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Technique vs. Technology

ThePhishman
12-05-2011, 04:27 PM
I feel that it's always a tough question to answer: whether players are getting better or if it's just the technology. Naturally, racquets of today allow players to hit the ball harder than ever before and offer much more capability for achieving appropriate spin on the ball, but are players becoming better athletes now as well? All else being equal, could peak Jimmy Connors beat peak Rafa? I think not. Players have the benefit of new racquet technology, but they're also in better shape and practice better technique. Thoughts?

Henry Chinaski
12-05-2011, 06:17 PM
What do you mean by better technique?

I don't have much knowledge of the coaching side of things but I'd imagine the technical basics of swings, grips and footwork have barely changed at all. I'm open to correction here.

Players in general are more athletic nowadays no doubt. It's the same across all sports as training and nutrition become more science based.

Again though I'd say the differences are very small in tennis compared with other sports because there are so many facets of the game, such as anticipation, that are above coaching.

Sham Kay
12-05-2011, 06:47 PM
http://www.whitegadget.com/attachments/pc-wallpapers/73952d1315024311-federer-federer-wallpaper.jpg


VS


http://magnitudes.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/lacoste-future-tennis.jpg?w=390&h=292

It's a no brainer.

r2473
12-05-2011, 06:50 PM
Peak vs. Peak arguments?

Must be offseson.

samanosuke
12-05-2011, 06:53 PM
16 > 10

SetSampras
12-05-2011, 07:24 PM
Technique, Strategic play, precision with lesser racket technology is FAR more impressive then today's nonsense where guys just run around the baseline, banging the crap out of the ball with no rhyme or reason.

Gamesampras
12-05-2011, 08:59 PM
Technique, Strategic play, precision with lesser racket technology is FAR more impressive then today's nonsense where guys just run around the baseline, banging the crap out of the ball with no rhyme or reason.

It is a shame to see tennis being played today with hardly any strategy or tactics. Everyone just goes out and hits from the baseline. I don't want to hear any bullshit about the court speed and racquet technology playing a factor in why players just stay on the baseline and swing away like they are on crack ice cocaine!

SetSampras
12-05-2011, 09:02 PM
It is a shame to see tennis being played today with hardly any strategy or tactics. Everyone just goes out and hits from the baseline. I don't want to hear any bullshit about the court speed and racquet technology playing a factor in why players just stay on the baseline and swing away like they are on crack ice cocaine!

The trust cannot be attached.. James has no ASSETS.. He is legally severed from his family.

Gamesampras
12-05-2011, 09:10 PM
http://youtu.be/IT5rVppyVxw

Dougie
12-05-2011, 09:15 PM
It is a shame to see tennis being played today with hardly any strategy or tactics. Everyone just goes out and hits from the baseline. I don't want to hear any bullshit about the court speed and racquet technology playing a factor in why players just stay on the baseline and swing away like they are on crack ice cocaine!

It it possible to play tactical tennis from the baseline as well, you know...

Gamesampras
12-05-2011, 09:22 PM
It it possible to play tactical tennis from the baseline as well, you know...

Hope we see some of it in Australia

mark73
12-05-2011, 09:28 PM
http://youtu.be/IT5rVppyVxw

Are you two twins or the same person?

abraxas21
12-05-2011, 09:32 PM
setsampras making a double account and talking to himself... how this guy didnt win the ACC is beyond my comprehension

Gamesampras
12-05-2011, 09:32 PM
Twins.

helvet empire
12-05-2011, 09:34 PM
technique:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Roger_Federer_-_US_Open_2006.jpg/170px-Roger_Federer_-_US_Open_2006.jpg

technology:
http://i15.tinypic.com/89rwcna.jpg

scarecrows
12-05-2011, 09:35 PM
always had a feeling SS was a troll account

DrJules
12-05-2011, 10:02 PM
always had a feeling SS was a troll account

Imagine Sapoed ("Murray"), Nole Fan ("Djokovic") or Start da Game ("Nadal") multiplying.:lol::lol::lol:

Say 3 of each.:lol::lol::lol:

SetSampras
12-05-2011, 10:15 PM
setsampras making a double account and talking to himself... how this guy didnt win the ACC is beyond my comprehension

Nope.. Sorry.. not a double account. I swear to god. . There are other Sampras fans in the world ya know

Roadmap
12-05-2011, 11:08 PM
SetSampras definitely knows this other guy in real life. Not technically a double account but may as well be ;) Connors would have been a beast with modern racquets. That is my opinion from the footage I have seen of him.

paseo
12-05-2011, 11:36 PM
"SetSampras", "GameSampras"... I can't wait for "MatchSampras".

stewietennis
12-06-2011, 02:03 AM
This comparison is the same as saying "Reading vs Technology", it's apples and oranges.

I think you're confusing playing style with technique. Pretty much all tennis players are taught the same technique when starting out. Some, like Federer, are talented enough to do everything well. Others play to their strengths and tailor their games to suit their physical limitations, personal preference, surface specialisations, to be different… etc. What sets Federer apart from the Nadal, Novak, Murray and the rest is that he does a lot of things well. Hitting from the baseline in an offensive/defensive manner requires no less technique than hitting a volley or lob or serve or drop shot, if there was no technique the balls would fly all over the place or you'd miss altogether or it would be a badminton shot screaming for a smash.

