At which tournament did the big four show their respective best forms? [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

At which tournament did the big four show their respective best forms?

Fiberlight1
11-29-2011, 02:22 PM
Was just wondering at which tournament did we see the very best out of the members of the top four?

In my opinion

Djokovic- Australian Open 2008
Nadal- Australian Open 2009/Us Open 2010
Federer- Australian Open 2007
Murray- ... Uhhhh, US Open 2008, I guess.

rickcastle
11-29-2011, 02:35 PM
Djokovic - Rome 2011 comes to mind as most recent... but I'm sure his fans can provide better examples
Nadal - Roland Garros 2008 was sick
Federer - too many to mention but almost every tournament he won in 2006, then Australian 2007, WTF 2010
Murray - I can't really think of anything right now, maybe the way he bageled Nadal in Tokyo was impressive but I didn't see the match so IDK for sure

emotion
11-29-2011, 02:42 PM
Djokovic- AO 2011 vs Fed 1st set :worship: both played a great set
Nadal- Rg 2008, 2010 was very overrated, field was just awful
Federer- Pretty much all 2006-2007 and WTF 2010
Murray- vs Cilic AO 2010

Arakasi
11-29-2011, 03:28 PM
Federer - Australian Open 2007
Nadal - French Open 2008
Djokovic - I'm not sure

Sophocles
11-29-2011, 04:05 PM
If we're talking slams, then:

Djokovic - A.O. 2008;
Nadal - R.G. 2008;
Federer - maybe A.O. 2007, but there are numerous other candidates from 2003-7;
Murray - A.O. 2010.

Guga_fan
11-29-2011, 04:07 PM
Federer - AO 2007
Nadal - FO 2008
Djokovic - AO 2011
Murray - USO 2008

GOAT = Fed
11-29-2011, 04:13 PM
Federer - AO 2007, Wimbledon 2006
Nadal- RG 2008, for sure.
Djokovic- AO 2011
Murray- USO 2008

Zare1
11-29-2011, 04:36 PM
no one said djokovic USO 2011

SetSampras
11-29-2011, 05:15 PM
Fed AO 07 ( though its not difficult to make Roddick look like a chump
Nadal- RG 08, USO 10
Nole- AO 08, AO 11
Murray- Whats he shown again? How NOT to show up to slam finals?

Nixer
11-29-2011, 05:35 PM
Djokovic - Rome 2011
Nadal - RG 2008, USO 2010
Federer - AO 2007, WTF 2010
Murray - Shanghai 2010

eduggs
11-29-2011, 07:12 PM
Djokovic- AO 2011 vs Fed 1st set :worship: both played a great set
Nadal- Rg 2008, 2010 was very overrated, field was just awful
Federer- Pretty much all 2006-2007 and WTF 2010
Murray- vs Cilic AO 2010

Agreed. I can't think of too many other players, even at their best, who would have beaten Federer at his level in this year's Australian Open. If Djokovic had played just a few loose points in the first two sets he would have been down 2 sets to love. Insanely high level from Djokovic.

Sapeod
11-29-2011, 07:22 PM
Federer - pretty much every tournament he won between 2004-2006.
Murray - US Open 2008 semi-final/Miami 2009/Montreal 2010/Tokyo final this year.
Nadal - RG 08.
Djokovic - AO 08.

SetSampras
11-29-2011, 07:23 PM
Federer - pretty much every tournament he won between 2004-2006.
Murray - US Open 2008 semi-final/Miami 2009
Nadal - RG 08.
Djokovic - AO 08.


You mean struggling to defeat 100 year old Agassi at the USO for 2 years? Thats impressive? Beating Baghaditis, Roddick? Impressive? Or do you mean his level? Many times a person's level is the direct cause of medicore competition as well arguably. Fed can look superhuman when someone like Roddick is across the net. Someone like a Rafa or Nole can beam him back down to earth

HKz
11-29-2011, 07:27 PM
You mean struggling to defeat 100 year old Agassi at the USO for 2 years? Thats impressive? Beating Baghaditis, Roddick? Impressive? Or do you mean his level? Many times a person's level is the direct cause of medicore competition as well arguably. Fed can look superhuman when someone like Roddick is across the net. Someone like a Rafa or Nole can beam him back down to earth

Always so mad and bitter. Someone buy this fool a plane ticket to Federer/Agassi/Sampras and videotape him trying to say such things to their faces.

jonas
11-29-2011, 07:32 PM
You mean struggling to defeat 100 year old Agassi at the USO for 2 years?

