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DC 2011 Final: Ferrer def. Del Potro 6-2 6-7(2) 3-6 6-4 6-3

solowyn
12-02-2011, 09:09 PM
Ferru :worship: :worship: Just too fit for Delpo.

Sucks for us since the tie is basically over for Argentina but I was chuffed to see Ferrer so happy at this tough win. Great match.

Pirata.
12-02-2011, 09:10 PM
Ferrer is the best Spanish Davis Cup player ever. Just too good.

Smoke944
12-02-2011, 09:10 PM
Del Potro was playing brilliantly. Then, for reasons I can't discern, he decided to start DFing on every BP. Great strategy, this.

SetSampras
12-02-2011, 09:10 PM
Yea Delpo has to work on the fitness still.

Is Nalbandian playing? We got two guys on Argentina who have the cardiovascular system of Oprah

green25814
12-02-2011, 09:10 PM
Ferrer too tough, NID really

nsidhan
12-02-2011, 09:10 PM
I KNEW this would go 5 sets. But I thought Pony would win.

Good job Ferru.

Ibracadabra
12-02-2011, 09:10 PM
Good effort from juan. Given he hasn't played in awhile it's understandable how he fell apart in the 5th physically

iramlatif
12-02-2011, 09:11 PM
I'm sooooooo frickin' happy!! :) Can't wait for them to pick up the cup again.
Congrats both Rafa and Ferru

nsidhan
12-02-2011, 09:11 PM
Argentina might as well pack their bags and go home. This tie is OVA!

samanosuke
12-02-2011, 09:11 PM
Ferrer is last guy from whom I would want to take something but after watching 4+ hours match you fell somehow cheated when better player loses but that's it how it is . Go Delpo in the store and buy few kilos of stamina, or even better stay away from Nalby

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:12 PM
Does Ferrer ever get tired? he's 30, he's played 3 tournaments in November and yet he was running like Usain Bolt after 4hours.

Andre♥
12-02-2011, 09:12 PM
Adios, Argentina!

Great match, close but a Ferrer win was never in doubt. No way an Argentinian player would win a close contest on a Davis Cup final...

Roamed
12-02-2011, 09:12 PM
Poor Delpo :sad:

KaiserT
12-02-2011, 09:13 PM
Does Ferrer ever get tired? he's 30, he's played 3 tournaments in November and yet he was running like Usain Bolt after 4hours.

Also smokes a healthy amount of cigarettes.

Those Spanish, eh....

viruzzz
12-02-2011, 09:13 PM
u__u...

Not this again.

Well. Ferrer played like a God. He's a hell of a player, with a very deserved ranking.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 09:13 PM
Argentina might as well pack their bags and go home. This tie is OVA!

Do they really care? Nalbandian did prepare 6 months this Final without playing an event and then he doesnt even play. :lol:

Andre♥
12-02-2011, 09:13 PM
Does Ferrer ever get tired? he's 30, he's played 3 tournaments in November and yet he was running like Usain Bolt after 4hours.

That's something called good fitness. Del Potro should try it one of these days. It could work very well for him.

Pirata.
12-02-2011, 09:13 PM
Does Ferrer ever get tired? he's 30, he's played 3 tournaments in November and yet he was running like Usain Bolt after 4hours.

Commentator was saying that after he beat Djokovic at WTF last week, Ferrer was back in the gym an hour later running on the treadmill to prepare for the match against Berdych.

Start da Game
12-02-2011, 09:14 PM
disappointing stuff from d pot in sets 4 and 5.......what pathetic fitness level......

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 09:14 PM
Pics, what a legend. Nothing can dampen this little fighter's spirits so it seems. Great performance, and how happy he was after that victory! :bounce: :hearts:

I see no come-back for Argentina possible anymore, even though I root for Spain it makes me feel a bit sad to know that Argentina's chances are close to zilch on the first day of the final already. :o
I would have liked to see the competition a bit tighter but alas it wasn't to be. I can well see Spain grabbing this title 5-0 now unless some Spanish player feels a bit of mercy on their opponents in the final rubber. :angel:

Poor JMDP. Such a great player at times, but somehow you could just feel he'd collapse in the 4rth set, and be done in the 5th. As I didn't watch all of the match, I guess it was a matter of lacking stamina most of all? I did watch the first three sets and he looked pretty good there, apart of some scary batches of inconsistency. Poor fellow, this must hurt a lot... :hug:

manadrainer
12-02-2011, 09:14 PM
Hand Spain the trophy already...

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:15 PM
Commentator was saying that after he beat Djokovic at WTF last week, Ferrer was back in the gym an hour later running on the treadmill to prepare for the match against Berdych.

Ferrer's a beast.

Egreen
12-02-2011, 09:15 PM
What a fighter Pics is. Imagine if he didn't smoke. :eek:

Smoke944
12-02-2011, 09:16 PM
Also smokes a healthy amount of cigarettes.

Those Spanish, eh....

:lol:

Sonja1989
12-02-2011, 09:16 PM
Vamos Ferru, you king of Davis Cup!! :worship:

Spain!! :woohoo:



DelPo :hug: :hug:

finishingmove
12-02-2011, 09:16 PM
guess what 2-0 spain huehue

SetSampras
12-02-2011, 09:16 PM
Im telling ya.. DelPo has the goods to make a big run to the top next year. He pretty much has his game back aside from the fitness but hell even slam surfaces are faster then this Davis Cup clay.

He gets back to top shape he is a force to be reckoned with

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 09:16 PM
Nadal prepared Davis Cup final by hiring Professional actor Novak Djokovic to teach him emotions he did show us today.

!VamosRafa!
12-02-2011, 09:17 PM
Ferrer, what a fighter :worship:

I'm honestly petrified of Del Potro, Rafa doesn't stand a chance :bigcry:

solowyn
12-02-2011, 09:17 PM
Commentator was saying that after he beat Djokovic at WTF last week, Ferrer was back in the gym an hour later running on the treadmill to prepare for the match against Berdych.
What a legend.

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:18 PM
Also smokes a healthy amount of cigarettes.

Those Spanish, eh....

Is this for real, he actually smokes? :eek:

green25814
12-02-2011, 09:18 PM
Cmon guys, David Ferrer doesn't 'smoke'. Maybe one every now and then, but nothing more.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 09:18 PM
It is known in future that smoking improves your fitness.

fran70
12-02-2011, 09:18 PM
Spain has a much better than Argentina (or any other country too) on clay courts. Nothing to say than congrats to the Spanish fans. This DC tie almost cooked.

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 09:18 PM
What a fighter Pics is. Imagine if he didn't smoke. :eek:

The fact that he does makes him even more of a legend imho. Vamos! :smoke: :worship:

PS SetSampras, hope you don't mind I nicked that picture for my avvy. :D

Nole Rules
12-02-2011, 09:19 PM
Ferrer, what a fighter :worship:

I'm honestly petrified of Del Potro, Rafa doesn't stand a chance :bigcry:

:facepalm:

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:19 PM
Im telling ya.. DelPo has the goods to make a big run to the top next year. He pretty much has his game back aside from the fitness but hell even slam surfaces are faster then this Davis Cup clay.

He gets back to top shape he is a force to be reckoned with

Bang on the money.

