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USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options

mackerman
12-25-2011, 12:05 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ycn-10742013

One of the feel good stories in tennis this year has been the rise of American player Alex Bogomolov Jr. to a ranking of No. 34 in the world. While everyone who knows Bogomolov couldn't be happier for the 28-year old, a strange thing happened as Bogomolov rose in the rankings. The Russians were actively recruiting him.

In the Cold War era this might mean he was being recruited as a spy or for his knowledge of clandestine military secrets. In 2011, it means he was being recuited to play Davis Cup tennis.

Born in Moscow, Bogomolov was uprooted to Mexico and then the United States by his father Alex Sr., who is a former Soviet national tennis coach. A talented junior player, Bogomolov never could make that "breakthrough" on the ATP Tour. He toiled in the 100s and 200s for years, getting financial and coaching help from the United States Tennis Association along the way.

After it was announced earlier this month that Bogomolov Jr. would play Davis Cup in 2011, the powers to be at the USTA got upset.

I spoke with Patrick McEnroe who is in charge of player development for the USTA at the Australian Open Wildcard Playoff held last week in Atlanta, and a couple weeks after Bogomolov made his decision, McEnroe had much to say.

"He has received quite a bit of support, it's an ITF decision and at the USTA we are exploring our options," he stated. I'll leave it at that."

After saying that, he kept going.

"I certainly believe… I have no issue with Alex personally. From the USTA standpoint, he was born in Russia, he has family there, he should repay the USTA. He's actually signed something saying that and we'll see what happens."

I followed up asking if the USTA is continuing to explore options and McEnroe said, "that is correct."

Bogomolov is not the first to make a decision like this and won't be the last. Most of the time it's done for financial reasons, other times it's because it's the only option to play. Numerous tennis players from Soviet block countries became "free agents" and went to the country that offered the best deal.

In women's basketball, there's Becky Hammon. Hammon is about as "All-American" s you can get. Blonde and born in South Dakota, after Hammon was overlooked for a spot at the U.S. Olympic trials in 2008, she became a naturalized Russian citizen and played in the Olympics representing Russia. "I'm absolutely 100 percent still an American. I love our country. I love what we stand for. This is an opportunity to fulfill my dream of playing in the Olympics," said Hammon.

This is an opportunity for Bogomolov to play Davis Cup, as at the age of 28, he isn't on The radar of U.S. Davis Cup Captain Jim Courier or the USTA. "All of us are friends with Bogomolov, and I can understand why he is doing it," added Courier.

Another player, Jesse Levine was born in Canada, but now plays as an American. He won the USTA's Australian Open Wildcard Playoff and says he has no plans to play Davis Cup for Canada if they were to come calling. He also says that he hasn't signed anything saying he wouldn't.

The fact is, Bogomolov will be taking the court for Russia when they play Austria in February. Whether the USTA is actually going after Bogomolov to repay thousands and thousands of dollars, or if they are looking to send a message to other Americans looking to do the same remains to be seen.

We'll all have to wait and see.

Certinfy
12-25-2011, 12:06 AM
He doesn't owe them shit.

tommyg6
12-25-2011, 01:48 AM
Does he even speak Russian?

Johnny Groove
12-25-2011, 01:54 AM
The USTA is full of fuckwits, this is well known. Bogo must have felt disrespected by PMac or someone else, seeing as they never picked him to play DC, and probably wouldn't next year, in favor of younger players like Young or Querrey, even though Bogo is ranked higher.

In response to this:

"I certainly believe… I have no issue with Alex personally. From the USTA standpoint, he was born in Russia, he has family there, he should repay the USTA. He's actually signed something saying that and we'll see what happens."

If this is true, then it is legally binding, but if not, then fuck the USTA. Bogo should be able to play for whatever team would be happy to have him.

tommyg6
12-25-2011, 02:03 AM
The USTA is full of fuckwits, this is well known. Bogo must have felt disrespected by PMac or someone else, seeing as they never picked him to play DC, and probably wouldn't next year, in favor of younger players like Young or Querrey, even though Bogo is ranked higher.

In response to this:

"I certainly believe… I have no issue with Alex personally. From the USTA standpoint, he was born in Russia, he has family there, he should repay the USTA. He's actually signed something saying that and we'll see what happens."

If this is true, then it is legally binding, but if not, then fuck the USTA. Bogo should be able to play for whatever team would be happy to have him.