AO 2005. 6–3 6–4 6–4.
BTW, 6–3, 2–6, 7–6, 6–1 isn't exactly struggling, is it? He lost a set, so what?

Sophocles
11-29-2011, 07:53 PM
You mean struggling to defeat 100 year old Agassi at the USO for 2 years? Thats impressive? Beating Baghaditis, Roddick? Impressive? Or do you mean his level? Many times a person's level is the direct cause of medicore competition as well arguably. Fed can look superhuman when someone like Roddick is across the net. Someone like a Rafa or Nole can beam him back down to earth

More impressive than beating Pioline or Chang, you dipshit.

SetSampras
11-29-2011, 09:21 PM
AO 2005. 6–3 6–4 6–4.
BTW, 6–3, 2–6, 7–6, 6–1 isn't exactly struggling, is it? He lost a set, so what?

He needed 5 sets just to beat a 34 year old Agassi. :rolleyes: Heck Agassi at a dinosaur age was taking more sets away from Fed then his own contemporaries. ROFL

Sophocles
11-29-2011, 10:17 PM
So what? As has been established in another thread, great players can still have their moments even late in their careers, & Agassi ended 2005 in the Top 10. Sampras didn't exactly find it easy against an old Becker at the Masters in 1996 (or at Wimbledon the year before), the year before Becker retired.

Sapeod
11-29-2011, 10:22 PM
You mean struggling to defeat 100 year old Agassi at the USO for 2 years? Thats impressive? Beating Baghaditis, Roddick? Impressive? Or do you mean his level? Many times a person's level is the direct cause of medicore competition as well arguably. Fed can look superhuman when someone like Roddick is across the net. Someone like a Rafa or Nole can beam him back down to earth
Federer's general level then >>>> any other level in the history of tennis, including Sampras :wavey: Sorry that it hurts so much :wavey:

coonster14
11-29-2011, 10:28 PM
Federer - Aus Open 2007 (JesusFed :bowdown:)
Nadal - French Open 2008 (unreal stuff, the only opponent who came close to winning a set was Djokovic in the 3rd set of their SF, then he crushed Roger in the final for the loss of 4 games :worship:)
Djokovic - Aus Open 2008 (I didn't like him at the time, but that was the best tennis I've ever seen him play :bigclap:)
Murray - US Open 2008 (The way he beat Rafa in the SF despite having never won against Rafa before that match), but the window is now quickly closing for Muzza to win a grand slam.

atennisfan
11-29-2011, 10:29 PM
Always so mad and bitter. Someone buy this fool a plane ticket to Federer/Agassi/Sampras and videotape him trying to say such things to their faces.

His/her real life must be miserable. It seems his/her life is defined by undermining every single thing about RF.
So sad.

Topspindoctor
11-30-2011, 04:57 AM
Nadal: RG 2008 - best clay level in history, will never ever be repeated, the thrashing of Olderer in the finals was icing on a cake :drool:

Olderer: AO 2007

Djoker: AO 2008

Mugray: AO 2010 - he ALMOST won a set :haha:

eduggs
11-30-2011, 05:04 AM
He needed 5 sets just to beat a 34 year old Agassi. :rolleyes: Heck Agassi at a dinosaur age was taking more sets away from Fed then his own contemporaries. ROFL

Agassi was a handful at the US Open and trained and played at a very high level into his mid-30s. That's a credit to him, not a knock on the other players.

Incidentally, Federer won their last 8 matches... with several breadsticks and bagels thrown in for good measure.

stewietennis
11-30-2011, 05:40 AM
I liked Federer's return to form at Wimbledon 2009 against Roddick. Even though the outcome wasn't in question, I think it's the most pressure Federer has been under and won.

I liked Nadal's Australian Open 2009 against Roger - not a complete demolition of the opponent but showed fighting spirit taking into account the Verdasco Semi.

I liked Novak's close win over Nadal in Miami. I think this was the turning point in his season and showed that he could grind out a close win.

SetSampras
11-30-2011, 06:22 AM
Agassi was a handful at the US Open and trained and played at a very high level into his mid-30s. That's a credit to him, not a knock on the other players.

Incidentally, Federer won their last 8 matches... with several breadsticks and bagels thrown in for good measure.


