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2012 Wimbledon Seedings

dencod16
06-07-2012, 06:49 AM
This are only projected, seedings will be officially announced on July 20, 2012.
Add the following to a player's entry ATP points (the week before Wimbledon):

- 100% points earned for ALL grass court tournaments in the past 12 months.

- 75% points earned for BEST grass court tournament in the 12 months before that

WIMBLEDON SEEDINGS
Total 1 and Max 1 is for if they follow the 52 week
Total 2 and Max 2 is for if they adjust it for Ned and Eastbourne
Players in green have secured their seeding

Seedings are for Total 2

Sd Rk Total 1 Total 2
1 (1) Djokovic, Novak 14,820.00 14,820.00
2 (2) Nadal, Rafael 12,805.00 12,805.00
3 (3) Federer, Roger 10,150.00 10,150.00
4 (4) Murray, Andy 8,240.00 8,240.00
5 (5) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried 6,220.00 6,240.00
6 (7) Berdych, Tomas 5,810.00 5,810.00
7 (6) Ferrer, David 5,495.00 5,495.00
8 (8) Tipsarevic, Janko 3,342.50 3,492.50
9 (9) Del Potro, Juan Martin 3,375.00 3,375.00
10 (12) Fish, Mardy 3,082.50 3,082.50
11 (10) Isner, John 2,983.75 2,983.75
12 (11) Almagro, Nicolas 2,702.50 2,710.00
13 (13) Simon, Gilles 2,682.50 2,682.50
14 (17) Lopez, Feliciano 2,172.50 2,172.50
15 (14) Monaco, Juan 2,125.00 2,125.00
- (15) Monfils, Gael 2,030.00 2,030.00
16 (18) Cilic, Marin 1,948.75 1,948.75
17 (16) Verdasco, Fernando 1,843.75 1,843.75
18 (19) Gasquet, Richard 1,780.00 1,780.00
19 (20) Nishikori, Kei 1,677.50 1,709.00
20 (27) Tomic, Bernard 1,666.25 1,666.25
21 (22) Raonic, Milos 1,663.75 1,663.75
22 (20) Dolgopolov, Alexandr 1,628.75 1,662.50
23 (24) Seppi, Andreas 1,517.50 1,613.75
24 (23) Granollers, Marcel 1,583.75 1,583.75
25 (24) Wawrinka, Stanislas 1,557.50 1,557.50
26 (31) Youzhny, Mikhail 1,513.75 1,513.75
27 (30) Kohlschreiber, Philipp1,507.50 1,507.50
28 (25) Stepanek, Radek 1,428.75 1,455.00
29 (32) Benneteau, Julien 1,390.00 1,435.00
30 (33) Roddick, Andy 1,415.00 1,415.00
31 (28) Anderson, Kevin 1,345.00 1,365.00
32 (29) Mayer, Florian 1,362.50 1,362.50

viruzzz
06-07-2012, 07:08 AM
Not so much difference this time.
I remember at Wimbledon 2010, when Nadal surpassed Fed in the ranking, Fed was still number one seed, because of Rafa not playing wimbledon the year before. That was so FOOKEEN crazy.

henke007
06-07-2012, 07:46 AM
Tipsy not being seeded 8 is good for tennis.

n8
06-07-2012, 07:52 AM
So Challenger points do count? This applies to Tomic, although he'll probably get a 17-24 seed anyway.

meigui1990
06-07-2012, 08:32 AM
As for the bonus in the 12 months prior to the last 12 months, they only count 75% points earned for the BEST grass court tournaments

romismak
06-07-2012, 09:38 AM
I donīt know to which date seeding will be made, but Tipsy had EAstbourne F - 150 points to add to his grass results and Delpo probably will be resting until Wimbledon, so i canīt see him get more points than Tipsy - i am telling you Tipsarevic will be No.8 seeded not Delpo-but still not so important, because Delpo was clearly 5x bigger threat at RG than at Wimbledon, this time top 4 guys pray that Tsonga-Berdych wonīt end in their QF - i bet Nadal will have luck again and have Ferrer -Tipsy section in QF, i would like chances of both Tsonga and Berdych in QF - when grass is little bit quicker than in F and no pressure on those guys.

WhoCares
06-07-2012, 10:05 AM
Delpo getting seeded .8 will be good for tennis.

Ad Wim
06-07-2012, 10:14 AM
This is not definite, right? Seedings are made based on rankings one week prior to Wimbledon?

dencod16
06-07-2012, 11:22 AM
This is not definite, right? Seedings are made based on rankings one week prior to Wimbledon?

Yup it is not, still needs to count next weeks results.