Agreed. He wasn't gonna get a sniff with the US Davis Cup team anyways. I would've done the same as Alex.

mackerman
12-25-2011, 03:33 AM
The USTA is acting like they're directly responsible for his success. He hasn't received any help from the USTA either with coaching, finances or wild cards since the beginning of 2006. As recently as July 2010, the guy was $40,000 IN DEBT. Now they're going after him? Guess the USTA has to pay for that roof on Arthur Ashe somehow, even though it's the worst kept secret in tennis that they just sit on millions upon millions of dollars :rolleyes:

Also, we're talking about a six-figure lawsuit here considering that he did get free USTA coaching for several years and a couple of main draw wild cards into the US Open. It's disgusting that they're trying to clean this guy out over taking an opportunity (Davis Cup/Olympics) that they were never going to give him in the first place.

fast_clay
12-25-2011, 04:52 AM
stick it to the man bogey

MOhero
12-25-2011, 08:15 AM
CZE, RUS, YUG, IND, BiH, ARG...:

USTA Must Repay Us!!!!!

randajad86
12-25-2011, 08:30 AM
Does he even speak Russian?
Yes, he speaks fluently Russian.

Topspindoctor
12-25-2011, 11:37 AM
Bogomolov is a mug, why does USTA have their panties in a bunch about this? You'd think they were losing Olderer or something...

PiggyGotRoasted
12-25-2011, 11:42 AM
Why do the USTA even care? For most of his career he has represented the usa, would have they cared if he was still ranked 150 in the world? If he was $40k in debt, then it could be argued that the support the USTA gave him wasnt enough and isnt what is causing his success. What would they do if James Blake suddenly decided to represent Great Britain, would they care more or less?

Snowwy
12-25-2011, 12:13 PM
He doesn't owe them shit.

Of course he does, the provided him training facilities and coaches for years. He cannoy just leave when he becomes an okay player when he has always had monetary support from the USA.

T]If this is true, then it is legally binding, but if not, then fuck the USTA. Bogo should be able to play for whatever team would be happy to have him.

You really love to complain, did you even read the article? It does not say that he cannot play for Russia, it says he must repay the USA for their help throughout the recent years.

Agreed. He wasn't gonna get a sniff with the US Davis Cup team anyways. I would've done the same as Alex.

You can easily liken this story to a story in many corporate places where you cannot jump straight to a competitor.

Bogomolov is a mug, why does USTA have their panties in a bunch about this? You'd think they were losing Olderer or something...

He is top 35, its a big deal, precedent setting really.

Why do the USTA even care? For most of his career he has represented the usa, would have they cared if he was still ranked 150 in the world? If he was $40k in debt, then it could be argued that the support the USTA gave him wasnt enough and isnt what is causing his success. What would they do if James Blake suddenly decided to represent Great Britain, would they care more or less?

How much would he have been in debt if he were given nothing? If a player is given $100k but spends $140k, does he owe nothing to the USA in that situation?

PiggyGotRoasted
12-25-2011, 01:13 PM
Of course he does, the provided him training facilities and coaches for years. He cannoy just leave when he becomes an okay player when he has always had monetary support from the USA.



You really love to complain, did you even read the article? It does not say that he cannot play for Russia, it says he must repay the USA for their help throughout the recent years.



You can easily liken this story to a story in many corporate places where you cannot jump straight to a competitor.



He is top 35, its a big deal, precedent setting really.



How much would he have been in debt if he were given nothing? If a player is given $100k but spends $140k, does he owe nothing to the USA in that situation?
However put it this way, if he was representing the USA now.. what would the USA be gaining from him? They really obviously havnt given a shit about him at all for the last x years until now he has a decent ranking and changed country to represent in the davis cup. Should Sharapova also represent the USA in that case?

Nathaliia
12-25-2011, 01:42 PM
Did they repay Czechoslovakia bringing up Lendl or Navratilova? Did they repay Yugoslavia for bringing up Seles?

No? Then stfu USTA mugs, go bellyache elsewhere, not on my computer screen please.

And yes, Bogomolov has played under USA flag for several years, represented them long enough paying debts by that. I didn't see whining when Cecil Mamiit switched to Philippines.

TheBoiledEgg
12-25-2011, 02:29 PM
Did they repay Czechoslovakia bringing up Lendl or Navratilova? Did they repay Yugoslavia for bringing up Seles?

No? Then stfu USTA mugs, go bellyache elsewhere, not on my computer screen please.

