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Suicide Tennis Managers Thread 2012

dinkulpus
11-23-2011, 07:38 PM
Tournament Calendar
ATP 250 ATP 500 ATP 1000 Grand SlamsDavis Cup



Week 1 : Doha JupiterLover
Week 2 : Sydney abollo
Week 3 : Australian Open sfar
Week 5 : Montpellier Spain07
Week 6 : Davis Cup First Round
Week 7 : Rotterdam lucian_iasi
Week 8 : Memphis Tulipe
Week 9 : Dubai RoddickFan
Week 10 : Indian Wells lucian_iasi
Week 12 : Miami lucian_iasi
Week 14 : Davis Cup Quaterfinals
Week 15 : Houston cswab22
Week 16 : Monte-Carlo Tulipe
Week 17 : Barcelona RoddickFan
Week 18 : Estoril Marto
Week 19 : Madrid CoolyBri
Week 20 : Rome Marto
Week 21 : Nice Puschkin
Week 22 : Roland Garros CoolyBri
Week 24 : Halle Direnan
Week 25 : 'Eastbourne CoolyBri
Week 26 : Wimbledon Tulipe
Week 28 : Newport/Bastad/Stutgart/Umag elluko86
Week 29 : Hamburg Ivanatis
Week 30 : Los Angeles/Kitbuhel
Week 31 : Washinghton/Olympics
Week 32 : Toronto Direnan
Week 33 : Cincinatti
Week 34 : Winstom Salem rvugt
Week 35 : US Open CoolyBri
Week 37 : Davis Cup Semifinals
Week 38 : Metz/St. Petersburg purtov45
Week 39 : Beijing/Tokyo sfar
Week 40 : Shanghai RoddickFan.
Week 41 : Stockholm/Moscow/Vienna Direnan
Week 42 : Basel/Valencia Puschkin
Week 43 : Paris
Week 44 : WTF London
Week 45 : Davis Cup final

dinkulpus
11-23-2011, 07:39 PM
Managing Stats

dinkulpus
11-23-2011, 07:39 PM
Point Distributions

WIMBLEDON
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 20
Losing Pick on Day 3: 50
Losing Pick on Day 4: 110
Losing Pick on Day 5: 180
Losing Pick on Day 6: 300
Losing Pick on Day 7: 430
Losing Pick on Day 8: 750
Losing Pick on Day 9: 1100
Losing Pick on Day 10: 1500
Winning the title: 2000

AO & RG
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 15
Losing Pick on Day 3: 35
Losing Pick on Day 4: 85
Losing Pick on Day 5: 140
Losing Pick on Day 6: 240
Losing Pick on Day 7: 350
Losing Pick on Day 8: 520
Losing Pick on Day 9: 710
Losing Pick on Day 10: 960
Losing Pick on Day 11: 1250
Losing Pick on Day 12: 1600
Winning the title: 2000

USO
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 10
Losing Pick on Day 3: 25
Losing Pick on Day 4: 45
Losing Pick on Day 5: 90
Losing Pick on Day 6: 145
Losing Pick on Day 7: 240
Losing Pick on Day 8: 350
Losing Pick on Day 9: 520
Losing Pick on Day 10: 710
Losing Pick on Day 11: 960
Losing Pick on Day 12: 1250
Losing Pick on Day 13: 1600
Winning the title: 2000


ATP1000
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 15
Losing Pick on Day 3: 40
Losing Pick on Day 4: 90
Losing Pick on Day 5: 180
Losing Pick on Day 6: 340
Losing Pick on Day 7: 600
Winning the title: 1000

Indian Wells & Miami
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 10
Losing Pick on Day 3: 25
Losing Pick on Day 4: 60
Losing Pick on Day 5: 100
Losing Pick on Day 6: 170
Losing Pick on Day 7: 250
Losing Pick on Day 8: 350
Losing Pick on Day 9: 500
Losing Pick on Day 10: 700
Winning the title: 1000


ATP500
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 10
Losing Pick on Day 3: 25
Losing Pick on Day 4: 50
Losing Pick on Day 5: 100
Losing Pick on Day 6: 180
Losing Pick on Day 7: 300
Winning the title: 500

ATP500 (Saturday final)
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 15
Losing Pick on Day 3: 45
Losing Pick on Day 4: 100
Losing Pick on Day 5: 180
Losing Pick on Day 6: 300
Winning the title: 500


ATP250
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 5
Losing Pick on Day 3: 15
Losing Pick on Day 4: 35
Losing Pick on Day 5: 60
Losing Pick on Day 6: 95
Losing Pick on Day 7: 150
Winning the title: 250

ATP250 (Saturday final)
Losing Pick on Day 1: 1
Losing Pick on Day 2: 5
Losing Pick on Day 3: 20
Losing Pick on Day 4: 45
Losing Pick on Day 5: 90
Losing Pick on Day 6: 150
Winning the title: 250


London WTF
Winning pick on Day 1: 100
Winning pick on Day 2: 200
Winning pick on Day 3: 300
Winning pick on Day 4: 400
Winning pick on Day 5: 500
Winning pick on Day 6: 600
Winning pick on Day 7: 1000
Winning pick on Day 8: 1500

sfar
11-24-2011, 12:15 PM
I would like to manage Australian Open, my first GS.

Thank you for moving this, Marto. Always appreciated. :hug:

dinkulpus
11-24-2011, 01:21 PM
I would like to manage Australian Open, my first GS.

Thank you for moving this, Marto. Always appreciated. :hug:

You deserve it :worship:
Thanks and good luck :hug:

cswab22
11-25-2011, 08:55 PM
Can I take Doha?

dinkulpus
11-28-2011, 06:28 PM
Can I take Doha?

Of course you can take, but we will vote for which tournament :wavey:
It will be Doha/Brisbane or Chennai :worship:

sfar
12-17-2011, 09:35 PM
Noone for Sydney/Auckland?

dinkulpus
12-17-2011, 09:46 PM
Noone for Sydney/Auckland?

