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Top 5 Players on Fast courts?

Bayyyy
06-10-2012, 04:18 AM
Mine are:
1. Federer
2. Djokovic
3. Del Potro
4. Murray
5. Nadal

Clay Death
06-10-2012, 04:20 AM
why is murray rated higher than the clay monster?

does he not have 2 slams on hard courts?

does he not school murray at wimbledon?

i could go on but you get the picture.

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 04:27 AM
if we were to go by ranking points on fast surfaces we would easily see the rankings look like this

1. Everyone - 0 Points

We really need to get some fast surfaces so we can know

J99
06-10-2012, 04:39 AM
if we were to go by ranking points on fast surfaces we would easily see the rankings look like this

1. Everyone - 0 Points

We really need to get some fast surfaces so we can know

What are you talking about, they have played some fast surfaces already this year.

SerialKillerToBe
06-10-2012, 04:41 AM
1) Federer
2) Djokovic
3) Tsonga
4) Murray
5) Del Potro

Freak3yman84
06-10-2012, 04:43 AM
1.Federer
2.Djokovic
3.Nadal
4.Tsonga
5.Berdych

BauerAlmeida
06-10-2012, 04:47 AM
Right now:

1-Djokovic
2-Nadal

These two are the best everywhere. Prime Fed would beat them probably, but not this Fed.

3-Federer
4-Del Potro
5-Berdych
6-Tsonga
7-Murray

Clay Death
06-10-2012, 04:57 AM
i am expecting a lot from d-pot at the u.s. open. he has to deliver.

hard courts will probably end up being his best surface when all is said done.

he does have to improve his transition game. net game needs to improve a lot.

Mjau!
06-10-2012, 04:59 AM
Rogi
Nole
Delpo
Andy
Jo

BroTree123
06-10-2012, 05:01 AM
1. Nadal
2. Nadal
3. Nadal
4. Nadal
5. Nadal

Topspindoctor
06-10-2012, 05:03 AM
1)Donald Young
2)Ryan Harrison
3)Grigor Dimitrov
4)Marko Djokovic
5)Serena Williams

Clay Death
06-10-2012, 05:06 AM
anybody mentioned tsonga yet?

where does he stand?

BroTree123
06-10-2012, 05:07 AM
Tsonga's just shit everywhere. No consistency :o

Topspindoctor
06-10-2012, 05:08 AM
Tsonga's just shit everywhere. No consistency :o

He's consistent at being a clown that's for sure :o

theseth1119
06-10-2012, 05:10 AM
If any of you seriously think #1 isn't Rogie, then you're fooling yourselves. Rogie has 20 indoor titles alone (20-8 record in indoor events, mostly hardcourts, some carpet events earlier on in his career). 51 hardcourt titles overall and 11 grass court titles , and 2 carpet titles overall (that's 64 of Rogie's 74 titles, the other 10 being on clay courts). Rogie totally dominates on the faster surfaces and wallops opponents with his awesome serve and shortening the points/rallies. Come the end of the year, also early year (i.e. Rotterdam) indoors hardcourt fast-speed events, Rogie takes the cake (i.e. won his last 7 finals: 2010 Stockholm, Basel, and WTF; 2011 Basel, Paris, and WTF; and 2012 Rotterdam.

J99
06-10-2012, 05:13 AM
How fast does the surface have to be, are you talking only indoors, or some outdoors as well?

Chase Visa
06-10-2012, 05:31 AM
1. Federer (any guy who doesn't have him at #1...)
2. Djokovic
3. Berdych
4. Tsonga
5. Murray

Action Jackson
06-10-2012, 06:53 AM
There aren't any fast surfaces.

Chirag
06-10-2012, 08:05 AM
agree with serve ,we really need some fast surface

Pirata.
06-10-2012, 09:31 AM
What counts as fast? Handful of 250s, Memphis, Bercy and Cincinnati are pretty much the only fast events left on tour.

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 09:36 AM
fast is when the ball hits the court and friction speeds it up :lol:

Chase Visa
06-10-2012, 10:07 AM
Madrid was fairly quick no?