And yes, Bogomolov has played under USA flag for several years, represented them long enough paying debts by that. I didn't see whining when Cecil Mamiit switched to Philippines.

This x1000

Snowwy
12-25-2011, 02:35 PM
Did they repay Czechoslovakia bringing up Lendl or Navratilova? Did they repay Yugoslavia for bringing up Seles?

No? Then stfu USTA mugs, go bellyache elsewhere, not on my computer screen please.

And yes, Bogomolov has played under USA flag for several years, represented them long enough paying debts by that. I didn't see whining when Cecil Mamiit switched to Philippines.

This x1000

I wonder what the difference in payment given to Bogomolov and Mamiit. Would be interesting to see.

timafi
12-25-2011, 02:37 PM
the USTA has more millions than the FFT and Spanish federations combined probably and they are going after some journeyman for some peanut?
no fucking wonder they aren't winning shit.They never cared for this guy but the "help" he got and never asked him to play DC and now that he is playing well and deservedly so wants to play for a country that needs his help considering Kolya is worthless;Andreev is worthless and there is nofuckingbody else around? :rolleyes:
I hope Karma follows Roddick;Isner;Querrey;Fish and that Harrison boy and that they have a horrible year in the slams and MS no matter the surface and I hope Alex whoops their asses

abraxas21
12-25-2011, 02:43 PM
Of course he does, the provided him training facilities and coaches for years. He cannoy just leave when he becomes an okay player when he has always had monetary support from the USA.

if that's so then how comes the USTA refuses to pay any money to the Argentinian Tennis Federation over Andrea Collarini who decided to become a yank when he was 18? The argies invested thousands of dollars on that kid and when he decided to head north they were left with nothing but a thank you note from both collarini and the USTA.


double standards... double standards everywhere....

Nathaliia
12-25-2011, 02:46 PM
I wonder what the difference in payment given to Bogomolov and Mamiit. Would be interesting to see.
Bogomolov's rise has begun when he found cooperation with an Israeli coach, formerly on tour with Dudi Sela; Mamiit rise has never started.

Surely would be interesting to see it all.

abraxas21
12-25-2011, 03:04 PM
Gomez said his federation made a "huge economic effort'' with Collarini. He then sent me a copy of another letter the Argentine federation wrote to the USTA asking for compensation. Gomez said the federation knew it wouldn't get any money, that this was sent only in protest.

"This is why we are calling upon your good judgment for the USTA to consider, on the basis of these facts, a goodwill economic compensation that allows us, within our budget limitations, to continue the development of young players in a country with a situation that is on the opposite side regarding the facilities on which relies your federation.''

McEnroe said the USTA had no intention of sending money to Argentina.

so now the yanks should better make quiet with regards to bogo

Nathaliia
12-25-2011, 03:06 PM
so now the yanks should better make quiet with regards to bogo
Have they sent money to Bahamas while taking USO junior champion Ryan Sweeting?

abraxas21
12-25-2011, 03:09 PM
Have they sent money to Bahamas while taking USO junior champion Ryan Sweeting?

sweeting was a bad investment. if anything, the usta should return him back to bahamas and demand the invested money back :D

PiggyGotRoasted
12-25-2011, 03:11 PM
Typical double standards from the yanks

Henry Chinaski
12-25-2011, 03:44 PM
They care because it's Russia.

Bunch of old suits stuck in a cold war mentality.

I don't remember any fuss when Delic started playing for Bosnia.

Nixer
12-25-2011, 04:49 PM
They care because it's Russia.

Bunch of old suits stuck in a cold war mentality.

I don't remember any fuss when Delic started playing for Bosnia.

nah, I think it's more the issue of his high ranking. Majority of players switch nationality when they're really regressing from career high, it seems. Bogo is an unusual case in that sense.

tommyg6
12-25-2011, 06:24 PM
Who gives a crap about the USTA. The USTA has enough good players already as it is and they got the gall to harp on Alex, those bastards! What? Fish, Roddick, Young, Isner and all those clowns are not enough for them, huh? Alex wasn't gonna get a chance to play for the American Davis Cup team anyways. Besides even if Alex had to pay it back, he can get the Russian Federation to pay it all back for him since they're taking him. I wonder if Alex is good clubbing mates with Kolya and the gang? or if he drinks vodka like every real russian should.

