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Del Potro: ' I hope that I can become better than Novak.'

GSMnadal
02-13-2012, 08:49 PM
http://www.nusport.nl/tennis/2739851/del-potro-kan-beter-worden-dan-djokovic.html


'At the Australian Open of 2010 I had the opportunity to grab the number one spot. And after that I also had little points to defend, but I got injured.'

'It was a very rough time for me. I doubted if I'd ever play tennis again, the doctors didn't know exactly what was wrong with my wrist. I sat back home, was very sad. I followed the tennis on tv and constantly thought when I saw my colleagues play: That should've been me up there.'

'My state of mind is a whole lot different now compared to what it was in 2010. I'm happy just to play tennis again. My wrist is ok, it's getting better every day. Sometimes it still hurts when it's very humid out there.'

'I'm closing in on my level of play in the past. In the future I hope to challenge the guys for world #1, but I still have a long way to go.'

'Novak is the deserving world #1, although Rafael Nadal is closer than he was in 2011. To challenge the #1 spot my game needs to improve a bit. I always need to play aggressive, that was how I was able to beat everyone, I proved that at the US Open in 2009. I just need a bit more time to make my game a 100%.'

'By losing a couple times against the top guys, I learn how to win against them. I know how to play against Novak. I lost to him at Roland Garros, but in the Davis Cup I beat him. He retired, but still. When I'm fully fit, I think and I hope that I can become better than Novak.'


Not feeling like translating the entire thing, just did the JMDP quotes.

What are your thoughts MTF, can and will he? I highly doubt it, but at least it's the right attitude from him.

Certinfy
02-13-2012, 08:51 PM
I agree. Right on Juan. :rocker2: :yeah:

Lucilla
02-13-2012, 08:54 PM
He will beat Novak again in the Davis Cup. :yeah:

JurajCrane
02-13-2012, 08:54 PM
I agree too, he has better serve and forehand, he has to drastically improve his movement and he will be convincing No.1 after US Open 2013.

Time Violation
02-13-2012, 08:57 PM
Confidence is a great thing, however Fed routined him at AO :)

EddieNero
02-13-2012, 08:59 PM
Del Potro will never win a slam again. He can't even take a set off poor serving Olderer.

Stronga23
02-13-2012, 09:04 PM
This is guy has all the tools remember he made the IW SF after just coming back taking sets off Djokovic and Nadal in GS last year. He was so close to beating Rafa on clay. He will be a 5-6 time GS champion by the time he hangs the racquet up.

Nixer
02-13-2012, 09:04 PM
Maybe in h2h meetings when he's peak, but not in consistency and therefore rankings.

Alex999
02-13-2012, 09:11 PM
hey DP, go for it. I doubt you can def. Nole but who knows. I'm happy that DP is positive etc. I'm still not sure he can actually do it.

rocketassist
02-13-2012, 09:12 PM
Obviously ossie was the Dutchie who wrote that.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-13-2012, 09:12 PM
Even though I'm a Delpo fan, I do not think so he can become that good. At least not that consistently. He has the game on a good day but Juan is too tall to have a an entire great year.
I don't like these comments, just a good reason for haters to attack.

samanosuke
02-13-2012, 09:14 PM
Fed's influence on Delpo is more and more visible :lol: . Keep it up Delpo

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-13-2012, 09:14 PM
He can be, but will he? Unfortunately the injury wrecked his rise to No. 1 (I'm pretty sure he would have gotten there, or at least gotten really close, if he kept up his 2009 form into 2010). He needs to believe in himself to do well, though. That's why he lost to Federer at the AO, because he thought he couldn't win the whole thing at the beginning of the Slam. I think with this attitude he will rise into the 5-8 ranking range pretty quickly and start bringing some excitement to the QF's stage of Grand Slams and big tourneys again. We might not see a Big 4 SF at RG again if Pony, Berdych, and Tsonga really take it to the Big 4 in the QF's. Exciting stuff!!

Johnny Groove
02-13-2012, 09:20 PM
First it was Federer destroying the field and Nadal stood up and said "I will chase him down." And he did, and became #1.

Then Roger got it back, then Rafa got it back again. Then it was Djokovic who stood up and said: "I will chase them both down". And so he did, and he is #1.

Now Del Potro is saying he can be better than Djokovic. He has all the tools, to me, whether he can sustain himself physically for a 4-5-6 hour match with the likes of Nadal or Djokovic remains the question.

MaxPower
02-13-2012, 09:23 PM
Delpo is 100% right. He knows how to play. He got the tools. It's all about the execution + staying healthy

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-13-2012, 09:25 PM
Pony should work on his H2H's with Murray and Djokovic this year. Those two H2H's are the most disappointing from my viewpoint as a Pony fan.

MuzzahLovah
02-13-2012, 09:26 PM
His performance against Fed casts doubt.

munZe konZa
02-13-2012, 09:26 PM
cool, I almost forgot about him

LawrenceOfTennis
02-13-2012, 09:27 PM
I would say Juan will become top 5 one day again, but doubt he can be better or get to the level he was in 09. Hope I'm wrong though.

TBkeeper
02-13-2012, 09:29 PM
I wonder who would win 2009 Del Potro or Today's Djokovic ?!?!?!?

samanosuke
02-13-2012, 09:30 PM
Delpo from second part of 2009 is one of few guys against whom I wouldn't bet in close match against this Djokovic

LawrenceOfTennis
02-13-2012, 09:34 PM
Delpo from second part of 2009 is one of few guys against whom I wouldn't bet in close match against this Djokovic

Agreed.
But. Look at the current JMDP. His movement is probably 70% of that Delpo's moevment, forehand has become a lot worse for some reason, backhand is almost as good though. Obviously he still lacks the real confidence.
Haters can laugh, but had he played in 2010, we would have seen something what we had not seen before.

samanosuke
02-13-2012, 09:37 PM
Agreed.
But. Look at the current JMDP. His movement is probably 70% of that Delpo's moevment, forehand has become a lot worse for some reason, backhand is almost as good though. Obviously he still lacks the real confidence.
Haters can laugh, but had he played in 2010, we would have seen something what we had not seen before.

Cilic fucked him . I always knew that Cilic isn't just dangerous for himself...

EddieNero
02-13-2012, 09:37 PM
Obviously Potro's got the weapons needed to bother anyone in a single match, but being better in overall is also about long-term consistency and unfortunately Juan doesn't have it AT ALL.
He's capable of peaking for one tournament in a couple of months but I can't see him staying fit and in-form at the same time for more than 2-3 events per year.

