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lalaland
02-29-2012, 08:56 PM
2012 starts on the wrong side for Gilles. So this is take 2, let's start over again. Not to expect him to suddenly be good, but we'll do all we can (and pretty much all we can do is to open new thread for each tournament if that helps :p) to hope that he'll get better soon.

Next stop is Indian Wells, starts on March 8th, but he has bye, so probably won't start for him til the 10th at the earliest. HC is of course more of his element, so here's hoping that he'll do better, beat a Top 50 and get that monkey off the back. Allez Gilles.

__________________

I just noticed that I set the bar very low :lol:, baby steps baby steps, one tournament at a time.

MsTree
02-29-2012, 09:53 PM
I'm down to one set at a time :lol:
I bags the grass season thread :)
Allez for IW :cheerleader:

lalaland
02-29-2012, 10:04 PM
I'm down to one set at a time :lol:

:lol:
We Gilles fans need a group hug!


I bags the grass season thread :)

It's in the book.

Gilloulou
03-01-2012, 09:59 PM
yay go 2012!

Silver.
03-02-2012, 07:35 PM
What's that? 2012 already started? It just flew by and I barely noticed. ;)

Right, i'm back and ready to cheer for my little Gillou again. (Looking back at what I missed i'm prettyyyy sure he needs it)

ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ :cheerleader:

misty1
03-07-2012, 01:08 AM
R2- sela or qualifier

R3 - probably wawrinka

QF - murray

lalaland
03-07-2012, 01:35 AM
Allez :cheerleader::cheerleader::cheerleader: Allez!
Cheering him on, one match at a time.

lalaland
03-07-2012, 06:28 AM
BTW, Murray is R4, not QF. This is his quarter looks like:

(4)Andy Murray (GBR) vs Bye
Guillermo Garcia Lopez (ESP) vs Rui Machado (POR)
Flavio Cipolla (ITA) vs Ryan Harrison (USA)
Bye vs (25)Viktor Troicki (SRB)

(23)Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) vs Bye
Qualifier vs (WC)Robby Ginepri (USA)
Qualifier vs Dudi Sela (ISR)
Bye vs (13)Gilles Simon (FRA)

(11)John Isner (USA) vs Bye
Qualifier vs Qualifier
Qualifier vs Nicolas Mahut (FRA)
Bye vs (22)Juan Monaco (ARG)

(32)Julien Benneteau (FRA) vs bye
Qualifier vs Igor Kunitsyn (RUS)
Andreas Seppi (ITA) vs Olivier Rochus (BEL)
Bye vs (8)Mardy Fish (USA)

Gillouthe best
03-07-2012, 06:38 AM
Hoping he beats Sela. Then, against Wawa, it would be interesting.

MsTree
03-07-2012, 06:41 PM
ALLEZ!!!

:cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:

lalaland
03-08-2012, 12:50 AM
Gilles teams up with Mahut to play double in IW. Their first round opponent, Dolpogolov/Malisse, aka the defending champion. LOL.

lalaland
03-10-2012, 02:24 AM
Double duty tomorrow for Gilles:

Court 7 starts time 11am 1st match.
Simon vs Sela

Court 6 last match of the day after 3 single matches.
Simon/Mahut vs Dolgopolov/Malisse

Allez! Allez!

Gillouthe best
03-10-2012, 07:52 AM
Allez Gilles!

MsTree
03-10-2012, 10:05 AM
If there's a stream can someone record it pls? Allez! :cheerleader:

MsTree
03-10-2012, 07:51 PM
No stream :( 4-4 allez! :cheerleader:

Gilles wins the set 7-5 on his 2nd set point also only 2nd BP of the match) ALLEZ!!!

misty1
03-10-2012, 08:17 PM
Thank god he avoided the tiebreaker

misty1
03-10-2012, 08:46 PM
up 5-2 over sela now

misty1
03-10-2012, 08:53 PM
missed a match point on sel'a serve, now serving for it

15-40

broken:rolleyes:

first serve % down at 36% overall and 48% in the set

misty1
03-10-2012, 08:58 PM
5-5

misty1
03-10-2012, 09:00 PM
i can almost sense a 7-5, 6-7, 2-6 loss or something coming

30-0

now 30-30

misty1
03-10-2012, 09:01 PM
holds

Gillouthe best
03-10-2012, 09:24 PM
Lost the second set 6-7(6) :mad:. Gilles, please win this.

Gillouthe best
03-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Scoreboard frozen at 3-4 Sela.

MsTree
03-10-2012, 10:22 PM
PHEW!!! :cheerleader:

misty1
03-10-2012, 10:25 PM
glad to have been wrong

Gillouthe best
03-10-2012, 10:29 PM
Great win considering he was 3-1 down on set 3, and after he squandered 3 match points.

sammy01
03-10-2012, 11:34 PM
that game at 1-3* down 3rd set was huge, 5 bp's saved by sela, 2 gp's for him as well and gilles took it and it turned the match.

will need to be better next match though

lalaland
03-11-2012, 03:30 AM
I left after he lost the TB, I was so deflated after seeing he lost so many MPs and couldn't close it out in 2. And the whole time I was out I couldn't bring myself to check the score :o. Thank goodness he didn't lose this one. Gosh, Gilles, I just really wish that your old self (the clutch one) will be back soon.

Well, Wawa next. The last time they meet, it wasn't pretty. But I'll be optimistic, will try anyway. Allez Gilles!

lalaland
03-11-2012, 07:44 AM
L'Equipe the paper, Tutu talked.

INDIAN WELLS (ATP Masters 1000, dur)
Un set, un break et…

Gasquet a mené 6-3, 5-3 et Benneteau 6-2, 2-0, mais les deux ont perdu. Simon a mené 7-5, 5-2, avant de s’en sortir au forceps après trois heures de jeu…

Simon souffre et s’accroche physiques, glisse son coach Thierry Tulasne. Pendant un mois, on n’a pratiquement fait qu’une chose : gére

GILLES SIMON émarge aujourd’hui au 13e rang mondial mais c’est peu dire qu’il souffre le martyre pour assumer ce dossard. Le mois dernier, parti en Amérique du Sud pour tester ses dispositions sur terre battue, il en est revenu profondément dépité, à la fois par ses résultats (un succès seulement en trois tournois) et par sa condition physique. « Si on évoque cette tournée, je n’ai envie de parler que de ses problèmes douleurs. On a entamé un programme de rééducation du haut du corps mais la tournée a été très stressante : Gilles n’a pas pu travailler, donc il n’a pas obtenu de bons résultats. Logique, s’il n’est pas à cent pour cent il ne bat personne ou presque. » S’il est évidemment impossible de juger à l’oeil nu de l’état du dos de Simon, son manque de confiance, lui, saute littéralement à la figure. Hier, sur le court 7, le Français mena ainsi 7-5, 5-2 face à l’israélien Dudi Sela (63e à L’ATP). Lors du jeu suivant, il se procura une balle de match, qu’il gâcha en sortant largement une attaque de coup droit. Son jeu de service à 5-3 montra une fébrilité grandissante. Débreaké, il rallia pourtant le tie-break, dans lequel il se détacha 4-2 avant d’obtenir une deuxième balle de match à 6-5. Une piètre faute directe en coup droit l’annula. Sela sauta sur l’occasion pour égaliser. Baromètre absolu de la confiance, la faculté de Simon à conclure une partie s’était évaporée dans la chaleur d’indian Wells.

L’exemple de Tsonga

La capacité à lutter, en revanche, coule toujours dans ses veines. Mené 3-1 dans le dernier set, il s’arracha suffisamment pour revenir à hauteur (3-3), réussir le break à 4-4 et apposer le point final sur un revers dans le filet de Sela. Le match avait duré 3 h 5, pour 244 points. Décidément, tout, y compris la victoire, semble devoir se faire dans la douleur… Reste que le problème de fond est loin d’être résolu. Épargné par les blessures durant la majeure partie de sa carrière, Simon subit à vingt-sept ans les affres que connaissent tous les joueurs de haut niveau. « Il ne le vit pas forcément bien, admet Tulasne. Il est en plein doute physiquement. Et il n’a jamais vraiment été habitué à travailler en dehors du court. » Mais l’heure n’est plus aux atermoiements. D’où l’idée du binôme de s’adjoindre les services d’un kiné-ostéopathe. « Ce qu’a réussi Jo (Tsonga) avec Michel (Franco) est un très bon exemple, dit « Tutu ». Ils font beaucoup de prévention et ça donne de super résultats. On va parler avec le doc (Bernard Montalvan) et Chris (Ceccaldi, patron des kinésà la FFT) pour jaugerdu problème et voir s’ils ont un nom à nous conseiller. Mais ce n’est pas si facile que ça de trouver quelqu’un, a fortiori en plein milieu d’année. » En attendant, Simon fait du Simon : il s’accroche. – V. C.


And on Eurosports, that's what he said:
"Je rentre sur le terrain sans savoir si je vais être en mesure de le finir (physiquement) et ça se voit dans le jeu", a expliqué Simon, toujours tiraillé par les soucis physiques récurrents découlant de sa malformation du dos. "J'ai l'impression de pouvoir perdre chaque match contre le premier venu alors je suis juste content d'avoir gagné celui-là et de pouvoir en rejouer un, ça me montre que mon corps tient", a ajouté le Niçois.

Gillouthe best
03-11-2012, 08:28 AM
He will play Wawa on R3. Allez Gilles!

Gilloulou
03-11-2012, 10:43 AM
With Murray gone from the draw, a real chance to really kick off this season. keeping fingers crossed, all 20 :]

Gillouthe best
03-11-2012, 11:39 AM
BTW, he and Mahut lost 4-6 4-6 to Dolgo/Malisse.

moi1227
03-12-2012, 12:20 AM
L'Equipe the paper, Tutu talked.

INDIAN WELLS (ATP Masters 1000, dur)
Un set, un break et…

Gasquet a mené 6-3, 5-3 et Benneteau 6-2, 2-0, mais les deux ont perdu. Simon a mené 7-5, 5-2, avant de s’en sortir au forceps après trois heures de jeu…

Simon souffre et s’accroche physiques, glisse son coach Thierry Tulasne. Pendant un mois, on n’a pratiquement fait qu’une chose : gére

GILLES SIMON émarge aujourd’hui au 13e rang mondial mais c’est peu dire qu’il souffre le martyre pour assumer ce dossard. Le mois dernier, parti en Amérique du Sud pour tester ses dispositions sur terre battue, il en est revenu profondément dépité, à la fois par ses résultats (un succès seulement en trois tournois) et par sa condition physique. « Si on évoque cette tournée, je n’ai envie de parler que de ses problèmes douleurs. On a entamé un programme de rééducation du haut du corps mais la tournée a été très stressante : Gilles n’a pas pu travailler, donc il n’a pas obtenu de bons résultats. Logique, s’il n’est pas à cent pour cent il ne bat personne ou presque. » S’il est évidemment impossible de juger à l’oeil nu de l’état du dos de Simon, son manque de confiance, lui, saute littéralement à la figure. Hier, sur le court 7, le Français mena ainsi 7-5, 5-2 face à l’israélien Dudi Sela (63e à L’ATP). Lors du jeu suivant, il se procura une balle de match, qu’il gâcha en sortant largement une attaque de coup droit. Son jeu de service à 5-3 montra une fébrilité grandissante. Débreaké, il rallia pourtant le tie-break, dans lequel il se détacha 4-2 avant d’obtenir une deuxième balle de match à 6-5. Une piètre faute directe en coup droit l’annula. Sela sauta sur l’occasion pour égaliser. Baromètre absolu de la confiance, la faculté de Simon à conclure une partie s’était évaporée dans la chaleur d’indian Wells.

L’exemple de Tsonga

La capacité à lutter, en revanche, coule toujours dans ses veines. Mené 3-1 dans le dernier set, il s’arracha suffisamment pour revenir à hauteur (3-3), réussir le break à 4-4 et apposer le point final sur un revers dans le filet de Sela. Le match avait duré 3 h 5, pour 244 points. Décidément, tout, y compris la victoire, semble devoir se faire dans la douleur… Reste que le problème de fond est loin d’être résolu. Épargné par les blessures durant la majeure partie de sa carrière, Simon subit à vingt-sept ans les affres que connaissent tous les joueurs de haut niveau. « Il ne le vit pas forcément bien, admet Tulasne. Il est en plein doute physiquement. Et il n’a jamais vraiment été habitué à travailler en dehors du court. » Mais l’heure n’est plus aux atermoiements. D’où l’idée du binôme de s’adjoindre les services d’un kiné-ostéopathe. « Ce qu’a réussi Jo (Tsonga) avec Michel (Franco) est un très bon exemple, dit « Tutu ». Ils font beaucoup de prévention et ça donne de super résultats. On va parler avec le doc (Bernard Montalvan) et Chris (Ceccaldi, patron des kinésà la FFT) pour jaugerdu problème et voir s’ils ont un nom à nous conseiller. Mais ce n’est pas si facile que ça de trouver quelqu’un, a fortiori en plein milieu d’année. » En attendant, Simon fait du Simon : il s’accroche. – V. C.


And on Eurosports, that's what he said:
"Je rentre sur le terrain sans savoir si je vais être en mesure de le finir (physiquement) et ça se voit dans le jeu", a expliqué Simon, toujours tiraillé par les soucis physiques récurrents découlant de sa malformation du dos. "J'ai l'impression de pouvoir perdre chaque match contre le premier venu alors je suis juste content d'avoir gagné celui-là et de pouvoir en rejouer un, ça me montre que mon corps tient", a ajouté le Niçois.

I hope nothing serious which could not be heald

lalaland
03-12-2012, 04:10 AM
Tomorrow OOP:

Stadium 2 (start time 11:am)
Isner vs Monaco
Wawrinka vs Simon

FlameOn
03-12-2012, 04:18 AM
Allex! :bigclap: I'm expecting Wawa to win but whatever.

Glad there are classy players like Gilles around, unlike that scumbag Llodra :smoke:.

sammy01
03-12-2012, 04:24 AM
well stan was a mess against ginepri by all acounts, so if he can battle hard for another win it could do him wonders.

the draw is pretty open for him, he needs to grab this.

Gillouthe best
03-12-2012, 09:31 PM
Allez Gilles!

misty1
03-12-2012, 10:17 PM
he's hardly dropped a point on serve. Not sure if Stan is playing shit or he's actually playing that well

he just broke and will serve for the first set at 5-4

3 aces, 70% first serve

seems like he's serving better than he has in a while

MsTree
03-12-2012, 10:23 PM
Allez! :cheerleader:

misty1
03-12-2012, 10:26 PM
6-4:)

misty1
03-12-2012, 10:34 PM
set and a break up now

keep going gillou!

lalaland
03-12-2012, 11:09 PM
Broken when serving for the match :facepalm:.

C'mon Gilles. Please don't do this to us. Close it out.

lalaland
03-12-2012, 11:11 PM
Another chance to serve the match out. C'mon Gilles. Please hold your nerve and finish the job. Allez Gilles, allez.

lalaland
03-12-2012, 11:14 PM
Yay! He won in 2.

lalaland
03-12-2012, 11:14 PM
That probably has something to do with Wawa having trouble with his thigh, he took a MTO in the 2nd. But then, I can’t be picky these days, any kind of win is a win and I’m happy about it. Gilles’ due for some good luck going his way once in awhile, he has his share of bad lucks in terms of health. Just hope that he can start generating some momentum for himself. Allez!

FlameOn
03-12-2012, 11:15 PM
Congrats Gilles :cheerleader:. He needed this really badly :yeah:.

misty1
03-12-2012, 11:27 PM
good job gillou

how did he play?

lalaland
03-13-2012, 12:13 AM
I was watching on a very choppy stream so I can barely see any point, just here and there, so I can't tell you much. But there's a play-by-play that you can read if you are interested:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/tennis/multiplex/35508.html

misty1
03-13-2012, 12:25 AM
thanks:)

mike s.
03-13-2012, 12:27 AM
Wawrinka was horrible, there's no denying that, he was only decent near the end of the second set when he started going for broke a little bit more. However, Gilles served well and wasn't making the bad errors that he's made in other matches this year. Overall, it was a big step forward and I'm actually hopeful that he can beat Harrison/Garcia-Lopez in the next round.

sammy01
03-13-2012, 02:55 AM
happy enough with that. stan was trying to outrally gilles for most of the match and it didn't work at all. only time stan looked like he could threaten gilles was when he was 1-5 down thought he had lost and started going for it.

it was a half decent match from gilles and i have my fingers crossed he can take advantage of his open draw.

Silver.
03-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Great :D good luck next match Gilles

Gillouthe best
03-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Allez Gilles against Harrison!

misty1
03-15-2012, 01:40 AM
broken serving for the first set and now he;ll serve for a tiebreaker:rolleyes:

misty1
03-15-2012, 01:48 AM
oh god

0-30

15-30

15-40

come on gilles dont do this!

30-40

deuce

adv. gillou

well he held on but im not exactly confident about his chances in a tiebreaker

what in the hell is his tiebreaker record this year anyway..has he won 1 yet? he has to at some point right?

misty1
03-15-2012, 01:48 AM
mb to gillou to start

1-0

2-0

3-0

great start

misty1
03-15-2012, 01:51 AM
6-0 gillou!

misty1
03-15-2012, 01:53 AM
well that was a pleasant surprise

7-6(7-0)

misty1
03-15-2012, 02:02 AM
break ahead in 2nd set now

mike s.
03-15-2012, 03:05 AM
Why :banghead:

Lost three matchpoints including one with a missed overhead :mad:

Hopefully he can regroup and win the third because I know for sure that I couldn't

misty1
03-15-2012, 03:53 AM
5-1 up in the 3rd set and serving

i dont think he can blow this but we'll see. I have seen 5-1 and 5-0 dissolve into 5-7 like 3 times at this tournament already

misty1
03-15-2012, 03:54 AM
never mind

7-6, 5-7, 6-1

good job gillou

mike s.
03-15-2012, 04:30 AM
Congrats Gilles :worship:

It's impressive that he's able to regroup as well as he does after losing matchpoints. Such great progress this week. Isner will be tough but he can do it, he had a lot of chances at the US Open and I think that probably was a more favorable court for Isner.

lalaland
03-15-2012, 05:19 AM
I'm a little too nervous to watch him these days... didn't watch.
So he got nervous again and missed MPs? Well, at least he won it at the end. So happy for him, finally, he took advantage of a friendly draw. Well done. Good luck in the next match. Allez Gilles!

mike s.
03-15-2012, 06:17 AM
That's too bad you couldn't watch, despite the up and down quality it was a really fun match to watch, although the choke was pretty bad. There were some vintage Gilles points in there that reminded me of what made me a fan of his in the first place. He's nowhere near his best but he's fighting and playing so much better this week than he has been since the US open.

FlameOn
03-15-2012, 06:31 AM
Allez allez! :aparty::bounce:

lalaland
03-15-2012, 06:46 AM
That's too bad you couldn't watch, despite the up and down quality it was a really fun match to watch, although the choke was pretty bad. There were some vintage Gilles points in there that reminded me of what made me a fan of his in the first place. He's nowhere near his best but he's fighting and playing so much better this week than he has been since the US open.

Do you know if they shown any on ESPN3? I'm gonna go check that out and see if they go to Harrison after Fed's match.

Here's a nice recap : http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2012/03/pro-form.html
So he was up 5-2 with consecutive MPs and blown them all? Gosh, now I'm really kinda glad I didn't watch, I would have had a nervous breakdown for that :o. Oh well, he won at the end, sometimes, I just have to wonder how if he can't do it in the 2nd, how he does it at the 3rd, which is way more nerve-wrecking...Well, one step at a time, gets more win under the belt then his hands won't shake so much at MPs, hope so.

He plays Isner tomorrow at 7pm Center Court.

MsTree
03-15-2012, 08:01 AM
Yay! :dance: :D :cheerleader:

star
03-15-2012, 05:03 PM
It was such a long match! All the deuces! Oh my god. Anyway Simon impressed many in the crowd who had no idea who he was. Tennis aside, he looked gorgeous on the court. Also so nice to the ball boy who brought him a wet towel. So many long points that had the same pattern. I thought I would see them in my sleep. I still have the printed order of play that has the doubles listed in big bold letters: NOT BEFORE 5 PM. :lol:

Oh, and running out of challenges before the end of the second set? And then down to one by 1 all in the third? :facepalm:

Gillouthe best
03-15-2012, 05:34 PM
Allez Gilles against Isner !

sammy01
03-15-2012, 06:03 PM
the 3 hours of that match took 3 years off my life!

lalaland
03-15-2012, 08:22 PM
Thanks Star, for sharing your thoughts of Gilles' match here. It's nice to hear he gained some fans.

ESPN3 did show the last set after Fed's match, so I'll get to see that when I have time, I can't wait to see that famous hug at the end. I wish I can record it but the whole thing is 9 hrs long for all the 4 matches before Gilles match :(.

So his post-itw was reported bits and pieces everywhere in French media. He pretty much said tennis-wise it wasn't so great from him, he has to do better today. But he's really happy that he can run 3 hrs on court, after all his physical struggle in the past months, just being able to run makes him happy. (Ahhhh, Gilles, you are so easily satisfied. After choking so much in each match, if you stop choking and being efficient, I can't imagine the joy then :p).

Well, anyway, good luck to him today. I fear there'll be TB :scared:. And I also can't ignore the pretext of what this match would mean to him. I mean, USA vs France. Granted, even if he wins IW, I doubt he'll be frontrunner for DC tie on clay. But if he loses, then there's no question that he can schedule a vacation on DC weekend. I know Gilles still wants DC badly, so I hope he can at least show that he can beat Isner. No pressure, no pressure. Just try to do your best Gilles. Allez.

FlameOn
03-16-2012, 04:35 AM
He's missed about 3 absolute sitters from Isner this match already :mad:.

mike s.
03-16-2012, 04:43 AM
He's been pretty bad tonight, hopefully he can turn it around.

Gillouthe best
03-16-2012, 04:45 AM
From 3-1 to 3-6 :mad: Please Gilles, react.

lalaland
03-16-2012, 05:05 AM
The bug really killed his momentum in the first set.

I could be seeing things, but I think his right leg gave way a little when he hit his FH to the net.

And I laugh every time those commentator said Simon rarely shows emotion. Clearly, commentators don't watch him much.

Allez Gilles, there's still hope, Isner playing not much better either.

lalaland
03-16-2012, 05:09 AM
Very strange match so far. But matter not, it's all even at 1-1.

FlameOn
03-16-2012, 05:10 AM
Momentum purely with Gilles now :).

lalaland
03-16-2012, 05:57 AM
Damn shame!

FlameOn
03-16-2012, 05:58 AM
That last game :help:.

I am mad with you Gillou. Very mad :fiery:.

mike s.
03-16-2012, 06:00 AM
Gilles :mad:

John was bad today, there was no reason to lose to him. Gilles just wasn't connecting off the ground and in the tight situation he still doesn't have confidence.

lalaland
03-16-2012, 06:03 AM
So sad. He's still far from getting his mojo back. But at least he's one step toward the right direction.

mike s.
03-16-2012, 06:43 AM
So sad. He's still far from getting his mojo back. But at least he's one step toward the right direction.

Yeah, I'll be fine tomorrow with his week, it was his best since the U.S. Open. I just worry because his frustration with his missed chances last time against Isner sent him into that tailspin and he had chances here again.

lalaland
03-16-2012, 07:10 AM
Yeah, I'll be fine tomorrow with his week, it was his best since the U.S. Open. I just worry because his frustration with his missed chances last time against Isner sent him into that tailspin and he had chances here again.


I'm not too worried. Last USO was in such high after beating DelPo, Isner was a lower seed then, I think Gilles had high expectation of that match and it came down hard on him when he lost. But this time, it's been so difficult for him in the past month. After R2 against Sela, I was quite worried that he choked at MPs in 2nd set and thought that could be hurting his psyche. But the next day, paper said Gilles was actually quite happy that he managed to come back from the 2nd set MPs mishap. I take that he's seeing the glass half full (as compare to my glass half empty view). So I think he'll be fine, well, I hope he'll be fine.

He has QF points to defend in Miami, but I guess this QF in IW probably help takes some pressure off defending those pts.

Gillouthe best
03-16-2012, 07:12 AM
At least he played better this week, but as mike s. says, the last time he lost tightly to John he lost all his confidence.

Gilloulou
03-16-2012, 07:53 AM
what happened in the 3rd? 38% first serve and took like 5 pts on Isner's serve

lalaland
03-16-2012, 08:04 PM
He said he didn't play well and didn't seize the opportunities...but he's fine with the result, sth like that. Well, I really do think he will take some good out of this week despite the loss. But we'll see what happens in Miami. Good luck.

On Eurosports:
En dépit d'un faible rendement au service et de nombreuses fautes directes, John Isner (N.11) est parvenu à battre Gilles Simon (N.13) 6-3, 1-6, 7-5, jeudi soir, en 1/4 de finale du Masters 1000 d'Indian Wells.

Simon (N.13), battu 3-6, 6-1, 5-7 par le 11e mondial, était le dernier Français en lice dans le désert californien. Plus tôt, la N.1 tricolore Marion Bartoli, nettement amoindrie par un virus qui sévit depuis le début du tournoi, n'avait pu résister à la Serbe Ana Ivanovic (N.15) en quart de finale. Après avoir cédé la deuxième manche avec des faiblesses inhabituelles au service, Isner a serré la vis dans le troisième set pour ne pas offrir une balle de break à Simon, qui a senti la pression au moment de servir à 5-6.

Un mauvais jeu du Français au mauvais moment, avec trois erreurs de sa part, et le match s'est subitement envolé alors que l'Américain avait offert auparavant quelques "cadeaux" bienvenus. "Je n'ai pas joué à mon meilleur niveau et Gilles non plus, on s'est battu comme on pouvait dans ce match. Mon coach m'a dit que ce n'était pas du Picasso sur le terrain", a indiqué le géant Isner (2,06 m), qui rencontrera samedi pour une place en finale le Serbe Novak Djokovic, N.1 mondial et tenant du titre. "C'était comme à l'US Open (où le Français avait perdu en quatre sets en septembre, ndlr), il y avait la place de gagner mais je n'ai pas été bon dans ces moments-là", a concédé Simon, qui a aussi déploré son "manque de fond de jeu".

"Content d'en être là"

"J'étais arrivé ici avec beaucoup de pépins physiques, et le problème, dans ces cas-là, c'est que tu ne t'entraînes pas. Du coup, je n'avais que ma première balle de service pour lui faire mal. Quand l'échange est lancé, je ne peux pas faire le point, j'attends la faute. Si j'arrive à m'entraîner, il y a des choses qui vont se remettre en place", a-t-il aussi expliqué. Même si le Français a raté une belle occasion d'entrer dans le dernier carré, il a tiré des motifs de satisfaction de son parcours en Californie, où il était arrivé avec le moral à zéro après une catastrophique tournée sud-américaine sur terre battue (un match gagné en trois tournois).

"Mon état de santé est bien meilleur. J'ai fait quatre matches de bonne intensité, je vais essayer de garder ça pour le prochain tournoi (à Miami la semaine prochaine, ndlr). J'ai été surpris de ma résistance, de ma capacité à tenir les matches, car ce n'est pas le fruit des footings..." Simon a notamment livré deux matches de trois heures, face à Dudi Sela au 2e tour et Ryan Harrison en 8e de finale, dans lesquels il n'a pas craqué après avoir pourtant gâché des balles de match en deuxième manche. "Je suis content d'en être là", a assuré le natif de Nice, qui a conforté son actuel statut de N.2 Français au détriment de Gaël Monfils, forfait à cause du virus, et de Richard Gasquet, éliminé au 2e tour malgré une balle de match.

misty1
03-17-2012, 01:25 PM
well the loss sucks but overall it was a good week. Much needed really and hopefully he continues on

I just dont get why he has trouble with isner, to me it seems like that is someone he should be able to out play. He has such a good return and yet among the better returners on tour he's probably got the worst record against big servers

lalaland
03-17-2012, 08:32 PM
better returners on tour he's probably got the worst record against big servers

Not true, unless you can provide data to support this statement.

And btw, the key to playing big server is more so the ability to hold your own serves than to break. You get so much pressure on your own serve knowing that if you got broken, it will be hard to get the break back. That's the psychological edge the big server got over the others. Then again, I'm not tennis pro, so what do I know.

Otherwise, we move on to Miami, draw comes out on Monday. He's also playing double with Mahut. He had QF points to defend in Miami, so hope he does well there this year too. Allez.

Gilloulou
03-17-2012, 11:03 PM
yeah he should be drilling Isner like in the 2nd set. he always breaks his serve and gets loads of chances, don't get it why he couldn't close it... well i get it, i don't like it.

and now Isner made it to the final which is even more annoying.

happy thoughts, time for the east cost now.

lalaland
03-19-2012, 07:03 PM
Gilles' in Murray's R4 again :mad:, making it v. hard for me to cheer for Andy. Oh well....


[13] Gilles Simon (FRA) bye
Qualifier - Andreas Seppi (ITA)
Robin Haase (NED) - [WC] Marinko Matosevic (AUS)
[22] Jurgen Melzer (AUT) bye

[26] Milos Raonic (CAN) bye
Dudi Sela (ISR) - Qualifier
Alejandro Falla (COL) - Denis Istomin (UZB)
[4] Andy Murray (GBR) bye



Good luck Gilles.

Gillouthe best
03-19-2012, 07:05 PM
Not a good draw I guess, Seppi on R2 might be dangerous, but the Italian form is really bad lately. Melzer latest form hasn't been excellent, but he won Memphis, that will be a tough match for Gilles if he gets there. Then Murray/Raonic on R4, let's see if Andy plays again as bad as he did in IW.

mike s.
03-19-2012, 07:50 PM
I don't think the draw is too bad. Obviously getting to the quarters again will be tough but he should get to the fourth round if he is playing well. It's possible Murray loses to Raonic but he'll probably be the underdog against either in the R16 if he gets there. Good luck!

Gilloulou
03-19-2012, 09:45 PM
i dont think he would prefer meeting the top 3 in the 4th round and the rest of the opponents are all beatable. and istomin was good at IW so who knows what could happen. thinking big for a change! we want SF at least :]]

lalaland
03-19-2012, 10:45 PM
He's seeded 13th, so he's supposed to get Top 4 in 4th round. Obviously, based on the head-to-head, he's best match-up to Fed, and worse to Andy. I guess it was silver-lining that he's in Andy's route last tournament and Andy happened to lose early. Don't think it's happening again though. But facing Raonic is not much better. Then again, I'm ahead of myself, let's see if he gets to the 2nd week (his half plays first, so he should play R2 on friday and R3 on sunday). I want him to win the whole thing (why settle for SF ;)). I also want to be in Miami under the hot sun right now, but I'm still at work indoor just barely avoiding snow here. Sad!

FlameOn
03-20-2012, 01:08 AM
Good luck Gillou :yeah:. Please make 4R at least.

Gilloulou
03-20-2012, 11:43 AM
sad words, cause winter is pretty much over here this week, i might just go to the beach :]

lalaland
03-20-2012, 06:20 PM
Winter is pretty much over everywhere, except where I live :mad:. My heater is still blasting just 3 feet from me. It's even more annoying that on the national news, they are reporting heat-wave all around the country, and then the local news comes on and tell us there's a chance of snow.


Ahhh, Sorry for the rant. The weather is depressing me.

Gilloulou
03-20-2012, 10:46 PM
relocation :]

lalaland
03-20-2012, 11:12 PM
relocation :]


:lol:

good one.

lalaland
03-21-2012, 08:36 PM
Double draw for Gilles/Nico:

MAHUT, Nicolas (FRA)/SIMON, Gilles (FRA)
ANDERSON, Kevin (RSA)/RAONIC, Milos (CAN)

DOLGOPOLOV, Alexandr (UKR)/MALISSE, Xavier (BEL)
3 LLODRA, Michael (FRA)/ZIMONJIC, Nenad (SRB)


So first round facing the 2 big servers, very hard. Good luck Team Frenchie.

MsTree
03-21-2012, 10:50 PM
Gillou will play qualifier Roberto Bautista in R2. Allez!!!

lalaland
03-23-2012, 01:06 AM
Simon/Mahut lost their double match to Anderson/Raonic - super TB 7-10

Gilles plays Bautista-Agut tomorrow 1st match at GrandStand, match will start at 11am. Allez Gilles.

mike s.
03-23-2012, 01:27 AM
Simon/Mahut lost their double match to Anderson/Raonic - super TB 7-10

Gilles plays Bautista-Agut tomorrow 1st match at GrandStand, match will start at 11am. Allez Gilles.

:( At least he seems to be be much more competitive in doubles this year.

Good luck Gilles, I've never seen Bautista play so I have no idea what to expect which worries me a little bit.

lalaland
03-23-2012, 04:58 AM
I've never seen Bautista play so I have no idea what to expect which worries me a little bit.

Me too. I don't like my fave playing qualifier at the first place, those unknown one is even more worrisome. Just hope the good Gilles shows up.

Gilloulou
03-23-2012, 04:59 PM
4-4 in the first, 33% first serve and with 2 break points. thank god i'm not watching

misty1
03-23-2012, 05:04 PM
the first set went like this:

gilles breaks for early 2-0 lead

bautista-agut gets it to 4-2

gilles break back and then break again, takes the set 6-4. Served it out at love

doesn't seem to be playing that great.

mike s.
03-23-2012, 05:09 PM
Typical Gilles set :lol:

Knowing him he'll probably lose the second but hopefully he pulls it out.

misty1
03-23-2012, 05:39 PM
6-4, 6-2

MUCH better second set. much better serving as well. He had only dropped 2 points on serve all set until he served for it and then he had to save 2 break points before closing it out

Gillouthe best
03-23-2012, 05:42 PM
Good win Gilles :worship:, now Melzer or Haase on R3, they are now on third set.

misty1
03-23-2012, 05:43 PM
Its so nice to see him winning a match in 2 relatively easy sets. For once he didn't make to much fuss out of a match he should be winning easily

Gilloulou
03-23-2012, 05:43 PM
6-4, 6-2, yay :]]]

Gillouthe best
03-25-2012, 05:15 PM
Allez Gilles vs Melzer, it's a tricky one, let's see what he will do.

lalaland
03-25-2012, 07:37 PM
Well, I missed a couple of games and then I came back to see Gilles was getting medical treatment for his lower back. It looks painful :(, And the next Melzer's service game, he can barely hit the ball. The following TB though, he played great and get to a 5-0 lead, and then lost a bunch before taking it at 7-5. Ahhh, that back sucks. Hopefully, he can make another set out and win it in 2.

Winner/UE ratio: Simon:13-7, Melzer:14-21
Not bad. But it's a different game to play 2nd set with a back problem. Oh well, we'll see.

Gillouthe best
03-25-2012, 07:46 PM
Already a break down, he seems in pain.

lalaland
03-25-2012, 07:47 PM
Second set already looks rather bad.

lalaland
03-25-2012, 07:56 PM
Took some pills after set 1, should kick in about now? He's down 1-3. Well, he's going for his shots as much as he can, and Melzer is putting the ball back for Gilles to miss, so the contrasting style still in effect, :lol:. Although, I'm not really laughing as a Simon fan, hate to see him playing with pain, as he so often does.

lalaland
03-25-2012, 07:57 PM
He broke back, on serve now at 2-3. Can still hope that he can do it in 2. Allez Gilles.

lalaland
03-25-2012, 08:04 PM
He looks like he's getting more comfortable now, bless those painkillers. On serve 3-4, but he serves 2nd in this set.

lalaland
03-25-2012, 08:08 PM
Gosh, I hate those American commentators, Sam Gore is as bad as Doug Adler.

lalaland
03-25-2012, 08:09 PM
And the match is not pretty at the moment. But for Gilles, it's all about surviving thru this. C'mon Gilles.

lalaland
03-25-2012, 08:11 PM
Melzer imploding, UEs gives Gilles 3 BPs, and then he dropshot Gilles but Gilles get to the ball and put it down the line past Melzer. He broke. Now, please go serve the match out, please, no hiccup.

misty1
03-25-2012, 08:15 PM
7-6, 6-4

lalaland
03-25-2012, 08:15 PM
Ace, 15-0
Moved Melzer around, forced an error, 30-0
Melzer dropshot UE, 40-0
Good shot hit the sideline and Melzer hit it out. GSM

Won 7-6, 6-4. Good man.

W/UE ratio: Simon: 20/15 Melzer 20/35

Next, the opponent is Murray and a bad back. Tough task, oh well. Good luck.

Gillouthe best
03-25-2012, 08:16 PM
He won, so glad, he was clearly in pain but still he won this :worship:

misty1
03-25-2012, 08:18 PM
sucks that murray is up next but gillou has had two good runs in back to back masters events which is what he needed after the year he's had so far

hopefully his back will be okay

mike s.
03-25-2012, 08:36 PM
I could see him pull out here unfortunately. Still, great to see him winning a lot lately.

Gilloulou
03-25-2012, 08:38 PM
ahh darn it, i even ordered the cable channel to watch the tourney but i was playing myself when he did... still, he won :] and even dimitrov won, which is nice too.

maybe murray will surprisingly pull out before he does ;]

MsTree
03-26-2012, 12:41 AM
Gosh, I hate those American commentators, Sam Gore is as bad as Doug Adler.

NO ONE is as bad as Doug Adler! Not even Frew McMillian!

Nice win for Gillou but I'm worried about his back :eek:

FlameOn
03-26-2012, 01:05 AM
Yay! :cheerleader: But oh no is he injured? :(

misty1
03-26-2012, 01:49 AM
maybe Gillou can end the losing streak here. After all Miami has been one of Murray's worst tournaments recently ..maybe the location can give gillou a little help.

mike s.
03-26-2012, 05:41 AM
He was very down in his post-match interview about his back and didn't seem to think he had much of a chance against Murray, particularly if he wasn't 100%. It didn't sound very promising to me but I hope that a day's rest will make him feel better.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 12:14 AM
Gilles plays the 3rd match on Grandstand tomorrow, hopefully, he can play. Allez.

Silver.
03-27-2012, 01:51 AM
Hope he is okay to play tomorrow. Happy with his performance this tourney though :) Allez Gillou

MsTree
03-27-2012, 08:36 PM
Gillou time :D Allez! :cheerleader:

lalaland
03-27-2012, 08:59 PM
Very long first game, watching this match will be exhausting :p. Then again, I don't mind, I want a very competitive match from these two, the longer the better, unless Gilles can do it in 2 ;).

misty1
03-27-2012, 09:01 PM
He was very down in his post-match interview about his back and didn't seem to think he had much of a chance against Murray, particularly if he wasn't 100%. It didn't sound very promising to me but I hope that a day's rest will make him feel better.

damn that doesnt sound to encouraging

misty1
03-27-2012, 09:02 PM
3rd break point

take it already!

lalaland
03-27-2012, 09:06 PM
17 mins 15 secs for the first game, a lot of BPs but couldn't convert any. Andy always came up with the good on those BPs though. Now hopefully, Gilles can hold his. Allez.

Gillouthe best
03-27-2012, 09:06 PM
Does he seem affected by his back problems?

misty1
03-27-2012, 09:10 PM
love hold by gillou

nicely done

Gillouthe best
03-27-2012, 09:19 PM
0-40, Gilles serving at 17%

Gillouthe best
03-27-2012, 09:20 PM
Broken :mad:

lalaland
03-27-2012, 09:20 PM
He looks fine, so far. But these are very brutal games, they run each other around, as you can imagine. 4 games and it's already been half an hour. I don't think his back can hold for a long match. Well, he's already down a break...

Gillouthe best
03-27-2012, 09:24 PM
This is going fast now, 1-4.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 09:24 PM
Yes, he's going downhill fast. :(
He's slow to the ball now, already.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 09:27 PM
Only hit 1 first serve, it was that Ace.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 09:31 PM
Well, first serve is 2 for 2. Not that it's any consolation when you are serving 14%.

MsTree
03-27-2012, 09:34 PM
Fux sake Gillou!!! Andy's definitely beatable but not without a serve! Allez!!!

Gillouthe best
03-27-2012, 09:34 PM
2-5, 14% of FS.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 09:44 PM
Thanks for switching court and not showing us the stat :rolleyes:

lalaland
03-27-2012, 09:47 PM
Andy has problem with Gilles' challenge in the first set? :lol: Andy, c'mon, give Gilles a break, you already has the upper hand in the match :p.

MsTree
03-27-2012, 09:51 PM
He was having a go at the umpire - Gillou asked him if he had a problem with him and he said no. According to Mark Petchey on Sky anyway :)

lalaland
03-27-2012, 09:56 PM
I know. Just thought it's funny that he complains at all, with the Umpire. I'm not whining, but I found it funny that he has a problem with that. And that challenge is like in the first game.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 10:00 PM
Oh Les, can u tell me what's the other commentator's name? It's bugging me that I can't recall his name. I like him though, he's fair, unlike other American. And he was with Petchey commenting Gilles' match in Paris against Legenda ages ago.

MsTree
03-27-2012, 10:03 PM
Peter Fleming :D We've got the Sky dream team for this match :D

lalaland
03-27-2012, 10:06 PM
I've watched Gilles' matches with so much anxiety lately, watching this match is kinda relaxing. Sadly, that's probably due to the fact that I'm not expecting Gilles to win.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 10:10 PM
Peter Fleming :D We've got the Sky dream team for this match :D

Yes, I like this team very much, almost as much as Goodall and Koenig.

MsTree
03-27-2012, 10:12 PM
Yes, I like this team very much, almost as much as Goodall and Koenig.

Agreed!

Good stuff from Gillou! Massive hold from 0-40 and he's wearing Andy out a wee bit. Mr Lendl will be having words :tape: :lol:

MsTree
03-27-2012, 10:21 PM
Damn spoke too soon! Broken :( 3-4

lalaland
03-27-2012, 10:26 PM
:lol: Gilles yelled out after Andy missed. And he has a smile on his face, like "finally, he missed before me" :p. Gilles' relax too, maybe he's like me, not thinking high on his chance.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 10:28 PM
Damn, that's a great lob from Andy. Poor Gilles, having to run so much...

lalaland
03-27-2012, 10:29 PM
Guy's watching. Why he bothers, he already announced the team and Gilles' not invited.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 10:35 PM
Well, lost 3-6, 4-6. He tried, but not good enough.

He doesn't need to attend for DC, so next tournament for him is Monte Carlo, starts in 4/16.

Now go get rest and get your back fixed, Gilles. :hug:

mike s.
03-27-2012, 10:38 PM
Oh well, Gilles just doesn't know what to do against him. It's such a bad match-up but it was a solid tournament, got some points and hopefully some confidence from these two weeks.

Hopefully he can improve on the clay, he's so up and down on this surface.

mike s.
03-27-2012, 10:43 PM
Well, lost 3-6, 4-6. He tried, but not good enough.

He doesn't need to attend for DC, so next tournament for him is Monte Carlo, starts in 4/16.

Now go get rest and get your back fixed, Gilles. :hug:

I'm so glad that the Olympics are decided by ranking and not what Forget wants because I'd be worried if Forget got to decide the Olympics spots.

lalaland
03-27-2012, 10:49 PM
I'm so glad that the Olympics are decided by ranking and not what Forget wants because I'd be worried if Forget got to decide the Olympics spots.

Yes, indeed. But then, I still worry. Who knows what kind of pull Guy has, he can't change the Olympics rule, but he can certainly change the French Federation's eligibility rule. Eventhough I don't think that's possible, but I still can't be sure if Gilles is safe. The only way is that Gilles does his job well during the clay season so that they can't find a way to exclude him.

Then again, I was kinda glad that he doesn't need to play DC, I want him to take some rest for his back, and he still sucks on clay in my eyes.

FlameOn
03-28-2012, 12:17 AM
Gilles :awww:.

MsTree
03-28-2012, 07:03 AM
For the Olympics if there are more players eligible for a country than places available then the country's olympic committee decides I think! It doesn't necessarily go on ranking :o

misty1
03-28-2012, 03:56 PM
gilles better get to play if he's eligable. I'm already pissed off enough about marion's situation

mike s.
03-28-2012, 05:07 PM
I brought this up but I'm not too worried. The Olympics qualifications say: "An NOC/National Association which has more than 4 players eligible for direct acceptance into a singles event should select its 4 highest ranked eligible players based on the computer rankings."

It doesn't say "must" so I guess they could get around it but I don't think they will. It's different from Davis Cup because Llodra and Benneteau can still play doubles without taking two singles spots. My guess is it will be Tsonga, Simon, Monfils, and Gasquet for singles and Benneteau/Llodra and a combination of Tsonga, Monfils, and Gasquet for the second doubles team. Who knows for mixed doubles, particularly with Bartoli out. I'm not sure anyone will even qualify from France for the women. :o

lalaland
03-28-2012, 06:17 PM
I think the double is pretty much set. It's Tsonga-Llodra, Gasquet-Monfils. Strange, eh? I thought so. Cos I would have bet my house that Mika will want to pair with Benny (and good that I didn't), I thought Mika has the say on who he pairs with, but turned out that it seems Tsonga is the one who was asked who he wants to pair with and of course he said Mika. What I also don't understand is why Gasquet/Monfils, why not Gasquet/Benny? It just seems to me that Benny is a better double player than that 2. Oh well, politics, I guess. Benny reportedly was very upset that he's been left out of the double teams. I would if I were him.

So yes, that's why I am worry. When it comes to the French team, results may have no weight on the outcome of the decision. All a player can do is do his part, and if Gilles plays well enough in the next 3 months and still got left out, then he has no regrets (well, maybe a little, for not kissing Guy's ass, which is the right thing to do).

mike s.
03-28-2012, 08:00 PM
I think the double is pretty much set. It's Tsonga-Llodra, Gasquet-Monfils. Strange, eh? I thought so. Cos I would have bet my house that Mika will want to pair with Benny (and good that I didn't), I thought Mika has the say on who he pairs with, but turned out that it seems Tsonga is the one who was asked who he wants to pair with and of course he said Mika. What I also don't understand is why Gasquet/Monfils, why not Gasquet/Benny? It just seems to me that Benny is a better double player than that 2. Oh well, politics, I guess. Benny reportedly was very upset that he's been left out of the double teams. I would if I were him.

So yes, that's why I am worry. When it comes to the French team, results may have no weight on the outcome of the decision. All a player can do is do his part, and if Gilles plays well enough in the next 3 months and still got left out, then he has no regrets (well, maybe a little, for not kissing Guy's ass, which is the right thing to do).

Wow, I didn't know that. That's sort of unfair to Benneteau, why wouldn't you maximize the number of players who can make the team? Particularly when Gasquet and Monfils aren't that good at doubles (I don't think Monfils has won a match since Hamburg when he played with Gilles.)

I think singles are a little bit different because only the top 10 are direct acceptance for doubles although I wouldn't put it past Guy to give Benneteau the fourth singles spot because he beat Gilles at the Aussie Open even though he's 15-20 ranking spots behind him or even just let Llodra play and only invite four players when there could be six :rolleyes:

I really dislike Forget and the FFT sometimes.

lalaland
03-28-2012, 09:06 PM
I liked Guy when he was a player, not so much when he's the DC captain. But having said that, he's the boss, I understand his grief with Gilles. Coach doesn't like player openly defy him, undermining his power. And I love Gilles for doing just that cos it's a brave thing to do to defy your boss knowing that will put your job on the line. But it's quite natural that Guy doesn't like Gilles much if at all.

I have problem with letting feelings interfere with the coach decision. If he wants to put the priority in the country winning, that's quite fine, that's what it should be done. Then why no Benny on the team? Nothing against Monfils but he's as hopeless as Gilles on double, Not going with Benny completely blowing that theory of country winning first out of the water.

So I think it is obvious that it will go the way wherever TPTB likes it, and that really kinda put Gilles and Benny in a very difficult positions. At the moment, Gilles is still several hundreds pts ahead of Benny and Richard. I hope by June, the pt gap between him and the other 2 is still big enough that excluding him will make TPTB looks bad.

misty1
03-29-2012, 01:49 AM
i know this is not the place and i promise i wont talk about it forever but i was just curious what everyone here thought about marion not being able to play the olympics

lalaland
03-29-2012, 02:46 AM
Is she ineligible because she refused to play Fed Cup? I actually don't know much of the background. I think it's a pity cos I like her and she is good. Well, personally, I see Olympics as a reward for personal achievement than anything else. I know there's always the glory for the country, but unless you play a team sports, it's an individual thing. So, I think it's a real pity that they don't let her go. But then, the rule is there, sometimes they have to give in to oblige the rule. And I don't know why she doesn't play FC, is it something personal or if she hates the coach or whatever the reason (again, I don't really know the story behind it).

So I really don't know who's right or wrong, it's just a shame that the #1 French woman isn't gonna be allowed to play.

misty1
03-29-2012, 03:01 AM
Is she ineligible because she refused to play Fed Cup? I actually don't know much of the background. I think it's a pity cos I like her and she is good. Well, personally, I see Olympics as a reward for personal achievement than anything else. I know there's always the glory for the country, but unless you play a team sports, it's an individual thing. So, I think it's a real pity that they don't let her go. But then, the rule is there, sometimes they have to give in to oblige the rule. And I don't know why she doesn't play FC, is it something personal or if she hates the coach or whatever the reason (again, I don't really know the story behind it).

So I really don't know who's right or wrong, it's just a shame that the #1 French woman isn't gonna be allowed to play.

from what i know about it she was willing to play fed cup but they didnt want to allow her to take her father as her coach. She didnt want to use the team coach alone and they didnt want her father there. Its rediculous because i know the czech republic did let petra kvitova have her father there as a coach during fed cup play.

So from what i understand it is more of an issue with the coach because marion has made herself available but because of the whole situation with her father they didnt select her

mike s.
03-29-2012, 07:08 AM
This is a tough one for me. One the one hand, I completely understand why they would want to reward players who play for their country throughout the four years so you don't just show up and get the glory. On the other hand, the requirements seem ridiculous because it is just used as a way to make sure Davis Cup and Fed Cup stay relevant. It really has no relation to whether or not the best players will be selected to play for their country in the Olympics.

The benefit for tennis players is that there is a built in ranking system that can easily be used to determine qualification unlike other sports. They don't really need to gel as a team beforehand and it's also not like Gymnastics or something, where there's no clear way to rank the players (at least not that I know of)

Anyway, I think in the end she should be able to play because there are so many factors that come into play with Davis Cup and Fed Cup. For example, if Gilles hated the coach (which he probably does :p), and didn't want to play Davis Cup anymore, I don't think he should be penalized just because of one bad relationship. Or, for example if Andy Roddick didn't want to play Davis Cup these last two years because he's getting older and it wears his body out, I still think he should be able to play the Olympics, particularly because he's represented his country for so many years.

lalaland
03-29-2012, 06:42 PM
So Marion did make herself available, provided daddy can come, they don't pick her because of that? So, on what ground can they say she is ineligible then? She did make herself available. They just don't want her. I see all those Frenchies' coaches showing up on DC weeks with their players all the times. So I don't know why they don't like Dr. Bartoli there. Is it because Marion won't let anyone coach her except her personal coach? And they have a problem with that?

I really can't quite understand the DC thing. I mean, every player has their own coach, and you go to play DC one week and they have the captain trying to change the way you play for that week cos he thinks that's the only way you can win (well, referring to Gilles' case of course, that Forget wants him not to play his game but to play Forget's game), that's just so silly. I mean, sure Forget's game is good, and if everyone can pick it up in one week, I'm all for that, it's just...well, impossible. To me, all this captain/coach situation in DC is just one big power struggle. That's my theory why Gilles sucks in DC, because he's always confused, when you are losing and your captain tells you to do something you don't normally do, you'll be in that court thinking, should I follow the captain's order or should I do what I usually do to dig myself out of troubles. So it ended up a mess for him since he's not sure which way to go anymore.

Well, anyway. I feel bad for Marion. She was a Wimbledon finalist once, she has probably 10 times more chance than any other french woman player to get close to a medal. And more importantly, she's in good form (atm anyway, since she just gave Vika her first loss of the year). France just shoot herself at the foot for not letting her go.

misty1
03-29-2012, 09:00 PM
So Marion did make herself available, provided daddy can come, they don't pick her because of that? So, on what ground can they say she is ineligible then? She did make herself available. They just don't want her. I see all those Frenchies' coaches showing up on DC weeks with their players all the times. So I don't know why they don't like Dr. Bartoli there. Is it because Marion won't let anyone coach her except her personal coach? And they have a problem with that?

I really can't quite understand the DC thing. I mean, every player has their own coach, and you go to play DC one week and they have the captain trying to change the way you play for that week cos he thinks that's the only way you can win (well, referring to Gilles' case of course, that Forget wants him not to play his game but to play Forget's game), that's just so silly. I mean, sure Forget's game is good, and if everyone can pick it up in one week, I'm all for that, it's just...well, impossible. To me, all this captain/coach situation in DC is just one big power struggle. That's my theory why Gilles sucks in DC, because he's always confused, when you are losing and your captain tells you to do something you don't normally do, you'll be in that court thinking, should I follow the captain's order or should I do what I usually do to dig myself out of troubles. So it ended up a mess for him since he's not sure which way to go anymore.

Well, anyway. I feel bad for Marion. She was a Wimbledon finalist once, she has probably 10 times more chance than any other french woman player to get close to a medal. And more importantly, she's in good form (atm anyway, since she just gave Vika her first loss of the year). France just shoot herself at the foot for not letting her go.

yeah, thats pretty much it. I agree with you too. Marion has tried different appeals to get into the olympics but all have failed

anyway i guess its time to get back to talking about gilles now

lalaland
03-29-2012, 10:19 PM
The benefit for tennis players is that there is a built in ranking system that can easily be used to determine qualification unlike other sports. They don't really need to gel as a team beforehand and it's also not like Gymnastics or something, where there's no clear way to rank the players (at least not that I know of)


Yes, the ranking system has no ambiguity, to me is the best system to determine who got to go, especially for individual sports. I don't know all that much about other sports, but like swimming, that uses Olympic trial and you have to do well on that day to be selected. I mean, if you are great all around for the whole year and just have a bad day that day (like catching a virus), wouldn't that sucks load? I don't know if they have anything else in the remainder field to help compensate for this do it or die 1 chance situation.

The other sports I know, well, more like the athlete I know, Bode Miller (my fav ;)), he left the national ski team bcos he doesn't like the coaches, for a year, and that year he won the overall championship on his own. Then he went back to the National team the next year (bcos all his team crews retired after he won the championship, since they all kinda came out of retirements to join his team that year). The National team finally let Bode do things his way when he rejoined. And he won 3 medals the following Olympics. (Sorry, can't let a chance to tell his story gets away ;)). But the moral of the story, it's the player to do their job to win those medals, the team is there to facilitate them to maximize their chance, not the other way round. Especially Olympics is nothing like DC, it's not a team effort competition.

Ok, I think I maybe off-topic a bit, just like a chance to rant about DC/Olympics in general. :D

lalaland
04-05-2012, 06:06 PM
Didn't expect the clay season to start for another 2 weeks, but it is starting now. Oh well.

Gilles plays the 2nd match in DC against John Isner tomorrow. The first match Jo/Harrison starts at noon local time. So good news is I don't have to wake up at 3am to watch, bad news is, if Gilles' match doesn't finish at 6pm local time, I won't be able to record the end.

Well, good luck Gilles.

Gillouthe best
04-05-2012, 07:05 PM
Allez Gilles vs Isner!

Gillouthe best
04-06-2012, 03:32 PM
Already a set and a break down. This is not looking pretty

mike s.
04-06-2012, 03:51 PM
Gilles on clay sometimes :o

John's playing well but he just hasn't been getting any depth on his shots.

mike s.
04-06-2012, 05:35 PM
Hopefully Gilles won't get too down. John was too good today and by the time Gilles found his footing in the match it was too late. Ultimately, I hope he takes this as good practice for Monte Carlo and getting comfortable on the surface because he needs to get more depth on his shots or he is going to be pushed around.

lalaland
04-06-2012, 07:06 PM
Well, that's disappointing, not that I have a lot of expectation, but still. Isner imposed his game, didn't let Gilles played Gilles' game at all, so John done well on executing his game plan while Gilles failed miserably. The one disadvantage that we think Isner has (which is his movement, eventhough it's not bad at all for a big guy) is not there to be taken advantage of, he just simply don't need to run for many balls. Gilles' shots were very short, but that has got to do with Isner's power, and that nasty kick on the 2nd serve because of how high that 2nd serve usually bounced. I always thought Gilles handled John's 1st serve better than the 2nd. The 2nd set, very disappointed, Gilles almost looked shell-shock, I know John was near perfect in the 2nd , but I'm still disappointed at Gilles' inability to handle the situation better. The 3rd is much better, since he found his footing and seem to have a better idea of how to counter what John's doing.

Somehow, I'm not too worry about this loss. I think Gilles knows well that's not much he can do when he's overpowered like that. He've seen that before - last year at RG against Soderling, and John played better than Soderling that day. The second set is so dismal but he's able to steady himself and get something going in the 3rd, just enough to save this match from a total disaster. Hopefully when he plays Monte Carlo 2 weeks later, he won't run into Isner again, because his game on clay is probably the perfect match up for John.

Gillouthe best
04-08-2012, 04:02 PM
He won the dead rubber vs Harrison easily, 6-2 6-3. It would have been good to have seen a live 5th rubber vs Ryan, I think he would have won it.

mike s.
04-08-2012, 06:33 PM
He won the dead rubber vs Harrison easily, 6-2 6-3. It would have been good to have seen a live 5th rubber vs Ryan, I think he would have won it.

I agree, I think he would have won too. However, even though I like Jo, I'm kind of happy he lost so that the loss can't be blamed on Gilles :o

lalaland
04-08-2012, 08:26 PM
I was also hoping that the 5th rubber would be live, I'm sure Gilles will beat Ryan in a live rubber also.
But I'm not gonna lie, I don't feel sad that France lost. DC is always a source of frustration (for me anyway), so the sooner it's over, the better. Now, just hope Gilles will have a good clay season.

Gillouthe best
04-08-2012, 08:34 PM
Also, it's last year Forget is DC captain. It's a good new for Gilles I guess, and I think a new captain may help him with DC.

GilleSimonAddict
04-09-2012, 03:12 AM
Personally, I find Gilles Simon winning the last dead rubber of Guy Forget's captaincy so easily over Harrison very ironic and fitting. Almost like a, "Now i'll show you what I can really do since it doesn't matter anymore for you Guy". A nice passive aggressive big 'ol F U to Guy Forget from Gilles for the many times he has slighted him even at his own detriment (5th rubber Troicki loss in finals against Serbia anyone?) Yes, a very fitting end to Guy Forget. Also noticed that Gilles was the only one crying very little over it while the rest of Guy's little boys club of his preferred players were balling their eyes out. :devil:

lalaland
04-09-2012, 07:20 AM
L'Equipe's postmordem:

Autopsie d’un échec

Incapable d’évoluer au même niveau que les Américains, avec un Isner bluffant, l’équipe de France a fini le nez dans la poussière.

Carlo un extraordinaire leader. Deux mois après avoir dégommé Roger Federer (3e mondial) à Fribourg, trois semaines après avoir épinglé Novak Djokovic (no 1) à Indian Wells, John Isner a successivement dégoûté Gilles Simon (13e) et Jo-wilfried Tsonga (6e) sur le central du MCCC. Tout le monde le savait capable de pratiquer un tennis terrific. Personne ne l’imaginait en mesure de soutenir cette hauteur de vue du premier au dernier point. Hier, dans un match de muerte contre un Tsonga « extrêmement concentré et concerné » (dixit Arnaud Di Pasquale), il n’a jamais baissé de pied, y compris après la perte du troisième set. Chapeau bas. L’hommage unanime de ses camarades mais aussi du clan français témoigne du respect immense suscité par sa performance. « L’équipe de Courier est belle, ambitieuse et défend des vraies valeurs, a souligné Forget, admiratif. Et John a tout simplement été énorme. »

TSONGA AURAIT-IL PU MIEUX FAIRE ?

Oui, en ne concédant pas bêtement (deux fautes en coup droit, deux doubles fautes) son service au huitième jeu du premier set. De même à l’entame du quatrième set jugée « catastrophique » par Nicolas Escudé au micro de Sport + : « Des fautes directes, du déchet, un break et derrière, c’est quasiment fini… » Pour le reste, Tsonga a été battu par un Isner supersonique, qui a tout de même écarté onze balles de break sur douze lors de ses deux simples. Pour l’anecdote, sa seule rature (qui offrit le troisième set au Français) résulta d’une double faute… « Ça m’agaçait de voir que je l’admirais autant, avoua Forget. Vous ne pouvez pas savoir comme ça me gonflait… Chaque fois qu’il était dos au mur, il sortait un coup fabuleux. Plus je le voyais comme ça, plus je disais à Jo que ça allait tourner. Mais ça n’est jamais arrivé. » Pour sa part, « JWT » a donné tout ce qu’il avait dans le ventre. « Autant j’avais trouvé son attitude sur le match de Harrison assez moyenne, autant, là, il n’a jamais baissé la garde, dit Forget. Je l’ai trouvé hyper vaillant. Mais Isner m’a bluffé. Chaque fois qu’il évoluait sur le fil du rasoir, ça a basculé de son côté. » De quoi apporter de l’eau au moulin du capitaine français. Depuis des années, il martèle à ses joueurs le mêmeconstat : « Progressez individuellement, l’équipe n’en sera que plus forte. » Tous les joueurs français présentent des lacunes. Le week-end monégasque l’a confirmé : malgré le succès marketing des « Nouveaux Mousquetaires », l’équipe de France n’a pas encore la stature pour décrocher le saladier d’argent.

LA TERRE BATTUE ÉTAIT-ELLE

LA SURFACE ADÉQUATE ?

Oui et non. À l’heure d’affronter cette équipe américaine ( Fish, Isner, les Bryan – tous des cadors sur dur), n’importe quel capitaine au monde opterait pour l’ocre. Y compris Jim Courier ! « Le choix le plus logique, a-t-il répété après le succès des siens. Mais il se trouve que notre double et John adorent évoluer sur cette surface. » Dubitatif dans un premier temps, Forget voulait avant tout éviter un choix précipité. Il laissa donc à ses joueurs le soin de se réunir (dès le dimanche soir de Vancouver) puis de consulter les absents, Richard Gasquet et Gilles Simon. Résultat du sondage ? Un plébiscite pour la terre (six votes sur six). « En plus, quand je vois le match de John et de Jo, je ne vois pas un match de terriens, je vois un grand match de tennis, dit Forget. La problématique qu’isner a posée à Jo aurait été strictement la même sur un Greenset lent. Où s’est fait la différence ? Sur la capacité d’isner à être plus opportuniste sur ses jeux de retour. Ce serait faire fausse route que de critiquer le choix de la terre battue. » Avant de se prononcer, le capitaine poussa le bouchon du doute si loin qu’il posa même à ses gars une question subsidiaire : « Et que fait-on en cas de forfait de Gaël ? Ils m’ont donné exactement la même réponse ! Si j’ai douté un temps, c’est parce que je ne croyais pas que ce choix était aussi flagrant dans leur esprit. » Sauf que Tsonga, hier, contredisait cette version : « Si on avait su que Gaël ne serait pas là, on serait peutêtre partis sur une autre surface. » Le résultat final a en tout cas confirmé les craintes de Forget, affichées dans L’équipe du 14 février dernier : « Ce n’est jamais bon de choisir une surface uniquement pour pénaliser l’adversaire. » La synthèse de Brad Gilbert appuyait encore plus là où ça fait mal : « C’est une grande chance pour les États-unis que Jo et les Français ne soient pas à leur meilleur sur terre battue et qu’ils aient sous-estimé le potentiel d’isner sur cette surface. »

L’ABSENCE DE GAËL MONFILS

A-T-ELLE PESÉ LOURD DANS LA BALANCE ?

Sûrement. Mêmes’il est impossible de réécrire l’histoire, Monfils aurait sans doute fait peser une tout autre menace sur Isner que Gilles Simon l’a fait vendredi. « Quand il se sent bien, je suis persuadé que Gaël possède les armes pour battre ou au minimum emmerder Isner sur terre battue, explique Forget. Il frappe fort, il retourne tout parce qu’il est adroit et il ramène un nombre incalculable de balles. Mais j’ai dû faire sans lui commej’avais dû faire sans Jo pour la finale de Belgrade. » Déjà forfait à Cordoue, en septembre dernier, présent mais laissé sur le banc à cause d’une blessure au genou à Vancouver, en février, « la Monf » n’est pas arrivé diminué à MonteCarlo. Il s’est blessé le dimanche matin en frappant un smash. Non pas au genou mais à l’aine (déchirure, dix jours d’arrêt). Comment prévoir pareille tuile ?… Depuis sa formidable campagne 2010, Monfils est devenu un joueur pivot en équipe de France. Son investissement n’est plus remis en cause. Ses résultats en Coupe Davis depuis deux saisons valident sa sélection. Restent ses incessants problèmes physiques… « J’aimerais que Gaël fasse évoluer sa carrière vers plus de sérénité, glisse Forget. Pour qu’il montre son potentiel de manière continue. Oui, j’ai des regrets qu’il n’ait pas été avec nous ce week-end… Quand les Serbes gagnent, tous les meilleurs sont là. Pareil pour les Espagnols. Nous, on a souvent dû jouer une rencontre en devant composer avec des forfaits. C’est dommage. »

PARTIR À QUATRE ÉTAIT-IL UNE ERREUR STRATÉGIQUE ?

Peut-être… Mais rien ne prouve qu’avec deux jours de préparation supplémentaire Gilles Simon se serait montré capable de dominer John Isner vendredi. Surtout ce John Isner-là… « Oui, j’ai pris un risque en venant à quatre, admet Forget. Et je l’assume. Maintenant, Gilles aurait-il été capable de gagner avec deux ou trois entraînements de plus ? Franchement, je ne le crois pas. Il a fait ce qu’il a pu ce jourlà contre ce joueur-là. » Cependant, hier, Tsonga regrettait qu’il n’ait pas pu le fatiguer plus longtemps : « Si Gilles avait pu gagner un set vendredi, le peu qu’il manquait pour faire la différence, on l’aurait peut-être eu… » La question d’un éventuel rappel de Richard Gasquet ne se pose tout simplement pas. Blessé au coude droit, s’estimant incapable de servir, le Biterrois a déclaré forfait par téléphone pour ce quart de finale. « Ma discussion avec lui a duré quarante-cinq secondes, racontait Forget en début de semaine. Il n’a donc jamais été question que je le sélectionne. » Privée de ses deux meilleurs spécialistes de terre battue ( Monfils, Gasquet), confrontée deux jours durant à un ultra-terrestre de 2,06 m, l’équipe de France a fini le nez dans la poussière. C’est infiniment triste mais loin d’être illogique.



Nothing too interesting. Forget said Jo played his heart out, that he's sorry that Gael can't be there... yes, giving credits to all his favorite boys, and the only thing he could say about Gilles is that it couldn't have made a difference if Gilles had 2 more days of preparation. Typical, only the headboys deserve praises, even the one who didn't come. And the substitute? who cares.

I must say what Tsonga said take the cake, I highlighted that part, he said something like if Gilles had been able to make 1 more set to tire out Isner, it could have made a difference (for his match). Wow, classy leader Jo is, so its Gilles' fault now that Jo lost his match? that he didn't tired Isner enough 2 days ago for the mighty Jo to slay? What a leader, can't even take on his own loss without blaming others. :rolleyes: Sorry, I had enough of Jo, he has no class, 2010 AO QF when Nole was leading him 2-1 sets and got really sick and had to puke and consequently lost the next 2 sets to Jo, and when Jo was interviewed, the interviewer asked when he noticed Nole was sick, and Jo said 3 years ago (essentially implying that Nole was faking it). Since then, I lost a lot of respect for Jo. And today, I think I lost whatever respect I have left for him. Rant over.

GilleSimonAddict
04-09-2012, 09:07 AM
Ugh. Just so disgusting the way Gilles' so-called friends treat him. They really don't deserve his friendship. Yes Gilles, thank you for coming on such short notice with your soar back and filling in for the always injured Gael and the cowardly Gasquet. You're reward, blame for the loss to USA. It wouldn't have mattered who was playing against Isner the way he was playing anyway. Neither Gael nor Gasquet's play style would've done anything to disturb him. If I were Gilles, i'd tell them all to go take a flying f#uck. He should've spent this weekend tending to his back and playing with Timothée and let France still lose on their own.

The picture of Gilles consoling Tsonga with a hug after the loss just really made me angry because I know that if it were the other way around and it had been Gilles who lost, there would be no consoling him but rather anger and disgust. He's a better person than all of them.

Like I said in my first post on this site, Good riddance Guy.

Gillouthe best
04-09-2012, 10:01 AM
I like Jo, but :rolleyes:, blaming Gillou for not being able to take a set off John. C'mon, Jo didn't have a chance in all the match, Isner seemed in control, Jo break was unexpected, with a DF from Isner. I also found funny that while Jo, Mika and Benny were all so sad for Guy leaving the team, Gilles seemed to don't care much;)

mike s.
04-09-2012, 04:41 PM
It seems like so many in the French tennis establishment value style over substance. My concern is it isn't just Guy that always talks poorly about Gilles' game, it's so many of the former and current players, so it could be the same old stuff with the new captain. It seems it's in the French tennis culture that it's better to lose playing a "beautiful" way than it is to win playing your own style. Gilles will never be respected which is a shame because I think many other country's federations would respect how much he's gotten out of his career so far. I'm so glad Gilles didn't try to cry fake tears, good riddance.

lalaland
04-09-2012, 06:29 PM
The picture of Gilles consoling Tsonga with a hug after the loss just really made me angry because I know that if it were the other way around and it had been Gilles who lost, there would be no consoling him but rather anger and disgust. He's a better person than all of them.


I felt the same way now about that pic, Gilles consoling his friend only to find out later that his "friend" just stabbed him at his back.


It seems like so many in the French tennis establishment value style over substance. My concern is it isn't just Guy that always talks poorly about Gilles' game, it's so many of the former and current players, so it could be the same old stuff with the new captain. It seems it's in the French tennis culture that it's better to lose playing a "beautiful" way than it is to win playing your own style. Gilles will never be respected which is a shame because I think many other country's federations would respect how much he's gotten out of his career so far. I'm so glad Gilles didn't try to cry fake tears, good riddance.

Let's face it, French tennis is more style over substance. Don't get me wrong, I love French tennis and their flair, but how many of them get much results? most of them are life time underachiever. I said that because I have a lot of favorite Frenchies over the years and they gave me a lot of agonies cheering for them. :(

Even when Gilles broke out in 2008 and beat the big 3, a lot of Frenchies came out and had not much good to say about his success, mainly because of Gilles' playing style. I can remember a few names that were on the papers saying not so friendly words about his game. So tbh, I don't really think a new captain for DC will be much different for Gilles, cos for 1 thing, the damage is already done by Forget and that's not reversible. If I were Gilles, I'll forget about DC altogether. I'm mad at him for being such a sucker for DC, like the last weekend. He has all the reasons in the world to say no, like the sore back that he's resting for. And the fact that he hasn't been home since going on SA trip in Feb, and could have spent some quality time home with wife and kid. Plus, it is always the thankless job of being #2, going against the big gun first, in this case, Isner who he has never beaten before, and on clay that he always said it took more time for him to adjust to the surface. And his play in DC got extra scrutinized due to his poor record, nevermind that he always had to play the top guy first. Anyway, enough of me whining about his poor decision. At the end of the day, it's his choice, all of these cons and he still can't say no to DC, then he is a bigger person than I am (which already proved that he is ;)).

Kezzi
04-09-2012, 09:41 PM
*speculation alert* I've read all these articles saying Arnaud is the favorite for the job so what would it be like if Arnaud really gets the job? I have absolutely no idea how his relation with Gilles is. I only saw them train together at Rotterdam in 2007 before I became a fan of Gilles later that year and really started paying attention to him. Does anyone have an idea? I'm just wondering now, because of all this captain talk.

lalaland
04-09-2012, 10:02 PM
I can't quite remember what Arno and Gilles' relationship. Back then in end of 2008, several players had nothing good to say about Gilles, including Seb (which is sad for me cos I love Seb). And Seb is great friend with Arno...doesn't mean that Arno has Seb's idea, but like I said, I can't remember. I do vaguely remember they were in an itw together in the French master thingy tournament at end of 2008 and has some conversation on, I'll see if I can find anything in the older thread.


PS. I found that conversation I mentioned. It's really nothing. But if you are interested, checked page 21 on The Video Thread. It's dated 12/19/08, around post 308.

Kezzi
04-09-2012, 11:32 PM
Thanks. So it's not just me who doesn't really know how they feel about each other. It never came to mind before, but it was just strange to realize that I don't know since I'm a big fan of both. I do remember now that Gilles couldn't wait to hug Arnaud after the match in the DC semi final I believe. Though that means nothing, cause at these moments everyone has a happy smiling face.
I know what you mean with Seb, I really like him too. I hate it when my faves say nothing good about another player I love :(

BlueLighthouse
04-10-2012, 08:25 AM
Arrrgggg Jo. I'm so disgusted with him saying that. Jo and his ugly faux-hawk are forever on my shitlist now.

lalaland
04-11-2012, 06:25 PM
I do remember now that Gilles couldn't wait to hug Arnaud after the match in the DC semi final I believe. Though that means nothing, cause at these moments everyone has a happy smiling face. (

Kezzi, can u tell me who are the candidates just top of your head? I'm too lazy to research to find out, but you follow this DC captain thing closely, maybe you can tell me. Thanks.




P.S.
Oh, nevermind what I asked. I just found out, from that article in the Frenchie news thread.

Clement, Pioline, Grosjean, Escude, Tulasne, Leconte.

Personally, I must say I'm not sure about Clement and Grosjean, I somehow think a different generation would be better. I hope it's not Tulasne either, I mean, it'll be awkward for him, if he chooses Gilles he'll be criticized as playing favor, or he may have to avoid choosing Gilles to distance himself, either way, not good. Leconte would be a fun choice, not sure if he's a captain material though. Escude and Pioline, I like both. I don't follow Fed Cup but it seems the Frenchie Fed Cup team has as much controversies as the DC team :p, I don't know if Escude has anything to do with that though. And he's only 36 :lol:, he retired so long ago I thought he's older. Know nothing about Pioline except I like him as a player.

Oh well, we'll see then.

Kezzi
04-11-2012, 10:06 PM
I only follow it closely, cause they mention Arnaud & Seb a lot. :p
For me Arnaud is the favorite. I'm a little bit biased, but I think he will be great as a captain. Because he knows everyone in the team and because of his amazing Davis Cup spirit. And for me he showed he can be a leader too, just by how he behaves in doubles and in the final where he took the lead from Mika.
I don't think it will be Tulasne, as you said he's with Gilles, so I consider him unavailable. He can't be both for the reason you mentioned and I think he prefers Gilles over DC. I don't really know the others, so can't say much about them. I did read the article with the positives & negatives for all, is that the one you found too? I believe they mentioned Boetsch & Roux as well.
I'm very curious to find out who it will be in the end, there's so much speculation. And if I understood it correctly, the FFT also changed the election procedure. It's not just the players who decide, some people at the FFT will discuss who they want as well. Though I couldn't tell whose opinion comes first.

lalaland
04-11-2012, 10:33 PM
I did read the article with the positives & negatives for all, is that the one you found too? I believe they mentioned Boetsch & Roux as well.
I'm very curious to find out who it will be in the end, there's so much speculation. And if I understood it correctly, the FFT also changed the election procedure. It's not just the players who decide, some people at the FFT will discuss who they want as well. Though I couldn't tell whose opinion comes first.

I was referring to this article:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11896912&postcount=498

Didn't know about the last 2 since the article didn't mention them. Tutu has said before his priority is Gilles, I'm actually quite surprised his name is still in the discussion. And I think it's a good idea to not just choose a captain based on what the players' choices. I'm sure they won't admit but certain players have more say than others, might as well just ask the 3 who they want if you know what I mean ;). Personally, I want Leconte, cos he's crazy so he'll turn the team upside down and it'll be really fun to see :D.

Kezzi
04-12-2012, 04:06 PM
I was referring to this: http://www.paris-normandie.fr/article/sport-a-la-une/coupe-davis-des-candidats-et-un-profil-pour-succeder-a-forget
Yeah I know what you mean, though I hope they won't exclude anyone just because it's not what the FFT wants.

mike s.
04-14-2012, 04:58 PM
His draw in Monte Carlo isn't bad. Balleret, then Youzhny, Tipsarevic, and Tsonga. It will be tough but it's manageable if he's playing well.

Gillouthe best
04-14-2012, 09:41 PM
Draw:
(7) Tipsarevic vs Bye
Raonic vs Montañes
Youzhny vs Qualifier
(9) Simon vs (WC) Balleret

(13) Verdasco vs O.Rochus
Ljubicic vs Dodig
Kohlschreiber vs Qualifier
(4) Tsonga vs Bye

Good draw, he should for sure win R1, then a tough match vs Youzhny on R2, with the 2-7 H2H, but Misha hasn't played since Dubai and he won last two meetings. Then Tipsa or Raonic are doable, as well as Tsonga or Verdasco. But he will need to play his best, and one match at a time :angel:

FlameOn
04-15-2012, 02:07 AM
Gilles :awww:. I only just read all that DC rubbish. Gilles has a loyal fanbase and a beautiful family, honestly approval from his peers would be good but he doesn't need it so badly.

That said it's unlikely he'll have an amazing clay season sadly. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong though.

First up is local wildcard Benjamin Balleret in Monte Carlo. Then Youzhny or Qualifier.

Gillouthe best
04-15-2012, 04:04 PM
Comfortable win for Gilles vs Balleret, 6-3 6-2. Still, will need to improve his service numbers, today he served at 42%, tough he won 77% points with the second serve. Converted 4/10 BP, and saved 1/2. Next up Youzhny or Qualifier, Allez Gilles ;)

misty1
04-15-2012, 04:27 PM
will definatey need to serve better but an easy win so im happy

mike s.
04-15-2012, 04:34 PM
Congrats Gilles! Tough to know how Youzhny will be next round because he hasn't played.

Gilloulou
04-15-2012, 05:14 PM
nice start, terrific draw and a possible chance to slap Jo's fat arse

FlameOn
04-16-2012, 01:12 AM
:bigclap: Onto R2.

misty1
04-16-2012, 01:23 AM
nice start, terrific draw and a possible chance to slap Jo's fat arse

im counting on kohli taking out jo.

FlameOn
04-16-2012, 01:41 AM
I still like Jo :sobbing:. I think he's hot and I like his game. Can't help it :p.

mike s.
04-16-2012, 05:05 PM
I still like Jo :sobbing:. I think he's hot and I like his game. Can't help it :p.

I can't really hate on Jo either even though he shouldn't have said it. I think in the heat of the moment he was probably just disappointed. Gilles has said some things he probably shouldn't have in the past too :p

mike s.
04-16-2012, 06:07 PM
Really strange schedule for Gilles. He played on Sunday and now won't play again until Wednesday. Hopefully he keeps his rhythm.

GilleSimonAddict
04-16-2012, 07:44 PM
I can't really hate on Jo either even though he shouldn't have said it. I think in the heat of the moment he was probably just disappointed. Gilles has said some things he probably shouldn't have in the past too :p

I don't know. I kinda get the feeling from Jo that he is pretty full of himself and probably tends to think that very little is ever his fault. He can be kind of a big :baby: about things on and off the court at times.

Really strange schedule for Gilles. He played on Sunday and now won't play again until Wednesday. Hopefully he keeps his rhythm.

I was so pissed :fiery: that they had him playing on Sunday because no tv (at least where i'm at) or internet coverage started until today and so I had to watch the scoreboard. How do they expect me to get by. Hello, i'm a Gilles Simon addict and I need my fix already! :hysteric:

lalaland
04-16-2012, 08:21 PM
I was so pissed :fiery: that they had him playing on Sunday because no tv (at least where i'm at) or internet coverage started until today and so I had to watch the scoreboard. How do they expect me to get by. Hello, i'm a Gilles Simon addict and I need my fix already! :hysteric:

:lol:
I was a bit annoyed too. But then I didn't bother to get up early just to see the SB, so it was okay.

I always thought they stuck players they don't care much to play on sunday :p in those 1000 events. But maybe not in MC, since they put their only MC representative on court against the closest thing to a hometown player, Gilles being from Nice.

But this schedule really sucks for him, had to wait 3 days to play the next match.

Gillouthe best
04-17-2012, 04:35 PM
He will play Gil on R2, who is defending QF points. Allez Gilles!

mike s.
04-17-2012, 05:42 PM
Gil must like it here so it will be tough but it's definitely a winnable match. Good luck Gilles!

lalaland
04-17-2012, 07:00 PM
Wed OOP:
Court Central:
starts 10:30am

Simon vs Gil

Allez Gilles!

lalaland
04-18-2012, 10:50 AM
Easy win for Gilles, 6-3 6-0 in 63 mins, got broken at 1st service game as usual, but cruised on after that, low 1st serve %, what's new. Good luck next round. Allez.

mike s.
04-18-2012, 10:55 AM
It was a solid match for Gilles but the same things that will hurt him against the top players still surfaced here, the slow start and the poor first serve percentage. Hopefully he warms up quickly and serves a little better in the next match.

Gilloulou
04-18-2012, 11:02 AM
maybe that's the secret, serving at 42%... on with the plan to go win his biggest tournament so far! :]

sammy01
04-18-2012, 11:25 AM
watched his match, got better as it went on. hit some nice forehands in the 2nd set and surprisingly good touch. needs to get more 1st serves in. the next match is certainly winnable.

if he makes qtrs i'd be more than happy

misty1
04-18-2012, 12:52 PM
good finish but, again poor serving and bad start

lalaland
04-18-2012, 06:34 PM
I was just checking the scoreboard and see that Gilles was playing double with Roger-Vasselin, didn't realized that he entered double. But they lost to Cilic/Melo 7-6 6-4.

lalaland
04-18-2012, 06:42 PM
Thurs OOP:

Court Des Princes
2nd match not before noon:
Tipsarevic Vs Simon

Allez Gilles.

Gillouthe best
04-18-2012, 06:43 PM
He will play Tipsarevic on R3, Tipsy is playing good stuff lately. Allez Gilles!

mike s.
04-18-2012, 09:24 PM
I was just checking the scoreboard and see that Gilles was playing double with Roger-Vasselin, didn't realized that he entered double. But they lost to Cilic/Melo 7-6 6-4.

Unless I'm crazy I don't think he was in the doubles draw initially.

ETA: Just looked and they were alternates so they weren't in the original draw.

mike s.
04-18-2012, 09:27 PM
He will play Tipsarevic on R3, Tipsy is playing good stuff lately. Allez Gilles!

It will be tough but it's an ok match-up for Gilles based on what I've seen in their previous matches. Hopefully he can do it and put those awful clay performances earlier this year completely behind him.

lalaland
04-18-2012, 10:09 PM
Unless I'm crazy I don't think he was in the doubles draw initially.

ETA: Just looked and they were alternates so they weren't in the original draw.

I also checked the double draw when they came out and didn't see them, I guess they got added on later. I wonder why he didn't partner with Chardy, he seems only to be able to win double when he partners with Jeremy. But he often partner with Roger-Vasselin though, maybe Ed is his default partner.

It will be tough but it's an ok match-up for Gilles based on what I've seen in their previous matches. Hopefully he can do it and put those awful clay performances earlier this year completely behind him.

H2H favors Gilles, but Gilles never played Tipsy on clay, nor did he ever play the Top 10 Tipsy, so this could be a very different match, but still, he should have his chance. I don't want to jinx him :scared: but I have high hope. He should aim for 12th seed at RG. It's a very difficult task since he pretty much has to out-perform Monfils and Almagro on clay to get to 12th. Still, there should be at least a goal for the clay season, so I'll say aiming at the 12th seeding is an attainable goal even if it's very difficult.

sammy01
04-19-2012, 12:53 AM
brit player colin fleming is out for 6 weeks and he pulled out of doubles in the morning with ross hutchins, so i assume gilles played as the alt

FlameOn
04-19-2012, 02:39 AM
Best of luck VS Tipsy! :bigclap:

misty1
04-19-2012, 01:59 PM
this is a really long service game

7 break points faced and saved

misty1
04-19-2012, 02:02 PM
huge hold

3-0

FlameOn
04-19-2012, 02:21 PM
6-0 first set VS Tipsy :bigclap:

misty1
04-19-2012, 02:33 PM
nicely done, keep rolling gilles

lalaland
04-19-2012, 03:58 PM
He won! He played well, like all 3 sets (even the 2nd that he lost), I'm impressed, patient with a good dose of aggression. Great Job Gilles. And he's throwing kisses at the end, I know who's standing at that balcony receiving that kiss.

Good stat: W/UE Gilles:32/23 Janko:32/37 First serve is 51%, well, that's an improvement.

Good luck next round against Jo.

mike s.
04-19-2012, 04:03 PM
Gilles played so well! I think this was his best match of the year and in front of his home crowd. Now beat Tsonga and shut up the French tennis establishment :devil:

GilleSimonAddict
04-19-2012, 04:11 PM
I know who's standing at that balcony receiving that kiss.

Well, I didn't want to brag about it tee hee. :inlove:


Anyway, It was a good performance from Gilles. He trapped another victim in his web and devoured them slowly and methodically. You almost feel sorry for his opponents watching them struggle and fight futilely. Almost :p Simon pretty much owns the Serbs with the exception of Novak. Troicki hasn't ever even one a set off of him let alone a match and Tipsy has never beaten him either.

Hopefully he will humble Tsonga next.

sammy01
04-19-2012, 04:22 PM
he played well moved the ball well and looked hot, so on all accounts i'm happy.

would love him to beat tsonga.

really wish he hadn't lost early at the oz open, would love to see gilles sneak back into the top 10

Silver.
04-19-2012, 05:21 PM
Fab job Gilles! Unfortunately couldn't watch as skysports was playing up :sadface:

Good luck against Jo! Kick his butt. :angel:

misty1
04-19-2012, 05:36 PM
great win today

good luck tommorrow now

lalaland
04-19-2012, 05:50 PM
For sure it's his best match of the year. Control aggression with great touch, and he constructs points so well. Although I must laugh at him in the second set when he got frustrated because Tipsy suddenly played like a beast. But overall, he has really good attitude and played with a lot of determination at the third set and didn't choke serving it. What an encouraging match. Now against Jo... I have a theory about him playing Jo, mainly that he has an inferior complex when it comes to Jo, meaning like even if he knows he can beat Jo, he still lost his confident when he has his chance. Well, that's just what I think. Hopefully, he'll do better tomorrow. The only time he beat Jo was on clay. Although ppl say Jo is awful on clay, but he got by and still beat a good claycourter today. But of course I didn't see the match so it could just be Nando being Nando and lost. Either way, Jo is always tough for Gilles, and Gilles seems to have hard time beating any of his countryman. So good luck in QF Gilles.

Gillouthe best
04-19-2012, 06:03 PM
Allez Gilles vs Tsonga, good time to shut his mouth !

lalaland
04-19-2012, 07:34 PM
Playing a tournament close to home has one good thing, they bother to post his interviews on the website ;)

Here's his Round 1 itw:

Q. In the first set you had a point for a double break against you. How can you explain that?
GILLES SIMON: Well, I was ready to play here. I had played a good match against Harrison in Davis Cup, although it was a dead rubber. But in the beginning of that match, I made three unforced errors with my forehand. That's why it was not a very good start.
But I really was eager to play. I was feeling in good shape after my last matches here. The conditions today were a lot tougher because it was cold and physically it took me some time before I could get started.
In the end, I believe this was a good match.

Q. It was a better match than when you played him as a junior?
GILLES SIMON: Yes. We both have progressed since that time. He has a solid game and he has a very good first serve, so I knew I would have to be careful. Maybe I tried to do too much in the beginning. After that, I was playing better.
As I said, it was cold and it took me some time before I could find my rhythm.

Q. What did you do after Davis Cup here?
GILLES SIMON: I spent three days in Nice and then I came over here to practice. I really felt I was ready, although yesterday we couldn't play because of the rain.

Q. Was Davis Cup a good preparation for this tournament in spite of the disappointment?
GILLES SIMON: Well, after Davis Cup I usually play well. It helps me. Like I played well in Stuttgart after Hamburg. I also won the tournament in Metz after playing Davis Cup in Lyon. It's because when we play Davis Cup, we have a full 10 days of practice. It's always a good thing to start the clay court season because we're always struggling to be ready on time.


Round 2 itw:

Q. Apart from those two games, maybe being difficult to wake up, it was a very good match.
GILLES SIMON: Yes. I played very well. The conditions as they were today suit me well also. They are not too fast. The ball doesn't bounce too high. So I never feel I'm outrun, and I can play very long rallies. But playing at 10:30 is tough for me. It's difficult to wake up in the mornings (smiling). Also on clay, it takes longer before you can find your rhythm.

Q. What went so well today? Did you have a better feeling on the court or are you better physically?
GILLES SIMON: Well, as I said, I was covering the court a lot better. The opponent in that case has no solutions. This is what I have to do: run as much as I can, but also show that I can be aggressive so that the opponent knows he can't just play slowly and relaxed because then I can become dangerous.

Q. What about your serve?
GILLES SIMON: I have trouble with my serve these days. I know I can serve a lot better. But, anyway, it was better today than it was my first round match. I'm trying hard, but I just somehow can't serve properly right now.

Q. Last time you won a match like this, you won the tournament. Is that a good omen?
GILLES SIMON: Yes. But this is a typical clay court match. On fast surfaces you can have some luck on one or two serves, whereas here you can be better than your opponent, but if the rallies take place from the baseline, you can have these types of scores. But today I was more solid than he was. Tomorrow will be a different match.

Q. Who is going to win in the match between your opponents?
GILLES SIMON: Maybe Tipsarevic because he improved a lot on these type of matches that he can win. He's become much more consistent now. There's a long time he hasn't lost these type of matches.

Q. Who would you prefer?
GILLES SIMON: I have no favorite opponent for the next match. I just hope that I will be able to feel as good as I did today.
I think I would prefer to play Montañes if I'm playing well because Tipsarevic can be extremely dangerous. When he starts hitting hard, sometimes everything goes in and it's tough. He's not only a defensive player, but he can be very dangerous especially once he's really into the match. Montañes is a different player. He's a typical Spaniard and knows how to be extremely patient. Tipsarevic is not a defensive player, he's an attacker. There's no doubt about that. He also has a very good serve, which is a pain.

Q. Did Davis Cup on clay help you feel more comfortable?
GILLES SIMON: Well, it did help. But the important thing for me, as I always say, is I need to feel good physically. When I feel good, as I did today, then I am able to go from defensive play to aggressive play very quickly, and then it is tough for my opponent to find a way of outrunning me. If I'm not able to run, then my opponent becomes more confident and it's not the same. So, of course, this preparation helped me. But the main thing is I feel good now with my game, and physically.

Q. We've been talking a lot about being 27 years old lately. How many years do you intend to keep playing?
GILLES SIMON: I think nobody is calculating a given number of years that they will play. The only thing I can say is that I don't feel as good as I was when I was 24. Before 24 I had no injuries. It was tougher after that. But I know I can improve a lot on my game still and that I have plenty of things I can do on the court. So for the time being, I'm not giving myself any deadline.

Q. Would you like to play the quarterfinals here? It would be your first on clay.
GILLES SIMON: I don't think people care because they only remember the one who wins the tournament. But personally I would be pleased to be able to play a quarterfinal on this surface. I might have a chance to make it tomorrow.

Q. Are you thinking about a possible quarterfinal against Jo?
GILLES SIMON: I take things match by match, and tomorrow will be tough. Of course, I've seen the draw. I know what comes after that. I'm not thinking about it. Anyway, if I want to be in the quarterfinals, it's not because of Jo, it's because I want to play my first quarterfinal on clay.

sammy01
04-19-2012, 07:57 PM
For sure it's his best match of the year. Control aggression with great touch, and he constructs points so well. Although I must laugh at him in the second set when he got frustrated because Tipsy suddenly played like a beast. But overall, he has really good attitude and played with a lot of determination at the third set and didn't choke serving it. What an encouraging match. Now against Jo... I have a theory about him playing Jo, mainly that he has an inferior complex when it comes to Jo, meaning like even if he knows he can beat Jo, he still lost his confident when he has his chance. Well, that's just what I think. Hopefully, he'll do better tomorrow. The only time he beat Jo was on clay. Although ppl say Jo is awful on clay, but he got by and still beat a good claycourter today. But of course I didn't see the match so it could just be Nando being Nando and lost. Either way, Jo is always tough for Gilles, and Gilles seems to have hard time beating any of his countryman. So good luck in QF Gilles.

gilles is in love with jo, hard to beat someone when you have feelings for them lol

lalaland
04-19-2012, 08:13 PM
gilles is in love with jo

Is that right? Gael is in love with Gilles, he calls Gilles his chowchow (or sth like that), and Jo is in love with Gael. Wow, what a messy Frenchie triangle there :lol:, and it's all Gilles fault, as usual :p.