Nixer
12-25-2011, 06:29 PM
Who gives a crap about the USTA. The USTA has enough good players already as it is and they got the gall to harp on Alex, those bastards! What? Fish, Roddick, Young, Isner and all those clowns are not enough for them, huh? Alex wasn't gonna get a chance to play for the American Davis Cup team anyways. Besides even if Alex had to pay it back, he can get the Russian Federation to pay it all back for him since they're taking him. I wonder if Alex is good clubbing mates with Kolya and the gang? or if he drinks vodka like every real russian should.

You're overestimating Russian Tennis Federation :lol:

tommyg6
12-25-2011, 06:33 PM
He could hide in Russia. It's not like the Americans can catch him there and make him pay, am I right?

Snowwy
12-25-2011, 08:45 PM
if that's so then how comes the USTA refuses to pay any money to the Argentinian Tennis Federation over Andrea Collarini who decided to become a yank when he was 18? The argies invested thousands of dollars on that kid and when he decided to head north they were left with nothing but a thank you note from both collarini and the USTA.


double standards... double standards everywhere....

so now the yanks should better make quiet with regards to bogo

Yes, they should here to be paying something I think. I'm not advocating double standards at all my good sir.

You're overestimating Russian Tennis Federation :lol:

Haha he will get less monetary support in Russia, one would expect.

Henry Chinaski
12-25-2011, 09:47 PM
If they want financial compensation then it should be the Russians who pay it, as with transfer fees between teams in football. It would make a lot more sense.

But you can see from the examples in this thread why that is a precedent the USTA does not want to set.

Of course if it's true that Bogey signed some sort of contract then all this is moot. Highly unfair, but moot.

tennis2tennis
12-26-2011, 11:44 AM
If the USTA has no problem welcoming defecting players they should not complain if the traffic flows in the other direction!

I can understand why they'd be pissed if they funded and played him @ DC ties THEN HE DEFECTED but at 28, he's never played at senior level in the Davis Cup....Courier has gone on the record to say: "He hasn't factored into my thoughts for what our team is and will be ...I don't really see a scenario where he would be playing for the United States."

They're affectively saying we don't want to use you but we paid for the right that no one can either!

guichard
12-26-2011, 11:54 AM
The USTA is acting like they're directly responsible for his success. He hasn't received any help from the USTA either with coaching, finances or wild cards since the beginning of 2006. As recently as July 2010, the guy was $40,000 IN DEBT. Now they're going after him? Guess the USTA has to pay for that roof on Arthur Ashe somehow, even though it's the worst kept secret in tennis that they just sit on millions upon millions of dollars :rolleyes:

Also, we're talking about a six-figure lawsuit here considering that he did get free USTA coaching for several years and a couple of main draw wild cards into the US Open. It's disgusting that they're trying to clean this guy out over taking an opportunity (Davis Cup/Olympics) that they were never going to give him in the first place.
Is it true ? do you have source of that info ?

Snowwy
12-26-2011, 01:45 PM
With this story though, how likely would it be that say I dunno, Ryan Harrison were to change countries now? (assuming he could).

The US has recently lost Carsten Ball, Amer Delic and now Alex Bogolomov. Something has to be done to keep players in the US that are currently representing the US.

Imagine if players were leaving Moldova and Serbia to become US players, the outrage would be huge.

guichard
12-26-2011, 02:50 PM
The US will never lose young promise talent(like Harrisson).

mackerman
12-26-2011, 03:18 PM
Is it true ? do you have source of that info ?

http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/6868802/tennis-how-love-lifted-alex-bogomolov-jr-game

Shortly after his son, Maddox, now 20 months old, was born, Bogomolov Jr. needed to pay off his American Express bill of about $40,000. Despite the hefty debt, he decided to hire a coach, Yoav Schab.

"You don't really make enough money for a family, to pay rent and cover expenses, on the Challenger circuit, so we just kept on swiping the AmEx," Bogomolov Jr. said. "We had some cash set aside for tennis, and so we took a big step and big risk and I hired Schabby. It was a very tough decision for Luana and I. Imagine, we have a kid, and now I'm telling Luana I need a coach."

It worked out. Bogomolov Jr. pocketed, yes, $40,000 at the Kennedy Funding Invitational Tennis Tournament in New York in July 2010 by downing fellow U.S. veteran Michael Russell, escaping from a 4-1 deficit in the third set of the final. The bill was history and Bogomolov Jr.'s ascent could truly begin.