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-13-2012, 09:38 PM
It's only confidence that is lacking in Pony right now. He's always been a player that has thrived on confidence. That's why he did so great at USO 2008 after winning those four straight tournaments before it, and he also had an amazing 2009 summer heading into USO 2009. All he needs in the comeback is a "signature" win, not a retirement one like the one he had against Djokovic in Davis Cup but a real, bona fide "signature" win over one of the Top 4 guys like he had in Miami 2009 over Nadal, and he will be back and pushing for his true Top 5 spot.

samanosuke
02-13-2012, 09:40 PM
Now when he is under Fed's charge Delpo will raise

GSMnadal
02-13-2012, 09:40 PM
'It was a very rough time for me. I doubted if I'd ever play tennis again, the doctors didn't know exactly what was wrong with my wrist. I sat back home, was very sad. I followed the tennis on tv and constantly thought when I saw my colleagues play: That should've been me up there.'

'My state of mind is a whole lot different now compared to what it was in 2010. I'm happy just to play tennis again. My wrist is ok, it's getting better every day. Sometimes it still hurts when it's very humid out there.'

'I'm closing in on my level of play in the past. In the future I hope to challenge the guys for world #1, but I still have a long way to go.'

'Novak is the deserving world #1, although Rafael Nadal is closer than he was in 2011. To challenge the #1 spot my game needs to improve a bit. I always need to play aggressive, that was how I was able to beat everyone, I proved that at the US Open in 2009. I just need a bit more time to make my game a 100%.'


The rest of Del Potro's stuff

alfonsojose
02-13-2012, 09:43 PM
Del Potro is like Marat without whores and mafia around. At his peak the tennis is :eek: but non consistent enough

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-13-2012, 09:43 PM
Delpo is kind of anti-Murray IMO...no Master's victories, not even any ATP 500 victories, but already has a Grand Slam that he won in his first final against The Great One. I'd like to see him win at least one Master's this year but somehow I think he does better in Grand Slams with the day off in between matches and the best-of-five format. He's totally opposite Murray in that respect LOL.

misty1
02-13-2012, 09:46 PM
no he cant

he just isnt consistent enough

TBkeeper
02-13-2012, 09:51 PM
so if Del Potro 2009 is better than Nole 2.0
this means
Peakdenko >>>>> Nole 2.0
cause Davydenko just fucks Del Potro up ...
and you know that Djokovic isn't a match up to Davy so ...

romismak
02-13-2012, 09:58 PM
If he mean better at peak level than yes, his peak must be big serve, big FH, supreme agressive game with winners all over th ecourt, but if he mean acomplishments and overall i donīt think so, firsly he needs at least to go back to his late 09 form. But he plays different game than Nole, he got the serve and power, Novak got speed, movement, return, defense, so hard to compare them.

ossie
02-13-2012, 10:14 PM
now you finally heard it from the man himself but he was just being humble btw what he meant was im the goat and im better than the djoke

ZaZoo)
02-13-2012, 10:22 PM
Delpo's fine and all but he needs to show more then recently against Fed, that was disappointing..

Lee
02-13-2012, 10:22 PM
Good for him!

Time Violation
02-13-2012, 11:22 PM
so if Del Potro 2009 is better than Nole 2.0
this means
Peakdenko >>>>> Nole 2.0
cause Davydenko just fucks Del Potro up ...
and you know that Djokovic isn't a match up to Davy so ...

That means you have no clue what you are talking about :) Novak has comfortable winning h2h against Davy.

bouncer7
02-13-2012, 11:26 PM
This sounds like some childish story with prefix "When i grow up... "

delboy
02-13-2012, 11:27 PM
Good luck with that Delpo :haha:

FlameOn
02-13-2012, 11:29 PM
Almost as delusional as Federer saying he can get back to #1, but loving the positive attitude anyhow :yeah:.

Del Potro is only 4 majors behind, he has time to catch up :lol::yeah:.

Capuccino
02-13-2012, 11:29 PM
Delpo should be born again to be as good as Nole

moon language
02-13-2012, 11:49 PM
He needs to improve his serve and return, and develop some killer cardio. I don't think it's likely, but with his power I don't think it can be ruled out.

Also, I'm a regular critic of the myth of Del Potro that arose during his injury layoff after his US Open title run, but if there's one thing Djokovic has proven it's that good players can suddenly elevate to greatness unexpectedly, so I can't scoff at what Del Potro is saying.

TBkeeper
02-13-2012, 11:55 PM
That means you have no clue what you are talking about :) Novak has comfortable winning h2h against Davy.

Djokovic never played Peakdenko ....

EliSter
02-14-2012, 12:00 AM
now you finally heard it from the man himself but he was just being humble btw what he meant was im the goat and im better than the djoke

You wrote this didnt u? :worship:

BroTree123
02-14-2012, 12:22 AM
Overly high ambitions, but I'll take it :)

hipolymer
02-14-2012, 12:28 AM
Djokovic never played Peakdenko ....

2008 yec

Time Violation
02-14-2012, 12:31 AM
Djokovic never played Peakdenko ....

:lol:

leng jai
02-14-2012, 12:35 AM
Its not like Nole's tennis is actually that special so theoretically Pony could be better than him. Still a long shot at this stage. His selection of warcry is pretty important, YA! would definitely improve his chances.

Ajde.

lucyfur
02-14-2012, 12:39 AM
he prefers vamos!

Come on!

Yolita
02-14-2012, 12:41 AM
Go for it, Delpo! Tennis needs you. :D

SheepleBuster
02-14-2012, 12:41 AM
http://www.nusport.nl/tennis/2739851/del-potro-kan-beter-worden-dan-djokovic.html

'By losing a couple times against the top guys, I learn how to win against them. I know how to play against Novak. I lost to him at Roland Garros, but in the Davis Cup I beat him. He retired, but still. When I'm fully fit, I think and I hope that I can become better than Novak.'


Not feeling like translating the entire thing, just did the important stuff, maybe another Dutchie with nothing to do? :p

What are your thoughts MTF, can and will he? I highly doubt it, but at least it's the right attitude from him.


Poor child. He either has lost his mind or is possessed. He can't even beat Rafa anymore. He got his clock cleaned by old man Federer who couldn't even beat Isner. For god's sake. It's over Juan. You got lucky once. Get over it.

Roddickominator
02-14-2012, 01:06 AM
If I were a 6'6 guy with the biggest forehand in the world, i'd be practicing the forehand and serve all day and all night. He can beat anyone with only those 2 shots. There really is no excuse for Del Potro not to have one of the top serves on tour.

tennizen
02-14-2012, 01:10 AM
Too soon.