SetSampras
12-02-2011, 09:20 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/ngt3td.jpg

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:20 PM
Ferrer ranks alongside Carlos Monzon as fittest ever smoking sportsman.

KaiserT
12-02-2011, 09:21 PM
Is this for real, he actually smokes? :eek:

Cmon guys, David Ferrer doesn't 'smoke'. Maybe one every now and then, but nothing more.

He's a confirmed smoker, and has been for some time. Don't know how many a day and I'd guess you don't either, probably safe to assume he isn't on 40 a day though, sure :lol:

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:21 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/ngt3td.jpg

he means business, especially with a couple of cigarettes on the go. It really gets him into the role as the smokin' assassin. Here especially he looks so suave and cool, what a champ.

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:21 PM
That's something called good fitness. Del Potro should try it one of these days. It could work very well for him.

Good fitness? Can you name another grinder in the history of the game that was running this fast so late in his carreer? Wilander was burned out by the age of 24.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:22 PM
He's a confirmed smoker, and has been for some time. Don't know how many a day and I'd guess you don't either, probably safe to assume he isn't on 40 a day though, sure :lol:

No, no, no, it's roughly 32.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:23 PM
Good fitness? Can you name another grinder in the history of the game that was running this fast so late in his carreer? Wilander was burned out by the age of 24.

Ferrer's a boss, dude, deal with it.

Voo de Mar
12-02-2011, 09:24 PM
The tie is actually finished :o LopDasco should give Nadal a favor and lose tomorrow to give him an opportunity to clinch the Davis Cup triumph for the first time :cool:

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:25 PM
Ferrer's a boss, dude, deal with it.

BTW what happened to mental giant? he choke so bad 4-5 in the 4th.

juan27
12-02-2011, 09:25 PM
No, no, no, it's roughly 32.

the worst rival of del potro in his body or physicall condition.

he play beatiful agressive tennis but in clay with his body , it`s imposible againts a physicall prodigy like ferrer or nadal

Action Jackson
12-02-2011, 09:25 PM
Brilliant stuff from Ferrer. He has cut down on the smoking actually.

Stick the fork in Argentina sadly.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:26 PM
BTW what happened to mental giant? he choke so bad 4-5 in the 4th.

Everybody knows that Del Potro is mentally the strongest sportsman to have ever been born, get with the times.

KaiserT
12-02-2011, 09:26 PM
Del Potro's transition game let him down.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 09:27 PM
Del Potro's transition game let him down.

Another analyzing failure, come on, stop when you dont have skill.

Fitness cost him not the way he plays.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:27 PM
the worst rival of del potro in his body or physicall condition.

he play beatiful agressive tennis but in clay with his body , it`s imposible againts a physicall prodigy like ferrer or nadal

Indeed, some of hist shot-making was brutal, yet poetic. In the end though Ferrer showed the greater physical conditioning, was rock solid and was clutch during some very important moments. I thought it was a very enjoyable match.

samanosuke
12-02-2011, 09:28 PM
Ferrer when playing well is nightmare for big hitters . you can't go through him, specially on clay . only way how to beat him is out-moonball him, specially with high looping balls on BH like Nadal is doing or beat him with variety like Fed is doing . Through him, not in my book

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:28 PM
Everybody knows that Del Potro is mentally the strongest sportsman to have ever been born, get with the times.

But I could have swron I saw Del Potro hit a vey eassy FH in the net and then double faulted to give Ferrer the 4th set?:scratch:

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:29 PM
But I could have swron I saw Del Potro hit a vey eassy FH in the net and then double faulted to give Ferrer the set?:scratch:

:haha:

You don't get it, do you...


samanosuke -

Ferrer is like a ninja; always there in good time and with incredible efficiency. He gets the job done matrix style.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 09:29 PM
But I could have swron I saw Del Potro hit a vey eassy FH in the net and then double faulted to give Ferrer the set?:scratch:

Thats because fitness you dumb fucks, fitness overpowers mental.

You cant run with one leg even if you have strong will. :lol:

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:31 PM
Thats because fitness you dumb fucks, fitness overpowers mental.

You cant run with one leg even if you have strong will. :lol:

4-5, 15-40 in the 4th set. Del Potro hits an ace. Next point he hits a DF. What happened did he lost too much energy in between the points?:o

peRfect-Tennis
12-02-2011, 09:31 PM
Ferrer isn't exactly a world beater, Del Po should be winning these types of matches..

KaiserT
12-02-2011, 09:32 PM
Another analyzing failure, come on, stop when you dont have skill.

Fitness cost him not the way he plays.

A clown like you talking to me about analysing skill.... fucking hilarious.

Sure, fitness also cost him but that's been widely mentioned so far in this thread.

Del Potro's lack of a solid transition game (or at least the intent to force himself to net in appropriate moments) was certainly a big factor in his loss as far as I'm concerned. And slogging it out all day from the back vs a tireless wall was always going to leave him in trouble if it went 5.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:32 PM
Thats because fitness you dumb fucks, fitness overpowers mental.

You cant run with one leg even if you have strong will. :lol:

Good point. However, if Del Potro had been mentally stronger at the end of the fourth set i.e. not giving away breaks, then the fitness issue could have been bypassed altogether. To not recognize this as a valid angle of argument would be incredibly asinine, I'm sure you would agree.

MariaV
12-02-2011, 09:33 PM
The tie is actually finished :o LopDasco should give Nadal a favor and lose tomorrow to give him an opportunity to clinch the Davis Cup triumph for the first time :cool:

LOL Lopdasco will most probably lose tomorrow.

And haven't you dudes seen those quit smoking ads with Ferru? :o I doubt he has quit smoking though.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 09:33 PM
4-5, 15-40 in the 4th set. Del Potro hits an ace. Next point he hits a DF. What happened did he lost too much energy in between the points?:o

No, he was already down in fitness before that.

SetSampras
12-02-2011, 09:33 PM
FerrerMug is only going to be a nightmare to the opposition who have poor conditioning as Delpo has right now. Ferrer just pushes ball back into play until the opponent gets tired.. Thats not impressive. Nor was that putrid serving

jonathancrane
12-02-2011, 09:33 PM
Ferrer is the biggest fighter on tour, the real spartan :worship:

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:34 PM
Ferrer is the biggest fighter on tour, the real spartan :worship:

Exactly! The effort he put forth after donning some pink against Berdych in the third set of their last RR match at the WTFinals is a testament to this.

Ferrer is a BOSS.

Kat_YYZ
12-02-2011, 09:34 PM
says it all...
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/05/fullj.c568a607f6d0fd52fb22f1ea25a90211/c568a607f6d0fd52fb22f1ea25a90211-getty-507548374.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b1/fullj.4b502ef1afcc453734bdf31755d1380d/4b502ef1afcc453734bdf31755d1380d-getty-507548373.jpg

misty1
12-02-2011, 09:35 PM
some unpredictability would have been nice here

everyone under the sun knew how this was more than likely going to go when these 2 countries made the final but you still hoped you were wrong

hopefully argentina wins the doubles tommorrow and makes things somewhat interesting

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:35 PM
Del Potro shoud start smoking.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 09:36 PM
says it all...
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/05/fullj.c568a607f6d0fd52fb22f1ea25a90211/c568a607f6d0fd52fb22f1ea25a90211-getty-507548374.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b1/fullj.4b502ef1afcc453734bdf31755d1380d/4b502ef1afcc453734bdf31755d1380d-getty-507548373.jpg

Your point is? Handshake happened seconds after this. Stop making drama over nothing.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:37 PM
Your point is? Handshake happened seconds after this. Stop making drama over nothing.

