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Nathaliia
11-09-2007, 11:52 PM
Michael is the fan of The Streets ;). Such person cannot be bad :D

leng jai
11-09-2007, 11:53 PM
Nat you should come on msn and join genci, glenn and I in our group convo.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 12:00 AM
I have wireless net that keeps me disconnecting all the time. MTF is the only thing that works for me.

Though I definitely would like to read parts of you whinings.

And a whining Genci is always a pleasure for my ears, though in different circumstances ;)

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 12:07 AM
I don't like Fakervic and I can't see any youtube links on my new laptop :(

Djoko's appearance in the top will make Poland and Canada be blown of the top of ACC already next year. His moronic nationalistic fans will take first 4 seeded spots.

You gotta install some plugins and updates for your browser to watch them, Nathi.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 12:10 AM
yeah, i think Macromedia Flash plugins is what she needs

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 12:35 AM
anyways goodnight :D

i know you were talking about the cigarettes. if wanna know my opinion, they SUCK

Snowwy
11-10-2007, 12:58 AM
Michael is the fan of The Streets ;). Such person cannot be bad :D

How can you not like the Streets, they have the best accents for a rappers ever other than Maritimers from Canada..like Classified.

nolop
11-10-2007, 01:22 AM
I don't like Fakervic and I can't see any youtube links on my new laptop :(


if you have updated your flash try turning off and then on your java

if you cant see any videos links yet try http://youtube.com instead of
http://www.youtube.com .:)

bokehlicious
11-10-2007, 09:39 AM
ah well, hope you can enjoy the first match between gasgay and piggy :p

A battle of moonballers indoors should be fun :silly: gosh Roger, rip those clowns a new one :o :D

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:42 AM
will be done son, will be done

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 09:42 AM
Federer has a Bye into the semis, he will only lose this event if he gets poisoned.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:44 AM
Federer has a Bye into the semis, he will only lose this event if he gets poisoned.

he needs to be careful with the dim sum there

leng jai
11-10-2007, 09:47 AM
Just got back from tennis. Won doubles 6-7 6-2 6-2 and the singles 9-8. Physically I'm totally fucked because of the hot conditions and my cold - snot was flying everywhere and the court didn't have a water tap which I believe is a form of torture.

bokehlicious
11-10-2007, 09:47 AM
he needs to be careful with the dim sum there

Tricky group :o I hope Roger will be focused enough and get the job done... I also hope the TMC is an event worthy enough for him to bring his best and focus on the game :(

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 09:48 AM
:eek: :mad: George you're a bad bad person, you're evil :p

Yes, I know I can't help myself, well I can just not very well.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:52 AM
Just got back from tennis. Won doubles 6-7 6-2 6-2 and the singles 9-8. Physically I'm totally fucked because of the hot conditions and my cold - snot was flying everywhere and the court didn't have a water tap which I believe is a form of torture.

at least you got the job done
do you play only hard court during summer there?

Tricky group :o I hope Roger will be focused enough and get the job done... I also hope the TMC is an event worthy enough for him to bring his best and focus on the game :(

he needs an important title to close the year, i dont see him not being focused

leng jai
11-10-2007, 09:53 AM
Most courts are onticar here, pretty much like clay. I wish I could play on hardcourts, suits my game a lot more.

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 09:54 AM
Just got back from tennis. Won doubles 6-7 6-2 6-2 and the singles 9-8. Physically I'm totally fucked because of the hot conditions and my cold - snot was flying everywhere and the court didn't have a water tap which I believe is a form of torture.

You got the job done and that's a good thing. I have a friend who is a rich prick and he is a member of Kooyong.

Only time I played a match on a grasscourt, it was a strange experience.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:56 AM
Only time I played a match on a grasscourt, it was a strange experience.

only surface I havent tried yet
and i doubt i will anytime soon

bokehlicious
11-10-2007, 09:58 AM
he needs an important title to close the year, i dont see him not being focused

Not so sure about that... Of course the TMC is a major event, but his #1 spot is a lock and I'm afraid he's already looking forward to his coming vacation before THE YEAR of all pressure, a Golden year ahead with the possibility of breaking some big records... :shrug:

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:03 AM
You got the job done and that's a good thing. I have a friend who is a rich prick and he is a member of Kooyong.

Only time I played a match on a grasscourt, it was a strange experience.

I play at Kooyong sometimes but only on the faulty clay courts. They treat their grass courts like gold and half the time there aren't even nets up. Its an honor to see centre court the court of champions in person and its also the Arod's favourite court.

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 10:05 AM
Most courts are onticar here, pretty much like clay. I wish I could play on hardcourts, suits my game a lot more.

En-tout-cas, the third rate clay. I do a lot better on that surface, then again if I win anywhere, it's a surprise.

I didn't play so bad on the grass, just had to play differently.

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:06 AM
Whats actually the difference between en-tout-cas and real clay?

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 10:15 AM
They are made of different products. Red clay is a nautral surface and en-tout-cas is a mixture of crushed brick and some other synethics that help the courts dry quicker.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:45 AM
Good morning :)

I can't believe but I actually don't have a hangover :D

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:49 AM
only surface I havent tried yet
and i doubt i will anytime soon
You are like the young Berlocq:awww:

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:49 AM
Morning. Is your internet still 2 buck faulty?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:52 AM
they aer trying to repair the internet at the tv channel :yippee:

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:54 AM
Surprisingly right now I was disconnected only twice but then again, I have been using it only for 7 minutes.