Moozza
06-10-2012, 10:15 AM
1. Federer (any guy who doesn't have him at #1...)
2. Djokovic
3. Berdych
4. Tsonga
5. Murray

Is this list serious?
Murray has 8 HC masters and 3 slam finals which is more than Berdych and Tsonga put together. How can he be below them?
Nadal also has a couple of slams on hardcourts, there is no way Tsonga and Berdych are better than him.

Federer in 2
06-10-2012, 10:17 AM
Federer
Djokovic
Nadal
Murray
Berdych

Anybody who doesn't have Nadal here is just...

J99
06-10-2012, 08:20 PM
This is what I posted on another board:

Indoor HC top 5:

1.Federer
2.Soderling (when healthy)
3.Djokovic
4.Tsonga
5.del Potro and Raonic

Outdoor HC top 5:

1.Djokovic
2.Federer
3.Murray
4.Nadal
5.del Potro

rocketassist
06-10-2012, 08:27 PM
Murray and Federer you'd say, given they are the only guys to win Cincinnati in recent years (the only actual fast 'big' tournament they play!)

Mark Lenders
06-10-2012, 08:29 PM
Murray?! You guys like really think that no-serve and no-forehand Murray would benefit from fast courts? If he can't run down every ball, he will suffer greatly.

TigerTim
06-10-2012, 08:29 PM
1. Federer
2. Murray
3 = Berdych
3 = Tsonga
5. Novak/Nadal

TigerTim
06-10-2012, 08:31 PM
Murray?! You guys like really think that no-serve and no-forehand Murray would benefit from fast courts? If he can't run down every ball, he will suffer greatly.

Murray benefits from faster surfaces. His first serve is impressive when percentages are high (see win vs. Nole at Dubai, not too fast but the right idea), his forehand is relatively flat and backhand immense, add a defensive serve that is arguably the best in the business and good net skills and you have an impressive faster courts player.

rocketassist
06-10-2012, 08:33 PM
Murray?! You guys like really think that no-serve and no-forehand Murray would benefit from fast courts? If he can't run down every ball, he will suffer greatly.

Murray prefers fast courts because he can flatten out the backhand, use the net more and use his slice to better effect, not to mention serve better. He beat Nadal at the USO playing 80% of the match on the much quicker Armstrong court.

He prefers a faster court for the same reasons Lleyton Hewitt (whose game is almost a carbon copy) did.

But yes faster courts would enable the likes of Soderling and Berdych to play their games and knock him over if they're on form. Which would be a nice thing, reward risk.

J99
06-10-2012, 08:34 PM
Murray?! You guys like really think that no-serve and no-forehand Murray would benefit from fast courts? If he can't run down every ball, he will suffer greatly.

Murray doesn't do so well indoors yes, but outdoors he's a beast.

TigerTim
06-10-2012, 08:35 PM
why doesn't Murray do well indoors ?

MaxPower
06-10-2012, 08:38 PM
This is what I posted on another board:

1.Federer
2.Soderling (when healthy)
3.Djokovic
4.Tsonga
5.del Potro and Raonic



I approve this list but not just for indoors but for all "fast" surfaces. Problem is there aren't that many left even indoors. Rotterdam used to be one of the few. Paris M1000 was also pretty fast.

Having a crap serve and being a top5 player on FAST courts? sorry that doesn't work. Nadals normal serve (not that mysterious USO 10 serve) would send him home in the early rounds on true fast courts. Must be why he avoids the last remaining fast court tournaments like the plague

Mark Lenders
06-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Murray prefers fast courts because he can flatten out the backhand, use the net more and use his slice to better effect, not to mention serve better. He beat Nadal at the USO playing 80% of the match on the much quicker Armstrong court.

He prefers a faster court for the same reasons Lleyton Hewitt (whose game is almost a carbon copy) did.

But yes faster courts would enable the likes of Soderling and Berdych to play their games and knock him over if they're on form. Which would be a nice thing, reward risk.

Fair enough. But as you said, he'd far more vulnerable to big hitting players. His lack of a dominant serve (too inconsistent) and forehand would be bound to catch up with him. Fast courts always rewarded a strong serve + forehand combo.

I'm not sure that, on the whole, Murray would be benefited by fast courts. He would maybe against Nadal and Djokovic, but would be far more vulnerable as well.