Branimir
02-14-2012, 01:34 AM
If Del Potro can outserve Nole on a give day allowing like let's say 1-2 breaks to Nole, yes he can beat him. It is not hard to break Nole 3-4 times per match.
But if it is a big game in semis or the final of GS... Even if he wins first two sets who knows what can happen.

KaiserT
02-14-2012, 02:04 AM
Del Potro has shown nothing to suggest he can reach anywhere near Djokovic's level consistently. Even if he improved his fitness and avoided injury, his movement will never be in the same league as Novak's, and although he possesses other weapons that are potentially huge that weakness will be exposed.

swisht4u
02-14-2012, 02:09 AM
It's a good sign, one I've been waiting for.

This will make him push himself, something that seems to have been missing.

The endurance should have been top level by now, it hasn't been and that's from not working hard enough.
The rest of his game has been so-so also, again it seems he's not working hard enough.

He's 23 now, the peak of physical ability should be about there so he should be better than he ever was fairly soon.
He has all the experience he needs.

He's been doing without much success and it's bothering him.

Many areas he can improve: serve, movement, both wings etc.



There's no better time than now, everything is lined up perfectly.

arm
02-14-2012, 02:39 AM
make it happen, then.

Slice Winner
02-14-2012, 02:58 AM
Just imagine the MTF reaction if Feds had said something like this :lol:

Ravel
02-14-2012, 03:06 AM
the key word is "can". Shows he has faith in himself.

If he said "will" then I'd say he was cocky.

Clydey
02-14-2012, 03:08 AM
Not a fucking chance.

lucho_coria
02-14-2012, 03:16 AM
Did he really say that? Itīs not the kind of comment that he usually does.

Snowwy
02-14-2012, 03:18 AM
If he isn't at least thinking this, then he needs to get his head examined. All top players should think this.

Asadinator
02-14-2012, 04:45 AM
Just imagine the MTF reaction if Feds had said something like this :lol:

or Tomic :scared:

dabeast
02-14-2012, 06:11 AM
Just imagine the MTF reaction if Feds had said something like this :lol:

hah yeah, the amount of posts would increase exponentially.

won't happen tho, he's a good enough player, obviously not on the same talent level as Safin, and he's not consistent enough week in week out. would love to see him challenge the top spot of course, we need some change up in the mens' game.

Shinoj
02-14-2012, 06:16 AM
He has to become a MENTAL GIANT more than anything else.

ballbasher101
02-14-2012, 06:17 AM
He can beat Novak alright but Nadal and Federer own him. He gave the Djoker trouble at RG last year. He can win more majors for sure but Murray, Nadal, Djokovic and Federer are here to stay so he better raise his game again. I like the Pony and I hope we see him lifting more big titles in the near future.

Naudio Spanlatine
02-14-2012, 06:20 AM
well...

dwarf shortage
02-14-2012, 06:44 AM
I like Delpo but there's no way he'll be able to consistently beat Roger Rafa and Nole. He's definitely is going to beat one of those players this year though. As much as i want it to happen he's probably not going to win a grand slam unless he gets on an unlikely roll. Just not the same player.

acionescu
02-14-2012, 07:15 AM
If only :sobbing:

Time Violation
02-14-2012, 09:04 AM
Just imagine the MTF reaction if Feds had said something like this :lol:

Fed is not 23

paseo
02-14-2012, 09:57 AM
Vamos!

Jovard
02-14-2012, 10:20 AM
:haha: He thinks he is SOOOOO good, the best player in the world and he will dominate ATP tour and will win all GS titles and sweeps floor with Nole and co :haha: :haha: His tards in MTF say the same and then this MUG gets destroyed by Mugerer :haha:
Fluke one slam wonder, thats what he is!

romismak
02-14-2012, 10:28 AM
If I were a 6'6 guy with the biggest forehand in the world, i'd be practicing the forehand and serve all day and all night. He can beat anyone with only those 2 shots. There really is no excuse for Del Potro not to have one of the top serves on tour.

Agree with this. Serve and Forehand are 2 most important shots in tennis and he should have both as major weapons with them he can take down anybody no matter surface or opponent. But his serve sucks since his comeback. In 2009 his serve was lethal, was using both - angles thanks to his height and also pace - strenght he has. Now his 1st serves barely exceed 200km/h and really it is returnable. Also his FH isnīt that good, i think there is something with his wrist or i donīt know what that he can bashing as hard on both FH in rallies and serves as he wants to, because if he wants to he has - hardest FH, maybe Soderling, Gonzalez or Monfils can hit harder - but i mean constantly hardest and his serve should be top 5-10 with those angles and pace he should be hitting aces and unreturnable serves on 1st serves all day.

Duncan
02-14-2012, 10:29 AM
I always hope he will come back but then I see how he struggles against the top guys

Will probably get back into top 5 but nothing more IMO.

ssin
02-14-2012, 11:06 AM
Nothing wrong with what he said, great spirit I like him more and more and wish him all the best.

TBkeeper
02-14-2012, 11:08 AM
2008 yec

2005,2006,2007 Davy especially, 2006 he never played against him ...

Alex999
02-14-2012, 11:14 AM
I like his confidence but it ain't gonna be easy. I think Novak def. him too many times... as much as I like DP I don't think he will ever even come close to Djokovic. Nole is simply a much better player.

Sophocles
02-14-2012, 11:17 AM
Er no. Far too 1-dimensional & he's owned by Murray ffs.

Time Violation
02-14-2012, 11:19 AM
2005,2006,2007 Davy especially, 2006 he never played against him ...

Davy was a good no. 4-5, but nothing more than that.

leng jai
02-14-2012, 11:19 AM
Er no. Far too 1-dimensional & he's owned by Murray ffs.

One dimensional doesn't matter if the dimension is epic forehand + serve.

shuhrat
02-14-2012, 11:25 AM
2005,2006,2007 Davy especially, 2006 he never played against him ...How about 2009 London where Kolya dispatched Nadal, Soderling, Federer and Del Potro in a row? After all, Novak was the only one who beat that Kolya there.


Maybe this is just my impression though, players seem to respond in different ways to Novak's success from to Fedal's. When the two were dominating the tour, it was like 'Yeah, they're Federer and Nadal. What more can we do? Move on. :shrug:' Then last year, 'Huh, someone like him can do this, why not me?' As if Fedal belong to another world but Novak is mere one of them. Accordingly they're sort of inspired by him. :p Understandably and I guess it's the right mindset for them and good for the tour as well. Then again, there's this 'the top 4 are in another league' thing to nullify the effects. :(

As for Del Potro's comment, he should think that way and rightfully.