Last night I accidentaly clicked the button on the "remember this wireless connection" and it reconnects automatically. Still, would be throwing away from MSN.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:56 AM
they aer trying to repair the internet at the tv channel :yippee:
This means more Genci :yippee:

What if I bumped your appreciation thread, I think you got some new fans? :)

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:57 AM
This means more Genci :yippee:

What if I bumped your appreciation thread, I think you got some new fans? :)

nonono, let it be buried

that reminded me of the ringtone i use for SMSs, it's Apu from the Simpsons saying 'no-no-no-no no-no-no'

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:58 AM
I'm bored and no one is posting in GM. Boo

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 11:01 AM
i doubt it will be done for today though, but hopefully tomorrow

here it rained all night but now is sunny. It even rained in the Dajti Mountain near tirana

http://shqiperia.com/galeria/d/20284-2/Dajti.jpg

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 11:02 AM
I'm bored and no one is posting in GM. Boo

yeah, people seem to go out on weekend, stupid mops

I'm off to commentate Sharapova-Ivanovic :drool:

leng jai
11-10-2007, 11:03 AM
Boo. Ivanovic got schooled :(

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 11:04 AM
Hey we can vote now :)

I'll try to be a little harsh today.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 11:05 AM
I'll vote later in the evening

poof

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 11:07 AM
Been out all day.

Now it will be a round a day for the rest of the event.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 11:07 AM
nonono, let it be buried

that reminded me of the ringtone i use for SMSs, it's Apu from the Simpsons saying 'no-no-no-no no-no-no'
Would be a good start to the "free jocaputs" discussion :haha:

BTW I liked your presentation in PAW, the semi-western grip :drool:

leng jai
11-10-2007, 11:20 AM
I must be getting close to 100 posts by now. Some good spamming in the last few days.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 11:35 AM
I'll tell you later how many posts you have, hmm, I have yet 8 matches to vote and going out of the reasons :haha:

leng jai
11-10-2007, 11:38 AM
I'm too lazy to vote. Anyway I'm really fucken tired from tennis so I think I'll have an early night. Good night ladies.

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 11:38 AM
leng, just vote without reasons.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 11:43 AM
Maybe leng will vote in the evening of GMT time.... enjoy the night and you have 52 posts ;)

JMPower has 51 and I voted him in the ACC however wanted to leave that match without a vote. JM is cool and safin-rules isn't as stupid as he acts.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 01:19 PM
I also wonder if Jaap is going to bagel Kuhne, :eek:

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 01:27 PM
This is where the others start to shine.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 01:30 PM
Also mtw looks a bit stronger now, I feared she was going to underperform. Deivid - Raver looks like a match of the round as for now, while Adam easily is beating Dante in the match of the haters.

Also it's the moment when wannabe trolls like Rafa Wedgie must feel the supremacy of angiel :worship:

Action Jackson
11-10-2007, 01:31 PM
Tangerinus has to win her match and I think Escude should get through his one as well.

martine2
11-10-2007, 01:48 PM
Good afternoon :)

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 01:56 PM
Good afternoon Martine, did you vote in Cmon Aussie - sharpeirob? Both are in bold and I didn't count the match.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 01:58 PM
Tangy has the few points lead, Escude is surprisingly struggling :( And also we can have an upset, MBF losing :eek:

martine2
11-10-2007, 02:02 PM
Good afternoon Martine, did you vote in Cmon Aussie - sharpeirob? Both are in bold and I didn't count the match.

Indeed... just corrected it ;)

Tangy has the few points lead, Escude is surprisingly struggling :( And also we can have an upset, MBF losing :eek:

Mikey :bigcry:
I want him to go on :sad:
On the other hand it will be soooo difficult if he has to face Gu :help:

bokehlicious
11-10-2007, 02:20 PM
Geez am struggling more than expected today, hope I can find an answer eventually :( :o I want to face the GOAT next round, something I can tell my grandsons :cool:

martine2
11-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Geez am struggling more than expected today, hope I can find an answer eventually :( :o I want to face the GOAT next round, something I can tell my grandsons :cool:

Sorry JM, it was difficult indeed but yr opponent had been lobbying for this vote for so long already...

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 04:37 PM
:wavey:

internet at work is ok now

martine2
11-10-2007, 04:40 PM
hey! You commentating?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 04:40 PM
hey! You commentating?

yep WTA :zzz:

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 07:10 PM
Have been offline in the afternoon because there were some people here wanting something and then I was reading the newspapers, but now I'm sacrifying my favourite TV show to count the scores in progress

(I already like it so much :D)

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 07:30 PM
Maria Sharapova is back :rocker2:

Hello here! :wavey:

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 07:40 PM
Have been offline in the afternoon because there were some people here wanting something and then I was reading the newspapers, but now I'm sacrifying my favourite TV show to count the scores in progress

(I already like it so much :D)

half and half? :)

Maria Sharapova is back :rocker2:

Hello here! :wavey:

yeah, hopefully she demilishes the midget tomorrow

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 07:41 PM
Gulzhan, there is a very annoying Sharapova fan in this forum, check the user @ Sweet Cleopatra :o:o:o

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 07:44 PM
beau i'll publish scores after Nadie in 2 minutes and starting from page 4 let's make half and half :)

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 07:46 PM
beau i'll publish scores after Nadie in 2 minutes and starting from page 4 let's make half and half :)

as you wish babybeau :)

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 07:48 PM
yeah, hopefully she demilishes the midget tomorrow

i doubt it :sad: but i am just happy masha is in the final! :banana:

Gulzhan, there is a very annoying Sharapova fan in this forum, check the user @ Sweet Cleopatra :o:o:o

yes, i saw her funny thread :o i mean, the idea of the thread is not that bad actually... i was thinking about opening a thread "hands off russia" myself :lol: but the poster :eek:

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 07:50 PM
what are you counting? :confused:

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 07:53 PM
what are you counting? :confused:

votes for ACC

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 07:53 PM
ah :o

i never understood it :shrug: it's good or bad to win it?

