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Federer 19-16 in 5-Setters . .

Backhand_Maestro
06-08-2012, 04:24 PM
Not the best record, is it ?

GSMnadal
06-08-2012, 04:25 PM
Not quite

BroTree123
06-08-2012, 04:30 PM
Positive record is all that matters :rocker2:

TigerTim
06-08-2012, 04:38 PM
he once didn't need 5 sets

heya
06-08-2012, 04:56 PM
del potro matches were cringe inducing 5 setters. the tommy haas 2009 french open match was better because haas expected nothing.

BauerAlmeida
06-08-2012, 05:26 PM
Yeah, that's something I always thought. Federer in 5 setters is usually very poor. Of course that during his prime he didn't need 5 sets most of the time, but every time he played an important match and it went to 5 sets he lost (Of course not always, but a lot of times). Vs Nadal in Rome, vs Nalbandian in Shangai and Australia, vs Safin in Australia, vs Delpo at the USO, etc...and he even was in a winning position and all those matches or even have match points. That shows he is not mentally very strong, or at least not the in the same league as Nadal and Sampras for ej. (a post created some time ago comparing them and Agassi).

Jimnik
06-08-2012, 06:01 PM
Neither good nor bad. No story here.

Snowwy
06-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Usually he was too good to go to five sets.

Wilanderer
06-08-2012, 06:10 PM
Please, someone post that "Shut Up" GIF...

sexybeast
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
Not good at all for a GOAT, his weakness has always been his mental strength.

Compared to Djokovic, Nadal, Borg, Laver and Sampras this record looks absolutely terrible.

Silvester
06-08-2012, 06:14 PM
who cares?

Singularity
06-08-2012, 06:19 PM
And what about the fact that he has the best record in tiebreaks?

r3d_d3v1l_
06-08-2012, 06:21 PM
He was never known for his endurance. And given his style of play, this record is quite understandable. Itīs much harder for Federer to keep his high risk tennis in line instead of a more defensive game like Djokovicīs. and Nadalīs.

abraxas21
06-08-2012, 08:18 PM
choking mug

AntiTennis
06-08-2012, 08:24 PM
Uhm I think Roger was asked about this one time and he said something like when he was at his best, he didn't even need 5 sets to win, if not his record in 5 setters matches will be better :lol:

yesh222
06-08-2012, 10:39 PM
Hewitt had a great 5-set record until recently. It's dropped a bit now because he plays more five-setters and isn't as good, but in his day he was probably one of the best fifth-set players ever.

BodyServe
06-09-2012, 03:50 AM
He was never known for his endurance. And given his style of play, this record is quite understandable. Itīs much harder for Federer to keep his high risk tennis in line instead of a more defensive game like Djokovicīs. and Nadalīs.

Who are expected to tire because of running left and right so surely it should even things out.

chammer44
06-09-2012, 04:02 AM
Anyone Sampras's? He always struck me as mentally tough.

Clay Death
06-09-2012, 06:29 AM
is that really correct? i never knew he played that many 5 setters. also like snowwy says, he was too good in his prime to go 5 sets anyway.

that number seems high.


who has the best 5 set record? is it borg?

BroTree123
06-09-2012, 06:43 AM
is that really correct? i never knew he played that many 5 setters. also like snowwy says, he was too good in his prime to go 5 sets anyway.

that number seems high.


who has the best 5 set record? is it borg?

Clay warrior. So be happy :drink:

Clay Death
06-09-2012, 06:53 AM
are you sure general bro tree? it has to be borg.

it may even be nole.

BroTree123
06-09-2012, 06:55 AM
are you sure general bro tree? it has to be borg.

it may even be nole.

Look at this shit:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/01/Other/FedEx-Reliability-Fifth-Set-Records.aspx

Clay Death
06-09-2012, 06:59 AM
evidently krickstein was a monster in 5 set matches.

thanks for posting that info general bro tree.

clay monster and nole do well in 5 set matches.

BroTree123
06-09-2012, 07:01 AM
evidently krickstein was a monster in 5 set matches.

thanks for posting that info general bro tree.

clay monster and nole do well in 5 set matches.

Well? ONLY well? Sure you're not happy with the clay warrior but you're not giving him credit where it's due, old chap. He is to date the best five-set slugger in history so far.

Clay Death
06-09-2012, 07:08 AM
Well? ONLY well? Sure you're not happy with the clay warrior but you're not giving him credit where it's due, old chap. He is to date the best five-set slugger in history so far.



ok ok. i will cut him some slack.

he runs over uncle tony. he is not running over me. there is work to be done.

sicko
06-09-2012, 07:10 AM
Well? ONLY well? Sure you're not happy with the clay warrior but you're not giving him credit where it's due, old chap. He is to date the best five-set slugger in history so far.

nope. you have to add the AO loss to nole. but he is still the best current 5-setter. just ahead of nole by a tiny 0.6% (14/18 vs. 17/22)

BroTree123
06-09-2012, 07:12 AM
nope. you have to add the AO loss to nole. but he is still the best current 5-setter. just ahead of nole by a tiny 0.6% (14/18 vs. 17/22)

:stupid:

What's your point?

156mphserve
06-09-2012, 07:14 AM
Look at this shit:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/01/Other/FedEx-Reliability-Fifth-Set-Records.aspx

yes, why not look at a story from 2011 :stupid:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-5th-Set-Record-Career-List.aspx

Nadal is 4th:wavey:

sicko
06-09-2012, 07:16 AM
:stupid:

What's your point?

in the statistic you showed nadal's 5-set AO loss wasn't counted.

BroTree123
06-09-2012, 07:24 AM
yes, why not look at a story from 2011 :stupid:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-5th-Set-Record-Career-List.aspx

Nadal is 4th:wavey:

Oh shit balls.

2003
06-09-2012, 08:02 AM
Yeah but he won crucial ones that others perhaps wouldnt have.

2009 FO Hass/Delpo
2009 AO Berdych
2012 FO Delpo
I think there was one too at the 2008 US Open run which really turned his form around.
Hass 06 AO.

Im sure there are others.

Difference between holding perhaps 12 slams and 16.

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 04:36 AM
yep that French Open 2012 QF 5 set win was huge, got him to the semis so he could be straight setted by Nole

wasn't that important. His QF streak was still intact if he loses it, SF/QF what's the difference in the long run? Who even cares?

BauerAlmeida
06-10-2012, 04:41 AM
Yeah but he won crucial ones that others perhaps wouldnt have.

2009 FO Hass/Delpo
2009 AO Berdych
2012 FO Delpo
I think there was one too at the 2008 US Open run which really turned his form around.
Hass 06 AO.

Im sure there are others.

Difference between holding perhaps 12 slams and 16.

But if he was better at 5 setters instead of 16 he would have like 20+.

-Vs Delpo in the USO 2009, vs Safin in AO 2005, vs Nalbandian AO 2003, vs Nadal AO 2009 and Wimbledon 2008, vs Djokovic USO 2011 and 2010. All matches he could've won (had match points in some of them).

AntiTennis
06-10-2012, 07:12 AM
But if he was better at 5 setters instead of 16 he would have like 20+.

-Vs Delpo in the USO 2009, vs Safin in AO 2005, vs Nalbandian AO 2003, vs Nadal AO 2009 and Wimbledon 2008, vs Djokovic USO 2011 and 2010. All matches he could've won (had match points in some of them).
well he can't win all, he certainly lost a lof of close matches, but also won a lot of important matches, I remember Roger said that he could have much more than he has now, but also much less, so he is happy with what he got.