MIMIC
06-07-2012, 11:25 AM
Federer is seeded SECOND? WTF

Renaud
06-07-2012, 11:28 AM
Federer is seeded SECOND? WTF
The op clearly indicates he would be 3rd seed :confused:

Renaud
06-07-2012, 11:31 AM
This is as of 6/6/2012
Followed the Rankings Points + 100% of grass points 52 weeks prior + 75% of grass points 52 weeks prior to the 52 weeks.

This is 75% of the BEST result on grass 52 weeks prior to the 52 weeks.

ServeVolley
06-07-2012, 11:33 AM
Federer is seeded SECOND? WTF

Where does it say that? :scratch:

He's #2 in the live ATP rankings... but even if he somehow won RG, that still wouldn't be enough to make him second seed at Wimbledon. :shrug:

Hewitt =Legend
06-07-2012, 11:35 AM
It will be a farce if B-Nard is not seeded in the 1-8 range after reaching the quarter finals last year. Only an unfair seeding will keep him from going further this year...

dencod16
06-07-2012, 11:53 AM
This is 75% of the BEST result on grass 52 weeks prior to the 52 weeks.

Thanks. Am i right its the players best tournament in grass for the 75%

TennistaR
06-07-2012, 12:08 PM
Roddick :O

mystic ice cube
06-07-2012, 12:16 PM
Is it possible we will see a different scenario than the usual Nadal-Murray, Djokovic-Federer potential semi-final seedings?

ServeVolley
06-07-2012, 12:38 PM
Is it possible we will see a different scenario than the usual Nadal-Murray, Djokovic-Federer potential semi-final seedings?

Probably not... but a Federer/Nadal semi would be interesting. I'd love to see Fed avenge his 08 loss and maybe play Murray in the final. :)

romismak
06-07-2012, 12:44 PM
Can you explain why you still have Delpo 8th and not Tipsy? Tipsy has 20 points more after RG - 3200 vs 3180

Delpo in 2011 - R4 Wimby- 180 points, and 20 points from Queens - 200 points to add for 2011
2010 - Delpo was out of the tour during grass season.... 0 points from 2010 - that means to his 3180 + 200 that meaasn 3380 points for Delpo

Tipsarevic - 3200 after RG, - Currently EAstbourne F - 150 points is counted in his ranking, but even if it wouldnīt in NON -countable he has the same F of 250 - Chennai - 150 points so he woń t loose in rankings anything and his Queens results are just like Potro in non-countable just 20 points, so he wonīt loose in raking now we must add to his 3200

3200 ranking + Wimby 1st round + 10 points - 150 points - Eastbourne F + 20 points Queens + 180 points together for 2011 thatīs exactly 3380 points just like Potro just with 2011

Now Tipsy 2010 grass best result F in Hertogenbosch - 150 points - 75ˇ% from that - 112.5 points - Tipsarevic will have more points than Del Potro, Delpo can go past him just to win or make F at Queens- but i think he wonīt play and if he will he is not that good on grass.

Tipsarevic will be No.8 seeded for Wimbledon

Fireballer
06-07-2012, 12:50 PM
Probably not... but a Federer/Nadal semi would be interesting. I'd love to see Fed avenge his 08 loss and maybe play Murray in the final. :)

like Murray can beat Djokovic LOL

dencod16
06-07-2012, 12:51 PM
Can you explain why you still have Delpo 8th and not Tipsy? Tipsy has 20 points more after RG - 3200 vs 3180

Delpo in 2011 - R4 Wimby- 180 points, and 20 points from Queens - 200 points to add for 2011
2010 - Delpo was out of the tour during grass season.... 0 points from 2010 - that means to his 3180 + 200 that meaasn 3380 points for Delpo

Tipsarevic - 3200 after RG, - Currently EAstbourne F - 150 points is counted in his ranking, but even if it wouldnīt in NON -countable he has the same F of 250 - Chennai - 150 points so he woń t loose in rankings anything and his Queens results are just like Potro in non-countable just 20 points, so he wonīt loose in raking now we must add to his 3200

3200 ranking + Wimby 1st round + 10 points - 150 points - Eastbourne F + 20 points Queens + 180 points together for 2011 thatīs exactly 3380 points just like Potro just with 2011

Now Tipsy 2010 grass best result F in Hertogenbosch - 150 points - 75ˇ% from that - 112.5 points - Tipsarevic will have more points than Del Potro, Delpo can go past him just to win or make F at Queens- but i think he wonīt play and if he will he is not that good on grass.