Baghdatis72
11-10-2007, 07:54 PM
votes for ACC

Wasn't Xristos declared the undisputed champion already? :lol:

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 07:55 PM
tomorrow is such a cool day :) first, richard is playing against rafa :scared: then masha is playing against justine :scared:

:lol:

i love to watch horror ;)

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 07:58 PM
ah :o

i never understood it :shrug: it's good or bad to win it?

i wouldnt call it a good thing but everyone seems to want it

Wasn't Xristos declared the undisputed champion already? :lol:

he choked in the final last year :sad:

Baghdatis72
11-10-2007, 07:59 PM
he choked in the final last year :sad:

:lol:

What are his chances this year?

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 08:00 PM
i didn't vote :o i am just lost :unsure: if i like someone, should i vote for him? or not to vote?

Baghdatis72
11-10-2007, 08:01 PM
i didn't vote :o i am just lost :unsure: if i like someone, should i vote for him? or not to vote?

Vote for someone who makes the most stupid and meaningless posts ;)

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:01 PM
Masha is in the final? Geez this is how I followed tennis these days...

Hey Andreas, Xris was in the final last year but this year no chance he is getting there, the same for the last year's winner. I think ezekiel has the biggest chance of winning, hopefully with one of the Poles in the final - Jogy or mtw.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 08:03 PM
:lol:

What are his chances this year?

scarce, he is rather pasé now

i didn't vote :o i am just lost :unsure: if i like someone, should i vote for him? or not to vote?

i'd say you vote the real clowns

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 08:04 PM
yep, too busy with counting :lol:

i think ACC is taking place a bit early ;) it's Madrid and Shangahi time and then, we still have DC :devil:

Baghdatis72
11-10-2007, 08:07 PM
Masha is in the final? Geez this is how I followed tennis these days...

Hey Andreas, Xris was in the final last year but this year no chance he is getting there, the same for the last year's winner. I think ezekiel has the biggest chance of winning, hopefully with one of the Poles in the final - Jogy or mtw.

Hi Nathi :wavey:

So Xristos was outplayed this year then :eek:

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:07 PM
Overall it is a bad thing to be voted there, but some people want the votes, though they may cover the lack of confidence and turning it into a joke. If they can't impress people with being cool, they find it easier to impress people with being a clown.

IMO nothing bad with a little trolling, we all want to be funny for a while or provoke the reactions of serious morons, therefore I think only the higher rounds reachers are the life losers.

In the early rounds you usually cast some votes for friends or something, more for fun than because you dislike them.

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 08:08 PM
i'd say you vote the real clowns

i don't read much :o just the headlines :lol: and the russian tennis threads :p

i wanted to goodrep you for the response to that cleopatra's post, it was so funny :haha: but i must spread etc...

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:10 PM
Hi Nathi :wavey:

So Xristos was outplayed this year then :eek:
I think he's winning against Peoples. But should lose maybe in the next round... at this moment Genci is counting his new votes, his match in this round (3rd round it is) is close.

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 08:10 PM
oki, nathii, you persuaded me :lol: will go there and vote for people i know ;)

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 08:11 PM
Xristos is dominating now

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:12 PM
i don't read much :o just the headlines :lol: and the russian tennis threads :p

i wanted to goodrep you for the response to that cleopatra's post, it was so funny :haha: but i must spread etc...
you don't have to vote for every match, for example if you vote only for Mara_M it will be also counted :p

maldini
11-10-2007, 08:15 PM
Hey Andreas, Xris was in the final last year but this year no chance he is getting there, the same for the last year's winner. I think ezekiel has the biggest chance of winning, hopefully with one of the Poles in the final - Jogy or mtw.

Who won it last year?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 08:18 PM
Who won it last year?

just answered that question in the voting thread :p

maldini
11-10-2007, 08:21 PM
just answered that question in the voting thread :p

Just seen it :p

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 08:22 PM
i voted :)

but where is george? :o i did not see him in the draw!

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 08:23 PM
i voted :)

but where is george? :o i did not see him in the draw!

just in 2nd round to jerry

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 08:26 PM
lost! :eek: that's so bad! not by one vote only i hope or i will never forgive myself ;) :lol:

now i understand why the posts at GM got so evil lately :o

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:28 PM
Xristos is dominating now
I voted for peoples, left the reason there :(

gulzhan
11-10-2007, 08:31 PM
euh.. 2.30 :scared:

i am off :zzz: have to get up by the time richie starts his match :lol:


good luck with tt and paw in shanghai, genci! :hug: i envy you.. playing paw both there and DC...

and good luck to george too, of course :hearts:

his first TMS right? ;) just like for richie :angel: :lol:

night! :wavey:

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:32 PM
Loved the spontaneous reason of Gulzhan for Byrd :haha: :haha:

George was rather owned in the end by Jerry, well I voted Jerry too but let's face it, he shouldn't be so high when the really impressive people already lost.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 08:34 PM
euh.. 2.30 :scared:

i am off :zzz: have to get up by the time richie starts his match :lol:


good luck with tt and paw in shanghai, genci! :hug: i envy you.. playing paw both there and DC...

and good luck to george too, of course :hearts:

his first TMS right? ;) just like for richie :angel: :lol:

night! :wavey:

it's first TMC for both of us

i doubt I'll be able to play DC final, I'll be in Belgrade that weekend
maybe I'll leave my place to nathi :)

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:40 PM
What time is the match tomorrow?

Genci plays also TT TMC with Andre :speakles: This Genci is good...

And best of luck to the beau and GWH and to the Kazakhstan team in the finals :D Who is the Kazakhstan's opponent?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 08:41 PM
What time is the match tomorrow?


And best of luck to the beau and GWH and to the Kazakhstan team in the finals :D Who is the Kazakhstan's opponent?

7or 8am, not sure

Germany :speakles: with Jan and Christian

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:43 PM
Escude sent me a rep that he isn't a wolf without the teeth :awww:. But how far can he go in the event? He can get kicked out by tangy :sad:

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 08:44 PM
Escude sent me a rep that he isn't a wolf without the teeth :awww:. But how far can he go in the event? He can get kicked out by tangy :sad:

he's too active, he'll go surely through

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:45 PM
7or 8am, not sure

Germany :speakles: with Jan and Christian
:armed:

By the way I didn't know Jan was so good in PAW.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:45 PM
he's too active, he'll go surely through
He needs to start insulting other people than adee-gee though.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 08:47 PM
:armed:

By the way I didn't know Jan was so good in PAW.

he doesnt play often, just DC

I think he only played Bangkok lately and won it :lol:

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 08:54 PM
he doesnt play often, just DC

I think he only played Bangkok lately and won it :lol:
Wow, he's really good. Why isn't he playing more often?

But Christian surely has no shape, will be easy to beat :haha:

leng jai
11-10-2007, 09:06 PM
Morning people.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:09 PM
morning Ade

(in another forum I used to go often the ownder's name was Adrian (actually he was dutch so it was Adriaan) and we called him Ade :o )

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:11 PM
are you reading the Buenos Aires challenger thread Nathi? :haha:

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 09:13 PM
No, I have just downloaded a random web builder and trying to crack it up for fun, and for a pattern I started making an official website of our thread :haha:

It's only a 30 days trial though so I won't use it for any purposes. But fun for the evening, yeah.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 09:14 PM
Ade, now you aren't tired, you can vote :D Some close matches, you can decide Deivid - RaVeR for example.

leng jai
11-10-2007, 09:16 PM
I'll think about it. I'm still tired actually, sleep is bloody useless sometimes.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 09:19 PM
I am also sleepy :sad:.

What would you do if the world was to end tomorrow?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:22 PM
What would you do if the world was to end tomorrow?

i dont care, I got a new friend :eek:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=6246409&postcount=72

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 09:36 PM
Hey'all!

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:36 PM
this is why dudi_fan should have been in

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=107456

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 09:38 PM
The challenger forum became a madhouse since I'm not there :(

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 09:41 PM
Hi Gu :)

Genci, when you gave them the link to challenger chat thread I was pretty sure it was the link to one of ACC threads :haha:

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 09:46 PM
Should I sleep now so I can watch the TMC until about 8am tomorrow? :scratch:

leng jai
11-10-2007, 09:46 PM
Alright just finished voting.

leng jai
11-10-2007, 09:48 PM
Should I sleep now so I can watch the TMC until about 8am tomorrow? :scratch:

Why would you wanna watch moonball ass picker versus moonball gasgay?

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 09:53 PM
Oh gosh, quiron now joined the enlightened discussion. I think he was also one of the flamers in DDL?

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 09:53 PM
Why would you wanna watch moonball ass picker versus moonball gasgay?

Well, I'm having problems with lack of tennis - I'm addicted. :o

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 09:54 PM
Guys, do you prefer Richie or Nadal? ;)

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:56 PM
Well, I'm having problems with lack of tennis - I'm addicted. :o

if you get bored you can alway look at Xristos' youtube videos

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 09:58 PM
Guys, do you prefer Richie or Nadal? ;)

Anything but Nadal.

if you get bored you can alway look at Xristos' youtube videos

I can do better.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 09:58 PM
Guys, do you prefer Richie or Nadal? ;)

need to ask? ;)

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 09:59 PM
if you get bored you can alway look at Xristos' youtube videos
Has he published anything new?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:00 PM
Has he published anything new?

we're waiting for it

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:00 PM
need to ask? ;)
You are a richiefan in denial, but the fact richie21 keeps him for his own in a love-hate relationship is putting you a bit off :sad:

maldini
11-10-2007, 10:02 PM
Guys, do you prefer Richie or Nadal? ;)

Gasquet of course :p

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:04 PM
we're waiting for it
Oh great we have been waiting for it for 2 years already

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:04 PM
do you have other matches today Adrian?

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:04 PM
Xristos :yawn:

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:05 PM
do you have other matches today Adrian?

Nah, which is lucky considering I pretty much used up my back down the line quota yesterday.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:06 PM
Xristos :yawn:

you live in the same city :eek:

maybe you'll see him next year at AO

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:07 PM
Gasquet of course :p
Haha, anyway funny stuff that this thread is mainly siding with Federer (and also the ones like Calleri, Gaba, Tsonga etc.) and Adam's with Rafa and Fakervic ;)

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:08 PM
you live in the same city :eek:

maybe you'll see him next year at AO

Yeah probably selling stuff in the Aus Open merchandise booth.

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:08 PM
Wow Adrian you should make a contest with you, him and Andres Guazzelli :D Or at least you should offer taking the vids of him because MTF community cannot wait :haha:

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:08 PM
Haha, anyway funny stuff that this thread is mainly siding with Federer (and also the ones like Calleri, Gaba, Tsonga etc.) and Adam's with Rafa and Fakervic ;)

That's because we're not fanboys.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:10 PM
Haha, anyway funny stuff that this thread is mainly siding with Federer (and also the ones like Calleri, Gaba, Tsonga etc.) and Adam's with Rafa and Fakervic ;)

Safin lately as well

Yeah probably selling stuff in the Aus Open merchandise booth.