I think the point is something that -- quite ludicrously -- you have missed. The point which you missed is the apparent levels of fatigue of the two combatants. I hope everything is clear and pristine now, rubbERR.

Roadmap
12-02-2011, 09:37 PM
says it all...
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/05/fullj.c568a607f6d0fd52fb22f1ea25a90211/c568a607f6d0fd52fb22f1ea25a90211-getty-507548374.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b1/fullj.4b502ef1afcc453734bdf31755d1380d/4b502ef1afcc453734bdf31755d1380d-getty-507548373.jpg

Wow, Del Potro has such big arms. I know he is very tall but that does not guarantee big arms.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 09:38 PM
I think the point is something that, quite ludicrously, you have missed. The point which you missed is the apparent levels of fatigue of the two combatants. I hope everything is clear and pristine now, rubbERR.

You cant see the point when you dont create the point, failure of post.

Voo de Mar
12-02-2011, 09:38 PM
Wow, Del Potro has such big arms. I know he is very tall but that does not guarantee big arms.

Also Benneteau has exceptionally long arms.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:39 PM
You cant see the point when you dont create the point, failure of post.

Get out of my fridge, rubberman. I'm happy to have been able to clarify the point for you and may you learn and indeed go forward. Allez and godspeed.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:39 PM
Wow, Del Potro has such big arms. I know he is very tall but that does not guarantee big arms.

'Thick Legs' Murray and 'Long Arms' del Potro.

Kat_YYZ
12-02-2011, 09:40 PM
Your point is? Handshake happened seconds after this. Stop making drama over nothing.

:confused: my point was Del Po was gassed...
what did you think my point was?

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:41 PM
:confused: my point was Del Po was gassed...
what did you think my point was?

RubbERR's fail is now emphatically confirmed.

Pirata.
12-02-2011, 09:43 PM
And haven't you dudes seen those quit smoking ads with Ferru? :o I doubt he has quit smoking though.

Link? :lol:

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 09:45 PM
says it all...
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/05/fullj.c568a607f6d0fd52fb22f1ea25a90211/c568a607f6d0fd52fb22f1ea25a90211-getty-507548374.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b1/fullj.4b502ef1afcc453734bdf31755d1380d/4b502ef1afcc453734bdf31755d1380d-getty-507548373.jpg

Awwww... JMDP... :sad: :hug:

Link? :lol:

You know how it is with folks that claim to have kicked the habit?

Most often, they haven't. :o

juan27
12-02-2011, 09:45 PM
argentina needs the same bubbles than nadal and spanish team has

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:46 PM
Awwww... JMDP... :sad: :hug:



You know how it is with folks that claim to have kicked the habit?

Most often, they haven't. :o

I love that you've immediately respected the awesome quality of that suave smoking Ferrer photo and already have it up as your avatar!! It is golden :D

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 09:48 PM
I love that you've immediately respected the awesome quality of that suave smoking Ferrer photo and already have it up as your avatar!! It is golden :D

:D - I asked SetSampras if he's got a problem with me nicking it as an avvy, I hope he doesn't - it's golden indeed. Pics! :worship:

tennishero
12-02-2011, 09:49 PM
I feel bad for delpo... he should have won in 4, he had all the momentum, but I feel even worst for nalbandian... another davis cup slips right from him, this time he didnt even get to play.

Kat_YYZ
12-02-2011, 09:49 PM
okay... now someone tell me what is the significance of the bat on Ferrer's shorts?? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/tiere/animal-smiley-020.gif

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 09:50 PM
okay... now someone tell me what is the significance of the bat on Ferrer's shorts?? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/tiere/animal-smiley-020.gif

Well noticed, I asked myself that as well!
Kinda liked it, personally. Bats are awesome creatures. :worship:

TBkeeper
12-02-2011, 09:50 PM
Does Ferrer ever get tired? he's 30, he's played 3 tournaments in November and yet he was running like Usain Bolt after 4hours.

Just like Davy bro ... just like Davy :)

shotgun
12-02-2011, 09:51 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/ngt3td.jpg

:worship:

Pirata.
12-02-2011, 09:52 PM
okay... now someone tell me what is the significance of the bat on Ferrer's shorts?? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/tiere/animal-smiley-020.gif

Well noticed, I asked myself that as well!
Kinda liked it, personally. Bats are awesome creatures. :worship:

It is part of the coat of arms of Valencia, his home province :)

http://www.holavalencia.net/img/escudo.png
http://globexsvalencia.blogspot.com/2011/05/whats-up-with-bat.html

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:53 PM
okay... now someone tell me what is the significance of the bat on Ferrer's shorts?? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/tiere/animal-smiley-020.gif

He's from Valencia.

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 09:53 PM
It is part of the coat of arms of Valencia, his home province :)

http://www.holavalencia.net/img/escudo.png

Thanks! Pretty awesome. Must visit Valencia one day, can't be a bad bat place to be. :D

shotgun
12-02-2011, 09:53 PM
I feel bad for delpo... he should have won in 4, he had all the momentum, but I feel even worst for nalbandian... another davis cup slips right from him, this time he didnt even get to play.

He will play tomorrow at least. Hope he can bring this tie just a bit of excitement.

Har-Tru
12-02-2011, 09:54 PM
Nice.

nole_no1
12-02-2011, 09:54 PM
What a pity...
Del potro put on a good fight but he didn't have any gas left in the tank for the decider :(

alter ego
12-02-2011, 09:54 PM
Just like Davy bro ... just like Davy :)

No, davy is an attacking player who keeps the points short. Ferrer is a grinder he runs for every ball lile a madman.
Besides davy's footwork has decline massivley this year.

Johnny Groove
12-02-2011, 09:57 PM
Now we have to hope the Argies win the doubles and Delpo beats Nadal and Dave beats Pics.

3-2 Argentina.

Henry Chinaski
12-02-2011, 09:57 PM
A clown like you talking to me about analysing skill.... fucking hilarious.

Sure, fitness also cost him but that's been widely mentioned so far in this thread.

Del Potro's lack of a solid transition game (or at least the intent to force himself to net in appropriate moments) was certainly a big factor in his loss as far as I'm concerned. And slogging it out all day from the back vs a tireless wall was always going to leave him in trouble if it went 5.

true

worst display of transition tennis I've ever seen in my life

just hideous decision making

Har-Tru
12-02-2011, 09:58 PM
It is part of the coat of arms of Valencia, his home province :)

http://www.holavalencia.net/img/escudo.png

Actually he was born in Xŕbia/Jávea, which is in the province of Alicante, but he's lived in Valencia for many years now.

The bat is the mascot of Valencia. According to the legend, the Christian Catalan king James I was resting with his exhausted troops outside of moorish-controlled Valencia in 1238, waiting for a sign from God to attack and try to conquer the city, when a bat flew over his head and posed itself on the banner (the red and yellow striped flag, which also has a legendary story behind it). They attacked, reconquered the city and adopted the bat as the city's animal.