Tipsarevic will be No.8 seeded for Wimbledon

cause its 100% of a year before, and since Wimbledon is taking place a week after last year, means that his final last year at NED 2011 will count to his +75%. However, this are only projected, Wimbledon Committee might adjust the 52 week rule, if they adjust Tipsarevic will be 8.

mystic ice cube
06-07-2012, 12:51 PM
like Murray can beat Djokovic LOL
Yet he came within a point or two of beating him in the last grand slam LOL

TigerTim
06-07-2012, 12:52 PM
like Murray can beat Djokovic LOL

He has a decent chance on grass.

romismak
06-07-2012, 12:58 PM
cause its 100% of a year before, and since Wimbledon is taking place a week after last year, means that his final last year at NED 2011 will count to his +75%. However, this are only projected, Wimbledon Committee might adjust the 52 week rule, if they adjust Tipsarevic will be 8.

It will make no sense because of 1 week later schedule to didnīt count Queens-Halle- HErtogenbosch-Eastbourne like always 100% for last year and 2010 results 75%.

Looner
06-07-2012, 01:19 PM
He has a decent chance on grass.

I guess 2% is decent for Murray. That's how much of a chance I give him anyways. Gamewise he's got a good chance, in reality, no.

TigerTim
06-07-2012, 01:25 PM
I guess 2% is decent for Murray. That's how much of a chance I give him anyways. Gamewise he's got a good chance, in reality, no.

Be fair, I give 10% :), 7% for Novak to retire, 1% for Murray to play well and clutch and 2% for Novak to slip on a Banana in the warm up and play on injured - losing.

ServeVolley
06-07-2012, 01:27 PM
like Murray can beat Djokovic LOL

I have no doubt Murray can beat Djokovic at Wimbledon. In fact, I'd suggest he's the favourite (2 grass titles > 1, FYI). :D

GOAT = Fed
06-07-2012, 01:51 PM
Lol at people underrating Murray's grass game. You don't get to 3 SF at Wimby by being a mug :facepalm:

I sometimes wonder if most of MTF even watches tennis :facepalm:

Certinfy
06-07-2012, 02:05 PM
It will make no sense because of 1 week later schedule to didnīt count Queens-Halle- HErtogenbosch-Eastbourne like always 100% for last year and 2010 results 75%.
Yeah it'll be like this. Sucks because Tipsarevic as a top 8 seed is awful and at Wimbledon both Del Potro and Berdych got screwed with the seedings.

Eddy DoubleD
06-07-2012, 02:45 PM
I donīt know to which date seeding will be made, but Tipsy had EAstbourne F - 150 points to add to his grass results and Delpo probably will be resting until Wimbledon, so i canīt see him get more points than Tipsy - i am telling you Tipsarevic will be No.8 seeded not Delpo-but still not so important, because Delpo was clearly 5x bigger threat at RG than at Wimbledon, this time top 4 guys pray that Tsonga-Berdych wonīt end in their QF - i bet Nadal will have luck again and have Ferrer -Tipsy section in QF, i would like chances of both Tsonga and Berdych in QF - when grass is little bit quicker than in F and no pressure on those guys.

Let's not forget that Delpo put some pressure on Nadal last year. And he wasn't in a better form that today. But with his injuren knee, you are probably right. If it wasn't that.

Tomic's higher place is good, but it won't make a difference anyway as long as he can't make it in the first sixteen.

dencod16
06-08-2012, 03:43 PM
If the Wimby seedings are made exactly according to it's 52-104-weeks-rule, then Tipsarevic basically has to make up roughly 40 points on DelPotro at Queens to become 8th seeded at Wimby.
So, if DelPotro doesn't play Queens (or loses in the 1st round), the QF there would be enough already for Tipsarevic.
DelPotro 3180 + 100%x180 + 75%x 0 = 3360 (would need Queens-win to gain points (70) for his direct ATP ranking)
Tipsarevic 3200 + 100%x 10 + 75%x150 = 3322 (would need Queens-win to gain points (100) for his direct ATP ranking)

If the seedings are NOT made exactly according to the 52-104-weeks-rule (and Tipsarevic's Eastbourne'2011 was counted 100% and his Hertogenbosh'2010 75%), then Tipsarevic's situation was much better.
Tipsarevic 3200 + 100%x160 + 75%x150 = 3472
DelPotro 3180 + 100%x180 + 75%x 0 = 3360

...It would be nice to know already what seedings version will be used.


Thanks!

It will be nice to know.

dencod16
06-13-2012, 03:56 PM
I hope roddick will be seeded.

bounccer
06-13-2012, 03:59 PM
First week would be sooo exciting with 16 seeds.

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 04:19 PM
Lol at people underrating Murray's grass game. You don't get to 3 SF at Wimby by being a mug :facepalm:

I sometimes wonder if most of MTF even watches tennis :facepalm:

This. Murray also has the home crowd on his side.

You guys can hate on Murray if you want, but one of these days he's going to win a slam and you'll all be surprised when you shouldn't be. A couple years ago he went on a tear and was like 10-0 against Federer, Djokovic and Nadal. He has the game to beat these guys. He just never seems to put it together in important matches.

dencod16
06-13-2012, 04:28 PM
This. Murray also has the home crowd on his side.