:lol: selling his 2007 models of outwear since he got already the new 2008 collection

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:11 PM
That's because we're not fanboys.
I am a Genci's groupie and he won a match today, 6-1 6-1 in the Albanian championships :awww:

cute talented beau :hearts: :inlove: :kiss: :drool: :lick: i am sitting in the Albania shirt now btw

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:12 PM
I am a Genci's groupie and he won a match today, 6-1 6-1 in the Albanian championships :awww:

cute talented beau :hearts: :inlove: :kiss: :drool: :lick: i am sitting in the Albania shirt now btw

it was so cold I needed to finish it quick, probably 40 minutes
of course, the poor boy couldnt have made resistance on his coach :o

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:13 PM
That thread should be named the "fanboys and ill-taste thread".

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:13 PM
Safin lately as well



:lol: selling his 2007 models of outwear since he got already the new 2008 collection
Safin partied with Voo de Mar in Sopot (this is what none of the Safinettes did methinks) and I was the first person who has received the photos :D

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:17 PM
it was so cold I needed to finish it quick, probably 40 minutes
of course, the poor boy couldnt have made resistance on his coach :o
he probably also wanted to have it quickly finished :lol:

what is your prediction for the 2nd round?
That thread should be named the "fanboys and ill-taste thread".
What is the difference between fan and fanboy?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:18 PM
That thread should be named the "fanboys and ill-taste thread".

you have 1353 posts there :p



what is your prediction for the 2nd round?



6-1 6-1, other 2 pity games

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:18 PM
What is the difference between fan and fanboy?

Fanboy is someone who's blind when it comes to his idol.

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:20 PM
you have 1353 posts there :p

To know the enemy you have to get to know them. ;)

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:22 PM
How long till the ACC closes?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:24 PM
How long till the ACC closes?

for today's voting around 35 more minutes

Where is my Mind is one of my 20-30 songs ever ;)
but the Pixies version

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:24 PM
How long till the ACC closes?

No idea, but it should go 'till mid-next week.

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:26 PM
for today's voting around 35 more minutes

Where is my Mind is one of my 20-30 songs ever ;)
but the Pixies version

It was the pixies version ;)

LK_22
11-10-2007, 10:27 PM
Evening all :wavey:

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:27 PM
you have 1353 posts there :p



6-1 6-1, other 2 pity games
I know that people want to vote Gu eagerly, but VolandriFan needed more votes in the clash, and they wouldn't be even containing so much of the pity

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:29 PM
It was the pixies version ;)

you wrote there Placebo :shrug:

Evening all :wavey:

yo Liam

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Fanboy is someone who's blind when it comes to his idol.
leng jai is blind when it comes to Haas :awww:

I am blind when it comes to Genci, blinded by the big hearts replacing my eyes :hearts:

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Hey Liam, no party on the Saturday evening?

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:31 PM
Yeah I wrote the wrong one, I've got both.

leng jai
11-10-2007, 10:32 PM
leng jai is blind when it comes to Haas :awww:

I am blind when it comes to Genci, blinded by the big hearts replacing my eyes :hearts:

Haas 4 lyfe.

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:33 PM
:lol:

Let's say we all have our little fanboyisms, but some can hide it a little better.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:34 PM
I've been tagged as Fedtard a lot recently :o

LK_22
11-10-2007, 10:35 PM
yo Liam

Hi Genci :)
Anyone else not really bothered about this year's Masters Cup? Rafa vs Novak should be interesting and anyone can easily get second in the Red Group, Roddick's going to serve up his usual against Fed, the Gold Group are going to moonball just about everything :o

How's the Arseclown Championships going?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:36 PM
Hi Genci :)
Anyone else not really bothered about this year's Masters Cup? Rafa vs Novak should be interesting and anyone can easily get second in the Red Group, Roddick's going to serve up his usual against Fed, the Gold Group are going to moonball just about everything :o

How's the Arseclown Championships going?

I just hope the matches are long so I get more money commentating :)

it's going well, the 4th round is tomorrow

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:36 PM
I've been tagged as Fedtard a lot recently :o

You don't do a lot to dispel that impression. :p

LK_22
11-10-2007, 10:37 PM
Hey Liam, no party on the Saturday evening?

No not this week, it's usually the night I'm out, but nobody's out tonight,
just relaxing now after doing a bit of exercise

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:39 PM
oh mang, this DATS guy kills me :lol:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=6246649#post6246649

LK_22
11-10-2007, 10:41 PM
I just hope the matches are long so I get more money commentating :)

it's going well, the 4th round is tomorrow

:lol: With the rallying that should be going on in the Gold Group you should get your wish
The Red Group might be interesting though, I wouldn't expect Federer to drop too many sets, and the form of Roddick, Gonzalez and Davydenko is definitely questionable for different reasons

Nice, so many clowns only one winner :lol:

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:43 PM
oh mang, this DATS guy kills me :lol:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=6246649#post6246649

Who? The DATS guy?

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Who? The DATS guy?

of course, quality

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:48 PM
I've been tagged as Fedtard a lot recently :o
For people it's very easy - Rafa hater = Fed tard

Snowwy
11-10-2007, 10:49 PM
DATS is hilirious in the challenger threads and his signature is gold.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:49 PM
but I'm more a Duckhater :shrug:

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:53 PM
but I'm more a Duckhater :shrug:

Another reason.

All your hated players can be related to Fedtardism: Roddick, Nadal, Hewitt...

