)
10 lolada_4 (POR) 126 LE (422)
11 sfar (POR) 135 LE (402)
12 Shaddad (CHN) 158 LE (334)
13 jervisjames (AUS) 161 LE (319)
14 Mesut Ozil (POR) 215 LE (193)
15 andyroddlick (CHN) 233 LE (143)
16 edg (XXX) NR LE (0)


TT Singles Alternates (Rankings from 25-06-2012)

ALT01 portinzin (XXX) NR LE (0)




TT Doubles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 25-06-2012)
01 Björki/Peta Pan (GER/AUS) 11 + 14 = 25 (2705 + 2634 = 5339)
02 Sheva/Gavnich77 (NED/GBR) 12 + 30 = 42 (2684 + 2084 = 4768)
03 Djalma/wtatourfan (BRA) 33 + 34 = 67 (1999 + 1999 = 3998)
04 ZackBusner/TankingTheSet (GER/NED) 31 + 48 = 79 (2075 + 1699 = 3774)
05 Blarghman/Pauchis (CAN/ARG) 29 + 78 = 107 (2085 + 1338 = 3423)
06 JeffCandoi/Duncan (BRA/ZIM) 53 + 61 = 114 (1542 + 1492 = 3034)
07 Boarder35m/diego36arg (GER/ARG) 63 + 63 = 126 (1475 + 1475 = 2950)
08 kr1s71an/YEBRA (BUL/ESP) 67 + 76 = 143 (1440 + 1351 = 2791)
09 dannyrafter/Ricardo Soler (BRA) 94 + 94 = 188 (1077 + 1077 = 2154)
10 sfar/supertec (POR/ESP) 97 + 106 = 203 (1007 + 915 = 1922)
11 Elmo Jr/Rafael Fernando (BRA) 120 + 161 = 281 ( 795 + 529 = 1324)
12 andyroddlick/Shaddad (CHN) 219 + 220 = 439 ( 243 + 243 = 486)
13 lolada_4/Mesut Ozil (POR) 171 + 289 = 460 ( 478 + 42 = 520)
14 Rafael Reis/doctorlopes (BRA/FRA) 284 + 285 = 569 ( 48 + 48 = 96)
15 jervisjames/portinzin (AUS/XXX) 109 + NR = 109NR ( 898 + 0 = 898)



Players free for doubles
- KittyTennis = 81
- guille&tati4life = 125
- JMG = 143
- Renaud = 156
- RezNik = 176
- Sander. = 210
- Cazorla = 226
- Wojtek = 250
- juakos17 = 260
- Guibrugnara = 265
- ostm89 = NR
- Action Jackson = NR
- Baink = NR
- edg = NR

supertec
07-05-2012, 10:58 AM
In as LE. Doubles with sfar confirmed.

Renaud
07-05-2012, 02:06 PM
In singles

Anyone for doubles? please confirm :D
Doubles with juakos17 confirmed. :)

Guibrugnara
07-05-2012, 03:34 PM
Anyone for doubles? please confirm

JMG
07-06-2012, 08:57 AM
Doubles with Guibrugnara

orangehat
07-06-2012, 11:29 AM
I'll start a new topic and post from there :wavey:

This makes it easier for me to update the first page. Please post further commitments in that thread.