You guys can hate on Murray if you want, but one of these days he's going to win a slam and you'll all be surprised when you shouldn't be. A couple years ago he went on a tear and was like 10-0 against Federer, Djokovic and Nadal. He has the game to beat these guys. He just never seems to put it together in important matches.

He has the game to win a slam no doubt, but he retreats to pushing which is not his game.

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 04:31 PM
He has the game to win a slam no doubt, but he retreats to pushing which is not his game.

I hear you. Murray does not do well under pressure situations IMO. He gets down on himself and he gets tentative instead of playing the type of game he is capable of. Put him in a smaller event where the stakes are lower and he plays so much better.

IMO, it's mental. If he finds a way to work through that and seize his opportunities in important moments, he will win a slam - probably more than one. If he doesn't, he'll be one of the most talented players to never win a slam. As a Murray fan, I hope he embraces his potential and chooses greatness.

dencod16
06-13-2012, 04:48 PM
Does this Wimby-seedings method refer exactly to 52/104 weeks, or to all grass tournaments of the previous 2 seasons?
I'm not just talking about the issue that the grass season is one week later this year,
but the seedings are made after Queens every year, so Queens/Halle of 2 years back wouldn't count if the rule says strictly 104 weeks.
...I didn't follow that so closely yet.


i don't think there has been a scenario where this has happened before. Their formula is 52/104 and not by seasons

Leo
06-13-2012, 05:32 PM
29 (26) Stepanek, Radek
30 (29) Benneteau, Julien
31 (28) Mayer, Florian
32 (30) Anderson, Kevin


:eek: This is a pretty tough group of 4 players for the Top 4 seeds, come R32. Could be interesting, no?

Roddick lucky to sneak in with a #28 seed as to avoid the big guys before the R16.

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 06:29 PM
Roddick is done. He'll be lucky to make the round of 16.

AnotherGameFor
06-13-2012, 06:43 PM
:eek: This is a pretty tough group of 4 players for the Top 4 seeds, come R32. Could be interesting, no?

Roddick lucky to sneak in with a #28 seed as to avoid the big guys before the R16.

Don't 25-32 randomly get someone 1-8?

Pratik
06-13-2012, 08:15 PM
1 Federer 9235
2 Nadal 4585
3 Roddick 3880
4 Nalbandian 3615
5 Ljubicic 3078.75
6 Hewitt 2592.5

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=83723

FedFan
06-13-2012, 09:46 PM
Ferrer should be seeded outside the top 8, otherwise we can be sure he gets his friend Nadal in the quarters.:rolleyes:

TigerTim
06-13-2012, 09:49 PM
Ferrer should be seeded outside the top 8, otherwise we can be sure he gets his friend Nadal in the quarters.:rolleyes:

I doubt he makes the quarters

FedFan
06-13-2012, 10:01 PM
I doubt he makes the quarters

Exactly, but then again the one that gets him in his draw would possibly have a much easier quarterfinal than others, who have to play against Tsonga, Berdych or Del Potro.

156mphserve
06-13-2012, 11:51 PM
Nope. 17-32 randomly gets 1-16

Nope. 17-24 randomly gets 9-16, and 25-32 randomly gets 1-8

dencod16
06-14-2012, 12:14 AM
People who don't know this how the seedings for grand slams works
R32: 1-8, draws 25-32 and 9-16, draws 17-24
R16: 1-4, draws 13-16 and 5-8, draws 9-12

156mphserve
06-14-2012, 12:53 AM
People who don't know this how the seedings for grand slams works
R32: 1-8, draws 25-32 and 9-16, draws 17-24
R16: 1-4, draws 13-16 and 5-8, draws 9-12

you forgot the part where Nadal draws all the spanish players:wavey:

n8
06-14-2012, 01:12 AM
1 Federer 9235
2 Nadal 4585
3 Roddick 3880
4 Nalbandian 3615
5 Ljubicic 3078.75
6 Hewitt 2592.5

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=83723

This is from 2006.

Pratik
06-14-2012, 07:28 AM
This is from 2006.

Yes. Because Judio and Featherer wanted the 2006 seedings calculations

dencod16
06-14-2012, 08:25 AM
I found something that might answer our question thanks to Pratik, If i am not mistaken 2006 Wimbledon happened a week after as well.