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Another reason.

All your hated players can be related to Fedtardism: Roddick, Nadal, Hewitt...

i dont think that fedtards have any reason to hate Roddick that concerns them being fans of Fed since Duck has been schooled regulary

for Nadal could be

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Gu you have a very sad PM :sad:

Snowwy
11-10-2007, 10:58 PM
i dont think that fedtards have any reason to hate Roddick that concerns them being fans of Fed since Duck has been schooled regulary

for Nadal could be

The thing I dont get is why you are a tard if you simply dont like another player.

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 10:58 PM
i dont think that fedtards have any reason to hate Roddick that concerns them being fans of Fed since Duck has been schooled regulary

for Nadal could be

A Duckhater could have turned into a Fedtard because of the schooling, get me?

Nathaliia
11-10-2007, 11:00 PM
Haas 4 lyfe.
What other players do you like? ;)
Hi Genci :)
Anyone else not really bothered about this year's Masters Cup? Rafa vs Novak should be interesting and anyone can easily get second in the Red Group, Roddick's going to serve up his usual against Fed, the Gold Group are going to moonball just about everything :o

How's the Arseclown Championships going?
Last time I was bothered it was in 2005 and it was a lucky year because my favourite player won :D I might get myself interested if Gasquet and Ferrer start owning.
No not this week, it's usually the night I'm out, but nobody's out tonight,
just relaxing now after doing a bit of exercise
My friends are having my birthday party without me :lol: I am just sick today, no chance for a wild drinking, while people needed a reason to get drunk. At least I got the gifts, cool.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 11:00 PM
A Duckhater could have turned into a Fedtard because of the schooling, get me?

gotcha

leng jai
11-10-2007, 11:06 PM
I don't really like any players besides Haas and Guga, but Guga is gone. Haas will be gone soon too and I'll probably give up watching tennis.

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 11:08 PM
My friends are having my birthday party without me :lol: I am just sick today, no chance for a wild drinking, while people needed a reason to get drunk. At least I got the gifts, cool.

na zdrowie

LK_22
11-10-2007, 11:17 PM
Last time I was bothered it was in 2005 and it was a lucky year because my favourite player won :D I might get myself interested if Gasquet and Ferrer start owning.

My friends are having my birthday party without me :lol: I am just sick today, no chance for a wild drinking, while people needed a reason to get drunk. At least I got the gifts, cool.

Nalbandian being in it this year definitely would have gave the tournament a lift with the form he was on at the end of the season, mine was proberly back in 04 with Henman :p although I think his game at this point was already starting to go on the slide, despite a win against a poor and lack of matches Coria. Safin was also in that year as well

:lol: :hug: Sorry Nathi I didn't know Happy Birthday :aparty: :rocker2: Most people I know don't need a reason to get drunk :p but I guess as you get older you have to get more responsible :p
Always nice to get gifts

LK_22
11-10-2007, 11:20 PM
I don't really like any players besides Haas and Guga, but Guga is gone. Haas will be gone soon too and I'll probably give up watching tennis.

I'm still tennis wise in depression from Henman's retirement and I'm sure more of the old school like Santoro and Bjorkman won't be around for too much longer :o
And yes unfortunately apart from the odd WC and DC appearance, Guga is gone for good

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 11:43 PM
I'm still tennis wise in depression from Henman's retirement and I'm sure more of the old school like Santoro and Bjorkman won't be around for too much longer :o
And yes unfortunately apart from the odd WC and DC appearance, Guga is gone for good

Guga is retired mate. He will take a while to announce it because of sponsoring problems here in Brazil. ;)

LK_22
11-10-2007, 11:49 PM
Guga is retired mate. He will take a while to announce it because of sponsoring problems here in Brazil. ;)

Thanks for that Gu, I thought he was virtually out of the door but wasn't 100% certain he was definitely retired
Did you see my running video? :p

scarecrows
11-10-2007, 11:51 PM
I'll go sleep :wavey:

see ya later

after 7 hours and a half i'll be commentating :o

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2007, 11:51 PM
Thanks for that Gu, I thought he was virtually out of the door but wasn't 100% certain he was definitely retired
Did you see my running video? :p

No, show me. :)

LK_22
11-10-2007, 11:52 PM
I'll go sleep :wavey:

see ya later

after 7 hours and a half i'll be commentating :o

Bye Genci :wavey: Think I'll be going in a minute too

LK_22
11-10-2007, 11:55 PM
No, show me. :)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-w_E0lppUbw This is the first cross country race of the season I done the other Saturday, if you freeze it on 13-14 seconds you can see me in (blue vest with yellow stripe) :)
There's 5 other videos of the same race as well, all on the river crossing :lol:
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GlennMirnyi
11-11-2007, 12:01 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-w_E0lppUbw This is the first cross country race of the season I done the other Saturday, if you freeze it on 13-14 seconds you can see me in (blue vest with yellow stripe) :)
There's 5 other videos of the same race as well, all on the river crossing :lol:
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Yeah I caught you. :lol: Very nice but very messy too. :o

LK_22
11-11-2007, 12:07 AM
Yeah I caught you. :lol: Very nice but very messy too. :o

That's cross country for you :) They don't often stick a river in, good fun :lol: but it beats running round flat football pitches :)

Think I'll go to sleep now night Gu :wavey:

GlennMirnyi
11-11-2007, 12:10 AM
That's cross country for you :) They don't often stick a river in, good fun :lol: but it beats running round flat football pitches :)

Think I'll go to sleep now night Gu :wavey:

Night Liam! :wavey:

leng jai
11-11-2007, 12:21 AM
Ah just watching my Haas Vs Blake US Open DVD. This is how real men play tennis.