"The fact that he was able to win that exact amount -- everything seemed to fall in place," said Goncalves, who has gone from knowing little about tennis to becoming an aficionado. "It was really emotional. To see my family and his family and friends all being there to watch that, it was a great start for the team."

Johnny Groove
12-26-2011, 04:33 PM
With this story though, how likely would it be that say I dunno, Ryan Harrison were to change countries now? (assuming he could).

The US has recently lost Carsten Ball, Amer Delic and now Alex Bogolomov. Something has to be done to keep players in the US that are currently representing the US.

Imagine if players were leaving Moldova and Serbia to become US players, the outrage would be huge.

What needs to be done is the USTA needs to remove their heads from their asses. They've been the laughingstock of the tennis world for years now.

tommyg6
12-26-2011, 04:35 PM
In my opinion, who cares if the USA loses a bunch of players, they already have enough good players.

Riosreigned
12-26-2011, 04:53 PM
This would really really be unfair to Bogomolov who had a miracle year this year. Give the guy a break he deserves it.

Al_Loves_Tennis
12-26-2011, 06:23 PM
When a national governing body decides to fund a player, is it written somewhere (in a contract, maybe) that they are to repay the governing body when they start earning enough money on their own? If not, then the money given to Bogomolov was NOT a loan, but rather a privilege that was extended to him for being a potentially elite player. If it was seen as an investment, then maybe they can call for a repayment, but without a legally binding written contract, Bogomolov is free to do as he pleases.

guichard
12-27-2011, 03:28 AM
When a national governing body decides to fund a player, is it written somewhere (in a contract, maybe) that they are to repay the governing body when they start earning enough money on their own? If not, then the money given to Bogomolov was NOT a loan, but rather a privilege that was extended to him for being a potentially elite player. If it was seen as an investment, then maybe they can call for a repayment, but without a legally binding written contract, Bogomolov is free to do as he pleases.
"I certainly believe… I have no issue with Alex personally. From the USTA standpoint, he was born in Russia, he has family there, he should repay the USTA. He's actually signed something saying that and we'll see what happens."

I followed up asking if the USTA is continuing to explore options and McEnroe said, "that is correct." http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ycn-10742013

clandis
12-27-2011, 03:47 PM
Ridiculous. He owes the USTA nothing.

guichard
12-28-2011, 04:54 PM
The USTA has billed the Russian Tennis Federation $75,000 for poaching Alex Bogomolov Jr.
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/usta-bills-russians-75k-over-defection-122811

emotion
12-28-2011, 05:02 PM
That's ridiculous, Russia should fight it. Players have switched to US plenty

Yolita
12-28-2011, 07:07 PM
I guess it all depends on the contract Bogomolov signed with the USTA. It would be grossly unfair, of course. It makes the USTA look really petty, as if it didn't have enough image problems already.

guichard
12-28-2011, 09:59 PM
I guess it all depends on the contract Bogomolov signed with the USTA. It would be grossly unfair, of course. It makes the USTA look really petty, as if it didn't have enough image problems already.
Yeah but if he signed it when he was broke and it was the only way he can get some funding to continue...

fran70
12-29-2011, 11:15 PM
US doesn`t lose anything with Bogomolov moving to play for another country as well as Russia doesn`t get any benefit with such standard of player doing it under their flag.

In anyway, all theses situations should be regulated (if they aren`t already). Under my opinion a player that was born in an specific country or played an specific number of professional tournaments shouldn`t be allowed to represent a different flag.

fran70
12-29-2011, 11:28 PM
With this story though, how likely would it be that say I dunno, Ryan Harrison were to change countries now? (assuming he could).

The US has recently lost Carsten Ball, Amer Delic and now Alex Bogolomov. Something has to be done to keep players in the US that are currently representing the US.

Imagine if players were leaving Moldova and Serbia to become US players, the outrage would be huge.

And they earned Collarini tempting him to play under the US flag when his tennis was build up with Argentine investment. All these situations should be considered too.

scoobs
12-29-2011, 11:38 PM
I think the USTA is out of order here since they are quite happy to poach players from other nations and have hugely benefited from doing so in the past. But it all depends on what sort of deals Bogomolov signed his John Hancock against, regardless of the morality - if he owes them money back by switching to Russia, then that's all there is to it.

I wish him well, though - I'm a sucker for a hard luck story and it's been nice to see him get a chance to live the dream more than ever at this stage of his career.

fran70
12-29-2011, 11:42 PM
Did they repay Czechoslovakia bringing up Lendl or Navratilova? Did they repay Yugoslavia for bringing up Seles?