MatchFederer
12-02-2011, 09:59 PM
Now we have to hope the Argies win the doubles and Delpo beats Nadal and Dave beats Pics.

3-2 Argentina.

I *suppose* it's a possibility.

Kat_YYZ
12-02-2011, 10:00 PM
thanks for bat story everyone :wavey:
Vamos batman :lol:

Action Jackson
12-02-2011, 10:01 PM
Now we have to hope the Argies win the doubles and Delpo beats Nadal and Dave beats Pics.

3-2 Argentina.

Dreams are free.

samanosuke
12-02-2011, 10:02 PM
Delpo won't be able to stand on his feet at Sunday :lol:

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 10:02 PM
A clown like you talking to me about analysing skill.... fucking hilarious.

Sure, fitness also cost him but that's been widely mentioned so far in this thread.

Del Potro's lack of a solid transition game (or at least the intent to force himself to net in appropriate moments) was certainly a big factor in his loss as far as I'm concerned. And slogging it out all day from the back vs a tireless wall was always going to leave him in trouble if it went 5.

I have never been analyzing because its pointless, im not journalist, i dont write articles, so i dont need to analyze. Im not Coach either, so what for do i need analyze?

Instead of doing pointless analyzing i study in real life... 5 days of week to get better education and to beat crap out of brainless people like you, thank you.

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 10:04 PM
thanks for bat story everyone :wavey:
Vamos batman :lol:

David Pics Batman Ferrer. I like it. :worship:

Mr.Michael
12-02-2011, 10:05 PM
Such a shame. If Delpo could have done it, this would have been very open.

Well, there's always next year and a possible rematch in the final. This time in Argentina. I'm pretty sure Argentina will be in the final in 2012.

KaiserT
12-02-2011, 10:06 PM
I have never been analyzing because its pointless, im not journalist, i dont write articles, so i dont need to analyze. Im not Coach either, so what for do i need analyze?

Instead of doing pointless analyzing i study in real life, 5 days of week to get better education and to beat crap out of brainless people like you, thank you.

I studied in real life and then decided to make a (good) living partly based on my tennis analysis.

I'm thrilled that you are empowering yourself.

An education only goes so far... by the way.

Pirata.
12-02-2011, 10:07 PM
David Pics Batman Ferrer. I like it. :worship:

:worship:

Or Batman Pics Ferrer :smoke:

guga2120
12-02-2011, 10:07 PM
Easily one of the best matches all year. Ferrer.:yeah::) What a warrior.

So great also to see a match like this in a big setting on a real clay court, after the debacle of Roland Garros this year.

coonster14
12-02-2011, 10:09 PM
:sad: for Delpo, I really wanted him to win this one, not looking good at all for Argentina now.

Pics :yeah:, what a tireless human baseline wall he is, well-deserved win.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 10:10 PM
Crowd in all Davis Cup matches is worth of 500x facepalms... Davis Cup is a freaking Zoo.

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 10:15 PM
Fitting that you'd like bats.

Of course, as a biologist, I have some pretty interesting knowledge about these fantastic animals.

No surprise that you don't. ;)

shotgun
12-02-2011, 10:22 PM
Such a shame. If Delpo could have done it, this would have been very open.

Well, there's always next year and a possible rematch in the final. This time in Argentina. I'm pretty sure Argentina will be in the final in 2012.

It would be even harder without Nalbandian around (he will possibly retire next year).

Crowd in all Davis Cup matches is worth of 500x facepalms... Davis Cup is a freaking Zoo.

Why bother watching it at all if you don't appreciate the atmosphere?

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 10:24 PM
atmosphere is right from zoo, im sure players agree with it. Human's falling level of drunken monkey.

Why i watch it? to get some mental torturing.

shotgun
12-02-2011, 10:25 PM
atmosphere is right from zoo, im sure players agree with it. Human's falling level of drunken monkey.

A lot of players thrive on this kind of atmosphere actually. Nalbandian one of them.

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 10:26 PM
A lot of players thrive on this kind of atmosphere actually. Nalbandian one of them.

Argentinian group looked flat uninterested today, Davis Cup is all talk because of sponsors. Its a show, just like Formula One.

I doubt Nalby truly cares

jayjay
12-02-2011, 10:34 PM
Argentinian group looked flat uninterested today, Davis Cup is all talk because of sponsors. Its a show, just like Formula One.

I doubt Nalby truly cares

Oh my goodness.

v-money
12-02-2011, 10:35 PM
Congrats Pics. Great fight and emotion out there.

I really put aside the Argentina vs Spain matchup and just really wanted to see Ferrer beat Delpo.

henke007
12-02-2011, 10:36 PM
Delpo
http://skalman.sydsvenskan-img.se/sydsvenskan/52bec8f91b66975a0e7d524aa0fef397/704/396/archive/00999/robinsjuk_999109a.jpg

BEBE91
12-02-2011, 10:36 PM
Great fight from ferrer, he is easily the fittest player on tour. I have heard that he runs 10 km in 35 minutes.

Ibracadabra
12-02-2011, 10:38 PM
They care, delpo was crying.

Pirata.
12-02-2011, 10:43 PM
Argentinian group looked flat uninterested today, Davis Cup is all talk because of sponsors. Its a show, just like Formula One.

I doubt Nalby truly cares

:stupid:

TMJordan
12-02-2011, 10:49 PM
*** you **** del p****

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 10:50 PM
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=1427940&s=tenis/copadavis2011&type=story

Ferru says he played best match of his career and won because he is better physical shape than Delpo.

Sunset of Age
12-02-2011, 10:50 PM
They care, delpo was crying.

I thought I saw that as well, he was sobbing in his towel after the match.
One must truly have a heart of stone not to be moved when seeing that. :sad: :o

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 10:54 PM
Delpo was crying of course because it was so close of a match and he lost, not because it was Davis Cup final.

Its all show folks, all show. TRROROLLL. :lol:

GOAT = Fed
12-02-2011, 10:59 PM
Ferrer showed amazing determination and grit to win this rubber.

Spain have basically one hand on the trophy.

I sooo much wanted to see a competitive Nadal/Del Potro match :sad:

MIMIC
12-02-2011, 11:00 PM
Man, I wanted del Potro to win :( Great effort by both guys, though.

But those DFs on break points (and one was a set point). That sucks

rubbERR
12-02-2011, 11:01 PM
Just because he lost doesnt mean he cant make it competitive against Nadal. Every match, every tournament, every ball is different.

Just ask James Blake who won and lost against same guy, in same tournament, and same weekend. :lol:

guga2120
12-02-2011, 11:03 PM
They care, delpo was crying.

Of course he cares, to alot of players, DC is almost as important as winning a slam. JMDP also cried when he beat Nole a few months ago in DC.

abraxas21
12-02-2011, 11:07 PM
Does Ferrer ever get tired? he's 30, he's played 3 tournaments in November and yet he was running like Usain Bolt after 4hours.

yeah, it's always surprising to see how spanish players never seem to get tired.

curious...

GOAT = Fed
12-02-2011, 11:09 PM
What a fighter Pics is. Imagine if he didn't smoke. :eek:

Whoa!! Ferrer smokes? :confused:

guga2120
12-02-2011, 11:10 PM
yeah, it's always surprising to see how spanish players never seem to get tired.

curious...

:yeah:

Great post as always.

GOAT = Fed
12-02-2011, 11:15 PM
:yeah:

Great post as always.
:yeah:

Extremely poor post as usual.

Geo
12-02-2011, 11:17 PM
Ferrer was able to grind down Del Potro :shrug: It's what Ferrer does.

Shirogane
12-02-2011, 11:37 PM
I'm happy for Ferrer, but also disappointed as I wanted them to split the matches today...

Delpo :hug:

Chase Visa
12-02-2011, 11:46 PM
Argentinian group looked flat uninterested today, Davis Cup is all talk because of sponsors. Its a show, just like Formula One.

I doubt Nalby truly cares

:facepalm:

gaitare
12-03-2011, 12:05 AM
Barf. I couldn''t even watch it. Well played, Ferru.

Topspindoctor
12-03-2011, 12:14 AM
Good for the game. You can always count on Ferrer's consistency to outplay a brainless ball basher like Del Mugtro.

rubbERR
12-03-2011, 12:24 AM
Good for the game. You can always count on Ferrer's consistency to outplay a brainless ball basher like Del Mugtro.

You are the most repetitive piece of sh't i have ever seen in my life any forums, you repeat and repeat, dont you ever get tired?

Topspindoctor
12-03-2011, 12:26 AM
You are the most repetitive piece of sh't i have ever seen in my life any forums, you repeat and repeat, dont you ever get tired?

:baby::baby:

I enjoy making clowns like you mad :D

rubbERR
12-03-2011, 12:28 AM
:baby::baby:

I enjoy making clowns like you mad :D

Its not like you do it on purpose. You are just extremely stupid human being and yes, i hate stupid people.

tektonac
12-03-2011, 12:47 AM
delpo is done.

juan27
12-03-2011, 12:52 AM
Good for the game. You can always count on Ferrer's consistency to outplay a brainless ball basher like Del Mugtro.

I prefer the good and agressive tennis that the physicall tennis and nothing more,

del ptro has gs and semis in rg , ferrer not.

good for the game and never win importants titles?? that tennis only is effective in clay slow like this and with ball with little pression ,even in roland garros del potro should destroy ferrer.

but this performance of del potro is a good evidence ,that in hard courts he will fight hard , his forehands and backhand like today in hards courts is a terrible weapon

Topspindoctor
12-03-2011, 01:11 AM
I prefer the good and agressive tennis that the physicall tennis and nothing more,

del ptro has gs and semis in rg , ferrer not.

good for the game and never win importants titles?? that tennis only is effective in clay slow like this and with ball with little pression ,even in roland garros del potro should destroy ferrer.

but this performance of del potro is a good evidence ,that in hard courts he will fight hard , his forehands and backhand like today in hards courts is a terrible weapon

Del Potro has done jack shit in 2 years.

alfonsojose
12-03-2011, 01:23 AM
Does Ferrer ever get tired? he's 30, he's played 3 tournaments in November and yet he was running like Usain Bolt after 4hours.

So sad. Yannick, you rule :rocker2:

BroTree123
12-03-2011, 01:23 AM
Disgusting match but result was NID in the end.

Lopez
12-03-2011, 01:23 AM
For me as a neutral, this result is bad since it sucks out all the interest.

Delpo could theoretically beat Nadal (if the argies even win the doubles) but that is not practical to assume.

Juan and Ferru :yeah:

Henry Chinaski
12-03-2011, 01:46 AM
some stuff on day 1

http://shanktennis.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/davis-cup-final-five-thoughts-from-day-one/

rubbERR
12-03-2011, 02:04 AM
Delpos serve is not liability, wtf man? Guy is 4th service games won in 2011, 88%

It was Spanish clay, easy to return.

fast_clay
12-03-2011, 02:11 AM
some stuff on day 1

http://shanktennis.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/davis-cup-final-five-thoughts-from-day-one/

nice one man...

yeah, i missed it all... and, by the way that sounds i shouldnt have...

Arkulari
12-03-2011, 02:18 AM
Pics :woohoo:

Spain will most likely lose the doubles 'cuz well, it's Felinando :lol: but I think Rafa will clinch the tie for us :)

Henry Chinaski
12-03-2011, 02:20 AM
Delpos serve is not liability, wtf man? Guy is 4th service games won in 2011, 88%

It was Spanish clay, easy to return.

"can be"

it's a mediocre serve for a guy his size

rubbERR
12-03-2011, 02:24 AM
"can be"

it's a mediocre serve for a guy his size

He has better serve than Berdych and Cilic at least. You cant really compare him guys in the past because tall guys play better baseline tennis thesedays, and are not only serve machines.

Imperfect Angel
12-03-2011, 03:26 AM
Del Pony :(

jayjay
12-03-2011, 05:18 AM
Del Potro has done jack shit in 2 years.

Er...he was out injured for a year. And in his first full year back on tour ended the season ranked 11 despite having an awful period during his optimal period of the season.

Follow tennis much?

Say Hey Kid
12-03-2011, 06:13 AM
This sucks.

It would have been fun to watch Nalbandian dictate his Davis Cup fate. Win or lose, it would have been nice to see the enigma showcase what he has left in the tank in the matches that by far mean the most to him.

Only one word describes Del Potro who double faulted multiple times on the most crucial break points and failed to convert on break oppurtunties looking at Ferrer's 2nd serve, often times failing to even return the ball. The word to describe Del Potro's performance during the critical moments is "choker".


The whole thing just fucking sucks :facepalm:

Logical
12-03-2011, 06:26 AM
Del Pony :spit:
Ferru :yeah:

dabeast
12-03-2011, 06:32 AM
Argentina is toast, sadly :(

*Jean*
12-03-2011, 07:03 AM
David, phew! :yeah:

Mae
12-03-2011, 08:37 AM
Pics you did it :woohoo:

GSMnadal
12-03-2011, 09:50 AM
Vamossssss David, you little fighter! Was always going to be this way, Del Potro lacks the consistency to win 3 sets against Ferrer on clay.

This tie couldn't be more over, yet another Davis Cup for Rafaaaa :bounce:

EddieNero
12-03-2011, 09:51 AM
Fit Potro almost as fit as Nalbandian.

Agrajag
12-03-2011, 11:46 AM
Vamossssss David, you little fighter! Was always going to be this way, Del Potro lacks the consistency to win 3 sets against Ferrer on clay.

This tie couldn't be more over, yet another Davis Cup for Rafaaaa :bounce:

Apparently, he has just enough consistency to win two though.

What delpo lacked was stamina.

feuselino
12-03-2011, 11:56 AM
Too bad, hope Argentina wins today and they send Nalbandian out against Nadal instead of Del Potro. Not because I don't believe in Del Potro's chances, but because it would add to the Nalbandian DC magic if he'd beat Nadal at a live rubber in Spain...

nalbyfan
12-03-2011, 12:28 PM
Delpony fucked up Argentina's dream, he's always the DC's weak element like in Mar del Plata...he never learns, shame to see that

GSMnadal
12-03-2011, 12:38 PM
Apparently, he has just enough consistency to win two though.

What delpo lacked was stamina.

Del Potro needs to be completely in the zone, to outplay Ferrer on clay. He was able to do it for 2 sets, keeping up that level for 3 sets was too much to ask for.