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 12:40 AM
Has anybody been added on MSN by ufokart@hotmail.com? Is it Edu?

GlennMirnyi
11-11-2007, 02:06 AM
Has anybody been added on MSN by ufokart@hotmail.com? Is it Edu?

No it's not Edu. ;)

Nathi, I hope my PM helped you, really. Whenever you need anything, just send me a line. :)

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 03:35 AM
Finished with the PM :banana:

One of my longest PMs ever but so well written :D

TMJordan
11-11-2007, 03:36 AM
Someone's up late! :eek:

leng jai
11-11-2007, 03:43 AM
Well it is her birthday.

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 03:45 AM
I don't really like any players besides Haas and Guga, but Guga is gone. Haas will be gone soon too and I'll probably give up watching tennis.
This is how MTF lost one of the best posters, AgassiDomination :sad:. He must have been the only Agassi fan that made sense
na zdrowie
Smart beau :kiss:
Nalbandian being in it this year definitely would have gave the tournament a lift with the form he was on at the end of the season, mine was proberly back in 04 with Henman :p although I think his game at this point was already starting to go on the slide, despite a win against a poor and lack of matches Coria. Safin was also in that year as well

:lol: :hug: Sorry Nathi I didn't know Happy Birthday :aparty: :rocker2: Most people I know don't need a reason to get drunk :p but I guess as you get older you have to get more responsible :p
Always nice to get gifts
Nah, birthday is on Monday, they just keep drinking on behalf of it for the second day already and it's very loud at the corridor.
No it's not Edu. ;)

Nathi, I hope my PM helped you, really. Whenever you need anything, just send me a line. :)
Great... still "naranockers" remains my favourite fake msn of his :haha: Hard to beat.

As for your help, was bloody much appreciated. This is what friends are for :D

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 03:48 AM
Someone's up late! :eek:
Was writing a PM for few hours
Well it is her birthday.
Monday :banghead:. Well, on the next night I don't expect anybody celebrating because Monday is the day with early classes ;)

I didn't even have a glass of any alcohol today :aparty:

TMJordan
11-11-2007, 03:49 AM
Was writing a PM for few hours

Monday :banghead:. Well, on the next night I don't expect anybody celebrating because Monday is the day with early classes ;)

I didn't even have a glass of any alcohol today :aparty:

You should get some sleep :hug:

I hope Monday is a great day for you :D

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 03:52 AM
Not sure if going sleep would make sense now though :scratch:

TMJordan
11-11-2007, 03:53 AM
Did you nap earlier today?

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 03:57 AM
A little, yeah. I have the PMS so I am more annoying than usual and Jordan, I voted for you, but you didn't win.

Just like sawan. And I could have voted him saying: "Fan of Nalbandian, precious as MTF has been lately lacking those"

leng jai
11-11-2007, 04:00 AM
I probably won't be voting again, it took me ages to think of the reasons last time.

TMJordan
11-11-2007, 04:01 AM
Yes I saw that, thanks :) I laughed out loud reading your reasoning :haha: But really I had no chance.

I am going to go for a walk now to clear my head (I am betting again :rolleyes: and not hamburger money)

Well goodnight Nathaliia, or should I saw goodmorning ;)

:wavey: :hug:

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 04:06 AM
Put a bank on Rafa, at least you'd still be happy when he loses.

Adrian, reasons aren't mandatory ;) Buddyholly voted only BIlbo with a reason "bimbo" :awww:

PS. I liked my mtw reasoning the most, I doubt I'll top that ;)

leng jai
11-11-2007, 04:21 AM
But it seems so pointless to do it without reasoning.

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 04:30 AM
You are right that reasoning is the salt of the competition. Well, one voter less means less job for Genci and myself so I won't cry.

My roomie came back drunk and she keeps snoring.

I should try fall asleep now too.

Snowwy
11-11-2007, 04:41 AM
Youre up late tonight Nathii

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 06:33 AM
Nathi awake at 5am :eek:

like the old days, eh?

bokehlicious
11-11-2007, 06:38 AM
For people it's very easy - Rafa hater = Fed tard

For some if you don't hate Fed then you have to be one of his tards... :o



VAMOS RICHARD :rocker2:

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 07:34 AM
allez

win the 3d

leng jai
11-11-2007, 07:58 AM
Watching Ass picker vs Gasgay. What a fucken barrage of moonballs.

my0118
11-11-2007, 09:37 AM
Watching Ass picker vs Gasgay. What a fucken barrage of moonballs.

Stop bitching about players you dont like.
your idiot Haas didn't even make shanghai.
your hero was demolished by Crappydenko in USO. it says it all.
I'd try to be nice to you, but you're a total joke.

leng jai
11-11-2007, 09:42 AM
Stop bitching about players you dont like.
your idiot Haas didn't even make shanghai.
your hero was demolished by Crappydenko in USO. it says it all.
I'd try to be nice to you, but you're a total joke.

Oh look, a gasgay fan getting oversensitive again.

Castafiore
11-11-2007, 09:45 AM
Stop bitching about players you dont like.
Don't fuss over it. ;) He's trying to use a little bit from Glenn's success formula.

my0118
11-11-2007, 09:46 AM
Oh look, a gasgay fan getting oversensitive again.

oversensitive? you're not even like R=FK or Bad Religion. you gotta work more on that to be like them.
I don't deny him moonballing but you don't have to bash them on purpose.
Actually I don't dislike Haas but what has he actually done in two years? fail to qualify in Shanghai two years in a row?
your jerk ass needs to be bashed. you deserve it.

my0118
11-11-2007, 09:47 AM
Don't fuss over it. ;) He's trying to use a little bit from Glenn's success formula.

:)
Glenn is much better. he's not a patch on him.

Action Jackson
11-11-2007, 09:48 AM
Watching Ass picker vs Gasgay. What a fucken barrage of moonballs.

If Gasquet won today, he'd have been declared the next legend, but we know he struggles against Nadal and one more win for Nadal it's pigeon time.

Sean.J.S.
11-11-2007, 09:57 AM
If Gasquet won today, he'd have been declared the next legend, but we know he struggles against Nadal and one more win for Nadal it's pigeon time.

Pigeon time! :bolt: Gasquet really should have won today...Nadal wasn't really that convincing, as usual.

martine2
11-11-2007, 10:15 AM
Good morning :)

Sean.J.S.
11-11-2007, 10:24 AM
Hey Martine. :wavey: How are you? :p

martine2
11-11-2007, 10:27 AM
I'm fine Sean :)
Long time no see here?

Sean.J.S.
11-11-2007, 10:30 AM
Yeah...I drift in and out. :p

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 11:11 AM
where is Gu, the guy that says Ferrer has no game? ;)
he'll be probably worshiping him right now

leng jai
11-11-2007, 11:12 AM
Not sure, Gu said he needed to get off the PC for a bit. Like, as if get off the PC.

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 12:15 PM
Mia's appearance here today :haha:

Good morning.

Well Gu must be pissed at me for a moment but he isn't a person who can be pissed for too long at a friend, and I replied back so he just needs to read it.

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:17 PM
Mia's appearance here today :haha:

Good morning.

Well Gu must be pissed at me for a moment but he isn't a person who can be pissed for too long at a friend, and I replied back so he just needs to read it.

morning baby beau

I won the 2nd round 6-2 6-2, i was more generous than usual

leng jai
11-11-2007, 12:19 PM
1 game short in each set of a double bagel.

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:20 PM
6-2 6-2 IS a double bagel

leng jai
11-11-2007, 12:21 PM
Nah, 6-3 6-3

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:23 PM
Nah, 6-3 6-3

mediter has said that every score with the 2 or 3 sets with the same scoreline is a doublebagel

leng jai
11-11-2007, 12:24 PM
Well mediter is gospel. Congrats on your double bagel mate.

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:26 PM
and here's the proof :D

http://wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=11912250&postcount=33

leng jai
11-11-2007, 12:28 PM
Mediter is generous enough to spread his abstract philosophy to the WTA boards :worship:

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 12:31 PM
You are so talented and do generous Genci, dammit.

leng jai
11-11-2007, 12:33 PM
You are so talented and do generous Genci, dammit.

Gencitard :retard:

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:34 PM
You are so talented and do generous Genci, dammit.

I have so much talent that i'm thinking of selling some of it

I had some fish for lunch and bought a bottle of wine for my lonely evenings

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 12:36 PM
Oh no, it was really mediter who came up with it? What a clown.

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:38 PM
Oh no, it was really mediter who came up with it? What a clown.

if by clown you mean genious, I agree

leng jai
11-11-2007, 12:39 PM
if by clown you mean genious, I agree

If by genius you mean godlike abstract tennis philosopher, I agree.

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 12:49 PM
Gencitard :retard:
hahahahahahahahahahhaha I have "Genciholic :hearts:" on my MSN display, and once I sent a text msg to my friend who has graduated from Computer Science because my new laptop didn't want to start the system, and he replied to me that I should ask my god Genci how to handle with such problem

:haha:

Fact is, that Genci indeed helped me with his tips, this is why the new laptop works very well so far.

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:50 PM
Fact is, that Genci indeed helped me with his tips, this is why the new laptop works very well so far.

Adrian says that for Windows Vista you need 2Gb RAM to make it work properly :eek:

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 12:51 PM
I have so much talent that i'm thinking of selling some of it

I had some fish for lunch and bought a bottle of wine for my lonely evenings
We will be drinking tonight? :D

Oh damn, so much snow outside!!!

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:52 PM
We will be drinking tonight? :D

Oh damn, so much snow outside!!!

well, you can go on with vodka and me with wine

first time I was in Wroclaw it was all white

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 12:54 PM
Adrian says that for Windows Vista you need 2Gb RAM to make it work properly :eek:
I wonder what mediter says :eek:

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 12:56 PM
well, you can go on with vodka and me with wine

first time I was in Wroclaw it was all white
red whine + Genci = boner :kiss:

It is all white now :) I just need you under my Christmas Tree :D

leng jai
11-11-2007, 12:58 PM
Tommy Haas > Genci

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:59 PM
red whine + Genci = boner :kiss:

It is all white now :) I just need you under my Christmas Tree :D

alcohol has a counter effect on boners

during communism when religion was banned here we used to make a tree but we called it 'The New Year's Tree' and also we called Santa Clause 'New Year's Old Man'

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 12:59 PM
Tommy Haas > Genci

H2H 0-0, we'll never know

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 01:02 PM
In Russia they have Dyed Moroz - Grandpa Frost :haha:

Nathaliia
11-11-2007, 01:11 PM
Oh great I was added on MSN by a fake account last night btw, and posted about it here, and received a PM from a person named Yashin71 saying he has also been added by that account and if I know who that was

:haha:.

OK, I admit, Yashin71 was funny :D

scarecrows
11-11-2007, 01:13 PM
Oh great I was added on MSN by a fake account last night btw, and posted about it here, and received a PM from a person named Yashin71 saying he has also been added by that account and if I know who that was

:haha:.

OK, I admit, Yashin71 was funny :D

what did yashin say?