No? Then stfu USTA mugs, go bellyache elsewhere, not on my computer screen please.

And yes, Bogomolov has played under USA flag for several years, represented them long enough paying debts by that. I didn't see whining when Cecil Mamiit switched to Philippines.

I have couldnt say it better :yeah:

rocketassist
12-30-2011, 03:29 AM
Did they repay Czechoslovakia bringing up Lendl or Navratilova? Did they repay Yugoslavia for bringing up Seles?

No? Then stfu USTA mugs, go bellyache elsewhere, not on my computer screen please.

And yes, Bogomolov has played under USA flag for several years, represented them long enough paying debts by that. I didn't see whining when Cecil Mamiit switched to Philippines.

This.

finishingmove
12-30-2011, 03:35 AM
He doesn't owe them shit.

this and that ^

SheepleBuster
12-30-2011, 04:23 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ycn-10742013

One of the feel good stories in tennis this year has been the rise of American player Alex Bogomolov Jr. to a ranking of No. 34 in the world. While everyone who knows Bogomolov couldn't be happier for the 28-year old, a strange thing happened as Bogomolov rose in the rankings. The Russians were actively recruiting him.

In the Cold War era this might mean he was being recruited as a spy or for his knowledge of clandestine military secrets. In 2011, it means he was being recuited to play Davis Cup tennis.

Born in Moscow, Bogomolov was uprooted to Mexico and then the United States by his father Alex Sr., who is a former Soviet national tennis coach. A talented junior player, Bogomolov never could make that "breakthrough" on the ATP Tour. He toiled in the 100s and 200s for years, getting financial and coaching help from the United States Tennis Association along the way.

After it was announced earlier this month that Bogomolov Jr. would play Davis Cup in 2011, the powers to be at the USTA got upset.

I spoke with Patrick McEnroe who is in charge of player development for the USTA at the Australian Open Wildcard Playoff held last week in Atlanta, and a couple weeks after Bogomolov made his decision, McEnroe had much to say.

"He has received quite a bit of support, it's an ITF decision and at the USTA we are exploring our options," he stated. I'll leave it at that."

After saying that, he kept going.

"I certainly believe… I have no issue with Alex personally. From the USTA standpoint, he was born in Russia, he has family there, he should repay the USTA. He's actually signed something saying that and we'll see what happens."

I followed up asking if the USTA is continuing to explore options and McEnroe said, "that is correct."

Bogomolov is not the first to make a decision like this and won't be the last. Most of the time it's done for financial reasons, other times it's because it's the only option to play. Numerous tennis players from Soviet block countries became "free agents" and went to the country that offered the best deal.

In women's basketball, there's Becky Hammon. Hammon is about as "All-American" s you can get. Blonde and born in South Dakota, after Hammon was overlooked for a spot at the U.S. Olympic trials in 2008, she became a naturalized Russian citizen and played in the Olympics representing Russia. "I'm absolutely 100 percent still an American. I love our country. I love what we stand for. This is an opportunity to fulfill my dream of playing in the Olympics," said Hammon.

This is an opportunity for Bogomolov to play Davis Cup, as at the age of 28, he isn't on The radar of U.S. Davis Cup Captain Jim Courier or the USTA. "All of us are friends with Bogomolov, and I can understand why he is doing it," added Courier.

Another player, Jesse Levine was born in Canada, but now plays as an American. He won the USTA's Australian Open Wildcard Playoff and says he has no plans to play Davis Cup for Canada if they were to come calling. He also says that he hasn't signed anything saying he wouldn't.

The fact is, Bogomolov will be taking the court for Russia when they play Austria in February. Whether the USTA is actually going after Bogomolov to repay thousands and thousands of dollars, or if they are looking to send a message to other Americans looking to do the same remains to be seen.

We'll all have to wait and see.

America ... the land of the lowest of the lows. These people make the good old Romans look like bright light bulbs. This country and the people in it are an embarrassment to the human species.

abraxas21
12-30-2011, 05:30 AM
US doesn`t lose anything with Bogomolov moving to play for another country as well as Russia doesn`t get any benefit with such standard of player doing it under their flag.

In anyway, all theses situations should be regulated (if they aren`t already). Under my opinion a player that was born in an specific country or played an specific number of professional tournaments shouldn`t be allowed to represent a different flag.

so you support collarini playing for the usa? :P

fran70
12-30-2011, 10:47 AM
so you support collarini playing for the usa? :P

Probably I didnt expressed myself properly. I don't support those sort of situations at all in any case.

Nixer
12-30-2011, 11:32 AM
US doesn`t lose anything with Bogomolov moving to play for another country as well as Russia doesn`t get any benefit with such standard of player doing it under their flag.

In anyway, all theses situations should be regulated (if they aren`t already). Under my opinion a player that was born in an specific country or played an specific number of professional tournaments shouldn`t be allowed to represent a different flag.

I wouldn't say that.. he's now No.1 ranked player in the country, with only 5 people in top-100.. should be a good asset for DC

Smoke944
12-30-2011, 11:37 PM
USTA has its priorities all wrong. No surprise, though.

abraxas21
12-31-2011, 03:57 AM
Probably I didnt expressed myself properly. I don't support those sort of situations at all in any case.

i know :) i was just being an ass

fran70
12-31-2011, 09:31 AM
I wouldn't say that.. he's now No.1 ranked player in the country, with only 5 people in top-100.. should be a good asset for DC

Ranking means nothing in this case. I would even pick Youznhy, Davydenko or Tursunov over Bogomolov to team up the Russian team.

Nixer
12-31-2011, 11:16 AM
Ranking means nothing in this case. I would even pick Youznhy, Davydenko or Tursunov over Bogomolov to team up the Russian team.

that's 3, I would put Bogomolov in over Andreev on hard :) and I don't know what's up with Youzhny.. he's supposed to be retired from DC, but played last tie, so maybe that's only 2 players

fran70
12-31-2011, 12:15 PM
that's 3, I would put Bogomolov in over Andreev on hard :) and I don't know what's up with Youzhny.. he's supposed to be retired from DC, but played last tie, so maybe that's only 2 players

On hard I would pick for singles Youzhny, Tursunov and Davydenko over Bogomolov. On clay Youzhny, Davydenko and Andreev over Bogomolov. On grass Youzhny and Tursunov and possibly Bogomolov in the worst of the cases :D

TMJordan
01-01-2012, 07:28 AM
I spit on the USTA.

guichard
01-11-2012, 09:20 PM
Bogomolov not happy to repay USTA

Alex Bogomolov Jr.'s career year in 2011 ended on somewhat of a sour note when he was told to repay $75,000 to the United States Tennis Association for changing his nationality from American to Russian.

Bogomolov, ranked 34th in the world, made the change so he could play Davis Cup, which he would not have been afforded an opportunity to do with the U.S. team.

He signed a contract with the USTA in 2009 when he needed a place to stay in Florida in order to practice, and said he was provided about $800 from the governing body to do so.

"It was a lot of money for us to stay afloat" at the time, Bogomolov, who ended 2009 ranked outside the top 300, said in a phone interview.

Bogomolov handed a check to the USTA at the end of December -- and didn't like doing it.

"(Fellow players) thought it was right for me to give back any money," Bogomolov said. "Everyone was behind me. Everyone is cool with me. We just felt it was better to end it. To tell you the truth, it was a big load off my shoulders after we (sent) the check."

The saga put a damper on what should have been a smooth, uplifting offseason for the player. After going through a painful, public divorce, serving a suspension for taking a banned substance and overcoming a career threatening wrist injury, the 28-year-old Bogomolov had a defining 2011 season, rising more than 130 spots in the rankings, enough to win the ATP Tour's Most Improved Player award.
more here http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/7451056/alex-bogomolov-jr-repays-usta-changed-nationality

ossie
01-11-2012, 10:55 PM
Bogomolov is a mug, why does USTA have their panties in a bunch about this? You'd think they were losing Olderer or something...so is the usta these days

out_here_grindin
01-11-2012, 11:21 PM
They care because it's Russia.

Bunch of old suits stuck in a cold war mentality.

I don't remember any fuss when Delic started playing for Bosnia.

What else to you expect when every American made movie still has Russian bad guys.

Henry Chinaski
01-12-2012, 12:36 AM
One thing that disgusts me about this is that the USTA are probably fucking delighted that Bogey defected before the Olymnpics.

Who would they rather have at the Olympics? Unfashionable journeyman Bogey or goldenboy Ryan Harrison?

No contest. They'd much prefer send other previously hyped youngsters Young and Querrey too.