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Buenos Aires R1: Nishikori def. Ferrero 7-5, 3-6, 6-2

misty1
02-21-2012, 01:25 AM
this match was a mess, neither one could hold serve in the first set

its never easy to play juan on clay though so good win for kei

Voo de Mar
02-21-2012, 01:32 AM
It's nice that Nishikori chose Buenos Aires and Acapulco over Memphis and Delray Beach. I think his tremendous high-bouncing topspin forehand may do some damage. Experience he's going to get in South America should pay dividends at the European clay-court season.

Ferrero currently struggles with the biggest crisis in his career, perhaps his body is exploited (not too many active guys can compare to him in terms of matches and tournaments played).

VolandriFan
02-21-2012, 01:34 AM
Disappointing. Juanqui should be beating Nishikori on clay at this stage. I'm a little afraid he might be winding down for good this time.

Johnny Groove
02-21-2012, 01:34 AM
Great win for Kei, who's clay resume needed a good dusting up.

leng jai
02-21-2012, 01:38 AM
Didn't watch the match but its a good win for Kei on paper. I haven't seen Ferrero play in ages.

Ajde.

KaiserT
02-21-2012, 01:39 AM
Ferrero is done.

Kei nicely gifted him a set though.

TheBaker
02-21-2012, 02:55 AM
JCF just went away in the third. Couldn't hold serve to save his life.

Poetik
02-21-2012, 02:58 AM
the best Kei surface

Chase Visa
02-21-2012, 03:13 AM
Great win by Air Kei.

Pirata.
02-21-2012, 04:19 AM
Can't be happy for Kei at the moment, too sad for Juanqui :sad:

finishingmove
02-21-2012, 04:37 AM
Ajde.

kiriri***
02-21-2012, 04:43 AM
Happy for Kei:D
JCF:sad:

TennisGrandSlam
02-21-2012, 04:51 AM
錦織圭 is well done, but too bad for Mosquito.

leng jai
02-21-2012, 04:54 AM
Ajde.

Obo.

Naudio Spanlatine
02-21-2012, 05:01 AM
bittersweet for me.

yesh222
02-21-2012, 05:33 AM
Nice rhyme in the OP.

MuzzahLovah
02-21-2012, 05:54 AM
Good win for Kei over the real Roland Garros Champion.

FiBeR
02-21-2012, 06:10 AM
great match to watch, easy on the eyes.
Loads of amazing points.

Im loving every second of this ATP Copa Claro :D

Also.. Kei is such a nice guy! He is very friendly

Evitman
02-21-2012, 06:27 AM
Just one or two years ago, Ferrero was still the undisputed king of the South American clay swing.

Jimnik
02-21-2012, 06:33 AM
Good win for Nishi. Always annoying when my two favourites meet 1st round.

Hopefully this result won't get JCF down. No shame losing to an in-form top 20 opponent.

cmoss
02-21-2012, 06:34 AM
Nishikori will reach top 10 soon.And he need to add more TNT into his serve.:o

Jimnik
02-21-2012, 06:38 AM
Ferrero currently struggles with the biggest crisis in his career, perhaps his body is exploited (not too many active guys can compare to him in terms of matches and tournaments played).
Losing two matches at 250 events is hardly a crisis. He's ranked #44 with no points to defend until July and the big tournaments are yet to come.

asmazif
02-21-2012, 11:13 AM
Bittersweet for me like almost everyone else here :sadface: :)

Forehander
02-21-2012, 12:47 PM
bittersweet for me.

Whose that in your avatar :O

Sombrerero loco
02-21-2012, 01:43 PM
kei :)

Voo de Mar
02-21-2012, 03:19 PM
Losing two matches at 250 events is hardly a crisis. He's ranked #44 with no points to defend until July and the big tournaments are yet to come.

I don't consider it in terms of ranking, he was a couple times ranked much more lower but every time after an injury and losing of previous year's points.

He has lost six consecutive tournament matches. Admittedly he had a similar streak two years ago but after that was the best at the South American swing. Now, with defeats to Mayer and Nishikori (well, Top 20 player but playing first ATP event in South America) his confidence must be really low, and it's tough to expect he will go far in Acapulco where the draw is even more demanding than in Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires.

Jimnik
02-21-2012, 09:24 PM
I don't consider it in terms of ranking, he was a couple times ranked much more lower but every time after an injury and losing of previous year's points.

He has lost six consecutive tournament matches. Admittedly he had a similar streak two years ago but after that was the best at the South American swing. Now, with defeats to Mayer and Nishikori (well, Top 20 player but playing first ATP event in South America) his confidence must be really low, and it's tough to expect he will go far in Acapulco where the draw is even more demanding than in Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires.
Now that Davis Cup awards ranking points you can't exclude his win. Every year is different. Just because he had a great South American run two years ago doesn't mean it's always his strongest part of the season. In fact traditionally it was one of his weaker months.

Losing to Mayer and Nishikori is nothing compared to losses he's had in the European clay swing to much lower ranked players. The only real suspicion here is that he's 32 years old when critics always question motivation. Every losing streak is hyped ten fold because of age.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-21-2012, 09:28 PM
Good for tennis.

Sunset of Age
02-21-2012, 09:29 PM
Good for Kei, not all that bad for Juanqui.

Voo de Mar
02-21-2012, 09:35 PM
Now that Davis Cup awards ranking points you can't exclude his win.

That's right but Davis Cup rubbers are different than tournament matches, in some sense favors experienced players, who were involved in so many long battles that know very well how to spread energy throughout a best of five match, besides this it's a different mind-set I guess, when you can give everything you've got knowing that the next day you will be resting, in Ferrero's case in that match against Kukushkin it was actually a matter to give everything during the weekend just in that particular rubber.

Jimnik
02-21-2012, 09:38 PM
That's right but Davis Cup rubbers are different than tournament matches, in some sense favors experienced players, who were involved in so many long battles that know very well how to spread energy throughout the match, ...
Statistics tell a different story. Davis Cup rubbers are usually won by younger more enthusiastic competitors. The older more experienced players tend to lack the motivation and energy for DC atmospheres.

Voo de Mar
02-21-2012, 09:40 PM
Statistics tell a different story. Davis Cup rubbers are usually won by younger more enthusiastic competitors. The older more experienced players tend to lack the motivation and energy for DC atmospheres.

It's a matter of mindset, I saw Ferrero's last three matches and it was a different player against Kukushkin than against Mayer and Nishikori.

Jimnik
02-21-2012, 09:43 PM
It's a matter of mindset, I saw Ferrero's last three matches and it was a different player against Kukushkin than against Mayer and Nishikori.
There were more ranking points up for grabs. I wouldn't say he was a different player but he certainly held his nerve better than Kukushkin when it mattered.

Voo de Mar
02-21-2012, 09:45 PM
Do you really think that for a former No. 1 it makes any difference whether he is in the Top 40 or Top 50? :D

Naudio Spanlatine
02-21-2012, 09:47 PM
Whose that in your avatar :O

Jana Defi:angel:

Jimnik
02-21-2012, 09:47 PM
He would have retired a long time ago if he thought a ranking of 20-50 was not worth fighting for.

Naudio Spanlatine
02-21-2012, 09:49 PM
Good for tennis.

:facepalm:

SapELee
02-21-2012, 09:59 PM
I like both players, happy for Kei and sad for Juan.

KaiserT
02-21-2012, 10:09 PM
Now that Davis Cup awards ranking points you can't exclude his win. Every year is different. Just because he had a great South American run two years ago doesn't mean it's always his strongest part of the season. In fact traditionally it was one of his weaker months.

Losing to Mayer and Nishikori is nothing compared to losses he's had in the European clay swing to much lower ranked players. The only real suspicion here is that he's 32 years old when critics always question motivation. Every losing streak is hyped ten fold because of age.

He just looks done to me..... think this will be his last year on tour, he doesn't have the physical ability to do his talents justice anymore.