I like his confidence but it ain't gonna be easy. I think Novak def. him too many times... as much as I like DP I don't think he will ever even come close to Djokovic. Nole is simply a much better player.
I don't think 4 times are too many? You know once upon a time H2H between Novak & Andy was 4-0 and three of them were like 6-0 6-4 / 6-1 6-0 / 6-2 6-3. You never know and don't forget Del Potro is the younger one.

Sophocles
02-14-2012, 11:39 AM
One dimensional doesn't matter if the dimension is epic forehand + serve.

What serve?

leng jai
02-14-2012, 11:42 AM
What serve?

I can see it improving a lot. It was pretty good in 09.

DemiCrayanhan
02-14-2012, 12:35 PM
he's a year younger than murray/nole, right? and personally i don't see anyone in the upcoming gen (tomic/dimitrov/raonic,etc) who can really challenge him on talent (arguable of course). so yeah, i think he's a contender. especially after rafa/nole come down from whatever planet they live on these days.

now whether he can raise his game to rafa/nole level of today...let me go get my crystal ball.

Commander Data
02-14-2012, 01:12 PM
Potro is the real deal.

Clay Death
02-14-2012, 01:17 PM
d-pot can cause problems for everybody if he can develop a more dominating serve. that should be priority #1 for him.

and priority #2 is fitness. with the easy power he has due to long levers, he can hide the suboptimality of his movement to some extent.

mystic ice cube
02-14-2012, 01:42 PM
Del Potro's USO '09 level could beat anyone, including todays Djokovic. What's to say he can't get back to that level, and better? He's still very young. I agree with Clay Death completely. Juan's number 1 priority is to work on his serve. A guy his size has the potential to serve massively & consistently. I think his fitness is.. okay, but I think there is room for improvement definitely. I don't think people should be too critical about his movement - with every negative comes a positive; Delpo can dominate rallies with his unparrelled strenght which mean's he doesn't have to be on the defensive as much as others.

I really hope Del Potro has a great 2012, tennis needs this man.

Hian-GOAT
02-14-2012, 01:46 PM
Juan's at his best > Everybody at his best.

DelPo is more talented than Nole, of course he can. But there is a huge difference between "can" and "do".

Sri
02-14-2012, 01:48 PM
Let the slow courts end and Del Pot will feast over Nadals and Noles.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-14-2012, 01:48 PM
Juan's at his best > Everybody at his best.

DelPo is more talented than Nole, of course he can. But there is a huge difference between "can" and "do".

Hian :worship:

Alex999
02-14-2012, 02:13 PM
Juan's at his best > Everybody at his best.

DelPo is more talented than Nole, of course he can. But there is a huge difference between "can" and "do".
man you are something, lol. how is DP more talented than Novak who is holding 5GS etc.? are you really that stupid?

post of the year...:worship:

Nole Rules
02-14-2012, 02:20 PM
Delpo is my second fav but i don't think he can be as good as Nole. Nole is already a legend ffs.

Macbrother
02-14-2012, 02:26 PM
Nothing wrong with his statement in fact I prefer this level of confidence, but it's been quite some time since his injury layoff now, he needs to start backing it up with some slam SF appearances.

david_williams
02-14-2012, 02:43 PM
Djokovic lost to Nikishori last year, remember? And the fact that some of the Djokovic fans are just so ARROGANT just makes me sick. Yea he's own 5 grand slams and he's no.1 in the world, so was Federer in 2009, he was no.1 and he's got 15 grand slams in his hand by then, but still, Delpo at his peak managed to grab the win. So the fact that some of his fans deny even the possibility of it happening is just RIDICULOUS. Why don't you stay f**king awake, pull your head outta your a** and try to get a real life rather than being delusional about your ALMIGHTY DJOKOVIC???


Sorry to be rude, I'm not usually like that but some ppl just makes me sick. Delpo has his chances, but he needs to really step up his game to the level he had in 2009. He's been playing quite defensively after coming back, I think 1st he hasn't been able to get his confidence back and 2nd, this is a really good option cuz he's getting it back bit by bit. The match against Federer in this year's AO was the most offensive match I've seen since his comeback so, yea, he's trying to get things running bit by bit. So we'll see.

shuhrat
02-14-2012, 02:52 PM
man you are something, lol. how is DP more talented than Novak who is holding 5GS etc.? are you really that stupid?

post of the year...:worship:
Let me see... He's 23years and 4+months old, like a certain one slam wonder was on roughly October 14th, 2010. Though the latter has played two more grand slam finals and has five masters titles back then, compared to Juan's one grand slam.

It took three full years for Novak to take his 2nd grand slam trophy, while Juan wasted a year because of a severe injury. I don't mean to be patronizing, I really don't. But we Novak fans, whose favorite player got so much flak for the same reasons (one slam wonder, loud mouth), should know better and be the first ones to give Juan a break at least till the end of 2012 US Open. :wavey:

EliSter
02-14-2012, 02:54 PM
Djokovic lost to Nikishori last year, remember? And the fact that some of the Djokovic fans are just so ARROGANT just makes me sick. Yea he's own 5 grand slams and he's no.1 in the world, so was Federer in 2009, he was no.1 and he's got 15 grand slams in his hand by then, but still, Delpo at his peak managed to grab the win. So the fact that some of his fans deny even the possibility of it happening is just RIDICULOUS. Why don't you stay f**king awake, pull your head outta your a** and try to get a real life rather than being delusional about your ALMIGHTY DJOKOVIC???


Sorry to be rude, I'm not usually like that but some ppl just makes me sick. Delpo has his chances, but he needs to really step up his game to the level he had in 2009. He's been playing quite defensively after coming back, I think 1st he hasn't been able to get his confidence back and 2nd, this is a really good option cuz he's getting it back bit by bit. The match against Federer in this year's AO was the most offensive match I've seen since his comeback so, yea, he's trying to get things running bit by bit. So we'll see.

Fed choked in USO 2009. And Joker is almighty.

luie
02-14-2012, 03:24 PM
This era. Needs del-Porto it is pathetically
WEAK with out him challenging the top 2
Players.

david_williams
02-14-2012, 03:26 PM
Fed choked in USO 2009. And Joker is almighty.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x201/donell_carey/16hot5g.gif

Sophocles
02-14-2012, 03:31 PM
Djokovic lost to Nikishori last year, remember? And the fact that some of the Djokovic fans are just so ARROGANT just makes me sick. Yea he's own 5 grand slams and he's no.1 in the world, so was Federer in 2009, he was no.1 and he's got 15 grand slams in his hand by then, but still, Delpo at his peak managed to grab the win. So the fact that some of his fans deny even the possibility of it happening is just RIDICULOUS. Why don't you stay f**king awake, pull your head outta your a** and try to get a real life rather than being delusional about your ALMIGHTY DJOKOVIC???


Sorry to be rude, I'm not usually like that but some ppl just makes me sick. Delpo has his chances, but he needs to really step up his game to the level he had in 2009. He's been playing quite defensively after coming back, I think 1st he hasn't been able to get his confidence back and 2nd, this is a really good option cuz he's getting it back bit by bit. The match against Federer in this year's AO was the most offensive match I've seen since his comeback so, yea, he's trying to get things running bit by bit. So we'll see.

Beating Djokovic - which no sane person denies Del Po can do - is not the same as becoming better than him.

david_williams
02-14-2012, 03:41 PM
That's why I say, we'll c.

duong
02-14-2012, 03:45 PM
Maybe in h2h meetings when he's peak, but not in consistency and therefore rankings.

I think the same : his body is too fragile.

He can beat anybody on top, including Nadal on clay imo, but for the rankings I don't think he can be consistent enough.

Moreover, I think that he mostly needs to improve physically to compete with those guys on modern slow courts.

duong
02-14-2012, 03:48 PM
Fed choked in USO 2009.

Fed was very near to leading two sets to null hence probably winning, but it was because it was Del Potro's first slam final and Del Po had not slept the night before and not been able to eat.

When he started playing at his best, the level was very good and Del Po was the better player.

Then yes Federer could have won but Del Potro was the better player, despite Federer being very good during that tournament.

I have many more regrets about Australian Open 2009 final against Nadal, as Federer was the better player in that match and missed too many opportunities.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-14-2012, 03:50 PM
Del Po had not slept the night before and not been able to eat

And he played fantastic.

duong
02-14-2012, 03:54 PM
Maybe this is just my impression though, players seem to respond in different ways to Novak's success from to Fedal's. When the two were dominating the tour, it was like 'Yeah, they're Federer and Nadal. What more can we do? Move on. :shrug:' Then last year, 'Huh, someone like him can do this, why not me?' As if Fedal belong to another world but Novak is mere one of them. Accordingly they're sort of inspired by him. :p Understandably and I guess it's the right mindset for them and good for the tour as well. Then again, there's this 'the top 4 are in another league' thing to nullify the effects. :(



you're right, I've also noticed it and been surprised as well, for instance in Tsonga's words or Murrays' words.

It's strange to me because some other players (Simon said that) also say that they can't see any weakness in Djoko's game contrary to Nadal's and Fed's.

But it seems that yes, you're right, some other top-players got inspired by Djokovic's success.

duong
02-14-2012, 03:58 PM
I have a question about Del Potro : I've read some people say that Del Potro's wrist might not come back as good as before his injury, hence his forehand could not go back as good as it was because his wrist was hugely important in his forehand gesture :

some people have some infos about that ?

Farenhajt
02-14-2012, 04:06 PM
A bit too tall, not so flexible, still less of an expert in movement and groundstrokes, and still not clear how resilient to injuries he generally is - possibly he's right, but I wouldn't put much money on it.

On the other hand, no promising player ever existed who didn't want to chase the #1 of the time, whoever that may have been.

duong
02-14-2012, 04:08 PM
How about 2009 London where Kolya dispatched Nadal, Soderling, Federer and Del Potro in a row? After all, Novak was the only one who beat that Kolya there.


the match between Davydenko and Djokovic in Shanghai semifinal was better than their match in WTF.

Was very close, Davydenko won it in the end and outplayed Nadal in the final.

duong
02-14-2012, 04:12 PM
For the H2H, I think that Del Potro has more the game to beat Nadal and Federer than to beat Djokovic.

Djokovic has a combination of defense and attack which is tough for Del Potro, I think : he can take benefit of Del Po's not so good movement better than Nadal imo, and he can defend his shots better than Federer.

romismak
02-14-2012, 04:21 PM
For the H2H, I think that Del Potro has more the game to beat Nadal and Federer than to beat Djokovic.

Djokovic has a combination of defense and attack which is tough for Del Potro, I think : he can take benefit of Del Po's not so good movement better than Nadal imo, and he can defend his shots better than Federer.

Agree with this, it is easier and will be easier for him to beat Roger and Rafa in next matches than Nole, Nole simply has no weakness, Nadal can be too passive and when guy like Delpo is hitting bombs all the time even best defense canīt do much, also Rafaīs topspin is less effective, because he is tall guy, plus if his serve will be back, this will hurts Nadal mostly, because he is worse returner from this group.

Federer-one-handed BH - easy can be overpowered in rallies, also his movement and deffense i think declined with age, simply this is 50-50 match-up depends on form-surface

Nole- no weakness, can play without errors, great defense, great return, strong both wings, really not much Delpo can do, besides playing his absolute best- that wonīt happen mostly, mostly you play average-or good but not your best tennis.

shuhrat
02-14-2012, 04:42 PM
the match between Davydenko and Djokovic in Shanghai semifinal was better than their match in WTF.

Was very close, Davydenko won it in the end and outplayed Nadal in the final.
I remember that match and agree with you.

you're right, I've also noticed it and been surprised as well, for instance in Tsonga's words or Murrays' words.

It's strange to me because some other players (Simon said that) also say that they can't see any weakness in Djoko's game contrary to Nadal's and Fed's.

But it seems that yes, you're right, some other top-players got inspired by Djokovic's success.
Those two most noticeably and with good reasons. Jo has a positive H2H against Nole (at one point 4-1 for Jo's favor). Andy knows Nole very well from junior days and as once a very close friend, so isn't likely to be intimidated. Also probably Nole's fun loving character doesn't help much, either. :p

Or in short, Nole needs to be on the top spot for 2-3 years and get more slams to earn such aura.

duong
02-14-2012, 04:54 PM
Those two most noticeably and with good reasons. Jo has a positive H2H against Nole (at one point 4-1 for Jo's favor). Andy knows Nole very well from junior days and as once a very close friend, so isn't likely to be intimidated. Also probably Nole's fun loving character doesn't help much, either. :p

Or in short, Nole needs to be on the top spot for 2-3 years and get more slams to earn such aura.

Yes, also I read that Lendl used Djokovic's great season last year to make Murray's defeat in last year's Aus Open final less important, and feel more confident.

Yes, I have the impression that Murray, Tsonga and now Del Potro have become more ambitious since Nole's success. And it's good for the game.

And I agree that the loving fun aspect of Djokovic takes a part in that relativized aura ;)

Seingeist
02-14-2012, 11:23 PM
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh510/tnorq/deljoke.jpg

Nole Rules
02-14-2012, 11:36 PM
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh510/tnorq/deljoke.jpg

:spit:

Houstonko
02-14-2012, 11:46 PM
Delpo injured himself winning a slam by hitting lights out. I doubt he will ever get back his level again because he knows he will risk another injury doing that.

The best Delpo could've lost in US09 as well. Fed is generous there by trading with him on the baseline when mixing with slice half the time could have beaten him. This guy can't handle slice and he is like 0-6 against Murray because of this.

adam10
02-15-2012, 12:44 AM
The ball-basher's dreaming.

fivebargate
02-15-2012, 01:01 AM
I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that if his wrist lasts this season well, then there is a decent chance that he can go on to be no.1 at some future point. The guy simply has what it takes. His movement...while not top 3 standard...is way better than people give him credit for...he has touch and power....but his biggest asset is his head. He knows how to win big matches...the ability to not panic and work a match out that Fed then Nadal and now Djokovic all had/have.

LisaKoh
02-15-2012, 12:05 PM
Having seen Djokovic and Del Potro up close, I'd say... No. This is just my opinion and it's not a knock on anybody who thinks differently. Just my observations.

Not to take anything away from Juan or anything but Djokovic is a little different, mentally. There is something about the Djoker that is very determined and very very tough; you can sense it when you see him in person. He's a supremely confident guy and he just has this self-belief. I don't see JMDP coming back at 2-4 15-30 down in a slam final the way Novak did. The Djoker is in a different class in terms of mental strength and I'd say that's what is separating him now from others in his cohort. It takes a lot of guts and chutzpah to climb to the top of the heap when there are two players who have 26 GS titles between them.

Juan is immensely gifted and when he's on, he's fantastic. But Juan is far too tall to run around with the other guys. It says a lot that he won his maiden Slam on the fast courts of the US Open because it provides him the best opportunity to use his power and end the points faster. Also, big guys don't fare too well in this sport because all the changing of direction is so hard on their limbs and their bodies. It happened to Safin and it happened to JMDP too.

duong
02-15-2012, 01:10 PM
Having seen Djokovic and Del Potro up close, I'd say... No. This is just my opinion and it's not a knock on anybody who thinks differently. Just my observations.

Not to take anything away from Juan or anything but Djokovic is a little different, mentally. There is something about the Djoker that is very determined and very very tough; you can sense it when you see him in person. He's a supremely confident guy and he just has this self-belief. I don't see JMDP coming back at 2-4 15-30 down in a slam final the way Novak did. The Djoker is in a different class in terms of mental strength and I'd say that's what is separating him now from others in his cohort. It takes a lot of guts and chutzpah to climb to the top of the heap when there are two players who have 26 GS titles between them.

Juan is immensely gifted and when he's on, he's fantastic. But Juan is far too tall to run around with the other guys. It says a lot that he won his maiden Slam on the fast courts of the US Open because it provides him the best opportunity to use his power and end the points faster. Also, big guys don't fare too well in this sport because all the changing of direction is so hard on their limbs and their bodies. It happened to Safin and it happened to JMDP too.

I agree with your points about his movement and physical condition,

not about his mental : I agree Djokovic is mentally huge, and he was already when he emerged on the scene,

but being a huge fighter is also one of Del Potro's main qualities imo : you say that from watching them live, he can look often tired during his matches, but so does Isner, and they still are great fighters.

I remember his match against Murray in US Open 2008 : he always looked tired, he looked as if he was going to collapse and Murray would outplay him but he still held the fight again and again.

He came back from one set 5-4 30-0, if I remember correctly, on Fed's serve during the second set of their US Open final.

And the way he came back fighting very hard last year after his one-year injury break looked as the one of a fighter for me as well.

ssin
02-15-2012, 01:15 PM
I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that if his wrist lasts this season well, then there is a decent chance that he can go on to be no.1 at some future point. The guy simply has what it takes. His movement...while not top 3 standard...is way better than people give him credit for...he has touch and power....but his biggest asset is his head. He knows how to win big matches...the ability to not panic and work a match out that Fed then Nadal and now Djokovic all had/have.

+1

For his size, Delpo's movement is not bad at all. It works for him, and I believe he is one of the few players that can actually turn his height into an asset. When I first saw him play, 5-6 years ago, I automatically thought - here is the next multiple slam winner, this boy is serious. I saw he had his game, execution, courage and patience. He can do damage with his serve, his forehand has always been a formidable weapon and his dh backhand is not a weakness at all. He knows hot to find those dead angles and is not afraid of the net, although a baseliner. Doesn't fear his opponents, doesn't panic and applies constant pressure. Pity he hasn't adapted his game to grass yet, he could be a new force there with his weapons. I don't think his body is weak, on the contrary. So yeah, he has what it takes. Unfortunately, sometimes players destined to become champions are stopped because of injury or some external thing, like Haas. Delpo is already a slam winner and he is still young. If fit and healthy he will do what he is supposed to do, I can see more slams for him.

LisaKoh
02-15-2012, 01:30 PM
duong, I saw him pretty much roll over for Federer and he just did not have the confidence you would expect from a Slam winner. 4-5 0-30 down is also quite different in the second set than it is in the fifth set of a Slam final. Mentally, Djoker's a little different. I don't doubt that Del Potro is exceptional and he is in the very top tier of guys who can win a slam but he has to prove that he can consistently beat the guys who are at the very top.

Clydey
02-15-2012, 02:43 PM
I can see it improving a lot. It was pretty good in 09.

Huge forehand, decent serve, solid backhand, decent return.

He isn't breaking the top 4 with those attributes, given his relatively poor movement.

Fumus
02-15-2012, 02:45 PM
Huge forehand, decent serve, solid backhand, decent return.

He isn't breaking the top 4 with those attributes, given his relatively poor movement.

huh?

He sure can. DelPo has the talent to be number 1...he can dominate on any surface.

Clydey
02-15-2012, 02:48 PM
huh?

He sure can. DelPo has the talent to be number 1...he can dominate on any surface.

Not a chance. He hasn't shown any sort of consistency. And when has he ever shown potential on grass?

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-15-2012, 02:59 PM
Not a chance. He hasn't shown any sort of consistency. And when has he ever shown potential on grass?

I agree that consistency is lacking right now, but I think it's going to get better from here. He beat all the guys he was supposed to in Australia and just couldn't put it together against Federer in the QF yet. I still think he'll get Feds at some point this year though. Too much game not to.

And one could argue that Djoker was still a "One Slam Wonder" at this same age that Delpo is at right now, WITHOUT losing a year to injury/major surgery. One could also argue that Murray had shown very little potential on clay until just last year, and look at all he accomplished on the surface last year! So who knows, Delpo's game can "click" at just the right time and place again, making him virtually unbeatable for any two-week stretch, including Wimbledon.

Clay Death
02-15-2012, 03:04 PM
i like the way d-pot is thinking. that is the right attitude and the right approach.

i wish him the very best of luck.

you have to admire his attitude. he is going to have a very bright future.

Matt01
02-15-2012, 06:07 PM
Not a chance. He hasn't shown any sort of consistency. And when has he ever shown potential on grass?


Agree about grass.
Disagree about the consistancy part.

Vida
02-15-2012, 06:09 PM
you can become better than djokovic my ass.

Seingeist
02-15-2012, 06:15 PM
you can become better than djokovic my ass.

"Jaci si kurac bre!"


OwSDm6pbZ0E

Everko
02-15-2012, 06:19 PM
There's no way. Delpo fed off a hurt Nadal in the US Open he won. He showed great courage and was one of the few to not choke vs Federer but thats the only thing he has doen in his career.

stebs
02-15-2012, 06:34 PM
Not a chance. He hasn't shown any sort of consistency. And when has he ever shown potential on grass?

He is especially vulnerable to the slice 'n' dice types on grass. It's no secret that players with variety can trouble the big man more than most. To be honest though, if he can avoid those guys then it's not much different to a hardcourt, especially in the second week. His match against Nadal this year was very close indeed, Nadal needed to be strong in breakers to get the initiative. Whilst he is most vulnerable to a certain type of player on grass, I think last year's Wimbledon showed he has potential. He was closer to beating Nadal than Murray was for example.

GSMnadal
02-15-2012, 06:48 PM
From edging out Llodra to becoming better than Djokovic. Loooooooooooong way to go, d-pot.

MIMIC
02-15-2012, 07:11 PM
Better than Djokovic in what respect? A better overall tennis player? Better at slams? I don't get it.

Clydey
02-15-2012, 08:45 PM
He is especially vulnerable to the slice 'n' dice types on grass. It's no secret that players with variety can trouble the big man more than most. To be honest though, if he can avoid those guys then it's not much different to a hardcourt, especially in the second week. His match against Nadal this year was very close indeed, Nadal needed to be strong in breakers to get the initiative. Whilst he is most vulnerable to a certain type of player on grass, I think last year's Wimbledon showed he has potential. He was closer to beating Nadal than Murray was for example.

No, he wasn't. Murray fell apart mentally, while Del Potro simply didn't have the game.

Besides, he will have more chance against Nadal on grass than against most players purely because he's going to get a more favourable bounce against Rafa. He's going to be playing a much lower ball against most other players, so he can't take big cuts at it.

duong
02-15-2012, 09:01 PM
No, he wasn't. Murray fell apart mentally, while Del Potro simply didn't have the game.


Del Potro was near from Nadal in Wimbledon indeed, nearer than Murray, but it was not the same Nadal who faced Murray, who had improved ... and yes, Murray lost confidence in his forehand and you know what happened.

But as somebody said, grass is not that different from other surfaces in the second week of Wimbledon anyway, then Del Potro can play there.

Big_Juicy
02-15-2012, 09:43 PM
Apart from the obvious (ranking and GS wins) Djokovic also leads the h2h 4-1, including winning in both their GS matches. Really, a ridiculous comparison all-together. He's got a lot work to do before he can even be mentioned in the same sentence as Djokovic.

I am actually not so surprised to hear Del Potro talk like this, because let's face it it's not like his game has backed him up. 3-10 since his return against the top 10 (2 of those wins coming against a weary Soderling), with a best showing of a quarter final in a GS. Far from good enough to be considered a serious threat.

However, unlike some here argue his LACK of consistency, I will say the opposite, he's actually been quite consistent. He's won two atp 250 titles, done very well against players outside the top 10, and for the most part advanced in a GS or Masters to a point of facing a top 10 player (where he will eventually lose). I think the point here is the expectation some have of him is unrealistic. For over a year now he's shown to be a good Top 20 player and provide consistent results to stay in this group. Apart from the one GS, he hasn't done anything to warrant the hype. I even remember ridicilous polls not too long ago where he was being compared to Murray, are you kidding me?

The most overrated player by a country mile on MTF.

arm
02-15-2012, 10:30 PM
huh?

He sure can. DelPo has the talent to be number 1...he can dominate on any surface.

So many players have the talent to be #1... having the talent is only a very smart part of the whole process.

Since when can he dominate on any surface? :scratch: He has barely shown some dominance on hard, let along clay and grass...

cobalt60
02-15-2012, 10:56 PM
hey DP, go for it. I doubt you can def. Nole but who knows. I'm happy that DP is positive etc. I'm still not sure he can actually do it.

He needs to stay physically healthy which will be hard to do given his playing style and height. But hey - like the fact he is confident. After all if he wasn't then he shouldn't even bother to step back onto a court.

Felipe Abe
02-15-2012, 11:33 PM
If Delpo was better physicaly, who knows :p

stewietennis
02-16-2012, 01:12 AM
The first part of that statement was strangely taken out of the Thread Title.

"I think and I hope that I can become better than Novak" doesn't sound as arrogant as the thread title of " I can become better than Novak"

Alex999
02-16-2012, 02:24 AM
He needs to stay physically healthy which will be hard to do given his playing style and height. But hey - like the fact he is confident. After all if he wasn't then he shouldn't even bother to step back onto a court.
well, exactly. DP does need to improve his fitness, tennis is getting crazy. I mean a poor guy had so many injuries. it's so bad, but it's sport. I really believe he can challenge the top guys.

Farenhajt
02-17-2012, 11:58 AM
The first part of that statement was strangely taken out of the Thread Title.

"I think and I hope that I can become better than Novak" doesn't sound as arrogant as the thread title of " I can become better than Novak"

If you cherish a vain hope, then you're somehow less self-delusional than if you're downright arrogant? :confused:

Clydey
02-17-2012, 01:30 PM
If you cherish a vain hope, then you're somehow less self-delusional than if you're downright arrogant? :confused:

Suggesting there's a possibility is not the same thing as asserting that it's a certainty. I'd have thought that was obvious.

tripwires
02-17-2012, 02:50 PM
Suggesting there's a possibility is not the same thing as asserting that it's a certainty. I'd have thought that was obvious.

To Farenhajt? :haha:

Sapeod
02-17-2012, 05:59 PM
This is hilarious. He can win 5 slams? No. He won't even win another one. He has had plenty of time to get back up to the top and he hasn't shown anything that can win him another slam. He can't even beat a pretty poor Federer (at the Australian Open). How is he going to beat Murray, Nadal and Djokovic if he can't beat a mediocre Federer?

Johnny Groove
02-17-2012, 06:02 PM
He still has more slams than Murray. 1>0.

I like the fact he's coming out and saying he believes in himself. Champion mentality. His issue is not of balls, but of staying healthy long enough to show how ballsy he is, USO 09.

The best part is that this week he has a chance. SF vs. Berdych, most likely F vs. Federer. Get on it, Delpo, win Rotterdam.

cobalt60
02-17-2012, 06:08 PM
Did he really say that? Itīs not the kind of comment that he usually does.
The thread title is misleading. Read the body of post#1.
:haha: He thinks he is SOOOOO good, the best player in the world and he will dominate ATP tour and will win all GS titles and sweeps floor with Nole and co :haha: :haha: His tards in MTF say the same and then this MUG gets destroyed by Mugerer :haha:
Fluke one slam wonder, thats what he is!

Actually no. His real words are more humble than that.
But I don't think he will ever be better than Djokovic.

cobalt60
02-17-2012, 06:09 PM
The first part of that statement was strangely taken out of the Thread Title.

"I think and I hope that I can become better than Novak" doesn't sound as arrogant as the thread title of " I can become better than Novak"

Seems that I should have read the whole thread before posting the prior.

Farenhajt
02-17-2012, 07:57 PM
Suggesting there's a possibility is not the same thing as asserting that it's a certainty. I'd have thought that was obvious.

"I hope and I think Federer will switch to two-handed backhand" and "Federer WILL switch to two-handed backhand" are equally worthless and self-delusional, since the basic premise is impossible for all intents and purposes.

To be applied to the present case.

GSMnadal
02-17-2012, 08:18 PM
Isn't thinking you can become better than Djokovic the same as saying you can become better than Djokovic?

It's not that it says... 'Del Potro: I will become better than Djokovic.'

No, it says... 'Del Potro: I can become better...' He says he can do it, not that he will, the title just says what Del Potro thinks. And it's obvious that he hopes it, everyone would hope to be better than the world #1, so that's not exactly newsworthy to put in a title.

Looner
02-17-2012, 08:21 PM
OMG, all the tards here demonstrating their lack of reading comprehension. I, for one, JMDP manages to do it as it will make tennis a bit more exciting. As for saying he hopes he can make it - well, he had the same number of slams as Djoko at the end of 2009 and beat Fedal to get it (no matter how people try to diminish his success). He needs consistency to challenge for number one but I've never doubted his desire and will to succeed.

Time Violation
02-19-2012, 07:45 PM
Bump... still a long way to go I guess. After he destroyed Troicki and played well against Berdy, thought he's going to better than to get breadsticked in the finals.

Halba
02-19-2012, 08:30 PM
based on what i saw, he wont

djokovic is one of the most complete players in history

Slice Winner
02-19-2012, 08:35 PM
based on what i saw, he wont

djokovic is one of the most complete players in history

Yeah his penetrating BH slice and ruthless punch volleys are a sight to behold.

Alex999
02-19-2012, 08:36 PM
based on what i saw, he wont

djokovic is one of the most complete players in history
I doubt it too. as much as I like DP I don't think he is as good as Novak. I wish him all luck, but I simply don't believe, based on their skills, that he we'll be beating Novak any time soon. DP, unfortunately is simply to inconsistent. Nole is a monster...etc.

swisht4u
02-19-2012, 08:59 PM
As much as I like Del Potro it'll be tough.

The top players have one thing in common, they are very good movers.
Del Potro can become a decent mover but doubt he'll be great in this area without some targeted practice, a lot of work that might take away from other areas of training. It's just too much IMO.

He can work on other things to mask the problem, serve and forehand come to mind.
Feeling comfortable at the net is another.

Stranger things have happened and I do like the attitude, though it seems out character for DelPo.

I don't believe he's been training as hard as he could and needs to.

Something is happening with him though, he has at least four tournaments lined up in row so it seems something lit the fire under his arse.

I'll stay tuned as his game is the kind of game I really like.

Vida
02-19-2012, 09:30 PM
Yeah his penetrating BH slice and ruthless punch volleys are a sight to behold.

you dont beat nadal 7 times in a row with that shit.

Jovard
02-19-2012, 10:31 PM
:haha:

Commander Data
02-19-2012, 11:30 PM
maybe, but not better then Fed :cool:

ModestyB
02-19-2012, 11:38 PM
It's good to be positive, but... His first goal should be improving his game, ranking, reaching slam SFs etc. Beating Djokovic is a great thing nowdays, but it's not an ultimate achievement in tennis. Becoming a better player than Novak is a long shot and he should concentrate on other things now.

BIGMARAT
02-20-2012, 03:07 AM
DP should set his eyes on Fed first, he didnt even took a set at roterdam.

tektonac
02-20-2012, 06:45 AM
you dont beat nadal 7 times in a row with that shit.

tard purger line :yeah:

zcess81
02-20-2012, 09:06 AM
I am always surprised when people talk about Del Potro as some sort of extreme example of mental fortitude, or the next GOAT. The guy had great two weeks at USO 2009, many before him managed to maintain excellent form for one or two tournaments. Even before his injury he couldn't beat Murray or Nole, he has zero masters titles...all this suggests that, even without his injury, he is a very inconsistent/limited player. No way he'd be able to retain ranking points like Fed/Rafa/Nole throughout the year, he's just too inconsistent. His game relies on precise, hard ball bashing and that is very difficult to maintain throughout the year. Margins for errors are just too low and he doesn't have plan B. If aggressive power tennis doesn't work on the day, he cannot rely on his defensive/grinding skills like Rafa, Nole, Fed, Murray.

As for Delpo's comments that he can become better than Nole? I mean, I understand why HE thinks that, and it's be wrong if he didn't think that, but if we talk about tennis skills only (i.e if we leave out mental aspects of the game), he'll never be better than Nole. Delpo will never have better movement than Nole, he'll never have better backhand than Nole, he'll never have better returns than Nole, and he'll never have better 2nd serve than Nole. Delpo has a better 1st serve and a better forehand than Nole, and that's about it. And if we include mental aspects of the game in the equation, Delpo's chances of surpassing Nole are even smaller, because what Delpo managed to do for two weeks in USO 2009, Nole has been doing for more than a year.

buzz
02-20-2012, 09:30 AM
It would not surprise me if he gets to no1 in around 2 years, but anything can happen injuries, loss of focus etc.