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WWW Miami Masters? Main draw in OP!

alter ego
03-19-2012, 05:24 PM
So?

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/403/mds.pdf

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 05:25 PM
Easy draw for Federer, difficult one for Djokovic with fearless Baghy in R2.

Federer-Roddick rd3 will be sweet nostalgia.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 05:27 PM
Will be interesting to see Santi vs Rafa, should they play, in R2.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 05:28 PM
I'm going to ride the hot hand and say Roger again. Draw looks great and he's in great form.

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 05:28 PM
You mean Andujar vs Rafa? That will be interesting indeed.

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 05:29 PM
Del Potro-DJokovic can be interesting in the QF.

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 05:30 PM
Ferrer is going to destroy Tomic in rd2...

ossie
03-19-2012, 05:31 PM
nadal has a pretty easy draw and lmao at federer-roddick :haha:

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 05:31 PM
Fed will get a very easy QF opponent, we have Almagro, Verdasco and Fish fighting that one out.

ossie
03-19-2012, 05:32 PM
murray to destroy the serve bot raonic

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 05:32 PM
Can Murray fall in rd2 against Falla/Istomin?

nsidhan
03-19-2012, 05:33 PM
Fed has an easy draw. Should beat a bunch of Americans and make finals if fit.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 05:35 PM
You mean Andujar vs Rafa? That will be interesting indeed.

Giraldo will beat Andujar, IMO. That's a good R1 match, though.

ossie
03-19-2012, 05:35 PM
kubot vs karlovic first round again :haha:

ossie
03-19-2012, 05:36 PM
kubot vs karlovic first round again :haha: to fight for the honour of losing to the goat

juan27
03-19-2012, 05:36 PM
for me , nadal is in the final....

murray for sure will lose with raonic or berdych , i think that if murray play against nadal in miami , he can win perfectly but andy is very irregular.

and for nadal it`s a perfect draw , if he plays the final keep the nº2 , and maybe will face federer in the final if roger can defeat novak , again federer can do the dirty job to nadull.

for nadal it`s very important keep the nº2 for the slams because if roger take the nº2 , nadal in the slams can facing always with novak , and this is very good for federer especially in rg.

alter ego
03-19-2012, 05:37 PM
Can Murray fall in rd2 against Falla/Istomin?

Istomin is playing good stuff but c'mon Murray should win some matches here. He's a past champion out here.

ossie
03-19-2012, 05:38 PM
nalbandian versus dolgo in the third round will be mouthwatering good tennis.

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2012, 05:40 PM
nalbandian versus dolgo in the third round will be mouthwatering good tennis.

Would indeed be great if it happened. Nalbandian though often plays a bad tournament after a good one, and needless to say you often don't know what to expect from Dolgo.

Time Violation
03-19-2012, 05:41 PM
Easy draw for Federer, difficult one for Djokovic with fearless Baghy in R2.

Federer-Roddick rd3 will be sweet nostalgia.

I think Nole's draw is pretty balanced, not too easy/not too hard, looks good :)

rocketassist
03-19-2012, 05:43 PM
Can Murray fall in rd2 against Falla/Istomin?

I reckon so.

Hope Federer wins and manages to get to RG as number 2.

AnotherGameFor
03-19-2012, 05:45 PM
Istomin is playing good stuff but c'mon Murray should win some matches here. He's a past champion out here.

Murray surely got the worst possible Rd3 matchup in Raonic, so an early exit is extremely possible for Murray.

ossie
03-19-2012, 05:48 PM
Ferrer is going to destroy Tomic in rd2...
matches against ferrer are a good chance for youngsters to see if they can roll with the big boys or not.

Stronga23
03-19-2012, 05:48 PM
Istomin is playing good stuff but c'mon Murray should win some matches here. He's a past champion out here.

Hopefully we get Gael-Roger :yeah:

TBkeeper
03-19-2012, 05:49 PM
DAVYDENKO VS BLAKE ROUND 1 !!!!!!
Get ready for it biatches !!!
Head to head is 0-7 for Blake !

alter ego
03-19-2012, 05:51 PM
Hopefully we get Gael-Roger :yeah:

We should get it but we don't know if Monf is 100% fit.

Roger the Dodger
03-19-2012, 05:57 PM
Is this a troll attempt? The ATP site still hasn't got the draw out. They only have the qualifying draw out?

Or is the OP an insider? :aplot:

Snowwy
03-19-2012, 06:00 PM
Is this a troll attempt? The ATP site still hasn't got the draw out. They only have the qualifying draw out?

Or is the OP an insider? :aplot:

The draw is out, ATP site is slow.

Mystique
03-19-2012, 06:01 PM
Is this a troll attempt? The ATP site still hasn't got the draw out. They only have the qualifying draw out?

Or is the OP an insider? :aplot:

Its already up in the SE official site.
The ATP site morons are just doing their regular business - being invariably slow

UsD.AnDreS
03-19-2012, 06:03 PM
Well... DelPo not in Fed's quarter, that's a shocker. Although still couldn't escape being in the same half ;)
Will be interesting to see if Isner can back up his previous tournament by getting at least a QF here

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 06:05 PM
Well... DelPo not in Fed's quarter, that's a shocker. Although still couldn't escape being in the same half ;)
Will be interesting to see if Isner can back up his previous tournament by getting at least a QF here

Delpo will play Federer in SF, they are destined for each other.

Roger the Dodger
03-19-2012, 06:05 PM
Thank you children! :hatoff:

samanosuke
03-19-2012, 06:07 PM
Fucking unbelievable . Every fucking time Nadal's draw looks like 250 tournament . This can't be possible without rigging . Fed has Harrison in first match, after staying long in IW really tricky one for first round

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 06:07 PM
Harrison is a pusher so Federer might have to fight a little bit to get past him in rd2 and then Roddick has beaten Federer in this tournament, ofcourse I think Federer will get past them both but it might not be so easy as it seems on paper. This type of court is a dream for every pusher, the best courts for pushers in the atp tour.

Stronga23
03-19-2012, 06:07 PM
Nalby is in Murray's section so I could see a David-Rafa rematch.

LastRocket
03-19-2012, 06:08 PM
Federer will be tough to beat. :worship:
Murray to loose his first match :superlol:

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 06:09 PM
Federer might play 3 pushers in a row on ultraslow hardcourt, I dont think it will be as easy as I thought it would. Harrison-Roddick-Monfils is not that easy on these courts and having played alot of tennis lately.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 06:11 PM
Would indeed be great if it happened. Nalbandian though often plays a bad tournament after a good one, and needless to say you often don't know what to expect from Dolgo.

True. I think Darcis has a good shot at taking out Nalbandian. That's like the worst possible match for David. Then Janko again, who will be motivated after losing to David in IW.

emotion
03-19-2012, 06:12 PM
Compare Nadal's Miami and IW draws. And some people think it isn't fixed...

LastRocket
03-19-2012, 06:12 PM
Federer might play 3 pushers in a row on ultraslow hardcourt, I dont think it will be as easy as I thought it would. Harrison-Roddick-Monfils is not that easy on these courts and having played alot of tennis lately.

Sure but federer is full of confidence, slow courts won't matter and not those clowns :worship:

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 06:13 PM
Igor K. MUST take out Levine, and then Cilic is extremely winnable. He keeps getting good draws and now is the time to take advantage.

Mystique
03-19-2012, 06:13 PM
Federer might play 3 pushers in a row on ultraslow hardcourt, I dont think it will be as easy as I thought it would. Harrison-Roddick-Monfils is not that easy on these courts and having played alot of tennis lately.

Thats true, but you really think Roddick will push Federer? Duck is going to pay badly for MSG exho here;)
Agree that Harrison is not a good first match for Fed, he made life difficult for Roger the once they played - IW last year when Fed won 6 and 3. Still, I expect Fed to come through without a lot of difficulty from his half if he plays anything like the last three matches in IW. Of course the conditions will be hotter and harder here, but Fed is in good form so...:)

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 06:14 PM
Roddick has won Miami as many times as Federer and is the most succesfull player here together with Federer/Djokovic.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 06:16 PM
Muller can take Roddick out definitely in R2. I actually think he would if they play, but I expect it to be Bogomolov, in which case A-Rod would win.

This is 2012 now, Roddick of even two years ago is gone.

Mystique
03-19-2012, 06:17 PM
MTF doing it again, jinxing Fed in the poll:(

delboy
03-19-2012, 06:17 PM
easy title for muzza

Tennis-Life
03-19-2012, 06:22 PM
This type of court is a dream for every pusher, the best courts for pushers in the atp tour.

:superlol: :yeah:

Saberq
03-19-2012, 06:23 PM
Rafa will be in the final it's his type of court

FedvsNole
03-19-2012, 06:23 PM
Ridiculous poll. Novak is still the obvious favorite here followed by nadal and if murray can reach the semis he's right there to win on there ultra slow hard courts. Federer is the 4th favorite for me especially after winning the last 3 tournaments in a row he just won't be as hungry/more tired to win this here and the conditions are way against him.