Topspindoctor
12-06-2011, 02:08 AM
16 > 10

Yet another parrot trolling a decent topic because there might be some threat to a player whose feet his kisses. :o

Mountaindewslave
12-06-2011, 02:25 AM
It is a shame to see tennis being played today with hardly any strategy or tactics. Everyone just goes out and hits from the baseline. I don't want to hear any bullshit about the court speed and racquet technology playing a factor in why players just stay on the baseline and swing away like they are on crack ice cocaine!

why did Setsampras make such an obvious double account? is this allowed???

and of course it's probably a combination of both. any skill, even if techonology does not improve, tactics do. players today are in better shape, have better nutrition habits, and know more than ever about how to hit angles and how to end rallies and improve the serve and so on and so forth.

but there is no denying the racquets today and furthermore, the strings today, make it much easier to hit 'big' and go for it than in the past. not to mention the insane spin that is now possible for the likes of tennis players (the guy on my sig in particular)

tests
12-06-2011, 03:22 AM
It is a shame to see tennis being played today with hardly any strategy or tactics. Everyone just goes out and hits from the baseline. I don't want to hear any bullshit about the court speed and racquet technology playing a factor in why players just stay on the baseline and swing away like they are on crack ice cocaine!

LMAO setsampras made another account!

Mountaindewslave
12-06-2011, 05:47 AM
LMAO setsampras made another account!

it's quite embarassing that he would bother............... I suppose he was getting lonely being the only poster on this site who did not realize or recognize the fact that Sampras retired long ago....

leng jai
12-06-2011, 06:01 AM
Its a valid topic actually talking about tennis and making a few double accounts to create some posting traffic is a genius idea.

SetSampras
12-06-2011, 06:10 AM
Epic fail to those thinking I actually created a double account.. Pure nonsense.

VolandriFan
12-06-2011, 06:15 AM
'Technique' involves manipulating current 'technolgy' to best advantage yourself.

leng jai
12-06-2011, 06:18 AM
'Technique' involves manipulating current 'technolgy' to best advantage yourself.

Yes but 'technology' is designed in a way that reduces the amount of 'technique' required in most cases.

ThePhishman
12-06-2011, 03:17 PM
Alright so a lot of people have weighed in on the specifics of the argument, but no one is really taking a strong stance here. All in all are players better now they were before? Assuming a 1960,70,80s player and a 2000s player have the same racquet, does one have a distinct advantage over the other?

Hellraiser
12-06-2011, 03:40 PM
It's sad to say but it's Technology

buzz
12-06-2011, 04:03 PM
I think the top players now are fitter, faster and have further perfected the techniques they use.

In every other sport where there are time or distance records we can see that on average the results improve in time. The training and conditioning just evolves (sort of survival of the fittest:))

Sham Kay
12-06-2011, 04:10 PM
Technique and technology are beginning to go hand in hand. Players are having to develop their techniques to suit the advancing racquet technology. Players like Nadal adapted their technique into a mould that wouldn't have been possible in years gone, but works wonders due to how things are currently. There's no luck there.. pretty smart thinking really.

In laments terms, technique is and will always be the crucial aspect, however greatly technology advances the sport. Much like how natural animal instinct will never be overtaken by the evolution of technology. Rawr.

Dr.Slice
12-06-2011, 04:21 PM
Imagine Sapoed ("Murray"), Nole Fan ("Djokovic") or Start da Game ("Nadal") multiplying.:lol::lol::lol:

Say 3 of each.:lol::lol::lol:

Just the thought of that is scary.

Epic fail to those thinking I actually created a double account.. Pure nonsense.

Maybe it was your boyfriend?

abraxas21
12-06-2011, 04:49 PM
"SetSampras", "GameSampras"... I can't wait for "MatchSampras".

that would be one hell of a powerful troll.

i've lowered my expectations and i'm just waiting for the little brother, PointSampras.

Time Violation
12-06-2011, 05:32 PM
i've lowered my expectations and i'm just waiting for the little brother, PointSampras.

:haha:

Nole Rules
12-06-2011, 05:35 PM
that would be one hell of a powerful troll.

i've lowered my expectations and i'm just waiting for the little brother, PointSampras.

:spit:

ThePhishman
12-06-2011, 06:15 PM
haven't seen gamesampras weigh in on this issue yet...

stewietennis
12-06-2011, 08:28 PM
It's sad to say but it's Technology

Why is it sad? Technology evolves and as such techniques must be changed to adapt. If a modern Formula 1 driver was so enamoured with the 1959 Alfa Romeo 159, so much so that he drives his 2008 Ferrari the same way, he's not going to get good results. Same with tennis.

ThePhishman
12-07-2011, 02:23 PM
Just read an interesting article claiming that the biggest change in modern tennis has been in the bio-mechanics of players.

Tennis Technology (http://blog.ussportsinstitute.com/2011/11/tennis-technique-vs-technology.html)