Andre was more of a handful in his 20s-early 30s. He shouldn't have been that kind of a handful at the very end of his career being much slower, with Sciatica needing cortizone shots after every match.. Certainly not to a close to peak Fed

Arkulari
11-30-2011, 06:39 AM
Andre was more of a handful in his 20s-early 30s. He shouldn't have been that kind of a handful at the very end of his career being much slower, with Sciatica needing cortizone shots after every match.. Certainly not to a close to peak Fed

Agassi was busy picking wigs and doing meth when he was younger to be a consistent threat, in fact he played much better in the early 00's because he was focussed in what he was doing, Steffi was a good influence for him.

tektonac
11-30-2011, 06:56 AM
Nadal: RG 2008 - best clay level in history, will never ever be repeated, the thrashing of Olderer in the finals was icing on a cake :drool:

Olderer: AO 2007

Djoker: AO 2008

Mugray: AO 2010 - he ALMOST won a set :haha:

totally agree on the big 3. however i think murray's best form was AO 2009, but he was unlucky enough to run into red hot tabasco.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
11-30-2011, 11:32 AM
Fed- Agassi 2003 TMC (FUC-KING WOW!!! that player was not the same guy who plays today)
nadal- rome 2006 final- managed to beat fed at his best
nole- aus 2008- beat a still good federer
murray-us open 2008- no one expected him to own nadal like that

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
11-30-2011, 11:45 AM
Nadal: RG 2008 - best clay level in history, will never ever be repeated, the thrashing of Olderer in the finals was icing on a cake :drool:



didnt borg have 3 years where he lost less games?

and look at his joke draw

1R
Win Brazil Thomaz Bellucci 7–5, 6–3, 6–1
2R
Win France Nicolas Devilder 6–4, 6–0, 6–1
3R
Win Finland Jarkko Nieminen 6–1, 6–3, 6–1
4R
Win Spain Fernando Verdasco 6–1, 6–0, 6–2
QF
Win Spain Nicolαs Almagro 6–1, 6–1, 6–1
SF
Win Serbia Novak Djokovic 6–4, 6–2, 7–6(7–3)
F
Win (4) Switzerland Roger Federer 6–1, 6–3, 6–0

tabasco, mugro, monofed, baby-nole

fucking eh

borg's 1978 1,1,3 win over vilas alone put him over nadal

henke007
11-30-2011, 11:47 AM
The big 3 at any Grand Slam level.

stewietennis
11-30-2011, 10:50 PM
didnt borg have 3 years where he lost less games?

and look at his joke draw

1R
Win Brazil Thomaz Bellucci 7–5, 6–3, 6–1
2R
Win France Nicolas Devilder 6–4, 6–0, 6–1
3R
Win Finland Jarkko Nieminen 6–1, 6–3, 6–1
4R
Win Spain Fernando Verdasco 6–1, 6–0, 6–2
QF
Win Spain Nicolαs Almagro 6–1, 6–1, 6–1
SF
Win Serbia Novak Djokovic 6–4, 6–2, 7–6(7–3)
F
Win (4) Switzerland Roger Federer 6–1, 6–3, 6–0

tabasco, mugro, monofed, baby-nole

fucking eh

borg's 1978 1,1,3 win over vilas alone put him over nadal

Borg was dominating in the years he won the French Open but if you want to downplay Nadal's win by the "quality of opponents" argument at the French, we'd have to subject Borg to the same. Just remembering the significant ones – looking at per year:

1974: F Manuel Orantes (0 slams)
1975: F Guillermo Vilas (0 slams), 4th Smith (2 slams)
1978: F Guillermo Vilas (3 slams), Tanner (1 slam)
1979: SF Vitas Gerulaitis (1 slam)
1980: F Vitas Gerulaitis (1 slam)
1981: Lendl** (0 slams) taken to five sets

Nadal's 2008 fares favourably to any single Borg year when he had to beat SF Djokovic (1 slam) and F Federer (12 slams). The only one that's comparable is your aforementioned 1978 because Borg also had to beat two slam winners: Nadal lost 41 games, Borg lost only 32 games going into the Final; both were taken to tie breaks by single slam winners (Nadal in the SF, Borg in 4th); Borg lost 5 games in the F, Nadal only lost 4 games.

* Lendl was three years away from his first major

LinkMage
12-01-2011, 12:35 AM
Why are people mentioning USO 2010 for Nadull? :confused:

He only played a tired Djokovic who folded like a cheap tent as usual in big matches between them (previous to this year).

The rest of his draw was a joke.

SetSampras
12-01-2011, 12:39 AM
Nadal played attacking tennis and served bombs that tournament. Awesome tennis.. If only he would have done that this year.

Topspindoctor
12-01-2011, 12:40 AM
Why are people mentioning USO 2010 for Nadull? :confused:

He only played a tired Djokovic who folded like a cheap tent as usual in big matches between them (previous to this year).

The rest of his draw was a joke.

Yeah, because Olderer's AO 2007 was so hard. Pigeon Roddick and first time slam finalist Gonzalez. Nadal's USO 2010 > Olderer's AO 2007 :wavey:

guga2120
12-01-2011, 01:02 AM
Rafa - Roland Garros 2008. Just scary good.
Novak - Australian Open 2011- He was literally like a machine
Arrogant Swiss - US Open 2004, Roland Garros 2009 very impressive as well, those epic battles with clay giants Haas and Jose Acasuso
Andy - Toronto 2010, in slam US Open 2008

Sophocles
12-01-2011, 01:05 AM
Yeah, because Olderer's AO 2007 was so hard. Pigeon Roddick and first time slam finalist Gonzalez. Nadal's USO 2010 > Olderer's AO 2007 :wavey:

Now he's safely (if scandalously) out of the ACC, Topspindoctor gives free rein to his trolling instincts.

guga2120
12-01-2011, 01:07 AM
Yeah, because Olderer's AO 2007 was so hard. Pigeon Roddick and first time slam finalist Gonzalez. Nadal's USO 2010 > Olderer's AO 2007 :wavey:

This is true, since Rafa had to deal with Novak in the final. Rafa's second best display in a slam.

Arkulari
12-01-2011, 01:08 AM
Rafa - Roland Garros 2008. Just scary good.
Novak - Australian Open 2011- He was literally like a machine
Arrogant Swiss - US Open 2004, Roland Garros 2009 very impressive as well, those epic battles with clay giants Haas and Jose Acasuso
Andy - Toronto 2010, in slam US Open 2008

So good to see you, former FedTard :D :wavey:

LinkMage
12-01-2011, 01:09 AM
Yeah, because Olderer's AO 2007 was so hard. Pigeon Roddick and first time slam finalist Gonzalez. Nadal's USO 2010 > Olderer's AO 2007 :wavey:

He demolished Nole in the 4th round. :wavey:

Topspindoctor
12-01-2011, 01:12 AM
He demolished Nole in the 4th round. :wavey:

Nole who wasn't even top 10 back then and had no confidence or experience. Yeah, like I said hard draw. :o

LinkMage
12-01-2011, 01:20 AM
Nole who wasn't even top 10 back then and had no confidence or experience. Yeah, like I said hard draw. :o

Same Nole who reached the USO final later that year, finished the year ranked #3 and won the AO the following year. :bigwave:

SetSampras
12-01-2011, 01:22 AM
The Fed goof troop trying to build up baby headcase 10 year old diaper rash Djokovic of 2007...:haha: And I thought trying to build up roddick was bad.

Arkulari
12-01-2011, 01:23 AM
Yeah, Nole was a mug, just #14 in the world, just what you want to get in a 4th Round :D :rolleyes:

Same "baby" Nole who latter beat Roger in Canada that year and played the USO final against him, beating him just one year later in Australia...

Federer's 2004 Wimbledon draw wasn't that easy, apart from Falla he had to face Karlovic, T. Johansson, Hewitt and Roddick.

Same for 2005, facing Kiefer, Ferrero, Gonzo, Hewitt and Roddick.

In 2007 it was Del Potro, Safin, Haas, Ferrero, Gasquet, Nadal.

In Australia 2010 he had to face Hewitt, Davydenko, Tsonga, Murray (the last 3 were top 10)

Calling Roddick, Hewitt, Murray, Safin, Ferrero mugs is just an stupidity :o

Newsflash: you have to win every single match you have in your draw, cannot choose who to play.

SetSampras
12-01-2011, 01:26 AM
Yeah, Nole was a mug, just #14 in the world, just what you want to get in a 4th Round :D :rolleyes:

Federer's 2004 Wimbledon draw wasn't that easy, apart from Falla he had to face Karlovic, T. Johansson, Hewitt and Roddick.

Same for 2005, facing Kiefer, Ferrero, Gonzo, Hewitt and Roddick.

In 2007 it was Del Potro, Safin, Haas, Ferrero, Gasquet, Nadal.

In Australia he had to face Hewitt, Davydenko, Tsonga, Murray (the last 3 were top 10)

Calling Roddick, Hewitt, Murray, Safin, Ferrero mugs is just an stupidity.



Mugray of 2007? Are u serious? baby teenage Djokovic 4 years before his real prime? Slamless mugs Tsonga and Davydenko? Roddick the 1 slam wonder and Fed's historical pigeon? .. Hewitt brokeback by 2006 and well beyond his prime after?, On and off against Safin.. Chicken Pox Ferrero?

Arkulari
12-01-2011, 01:32 AM
Mugray of 2007? Are u serious? baby teenage Djokovic 4 years before his real prime? Slamless mugs Tsonga and Davydenko? Roddick the 1 slam wonder and Fed's historical pigeon? .. Hewitt brokeback by 2006 and well beyond his prime after?, On and off against Safin.. Chicken Pox Ferrero?

I corrected it and put 2010 in Australia, that so-called "baby" Nole defeat Roger easily the NEXT year and won the 2008 tournament, winning TMC that same year + some MS tournaments, playing the USO 07 final.

Granted, his best year to date has been 2011 but that would be as stupid as calling Roger "baby Fed" in 2002/2003.

I guess multiple grand slam champions like Pioline or Martin were totally the greatest rivals one could have, much better than any Hewitt or Roddick ever were and of course defeating Courier in fast Wimbledon is the highlight achievement of a lifetime. :rolleyes:

Newsflash: you play whom you have to play, not whom you choose to and have to win matches whether they are against mugs like Galo Blanco or champs like Becker.

Topspindoctor
12-01-2011, 01:32 AM
Same Nole who reached the USO final later that year, finished the year ranked #3 and won the AO the following year. :bigwave:

What does that have to do with anything? I am talking about a particular tournament, in which Nole was just a kid with no experience and Olderer was a multi slam winner. What I said is true: Olderer had poor competition in AO 2007, that's why he was so dominant.

Arkulari
12-01-2011, 01:35 AM
What does that have to do with anything? I am talking about a particular tournament, in which Nole was just a kid with no experience and Olderer was a multi slam winner. What I said is true: Olderer had poor competition in AO 2007, that's why he was so dominant.

Yeah, just like Rafa was just a bb in RG 05, no experience in latter rounds of a GS. :)

Champions are champions and if they are nearing their peaks, they will present an issue to anybody.

LinkMage
12-01-2011, 01:38 AM
What does that have to do with anything? I am talking about a particular tournament, in which Nole was just a kid with no experience and Olderer was a multi slam winner. What I said is true: Olderer had poor competition in AO 2007, that's why he was so dominant.


Ok, take AO 2004 then beating Hewitt, Nalbandian, Ferrero and Safin in a row.

Alex999
12-01-2011, 01:57 AM
Djokovic - AO 2008
Federer - AO 2007
Nadal - RG 2008
Murray - USO 2008

Sophocles
12-01-2011, 10:32 AM
As has been conclusively demonstrated in another thread, Federer's draws to win slams were on average tougher than Sampras's. It is a complete myth that Sampras beat tougher competition to win slams.

RogerFedererNo1
12-01-2011, 10:51 AM
What does that have to do with anything? I am talking about a particular tournament, in which Nole was just a kid with no experience and Olderer was a multi slam winner. What I said is true: Olderer had poor competition in AO 2007, that's why he was so dominant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R4Oo3Jxc5Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WeqGdx_4k8

And in the semis against Haas Gonzalez had like 40 winners and 3 UE

Anyway ..

Federer- US Open 2004, Australian Open 2007
Nadal- French Open 2008
Djokovic- Australian Open 2011
Murray- US Open 2008, Tokio 2011

Sophocles
12-01-2011, 10:55 AM
What does that have to do with anything? I am talking about a particular tournament, in which Nole was just a kid with no experience and Olderer was a multi slam winner. What I said is true: Olderer had poor competition in AO 2007, that's why he was so dominant.

Yeah, ancient Youzhny in the semis, tough one.

Twat.

Fujee
12-01-2011, 11:47 AM
Mods should probably get this thread down to the morgue

Egreen
12-01-2011, 08:04 PM
Federer: AO 2007
Djokovic: AO 2008
Nadal: RG 2008
Murray: USO 2008

Nothing after 2008.:eek:

asmazif
12-02-2011, 11:22 AM
Djokovic: Cincinnati 2006
Nadal: Doha 2009
Federer: Miami 2008
Murray: Wimbledon 2007