Stamina is one of the big reasons why he can't keep up that level for three sets.

FormerRafaFan
12-03-2011, 01:12 PM
I am so pissed off by this result. I couldn't even write anything yesterday.

Yes, Ferrer deserved it. It pains me to say it, but Delpo had his fair share of chances and he blew them all. What a fucking idiot. He should just retire. To go from playing like shit to really get it all together and play amazingly, from being under one set to leading with two sets.. and for what? Just so he can COMPLETELY fall apart again, and play as poorly as he did in the first set? :(

This match was so weird. I really thought Delpo was going to win it when he stepped up, but apparently not :( He played like crap in the first set, not gonna deny that, but he did so well to fight back, only to lose the match because he started messing up yet again. A huge opportunity blown because he's a headcase. Pathetic. He really should have won this match. I am so pissed off. Damn.. that loss was hard to swallow. Delpo really should have won it after fighting back like that!

Ferrer did deserve it though. This says a lot coming from me, because I can't stand that pathetic pusher. Shotmaking should really win over defense. Tennis really is in a sad state these days.

It looks to me like Delpo is very rusty. I think he needs to play more matches, improve his fitness, serve, footwork and mentally be ready for matches again. He looked very rusty yesterday. Hopefully he'll be in better form next year. Hopefully he'll train during the off season, and do some damage at the Aussie Open, though I kinda doubt it.. I think it's perhaps too early. I do hope I'm wrong though. All I want is to see the good ol' Delpo back. The Delpo I saw playing Ferrer is CLEARLY not the same Delpo winning a slam. He was very rusty, and had a lot of issues that really do need to get worked out before the open.

FormerRafaFan
12-03-2011, 01:16 PM
This sucks.

It would have been fun to watch Nalbandian dictate his Davis Cup fate. Win or lose, it would have been nice to see the enigma showcase what he has left in the tank in the matches that by far mean the most to him.

Only one word describes Del Potro who double faulted multiple times on the most crucial break points and failed to convert on break oppurtunties looking at Ferrer's 2nd serve, often times failing to even return the ball. The word to describe Del Potro's performance during the critical moments is "choker".


The whole thing just fucking sucks :facepalm:

Agreed. Again.. I think it was a combination of rust and nervousness. Delpo against ferrer is not the del potro I'm used to see. Yes, he has been back on the tour for a while now, but clearly not long enough. He has some MAJOR issues he needs to work out. He didn't have these issues, or at least not to this degree, before he got injured. He just needs to play some more matches and practice and train a lot, try to improve, during the off season.

FormerRafaFan
12-03-2011, 01:19 PM
Argentina is toast, sadly :(

Yep.. would have been more exciting to watch if Delpo won, which is why i rooted for him and was pissed off when he didn't win. Or maybe it's just the fact that I can's stand the pathetic pusher. I have much more respect for a player like Delpo than a player like Ferrer. Ferrer is just a pathetic pusher, and tennis loses whenever he wins.

FormerRafaFan
12-03-2011, 01:25 PM
The tie is actually finished :o LopDasco should give Nadal a favor and lose tomorrow to give him an opportunity to clinch the Davis Cup triumph for the first time :cool:

Trust me, the Spanish lovers are going to lose today. They are both headcases. No way in hell are they gonna win today. I guess it's just as well though, so Argentina isn't completely crushed by Spain :) 1-4 looks better than 0-5, and at least the Argentines can celebrate winning one match if Felando lose today.

FormerRafaFan
12-03-2011, 01:28 PM
Good for the game. You can always count on Ferrer's consistency to outplay a brainless ball basher like Del Mugtro.

:spit:

So a pathetic pusher is better? :superlol: :rolls: :lol: :haha:

FormerRafaFan
12-03-2011, 01:32 PM
Crowd in all Davis Cup matches is worth of 500x facepalms... Davis Cup is a freaking Zoo.

How many times did the umpire have to say "por favor" to the crowd? lol.. it was a lot for sure. I lost count.. :p

FormerRafaFan
12-03-2011, 01:34 PM
No, davy is an attacking player who keeps the points short. Ferrer is a grinder he runs for every ball lile a madman.
Besides davy's footwork has decline massivley this year.

Grinder? just call him what he is.. a pusher. Tennis loses whenever he wins.

Shirogane
12-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Its not like you do it on purpose. You are just extremely stupid human being and yes, i hate stupid people.I think he's doing it on purpose... pretending to like Rafa, dislike Fed, and so on... he just likes to troll. :shrug:

For me as a neutral, this result is bad since it sucks out all the interest.

Delpo could theoretically beat Nadal (if the argies even win the doubles) but that is not practical to assume.

Juan and Ferru :yeah:+1

some stuff on day 1

As Nadal said after his victory against Monaco:

“Things should not be exaggerated. A week ago I was finished and now I don’t seem human.”

The end of season fatigue that people rushed to blame recent defeats on would appear to be more mental than physical based on the Spaniard’s crushing defeat against Juan Monaco.

The mind plays tricks and on an unfavourable surface against an attacking player on a hot streak, you’re certainly liable to feel tired – as was the case for Nadal in London.

Back at home, in every sense of the word, he looked brand new, producing arguably his most assured performance of the year in a 6-1, 6-1, 6-2 rout to take his best of five set record on clay to 66 and 1.

Things should not be exaggerated, it’s true, but those numbers are just absolutely fucking phenomenal.

5. Stick a fork in Argentina… :yeah: This. Sadly...

nice one man...

yeah, i missed it all... and, by the way that sounds i shouldnt have...No, unfortunately...

jayjay
12-03-2011, 02:12 PM
Delpony fucked up Argentina's dream, he's always the DC's weak element like in Mar del Plata...he never learns, shame to see that

He got injured in Mar del Plata - it happens, that wasn't his fault, in the slightest.

He lost to Ferrer in Spain on clay in a match he was not favoured to win (although I thought he would win, personally) in 5 sets.

He's no weak link - you can attribute that to the many other players Nalbandian has had to carry in Davis Cup for the past 10 years.

jayjay
12-03-2011, 02:14 PM
How many times did the umpire have to say "por favor" to the crowd? lol.. it was a lot for sure. I lost count.. :p

It's called atmosphere.

Davis Cup is Tennis with a Football atmosphere. Love it or leave it, as they say.

addison
12-03-2011, 02:24 PM
Brilliant f&&king tennis. Tweens, wake up. You're not gonna see this again. Armada eeeeeezzz brilliant.

rocketassist
12-03-2011, 03:01 PM
Anyone who doubts what Davis Cup means should have watched this. The drama was unreal and Del Potro's reaction at the end showed how gutted he was.

Pics is a Spartan :yeah:

rocketassist
12-03-2011, 03:01 PM
It's called atmosphere.

Davis Cup is Tennis with a Football atmosphere. Love it or leave it, as they say.

Exactly, do these clowns want Strawberries and Pimms at every tie?

jayjay
12-03-2011, 03:06 PM
Exactly, do these clowns want Strawberries and Pimms at every tie?

I just can't relate to anyone who doesn't appreciate Davis Cup atmospheres. Whether you like the format or not is one thing, how you weigh up Davis Cup in the grand scheme of tennis achievements is another thing, but to not absolutely love two sets of fans cheering every point won like a goal has just been scored?

I'm not saying people like that should be executed, but...

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 04:40 PM
He got injured in Mar del Plata - it happens, that wasn't his fault, in the slightest.

He lost to Ferrer in Spain on clay in a match he was not favoured to win (although I thought he would win, personally) in 5 sets.

He's no weak link - you can attribute that to the many other players Nalbandian has had to carry in Davis Cup for the past 10 years.
Del Potro has lost two Davis cup finals for Argentina. He is a disgrace, not the weakest link. He is the strongest link that fails to perform when it really matters which is much worse than being a Monaco, i.e. a weak link.

jayjay
12-03-2011, 04:52 PM
Del Potro has lost two Davis cup finals for Argentina. He is a disgrace, not the weakest link. He is the strongest link that fails to perform when it really matters which is much worse than being a Monaco, i.e. a weak link.

Svet. :p

We'll agree to massively disagree.

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 04:58 PM
Svet. :p

We'll agree to massively disagree.

There is no point in defending the indefensible.

In these big moments, you either have it or not. Del Choktro clearly doesn't have it, so we might as well call a spade a spade (or a choker a choker in this case).

shotgun
12-03-2011, 05:07 PM
Well, Del Potro has a chance to redeem himself tomorrow. :p

jayjay
12-03-2011, 05:07 PM
There is no point in defending the indefensible.

In these big moments, you either have it or not. Del Choktro clearly doesn't have it, so we might as well call a spade a spade (or a choker a choker in this case).

I don't think there is anything to defend.

He got injured against Lopez in Mar del Plata and thus lost. That's just the sad truth - had he not got injured he would most likely have won, or at least gone on to win the 4th rubber against Verdasco.

And yesterday he was the better player for the majority of the match but he let a couple of opportunities go at the end of the 4th when he might have been in a position to finish it off. And in the 5th he ran out of steam, which wasn't all that surprising given he is still a ways off from being at peak match fitness against a player who is at the peak of his powers and fitness on his best surface. It's a match either player could have won, but only one can, and unfortunately it wasn't Del Potro.

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 05:12 PM
Well, Del Potro has a chance to redeem himself tomorrow. :p

No, Nalbandian has to play Nadal tomorrow. Del Choktro doesn't deserve to wear that shirt tomorrow, or he could wear la Roja as far as I care given that he has gifted two Davis cups to Spain.

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 05:16 PM
I don't think there is anything to defend.

He got injured against Lopez in Mar del Plata and thus lost. That's just the sad truth - had he not got injured he would most likely have won, or at least gone on to win the 4th rubber against Verdasco.

And yesterday he was the better player for the majority of the match but he let a couple of opportunities go at the end of the 4th when he might have been in a position to finish it off. And in the 5th he ran out of steam, which wasn't all that surprising given he is still a ways off from being at peak match fitness against a player who is at the peak of his powers and fitness on his best surface. It's a match either player could have won, but only one can, and unfortunately it wasn't Del Potro.

You believe in that injury? Please... Even injured, he should have beaten Lopez at home. There is no excuse for that loss, just disgraceful. Even there he choked away the lead he had.

And I won't even mention the chokes he displayed yesterday. Not once, but gazillion times. You said it yourself, it wasn't Del Potro who won, hence why he is the loser of this final (that's 2 in a row btw).

jayjay
12-03-2011, 05:18 PM
No, Nalbandian has to play Nadal tomorrow.

There is no point in that happening because even if he pulled off a miracle and won there is really no chance in hell that Monaco is going to win a big match, unless Ferrer falls over and breaks his ankle.

We are better off letting Del Potro see if he can pull off the upset and if he did, then we'd be in a good position with Nalbandian going up against Ferrer - since we know this is what Nalbandian has wanted all along, a chance to win the Davis Cup on his own terms, even if it's a tough match-up for him with Ferrer on clay based on their history.

I've got no interest in seeing Malaga all over again and have Calleri (Del Potro) destroy Ferrero (Nadal) in a huge upset only to see the 5th rubber be lost in pathetically weak fashion - just substitute Gaudio's performance in 2003 for what Monaco would produce here in 2011 (although at least Pico would put in some effort, unlike Gaudio did back then).

I'd rather see Nadal predictably beat Del Potro in 4 sets than see Monaco just get savaged by Ferrer when we would only be one win away from winning it.

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 05:21 PM
There is no point in that happening because even if he pulled off a miracle and won there is really no chance in hell that Monaco is going to win a big match, unless Ferrer falls over and breaks his ankle.

We are better off letting Del Potro see if he can pull off the upset and if he did, then we'd be in a good position with Nalbandian going up against Ferrer - since we know this is what Nalbandian has wanted all along, a chance to win the Davis Cup on his own terms, even if it's a tough match-up for him with Ferrer on clay based on their history.

I've got no interest in seeing Malaga all over again and have Calleri (Del Potro) destroy Ferrero (Nadal) in a huge upset only to see the 5th rubber be lost in pathetically weak fashion - just substitute Gaudio's performance in 2003 for what Monaco would produce here in 2011 (although at least Pico would put in some effort, unlike Gaudio did back then).

I'd rather see Nadal predictably beat Del Potro in 4 sets than see Monaco just get savaged by Ferrer when we would only be one win away from winning it.
Haha, Del Potro to beat Nadal in a final? There's a bigger chance of me winning that one tomorrow. Please be rational.

And Pico would stand a decent chance in the fifth rubber, if the miracle happens.

cobalt60
12-03-2011, 05:22 PM
Haha, Del Potro to beat Nadal in a final? There's a bigger chance of me winning that one tomorrow. Please be rational.

And Pico would stand a decent chance in the fifth rubber, if the miracle happens.

What are you smoking? Monaco can not get it done in a 5th rubber.

jayjay
12-03-2011, 05:23 PM
You believe in that injury? Please... Even injured, he should have beaten Lopez at home. There is no excuse for that loss, just disgraceful. Even there he choked away the lead he had.

And I won't even mention the chokes he displayed yesterday. Not once, but gazillion times. You said it yourself, it wasn't Del Potro who won, hence why he is the loser of this final (that's 2 in a row btw).

Svet, be serious. Of course he was injured, that's why he cried after the match because he knew he hadn't just lost the 2nd rubber but that he'd be unable to play the 4th rubber and thus all the pressure was on us to win the doubles because we knew damn well Acasuso was not going to have the balls (or the talent) to win the 4th rubber.

I know you're just angry and frustrated (I'm frustrated, but I'm not angry, at all - in fact I was pretty pleased with what Del Potro did for the most part yesterday, although it's a shame he didn't finish it off) - and I was going to mail back about this, anyway. :D

cobalt60
12-03-2011, 05:24 PM
Svet, be serious. Of course he was injured, that's why he cried after the match because he knew he hadn't just lost the 2nd rubber but that he'd be unable to play the 4th rubber and thus all the pressure was on us to win the doubles because we knew damn well Acasuso was not going to have the balls (or the talent) to win the 4th rubber.

I know you're just angry and frustrated (I'm frustrated, but I'm not angry, at all - in fact I was pretty pleased with what Del Potro did for the most part yesterday, although it's a shame he didn't finish it off) - and I was going to mail back about this, anyway. :D

I would hang it up having a discourse here :p

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 05:25 PM
What are you smoking? Monaco can not get it done in a 5th rubber.

The result doesn't matter, because the tie is already over. Thanks to Del Choktro once again.

I just don't want to see that disgraceful loser wear albiceleste ever again.

jayjay
12-03-2011, 05:27 PM
Haha, Del Potro to beat Nadal in a final? There's a bigger chance of me winning that one tomorrow. Please be rational.

I don't think he is going to win but he is our best chance of the players we have of winning. If Nalbandian hadn't had the kind of surgeries that he has had in the past couple of years, then he would have been, but that's no longer the case.

And Pico would stand a decent chance in the fifth rubber, if the miracle happens.

I don't agree, at all. Pico is a nice guy and he always puts in his best effort, unfortunately he just doesn't have any of the kind of make up needed to win a match of that magnitude - even though he has a decent record against Ferrer.

Ferrer's big match experience would be the deciding factor, Pico would just shrink and crumble under the pressure and expectation.

jayjay
12-03-2011, 05:28 PM
I would hang it up having a discourse here :p

Svet and I are cool, so I'd respectfully disagree with you. :p

cobalt60
12-03-2011, 05:28 PM
The result doesn't matter, because the tie is already over. Thanks to Del Choktro once again.

I just don't want to see that disgraceful loser wear albiceleste ever again.

Then I would suggest you root for Spain or maybe don't watch. Then you can be happier.

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 05:31 PM
I don't think he is going to win but he is our best chance of the players we have of winning. If Nalbandian hadn't had the kind of surgeries that he has had in the past couple of years, then he would have been, but that's no longer the case.



I don't agree, at all. Pico is a nice guy and he always puts in his best effort, unfortunately he just doesn't have any of the kind of make up needed to win a match of that magnitude - even though he has a decent record against Ferrer.

Ferrer's big match experience would be the deciding factor, Pico would just shrink and crumble under the pressure and expectation.
It doesn't matter, the tie is over. I just don't want to see that loser play again.

The loser is going to be dead tired anyway, given his superior fitness at the age of 23.

jayjay
12-03-2011, 05:33 PM
The loser is going to be dead tired anyway, given his superior fitness at the age of 23.

:lol: I agree, he should be in better shape than he is.

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 05:35 PM
Then I would suggest you root for Spain or maybe don't watch. Then you can be happier.

I care about Argentina, so no thanks. I want to see them win this damn cup once in my lifetime. Thanks to the loser, I won't live to see that.

LinkMage
12-03-2011, 05:50 PM
Del Mugtro got injured in that DC final because he is a money whore and went to Shanghai Masters Cup injured instead of staying in Argentina to recover. That is unforgivable.

rubbERR
12-03-2011, 05:53 PM
Del Mugtro got injured in that DC final because he is a money whore and went to Shanghai Masters Cup injured instead of staying in Argentina to recover. That is unforgivable.

Dude... that was his first succesful season on tour, who wouldnt have done that? Davis Cup doesnt get you any money, its all about fun.

Svetlana T.
12-03-2011, 05:57 PM
Del Mugtro got injured in that DC final because he is a money whore and went to Shanghai Masters Cup injured instead of staying in Argentina to recover. That is unforgivable.

He is the sole responsible for the marplatazo disaster.

jayjay
12-03-2011, 06:00 PM
Del Mugtro got injured in that DC final because he is a money whore and went to Shanghai Masters Cup injured instead of staying in Argentina to recover. That is unforgivable.

That's not why, actually. The injury he picked up in Mar del Plata was a new one completely unrelated to the previous one.

Dude... that was his first succesful season on tour, who wouldnt have done that? Davis Cup doesnt get you any money, its all about fun.

Fun/Money? Please shut the fuck up. Your comments about Davis Cup not mattering - it may not matter to you - are just so ridiculous, although at least they fit consistently with the copious amounts of other shit you come out with.

Have you heard of national pride, by any chance? Del Potro has it, although you don't seem familiar with it.

rocketassist
12-03-2011, 06:04 PM
I hope this match shut up all those clowns and Fedtards who consider Davis Cup an unimportant competition.

Ibracadabra
12-03-2011, 06:05 PM
People shouldn't question delpos committment to argentina, how many times have we seen him shed tears in davis cup.

rubbERR
12-03-2011, 06:05 PM
Does this national pride help country, to make it better? No. Its just a feeling, this national pride.

Fun - joy - thats all National pride gives.

jayjay
12-03-2011, 06:18 PM
Does this national pride help country, to make it better? No. Its just a feeling, this national pride.

Fun - joy - thats all National pride gives.

Does winning a Grand Slam help a country, to make it better?

WTF.

You're a Del Potro fan, right? A pretty moronic one, to be perfectly honest. Do you not know enough about Del Potro as a person and player - through following his career - to understand that Davis Cup is a HUGE deal to him (and even more so to Nalbandian), because he's actually passionate about his country and representing his nation?

I hate getting involved with conversations on this issue with people who clearly have absolutely no understanding of what they are watching - irrespective of whether they like the competition or not - and so I'm going to leave it right here.

http://imageshack.us/f/171/juanmartindelpotro.jpg/

shotgun
12-03-2011, 06:21 PM
People shouldn't question delpos committment to argentina, how many times have we seen him shed tears in davis cup.

We have seen him shed tears a lot of times actually, but not only in Davis Cup. :lol:

rubbERR
12-03-2011, 06:25 PM
Yes, Grandslam win gives country more public eye, more media interest... that was huge for Tandil.

So yes, potentially that has more offer than Davis Cup win.

jayjay
12-04-2011, 12:06 AM
Yes, Grandslam win gives country more public eye, more media interest... that was huge for Tandil.

So yes, potentially that has more offer than Davis Cup win.

Ok, I'm going to finish you off one last time, I just can't resist.

1. Winning a Grand Slam gives "more" in your opinion to a country than a Davis Cup - let's just say that's correct (which it wouldn't necessarily be in the case of Argentina). And? WTF does that have to do with Argentina fans being disappointed that Del Potro lost to Ferrer in a Davis Cup final? You obviously have absolutely no idea whatsoever how seriously Davis Cup is taken by Argentina fans and more importantly - Argentina players (of which Del Potro is one, incase you hadn't noticed?)

2. You seem very taken aback by the criticism Del Potro is getting for losing to Ferrer and it's probably the only thing I've ever seen you say that bares even the slightest bit of truth. He doesn't deserve to be hammered for losing to Ferrer (on his best surface in Spain), especially when it was in 5 sets and Del Potro dominated most of the match.

However, where do you get off being taken aback by any criticism of Del Potro? You say he shouldn't get it for all the wrong reasons - because in your ignorant opinion, Davis Cup is just a bit of "fun". And yet I've seen you a number of times completely slag Del Potro off and even call for him to retire for losing matches or playing poorly in completely fucking irrelevant shitty tour events (that are so pointless barely 500 people can be bothered to pay to watch, as opposed to the over 25k crowd for the Davis Cup final) - that were neither Grand Slams or Masters Series.

In conclusion - you're a hypocrite, as well as being ignorant and just generally not having a clue what you are talking about most times you speak. I know that may sound harsh but it's also the complete truth.