Easy draws aren't always the best for fed. If he can reach the semis thats a great effort. Then he can go get some rest and play monte carlo and grab some points there.

tennizen
03-19-2012, 06:42 PM
Djokovic or Murray.

TigerTim
03-19-2012, 06:46 PM
Murray to beat Federer in the final in 3 sets.

Stronga23
03-19-2012, 06:48 PM
Gael will shock the world for the second time in three months this year.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 06:49 PM
People are still backing Murray :lol:

Singularity
03-19-2012, 06:54 PM
People are still backing Murray :lol:
Why not? If he shows up to play he can win.

Saberq
03-19-2012, 06:58 PM
Why not? If he shows up to play he can win.

there is this guy named Rafael Nadal in his path

reery
03-19-2012, 07:00 PM
I voted Federer.



andy is very irregular.


Understatement of the decade. :lol:

gators0708
03-19-2012, 07:04 PM
Does anyone know what side plays on what days yet?

Nole fan
03-19-2012, 07:06 PM
All Nole needs is a tough draw. He excels when he has to play difficult opponents like he did at AO. He will get more time on court and that's all good because after being away from competition for so long all he needs now is matches. And now that everyone is hyping Federer to no end, he will be able to advance without much noise and give the death blow.

Singularity
03-19-2012, 07:06 PM
there is this guy named Rafael Nadal in his path
So?

H2H is 3-4 on HCs in Bo3, including Murray's 2007 Madrid loss.

Saberq
03-19-2012, 07:08 PM
So?

H2H is 3-4 on HCs in Bo3, including Murray's 2007 Madrid loss.

on this court he cant beat him....nobody can except Novak.....this is like clay

sexybeast
03-19-2012, 07:08 PM
All Nole needs is a tough draw. He excels when he has to play difficult opponents like he did at AO. He will get more time on court and that's all good because after being away from competition for so long all he needs now is matches. And now that everyone is hyping Federer to no end, he will be able to advance without much noise and give the death blow.

I dont think many expect Federer to be favorite against Djokovic on slowest hardcourt in the atptour, if he gets to SF it will be good enought for me so he can take over nr2 from Nadal.

However Djokovic might lose to Murray in the final.

JanKowalski
03-19-2012, 07:08 PM
Does anyone know what side plays on what days yet?

Nadal's half plays first.

RoddickFan88
03-19-2012, 07:10 PM
Does anyone know what side plays on what days yet?

Bottom starts on Wednesday, Top on Thursday.

alter ego
03-19-2012, 07:12 PM
on this court he cant beat him....nobody can except Novak.....this is like clay

Good thing to know since Nadull has never won this tournament.:rolleyes:

Time Violation
03-19-2012, 07:12 PM
However Djokovic might lose to Murray in the final.

Murray has a long way to the finals :)

Sapeod
03-19-2012, 07:13 PM
A nice draw for Murray here. I think he'll leave that Indian Wells loss behind and gain some major points here.

Saberq
03-19-2012, 07:14 PM
Good thing to know since Nadull has never won this tournament.:rolleyes:

it wasnt always this slow..........

Sapeod
03-19-2012, 07:16 PM
Murray has a long way to the finals :)
He has a nice draw until the semi-finals, and he can easily beat Nadal on these courts if he's in form. And he did beat Djokovic not that long ago. Winning this title is VERY POSSIBLE, if he's in form.

SVK
03-19-2012, 07:17 PM
Djokovic - Troicki again?:spit:

Those courts in Miami are slow nowadays sure, just remember the last year how many clay courters made good run here, however for example Berlocq played outstanding tennis against Berdych, so there wasn´t just awful push-push performances from such players.

Saberq
03-19-2012, 07:18 PM
He has a nice draw until the semi-finals, and he can easily beat Nadal on these courts if he's in form. And he did beat Djokovic not that long ago. Winning this title is VERY POSSIBLE, if he's in form.

he wont beat Nadal here..........I can see him beat anyone but him here...

MatchFederer
03-19-2012, 07:20 PM
Interesting draw. I think Nadal or Murray over Federer in the final.

Time Violation
03-19-2012, 07:21 PM
He has a nice draw until the semi-finals, and he can easily beat Nadal on these courts if he's in form. And he did beat Djokovic not that long ago. Winning this title is VERY POSSIBLE, if he's in form.

Easily beating Nadal on a slow court? I don't think it's going to be that easy, and besides, he has Raonic and whoever comes out of the other quarter isn't going to be easy either. Doesn't look like a nice draw to me, unless there are some upsets in the process.

Stronga23
03-19-2012, 07:24 PM
He has a nice draw until the semi-finals, and he can easily beat Nadal on these courts if he's in form. And he did beat Djokovic not that long ago. Winning this title is VERY POSSIBLE, if he's in form.

Andy just watch how Gael played Rafa in Doha and you will be able to beat him :yeah:

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 07:24 PM
Murray is a distinct underdog on these courts to both Djokovic and Nadal, and probably Federer too. Get realistic, people.

MuzzahLovah
03-19-2012, 07:24 PM
Actually, Istomin and Raonic probably have better chance of taking Murray out than Simon and Berdych later in the quarter, so Andy better be on his toes early. I'd like to see a Nishikori-Nadal match, but Nishi hasn't been looking good since Australia. Harrison Federer should be interesting.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 07:25 PM
Istomin can EASILY take Murray out in R2. I really hope Denis beats Falla. If Murray can't beat GGL in Indian Wells, he's not beating Istomin in Miami on a court where conditions are even less favorable for Murray.

Certinfy
03-19-2012, 07:26 PM
Actually, Istomin and Raonic probably have better chance of taking Murray out than Simon and Berdych later in the quarter, so Andy better be on his toes early. I'd like to see a Nishikori-Nadal match, but Nishi hasn't been looking good since Australia. Harrison Federer should be interesting.
Berdych usually plays really well here though, will be a hard test for Murray if Berdych actually shows up if they meet.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 07:26 PM
Also, if 100% look for Matosevic to continue his good run by beating at least Melzer and very possibly beat Simon.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 07:27 PM
Berdych will lose to Tipsarevic/Nalbandian.

Also, if 100%, expect Davydenko to take out Isner.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 07:29 PM
Looking through the draw, the other guy outside of Roger (Rafa's draw is comfortable but not easy) who has an easy draw is Del Potro. Del Po should definitely make the QF here, and on these courts, I think he'll be with chances vs Djokovic.

Moozza
03-19-2012, 07:31 PM
Murray is a distinct underdog on these courts to both Djokovic and Murray, and probably Federer too. Get realistic, people.

That doesn't make sense

MuzzahLovah
03-19-2012, 07:32 PM
A nice draw for Murray here. I think he'll leave that Indian Wells loss behind and gain some major points here.

What do you mean, nice draw? He has Istomin first round, Raonic second, Berdych in his quarter- this is probably the worst draw of the top 4.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 07:34 PM
That doesn't make sense

:lol: Yeah I meant to say Djokovic and Nadal.

In any case, Murray will not be winning the title here.

Moozza
03-19-2012, 07:35 PM
:lol: Yeah I meant to say Djokovic and Nadal.

In any case, Murray will not be winning the title here.

Ruling out andy this early is a BIG MISTAKE

MuzzahLovah
03-19-2012, 07:36 PM
Berdych usually plays really well here though, will be a hard test for Murray if Berdych actually shows up if they meet.

Berdych hasn't shown up against a top 10 player in a while, if he was super saiyan Berdych he would be tough, but the way he played against Almagro and Del Po recently- I think Murray has more to worry about earlier in the draw.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 07:36 PM
He's dangerous if he passes his first couple of matches. But I don't see him doing it. I knew he was losing early last week, intuition tells me it's gonna be another early exit for the Scot. Istomin is such a bad match-up for Murray. He really should beat Andy, especially since Andy will be fragile right now after IW.

MuzzahLovah
03-19-2012, 07:37 PM
Also, if 100% look for Matosevic to continue his good run by beating at least Melzer and very possibly beat Simon.

Simon has turned a corner last tourney- he's not losing to Matsowhoever.

MuzzahLovah
03-19-2012, 07:38 PM
That doesn't make sense

Murray is always an underdog to Murray. :D

Sapeod
03-19-2012, 07:41 PM
he wont beat Nadal here..........I can see him beat anyone but him here...
Anyone but Nadal? What's Nadal going to do that Djokovic and Federer won't? Murray has beaten Nadal easily on slow hardcourt before. He can do it again if he's in form.
Easily beating Nadal on a slow court? I don't think it's going to be that easy, and besides, he has Raonic and whoever comes out of the other quarter isn't going to be easy either. Doesn't look like a nice draw to me, unless there are some upsets in the process.
He's beating Nadal fairly easily on slow hardcourt plenty of times. Considering most hardcourt nowadays is slow, that's pretty much all of his hardcourt wins over Nadal.
What do you mean, nice draw? He has Istomin first round, Raonic second, Berdych in his quarter- this is probably the worst draw of the top 4.
Istomin? What's he going to do? Istomin is pretty low tier player. He has nothing to hurt Murray with. I didn't notice Raonic. That could be tricky. Berdych could be tricky too, but he beat him with ease in Dubai. That said, Dubai was faster. Meh, Murray should win with no problems if he's in form.

Sapeod
03-19-2012, 07:42 PM
Ruling out andy this early is a BIG MISTAKE
People do it again and again. Sure, he has some early losses but ruling Murray out in any hardcourt tournament is idiotic.

reery
03-19-2012, 07:46 PM
Looking at history, Nadal only reaches IW finals in odd years(2007, 2009 and 2011).

He reaches Miami final every 3 years(2005, 2008, 2011).

So he probably won't reach the final in Miami like he didn't do it in IW.

Saberq
03-19-2012, 07:47 PM
People do it again and again. Sure, he has some early losses but ruling Murray out in any hardcourt tournament is idiotic.

Maybe because cant make past round 2 of IW and Miami for 3 years

PitsOfTheWorld
03-19-2012, 07:49 PM
Looking at history, Nadal only reaches IW finals in odd years(2007, 2009 and 2011).

He reaches Miami final every 3 years(2005, 2008, 2011).

So he probably won't reach the final in Miami like he didn't do it in IW.

Outstanding analysis.

Time Violation
03-19-2012, 07:52 PM
Outstanding analysis.

Seconded :lol:

reery
03-19-2012, 07:53 PM
I was right in IW when I said he would lose to Fed while everybody thought that was impossible on slow HC. :lol:

It's like predicting his odd years will be worse than his even years.

So far that has been the case.

Sapeod
03-19-2012, 07:57 PM
Maybe because cant make past round 2 of IW and Miami for 3 years
He can't get past the first couple of rounds of a few tournaments for the past 2 years so he won't ever again? Outstanding logic as usual, Saberq.

Time Violation
03-19-2012, 07:59 PM
I was right in IW when I said he would lose to Fed while everybody thought that was impossible on slow HC. :lol:

Broken clock is also right twice a day :)

Saberq
03-19-2012, 08:05 PM
He can't get past the first couple of rounds of a few tournaments for the past 2 years so he won't ever again? Outstanding logic as usual, Saberq.

didnt say that .......just that that's why people doubt him over and over again

DrJules
03-19-2012, 08:08 PM
on this court he cant beat him....nobody can except Novak.....this is like clay

Interestingly he has never won the title and lost to so many different players over the years; Djokovic, Roddick, Del Potro, Davydenko, Moya and Federer:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Rafael-Nadal.aspx?t=pa&y=0&m=s&e=403#

Saberq
03-19-2012, 08:11 PM
Interestingly he has never won the title and lost to so many different players over the years; Djokovic, Roddick, Del Potro, Davydenko, Moya and Federer:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Rafael-Nadal.aspx?t=pa&y=0&m=s&e=403#

surface was never this slow as in 2011 and 2012

reery
03-19-2012, 08:14 PM
Interestingly he has never won the title and lost to so many different players over the years; Djokovic, Roddick, Del Potro, Davydenko, Moya and Federer:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Rafael-Nadal.aspx?t=pa&y=0&m=s&e=403#


He's lost to so many players in Miami that even if Murray loses early, Nadal could lose to somebody else before the finals

abraxas21
03-19-2012, 08:14 PM
tough draw for fernando gonzález

don't see him making past the second round in his last tournament

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 08:18 PM
I hope Mahut beats him. Yeah, it's his last event, but that's the point. Mahut is playing beyond Miami and could use the points.

JediFed
03-19-2012, 08:21 PM
Excellent draw for Haas. Haas vs Q.

DorianGray7
03-19-2012, 08:30 PM
Mahut is retiring?

wow. I always felt him and Llodra could make the best doubles team in the world.

Clydey
03-19-2012, 08:30 PM
andy is very irregular.



Needs more fibre in his diet.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 08:30 PM
Tommy will withdraw, IMO.

And no, Mahut is not retiring. Gonzalez is and Mahut plays Gonzalez in R1 here.

DorianGray7
03-19-2012, 08:32 PM
Roger can win this again. Seriously.

Look at the draw. Djokovic has Bagdathis (former top 10 player during the Roger era) then Del Po in the QF. Roger Federer will have chances against Djokovic as well. Nadal has Isner potentially in the QF and then Murray. If they meet in the final Roger will have chances against Nadal as well. Roger owns Del Po, Isner, and Murray (at least this year).

So Roger has chances. Maybe even a decent one. The question is will MTF implode and get sucked into a black hole if he does. >_>

Mateya
03-19-2012, 08:39 PM
Starace - Harrison :cheerleader:
Seppi is slightly injured, retired in that big challenger last week against Haas :(

Ferrer - Tomic would be an interesting 2nd round match. Hoping for a demolition job from Ferrer, sending Tomic back to his new BMW, but Tomic must beat Stakh first.

HKz
03-19-2012, 08:41 PM
The winner will come from the top half for sure. Murray is too questionable to count on right now, Nadal is also questionable at this event as he hasn't had anywhere near as much success here as he has had in IW. Honestly, between Federer and Djokovic. Considering the mental strength and confidence of Federer at this point in time and Djokovic's somewhat loose head in tough matches since Australia, I still have to give the edge to Federer if they meet. Monfils is the only possibly tough opponent depending on which Monfils shows up if they meet, however, Federer should cruise to the SF. I think Federer will take it. Miami has been a really streaky tournament for Djokovic going W > 2rd > F > 2rd > W over the past 5 years. If he meets Baghdatis, there could be some possibility of a 2rd loss especially considering his mental state at the moment. Really tough call honestly, as once should theoretically pick Federer when looking at everyone's most recent form, but who really knows how long he can keep this up.

Either way, I really doubt Nadal will win this tournament. Who knows how well he is going to play and considering he has never won Miami, I'm not sure he will start now.

JurajCrane
03-19-2012, 08:42 PM
Lacko vs. Sweeting in first round, good draw. Very winnable match, I want to see him against Nadal in 4th round.

Allez
03-19-2012, 08:49 PM
Fantastic draw for Rafa. Horrific draw for Nole but Fed had a tough draw at IW and still won so maybe Nole will do the same.

Rogi has a tricky draw...but I can't wait for the 3rd round Roddick encounter IF they both get there. Thank god Del Potro is not in Fed's quarter! I want him to go far.

Murray to at least reach the semis taking out the trash along the way :yeah:

This poll is shaping up to be an epic fail...When will MTF learn :lol:

hipolymer
03-19-2012, 08:49 PM
Nadal gets an easy draw? No surprise there. He's been getting easy draws for the past seven years.

coonster14
03-19-2012, 08:56 PM
Roger vs A-Rod 3rd round :lol:, poor Andy, the draw gods are against him.

Blake vs Davy, wonder if Davy can finally get a win over him this time around.

Very happy to see that Delpo is in Nole's quarter of the draw, hoping for a Nole/Delpo QF, but before that, Delpo/Pics R4 :)

Murray vs Raonic will be interesting, definitely one that I'm going to watch, possible rematch in R2 with Nalby vs Tipsy

I see Roger getting to the SF, hopefully against Nole, and Rafa should get to the final with his draw.

HKz
03-19-2012, 08:57 PM
Nadal gets an easy draw? No surprise there. He's been getting easy draws for the past seven years.

Yet he has never won Miami.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 09:01 PM
Nadal will win Miami this time if Del Potro vs Djokovic is a battle, hard match. If it is, it will soften the winner of that match for Roger, and Roger will beat the winner of that QF match. I don't see Nadal losing to Roger here. That's my prediction.

Corey Feldman
03-19-2012, 09:03 PM
Fed of course, best player in the world

Saberq
03-19-2012, 09:05 PM
Nadal will win Miami this time if Del Potro vs Djokovic is a battle, hard match. If it is, it will soften the winner of that match for Roger, and Roger will beat the winner of that QF match. I don't see Nadal losing to Roger here. That's my prediction.

you make a mistake in thinking that Novak will have stamina problems if he has a 3 setter against Del Potro

Allez
03-19-2012, 09:06 PM
Nadal will win Miami this time if Del Potro vs Djokovic is a battle, hard match. If it is, it will soften the winner of that match for Roger, and Roger will beat the winner of that QF match. I don't see Nadal losing to Roger here. That's my prediction.

Roger does not need Nole to soften Del Potro up to beat him :)

Allez
03-19-2012, 09:08 PM
Nadal will win Miami this time if Del Potro vs Djokovic is a battle, hard match. If it is, it will soften the winner of that match for Roger, and Roger will beat the winner of that QF match. I don't see Nadal losing to Roger here. That's my prediction.

