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WWW IW F: Federer v. Isner

abraxas21
03-18-2012, 03:12 AM
isner surprised federer beating him in 4 sets in DC this year.

will he pull another upset?

Ziros
03-18-2012, 03:17 AM
No doubt you mugs will get it dead wrong again just like in the semis

Johnbert
03-18-2012, 03:17 AM
fed in 3. big john will snatch a set in the tiebreak but fed wins.

great final, even if roger doesnt win this, im also fine with isner as the champ :)

Pirata.
03-18-2012, 03:19 AM
Fed should take this one. He underestimated John before, but I think now he knows to be careful. Beating Rafa should've given him a lot of confidence.

On the other hand, I would be really proud of John to win his first Masters title beating both the #1 player in the world and the current record holder of slam titles, so either way, it will be a good result.

cmoss
03-18-2012, 03:20 AM
2 of my favorite players.:o

IMO Big Isz prefer playing Nadal than Fed.

Fed is hungry for vengeance.But Isner does have chances too,if he serves >>70% like today.

Johnny Iznrr
03-18-2012, 03:20 AM
I think Isner had a better chance against Nadal, especially the way he's been playing. Tough to see him winning this match but I'll be happy either way :yeah:

SERBINATOR
03-18-2012, 03:21 AM
Fed in the past could have easily handled Big servers like John, afterall that's what he tamed for major part of his prime years

but given his current state it's a 50-50

tealeaves
03-18-2012, 03:21 AM
Revengerer in 2

romismak
03-18-2012, 03:21 AM
This final is totally unexpected, i thought Nole-Rafa, than i thought John-Rafa, well don´t want to predict... but i think John would have more chances against Rafa, topspin on high bouncing slow court, John would love to hit big FH on that, also Rafa´s serve is average. Roger on other hand has great serve, play much more agressive, good slice, i think Roger can change rhytm and at leat get to TB, if John will have one off service game and end broken he can loose match. I don´t think their DC match is telling us more, either can win, but i believe Roger can win that final with 1 break and tie-break. But we can´t forget on weather, windy conditions and so on... it can change everything, so hope for great weather, no wind for final.

Arkulari
03-18-2012, 03:23 AM
Isner played AMAZINGLY vs Nole, specially the TBs so he definitely has good chances.
If the conditions are too wild, I think Roger will win in 2, but if the weather is nice then John has great chances.
Honestly, I have no idea who will win :lol:

TennisGrandSlam
03-18-2012, 03:23 AM
Don't forget Isner won Fed in Davis Cup this year,

Anyway, support Fed :)

samanosuke
03-18-2012, 03:24 AM
who the fuck cares for this outcome . good things have already been done

HDW
03-18-2012, 03:24 AM
fed in 2.

MaxPower
03-18-2012, 03:25 AM
Court is slow so pattern of play shouldn't be that different from their clay DC meeting. Isner will use the monster serve and go for short rallies. Fed likely a bit more defensive than usual and try to move the giant from side to side and keep it low on Isners feet if he attempts much net play.

I think Federer executes a smart gameplan this time and wins 6-4, 6-3

The X-factors will be the crowd and the wind. The crowd should favor John if sets get close. If the wind gets crazy it might favor Fed. He's just rock solid playing in gusty wind as he has shown in the US many times

Filo V.
03-18-2012, 03:25 AM
Conditions will play an extremely huge factor. Fed will be dreaming conditions are exactly like today in his match vs Rafa. Isner's serve will lose sting and his backhand/movement will be more exploitable.

I think Roger wins in straights. He's just too hot right now and I can't see Isner stopping him.

ZaZoo)
03-18-2012, 03:26 AM
Olderer got this 6-0, 6-0.

cobalt60
03-18-2012, 03:31 AM
Fed in 2 and then I want the big guy and Sam to win the doubles :banana:

Mystique
03-18-2012, 03:31 AM
Roger you cant lose a tournament after beating Nadal, no way in hell.
Roger in 3, this is revenge week for Viruserer-turned-GOATerer.
allez, get it done Feds!

GOOD LUCK :rocker2:

HKz
03-18-2012, 03:31 AM
Federer is on a roll. I don't think he'll make the same mistake like in DC. He returns big servers too well and his confidence after beating Nadal on such conditions must be sky high. Federer has won every single tournament where he has defeated Nadal en route. Of course most of those were in finals, but he has a couple non-final wins over Nadal only ending up to take the title.

Orka_n
03-18-2012, 03:33 AM
Fed in 2 and then I want the big guy and Sam to win the doubles :banana:You're having a good day today huh doc? :hug: :bounce:

Corey Feldman
03-18-2012, 03:36 AM
funny that but for lost mp's this could have been the Final in the last Masters 1000 - in Paris last year

castle007
03-18-2012, 03:36 AM
If the conditions are very windy, then I think Federer is the clear favorite. I think Federer underestimated Isner in their last match, and who won't do that same here. He even said in his interview that Isner is the man to beat now.

Isner's serve will decide the match, so the conditions are very important.

Good luck to both players, but I want Federer to win. :)

Lee
03-18-2012, 03:37 AM
If John serves like today, putting 74% first serve in, he has a chance tomorrow. And I like him to win the doubles too :lol:

Orka_n
03-18-2012, 03:37 AM
Federer takes this I think. Isner might take a set though.

Johnny Iznrr
03-18-2012, 03:40 AM
Djokovic is a terrible tb player while Fed is an excellent one. Today it was basically guaranteed if it went to a tb Isner would win while tomorrow it's far from certain. Isner is going to have to serve like a beast and hope Sickerer shows up, I'm giving him a 30% chance.

venky91
03-18-2012, 03:44 AM
Good match for me, since I like both players.

Sunset of Age
03-18-2012, 03:47 AM
It would be a shame if Fed somehow manages to throw away this excellent chance of adding to his master shields-tally.
Good thing that he's had a severe warning a couple of weeks ago not to underestimate Isner. May serve him well tomorrow.

Fed in two or three.
But I won't mind it too much if Isner takes his first master shield. He would have earned it just the same. :)

BroTree123
03-18-2012, 03:49 AM
Isner in 2 :shrug:.

Clay Death
03-18-2012, 03:56 AM
easy:

6-4, 6-4. say hello to title #73.

reery
03-18-2012, 04:02 AM
Fed in 2 and to tie Nadal with 19 masters1000.

hipolymer
03-18-2012, 04:06 AM
Isner in 3

Roamed
03-18-2012, 04:14 AM
No idea. Should be a great one. :D

AntiTennis
03-18-2012, 04:21 AM
Fed in 2

JanKowalski
03-18-2012, 04:41 AM
Djokovic is a terrible tb player while Fed is an excellent one. Today it was basically guaranteed if it went to a tb Isner would win while tomorrow it's far from certain. Isner is going to have to serve like a beast and hope Sickerer shows up, I'm giving him a 30% chance.

Fed and Isner played 2 TBs and Isner won both.

I'm picking Fed though.

MuzzahLovah
03-18-2012, 06:08 AM
I'm rooting for the American, but I worry about the pressure of the moment on Jizzner. I agree if it's cool and windy Fed has the advantage.

MuzzahLovah
03-18-2012, 06:10 AM
Hopefully the American crowd doesn't fail John and start supporting Fed, or even 50-50 split. He needs all the help he can get.

MuzzahLovah
03-18-2012, 06:11 AM
And while I think Fed will win, the predictive quality of these polls this week makes me still have hope for Isner.

Chirag
03-18-2012, 06:19 AM
It would be a shame if Fed somehow manages to throw away this excellent chance of adding to his master shields-tally.
Good thing that he's had a severe warning a couple of weeks ago not to underestimate Isner. May serve him well tomorrow.

Fed in two or three.
But I won't mind it too much if Isner takes his first master shield. He would have earned it just the same. :)

I am with this

Allez
03-18-2012, 08:30 AM
Isner will draw from his DC win and prevail in two high quality sets...the serve being the deciding factor.

Nirjhor
03-18-2012, 08:37 AM
If Federer doesn't underestimate Isner then he will win. I hope Federer in 3. :)

david_is_not_fat
03-18-2012, 08:46 AM
Federer in 2 :)

But i'm really bad at this polls, always choose the option i WANT TO HAPPEN instead of the option i THINK or FEEL it will happen.
Anyway this time i want, think and feel Federer in 2 :D
Hope we have a great match to see! And with no rain.
2012 RF Year :)

cmoss
03-18-2012, 08:50 AM
Hopefully the match will be tight and interesting.

I'm very happy whoever the winner is.:angel:

Allez
03-18-2012, 08:54 AM
Hopefully the match will be tight and interesting.

I'm very happy whoever the winner is.:angel:

That's right. Welcomed change from Nodal.

trucul
03-18-2012, 09:03 AM
If you wish to play a game to pick score of Isner vs. Federer, send your picks (with match duration) here:


http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=197982

Mae
03-18-2012, 09:07 AM
I would like to see John win, but I think Roger will.

EddieNero
03-18-2012, 09:10 AM
Federer has been extremely clutch at finals recently, the stormy weather can be a huge handicup as well.
That said, Isner appears extremely dangerous in this tournament and it may be a lifetime chance for him to grab a M1000 title.
I'll go with Federer in 2 tight sets.

HKz
03-18-2012, 09:14 AM
I didn't realize how poor John's record in finals was. 3 wins/5 losses. I mean it could be a lot worse, but this stat could certainly be against him especially considering that this is the biggest final he has ever contested in. Both should be brimming with confidence, and since Federer certainly has the better overall game and can handle big servers like none other, I still think Federer will take this. I mean since his run at the end of last year, he has been pretty unplayable in finals for the most part.

TBkeeper
03-18-2012, 09:23 AM
6-2, 7-6(3)
i say this result for Federer!
or one of these
6-2, 6-7(6), 6-3
7-6(2), 6-4
all for Fed

Federer in 2
03-18-2012, 09:45 AM
I'm gonna say Federer 6-3 7-6.

Start da Game
03-18-2012, 09:51 AM
as the mods seem to be humble and do not want to empty my v cash account, i intend to donate it to them myself by betting everything on isner......i see him losing this match in 2 sets......i really don't care who wins this title now......

ossie
03-18-2012, 09:53 AM
i thought rafa isner would be bad but this is ten times worse. fed will dismantle this serve bot and put him back together to make it look like it was a difficult match for him. the result though is nid: fed saves tennis in 2.

HKz
03-18-2012, 09:59 AM
as the mods seem to be humble and do not want to empty my v cash account, i intend to donate it to them myself by betting everything on isner......i see him losing this match in 2 sets......i really don't care who wins this title now......

why do you even like tennis if you only go for one player?

MIMIC
03-18-2012, 10:09 AM
Djokovic is a terrible tb player while Fed is an excellent one. Today it was basically guaranteed if it went to a tb Isner would win while tomorrow it's far from certain. Isner is going to have to serve like a beast and hope Sickerer shows up, I'm giving him a 30% chance.

:facepalm:

Fed and Isner played 2 TBs and Isner won both.

I'm picking Fed though.

This, and

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-Tie-Breakers-Career-List.aspx

Allez
03-18-2012, 10:25 AM
Isner leads the H2H this year rolling him 6-2 in their last contested set. He has more than a decent shot of winning this especially if that serve is firing on all cylinders which I expect it will be. If Roger wins it will be in 3 sets but I still pick Isner in something like 7-6, 7-5.

Certinfy
03-18-2012, 12:44 PM
Isner in 2.

Ash86
03-18-2012, 12:49 PM
Rooting for Isner - would be a great win for the sport and frankly he'd appreciate the $1 million a lot more than Fed would. Plus don't want Fed getting all those ranking points. ;) He won against a superior returner like Novak so if he keeps his head there's no reason Isner can't do this.

cmoss
03-18-2012, 12:57 PM
It's difficult to serve >70% all the times.

If Isner can't do that,he'll lose.But no problem,I support both players.:)

shadows
03-18-2012, 12:59 PM
Federer should put an end to this travesty

LisaKoh
03-18-2012, 01:09 PM
as the mods seem to be humble and do not want to empty my v cash account, i intend to donate it to them myself by betting everything on isner......i see him losing this match in 2 sets......i really don't care who wins this title now......

You can donate it to me. I bet everything on Nadal! :D Just kidding.

But the question must be asked, how did you end up betting your vcash on Federer? You should just bet it on him tomorrow, he stands a good chance of losing this.

masterclass
03-18-2012, 01:28 PM
Indian Wells forecast for 2 pm is for mostly cloudy skies, 59 F./15C, winds dying down from 5 mph to 0, but a 40% chance of rain, rainfall amounts near 2.0 mm possible, and perhaps a thunderstorm.

In these conditions, the ball is probably going to continue to not bounce so high as when it is warm and sunny.
Both players have a lot of confidence and are playing well.
With these conditions, Isner won't have the advantage he had in Switzerland where the ball was bouncing over Federer's head.

But again, the margins are small. Anyone could win, especially if their serve gets hot.
Federer usually starts well, while Isner usually takes a bit to warm up.
In a 3 set match, a good start is a definite advantage.

I'll pick Mr. Federer in 3 sets. 6-3, 6-7, 6-4.
In any case, I hope we see a good match :)

Respectfully,
masterclass

Revan
03-18-2012, 01:33 PM
Hoping for Fed in 2, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Isner win.

Fuser59
03-18-2012, 01:38 PM
I think Isner had a better chance against Nadal, especially the way he's been playing. Tough to see him winning this match but I'll be happy either way :yeah:

Word!

reery
03-18-2012, 01:45 PM
Would be hilarious if Fed ends up with the masters1000 record like he owns the slam record now.

Mystique
03-18-2012, 01:55 PM
Would be hilarious if Fed ends up with the masters1000 record like he owns the slam record now.

He MAY get the record temporarily (even that is unlikely) but I am sure in the end Rafa will take this record. Deservedly too.
Roger will AT BEST win a couple of masters a year this and the next but not beyond that for sure. Rafa will have Monte Carlo alone locked for another 12345 years...;)

samanosuke
03-18-2012, 02:00 PM
Fed will be in trouble here . I didn't see a chance Isner beating Nole . Nole is much worse match up for Isner than Fed is . Also Nole returned better in that match than Fed would ever be returning and still lost the match . Expect at least one breaker here and Isner in breaker is one of the toughest customers

masterclass
03-18-2012, 02:07 PM
Fed will be in trouble here . I didn't see a chance Isner beating Nole . Nole is much worse match up for Isner than Fed is . Also Nole returned better in that match than Fed would ever be returning and still lost the match . Expect at least one breaker here and Isner in breaker is one of the toughest customers

No doubt Mr. Samanosuke, and as shown yesterday, "balls of steel" under pressure.

Respectfully,
masterclass

NJ88
03-18-2012, 02:09 PM
Federer is on a roll, I think he wins in two.

Mystique
03-18-2012, 02:09 PM
Yeah it sure wont be easy at all. For both guys
But ths time as opposed to DC, Fed wont underestimate John. Isner is an American I actually like, so I wouldnt mind this going three, as long as Fed wins.
Forecast is showers again in the afternoon :yeah:

argudam
03-18-2012, 02:15 PM
As much as I'd like to see Federer win, I doubt if he can manage it. I'd be very sad to see him upset both my favourite players. But it would make things interesting at Miami.

vojomocart
03-18-2012, 02:31 PM
At least one TB ,Isner to win his 1st Maters.

Bigselber
03-18-2012, 03:04 PM
I think Roger has a greater chance of breaking Isner than the other way around, in a tiebreak it's pretty much 50/50. So overall Federer has the slight edge and should win in a tight match.

green25814
03-18-2012, 03:14 PM
Expect at least 2 TBs here. I expect this match to have very small margins, which means either guy could win. Hoping for Isner, he needs this more than Fed.

Cat9
03-18-2012, 03:18 PM
Conditions will play an extremely huge factor.

I'm about 2 1/2 hours from IW and it's mostly clear skies right now with little wind-about 10mph.

Sapeod
03-18-2012, 03:19 PM
A final without Nadal or Djokovic. Brilliant! Either one of those players would've made the final terrible.

I'm fine with John winning, but I want the GOAT to increase his GOAT credentials with another masters title. Come on, Roger! Win this and you're #1 in the race :yeah:

Sonja1989
03-18-2012, 03:27 PM
John won't beat Federer two times in row. Especially in a Master final but the match won't be too easy for Federer. I expect two close sets.

KoOlMaNsEaN
03-18-2012, 03:28 PM
This one will be the battle of the servers, I expect a couple of tie-breaks, both of which Federer will win :yeah:

Start da Game
03-18-2012, 03:37 PM
You can donate it to me. I bet everything on Nadal! :D Just kidding.

But the question must be asked, how did you end up betting your vcash on Federer? You should just bet it on him tomorrow, he stands a good chance of losing this.

i just bet all of 100,000 on isner so that i lose that cash and it goes back to the mods.....

MacTheKnife
03-18-2012, 03:39 PM
It doesn't go back to the mods, it will go to those that bet on Federer..

P.S. - if he wins. I'm not so sure about that the way Isner in playing. If he gets that serve and FH going he's like a freight train.

BroTree123
03-18-2012, 04:04 PM
Isner in 2.

Isner in 2 :shrug:.

Ahh Jason....great minds think alike :hug:.

masterclass
03-18-2012, 04:17 PM
Another key to this match is Mr. Federer converting on break points, which will keep him out of tiebreakers.

He was a poor 1 for 12 in Switzerland.
It's not a stretch to say that he should do better at IW.

Respectfully,
masterclass

mystic ice cube
03-18-2012, 04:58 PM
I'm a Fed fan but I really don't mind if John takes the title either. All I want like everyone else is a good match with attacking tennis.

SetSampras
03-18-2012, 04:59 PM
If Isner plays like he did yesterday, he takes it. Chances of him doing that however are low. He will be fatigued most likely after the first set

tripwires
03-18-2012, 05:10 PM
Hopefully Rogi takes it in 2.

EddieNero
03-18-2012, 05:15 PM
Isner in 2.

Always against Federer :haha:

Allez
03-18-2012, 05:41 PM
This poll is shaping to be a FAIL of epic proportions...equaled only by the WWW Nole vs Isner poll :lol:

Smoke944
03-18-2012, 06:02 PM
I have no vcash left to bet on Federer, so unfortunately John has no chance to win.

rocketassist
03-18-2012, 06:06 PM
Fed in 2, but hopefully Johnny pulls it out. He deserves a MS title.

jcempire
03-18-2012, 06:31 PM
Federer 6-1 6-0

swebright
03-18-2012, 06:33 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Big John wins !

But I expect Fed will prevail .....

LisaKoh
03-18-2012, 06:40 PM
i just bet all of 100,000 on isner so that i lose that cash and it goes back to the mods.....

It would be hilarious if Isner won and then you made 400k out of "error" bets.

tommyg6
03-18-2012, 06:42 PM
Feds is gonna take this one. Sorry Big John.

jcempire
03-18-2012, 07:42 PM
way too easy for federer

6-2 6-2 in my mind

tennizen
03-18-2012, 09:00 PM
Federer 7-6,6-4

LinkMage
03-18-2012, 09:06 PM
Isner to bomb Fed in 3. :sad:

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
03-18-2012, 09:24 PM
tennis wins in this final people

maybe tennis is on its way back- finally

hasn't been good tennis since 2009

Mateya
03-18-2012, 10:04 PM
way too easy for federer

6-2 6-2 in my mind

Stop with your delusional predictions. That's why you are broke again, thrown away all your Vcash by betting on all kinds of mugs.

Noone, I mean NOONE in tennis history, can beat in-form Isner 6-2 6-2 who is serving 230km/h bombs on hard court and playing great tennis.

Yes, Rogerer will probably win, but it'll take much more effort than that. We already have a tiebreak in the first set. :)