On the list of seeds, There points as of June 19, 2006
If not adjusted
seeded 29 ranked 36 Paradorn Srichaphan 845 + 20(Queens 2006) + 5(Wimbledon 2005) + 40*.75(Nottingham 2005) = 900 --> which is even less Vliegen without adding points to the Belgian
seeded 30 ranked 35 Kristof Vliegen 916
seeded 31 ranked 33 Nicolas Massu 955 + 35 (Wimbledon 2005) + 5*.75(Wimbledon 2004) = 993.75

If adjusted
seeded 29 ranked 36 Paradorn Srichaphan 845 + 20(Queens 2006) + 5(Wimbledon 2005) + 40(Nottingham 2005) + 175*.75(Nottingham 2004)= 1041.25
seeded 30 ranked 35 Kristof Vliegen 916 + 100(Halle 2006) + 5*.75(Queens 2005) = 1019.75
seeded 31 ranked 33 Nicolas Massu 955 + 35 (Wimbledon 2005) + 5*.75(Wimbledon 2004) = 993.75

So based on this i think they will adjust
Correct me if i miss something or made a mistake.

n8
06-14-2012, 10:35 AM
Yes. Because Judio and Featherer wanted the 2006 seedings calculations

Sorry, I really should've looked back. Thanks for posting it.

Hian-GOAT
06-14-2012, 10:44 AM
Murray should be stripped away of his seeding and play qualies.

TigerTim
06-14-2012, 10:55 AM
Murray should be stripped away of his seeding and play qualies.

that would be too bad tbh, he would get some match practice, hopefully he will play at the Boodles now

dencod16
06-14-2012, 10:56 AM
The problem is that the grass season 2004 was also one week later. So Srichaphan's Nottingham'2004 would count anyways.

...If Tipsarevic wins today he will be 8th seeded in Wimby either way.

But if they follow the strict, he will still be short as the 2005 Nottingham will not count

ANd tipsarevic needs to reach semis, we are only in the third round, if he wins he will get to the quarters.

dencod16
06-14-2012, 11:06 AM
The problem is that the grass season 2004 was also one week later. So Srichaphan's Nottingham'2004 would count anyways.

...If Tipsarevic wins today he will be 8th seeded in Wimby either way.

I think they are the same week.

tealeaves
06-15-2012, 12:32 PM
So even now Tipsarevic lost to Lu he will be seeded eighth :sobbing:?

STUHL
06-15-2012, 06:01 PM
Kohli now seeded, Roddick unseeded!

Hian-GOAT
06-15-2012, 07:45 PM
Kohli now seeded, Roddick unseeded!

:hearts:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu1o3jz3aM1qh0epb.gif

fognini for ever
06-16-2012, 08:28 AM
so at the moment seppi is number 23 seed?

dencod16
06-16-2012, 04:35 PM
so at the moment seppi is number 23 seed?

He will be seeded 24 if there are no withdrawals and special seedings.

duong
06-16-2012, 04:41 PM
to be seeded Roddick will have to rely on his great friend Fish to withdraw :lol:

E-r-i-c
06-16-2012, 04:44 PM
How about Nalbandian?

iriraz
06-16-2012, 04:45 PM
to be seeded Roddick will have to rely on his great friend Fish to withdraw :lol:

There are a couple of guys who haven`t played in a while and might withdraw like Fish, Monfils,Nishikori.

dencod16
06-16-2012, 06:16 PM
How about Nalbandian?

If he wins in Queens he will be seeded.

dencod16
06-16-2012, 06:17 PM
There are a couple of guys who haven`t played in a while and might withdraw like Fish, Monfils,Nishikori.

Nishikori is surely now going to play. Fish, Monfils are questionable. There have been news about Tsonga and Tomic, with Tsonga his finger and Tomic with an illness.

Backhand_Maestro
06-16-2012, 06:22 PM
that would be too bad tbh, he would get some match practice, hopefully he will play at the Boodles now

Indeed he is

guichard
06-16-2012, 08:14 PM
Nishikori is surely now going to play. Fish, Monfils are questionable. There have been news about Tsonga and Tomic, with Tsonga his finger and Tomic with an illness.
Fish confirms that he is playing

Paylu2007
06-16-2012, 09:54 PM
Lol at people underrating Murray's grass game. You don't get to 3 SF at Wimby by being a mug :facepalm:

I sometimes wonder if most of MTF even watches tennis :facepalm:

....you can win 2 WB but being a mug on REAL grass, though :P

Looner
06-17-2012, 10:26 PM
What about Tommy. Any chance for him with that win at Halle?

delboy
06-17-2012, 10:42 PM
What about Tommy. Any chance for him with that win at Halle?

he was given a wildcard for Wimby long before his win in Halle.

Filo V.
06-17-2012, 10:43 PM
Fish, Monfils, Nishikori and Tsonga are all playing Wimbledon as it currently stands. I can't believe A-Rod could be unseeded, though. Even at his reduced level, that is not a R1 match you want to be drawn against.

Manequin75
06-17-2012, 10:45 PM
Fish, Monfils, Nishikori and Tsonga are all playing Wimbledon as it currently stands. I can't believe A-Rod could be unseeded, though. Even at his reduced level, that is not a R1 match you want to be drawn against.

he can barely win a match these days on any surface. I volunteer Rafa playing him R1. Bring it on :)

fognini for ever
06-19-2012, 08:17 AM
ehi people, so seppi is sure 24th seed?

BroTree123
06-19-2012, 08:44 AM
Fish, Monfils, Nishikori and Tsonga are all playing Wimbledon as it currently stands. I can't believe A-Rod could be unseeded, though. Even at his reduced level, that is not a R1 match you want to be drawn against.

Not really.

Ash86
06-20-2012, 09:19 AM
Announced on twitter - journos seem to have access but can't find list online yet. Tonic seeded 20, Raonic 21, Anderson 32. Doesn't seem like Del Po got into top 8...

I don't see the point of adjusted rankings if they don't take into account Del Po being more dangerous than Tipsy - one of the top 4 gets a guaranteed easier quarter - well two I guess as Ferrer on grass is no threat. Given how close Del Po is to Tipsy in rankings I think Wimbledon should have factored in his performance against Nadal last year and given him top 8. Very tough fourth round opponent.

Taz Warrior
06-20-2012, 09:28 AM
There is a formula that Wimbledon use based on grass results and Tipsy had a grass court final last year which will have helped his adjusted points tally.

dencod16
06-20-2012, 09:30 AM
Someone withdrew from wimbledon.

Ash86
06-20-2012, 09:31 AM
Someone withdrew from wimbledon.

It's Monfils. He's not list of seeds.

duong
06-20-2012, 09:39 AM
Applegirl posted the complete list : exactly what the formula did, just adjusting counting Eastbourne/Rosmalen's week as Dencod had guessed : Roddick's seeded thanks to Monfils's withdrawal

The Wimbledon seedings were announced:

Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) [1]
Rafael NADAL (ESP) [2]
Roger FEDERER (SUI) [3]
Andy MURRAY (GBR) [4]
Jo-Wilfried TSONGA (FRA) [5]
Tomas BERDYCH (CZE) [6]
David FERRER (ESP) [7]
Janko TIPSAREVIC (SRB) [8]
Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) [9]
Mardy FISH (USA) [10]
John ISNER (USA) [11]
Nicolas ALMAGRO (ESP) [12]
Gilles SIMON (FRA) [13]
Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP) [14]
Juan MONACO (ARG) [15]
Marin CILIC (CRO) [16]
Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) [17]
Richard GASQUET (FRA) [18]
Kei NISHIKORI (JPN) [19]
Bernard TOMIC (AUS) [20]
Milos RAONIC (CAN) [21]
Alexandr DOLGOPOLOV (UKR) [22]
Andreas SEPPI (ITA) [23]
Marcel GRANOLLERS (ESP) [24]
Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) [25]
Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS) [26]
Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) [27]
Radek STEPANEK (CZE) [28]
Julien BENNETEAU (FRA) [29]
Andy RODDICK (USA) [30]
Florian MAYER (GER) [31]
Kevin ANDERSON (RSA) [32]

Ausie
06-20-2012, 09:45 AM
No Monfils?:sad:

Chase Visa
06-20-2012, 09:55 AM
Announced on twitter - journos seem to have access but can't find list online yet. Tonic seeded 20, Raonic 21, Anderson 32. Doesn't seem like Del Po got into top 8...

I don't see the point of adjusted rankings if they don't take into account Del Po being more dangerous than Tipsy - one of the top 4 gets a guaranteed easier quarter - well two I guess as Ferrer on grass is no threat. Given how close Del Po is to Tipsy in rankings I think Wimbledon should have factored in his performance against Nadal last year and given him top 8. Very tough fourth round opponent.

It's done mathematically, not by opinion.

Chase Visa
06-20-2012, 09:55 AM
No Monfils?:sad:

Has apparently withdrawn.

uxyzapenje
06-20-2012, 10:04 AM
Is Troicki 1st under the line?

duong
06-20-2012, 10:09 AM
Is Troicki 1st under the line?

yes : he might be seeded if there's one more withdrawal in time.

Could even change position in the draw :

- would take the position of the withdrawing player if this player is seeded 17-32

- would take the position of the player seeded 17 (Verdasco) if the withdrawing player is ranked 1-16

emotion
06-20-2012, 10:15 AM
Poor nalby, i think he woulda been seeded if not for point penalty

duong
06-20-2012, 10:24 AM
Poor nalby, i think he woulda been seeded if not for point penalty

yes (and Roddick wouldn't have been :lol: )

leng jai
06-20-2012, 10:29 AM
The comic relief from that incident is seemingly endless.

ServeVolley
06-20-2012, 10:29 AM
he can barely win a match these days on any surface. I volunteer Rafa playing him R1. Bring it on :)

Nah... Let Djokovic draw him (5-3!), and then we might get the biggest upset since Hewitt in 2003. :devil:

EDIT: Wait, so if Monfils has withdrawn that means Roddick is seeded after all... Blast it! :(

cardio
06-20-2012, 10:37 AM
Seeding doesnt help Duck.First half-decent player he meets and he is out.

dencod16
06-20-2012, 02:45 PM
Poor nalby, i think he woulda been seeded if not for point penalty

No he wouldn't have been we would have had 1,120 points which is still behind Roddick 1,190, if he won, then he would have been seeded. He would have been ranked 36, Nalbandian that is.

nalbyfan
06-20-2012, 02:56 PM
Delpo getting seeded .8 will be good for tennis.

Delpo sucks on grass. I don't think he will have a good Wimbly. He has no preparation on grass and is back after a knee injury

Corey Feldman
06-20-2012, 03:51 PM
Roddick would have been seeded anyway despite Nalbandian's hooligan antics

Delpo at #9 and not top 8 sucks, just hope he gets Nadull or Nole in R16 but will probably get Fed, as usual :rolleyes:

Renaud
06-20-2012, 05:05 PM
Delpo at #9 and not top 8 sucks, just hope he gets Nadull or Nole in R16 but will probably get Fed, as usual :rolleyes:
He'll get Tipsarevic, Tsonga, Ferrer or Berdych.

Renaud
06-20-2012, 05:09 PM
Roddick would have been seeded anyway despite Nalbandian's hooligan antics

Nop he would have been 34th so unseeded.

dencod16
06-20-2012, 05:20 PM
Nop he would have been 34th so unseeded.

No, he wouldnt be, Roddick will be 33, Nalbandian needed to win queens to be seeded.

Corey Feldman
06-20-2012, 07:02 PM
Roddick is seeded 30

so he'd have been 31 had Nalbi been seeded

uxyzapenje
06-20-2012, 07:09 PM
Roddick is seeded 30

so he'd have been 31 had Nalbi been seeded

No, he wouldn't. They dont pick the seeds, 1st 32 players are seeds! And after that they use other criteria to select the seed number for every player. Roddick is ranked 33, got in bcs of Monfils pulling out. If Nalby was raked in front of him, Roddick wouldn't be seeded.

Corey Feldman
06-20-2012, 07:10 PM
La Monf pulled out? :bigcry:

petar_pan
06-20-2012, 09:51 PM
1.Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) [1]
2.Rafael NADAL (ESP) [2]
3.Roger FEDERER (SUI) [3]
4.Andy MURRAY (GBR) [4]
5.Jo-Wilfried TSONGA (FRA) [5]
6.Tomas BERDYCH (CZE) [6]
7.David FERRER (ESP) [7]
8.Janko TIPSAREVIC (SRB) [8]
9.Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) [9]
10.Mardy FISH (USA) [10]
11.John ISNER (USA) [11]
12.Nicolas ALMAGRO (ESP) [12]
13.Gilles SIMON (FRA) [13]
14.Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP) [14]
15.Juan MONACO (ARG) [15]
16.Marin CILIC (CRO) [16]
17.Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) [17]
18.Richard GASQUET (FRA) [18]
19.Kei NISHIKORI (JPN) [19]
20.Bernard TOMIC (AUS) [20]
21.Milos RAONIC (CAN) [21]
22.Alexandr DOLGOPOLOV (UKR) [22]
23.Andreas SEPPI (ITA) [23]
24.Marcel GRANOLLERS (ESP) [24]
25.Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) [25]
26.Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS) [26]
27.Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) [27]
28.Radek STEPANEK (CZE) [28]
29.Julien BENNETEAU (FRA) [29]
30.Andy RODDICK (USA) [30]
31.Florian MAYER (GER) [31]
32.Kevin ANDERSON (RSA) [32]

Jimnik
06-20-2012, 09:56 PM
Hope Rod draws Djoker 3rd round.

romismak
06-20-2012, 10:25 PM
O.k we have seedings, i want now rematch RAonic-Monaco, this time Milos in straight sets. I can see Milos to beat anybody from 9-16 so hope he will make R4, Raonic-Isner would be good match- i mean RAonic on grass favorite and i really want those 2 play each other finally, they were supposed to be in F in Memphis but Melzer stealed the show.

Roddick seeded is good, no matter what form he has, he is multiple finalist at Wimbledon and clearly one of better players on grass and he can beat many ranked higher at Wimbledon so hope he will get some momentum in Eastbourne- maybe even win it and than will have good WImby run - who knows maybe last- last as seeded at least.

n8
06-20-2012, 11:03 PM
1.Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) [1]
2.Rafael NADAL (ESP) [2]
3.Roger FEDERER (SUI) [3]
4.Andy MURRAY (GBR) [4]
5.Jo-Wilfried TSONGA (FRA) [5]
6.Tomas BERDYCH (CZE) [6]
7.David FERRER (ESP) [7]
8.Janko TIPSAREVIC (SRB) [8]
9.Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) [9]
10.Mardy FISH (USA) [10]
11.John ISNER (USA) [11]
12.Nicolas ALMAGRO (ESP) [12]
13.Gilles SIMON (FRA) [13]
14.Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP) [14]
15.Juan MONACO (ARG) [15]
16.Marin CILIC (CRO) [16]
17.Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) [17]
18.Richard GASQUET (FRA) [18]
19.Kei NISHIKORI (JPN) [19]
20.Bernard TOMIC (AUS) [20]
21.Milos RAONIC (CAN) [21]
22.Alexandr DOLGOPOLOV (UKR) [22]
23.Andreas SEPPI (ITA) [23]
24.Marcel GRANOLLERS (ESP) [24]
25.Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) [25]
26.Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS) [26]
27.Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) [27]
28.Radek STEPANEK (CZE) [28]
29.Julien BENNETEAU (FRA) [29]
30.Andy RODDICK (USA) [30]
31.Florian MAYER (GER) [31]
32.Kevin ANDERSON (RSA) [32]

I'm glad Cilic got a top 16 seed. When I first saw that list on the official website, I assumed that the number in brackets was their ranking or something. It's not the greatest list making I've ever seen, having the exact same information twice in each row.

tangerine_dream
06-20-2012, 11:05 PM
1.Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) [1]
2.Rafael NADAL (ESP) [2]
3.Roger FEDERER (SUI) [3]
4.Andy MURRAY (GBR) [4]
5.Jo-Wilfried TSONGA (FRA) [5]
6.Tomas BERDYCH (CZE) [6]
7.David FERRER (ESP) [7]
8.Janko TIPSAREVIC (SRB) [8]
9.Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) [9]
10.Mardy FISH (USA) [10]
11.John ISNER (USA) [11]
12.Nicolas ALMAGRO (ESP) [12]
13.Gilles SIMON (FRA) [13]
14.Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP) [14]
15.Juan MONACO (ARG) [15]
16.Marin CILIC (CRO) [16]
17.Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) [17]
18.Richard GASQUET (FRA) [18]
19.Kei NISHIKORI (JPN) [19]
20.Bernard TOMIC (AUS) [20]
21.Milos RAONIC (CAN) [21]
22.Alexandr DOLGOPOLOV (UKR) [22]
23.Andreas SEPPI (ITA) [23]
24.Marcel GRANOLLERS (ESP) [24]
25.Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) [25]
26.Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS) [26]
27.Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) [27]
28.Radek STEPANEK (CZE) [28]
29.Julien BENNETEAU (FRA) [29]
30.Andy RODDICK (USA) [30]
31.Florian MAYER (GER) [31]
32.Kevin ANDERSON (RSA) [32]

Vamos, duck decoy. :D

duong
06-21-2012, 08:23 AM
No he wouldn't have been we would have had 1,120 points which is still behind Roddick 1,190, if he won, then he would have been seeded. He would have been ranked 36, Nalbandian that is.

yes you're right actually :o , I meant he would have been seeded if he had defeated Cilic, which I think he would have done to say my belief.

henke007
06-21-2012, 08:57 AM
Fed/Roddick R3 book it

veganlunch
06-21-2012, 12:59 PM
As players are seeded in groups of 4, ie players 1-4 are seeded to play players seeded 29-32 in the 3rd round, 5-8 playing 25-28 etc. there doesn't seem to have been any point in moving players around in the same brackets of 4, unless of course there are more withdrawals before the tournament starts.

At the moment the only players affected by the changes from the rankings are Cilic,Tomic,Seppi and Youzhny in a positive way; and Verdasco,Dolgopolov,Wawrinka,Stepanek,and F.Mayer in a negative way.

dencod16
06-21-2012, 02:34 PM
As players are seeded in groups of 4, ie players 1-4 are seeded to play players seeded 29-32 in the 3rd round, 5-8 playing 25-28 etc. there doesn't seem to have been any point in moving players around in the same brackets of 4, unless of course there are more withdrawals before the tournament starts.

At the moment the only players affected by the changes from the rankings are Cilic,Tomic,Seppi and Youzhny in a positive way; and Verdasco,Dolgopolov,Wawrinka,Stepanek,and F.Mayer in a negative way.

LOL, what tennis are you watching. 1-4 dont play 29-32. 1-8 plays 25-32 and 9-16 plays 17-24.
e.i. 2011 Wimbledon 30 seed Bellucci draws 8 seed Roddick
2012 French 4 seed Murray draws 25 seed Tomic.

Please check your facts before you become such a critic of the seedings.