However I do agree that should Roger and Rafa both reach the final (Big IF in Roger's case), then Rafa will walk it. High bounce to Rogi's backhand and the match is over.

deyaT87
03-19-2012, 09:12 PM
:facepalm: oh noooo R3 Federer-Roddick
worst possible 3rd round for Andy
:mad:

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 09:12 PM
you make a mistake in thinking that Novak will have stamina problems if he has a 3 setter against Del Potro
No, I don't make no mistake there. Del Potro-Djokovic, let's say it's an afternoon match, the star afternoon match of the day. It will be probably between 80-90 degrees, humid, sun out, and both these guys are offensive grinders. They'll be running a lot. Do that for over 2 hours, then come back the next day and play Roger, whose had an easy draw, is confident, fresh and motivated. Not gonna be a good thing for Djokovic at all, since even though he's been beating Roger a lot, Roger has shown he can beat Nole as well, obviously, and the two always play tight matches. That advantage isn't going to be enough like it would be against Nadal where he doesn't feel like he can lose, really. So the way I see it, Roger is in a great position to make the finals.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 09:15 PM
However I do agree that should Roger and Rafa both reach the final (Big IF in Roger's case), then Rafa will walk it. High bounce to Rogi's backhand and the match is over.Yup. Humid conditions, will be slow, and if it's hot and sunny, the balls will be jumping off the court. Plus with the humidity the balls will be much heavier, which will make it more difficult for Fed to attack. Rafa really, for me, cannot pass up this opportunity. This is really a golden chance for him to win his first Miami title.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 09:17 PM
Roger does not need Nole to soften Del Potro up to beat him :):lol: Djokovic will find a way to beat DelPo, but hey, you never know. It would be Del Potro's best win since his comeback, and he's had some great wins in Miami, plus he'll have the crowd support.

reery
03-19-2012, 09:18 PM
Either way, I really doubt Nadal will win this tournament. Who knows how well he is going to play and considering he has never won Miami, I'm not sure he will start now.

He couldn't win Miami in 2009 when he had huge confidence after winning AO and IW. Doubt that he is going to win it in 2012 with this title drought he has now since winning RG. His title drought will surely end on clay.

hipolymer
03-19-2012, 09:26 PM
All Nole needs is a tough draw. He excels when he has to play difficult opponents like he did at AO. He will get more time on court and that's all good because after being away from competition for so long all he needs now is matches. And now that everyone is hyping Federer to no end, he will be able to advance without much noise and give the death blow.

I completely agree. Nole does best when no one expects him to win.

Corey Feldman
03-19-2012, 09:26 PM
good old Monte Carlo always comes to the rescue of Rafal

HKz
03-19-2012, 09:28 PM
I completely agree. Nole does best when no one expects him to win.

2009/2010 plenty of times there where no one placed him on their list to win an event yet he was losing. Hell, Murray was picked more often than Djokovic sometimes during those two years.

FedvsNole
03-19-2012, 10:01 PM
which half is starting play on friday? Novak or Rafa?

MaxPower
03-19-2012, 10:05 PM
Poor Roddick. That H2H aint gonna get any prettier. Feels like Federer got a very solid shot at the double combo of IW and Miami. Murray needs to get his shit together or he's out early. Nadal/Djokovic probably can grind their way to QF/SF at least. from there we'll see

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 10:06 PM
Now, putting aside all the uninteresting players, let's get down to the nitty gritty:

First of all, Dimitrov has a must win match with Kukushkin. Then with Chela in the next round, he has a definite opportunity here in Miami to attain some good points. I actually would favor Chela over Grigor if they play, however. Grigor won't get many better opportunities at a Masters event like this so he needs to take advantage and firm up a top 100 ranking in time for the French and Wimbledon cutoffs.

Stebe playing Cipolla. Flavio lost heavily to Andreev last week and Stebe should dominate with his forehand in this match. He needs to win here. The courts should suit his game the way he wants. Gasquet is likely too much for him, but with the way he lost to Ramos he can't feel as if he's without a shot there. It's time for Cedrik to prove himself off clay and this is a good opportunity for that.

Rochus vs Becker sucks, two favorites. Olli is defending a ton of points here. The winner has a great shot vs Benneteau and needs to take advantage.

Rendy playing Nieminen, to play Monaco. Pico is probably too much, but Nieminen is winnable. Rendy needs to start stepping it up and this is a good opportunity. Pico isn't totally out of the possibility of a win, and then potentially Monfils or Gulbis. He'll need to be in high level form to make it out of this section, but I think he can do it. Hopefully, at least, he beats Nieminen.

Muller vs Bogomolov. Will be difficult for Gilles to win this, but if he controls his service games, he'll have opportunities to break. If he serves well, he can beat Bogomolov and Roddick and make the third round. Hopefully he does just that and plays aggressive tennis.

I hope Ebden beats Querrey so Sam falls out of the top 100. Ebden has a good shot at the R16 here. GL to Chardy/Qualifier vs Fish. Mardy will be feeling the pressure and it's a good opportunity to take him out while his form is shaky.

Mahut needs to take out Gonzo. Gonzo has barely been playing, and Nicolas should put the pressure on him and force him to hit BH passing shots. Serve well and he has a great shot at winning that match.

Hopefully X-Man and Sela get weak qualifiers and can win a match here.

Fred Gil playing Bellucci R1 will be tough. It's winnable but difficult. Kohlschreiber is probably a level too much, Kohli will like these courts as much as Fred, but it's not impossible. Not a good draw but he can take care of at least his R1 match and beat Bellucci.

Picasso must take out Dodig. Picasso vs Mayer will be a interesting match and hopefully the winner of that match can make it competitive at least in R3.

As I said before, I expect an R3 performance from Kunitsyn. Levine, then Cilic. Back-to-back extremely winnable matches for Igor. He needs to take advantage and solidify his ranking. He's done well in Miami and can do so again here.

GL to all my favorites in qualifying as well, several spots of the draw here are very comfortable for qualifiers, although not as good as Indian Wells. The Qualifier/Qualifier/Troicki section just screams R3 result. Qualifier/Haas/Stepanek is also extremely doable, as is Qualifier/Ramos/Lopez.

Allez
03-19-2012, 10:15 PM
Now, putting aside all the uninteresting players, let's get down to the nitty gritty:

First of all, Dimitrov has a must win match with Kukushkin. Then with Chela in the next round, he has a definite opportunity here in Miami to attain some good points. I actually would favor Chela over Grigor if they play, however. Grigor won't get many better opportunities at a Masters event like this so he needs to take advantage and firm up a top 100 ranking in time for the French and Wimbledon cutoffs.

Stebe playing Cipolla. Flavio lost heavily to Andreev last week and Stebe should dominate with his forehand in this match. He needs to win here. The courts should suit his game the way he wants. Gasquet is likely too much for him, but with the way he lost to Ramos he can't feel as if he's without a shot there. It's time for Cedrik to prove himself off clay and this is a good opportunity for that.

Rochus vs Becker sucks, two favorites. Olli is defending a ton of points here. The winner has a great shot vs Benneteau and needs to take advantage.

Redy playing Nieminen, to play Monaco. Pico is probably too much, but Nieminen is winnable. Rendy needs to start stepping it up and this is a good opportunity. Pico isn't totally out of the possibility of a win, and then potentially Monfils or Gulbis. He'll need to be in high level form to make it out of this section, but I think he can do it. Hopefully, at least, he beats Nieminen.

Muller vs Bogomolov. Will be difficult for Gilles to win this, but if he controls his service games, he'll have opportunities to break. If he serves well, he can beat Bogomolov and Roddick and make the third round. Hopefully he does just that and plays aggressive tennis.

I hope Ebden beats Querrey so Sam falls out of the top 100. Ebden has a good shot at the R16 here. GL to Chardy/Qualifier vs Fish. Mardy will be feeling the pressure and it's a good opportunity to take him out while his form is shaky.

Mahut needs to take out Gonzo. Gonzo has barely been playing, and Nicolas should put the pressure on him and force him to hit BH passing shots. Serve well and he has a great shot at winning that match.

Hopefully X-Man and Sela get weak qualifiers and can win a match here.

Fred Gil playing Bellucci R1 will be tough. It's winnable but difficult. Kohlschreiber is probably a level too much, Kohli will like these courts as much as Fred, but it's not impossible. Not a good draw but he can take care of at least his R1 match and beat Bellucci.

Picasso must take out Dodig. Picasso vs Mayer will be a interesting match and hopefully the winner of that match can make it competitive at least in R3.

As I said before, I expect an R3 performance from Kunitsyn. Levine, then Cilic. Back-to-back extremely winnable matches for Igor. He needs to take advantage and solidify his ranking. He's done well in Miami and can do so again here.

GL to all my favorites in qualifying as well, several spots of the draw here are very comfortable for qualifiers, although not as good as Indian Wells. The Qualifier/Qualifier/Troicki section just screams R3 result. Qualifier/Haas/Stepanek is also extremely doable, as is Qualifier/Ramos/Lopez.

Great preview. Grigor has to prove himself here. No doubt about it. He's got to make it count. Chela is a solid player and will be the favourite should they meet, but there's no easy road to the top. Sooner or later Dimitrov has to start beating these players on a regular basis.

Saberq
03-19-2012, 10:16 PM
which half is starting play on friday? Novak or Rafa?

Novak is playing on Friday a night match

Time Violation
03-19-2012, 10:22 PM
Novak is playing on Friday a night match

Nope, Nole will play night match (8 pm) on Saturday, not Friday.

henke007
03-19-2012, 10:25 PM
Perfect Draw for Roger to cruise to semi's :)

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 10:27 PM
Great preview. Grigor has to prove himself here. No doubt about it. He's got to make it count. Chela is a solid player and will be the favourite should they meet, but there's no easy road to the top. Sooner or later Dimitrov has to start beating these players on a regular basis.Thank you and yeah, it's time for Grigor to show he can win matches like the ones he has here in Miami. Kukushkin then Chela, he can't ask for much more than that. At the same time these guys look at Grigor as a winnable match. Chela is the type of player that is like the perfect gatekeeper for a young player like Dimitrov. He'll make Grigor earn it should they play and hopefully Grigor wouldn't get flustered in that match. If you want to be a top 50 player it's opportunities like this one must take advantage of.

MuzzahLovah
03-19-2012, 10:30 PM
Grigor is not beaking Kuku. Kuku is a fighter and has played well this year. Grigor will give up in the tiebreaks sadly.

henke007
03-19-2012, 10:34 PM
Raonic will take out Murray in R3 as i predicted. And Fit Dave to take out Fixarevic early. The draw is near perfection this time.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 10:35 PM
Kuku isn't shit, fighting can't hide a total lack of ability. He hasn't even played in over a month due to injury. Grigor will probably win 6-2 6-2.

Filo V.
03-19-2012, 10:35 PM
Murray will either lose R2 or make a deep-ish run here. He won't lose to Raonic. Perfect match-up for Andy.

BauerAlmeida
03-19-2012, 10:36 PM
I want to see Murray-Nalbandian in QF, although both may loose earlier.

RandomChiller
03-19-2012, 10:52 PM
I want to see Murray-Nalbandian in QF, although both may loose earlier.

This.

FedvsNole
03-19-2012, 10:59 PM
People on this website let the most recent results deter logic. Here's who has the best chance to win this miami tournament:

1. Nole: was in solid form by the end of indian wells. STILL THE MAN to beat there.

2. Nadal: after a 1 month break still reached the semis in indian wells; has a favorable draw and should make it to the finals.

3. Andy murray: gotta be hungry after getting beat early. With lendl's help he should make a deep run here and will be very fresh provided he gets through istomin, raonic matches which he should he'll be ok till the semis.

4. Federer: Unexpected win last week while sick and playing a lot of matches put him last on this list. He's gotta be super happy to be where he's at and prolly isn't expecting much. However, not having a nightmare draw like in indian wells and not having the flu this time, I would hope would allow him to get past Harrison, Roddick, Monfils, and either almagro/fish to have the semifinals vs djokovic who will prolly play del po in the late match thursday night before the semis the next day. Would consider fed's performance fine even if he loses to nole in the semis since he would have defended his points.

I feeel nole wins the tournament. Nadal won't make it to the finals. Federer will get to he semis and lose to nole. Murray will stop losing early and actually have a deep run for once.

LisaKoh
03-19-2012, 11:06 PM
Davydenko and Blake is a first rounder. Ack. Murray and Raonic to meet up in R3, let's see if he can do anything against Murray. (Doubt it, though. Murray is a good returner which neutralizes Raonic's weapon)

Simon has a good chance for the R16 if he beats Melzer. Berdych and Gonzalez R2. :( Hope Berdych has a brain fart and lets Gonzo have a good tournament. Tsonga-Malisse looks good, Isner has a crap draw with Davy or Blake in R2. Nadal's draw is soft, nobody there to really trouble him.

Djokovic seems ok, Baghdatis in the first round is tricky but after that he has his music video costar and then Feli. Nobody should trouble him until Del Potro in the QFs.

Nightmare Draw awardee: Andy Murray.

guga2120
03-19-2012, 11:21 PM
Novak for the win, and to take out the trash in the sf.

FedvsNole
03-19-2012, 11:32 PM
Novak for the win, and to take out the trash in the sf.


This guy is too hilarious. Someone dug into posts circa 2005-2007 and found this guy was a certified fed-tard.

Obviouly novak is going to win this tournament. Is he also now your favorite?

Arkulari
03-20-2012, 12:07 AM
Guys, I'm confused because in the link in OP I see Roger and Nole in different sides :scratch:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/403/mds.pdf

HKz
03-20-2012, 12:11 AM
This guy is too hilarious. Someone dug into posts circa 2005-2007 and found this guy was a certified fed-tard.

Obviouly novak is going to win this tournament. Is he also now your favorite?

Yeah he is pretty pathetic.

mbest
03-20-2012, 12:16 AM
Guys, I'm confused because in the link in OP I see Roger and Nole in different sides :scratch:

The draw is two pages.

Arkulari
03-20-2012, 12:17 AM
[QUOTE=Arkulari;11837552]Guys, I'm confused because in the link in OP I see Roger and Nole in different sides :scratch:

The draw is two pages.

Oh yes, my bad :)

Silvester
03-20-2012, 12:17 AM
Guys, I'm confused because in the link in OP I see Roger and Nole in different sides :scratch:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/403/mds.pdf


Thats the top HALF, bottom half on Page 2. :)

paseo
03-20-2012, 02:41 AM
Nadal's luck is just too good. Cake draw, back to back.

BroTree123
03-20-2012, 02:43 AM
Poor Fena Gonzalez :sad:. Mahut, then Berdych :sobbing:.

Anyways looks like Overrankedsarevic is going to get binned by FATian back-to-back times.

Malisse will cruise against Clownga in the opener. NID.

Fish's ridiculous cake draw :o.

Nole could lose R2 to Baggy :shrug:.

Istomin to destroy Murray in opener 6-2, 6-2 :drool:.

Bulgetosevic will edge past Haase in a tense encounter 6-1, 6-0.

Revan
03-20-2012, 03:09 AM
Fed cruises to final.

tribalfusion
03-20-2012, 03:15 AM
People on this website let the most recent results deter logic. Here's who has the best chance to win this miami tournament:


2. Nadal: after a 1 month break still reached the semis in indian wells; has a favorable draw and should make it to the finals.


Nadal won't make it to the finals.

So which is it? :)

BroTree123
03-20-2012, 03:24 AM
^^
What the brainfuck lol?

FedvsNole
03-20-2012, 03:29 AM
People on this website let the most recent results deter logic. Here's who has the best chance to win this miami tournament:

1. Nole: was in solid form by the end of indian wells. STILL THE MAN to beat there.

2. Nadal: after a 1 month break still reached the semis in indian wells; has a favorable draw and should make it to the finals.

3. Andy murray: gotta be hungry after getting beat early. With lendl's help he should make a deep run here and will be very fresh provided he gets through istomin, raonic matches which he should he'll be ok till the semis.

4. Federer: Unexpected win last week while sick and playing a lot of matches put him last on this list. He's gotta be super happy to be where he's at and prolly isn't expecting much. However, not having a nightmare draw like in indian wells and not having the flu this time, I would hope would allow him to get past Harrison, Roddick, Monfils, and either almagro/fish to have the semifinals vs djokovic who will prolly play del po in the late match thursday night before the semis the next day. Would consider fed's performance fine even if he loses to nole in the semis since he would have defended his points.

I feeel nole wins the tournament. Nadal won't make it to the finals. Federer will get to he semis and lose to nole. Murray will stop losing early and actually have a deep run for once.




I was breaking everyone's chances down in the start and saying with the type of draw nadull has he should make the finals. The bottom part is where i give my opinion ( " I feel") on what i think will happen = nole winning, rafa not making the finals even though he should make it based on his draw and form; fed losing to nole.

Allez
03-20-2012, 07:15 AM
Guys, I'm confused because in the link in OP I see Roger and Nole in different sides :scratch:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/403/mds.pdf

Different sides of the top half...

Pirata.
03-20-2012, 07:42 AM
andy is very irregular.

http://www.thirdage.com/files/originals/activia-yogurt.jpg

Lestat
03-20-2012, 07:45 AM
cant wait to see Fitdave destroying andys ass

STUHL
03-20-2012, 08:57 AM
Fred Gil playing Bellucci R1 will be tough. It's winnable but difficult. Kohlschreiber is probably a level too much, Kohli will like these courts as much as Fred, but it's not impossible. Not a good draw but he can take care of at least his R1 match and beat Bellucci.

I don't think Kohli likes this courts here. He hasn't won aMatch here, just one win when his opoonent retired,so Kohli isn't that clear favorite against either Bellucci or Gil.

Yves.
03-20-2012, 09:14 AM
Kubot-Karlovic again!
Stebe should finally win a match.
Could Haase beat Matosevic?

MachineGun
03-20-2012, 09:56 AM
I think Nadal and Murray have the most difficult draws for this tournament.
This Miami masters will be more than interesting for sure.

As for the winner prediction, I think it will all depend on the Top Half semifinals. Between Djokovic and Federer that is.


Anyway... Go Roger!

BroTree123
03-20-2012, 10:03 AM
Cipolla will probably edge Stebe 1-6, 7-6(9), 6-0 after trailing 1-6, 0-4 :facepalm:.

Nole fan
03-20-2012, 11:10 AM
I think Nadal and Murray have the most difficult draws for this tournament.
This Miami masters will be more than interesting for sure.

As for the winner prediction, I think it will all depend on the Top Half semifinals. Between Djokovic and Federer that is.


Anyway... Go Roger!

Nadal has a difficult draw? are you joking? :spit:
By far Nole has got the worst draw, followed by Murray.
Fedal have equally easy draws.

Filo V.
03-20-2012, 12:01 PM
I don't think Kohli likes this courts here. He hasn't won aMatch here, just one win when his opoonent retired,so Kohli isn't that clear favorite against either Bellucci or Gil.He's gotten bad draws, I saw his Miami record last night. But you're right in that he's never won here. I hope Fred beats him, honestly, although I like Kohli, Gil needs it more than him. Although I think Kohli has a better chance of beating Gil than beating Bellucci.

Filo V.
03-20-2012, 12:10 PM
Stakhovsky v Tomic is another interesting match. The Ukraine has the type of game that should get under Tomic's skin. I think Sergiy should win there, and he would give potential problems to Ferrer in R2.

Davydenko should beat Blake. He'll never have a better opportunity. The reason he's had problems with James is because James has been able to get on top of rallies immediately due to Davydenko's weak serve and Davydenko hasn't been able to move James around due to James' speed. But this is 2012 and James isn't 100%. The Russian I expect will beat Blake, and then beat Isner.

Filo V.
03-20-2012, 12:18 PM
Also, Kubot will likely beat Ivo again. The humidity of the conditions in Miami will mean Karlovic's serve won't have the same amount of juice on it since the balls are heavy and the air is heavy. Kubot will be able to return his serve and beat him in rallies. If Kubot plays well and believes in himself, he can definitely test Del Potro in R2.

LisaKoh
03-20-2012, 12:23 PM
Nadal has a difficult draw? are you joking? :spit:
By far Nole has got the worst draw, followed by Murray.
Fedal have equally easy draws.

I think Murray has the toughest draw and then Djokovic. But I'll try to double check and verify if Novak's draw is indeed a tough one.

Murray's goes like this:

Istomin, Raonic, Simon/Melzer, Berdych/Nalbandian/random person/Nadal

Djokovic's

Baghdatis, Troicki, Lopez, Del Potro/Ferrer/Federer (or Muller or Monfils)

I have not seen enough of Baghdatis lately to gauge if he's playing well or not but I think Djoker has a comfortable H2H against him. Troicki is someone he should handle, Feli isn't really a factor on slow hard courts, it's Del Potro or Ferrer who could give him trouble.

Murray has Istomin (who has some form), Raonic (who is confident now), Simon (Push and Bulge King), Nalbandian or Berdbrain and then Nadal.

Have to give the "tough draw" award to Murray although Djoker's is not a walk in the park either.

Nole fan
03-20-2012, 01:06 PM
I think Murray has the toughest draw and then Djokovic. But I'll try to double check and verify if Novak's draw is indeed a tough one.

Murray's goes like this:

Istomin, Raonic, Simon/Melzer, Berdych/Nalbandian/random person/Nadal

Djokovic's

Baghdatis, Troicki, Lopez, Del Potro/Ferrer/Federer (or Muller or Monfils)

I have not seen enough of Baghdatis lately to gauge if he's playing well or not but I think Djoker has a comfortable H2H against him. Troicki is someone he should handle, Feli isn't really a factor on slow hard courts, it's Del Potro or Ferrer who could give him trouble.

Murray has Istomin (who has some form), Raonic (who is confident now), Simon (Push and Bulge King), Nalbandian or Berdbrain and then Nadal.

Have to give the "tough draw" award to Murray although Djoker's is not a walk in the park either.

Istomin will be easy peasy for Murray, Raonic could give him some trouble but I don't expect him to, the courts are too slow, and then Simon is another pusher (Andy is a much better pusher than him, so no match here). Berdych could cause some trouble but he always disappoints in the end, Nalby is no factor and Nadal is in no good form.
Instead, Baghdatis already gave Nole some trouble last time they met, tough match for a first/second round. Troicki he can handle easily and Feli as well, but Delpo and Ferrer are probably the toughest rivals he can meet before reaching the semifinals. Of all 4 he has it the hardest.

Sofonda Cox
03-20-2012, 01:12 PM
Nole could lose R2 to Baggy :shrug:

:hearts: I hope so. Good for the game if he does.

VolandriFan
03-20-2012, 01:18 PM
Andujar vs Giraldo is certainly an interesting one.

Mario000
03-20-2012, 02:56 PM
Can Nalbandian make it to the 1/4finals?

DorianGray7
03-20-2012, 03:25 PM
Roger Federer will have no problems until Djokovic. Even on this court he will have his chances. Federer has not gotten epic-beatdowns from Djokovic like he had from Nadal and all their matches have been close.

I want to see how Nole-tard (Nole fan) reacts if Roger straight sets him since Nole fan writes off Federer at every single tournament (even Rotterdam :facepalm:). Puts the 24-year old punk back in his place. 31 year old still owning the 20-year olds. How does that feel?

LisaKoh
03-20-2012, 03:28 PM
Istomin will be easy peasy for Murray, Raonic could give him some trouble but I don't expect him to, the courts are too slow, and then Simon is another pusher (Andy is a much better pusher than him, so no match here). Berdych could cause some trouble but he always disappoints in the end, Nalby is no factor and Nadal is in no good form.
Instead, Baghdatis already gave Nole some trouble last time they met, tough match for a first/second round. Troicki he can handle easily and Feli as well, but Delpo and Ferrer are probably the toughest rivals he can meet before reaching the semifinals. Of all 4 he has it the hardest.

Djokovic can probably exploit Del Potro's movement, I think he'd rather play Del Potro than Ferrer. I know you're rooting for Nole but I'm salivating at the prospect of a Nole-Delpo QF. Should be some good tennis there. Basically, I am rooting for Del Potro to play any other member of the Big 4 except for Federer, I'm sick of seeing them drawn together and it's only March. I want to see Del Po's level and if he's capable of playing well against the other big boys. Then again, he could lose to Ferrer too.

Federer is, in my mind, a non-factor in the SFs. Not to denigrate him but he's too old to pull off another IW-Miami double. He'll probably show up to defend his SF points and then it's vacation time.

I don't think Nadal is an easy opponent for anybody in the SFs. He's going to be motivated to win this thing.

I think Miami will bring us another installment of Nadal-Djokovic XXXI in the final which should be pretty exciting.

Nole fan
03-20-2012, 03:43 PM
Djokovic can probably exploit Del Potro's movement, I think he'd rather play Del Potro than Ferrer. I know you're rooting for Nole but I'm salivating at the prospect of a Nole-Delpo QF. Should be some good tennis there. Basically, I am rooting for Del Potro to play any other member of the Big 4 except for Federer, I'm sick of seeing them drawn together and it's only March. I want to see Del Po's level and if he's capable of playing well against the other big boys. Then again, he could lose to Ferrer too.

Federer is, in my mind, a non-factor in the SFs. Not to denigrate him but he's too old to pull off another IW-Miami double. He'll probably show up to defend his SF points and then it's vacation time.

I don't think Nadal is an easy opponent for anybody in the SFs. He's going to be motivated to win this thing.

I think Miami will bring us another installment of Nadal-Djokovic XXXI in the final which should be pretty exciting.

I agree. Nadal-Djoko is the most probable final and the order will be restored soon.
I'm not sure Delpo can beat any of the Top 4 yet, it looks like they still have his number. But if anyone has to do it I prefer it's him. :)

Saberq
03-20-2012, 03:44 PM
Roger Federer will have no problems until Djokovic. Even on this court he will have his chances. Federer has not gotten epic-beatdowns from Djokovic like he had from Nadal and all their matches have been close.

I want to see how Nole-tard (Nole fan) reacts if Roger straight sets him since Nole fan writes off Federer at every single tournament (even Rotterdam :facepalm:). Puts the 24-year old punk back in his place. 31 year old still owning the 20-year olds. How does that feel?

he wont..........he cant.........I like how you think that Roger's form now is godlike or something......

Nole fan
03-20-2012, 03:51 PM
Roger Federer will have no problems until Djokovic. Even on this court he will have his chances. Federer has not gotten epic-beatdowns from Djokovic like he had from Nadal and all their matches have been close.

I want to see how Nole-tard (Nole fan) reacts if Roger straight sets him since Nole fan writes off Federer at every single tournament (even Rotterdam :facepalm:). Puts the 24-year old punk back in his place. 31 year old still owning the 20-year olds. How does that feel?

I don't think Federer is owning any of the other Top 4 but if it makes you happy to think so... :)

Let's see... since 2011:
Fed h2h Novak 1-4
Fed h2h Murray 1-0 (they didn't play at all last year)
Fed h2h Nadal 2-4

And I didn't write him off at every single tournament. I have been aways from the forums for three months so I don't know what you get that from. Actually if you read the IW semifinal thread I wrote there that Federer played a great match and he looked at times like vintage Fed, he was unplayable. I don't like Federer but I can give him credit when it's due. :wavey:

Mateya
03-20-2012, 04:27 PM
:cheerleader:
Seppi vs. qualifier
Still tough, qualifiers are dangerous because they are already used to the conditions here.

Chela is again 29th seed. :lol:
Plays Dimugtrov or Kukuškin in the 2nd round.

Starace - Harrison
The winner will play Featherer in the 2nd round.

:hatoff:

NJ88
03-20-2012, 04:34 PM
Fed and Nadal have fairly easy draws up until the semi-final.

All I ask is Murray to not lose in round two again, get to round three and he atleast gains some points!

Mystique
03-20-2012, 04:55 PM
Funny how Federer is suddenly the favourite in these slow surfaces now according to MTF :facepalm:

hiperborejac
03-20-2012, 04:56 PM
Hope for Novak-Fed semi. Nole needs Fedal again to boost his form again. If it happens we'll see did his level dropped intentionally and does he saving himself for slams.

koslav85
03-20-2012, 04:58 PM
Djokovic or Nadal ...memo to all : pray for death ....the movement of death along with topspin forehand of doom will dominate this event along with clay season...Nole and Rafa for the win.

Stronga23
03-20-2012, 04:59 PM
Gael and Jo just make it to Roger and Rafa please. Monfils has done a good job so far losing to Berdych and Tsonga he couldnt serve 100 mph in the Kukushkin loss so he gets a pass. Jo however has some scratchy losses.

TheBaker
03-20-2012, 05:04 PM
If Murray gets by istomin in his first match he should make the semis. If he plays Simon that would probably he his toughest test but he would likely go through.

Johnny Iznrr
03-20-2012, 05:05 PM
John has a tough 1t round, if he can get through that depending on how old man Davydenko or old man Blake are feeling Mayer is a great seed to draw. Tsonga will be tough but I'm not sure he'll even make it past Bellucci. If Johnny has the energy he could beat Rafa and make the semi (where I assume he'll lose to Murray) but I'm not sure if he' quite at the level of back to back good results yet. Either way, not too much pressure imo, clay season for me is more important to see if he can get into the 4,000 point range.

I predict Roger to win just because Novak doesn't look good and will lose to Del Potro and Nadal will not make the final. Could be a Ljubicic/Roddick type winner though.

DorianGray7
03-20-2012, 09:14 PM
I agree. Nadal-Djoko is the most probable final and the order will be restored soon.
I'm not sure Delpo can beat any of the Top 4 yet, it looks like they still have his number. But if anyone has to do it I prefer it's him. :)

Don't you think the winner of the Fed-Djokovic SF will be the winner of the tournament.

I am dying for Fed-Djokovic. The Serbian bombed out of all the tournaments where he and Fed was supposed to meet since the USO. Basel, WTF, Dubai... Roger needs to prove himself once more by defeating evil once again. Save the world tonight!

2012 Federer hit list.
Del Po - 4x check (owned)
Nadal - check
Murray - check
"The Serbian" - TBD

Allez
03-20-2012, 09:22 PM
Fed being the favourite :haha: :haha: There will be tears... :lol:

Sofonda Cox
03-20-2012, 09:29 PM
Fed being the favourite :haha: :haha: There will be tears... :lol:

When Nadull and Faker lose there will be :)

Tennis-Life
03-20-2012, 09:34 PM
I am looking forward to Djokovic-Federer match :sport:

Saberq
03-20-2012, 09:52 PM
Don't you think the winner of the Fed-Djokovic SF will be the winner of the tournament.

I am dying for Fed-Djokovic. The Serbian bombed out of all the tournaments where he and Fed was supposed to meet since the USO. Basel, WTF, Dubai... Roger needs to prove himself once more by defeating evil once again. Save the world tonight!

2012 Federer hit list.
Del Po - 4x check (owned)
Nadal - check
Murray - check
"The Serbian" - TBD

you should be fucking banned .....forever

Saberq
03-20-2012, 09:52 PM
John has a tough 1t round, if he can get through that depending on how old man Davydenko or old man Blake are feeling Mayer is a great seed to draw. Tsonga will be tough but I'm not sure he'll even make it past Bellucci. If Johnny has the energy he could beat Rafa and make the semi (where I assume he'll lose to Murray) but I'm not sure if he' quite at the level of back to back good results yet. Either way, not too much pressure imo, clay season for me is more important to see if he can get into the 4,000 point range.

I predict Roger to win just because Novak doesn't look good and will lose to Del Potro and Nadal will not make the final. Could be a Ljubicic/Roddick type winner though.

Nole to lose to Delpo hahahha

HDW
03-20-2012, 09:59 PM
Nole to step shit up. Really cant see fed winning b2b

FedvsNole
03-20-2012, 10:16 PM
I had posed a question about court conditions and how similar/different miami was to indian wells. I got my answer confirmed based on brad gilbert's comments below:

Heard from a very reliable source: Courts are playing much quicker this yr-not much grit-very unusual for MIAMI, big hitters will like that.

The final is not for another 12 days or such. Add in all the men/women/dubs who play on that court it should be getting only quicker by the time the semis/finals of the tournament air. Let's not forget miami is already in the low 80s and super sunny and will only get warmer as we get to the end of the month. The final is played in the heat of the day 1230pm-1.


Delpo match for nole now probably much more dangerous than before.

LinkMage
03-21-2012, 02:44 AM
Nadull :zzz:

All draws fixed by Uncle Toni

gulzhan
03-21-2012, 02:51 AM
LinkMage :zzz:

Seriously, change the tune, mate! :hug:

MuzzahLovah
03-21-2012, 03:06 AM
I had posed a question about court conditions and how similar/different miami was to indian wells. I got my answer confirmed based on brad gilbert's comments below:

Heard from a very reliable source: Courts are playing much quicker this yr-not much grit-very unusual for MIAMI, big hitters will like that.

The final is not for another 12 days or such. Add in all the men/women/dubs who play on that court it should be getting only quicker by the time the semis/finals of the tournament air. Let's not forget miami is already in the low 80s and super sunny and will only get warmer as we get to the end of the month. The final is played in the heat of the day 1230pm-1.


Delpo match for nole now probably much more dangerous than before.

I always though the slowness in Miami was primarily due to the humidity.

Also, I don't know who would take advantage of that. Big Hitter Berdych lost to Murray on the fast Dubai court, likewise with Del Po vs. Fed in Rotterdam. And the slow court in IW didn't help Nadal or Djokovic.

BroTree123
03-21-2012, 04:29 AM
LinkMug, your man is doing well. What more do you want :confused:.

rg121
03-21-2012, 04:57 AM
Lovely tweet from Fognini (http://twitter.com/#!/Fabio_Fogna)-
"Non c'e' ne Djoko,ne Rafa,ne Andy,ne tutti messi insieme che giochino come RE ROGER... Mi dispiace!!!"

Rough translation: "Not Djoko, not Rafa, not Andy, not all of them put together can play like KING ROGER... Sorry!!!"

I couldn't agree with you more, Fab boy. :cool: :smoke:

Mystique
03-21-2012, 05:07 AM
Its good for tennis if Miami has indeed been sped up. It was so unbelievably slow last year :o
But yes, as Muzzalovah mentioned, I do think Miami's surface is usually not slower than IW (maybe has been a little faster always?) but its the climate the humidity that makes the ball travel slower through the air.
However, the finals will be played in the afternoon right. I think at night the surface is sure to be a little slower but otherwise, if they have indeed sped up the courts even a little bit, we may see some positive tennis afterall.

Have to wait and watch though. This reliable source of Gilbert's(Querry?) may have been saying that because of coming off IW for all we know.

Nole fan
03-21-2012, 11:01 AM
Lovely tweet from Fognini (http://twitter.com/#!/Fabio_Fogna)-
"Non c'e' ne Djoko,ne Rafa,ne Andy,ne tutti messi insieme che giochino come RE ROGER... Mi dispiace!!!"

Rough translation: "Not Djoko, not Rafa, not Andy, not all of them put together can play like KING ROGER... Sorry!!!"

I couldn't agree with you more, Fab boy. :cool: :smoke:

What an insufferable pompous loser. Had to be a Federer fan. :rolleyes:

viruzzz
03-21-2012, 01:56 PM
What an insufferable pompous loser. Had to be a Federer fan. :rolleyes:

Respect the damn players. God... You can't stand a loss :wavey:

sexybeast
03-21-2012, 03:13 PM
Lovely tweet from Fognini (http://twitter.com/#!/Fabio_Fogna)-
"Non c'e' ne Djoko,ne Rafa,ne Andy,ne tutti messi insieme che giochino come RE ROGER... Mi dispiace!!!"

Rough translation: "Not Djoko, not Rafa, not Andy, not all of them put together can play like KING ROGER... Sorry!!!"

I couldn't agree with you more, Fab boy. :cool: :smoke:

Now I know why Fognini destroyed Djokovicä's rythm in RG so Federer could defeat him.

masterclass
03-21-2012, 03:28 PM
Nole to step shit up. Really cant see fed winning b2b

:confused: Mr. Federer has already won more than back-to-back. He's has just won 3 straight titles, the last 2 with Mr. Djokovic in the mix, 15 straight matches, 39 out of his last 41. But yes, I feel Mr. Djokovic needs to buckle down and win Miami to get some confidence going into the clay season. Whether he can do so or not, is another question.

Respectfully,
masterclass

BroTree123
03-21-2012, 03:31 PM
Simon Reed created 61 accounts to vote for Federer.

green25814
03-21-2012, 04:09 PM
Lovely tweet from Fognini (http://twitter.com/#!/Fabio_Fogna)-
"Non c'e' ne Djoko,ne Rafa,ne Andy,ne tutti messi insieme che giochino come RE ROGER... Mi dispiace!!!"

Rough translation: "Not Djoko, not Rafa, not Andy, not all of them put together can play like KING ROGER... Sorry!!!"

I couldn't agree with you more, Fab boy. :cool: :smoke:

:bowdown: Fogster

viruzzz
03-21-2012, 09:41 PM
I think Nadal has a great chance, and I also think Noletards are literally shitting in their pants every time they think Nole 1.0 is back.

Nole fan
03-21-2012, 10:38 PM
I think Nadal has a great chance, and I also think Noletards are literally shitting in their pants every time they think Nole 1.0 is back.

Yeah sure, just because he lost twice in semifinals we are shitting our pants. :lol:
Don't forget who won the only Grand Slam this season... he's the number 1 and he's here to stay. Talk to me in about 6 months. :wavey:

leng jai
03-21-2012, 11:30 PM
Hass 9.0 is approaching.

Ajde.

simplet
03-21-2012, 11:33 PM
Usually I don't mind the tards but Nole fan fills me with such burning contempt every time she posts...

I don't understand why, I don't even mind Djokovic...

viruzzz
03-22-2012, 12:46 AM
Yeah sure, just because he lost twice in semifinals we are shitting our pants. :lol:
Don't forget who won the only Grand Slam this season... he's the number 1 and he's here to stay. Talk to me in about 6 months. :wavey:

You see? the little girl is scared as shit. :D

Igede
03-27-2012, 06:34 AM
:angel:

heya
03-27-2012, 07:55 AM
fognini lost again; fed bowed down to rodduck.

Allez
03-29-2012, 07:00 AM
Federer still winning the poll :facepalm:

Sticking to my PRE tournament prediction. Nadal is winning Miami :p

Clay Death
03-29-2012, 07:02 AM
he is playing terrible tennis general Allez. and now he has a bum knee.

Nole Rules
03-29-2012, 07:05 AM
Federer still winning the poll :facepalm:

Sticking to my PRE tournament prediction. Nadal is winning Miami :p

:superlol:

Even Ferrer won't lose to him in the final.

BroTree123
03-29-2012, 07:07 AM
What? Didn't you guys know that Simon Reed has 64 accounts on MTF?

Allez
03-29-2012, 07:13 AM
he is playing terrible tennis general Allez. and now he has a bum knee.

I was NOT impressed with Murray at all CD. Nadal will get past him and he is due a win over Nole (If Nole can get past the wall that is Ferru and a rejuvenated Fish). If Rafa has a knee injury he should pull out pronto. The season is long and it's not worth the risk. If he plays on that tells me he is OK.

Allez
03-29-2012, 07:13 AM
:superlol:

Even Ferrer won't lose to him in the final.

But Ferrer is Spanish...;)

vamosinator
03-29-2012, 09:50 AM
I was NOT impressed with Murray at all CD. Nadal will get past him and he is due a win over Nole (If Nole can get past the wall that is Ferru and a rejuvenated Fish). If Rafa has a knee injury he should pull out pronto. The season is long and it's not worth the risk. If he plays on that tells me he is OK.

I don't think Rafa cares about the knee, because it's tendinitis, and Rafa is getting treatment for that before Monte Carlo. So he may as well play with pain. Rafa has actually said before that he enjoys the challenge of playing with pain. Rafa had tendinitis problems before Monte Carlo 2010 and got treatment and won Roland Garros without dropping a set. His tendinitis problems returned toward the end of that Roland Garros, but he couldn't get tendinitis treatment before Wimbledon because he had to adjust to grass so couldn't afford to miss a day. So he actually won Wimbledon with full-blown tendinitis. Then he got treatment after Wimbledon and won the US Open :yeah:

gulzhan
03-29-2012, 11:23 AM
I really hope Ferrer wins, he deserves it. Would be good tradition for Miami after Davydenko and Ljubicic.

vamosinator
03-29-2012, 11:27 AM
I don't think Rafa will get much credit for winning Miami if he doesn't get to play Djokovic. I wish Djokovic makes the final.

BroTree123
03-29-2012, 11:28 AM
Rafa generally doesn't get credit for anything lol.

vamosinator
03-29-2012, 11:40 AM
Rafa generally doesn't get credit for anything lol.

Although he gets plenty of credit for Roland Garros, and will get it to the max if he wins his record 7th :yeah:

He gets plenty of love when he's winning, because remember the media hype regarding 'the Rafa Slam' when he was at 2011 AO. That was fun :D we should do that again :yeah:

jcempire
03-29-2012, 02:03 PM
41.03% on Federer
Wrong again

Why most people are wrong

Go Nadal
Go Djoker

Corey Feldman
03-29-2012, 03:31 PM
Although he gets plenty of credit for Roland Garros, and will get it to the max if he wins his record 7th :yeah:

He gets plenty of love when he's winning, because remember the media hype regarding 'the Rafa Slam' when he was at 2011 AO. That was fun :D we should do that again :yeah:thats all nice, shame it isnt even near half the glory Fed gets when he's winning

vamosinator
03-29-2012, 03:39 PM
thats all nice, shame it isnt even near half the glory Fed gets when he's winning

That's true, Federer isn't very humble, and does talk about his achievements far more than Rafa does. But at least more people cheered for Rafa during the 2008 Wimbledon final than for Federer. So I don't think talking about yourself really matters. It's more about others appreciating you. No shortage of that for Rafa :yeah: and I also noted when they played in the 2012 AO semi, Rafa got a bigger cheer when he walked onto court than Federer did, and during the match received no shortage of crowd favoritism, even when Federer was losing :D

Corey Feldman
03-29-2012, 03:43 PM
That's true, Federer isn't very humble, and does talk about his achievements far more than Rafa does. But at least more people cheered for Rafa during the 2008 Wimbledon final than for Federer. So I don't think talking about yourself really matters. It's more about others appreciating you. No shortage of that for Rafa :yeah:watch this video, fanboy

Wimbledon crowd in 2009 going wild when told Fed beat Nadal in Madrid

watch 2.41

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Fiberlight1
03-29-2012, 03:44 PM
watch this video, fanboy

Wimbledon crowd in 2009 going wild when told Fed beat Nadal in Madrid

watch 2.41

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Who cares? lol.... Look who you're arguing with.

Also not sure you should call anyone a fanboy when you're arguing that your favorite player is more popular :rolleyes:

vamosinator
03-29-2012, 03:45 PM
watch this video, fanboy

Wimbledon crowd in 2009 going wild when told Fed beat Nadal in Madrid

watch 2.41

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What did you expect? Federer fans will cheer. It's not like there were no Federer fans in the stadium :lol:

Corey Feldman
03-29-2012, 04:07 PM
Also not sure you should call anyone a fanboy when you're arguing that your favorite player is more popular :rolleyes:I just state facts for the blind breed