For now no one, unless if you want to take it :p

sfar
12-17-2011, 09:47 PM
For now no one, unless if you want to take it :p

I have Australian Open the following week, too much for me. ;)

dinkulpus
12-17-2011, 09:49 PM
I have Australian Open the following week, too much for me. ;)

There are three weeks till start, if no one take it I also can manage with delay updates :p

abollo
12-18-2011, 06:28 PM
I'll take Week 2 : Sydney/Auckland

sfar
12-18-2011, 09:23 PM
I'll take Week 2 : Sydney/Auckland

:yeah:

Spain07
12-21-2011, 09:07 PM
Week 5 please ;)

lucian_iasi
01-02-2012, 10:05 AM
Can I take Rotterdam?

dinkulpus
01-02-2012, 05:21 PM
Can I take Rotterdam?

Of course :wavey:

Nixer
01-06-2012, 05:07 PM
Hi guys, just wanted to ask if my pick in Doha Suicide was correct
First, I picked Federer as main, Nadal as BU. Then, I saw that Roger withdrew, so my main was now Nadal, and I decided to change it to Monfils instead - before the first match started. The schedule was 1. Nadal Monfils 2. Federer - Tsonga. I changed the pick about 30 minuted before the play started.

So was the change correct? Am I alive till next day?

RoddickFan.
01-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Hi guys, just wanted to ask if my pick in Doha Suicide was correct
First, I picked Federer as main, Nadal as BU. Then, I saw that Roger withdrew, so my main was now Nadal, and I decided to change it to Monfils instead - before the first match started. The schedule was 1. Nadal Monfils 2. Federer - Tsonga. I changed the pick about 30 minuted before the play started.

So was the change correct? Am I alive till next day?

From my understanding, your change can be accepted since the pick was made before the first point of the day was played and does not bend the rules. Personally if I was the manager I would have accepted your pick, since picking Monfils would have put you at a disadvantage on paper anyway.

However, I could also see where the manager was coming from as this gives you an unfair advantage as compared to the other who did not know about the last-minute withdrawal, thus not having a chance to change their pick if they wanted to before the start of the Nadal-Monfils match.

Anyway, I guess I don't have the authority to decide, probably we shall wait for the suicide board people to give a proper response ;)

RoddickFan.
01-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Can I take Dubai/Acapulco? :)

Nixer
01-07-2012, 03:34 PM
From my understanding, your change can be accepted since the pick was made before the first point of the day was played and does not bend the rules. Personally if I was the manager I would have accepted your pick, since picking Monfils would have put you at a disadvantage on paper anyway.

However, I could also see where the manager was coming from as this gives you an unfair advantage as compared to the other who did not know about the last-minute withdrawal, thus not having a chance to change their pick if they wanted to before the start of the Nadal-Monfils match.

Anyway, I guess I don't have the authority to decide, probably we shall wait for the suicide board people to give a proper response ;)

Actually, the manager accepted my pick, but before that someone said that it may be incorrect. So I wanted to clarify the situation to be sure. Thanks for your answer though :)

Tulipe
01-23-2012, 10:36 PM
I'll take Memphis, if nobody has yet :)

And I know it's a bit early, but I'm taking Monte-Carlo too :) Want to have my favorite tournament ensured :)

lucian_iasi
01-26-2012, 04:27 AM
I want to take Miami and Madrid too...if it's possible

Vilnietė
01-26-2012, 08:30 PM
which tournament will be played on week 5?

abollo
01-29-2012, 08:52 PM
When will the thread for week 5 be opened?

supertec
01-29-2012, 09:50 PM
What about this week's tournament?:confused::confused:

Spain07
01-29-2012, 09:58 PM
Thread is opened (Vina del Mar):
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=11701800

Sorry, I wanted open this earlier, but I had problems with computer (like always) :o

coolfish1103
01-29-2012, 10:00 PM
which tournament will be played on week 5?

Montpellier based on the poll.

I think Spain07 forgot he committed to this tournament.

coolfish1103
01-29-2012, 10:04 PM
Thread is opened (Vina del Mar):
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=11701800

Sorry, I wanted open this earlier, but I had problems with computer (like always) :o

So are you able to run the tournament?

It should be Montpellier based on the poll, not Vina del Mar...

rvugt
01-29-2012, 10:04 PM
Ok, I already thought so. Spain, please open another thread in Montpellier, I opened an emergency thread!

Spain07
01-29-2012, 10:05 PM
So are you able to run the tournament?

It should be Montpellier based on the poll, not Vina del Mar...

But due to late opening a thread, I decided to run it in Vina del Mar.

rvugt
01-29-2012, 10:07 PM
But due to late opening a thread, I decided to run it in Vina del Mar.

Strange decision in my opinion. Just open the Montpellier! It doesn't start until 3 PM CET!

dinkulpus
01-29-2012, 10:08 PM
But due to late opening a thread, I decided to run it in Vina del Mar.

We will play Montpellier, there are more than 12 hours for picks :p

coolfish1103
01-29-2012, 10:12 PM
We will play Montpellier, there are more than 12 hours for picks :p

Yeah.. it's like 15 vs. 20 hours in difference.

Spain07
01-29-2012, 10:14 PM
Yeah.. it's like 15 vs. 20 hours in difference.

OK, I opened thread in Montpellier.

Sorry for that problems :o

natashha
01-29-2012, 10:36 PM
:wavey:

Been a while since I haven't visited MTF,
Bumped only today after the spectacular final,
Had to check out how my used to be favourite game is doing :)
Glad to see it's very much alive :worship:
Cheers to everyone and keep with the good job!

:wavey:

cswab22
02-05-2012, 12:35 AM
Week 15 please

rvugt
03-29-2012, 07:07 AM
Okay, I don't know who are in the board, but apparantly the Miami tournament isn't going as it should. There will be 11 days, because we have 2 days of QF. So I guess the points have to be changed, but in the thread the manager doesn't reply to the questions!

CoolyBri
03-29-2012, 07:56 AM
The four QF matches always were one day in Miami, so I guess we'll stick with that.
As there were no discussions about this in the last year(s) and no rules have been changed since then, this is the logical thing to do.

EDIT: Obviously it's too late for that, especially with one player loosing on the first day of QFs. So we'll have to have an additional day and change the points distribution...
Anyway, does anyone know who is part of the Suicide board and can decide this? :)

RoddickFan.
03-29-2012, 08:18 AM
Well, I'm not part of the board, but what I think is that yes, the QF should be split into 2 days, and obviously the point distribution should be changed to an 11 day one. We always pick according to the matches scheduled on each DAY and not each ROUND. This is done in the slams as well where QFs are split into 2 days of play, so I don't see why we should change anything for Miami as there is still a chance to win the tournament. Just my 2 cents :shrug:

RoddickFan.
03-29-2012, 08:19 AM
Week 17 please :)

jervisjames
04-24-2012, 06:42 AM
Well, I'm not part of the board, but what I think is that yes, the QF should be split into 2 days, and obviously the point distribution should be changed to an 11 day one. We always pick according to the matches scheduled on each DAY and not each ROUND. This is done in the slams as well where QFs are split into 2 days of play, so I don't see why we should change anything for Miami as there is still a chance to win the tournament. Just my 2 cents :shrug:

The exception to this is if they play the Semifinals over 2 days... if they are split in the tournament, no-one can win the Suicide Tennis title. You can't pick both semifinal winners and then pick the champion because you already picked both finalists in the semis. :lol:

But yeah, I don;t know if there is a board for ST? I'm not sure about 2 days for QF? 50-50...
It does make it extremely hard to take the title if the QFs are split as you need to pick the QF who you think will lose in the semifinal for both halves of the draw, otherwise, you cannot win the title.

jervisjames
04-24-2012, 06:44 AM
I can take Roland Garros and Halle

sfar
04-24-2012, 07:56 AM
There is no manager for next week!!!

I won't be available, I can't do it.

dinkulpus
04-24-2012, 08:30 AM
I always fill the gaps, so no problem I will make it, please someone to open a poll, because I can't do it from phone.

sfar
04-24-2012, 09:29 AM
I always fill the gaps, so no problem I will make it, please someone to open a poll, because I can't do it from phone.

Poll open.

Direnan
05-03-2012, 03:39 AM
I can manage =)

jervisjames
05-04-2012, 06:02 AM
Sorry, but I have to withdraw my request to manage Halle and Roland Garros. Too much happening in my life and need to pull back from MTF for a little while.

Direnan
05-04-2012, 11:58 AM
Sorry, but I have to withdraw my request to manage Halle and Roland Garros. Too much happening in my life and need to pull back from MTF for a little while.
Good Luck in resolution of your problems, brother. =)

Direnan
05-06-2012, 08:28 PM
Haven't Suicide in Madrid?

Jovard
05-06-2012, 08:35 PM
OMG, please someone open Suicide in Madrid, fast! I already sucked out in my TF games, I need something to play :lol:

Direnan
05-06-2012, 08:40 PM
OMG, please someone open Suicide in Madrid, fast! I already sucked out in my TF games, I need something to play :lol:
I can Open, but, I need authorization of Suicide Board... =/

CoolyBri
05-06-2012, 08:41 PM
I have just opened a thread.
I will take over if lucian_iasi doesn't show up.

Direnan
05-06-2012, 08:43 PM
Very Thanks! :worship:

Puschkin
05-07-2012, 05:34 PM
I can do Nice, an easy one to start with. Any advice would be welcome by pm.

I have been managing "Predict the score" which unfortunately is not played anymore due to lack of managers.

Direnan
05-07-2012, 05:44 PM
Halle/Quenss and tournaments of USOPEN Series.

BU - RG.

Direnan
05-07-2012, 06:52 PM
I can Rome, if necessary =)

rvugt
05-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Same here, I could do Rome if it is necessary. Only not much time on final sunday, so no quick final update!

sfar
05-07-2012, 07:48 PM
I could manage something too if there are no managers, but I prefer not as I'm very busy lately.

Direnan
05-07-2012, 08:17 PM
Suicide have spreadsheet?

Tulipe
05-07-2012, 08:20 PM
I would take Wimbledon if it's not taken yet.

dinkulpus
05-07-2012, 08:20 PM
Suicide have spreadsheet?

No :wavey:

rvugt
05-12-2012, 09:38 PM
Just a remark, shouldn't we be asking managers to open the thread before Saturday evening. Just in the case no manager appears, no it is always hasty for someone to take over. If managers just make the thread before Saturday, we know they will be there and there won't be any scary moments whether a tournament will take place!

dinkulpus
05-12-2012, 09:44 PM
I will take Rome :p

sfar
05-12-2012, 09:51 PM
Just a remark, shouldn't we be asking managers to open the thread before Saturday evening. Just in the case no manager appears, no it is always hasty for someone to take over. If managers just make the thread before Saturday, we know they will be there and there won't be any scary moments whether a tournament will take place!

I totally agree.

Tulipe
05-13-2012, 03:41 PM
Just reminding that I wanted Wimbledon, so that nobody steals it from me :p

And yes, definitely the managers should open the thread on Saturday.

rvugt
05-26-2012, 10:28 PM
Who will run Roland Garros? And will it start on monday or tomorrow?

Si_yi
05-26-2012, 11:35 PM
Where is the RG thread?

CoolyBri
05-27-2012, 12:19 AM
Suicide always starts on Mondays.
RG is no excemption.

I just saw that the planned manager for RG doesn't have time anymore.
I'll take over :)

ronim1
05-27-2012, 04:51 AM
Suicide always starts on Mondays.
RG is no excemption.

I just saw that the planned manager for RG doesn't have time anymore.
I'll take over :)

I never understood this rule.
Why don't we change it? At least for Grand slams?

rvugt
05-27-2012, 08:07 AM
I never understood this rule.
Why don't we change it? At least for Grand slams?

Agreeing on this one!

dinkulpus
05-27-2012, 06:22 PM
I never understood this rule.
Why don't we change it? At least for Grand slams?

That should be discuss during off-season :wavey::wavey:

Direnan
05-28-2012, 03:22 AM
I never understood this rule.
Why don't we change it? At least for Grand slams?
I think a good rule.

Direnan
06-13-2012, 02:47 PM
Guys, Retirement, count, or no,as Complete Match?

CoolyBri
06-13-2012, 04:40 PM
Yes, retirements count as completed matches.
Withdrawals don't.

Direnan
06-13-2012, 05:14 PM
Yes, retirements count as completed matches.
Withdrawals don't.
Thank's =D

elluko86
06-14-2012, 03:34 AM
I would be interested in Managing a tournament for the first time,

If no one is down for either Week 25: 's-Hertogenbosch/Eastbourne or Week 28: Newport/Bastad/Stutgart/Umag I would be interested in managing one of those weeks, just let me know which one is being done for each of those weeks.

Many thanks.

CoolyBri
06-17-2012, 08:50 PM
No one's signed as a manager again this week? :confused:
I'll open a thread for Eastbourne and will take over if no one else is there.

supertec
06-17-2012, 09:11 PM
Thanks CoolyBri :)

Direnan
06-17-2012, 10:45 PM
CoolyBri :worship:

elluko86
06-17-2012, 11:00 PM
No one's signed as a manager again this week? :confused:
I'll open a thread for Eastbourne and will take over if no one else is there.

As I posted above, I was interested in managing a tournament this week for the first time, I wasn't sure if I needed the okay and for my post to be replied to or not, and it wasn't so I didn't start one.
I will now take the week after Wimbledon for Newport/Bastad/Stutgart/Umag.

Thanks.

dinkulpus
06-19-2012, 01:31 AM
Sorry, I was busy and didn't see your post above, welcome to managers club :wavey:

Direnan
06-19-2012, 04:25 AM
If nobody can until Friday, I'll take Wimbledom.

Ivanatis
06-19-2012, 05:35 AM
I think Tulipe said, she will do Wimbledon, unless she withdrew?

I can take Hamburg.

dinkulpus
06-19-2012, 08:10 AM
Yes Tulipe will manage Wimbeldon, Diego next free is week 30 Los Angeles/Kitzbuhel

Direnan
06-19-2012, 11:55 AM
Yes Tulipe will manage Wimbeldon, Diego next free is week 30 Los Angeles/Kitzbuhel
ok. =)

If necessary, I can Olympic Games, too.

Tulipe
06-26-2012, 03:51 PM
Question: if a suicider submitted "Baker" as a pick, but two Bakers (Jamie and Brian) play that day, do I automatically use the BU pick?

I did it that way, just want to be sure.

sfar
06-27-2012, 01:58 PM
Question: if a suicider submitted "Baker" as a pick, but two Bakers (Jamie and Brian) play that day, do I automatically use the BU pick?

I did it that way, just want to be sure.

I think you did the right thing.

elluko86
07-08-2012, 02:37 AM
Hey guys I haven't forgotten that its my turn to post Suicide this week, I currently am working overtime, will post the Suicide when I get home in about 5 hours :)

Thanks guys,
elluko86.

elluko86
07-08-2012, 08:24 AM
Hey guys I haven't forgotten that its my turn to post Suicide this week, I currently am working overtime, will post the Suicide when I get home in about 5 hours :)

Thanks guys,
elluko86.

And it appears someone has already created a Suicide this week without checking this thread :mad::(

rvugt
07-08-2012, 08:45 AM
Where are the polls found which tournament will happen nowadays? See none of them in the suicide folder.

elluko86
07-09-2012, 02:51 AM
And it appears someone has already created a Suicide this week without checking this thread :mad::(

Well as someone has created a Suicide already without checking this forum and people have already posted their day 1 picks there isn't much I can do about it, so If no one has taken the Canadian Open in Toronto I would like to manage that one as my first tournament.

Thanks. :wavey:

Direnan
07-09-2012, 12:58 PM
I can manage Washington and USOPEN. =)

CoolyBri
07-22-2012, 05:45 PM
The Olympics are approaching and I just realized that we never talked about the points distribution.
I checked the thread from 2008, back then there was one day less (and different points distributions were used overall) so those points can hardly be used.

My suggestion:

Day 1: 1
Day 2: 15
Day 3: 40
Day 4: 90
Day 5: 160
Day 6: 250
Day 7: 360
Day 8: 500
Winner: 750

Back in 2008 all players who lost on semi final-day could send a pick for the Bronze Medal match and get some extra points (in addition to my suggestion: 430). I think that's a nice idea which should be used again.

What do other players think?

Direnan
07-22-2012, 06:34 PM
The Olympics are approaching and I just realized that we never talked about the points distribution.
I checked the thread from 2008, back then there was one day less (and different points distributions were used overall) so those points can hardly be used.

My suggestion:

Day 1: 1
Day 2: 15
Day 3: 40
Day 4: 90
Day 5: 160
Day 6: 250
Day 7: 360
Day 8: 500
Winner: 750

Back in 2008 all players who lost on semi final-day could send a pick for the Bronze Medal match and get some extra points (in addition to my suggestion: 430). I think that's a nice idea which should be used again.

What do other players think?
I agree. And idea for bronze medal is very cool.

Tulipe
07-22-2012, 08:20 PM
Do we have a manager for this week? No thread is open yet...

Jovard
07-22-2012, 08:48 PM
No thread for Suicide opened yet. I dont know where will it be created and I go to bed now, not sure if I can post my pick in the morning. So, if there will be Suicide in Kitzbühel then my picks are..
Pick: klizan
BU: Volandri

CoolyBri
07-22-2012, 09:02 PM
Here we go again :lol:
I'm taking over and open a thread for LA, so that everybody has enough time to post his pick.

sfar
07-22-2012, 09:05 PM
The Olympics are approaching and I just realized that we never talked about the points distribution.
I checked the thread from 2008, back then there was one day less (and different points distributions were used overall) so those points can hardly be used.

My suggestion:

Day 1: 1
Day 2: 15
Day 3: 40
Day 4: 90
Day 5: 160
Day 6: 250
Day 7: 360
Day 8: 500
Winner: 750

Back in 2008 all players who lost on semi final-day could send a pick for the Bronze Medal match and get some extra points (in addition to my suggestion: 430). I think that's a nice idea which should be used again.

What do other players think?
I think you're the most indicated person to sort this out, as you produce the rankings.

So thumbs up for you, I totally agree with your point distribution.

sfar
07-22-2012, 09:07 PM
Here we go again :lol:
I'm taking over and open a thread for LA, so that everybody has enough time to post his pick.

I'll try to manage something in September-October... :rolleyes:

CoolyBri
07-26-2012, 08:39 PM
Another thing I just realized about the Olympics: Matches start on Saturday.
We usually have Suicide starts on Monday - and on such a short notice there's no other option than doing that, I guess.
So we'd have a 6-day-tournament and I'll change the points distribution. Or should we start on Saturday as it is a special tournament anyway?

sfar
07-26-2012, 09:44 PM
Another thing I just realized about the Olympics: Matches start on Saturday.
We usually have Suicide starts on Monday - and on such a short notice there's no other option than doing that, I guess.
So we'd have a 6-day-tournament and I'll change the points distribution. Or should we start on Saturday as it is a special tournament anyway?

It ends on Sunday, so we could start on Monday as usual...

rvugt
07-27-2012, 09:15 AM
Another thing I just realized about the Olympics: Matches start on Saturday.
We usually have Suicide starts on Monday - and on such a short notice there's no other option than doing that, I guess.
So we'd have a 6-day-tournament and I'll change the points distribution. Or should we start on Saturday as it is a special tournament anyway?

I am in favour of starting on Saturday. It is a special tournament anyway! More days is always nice!

sfar
07-27-2012, 12:37 PM
I am in favour of starting on Saturday. It is a special tournament anyway! More days is always nice!

The problem is that you can end up with 10 players playing the game, people are used to check on Saturday or Sunday for the Suicide Tennis thread.

purtov45
07-28-2012, 06:19 AM
I can do Olympics. Late, two hours prior to the beginning... But the Frank Winkler's thread will help...

rvugt
07-28-2012, 07:58 AM
Just wondering, as of the discussion here, who is in the board of this game? So who finally decides on these things? Or is there no board?

CoolyBri
07-28-2012, 08:25 AM
Just wondering, as of the discussion here, who is in the board of this game? So who finally decides on these things? Or is there no board?

There is one, but it is not really active here.
I just checked: natashha, Björki, 156mphserve, bandtree and ronim1 are on the board.

rvugt
07-28-2012, 10:17 AM
There is one, but it is not really active here.
I just checked: natashha, Björki, 156mphserve, bandtree and ronim1 are on the board.

Maybe a change and some new boardmembers might be elected. As natashha isn't playing for some time, right?

purtov45
07-28-2012, 02:48 PM
Back in 2008 all players who lost on semi final-day could send a pick for the Bronze Medal match and get some extra points (in addition to my suggestion: 430). I think that's a nice idea which should be used again.

What do other players think?
When picks to do lost, the idea of a suicide is broken.
I have other offer: to declare winners 3 persons. At equality of picks to apply tie-procedure.

The players who have borrowed 1, 2 and 3 place, receive a gold, silver and bronze medal.

In the event of a tie the following will occur:

a) The player who had more picks during the tournament is deemed the winner.

b)If still in the event of a tie for first, second and third place, the player who has the best difference of the won and lost games, will be determined as having won.

c) In the event that they are still tied, then receive a medal of one dignity.

Calculation of a difference of games:

differ(75 64)=4
differ(76 16 64)=-2
differ(26 21 ret.)=differ(26 61 60)=7

ronim1
07-28-2012, 05:30 PM
As there was deceleration of staring not on Monday as usual,I see no other way than staring on Monday.
I never could understand thus rule.

Chris 84
07-28-2012, 07:46 PM
i don't understand why this tournament (the olympics) was started today. i make picks the night before, and there was no thread at that point, plus i know the rule that you can't make any picks after play has started, therefore naturally i didn't check this thread. doubtless, this applies to heaps of people and not just me because it is a very small entry list compared to usual suicide tournaments. it isn't my favourite game, and i don't waste much time thinking about it, therefore it doesn't bother me terribly much. i just think that the decision to start today with a thread that opened 3-4 hours before the start of play is a very poor one.

Björki
07-30-2012, 05:11 AM
people who missed the Saturday (olympics) deadline can now play Washington. That seems the only fair opinion.

I can't find a thread for the board members.

ronim1
07-30-2012, 06:23 AM
people who missed the Saturday (olympics) deadline can now play Washington. That seems the only fair opinion.

I can't find a thread for the board members.

As people say that it would be not fair regarding to those who had already picked two players, maybe we should allow those who started to play on Saturday to use them again if they wish.

this would make it more fair.

rvugt
07-30-2012, 09:40 AM
As people say that it would be not fair regarding to those who had already picked two players, maybe we should allow those who started to play on Saturday to use them again if they wish.

this would make it more fair.

Huh? Olympics and Washington are different tournaments, right? So why would this change anything for the olympics?

ronim1
07-30-2012, 12:39 PM
I was referring to OG, not Wahington.

Björki
07-30-2012, 12:42 PM
I was referring to OG, not Wahington.

who missed the deadline for the Olympics (Sat) can now play Washington instead. But who already picked on Saturday -- should not be allowed to play Washington bec he already picked.

(Otherwise people who lose on Sunday at the Olympics want to play W now as well? :confused: )

Or did I missunderstand anything?

156mphserve
07-30-2012, 01:21 PM
I agree, let them move to Washington.

I understand wanting to let everyone play, but you can't do this in a way that gives an advantage to those who started on Monday, and disadvantaging those who were here Saturday.

Björki
07-30-2012, 03:58 PM
@ronim1 do you agree about the Washington tournament instead of Olympia (day 3). If so we would be 3 of 5 board members with this opinion which should be enough.

where are bandtree and natashha? maybe we really need 1 or 2 new board members.

Direnan
07-30-2012, 05:27 PM
who missed the deadline for the Olympics (Sat) can now play Washington instead. But who already picked on Saturday -- should not be allowed to play Washington bec he already picked.

(Otherwise people who lose on Sunday at the Olympics want to play W now as well? :confused: )

Or did I missunderstand anything?
I think just this, and I dont understand the reclamations about the Olympics start in Saturday.

Björki
07-30-2012, 07:50 PM
people are still picking the Olympics instead of Washington.

If it stay like this, I dont think the points are fair imho.
People would started on Monday should get the same points like in Washington.

Jovard
07-30-2012, 08:50 PM
So, will there be Suicide in Washington? There are 9 participants and play has started.

156mphserve
07-30-2012, 09:34 PM
So, will there be Suicide in Washington? There are 9 participants and play has started.

That's the point.

Washington is only for those who missed the Olympics because of the Saturday start, so if you played the Olympics you don't play washington. Everyone gets exactly 1 event, it was only expected to have a few people

Direnan
07-30-2012, 10:06 PM
That's the point.

Washington is only for those who missed the Olympics because of the Saturday start, so if you played the Olympics you don't play washington. Everyone gets exactly 1 event, it was only expected to have a few people
Exact!

purtov45
07-31-2012, 02:04 AM
Dear board!

1. Please inform me your decision where play Chris84 and Kamui010, in Washington or London.

2. Who will operate Toronto and Cincinnati? It is the list of managers of 2012.

CoolyBri 4
lucian_iasi 3
Tulipe 3
cswab22 2
Marto 2
RoddickFan 2
abollo 1
coolfish1103 1
Direnan 1
elluko86 1
Ivanatis 1
purtov45 1
Puschkin 1
sfar 1
Spain07 1

Direnan
07-31-2012, 02:31 AM
I can manage 1 master.

purtov45
07-31-2012, 03:27 AM
I can manage 1 master.
OK. You in Toronto?
I can in Cincinnati.

Direnan
07-31-2012, 03:54 AM
OK. You in Toronto?
I can in Cincinnati.
Ok. =)
I thought I managed more tournaments... Oo rsrs

Suicide is the game more simple for manager.

Good Luck, for we.

sfar
07-31-2012, 07:10 AM
In August it will be dificult for me to manage, maybe I'll give it a try in September.

BTW, where are the board member? Shouldn't we vote for new ones?

ronim1
07-31-2012, 07:52 AM
In August it will be dificult for me to manage, maybe I'll give it a try in September.

BTW, where are the board member? Shouldn't we vote for new ones?

Yes, I agree about voting for board members.

ronim1
07-31-2012, 07:59 AM
@ronim1 do you agree about the Washington tournament instead of Olympia (day 3). If so we would be 3 of 5 board members with this opinion which should be enough.

where are bandtree and natashha? maybe we really need 1 or 2 new board members.

Sorry about the late reply.

What ever disicion will be made, there are going to be those who feel that it was the wrong one.

The whole OG was handled wrongly.
The question now is how to minimize the damage.

IMO

1) Whoever plays in Washington, let him/her, as long as he/she didn't loose in OG.
2) Whoever started in OG not in the first round, let him start on Monday.
3) In order to make it "fair" for those who started Saturday: Give them the possibility to choose the players the have chosen in the first 2 days again if they wish.


I think this will make it fair for all players.

As I posted below, I think it's time to vote foe board members.

rvugt
07-31-2012, 08:03 AM
Sorry about the late reply.

What ever disicion will be made, there are going to be those who feel that it was the wrong one.

The whole OG was handled wrongly.
The question now is how to minimize the damage.

IMO

1) Whoever plays in Washington, let him/her, as long as he/she didn't loose in OG.
2) Whoever started in OG not in the first round, let him start on Monday.
3) In order to make it "fair" for those who started Saturday: Give them the possibility to choose the players the have chosen in the first 2 days again if they wish.


I think this will make it fair for all players.

As I posted below, I think it's time to vote foe board members.

I think there is no problem in just letting the OG start on Saturday and Washington on Monday. In this case everybody can play this week.

For the board, I agree!

ronim1
07-31-2012, 09:57 AM
I think there is no problem in just letting the OG start on Saturday and Washington on Monday. In this case everybody can play this week.

For the board, I agree!

What about the opportunity for those who started onSaturday to use their picks again?

sfar
07-31-2012, 10:10 AM
What about the opportunity for those who started onSaturday to use their picks again?

I personally think it should have been a Monday start at the OG, as nobody said it was a Saturday start here and the thread was opened on Friday night.

And as it did start on Saturday, those who missed the deadline should have played in Washington with a regular Monday start.

For example, I think it's not fair if someone gets 7 winners right (starting on Monday) gets the same points than someone who gets 9 winners right (starting on Saturday). :shrug:

Björki
07-31-2012, 11:50 AM
I personally think it should have been a Monday start at the OG, as nobody said it was a Saturday start here and the thread was opened on Friday night.

And as it did start on Saturday, those who missed the deadline should have played in Washington with a regular Monday start.

For example, I think it's not fair if someone gets 7 winners right (starting on Monday) gets the same points than someone who gets 9 winners right (starting on Saturday). :shrug:

+1 that's exactly my opinion too. :yeah:

but as not even 3 board members have the same opinion I can't do anything more I am afraid.

ronim1
07-31-2012, 06:15 PM
So where do we go from here?
Should we just let things happen as they are now?

Direnan
07-31-2012, 07:09 PM
So where do we go from here?
Should we just let things happen as they are now?
Very easy. Who not pick in OG saturday, could wager in Wasington, in Monday.

In my mind dont have problem.

purtov45
08-01-2012, 01:27 AM
Seppi (muller)
This is bullshit by the way. Monday start is the rule.
I have not checked up this thesis. But it is incorrect.
Now I have read through 'discussion 2010' and have understood, that the rule was accepted:
If actual tournament begins on Sunday then ST begins on Monday.
Consequently, this rule does not act OG, and it should begin on Saturday.

coolfish1103
08-01-2012, 01:56 AM
So where do we go from here?
Should we just let things happen as they are now?

Eventually you will hear other people like me complain if people who did not pick days 1, 2 and decided they don't have to move to Washington get 2 byes and same amount of points.

purtov45
08-01-2012, 04:48 AM
.....

sfar
08-01-2012, 09:13 AM
I think that it should remain the same but with these points for those who started on Monday:

Day 1: 5 30/7
Day 2: 15 31/7
Day 3: 40 1/8
Day 4: 90 2/8
Day 5: 160 3/8
Day 6: 250 4/8
Day 7: 360 5/8

Anything else will be unfair for those who started on Saturday.

Björki
08-01-2012, 10:21 AM
I agree with sfar.

Direnan
08-01-2012, 01:17 PM
I disagree.

The suicide tournament ,started in saturday, then after saturday, they can't acept picks, simple.

ronim1
08-01-2012, 01:35 PM
Are you all aware that according to purtpv34's player's list we are talking about 3 people?

A lot of fuss about a small thing.

As nobody excepted my initial proposition, let's agree on sfar's one.

sfar
08-01-2012, 01:36 PM
I disagree.

The suicide tournament ,started in saturday, then after saturday, they can't acept picks, simple.

But, as it is now, the better way to go is to give less points to those who started on Monday. It wouldn't be very good for the game to say: "The people who started on Monday can play no more".

I think we should have thought this over before, but now that's done, let's get along well.

Direnan
08-01-2012, 01:51 PM
If the majority, or the board, decide this, I don't more will reclaim.

But, my opinion is different.

Emrys
08-01-2012, 07:14 PM
Something else...

What if 4 players finish with Day 8 winner (and one of them started on monday) , they will all get the maximum points (or whatever you guys decide :lol:)

BUT... we all know at the end of the week there's a ranking with the players who won and who's the FINAL winner. (less games & sets over the whole week)

How you gonna fix that with someone who has 2 bye's :tape:

For example:

Player A : 0/2, 0/5, 1/9, 0/6, 0/5, 1/12, 0/8, 1/10 = 3/57
Player B: Bye, Bye, 0/5, 1/10, 0/9, 1/11, 0/7, 1/10 = 3/52

Then player B would win cause Player A lost 5 more games ? (but he played two more matches) :p

Maybe it won't come that far, since 2 of them already picked Djokovic, but you never know...

CoolyBri
08-01-2012, 08:17 PM
BUT... we all know at the end of the week there's a ranking with the players who won and who's the FINAL winner. (less games & sets over the whole week)


On MTF there isn't. Everyone surviving the final wins.

Emrys
08-01-2012, 08:20 PM
On MTF there isn't. Everyone surviving the final wins.

Ok :yeah:

purtov45
08-02-2012, 05:10 AM
Day 1: 5 30/7
Day 2: 15 31/7
Day 3: 40 1/8
Day 4: 90 2/8
Day 5: 160 3/8
Day 6: 250 4/8
Day 7: 360 5/8
Probably you wished to offer
Day 6: 250 5/8
winner 360

sfar
08-02-2012, 06:00 AM
Probably you wished to offer

Surely, but the point is that the player gets points for days played, if he plays 9 days he surely deserves more points than if he plays only 7.

Björki
08-02-2012, 06:41 AM
it's correct usually it starts Monday. but there was because there was NO restart, give them less points. They really dont deserve the same points.

everyone should be happy.

ronim1
08-02-2012, 01:39 PM
But, as it is now, the better way to go is to give less points to those who started on Monday. It wouldn't be very good for the game to say: "The people who started on Monday can play no more".

I think we should have thought this over before, but now that's done, let's get along well.

I agree.

If the guys who started on monday played 7days instead of 9 days, they sould be given less points, let's say 20% less.

Direnan
08-10-2012, 12:49 AM
DOnt have OOP for tomorrow, in Toronto, had rain delay today.

Then, what I make?

Direnan
08-10-2012, 12:51 AM
I can use matches for QF for Day 5, matches for Semi Finals for Day 6 and Matches of finals for Day 7.

rvugt
08-10-2012, 07:14 AM
DOnt have OOP for tomorrow, in Toronto, had rain delay today.

Then, what I make?

You are doing it fine. The new matches on the schedule are the ones for day 5!

Direnan
08-19-2012, 10:13 AM
Who will take Salem?

rvugt
08-19-2012, 11:36 AM
I can take it! I guess it will start on Monday as well, right?

CoolyBri
08-19-2012, 07:46 PM
Monday start it is :yeah:

Direnan
08-19-2012, 07:55 PM
I can take it! I guess it will start on Monday as well, right?
Thanks.

CoolyBri
08-22-2012, 10:32 PM
We still need managers for all the remaining tournaments 2012 (US Open, Metz/St.Petersburg, Bangkok/Kuala Lumpur, Beijing/Tokyo, Shanghai, Vienna/Stockholm/Moscow, Valencia/Basel, Paris, WTF).

I can take the US Open.
Any volunteers for other tournaments?

purtov45
08-23-2012, 06:34 AM
I can take Metz and St.Petersburg

CoolyBri
08-23-2012, 07:47 AM
I can take Metz and St.Petersburg

:yeah:
But it's only one of them, they're played in the same week. You can either open a poll for the players to choose on or choose one yourself :)

purtov45
08-24-2012, 08:42 AM
I can make both of tournament.
It is admissible?

CoolyBri
08-24-2012, 09:22 AM
We only have one suicide tournament a week.
And as Metz and St.Petersburg are played in the same week, we only have Metz or St.Petersburg. We won't have both of them.

Direnan
08-24-2012, 01:46 PM
I can take USOPEN, but dont have time for update correct. My updates will have delay.

Take Beijing/Tokyo (Will choice only one, correct?)

CoolyBri
08-24-2012, 04:14 PM
I can take USOPEN, but dont have time for update correct. My updates will have delay.
I'll take the US Open. I will have time for timely updates :)

Take Beijing/Tokyo (Will choice only one, correct?)

:yeah: You can choose one or open a poll and let the players vote :)

Direnan
08-24-2012, 05:22 PM
I'll take the US Open. I will have time for timely updates :)



:yeah: You can choose one or open a poll and let the players vote :)
thanks =)

156mphserve
08-24-2012, 10:11 PM
The new Suicide tennis board has been formed. It will consist of 156mphserve, CoolyBri, Direnan, bandtree, and rvugt. Any questions or concerns please PM any or all of us.

I guess this can be listed in the first post(and maybe in the first post of each tournament thread as well so people who don't come here know) if you want.

156mphserve
08-24-2012, 10:12 PM
I can take a tournament in the near future as well. Doesn't matter to me which one, I'll just take one which doesn't have a manager a couple days before it starts

ronim1
08-25-2012, 04:56 AM
The new Suicide tennis board has been formed. It will consist of 156mphserve, CoolyBri, Direnan, bandtree, and rvugt. Any questions or concerns please PM any or all of us.

I guess this can be listed in the first post(and maybe in the first post of each tournament thread as well so people who don't come here know) if you want.


Good luck to all of you.

purtov45
09-01-2012, 04:53 AM
We only have one suicide tournament a week.
And as Metz and St.Petersburg are played in the same week, we only have Metz or St.Petersburg. We won't have both of them.
Well, I choose Metz. Players of the Europe will have for a deadline in addition 2 hours.

purtov45
09-01-2012, 05:20 AM
The new Suicide tennis board has been formed. It will consist of 156mphserve, CoolyBri, Direnan, bandtree, and rvugt. Any questions or concerns please PM any or all of us.
Maybe you will open a thread for communication of board with players? There it is possible to discuss some offers on a season-2013.

rvugt
09-01-2012, 08:51 AM
Well, I choose Metz. Players of the Europe will have for a deadline in addition 2 hours.

Well, this is not the normal procedure. We normally open a poll to ask players which tournament they want to play. I will do this soon for all the coming tournaments. Was thinking about it for some time! I am sorry, but this is.a more democratic way of chosing!


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purtov45
09-02-2012, 06:08 AM
Well, this is not the normal procedure. We normally open a poll to ask players which tournament they want to play. I will do this soon for all the coming tournaments. Was thinking about it for some time! I am sorry, but this is.a more democratic way of chosing!
One poll for all tournaments - fine idea!

Direnan
09-03-2012, 02:19 PM
Well, this is not the normal procedure. We normally open a poll to ask players which tournament they want to play. I will do this soon for all the coming tournaments. Was thinking about it for some time! I am sorry, but this is.a more democratic way of chosing!


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Good! :)

rvugt
09-11-2012, 08:54 PM
Poll is opened for next week and the week after. Please vote for your favorite tournament!

rvugt
09-16-2012, 06:52 PM
Purtov, if you still want the tournament, you can open a thread. I did open one know, so that everybody can start picking. The tournament is St. Petersburg! but remember, purtov, it is yours if you want it!

rvugt
09-21-2012, 07:01 PM
Anybody is willing to take next weeks tournament? It seems to become Kuala Lumpur, but decision can change until tomorrow evening!

Direnan
09-21-2012, 07:41 PM
Anybody is willing to take next weeks tournament? It seems to become Kuala Lumpur, but decision can change until tomorrow evening!
I will manage TT, but, in last case, I can take (if don't have other player).

156mphserve
09-23-2012, 07:29 AM
I can take the tournament next week. But which one will it be. Poll currently has Bangkok up by 1 so I guess it'll be that one, poll isn't closed yet but thread needs to be opened sooner than later

Direnan
09-24-2012, 11:33 AM
I can take Moscow.

Puschkin
09-28-2012, 11:16 AM
I can take Basel or Valencia

rvugt
09-29-2012, 11:18 PM
Next week will be Tokyo, see poll!

Anybody for management? I am away from Wednesday, so I can't take it, otherwise I would have done. If anybody wants it, open a thread in the next 12 hours, as it has to start on Monday in Tokyo time!

Direnan
09-30-2012, 03:04 AM
I am with TT and PAW, in Tokyo. :(

rvugt
09-30-2012, 01:20 PM
Anybody for Tokyo? OOP for Monday is out, so thread should be opened! I will open an emergency thread already, so that everybody can post their picks, but I have no time at all to run this tournament!

Edit: Sorry, sfar took over the job of creating a thread! Great work, but please, could anybody manage?

dinkulpus
10-01-2012, 01:07 PM
I think I update everything on page 1 :cool:

RoddickFan.
10-02-2012, 09:27 AM
Shanghai please :)

sfar
10-06-2012, 09:37 PM
Shanghai please :)

You're managing Shangai or are you asking for someone to take it? If it's the first, please open the thread. :yeah:

156mphserve
10-07-2012, 04:02 AM
I think I update everything on page 1 :cool:

you left out the Bangkok tournament:wavey:

CoolyBri
10-28-2012, 09:51 PM
I can take Paris, as there seems to be no manager yet.

sfar
10-29-2012, 10:05 AM
Thanks Coolybri. :worship:

Direnan
10-29-2012, 02:36 PM
I can take Paris, as there seems to be no manager yet.
Thanks! :worship:

CoolyBri
11-03-2012, 08:18 AM
We need someone to manage the WTF.
Anyone wants to do that?

CoolyBri
11-04-2012, 12:46 PM
It's probably not much work, so I'll do it :)
For next year it might be a good idea to have someone who has an eye on the manager situation, so that we won't have so many threads started very late.

sfar
11-04-2012, 08:49 PM
Thanks Coolybri, I would do that myself, but just got beware of it now. :sad: