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Fish out of top 10 after Miami?

drazyc
03-20-2012, 08:37 PM
Miami results from 2011 excluded he is number 11. Will he be out of top 10 after Miami, or will he finally have a better tournament? I think he has to count on Tipsarevic doing poorly.

Sauletekis
03-20-2012, 08:44 PM
Easy YES!

Tennis will be able to survive to this loss, me thinks...

romismak
03-20-2012, 08:45 PM
Finally, he was good-deserved to be top 10 from summer 2010-summer 2011 but that´s it, in 2012 there is no place for him there. Delpo will be back, Isner is in last months best US player.

reery
03-20-2012, 08:46 PM
Yep.

Filo V.
03-20-2012, 08:48 PM
It doesn't take a huge amount for Mardy to retain his top 10 position. But I think he's going to lose early in Miami. Pressure is on him and it will tell. I think he's going down R3 at the latest.

Gillouthe best
03-20-2012, 08:51 PM
Hell yes, Fish time in Top-10 is over.

stanch
03-20-2012, 09:01 PM
Yep, it's inevitable.

samanosuke
03-20-2012, 09:03 PM
thanx God

seljanin
03-20-2012, 09:35 PM
Finally, he was good-deserved to be top 10 from summer 2010-summer 2011 but that´s it, in 2012 there is no place for him there. Delpo will be back, Isner is in last months best US player.

As much as it hurts for me to admit this, agree with every word here.

ballbasher101
03-20-2012, 09:38 PM
About time he drops out. He has been poor this year. Last year he deserved to be in the top 10 but not this year.

156mphserve
03-20-2012, 09:58 PM
Question, Miami from last year ended one week sooner right? so in theory it should drop this weekend, but where Miami is 1 week later there are no rankings until Miami ends, so it wll count for 53 weeks? Why don't they publish a new rankings mid event in 2 week long events like grand slams, and IW/Miami? I mean challengers, and futures are still going on, why should those players have to wait to put their points on just because the ATP event is 2 weeks long?

r2473
03-20-2012, 10:00 PM
Probably will drop behind Tipsy, Del Potro, and Isner to number 11. But he will still be only a few points from #10. If he manages to earn ANYTHING during the clay season, he will be top 10 again before wimbledon. Then he'll have to defend his wimbledon, canada, and cincy points.

Evitman
03-20-2012, 10:04 PM
TBH, what significant things had Fish done to be a top 10 player?

Punky
03-20-2012, 10:05 PM
his time in the top 10 is over

r2473
03-20-2012, 10:10 PM
TBH, what significant things had Fish done to be a top 10 player?

When the top 4 are consistently in the semis of every major tournament, all you need are consistent quarters and rd16 finishes to be top 10. Toss in the odd semi and finalist and there you go.

156mphserve
03-20-2012, 10:14 PM
TBH, what significant things had Fish done to be a top 10 player?

Toronto Finals

motorhead
03-20-2012, 11:24 PM
Question, Miami from last year ended one week sooner right? so in theory it should drop this weekend, but where Miami is 1 week later there are no rankings until Miami ends, so it wll count for 53 weeks? Why don't they publish a new rankings mid event in 2 week long events like grand slams, and IW/Miami? I mean challengers, and futures are still going on, why should those players have to wait to put their points on just because the ATP event is 2 weeks long?
Futures points are accounted 2 weeks after the tournamentes.

Stronga23
03-20-2012, 11:28 PM
Monfils deserves to be in the Top 10 he has been excellent since the summer HC season last year he will obtain tons of clay points this year.

henke007
03-20-2012, 11:31 PM
Yes he will drop out and after the summer he will be out of top 30 were he belongs!!

Clay Death
03-20-2012, 11:32 PM
fish got fished out. he was overrated anyway.

Certinfy
03-20-2012, 11:55 PM
Monfils deserves to be in the Top 10 he has been excellent since the summer HC season last year he will obtain tons of clay points this year.
Would be awesome if we could have these guys all in the top 10:
1) Djokovic
2) Nadal
3) Federer
4) Murray
5) Ferrer
6) Tsonga
7) Berdych
8) Del Potro
9) Monfils
10) Isner

Would be a great top 10.

Stronga23
03-21-2012, 12:00 AM
Would be awesome if we could have these guys all in the top 10:
1) Djokovic
2) Nadal
3) Federer
4) Murray
5) Ferrer
6) Tsonga
7) Berdych
8) Del Potro
9) Monfils
10) Isner

Would be a great top 10.

Gael> Janko :D

Certinfy
03-21-2012, 12:03 AM
Gael> Janko :D
Definitely. How guys like Tipsarevic, Almagro and Fish got into the top 10 is just :help: :tape:

156mphserve
03-21-2012, 12:06 AM
Futures points are accounted 2 weeks after the tournamentes.

not true.

Futures points are added in groups. For instance Canada F1, and Canada F2 don't both get added 2 weeks after they finish, they get added at the same time, this time may be right after Canada F2 finishes, or a week after that or 2 weeks after that, but every futures tournament doesn't get added 2 weeks after it finishes, some get added immediately, some 1 week, some 2, some 3 based on how they group them, and when they add each group.

Certinfy
03-21-2012, 12:09 AM
Fish is defending:
Miami SF
Wimbledon QF
Atlanta W
LA Final
Toronto Final
Cincinnati SF
Tokyo SF

Good luck saying in the top 20, Mardy. :lol:

Filo V.
03-21-2012, 12:12 AM
Most of those points are defendable. Only Miami and Toronto look out of reach.

156mphserve
03-21-2012, 12:17 AM
not the way he's playing atm

Cincinnati is the same as Miami, but Miami is out of reach yet Cincinnati isn't?

Looner
03-21-2012, 12:26 AM
Cincy is a proper fast court

motorhead
03-21-2012, 12:33 AM
not true.

Futures points are added in groups. For instance Canada F1, and Canada F2 don't both get added 2 weeks after they finish, they get added at the same time, this time may be right after Canada F2 finishes, or a week after that or 2 weeks after that, but every futures tournament doesn't get added 2 weeks after it finishes, some get added immediately, some 1 week, some 2, some 3 based on how they group them, and when they add each group.
when I checked this rule as always been followed
(ii) Futures Series Tournaments that are only entered into the System on the second Monday following the Tournament's
but u might be right.

BroTree123
03-21-2012, 12:35 AM
Has a cake draw. So if he loses early again, it will reveal how poor this loud-mouth is atm.

Smoke944
03-21-2012, 12:37 AM
Question, Miami from last year ended one week sooner right? so in theory it should drop this weekend, but where Miami is 1 week later there are no rankings until Miami ends, so it wll count for 53 weeks? Why don't they publish a new rankings mid event in 2 week long events like grand slams, and IW/Miami? I mean challengers, and futures are still going on, why should those players have to wait to put their points on just because the ATP event is 2 weeks long?

Nope. The reason you might think this is that the rankings weren't updated a week ago due to the length of Indian Wells (and also Miami)

156mphserve
03-21-2012, 12:42 AM
Nope. The reason you might think this is that the rankings weren't updated a week ago due to the length of Indian Wells (and also Miami)

exactly, we don't get a new ranking when we have a 2 week tournament, because it's 2 weeks long, isn't that exactly what I said?:confused:

156mphserve
03-21-2012, 12:44 AM
Has a cake draw. So if he loses early again, it will reveal how poor this loud-mouth is atm.

not anymore, he just discovered that his 2nd round match will be against the formidable Frank Dancevic:worship:

Smoke944
03-21-2012, 12:44 AM
exactly, we don't get a new ranking when we have a 2 week tournament, because it's 2 weeks long, isn't that exactly what I said?:confused:

oops, quoted the wrong post
But what you said is that futures points are added in groups. They aren't, though it ends up being that way a couple of times a year when you have two week long tournaments.

156mphserve
03-21-2012, 12:50 AM
yeah, you're right, my mistake. I thought I remembered seeing it happen one week that there wasn't a 2 week tournament though but I can't find an example of it now, so I guess not.

You quoted the wrong post though, had me confused, thinking you were answering the question in the post you quoted

Smoke944
03-21-2012, 12:50 AM
yeah, you're right, my mistake. I thought I remembered seeing it happen one week that there wasn't a 2 week tournament though but I can't find an example of it now, so I guess not.

You quoted the wrong post though, had me confused, thinking you were answering the question in the post you quoted

my bad :p

BroTree123
03-21-2012, 01:06 AM
not anymore, he just discovered that his 2nd round match will be against the formidable Frank Dancevic:worship:

Did he win the challenger event last week?

Anyways, has a losing record against Fish :confused:. But hopefully it will change. Gotta get past Chardy first. I can't rely on Chardy taking out Fish :o.