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2012 PAW Managers Thread - need managers

dinkulpus
11-23-2011, 07:33 PM
Welcome in the 2012 PAW Managers Thread!


Don't forget that, please :


* if no manager takes a tournament until 1 day before the main draw is released, following the rules above, the tournament is cancelled, the players commited to this tournament are moved to the other(s) of the week (if there's any) and the circuit moves on.


JAN 2
Doha jrm
Chennai coolfish1103
Brisbane jervisjames

JAN 9
Sydney coolfish1103
Auckland appleGirl

JAN 16
Melbourne purtov45

JAN 30
Montpellier Aenea
Zagreb jrm
Santiago Aenea

FEB 13
Sao Paulo MuriloBrasil
Rotterdam coolfish1103
San Jose sdtoot

FEB 20
Marseille qczi
Memphis coolfish1103
Buenos Aires purtov45

FEB 27
Acapulco jrm
Dubai appleGirl
Delray Beach Cava

MAR 5
Indian Wells Aenea

MAR 19
Miami Cava

APR 9
Houston jervisjames
Casablanca jrm

APR 16
Monte-Carlo Boarder35m

APR 23
Barcelona Aenea
Bucharest jrm

APR 30
Estoril appleGirl
Belgrade jrm
Munich KoOlMaNsEaN

MAY 7
Madrid Aenea


MAY 14
Rome Aenea

MAY 21
Nice KoOlMaNsEaN

MAY 28
Paris purtov45

JUN 11
Halle Direnan
London qczi

JUN 18
's-Hertongenbosch Cava
Eastbourne qczi

JUN 25
London purtov45

JUL 9
Newport Direnan
Bastad cancelled
Stuttgart jrm
Umag jrm

JUL 16
Atlanta KoOlMaNsEaN
Gstaad jrm
Hamburg jrm

JUL 23
Los Angeles
Kitbuhel jrm

JUL 30
Washinghton Direnan
London

AUG 6
Toronto jrm

AUG 13
Cincinnati sdtoot

AUG 20
Winston Salem

AUG 27
New York Aenea

SEP 17
Metz jrm
St. Petersburg Boarder35m

SEP 24
Kuala Lumpur sdtoot
Bangkok appleGirl

OCT 1
Beijing applegirl
Tokyo Direnan

OCT 8
Shanghai Aenea

OCT 15
Stockhom Yoav
Moscow purtov45
Vienna jrm

OCT 22
Basel jrm
Valencia Direnan

OCT 29
Paris Aenea

NOV 5
London sdtoot

dinkulpus
11-23-2011, 07:33 PM
PAW scoring points calculation
Formula:

PLAYER'S A ranking pts: A
PLAYER'S B ranking pts: B

Player's A PAW scoring pts: = SQRT (100*B / A) or 10*SQRT(B)/SQRT(A)
Player's B PAW scoring pts: = SQRT (100*A / B) or 10*SQRT(A)/SQRT(B)
(SQRT=square root)

EXAMPLE:

Madrid 2007 Final:

FEDERER, Roger vs NALBANDIAN, David

FEDERER, Roger rank pts: 7355
NALBANDIAN, David rank pts: 1195

FEDERER, Roger PAW Scoring pts = SQRT (100*1195/7355) = 4.03 = 4
NALBANDIAN, David PAW Scoring pts = SQRT (100*7355/1195) = 24.81 = 25

FEDERER, Roger vs NALBANDIAN, David ..........(4-25)

Note:

1. The ranking list to be used for PAW scoring points is the ranking at the time of the draw,
normally it's the previous week's ranking (but in Indian Wells and Miami case
the draw comes out AFTER the new ranking is released)

2. Round off all scoring pts to the nearest integer, eg. 10.49 = 10 but 10.50 = 11.

3. In case of unranked player or a player who has less than 40 ranking pts,
he is allocated 40 pts for the calculation of PAW scoring points.


For beginning manager


All managers, please don't forget about the name format in ranking table which I've mentioned here (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=3473997#post3473997)
Name has exactly 23 symbols (letters),
thank you :wavey:



ZIP file includes simple template excel sheets for 13, 16, 26-picks paw and special Evita's Templates, it can be easy modified by inserting (or deleting) additional lines and columns.
http://www.menstennisforums.com/photos/data/500/paw.jpg (http://www.pawforum.ovh.org/stuff/paw.zip)

purtov45
11-25-2011, 12:53 PM
I can Melbourne?

jrm
11-28-2011, 12:18 PM
starting with Doha, as usual :wavey:

MuriloBrasil
11-28-2011, 05:52 PM
Well, I'll try to be manager one time next year!

I want the ATP São Paulo, that is on the schedule as Costa do Sauípe in week of Feb 13!

I'll do my better!

Aenea
11-28-2011, 11:41 PM
I have a special request to all managers.

Pls write all the WC either on the bottom of the PAW EL marking the players as being WC or in a separate WC list so it is easy to see if there are WCs and who are they.
Thank you.

kingroger
11-29-2011, 05:41 PM
When do you want me to open the commitments thread?? :wavey:

coolfish1103
12-01-2011, 12:35 AM
For now:

Chennai
Sydney

Aenea
12-02-2011, 10:21 PM
When do you want me to open the commitments thread?? :wavey:

IMO 2 weeks before the 1st tournament starts would be OK.

GL with the management :)

appleGirl
12-05-2011, 04:44 PM
Auckland, Dubai

jervisjames
12-11-2011, 03:48 AM
I can take Brisbane as all the other Australian tournaments have been taken :)

kingroger
12-11-2011, 05:34 PM
I'll post the Commitment thread now so that everybody has more time to commit for January.... I reckon it will be difficult for some people to be online over Christams etc...

KoOlMaNsEaN
12-15-2011, 02:39 AM
I can do Nice again

jervisjames
12-31-2011, 06:52 AM
Hi all, I have just logged in for the first time this week, I will open the Brisbane Thread once I am home from the New Years Celebrations. Cheers and hope you all have a safe Celebration today!

coolfish1103
01-01-2012, 10:32 AM
Rotterdam
Memphis

Aenea
01-17-2012, 02:22 PM
I'll run Montpellier, Zagreb and Santiago. If there is a new manager who wants to give it a try managing PAW I suggest s/he picks one of these 3 tournaments. I'll manage the remaining 2 and will help that manager to get going. I'll be around all the week during those tournaments and can provide whatever help one may need.

Come on, guys :) Give it a try, I'll guide you if needed :D

:wavey:

Signed players so far:

Montpellier - 21, Zagreb - 33, Viņa del Mar - 23

jrm
01-25-2012, 07:56 PM
I'll do Zagreb if you don't mind

Aenea
01-26-2012, 09:00 AM
you can take all 3 :shrug:

qczi
01-26-2012, 01:59 PM
i'll run marseille

jrm
01-27-2012, 11:34 PM
you can take all 3 :shrug:

it seems that i have angered you in a way :confused: your reply was very dubious; after volunteering to do all three, now you are offering them to me :confused:

Aenea
01-28-2012, 03:18 PM
Tina,
Last year when we were discussing PAW in the PAW Board thread there were some players who expressed their wish to try to manage PAW tournaments. I thought there was good time for them to take say Montpellier/Viņa del Mar and I would help them. That's why I volunteered to manage all 3 in an attempt to attract some new managers. But if you wish to manage next week, OK :shrug: and you even can take as many as you wish, you know that I am not a regular manager and what I sign up to manage could be easily ignored. I, on my part, respect others.
Anyway if someone still wants to try managing a tournament I am still available to help. Pls PM me as I am not visiting this thread regularly.

sdtoot
01-28-2012, 08:36 PM
I'll run San Jose, since I am at home all that week.

purtov45
01-31-2012, 01:51 AM
I'll run
FEB 20 Buenos Aires
MAY 28 Paris
JUN 25 London

jrm
02-03-2012, 08:57 PM
I'll do Acapulco

Aenea
02-06-2012, 02:49 PM
I suggest the managers of the commitment's thread and of manager's thread decide on the order of the PAW tournaments as now each one of them have his own order and they contradict each other. I follow the numbering in the commitment's thread as it has always been like that before. Not that it is a big problem but still it will be better if they are synchronized.

coolfish1103
02-19-2012, 04:40 AM
For now:

April
- Casablanca
- Belgrade

June
- Halle
- 's-Hertogenbosch

July
- Newport
- London Olympics

September
- Metz
- Bangkok

October
- Tokyo
- Basel

coolfish1103
02-23-2012, 03:40 PM
For now:

April
- Casablanca
- Belgrade

June
- Halle
- 's-Hertogenbosch

July
- Newport
- London Olympics

September
- Metz
- Bangkok

October
- Tokyo
- Basel

Sorry Marto, please cancel all those tournaments.

Cava
02-23-2012, 05:16 PM
Gulp. I'll do Delray Beach since it's still open :eek:

Cava
03-03-2012, 02:36 AM
Someone want to tag team Indian Wells? :sad:

Aenea
03-03-2012, 07:26 PM
I'll do IW and if you wish we can team up for Miami :wavey:

Cava
03-04-2012, 12:41 AM
Willing to help out as much as I can for either/both tournaments :wavey:

dinkulpus
03-04-2012, 09:11 AM
I also can help with some stuffs for Miami :wavey:

Aenea
03-04-2012, 04:03 PM
That's great, we'll cover March then.
Let's see who can do what and decide for Miami but I think 2 managers per tournament should be enough to do the job.

Cava
03-12-2012, 06:26 PM
I will open Miami next week. Aenea can co-manage unless you want to Marto?

dinkulpus
03-13-2012, 01:35 PM
I will open Miami next week. Aenea can co-manage unless you want to Marto?

I never managed before, but I can help you out, I will be around, because will manage TT :wavey:
Send PM with instructions :wavey:

Aenea
03-14-2012, 04:27 PM
I never managed before, but I can help you out, I will be around, because will manage TT :wavey:
Send PM with instructions :wavey:


MAR 19
Miami Cava (with Marto co-manager)


I thought a new manager needed PAW Board approval if not permission in order to manage a big tournament (at least that is what you were telling before to rookies who wanted to manage PAW).
Do I have to understand this is only valid for ordinary posters and not for PAW "officials"?

dinkulpus
03-15-2012, 08:32 PM
I thought a new manager needed PAW Board approval if not permission in order to manage a big tournament (at least that is what you were telling before to rookies who wanted to manage PAW).
Do I have to understand this is only valid for ordinary posters and not for PAW "officials"?

I just offer my help, and there is a diffs to help to main manager and to manage a tournament alone, but if it is not OK, sorry Cava I can't help you :sad:

dinkulpus
03-15-2012, 10:30 PM
Ok I will wait the decision of the board, when you are ready with your voting please let me know, can I help or not

sdtoot
03-16-2012, 04:55 PM
I don't really think that co-managers should need PAW Board approval to manage any tournaments if they are only providing some support to the main manager. In this specific case, Marto has shown that he is a very efficient manager in many other games on this forum (particularly TT), so this task should not be a problem for him and I fully support him helping out with PAW Management duties.

jrm
03-21-2012, 11:16 PM
for starter:

Casablanca
Bucharest
Belgrade

jervisjames
03-26-2012, 05:40 AM
I can take Houston.

If someone else wants it though, I can do a different tournament later in the month.

KoOlMaNsEaN
04-10-2012, 11:39 PM
Since I end this school year on Apr.27, I'm available for Munich :)

Aenea
04-13-2012, 09:54 AM
No manager for MC :awww:
I am away and it will be difficult but if nobody else take it I'll try manage it. If someone can though, feel free to take it as I can't guarantee I'll do it well if my connection fails me :unsure:

jrm
04-13-2012, 10:57 AM
i was thinking about it ...

Boarder35m
04-13-2012, 05:18 PM
I can manage Monte Carlo :)

Aenea
04-13-2012, 05:49 PM
It would be great if you could help, Alex :)
I'll be back in 10-15 days and will try helping with Madrid/Rome.

Boarder35m
04-13-2012, 05:54 PM
Iīll open the thread now :wavey:

Aenea
04-14-2012, 02:56 PM
Thank you, Alex :hug:

we need a manager for Estoril Open (04/30-05/06) as well.

appleGirl
04-14-2012, 05:00 PM
I'll take Estoril

Aenea
04-19-2012, 07:27 AM
I'll take Estoril

Cool :yeah:

I'll manage Barca, Rome and Wimbledon :)

purtov45
04-27-2012, 05:53 AM
I'll run
FEB 20 Buenos Aires
MAY 28 Paris
JUN 25 London
Cancel JUN 25 London, pls

Aenea
04-27-2012, 10:25 AM
:scratch:

I think some misunderstanding has happened here. Is JUN 25 London actually Wimbledon? I am sure when I last looked at the schedule the last taken tournament was French Open. Probably Marto has missed half of your post, purtov. In that case since you have posted your assignment before me you are the one who is to manage Wimbledon, you don't need to cancel it unless you will be busy at that time. I am sorry for this confusion but to be honest even if I have looked at your post I wouldn't have recognized "JUN 25 London" as Wimbledon.

OK then, I only stay for managing Rome and purtov has Wimbledon if he still wants it.

purtov45
04-28-2012, 05:04 AM
Aenea
No, Marto me has noted as the manager of Wimbledon, but after your announcement has replaced me. I think, it has made properly, and I am excited to it. It is fine, that the manager of such important tournament will be you, as the most skilled!

Aenea
04-28-2012, 06:34 AM
Aenea
No, Marto me has noted as the manager of Wimbledon, but after your announcement has replaced me. I think, it has made properly, and I am excited to it. It is fine, that the manager of such important tournament will be you, as the most skilled!

:(
What? you are actually saying Marto and I cheated you? :confused: That he has put down your name for managing Wimbledon and after seeing my post has deleted you and wrote my name? That is absolutely not true! He wouldn't do something like that. He would have told me if Wimbledon was already taken. Besides I have seen with my own eyes there was no assignment for Wimbledon when I posted.
That is all I can tell you on the matter and I hope Marto comes around some time soon and clears the situation for you as I see you don't believe me.

Boarder35m
04-28-2012, 08:07 AM
If nobody else is found I can manage Madrid :wavey:

purtov45
04-28-2012, 09:04 AM
:(
What? you are actually saying Marto and I cheated you? :confused: That he has put down your name for managing Wimbledon and after seeing my post has deleted you and wrote my name? That is absolutely not true! He wouldn't do something like that. He would have told me if Wimbledon was already taken. Besides I have seen with my own eyes there was no assignment for Wimbledon when I posted.
That is all I can tell you on the matter and I hope Marto comes around some time soon and clears the situation for you as I see you don't believe me.
I saw with my eyes, that in February Wimbledon has been borrowed, and I trust you, that in April it was free. Consequently, it was released in March. But unless there is a need it to find out? :)

Direnan
05-02-2012, 12:46 PM
If anyone help me, I can manage in madrid...

But I prefer start in a small tournament.

Aenea
05-04-2012, 09:28 AM
If nobody else is found I can manage Madrid :wavey:

If anyone help me, I can manage in madrid...

But I prefer start in a small tournament.

Alex has already taken Madrid :)

thx for your offer Direnan, it would be great to have new managers. Once it was recommended new managers to start with smaller tournaments, ATP250. Now I don't know if that has changed but for your own and players' good I suggest you pick some of the tournaments in June, I think Halle/Queens/'s-Hertongenbosch/Eastbourne are still free.

Direnan
05-04-2012, 12:24 PM
Alex has already taken Madrid :)

thx for your offer Direnan, it would be great to have new managers. Once it was recommended new managers to start with smaller tournaments, ATP250. Now I don't know if that has changed but for your own and players' good I suggest you pick some of the tournaments in June, I think Halle/Queens/'s-Hertongenbosch/Eastbourne are still free.
I usually manage tournaments of TT and DTT. My problem is deadlines, due my timezone. But, PAW is more relax, in this case.

I can Halle, London is draw 64.

Aenea
05-04-2012, 04:13 PM
Halle is a good choice for a starter :yeah: so you will have enough time to get into the game. If you need help or assistance just ask, we'll be around to help you.

Aenea
05-04-2012, 06:59 PM
It turns out Alex might not be able to manage Madrid :awww:
Is there somebody free next week to take over in case Alex doesn't show up? If nobody volunteers until tomorrow I'll manage it.

P.S. It was confirmed that Alex won't be available. OK then I'll do Madrid :help: and see if he can take Rome :sobbing:

KoOlMaNsEaN
05-05-2012, 04:01 PM
I'm in for Atlanta

dinkulpus
05-06-2012, 08:45 AM
I personally want to say sorry to purtov, I don't know what really happened here.

Boarder35m
05-12-2012, 05:26 AM
It turns out Alex might not be able to manage Madrid :awww:
Is there somebody free next week to take over in case Alex doesn't show up? If nobody volunteers until tomorrow I'll manage it.

P.S. It was confirmed that Alex won't be available. OK then I'll do Madrid :help: and see if he can take Rome :sobbing:

I am very sorry but I am still in hospital, so I could not take PAW Rome. (I just saw you opened the thread already anyway :awww:). I had an urgent appendix operation and later some problems with my heart rhythm.

I will help out in June :wavey:

Aenea
05-12-2012, 09:49 AM
I am very sorry but I am still in hospital, so I could not take PAW Rome. (I just saw you opened the thread already anyway :awww:). I had an urgent appendix operation and later some problems with my heart rhythm.

I will help out in June :wavey:

Mainly because of the EL - many people have forgotten to enter Madrid and some had to miss on the tournament. So now I decided to open the thread a day earlier so people could check on the EL and see if they are in or they need to sign up.

Wish you all the best, Alex and I am happy you are OK even though still in the hospital. Get well soon :hug:

kingroger
05-12-2012, 03:35 PM
I'm not longer able to take care of PAW Entries.

I've done it for 4 months now - I already put a huge effort into the forum besides my private life and my time does not allow to take responsibility for PAW Commitments any longer.

I'll make the Entry List of Rome today - that'll be the last one I do

Thanks guys :wavey:

sdtoot
05-12-2012, 08:52 PM
I'm not longer able to take care of PAW Entries.

I've done it for 4 months now - I already put a huge effort into the forum besides my private life and my time does not allow to take responsibility for PAW Commitments any longer.

I'll make the Entry List of Rome today - that'll be the last one I do

Thanks guys :wavey:

I will run the PAW commitments from June onwards but I won't be able to help out with the entry lists for the remaining tournaments this month.

Aenea
05-13-2012, 07:27 AM
kingroger, thank you for your help with the game! :wavey:

I'll post EL for Nice and FO as they are (almost) the same like Rome.

Aenea
05-23-2012, 07:45 AM
I will manage USOpen

Direnan
05-23-2012, 12:41 PM
Just remember, I do Halle.

=D

qczi
05-31-2012, 09:23 AM
i'll take queens and eastbourne

Direnan
05-31-2012, 05:34 PM
Topic of Halle open, because I can forget...

Cava
06-15-2012, 06:55 PM
I will manage s'Hertogenbosch

Direnan
06-15-2012, 10:32 PM
I can be BU in Wimbledom, or manage after Wimbledom.

Kamui010
06-25-2012, 04:43 AM
Hi, I think I won the 's-Hertogenbosch tournament, but the topic hasn't been updated yet. Maybe the manager had some kind of problem and he isn't able to finish it.

I don't know where to say this, so I put it here. Sorry if this isn't the correct place.

Thanks in advance!

jrm
07-03-2012, 01:41 PM
Umag and Stuttgart
Hamburg and Gstaad
Kitzbuhel

i hope i will not regret it :p

Direnan
07-03-2012, 02:39 PM
I can Newport and Washington =D

Cava
07-03-2012, 03:43 PM
Hi, I think I won the 's-Hertogenbosch tournament, but the topic hasn't been updated yet. Maybe the manager had some kind of problem and he isn't able to finish it.

I don't know where to say this, so I put it here. Sorry if this isn't the correct place.

Thanks in advance!

Patience dude. It was updated Monday morning after the tournament. Felt no need to rush the final update since there were zero changes after the finals, as everyone picked the loser. Probably a PM would be more appropriate in the future.

sdtoot
07-07-2012, 09:15 PM
Since there is currently no manager nominated for Bastad and also only 7 players currently committed to play there with only 24 hours to the commitment deadline, it seems sensible to not run PAW Bastad and allow the 7 players to switch to one of the other 3 tournaments next week. :shrug:

jrm
07-07-2012, 11:23 PM
i should swutch to Bastad and run that event :p

jrm
07-07-2012, 11:24 PM
btw, i managed to resolve major, major PC error, i was afraid my computer was done

sdtoot
07-08-2012, 12:02 AM
i should swutch to Bastad and run that event :p

Tina, no need for you to run Bastad, since I have cancelled it on the commitments thread and asked the 7 players to re-commit to one of the other three tournaments next week.

Aenea
07-18-2012, 04:31 PM
I don't see a manager for next week's LA but if there is none and nobody takes it, I'll do it, we are not cancelling anymore tournaments. Sorry, I cannnot see 1st post in commitments thread but if there are more than 12 players the tournament will be held.

Aenea
07-25-2012, 09:41 AM
There will be a PAW tournament for the Olympics? :scratch:
How is that tournament to be managed does anyone know? Is it RR and if yes how is RR handled? How many picks for it?

sdtoot
07-26-2012, 04:53 PM
There will be a PAW tournament for the Olympics? :scratch:
How is that tournament to be managed does anyone know? Is it RR and if yes how is RR handled? How many picks for it?

19 picks as per the last PAW Olympics:-

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=129429

Thanks

purtov45
07-27-2012, 01:31 AM
I'll run PAW Olympics?

purtov45
07-27-2012, 03:27 AM
I'll run PAW Olympics?
Sorry, I did not see, that the thread is already opened

jrm
07-27-2012, 10:40 AM
damn, i saw the draw, i would need 19 picks in WTA :p

Aenea
08-05-2012, 03:50 PM
nobody available for Toronto? :unsure: We are not canceling a masters, are we?

Someone?

Direnan
08-05-2012, 05:24 PM
Sorry, this week is complicated for me =(

jrm
08-05-2012, 06:11 PM
i'll do it then :shrug:

but the thread will come up once track and fields end in London :p

probably after midnight

jrm
08-05-2012, 06:15 PM
but i'm MM whore manager :p i usually don't do biggies

stuey87
08-05-2012, 09:49 PM
I'm not sure I'll be able to help out very often, but I could do Cincy next week if no-one else wants to...

Aenea
08-06-2012, 12:28 AM
hi, stuey87

thank you very much for offering your help. I don't know you and I need to ask as I have not seen you around in the last 2 years - have you managed a PAW before? The practice here is new managers to start with smaller tourneys - 250, if they do well they can move to 500 and so on. So if you are a rookie in management you better choose a small tournament for starter.

stuey87
08-06-2012, 06:15 AM
hi, stuey87

thank you very much for offering your help. I don't know you and I need to ask as I have not seen you around in the last 2 years - have you managed a PAW before? The practice here is new managers to start with smaller tourneys - 250, if they do well they can move to 500 and so on. So if you are a rookie in management you better choose a small tournament for starter.

Hi there,

No worries, I don't blame you for checking.
I have managed a tournament before many years ago, think it was LA one year, so I do know how all the formatting etc works.
I was just offering because it seems like we're a bit short of volunteers at the moment; if there is a more experienced person who would like to do Cincy then I am happy to let them.
Let me know either way and I'll go with whatever you suggest. :) :wavey:

Aenea
08-06-2012, 04:19 PM
stuey :)

Well we do look a bit unorganized here in PAW :p but usually a manager shows up just in time to cover the next tournament :lol:

I took a look at your LA tourney, it has been waaay back, yes. All right, things have definitely changed over the years but if you are familiar with the current rules, can cope with the amount of work a Masters requires and can update the thread daily I'd be happy to welcome you in our little managers' family. But other PAW Board members have to give their opinions as well.

You could take a look at the PAW templates which we are using now, read and learn the current rules and look at Tina's management this week. If you get green light from other PB members - there you go, you can have Cincy.

If not Cincy, what would you say about WS - it also is a 16-picks tournament and has a large EL PAW players.

sdtoot
08-06-2012, 09:29 PM
I can run Cincy next week.

Also, I think it would be better for Stuey to run Winston Salem as his first tournament back into PAW management, if he is OK with this?

stuey87
08-07-2012, 02:20 AM
stuey :)

Well we do look a bit unorganized here in PAW :p but usually a manager shows up just in time to cover the next tournament :lol:

I took a look at your LA tourney, it has been waaay back, yes. All right, things have definitely changed over the years but if you are familiar with the current rules, can cope with the amount of work a Masters requires and can update the thread daily I'd be happy to welcome you in our little managers' family. But other PAW Board members have to give their opinions as well.

You could take a look at the PAW templates which we are using now, read and learn the current rules and look at Tina's management this week. If you get green light from other PB members - there you go, you can have Cincy.

If not Cincy, what would you say about WS - it also is a 16-picks tournament and has a large EL PAW players.

I can run Cincy next week.

Also, I think it would be better for Stuey to run Winston Salem as his first tournament back into PAW management, if he is OK with this?

Hi guys,
I am more than happy to step aside for sdtoot to do Cincy.
As it happens I am not free to do WS that week, and am not looking to get back into PAW management full time - my work commitments will very rarely allow me to do it, except sometimes in July and August (hence why I was offering to lend a hand next week when I saw there was no-one listed on the first page of this thread and when I realised I did have the time).

If in the future you ever are stuck in these months for a manager, rather than cancelling a tourney do drop me a pm just on the off chance. I'd like to be able to occasionally pay back some of the excellent work that you as a group of managers do so regularly yourselves to allow all us PAW players to enjoy the game. :worship:

Sorry if it seemed like I was trying to push in on things. Cheers,

Stuey

sdtoot
08-07-2012, 11:41 AM
OK thanks Stuey.

For everyones information, Marto is not able to update the first page of this thread at the moment, since he only has mobile access to the forum until the end of August. Hopefully he will be back to normal from September.

Aenea
08-11-2012, 09:52 AM
Hi guys,

Sorry if it seemed like I was trying to push in on things. Cheers,

Stuey

:confused:

what makes you say that? We are always looking for managers and the new ones are very welcomed.

as for managing, most post-USO 250 tournaments are "normal" i.e. 13 picks with ~30 players. With Evita's templates managing such a tournament takes about 1 hour per day to update everything and about 30min in the later stages of the tournament as there are fewer matches and fewer picks. So you still can give it a try with such a tournament after USOpen.

I'll serve as a back-up manager for WS - if nobody takes it until MD comes out, I'll do it even though I'm managing USOpen the following week.

Direnan
08-12-2012, 12:47 PM
I can manage after USOPEN.

dinkulpus
08-17-2012, 04:13 PM
First page updated :p

Boarder35m
08-17-2012, 05:46 PM
I can manage St. Petersburg if you want to give me another tournament after I let you down with Madrid because of my operation :awww:

Iīm already managing TT there, so entering both resuts into spreadsheets will not take that much longer. :)

Aenea
08-17-2012, 05:50 PM
I can manage after USOPEN.

thank you, Diego :hug:

I can manage St. Petersburg if you want to give me another tournament after I let you down with Madrid because of my operation :awww:

Iīm already managing TT there, so entering both resuts into spreadsheets will not take that much longer. :)

:speakles:

Alex,

how could you say that? Things like that can happen to anyone of us. Of course you can pick any tournament you want.

:wavey:

Boarder35m
08-17-2012, 06:02 PM
:speakles:

Alex,

how could you say that? Things like that can happen to anyone of us. Of course you can pick any tournament you want.

:wavey:

To be honest I felt a bit that way. :awww:

Not because I didnīt manage - you simply canīt do that from the hospital - but because I told about that so late. I simply didnīt think about MTF at all for days, although I was lying in bed all day and didnīt do anything.

Well maybe itīs rather something that I find strange in the review but understandable when it happened :p

Boarder35m
09-15-2012, 06:07 PM
Is there a manager for PAW Metz? :help:

Direnan
09-15-2012, 06:20 PM
I will take FITD St. Petersburg next week.

=/

GeEnO
09-15-2012, 11:10 PM
No paw for Metz? :(

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Direnan
09-16-2012, 02:38 AM
No paw for Metz? :(

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We need managers.

sdtoot
09-16-2012, 09:28 PM
I will manage Kuala Lumpur next week and a manager is still needed for Bangkok.

Edit - jrm will now run PAW Metz this week.

sdtoot
09-16-2012, 11:37 PM
SEP 17
Metz jrm
St. Petersburg Boarder35m

SEP 24
Kuala Lumpur sdtoot
Bangkok

OCT 1
Beijing
Tokyo Direnan

OCT 8
Shanghai

OCT 15
Stockhom
Moscow
Vienna

OCT 22
Basel
Valencia Direnan

OCT 29
Paris

NOV 5
London

Direnan
09-17-2012, 03:20 AM
I can Tokyo and Valencia.

sdtoot
09-19-2012, 06:03 PM
I suggest that if a PAW tournament doesn't have a manager allocated 24 hours before the commitment deadline for that tournament, then all players should be transferred to an alternative tournament which does have a manager. We do not want a repeat of last week where a tournament was cancelled and then re-instated at the very last minute because someone came forward to manage.

I also feel that the number of active managers in this game is now at an all time low and we should seriously look at running only ONE PAW tournament per week from the start of 2013.

jrm
09-19-2012, 08:11 PM
How about cancelling next week all-together to see players respond?

Yoav
09-19-2012, 08:21 PM
i never did it before, but i'm willing to help and try to run a tournament, if it's possible.

sdtoot
09-19-2012, 08:44 PM
i never did it before, but i'm willing to help and try to run a tournament, if it's possible.

Do you want to try Bangkok next week? I could e-mail you the spreadsheets etc, although they are available for download from post #1 of this thread.

Yoav
09-20-2012, 07:45 AM
Do you want to try Bangkok next week? I could e-mail you the spreadsheets etc, although they are available for download from post #1 of this thread.
i sent u a pm about it.

sdtoot
09-20-2012, 08:56 AM
It is not certain that Yoav can manage at Bangkok next week (he will know by Saturday), but if someone else can manage at Bangkok then please don't hesitate to ask for this tournament. If by 9pm CET Saturday we don't have a manager for Bangkok then this tournament will be cancelled and all players will have to play at Kuala Lumpar next week.

coolfish1103
09-20-2012, 03:45 PM
How about cancelling next week all-together to see players respond?

That doesn't sound too bad, DTT is kind of gone starting from this week too.

appleGirl
09-20-2012, 03:47 PM
I can take Bangkok.

sdtoot
09-20-2012, 05:21 PM
I can take Bangkok.

OK thanks. :worship:

sdtoot
09-20-2012, 05:22 PM
SEP 17
Metz jrm
St. Petersburg Boarder35m

SEP 24
Kuala Lumpur sdtoot
Bangkok appleGirl

OCT 1
Beijing applegirl
Tokyo Direnan

OCT 8
Shanghai

OCT 15
Stockhom
Moscow
Vienna

OCT 22
Basel
Valencia Direnan

OCT 29
Paris

NOV 5
London

Direnan
09-20-2012, 06:10 PM
Sd, after, can you remember me, per PM?

^^

appleGirl
09-20-2012, 06:29 PM
And I can probably do Beijing, too :D

sdtoot
09-21-2012, 12:08 AM
And I can probably do Beijing, too :D

Beijing is yours. Thank you.

Sd, after, can you remember me, per PM?

^^

Sorry you have lost me here? :confused: Did you send me a pm?

Direnan
09-21-2012, 03:24 AM
Beijing is yours. Thank you.



Sorry you have lost me here? :confused: Did you send me a pm?
No, no, I am very forgot, then, if possible, send me a reminder. rsrsr

sdtoot
09-21-2012, 08:59 AM
No, no, I am very forgot, then, if possible, send me a reminder. rsrsr

OK I will try to remember to send you a reminder. :)

jrm
09-21-2012, 10:40 PM
Vienna and Basel

Aenea
09-22-2012, 11:07 AM
I will do Bercy and Shanghai (if no other manager takes Shanghai)

sdtoot
09-22-2012, 11:15 AM
Thanks everyone. Updated tournament list:-

SEP 17
Metz jrm
St. Petersburg Boarder35m

SEP 24
Kuala Lumpur sdtoot
Bangkok appleGirl

OCT 1
Beijing applegirl
Tokyo Direnan

OCT 8
Shanghai Aenea

OCT 15
Stockhom
Moscow
Vienna jrm

OCT 22
Basel jrm
Valencia Direnan

OCT 29
Paris Aenea

NOV 5
London

Aenea
09-22-2012, 10:56 PM
To all managers using Evita's templates:

Guys, please help me improve those very useful templates. When Evita created them SteveG site was done in a very different way and it was easy to just import the entire table into a new Excel sheet :worship: and then just copy the columns you needed. But since 2011 the site was altered and it wasn't that easy using it to enter the names and points into ScoPo sheet. And since this year it is even more complicated with ranking, names and countries put in a single column only. I am using Cygwin to modify the info so that it fits my spreadsheets but I guess not everyone can work with it. It is possible this to be done using Excel functions alone but it is a long way to go so I am thinking of creating a macros for modifying necessary information. Here my question is: how do you enter the information in ScoPo (and I am not asking about entering the draw)? Do you enter the names and points manually? Or are you using some program to modify SteveG?

I have uploaded 2 documents. PAW13 Template beginners is done using Cygwin (very easy) and PAW13 Template v2.2 is done using Excel's own functions (it took me some time and going through a lot of functions) (you can see the differences on Sheet 1).

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?cgaf90nq25q0jkm
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?jsotfxt16deqcc8

I'll appreciate all information you can provide about how you are filling in ScoPo sheet.
Thank you.

Edit: I have done it. If anyone is interested write here or send me PM and I'll upload the new template and explain how to import information easy and fast.

purtov45
09-23-2012, 02:41 PM
Hi Aenea,

I copy a list of ranking from a site atpworldtour.com. But it is possible to use and stevegtennis.com.
For example here so:

B3 "1 Federer, Roger (SUI) "
C3 11805
D3 =FIND(" ";B3)
E3 =FIND(",";B3)
F3 =FIND("(";B3)
G3 =MID(B3;1;D3-1)
H3 =MID(B3;D3+1;E3-D3-1)
I3 =MID(B3;F3+1;3)

Columns B and C I copy from SteveG.
Columns D, E, F auxiliary.
In columns G, H, I - is result (accordingly Ranking, Surname, Country).

purtov :wavey:

purtov45
09-23-2012, 03:24 PM
I all time am late!
Has late read your post #131 :)

I will do Moscou

Yoav
09-23-2012, 04:17 PM
I can do Stockholm

sdtoot
09-23-2012, 06:50 PM
I all time am late!
Has late read your post #131 :)

I will do Moscou

I can do Stockholm

Thanks Guys. I will run London, so we are fully covered for all tournaments to the end of 2012:- :)

SEP 17
Metz jrm
St. Petersburg Boarder35m

SEP 24
Kuala Lumpur sdtoot
Bangkok appleGirl

OCT 1
Beijing applegirl
Tokyo Direnan

OCT 8
Shanghai Aenea

OCT 15
Stockhom Yoav
Moscow purtov45
Vienna jrm

OCT 22
Basel jrm
Valencia Direnan

OCT 29
Paris Aenea

NOV 5
London sdtoot

Aenea
09-23-2012, 07:13 PM
Hi Aenea,

I copy a list of ranking from a site atpworldtour.com. But it is possible to use and stevegtennis.com.
For example here so:

B3 "1 Federer, Roger (SUI) "
C3 11805
D3 =FIND(" ";B3)
E3 =FIND(",";B3)
F3 =FIND("(";B3)
G3 =MID(B3;1;D3-1)
H3 =MID(B3;D3+1;E3-D3-1)
I3 =MID(B3;F3+1;3)

Columns B and C I copy from SteveG.
Columns D, E, F auxiliary.
In columns G, H, I - is result (accordingly Ranking, Surname, Country).

purtov :wavey:

See how I have done it. You understand Excel so we could exchange opinions on how to improve the templates and make it even more easier to use. I have written a very simple step-by-step explanation on how I have changed the template to work with SteveG/ATP. Sorry if it sounds too detailed but it is meant for more users to understand how to do it, even if they are not very good at Excel.

This is the file http://www.mediafire.com/view/?y72i864r09zvcvz

Now the Instruction. Hopefully I explained it well.

1. Copy data from SteveG site (I have used 300 players) and paste it in a Notepad document. Save the file in a easy to find location.
2. When you open Paw13 v2.1 you will see the Sheet1 – it should look like the pic in step1.
3. Your ScoPo sheet should look like the pic in step2.
4. On Sheet1 select A1 cell and click on Data and then choose From Text – step3.
5. A window Import Text File will open. Find the file in which you have saved the info form SteveG/ATP site, mark it and click on Import in the right bottom corner.
6. Text Import Wizard will open – step4. Delimited should be checked. Click on Next. You get to the screen on pic step5. Here Tab should be checked. Click on Next.
7. Here General should be checked and you click on Advanced – pic in step6.
8. A new window will pop up – Advanced Text Import Settings – pic in step7.
9. In the field Decimal separator delete whatever symbol is there (dot, coma, etc) and in the field Thousands separator choose coma from the drop down menu. Click on OK.
10. Then you click on Finish – pic in step8. After that you get to the pic in step9. Click on OK (cell A1 must be selected).
11. And that's all. Data have been imported into Sheet1 (step10) and automatically transferred to ScoPo sheet (step11).

Aenea
09-23-2012, 07:23 PM
This is the last pic step11 as only 10 attachments could be done in 1 post.

Please someone try this and tell me how it goes. Does it work for you, is it user friendly, does it help for entering data etc.
Thank you.

purtov45
09-24-2012, 08:30 AM
The instruction detailed and clear.
Features of filling.
1) The List cannot be displaced downwards - for proper work of function ROW.
Federer should be in the first line.
2) In the end of the text should not be a space - for proper work of function RIGHT.
-Correctly- "1 Federer, Roger (SUI)"
Incorrectly "1 Federer, Roger (SUI) "
(At use of functions FIND and MID such restrictions are not present).

Direnan
09-24-2012, 11:13 AM
Aenea :worship:

Aenea
09-24-2012, 10:17 PM
The instruction detailed and clear.
Features of filling.
1) The List cannot be displaced downwards - for proper work of function ROW.
Federer should be in the first line.
2) In the end of the text should not be a space - for proper work of function RIGHT.
-Correctly- "1 Federer, Roger (SUI)"
Incorrectly "1 Federer, Roger (SUI) "
(At use of functions FIND and MID such restrictions are not present).

Thanks. I'll try your method to optimize the template I have made. When the test template PAW13 is fully ready I'll modify and the templates with 16/19/26 picks and upload them for everyone to use them if they want. You can upload your template(s), too so other managers can use them.

Aenea :worship:

Diego :D

Hopefully the files are working properly and are of some help.

purtov45
09-25-2012, 12:05 AM
Hopefully the files are working properly and are of some help.
:yeah:


Column I =MID(A1;FIND(" ";A1)+1;FIND("(";A1)-FIND(" ";A1)-1)
Column J =MID(A1;FIND("(";A1);5)

appleGirl
09-29-2012, 08:32 PM
:yeah:


Column I =MID(A1;FIND(" ";A1)+1;FIND("(";A1)-FIND(" ";A1)-1)
Column J =MID(A1;FIND("(";A1);5)


I think it should be:

Column I =MID(A1,FIND(" ",A1)+1,FIND("(",A1)-FIND(" ",A1)-1)
Column J =MID(A1,FIND("(",A1),5)

At least, that's how it worked for me.

Aenea
09-29-2012, 10:45 PM
I have tried purtov's formulas and it worked well for me.

Guys, SteveG's admin who is running the ranking for the site has read our posts here and has decided to help us. He has modified the SteveG ranking so you can copy it and paste it directly into a clean Excel sheet and then just copy the columns you need and paste them into ScoPo. This is in case you don't want to use the Import Data function. I have tried it, works perfectly.

Thank you very much, Moder :worship:

Direnan
09-30-2012, 03:05 AM
Fantastic! o/

I will try tomorrow.

Direnan
10-01-2012, 11:57 PM
I ever have this doubt:
A player ask WC, after, the post. After I guarantee.
Those picks are valid?

sdtoot
10-02-2012, 12:01 AM
I ever have this doubt:
A player ask WC, after, the post. After I guarantee.
Those picks are valid?

The picks for any matches played before the actual WC request are not valid. If a player asks for a WC and then immediately posts picks, then they are valid providing that these games have not started.

Direnan
10-02-2012, 12:08 AM
The picks for any matches played before the actual WC request are not valid. If a player asks for a WC and then immediately posts picks, then they are valid providing that these games have not started.
Very thanks.

Moder
10-02-2012, 09:44 PM
stevegtennis should be able to provide rankings in columns each week.
For example: http://www.stevegtennis.com/rankings/2012/s100112.htm (found in the rankings tab)

I've worked out a few ways to make this happen and feel pretty confident that it will display correctly!

Nirjhor
10-25-2012, 04:57 AM
Hey guys.. After spending some time with PAW spreadsheet (PAW Template v2.1) that Aenea posted in #136, I think now I might run a tournament. :) I'll start managing PAW tournaments if you guys are okay with it. :D

Thanks. :)

Aenea
10-26-2012, 09:03 PM
Welcome on board, Nirjhor :)

If you have any questions or need help don't hesitate to ask.

Nirjhor
10-27-2012, 05:37 AM
Thanks. :D

Kockar :D
10-28-2012, 05:10 PM
I want play too. Can i play Paris?

Direnan
10-28-2012, 09:18 PM
I want play too. Can i play Paris?
You need commit in threads of months. For Paris, you commit in thread of October, or ask WC in Paris' thread.

hallso
11-15-2012, 01:20 PM
Hello everyone!

I need to stop making PAW rankings and I'm looking for someone to take over them from me.
I'm waiting for volunteers until March, after Miami ATP1000 I will stop doing them.
So, there is plenty of time to think over and ask questions.

Best regards,
Greg

sdtoot
12-15-2012, 08:25 PM
Will there be anyone able to run the PAW Managers Thread for 2013?

I will run the monthly PAW Commitments threads.

dinkulpus
12-19-2012, 07:44 AM
Sorry I can't because I can't promise good updates during summer like last year :sad:

sdtoot
12-19-2012, 10:28 AM
Sorry I can't because I can't promise good updates during summer like last year :sad:

No worries Martin. Thanks for your help over the past two years.

Direnan
12-20-2012, 01:02 PM
I can manage a tournament, but, dont have time for manage the game =/

Aenea
12-25-2012, 07:47 AM
I can try manage this thread but the game won't survive if nobody wants to get engaged with managing it. Now that Greg won't be able to manage the Ranking and Race threads it is only Shaun and I who are left with managing. I for sure cannot do all by myself.

Merry Christmas! :)