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Indian Wells R2: Nalbandian def. [24] Cilic 7-6(3) 7-6(4)

Filo V.
03-12-2012, 02:19 AM
Match was topsy-turvy, as many matches have been throughout this tournament, and the quality wasn't very good. Cilic had two break points in the first game of the match after Nalbandian had 30-0 and didn't take them. From there it seemed as if Nalbandian gained confidence, as he played two strong games to break on an off-forehand and hold to love with good serving, and poor returns from Marin. Cilic looked rattled, and Nalbandian had break points at 4-*1 to serve for the set, which he didn't take advantage of.

Nalbandian held serve throughout the first set until 5-3 when serving for it, where he made some loose errors and played tentatively, and Cilic started hitting with authority and going for his shots more being behind. David saved a break point before losing serve on a double fault to bring things back even at 5-4. At *5-6, Cilic had 40-15 before having to save another break point, making more loose errors and playing nervous tennis, but held on with a couple good serves and Nalbandian errors to get into a tiebreak.

Cilic had the early mini-break lead in the tiebreaker, but Nalbandian won four straight points from 3 all to win the breaker, hitting a great forehand winner for *4-3, serving better and allowing Cilic to get nervous and tightening up his game.

In the second set, both held serve without a break point against until 3 all, where Cilic played a very tired looking game, with abysmal serving and footwork to dump serve. Nalbandian then played a bad game with errors and mishits, to lose his break advantage immediately. Cilic had 30 all at 5-*4 after a couple poor Nalbandian errors to potentially win the set, didn't take advantage and got broken immediately afterward, making extremely tight errors, missing many first serves and hitting an ugly double fault, playing tentative tennis and being broken after saving three break points. Nalbandian fell behind 0-30 serving for the match at *6-5 with two extremely nervous missed shots, but climbed back with with decent serving and aggressive play to set up a match point. From there, Cilic played three great points in a row, hitting the ball with authority and confidence, and taking advantage of Nalbandian missing first serves, to break to enter the second set breaker.

In the tiebreak, the two traded mini-breaks twice early, both missing first serves and making poor errors. Nalbandian again made a run in the tiebreak as in the first set, going from *1-3 down to *5-4 ahead with confident play and good serving, eventually winning the match with an ace, and on a Cilic error at match point.

Overall, there wasn't too much between them. Neither played particularly well in any area, both showed signs of mental fragility, but both had moments of greatness. But David was the one who played with more assertiveness at the end of both tiebreakers, and that ended up being the difference.

A nervy win but a tough win for Nalbandian.

yesh222
03-12-2012, 02:20 AM
Cilic outchokes Nalbandian 67 67

RIboy
03-12-2012, 02:20 AM
horrible, just horrible match...

LocoPorElTenis
03-12-2012, 02:21 AM
Bad match but Nalbandián played both tbs at a high level (after falling mb down), that was the difference.

BroTree123
03-12-2012, 02:21 AM
Tipsarevic will not sleep well tonight.

Lopez
03-12-2012, 02:21 AM
Choking battle.

Nice to see Nalby win, always been one of my faves. Reckon he won't play long anymore.

Sunset of Age
03-12-2012, 02:21 AM
That was a nice trainwreck of a match. Utter garbage for most of it.
Tipsy must like his chances now.

Good to see Nalby come through though. :)

leng jai
03-12-2012, 02:21 AM
1:2 winner and error ratio for both players.

Ajde.

SelvenluvJo
03-12-2012, 02:23 AM
Choke from both side, but still a entertainment match to enjoy. :shrug:

tennizen
03-12-2012, 02:24 AM
Well fought match by Mugrin. Getting into groove to take the clay season by storm.

Deathless Mortal
03-12-2012, 02:25 AM
Bad quality, but entertaining, yes.
Cilic just needs more matches under his belt.

Filo V.
03-12-2012, 02:25 AM
A win is a win, is what David will chalk this match down to. David, IMO, could have won 6-3 6-4 if he had kept his composure throughout the match. He was the clear better player when he wasn't choking. It's all a confidence issue at this point for Nalbandian but wins like this will help in that regard.

Cilic has slowed down A LOT post-knee injury. Pretty bad footwork throughout the match. Rustiness will hopefully shake some off some of those issues.

tennishero
03-12-2012, 02:27 AM
nice try mugrin.

not a good match, nalbandian needs to up his level a lot next round.


btw OP, i really doubt anyone is reading that wall of text.

Evitman
03-12-2012, 02:29 AM
Good for Nalby to win a tough match.

Filo V.
03-12-2012, 02:29 AM
It also has to be said, Nalbandian's serve gets bagged on a lot, but that was a big difference maker between the two players. Nalby was able to win free points on his serve when need be, like the ace to set up match point in the second tiebreak, and Cilic couldn't do it often enough outside of a couple times here and there. Cilic is such a mediocre server for a guy his height.

LocoPorElTenis
03-12-2012, 02:29 AM
So Tipsy plays Nalbi now? As close to a bye as he could hope for in a 3rd round.

Bleeth
03-12-2012, 02:31 AM
Waste of time this match, should have watched Kvitova - McHale instead

allpro
03-12-2012, 02:31 AM
damn, that was an ugly match. neither player really trusted their stroke and they both had exactly twice as many ue’s as winners.

tipsy on to the rd of 16.....

BroTree123
03-12-2012, 02:32 AM
damn, that was an ugly match. neither player really trusted their stroke and they both had exactly twice as many ue’s as winners.

tipsy on to the rd of 16.....

:superlol:. Tipsy can't even beat a semi-decent player this year to save his life.

RIboy
03-12-2012, 02:32 AM
Nalby needs a miracle vs Tipsarevic, he would have lost 2 and 2 today against any average player

Filo V.
03-12-2012, 02:40 AM
The only time these two played, AO 2007, Tipsarevic was 2-0 sets and a break serving for the match, and then suffered a heat stroke/choked and retired in the fifth set. Janko is clearly a better player now than he was then, but Nalby will be in return games. Nothing is stopping him from winning over Janko. But his up and down play his first two matches here show his confidence isn't really there right now. Matches like this can help with that. I definitely think he's in with a shot vs the Serbian.

tennishero
03-12-2012, 02:41 AM
last time Nalby won a match 7-6 7-6 was against Federer in Cincinatti 03.

Stephan
03-12-2012, 02:48 AM
Dramatical match, David had a 4-1, 5-2 in first set and a match point at 5-4...
good that he won in the end :)

motorhead
03-12-2012, 02:54 AM
So Tipsy plays Nalbi now? As close to a bye as he could hope for in a 3rd round.

:haha:

allpro
03-12-2012, 03:01 AM
:superlol:. Tipsy can't even beat a semi-decent player this year to save his life.

you laugh now, but wait and see ;)

BroTree123
03-12-2012, 03:07 AM
The only time these two played, AO 2007, Tipsarevic was 2-0 sets and a break serving for the match, and then suffered a heat stroke/choked and retired in the fifth set. Janko is clearly a better player now than he was then, but Nalby will be in return games. Nothing is stopping him from winning over Janko. But his up and down play his first two matches here show his confidence isn't really there right now. Matches like this can help with that. I definitely think he's in with a shot vs the Serbian.

Not really. It's 99% NID that Nalbandian will beat him.

Filo V.
03-12-2012, 03:16 AM
I wouldn't say 99%. It's 50-50. But just because Nalbandian played bad today doesn't mean he can't beat Janko when they play in R3. He just has to find a way to play better than he did today.

1811mil
03-12-2012, 03:23 AM
Match was topsy-turvy, as many matches have been throughout this tournament, and the quality wasn't very good. Cilic had two break points in the first game of the match after Nalbandian had 30-0 and didn't take them. From there it seemed as if Nalbandian gained confidence, as he played two strong games to break on an off-forehand and hold to love with good serving, and poor returns from Marin. Cilic looked rattled, and Nalbandian had break points at 4-*1 to serve for the set, which he didn't take advantage of.

Nalbandian held serve throughout the first set until 5-3 when serving for it, where he made some loose errors and played tentatively, and Cilic started hitting with authority and going for his shots more being behind. David saved a break point before losing serve on a double fault to bring things back even at 5-4. At *5-6, Cilic had 40-15 before having to save another break point, making more loose errors and playing nervous tennis, but held on with a couple good serves and Nalbandian errors to get into a tiebreak.

Cilic had the early mini-break lead in the tiebreaker, but Nalbandian won four straight points from 3 all to win the breaker, hitting a great forehand winner for *4-3, serving better and allowing Cilic to get nervous and tightening up his game.

In the second set, both held serve without a break point against until 3 all, where Cilic played a very tired looking game, with abysmal serving and footwork to dump serve. Nalbandian then played a bad game with errors and mishits, to lose his break advantage immediately. Cilic had 30 all at 5-*4 after a couple poor Nalbandian errors to potentially win the set, didn't take advantage and got broken immediately afterward, making extremely tight errors, missing many first serves and hitting an ugly double fault, playing tentative tennis and being broken after saving three break points. Nalbandian fell behind 0-30 serving for the match at *6-5 with two extremely nervous missed shots, but climbed back with with decent serving and aggressive play to set up a match point. From there, Cilic played three great points in a row, hitting the ball with authority and confidence, and taking advantage of Nalbandian missing first serves, to break to enter the second set breaker.

In the tiebreak, the two traded mini-breaks twice early, both missing first serves and making poor errors. Nalbandian again made a run in the tiebreak as in the first set, going from *1-3 down to *5-4 ahead with confident play and good serving, eventually winning the match with an ace, and on a Cilic error at match point.

Overall, there wasn't too much between them. Neither played particularly well in any area, both showed signs of mental fragility, but both had moments of greatness. But David was the one who played with more assertiveness at the end of both tiebreakers, and that ended up being the difference.

A nervy win but a tough win for Nalbandian.

could you please stop saying ,,topsy-turvy,, in EVERY match thread you open...

rocketassist
03-12-2012, 03:24 AM
Nalbandian = real tennis.

Filo V.
03-12-2012, 03:35 AM
I would stop saying topsy-turvy if the matches weren't all so ridiculously topsy-turvy. It's the perfect description for basically 80% of the matches so far in Indian Wells.

This match was topsy-turvy personified.

gulzhan
03-12-2012, 04:24 AM
Feel very sorry for Marin, losing on two TBs :sad:

BroTree123
03-12-2012, 04:28 AM
I wouldn't say 99%. It's 50-50. But just because Nalbandian played bad today doesn't mean he can't beat Janko when they play in R3. He just has to find a way to play better than he did today.

You don't have to play good or bad to beat Janko because the Serb is a terrible player all round, and we know he can't handle players who are "half-decent" :shrug:

Filo V.
03-12-2012, 04:30 AM
A terrible player all-around? Yeah............please. Let's speak in reality here. He's overranked but he's not a terrible player.

motorhead
03-12-2012, 05:00 AM
You don't have to play good or bad to beat Janko because the Serb is a terrible player all round, and we know he can't handle players who are "half-decent" :shrug:
what on earth are you talking about...

samanosuke
03-12-2012, 05:05 AM
this results shows one more time why cilic is so missed on the tour. probably only guy who can't roast few burgers more when Dave is in eating mode

tripwires
03-12-2012, 07:35 AM
this results shows one more time why cilic is so missed on the tour. probably only guy who can't roast few burgers more when Dave is in eating mode

:haha:

Nalby :hearts: What a shame I was sleeping when this match was played.

GSMnadal
03-12-2012, 08:08 AM
:superlol:. Tipsy can't even beat a semi-decent player this year to save his life.

Who's talking about semi-decent here? It's FatDave :facepalm:

Naudio Spanlatine
03-12-2012, 08:43 AM
Nalby:banana: :smooch: :smooch:

this results shows one more time why cilic is so missed on the tour. probably only guy who can't roast few burgers more when Dave is in eating mode

:spit: :o

Sombrerero loco
03-12-2012, 10:06 AM
mugrin :tape:

ossie
03-12-2012, 10:30 AM
good for humanity.

Topspindoctor
03-12-2012, 10:52 AM
Expected. Mugrin is a terrible player. And to think that some clowns thought he'd be a slam contender after his fluke 2010 AO run :spit:

HeretiC
03-12-2012, 11:47 AM
Maybe it is just lack of matches, but Cilic is with some serious timing problems when hitting on the run, Bob should take care of that as soon as possible. Except the win itself, Nalbandian has nothing to brag about this match, failed to convert 5 BPs in a 6th game for a double break in the first set, failed to serve for the set, failed to secure the break in the second set (twice), failed to serve for the match despite having a MP. This is a match up that suits him, Cilic doesn't handle well extreme angles and if those are relatively flat with a low bounce - it is kind of nightmarish for him, really shouldn't have gone to a TB in both sets. Unless something drastically changes, Tipsy will win in the next match, perhaps even easier than expected, but you never know with Nalbandian.

Voo de Mar
03-12-2012, 11:51 AM
Typical Cilic, he is too conservative to win tie-breaks against experienced guys who think on the court.

Chris Kuerten
03-12-2012, 12:26 PM
Always a pleasure when pure talent beats a brainless ballbasher.

Stephan
03-12-2012, 12:38 PM
David should and could win it in easier way, like 6-3, 6-4...:p
his first serve is not good enough, improve it when will play vs. tipsi ...:(

Ad Wim
03-12-2012, 04:15 PM
Too bad for Marin, but he is getting there. Hope he can win some matches in Dallas.

Mateya
03-12-2012, 08:49 PM
Čilić in tiebreaks :haha:
Hillarious player, ugly game and ugly match.

Tomic - Cilic would be the ugliest possible ATP match. Do you agree? :)

misty1
03-12-2012, 10:08 PM
We have to give marin a little leeway. Its only his second match of the season

in his 2 matches so far he';s went 3 sets against nieminen and took nalbandian, someone he's never beaten before to the limit in 2 tight sets

misty1
03-12-2012, 10:09 PM
Čilić in tiebreaks :haha:
Hillarious player, ugly game and ugly match.

Tomic - Cilic would be the ugliest possible ATP match. Do you agree? :)

acrually marin and bernard have played before and produced one good game. marin slaughtered him in their last encounter

Orka_n
03-12-2012, 10:11 PM
This was a mugfest but the right player won.

Deathless Mortal
03-12-2012, 10:12 PM
Čilić in tiebreaks :haha:
Hillarious player, ugly game and ugly match.

Tomic - Cilic would be the ugliest possible ATP match. Do you agree? :)

Yes, and a match between Chela and Starace would be such a joy to watch :hearts:

samanosuke
03-12-2012, 10:14 PM
Yes, and a match between Chela and Starace would be such a joy to watch :hearts:

actually it would be . both guys would have a bet on the match and in the case of different outcomes would be a glorious stuff

misty1
03-12-2012, 10:14 PM
I am going to ask this again: what exactly has marin ever done to be so widely hated?

his oncourt behaviour is not rude or disrespectful
he's never said anything offensive that i have heard
he might be a mental midget but who isnt these days?
his game isnt boring to watch
he's very good with fans

Deathless Mortal
03-12-2012, 10:20 PM
I am going to ask this again: what exactly has marin ever done to be so widely hated?

his oncourt behaviour is not rude or disrespectful
he's never said anything offensive that i have heard
he might be a mental midget but who isnt these days?
his game isnt boring to watch
he's very good with fans

I, of course, don't hate him, but he is an emotionless player most of the time, and that's boring. Also, his game is more or less one-dimensional. While he could use his height to get a decent serve, and eventually go to the net after it, he decides to stay at the baseline and get in a long rally, which more often than not he finishes with an unforced error.
And yes, he should get rid of the monobrow.

Mateya
03-12-2012, 10:23 PM
Yes, and a match between Chela and Starace would be such a joy to watch :hearts:
Are you being sarcastic here?

Why not? :o
Give them a nice claycourt and they will give you a high quality match with plenty of fun rallies and fewer UEs. Their Umag match last year was almost epic.
And they both know how to hit a normal forehand.

Mugrin is really a nice guy. Just his game isn't so nice.
:wavey: