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Haas vs. Kiefer vs. Schuettler

Sapeod
10-23-2011, 03:06 PM
Who out of the top Germans of the 21st century has had the best career? Kiefer has retired, but got some good runs in slams. Haas has the highest ranking and Schuettler is the only one who has reached a slam final. So, who out of these guys has had the best career?

abraxas21
10-23-2011, 04:02 PM
haas and it's not even close

no offense to grandpa' schuettler of course. somehow he's endearing to me

xdrewitdajx
10-23-2011, 04:02 PM
Haas. I always liked Kiefer though

_Chaz
10-23-2011, 04:17 PM
Good thread.

I'd say Haas. And his career would have been even better without all these injuries.

misty1
10-23-2011, 04:19 PM
haas has had the best one

but i liked kiefer the most of the 3

Dougie
10-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Good thread.

I'd say Haas. And his career would have been even better without all these injuries.

So would Kiefer´s. But yeah, Haas has had the best career of these three. Never made a Slam final like Scuettler, but Haas´ several semis more than compensate for it.

habibko
10-23-2011, 04:58 PM
Kiefer had the best game to watch when he was on

rocketassist
10-23-2011, 05:08 PM
Haas and Kiefer were class players to watch.

Schuettler is the weakest by far, but his run to the AO final on paper was very impressive given his draw. If he'd beaten Safin clean and not via retirement it would have been one of the hardest slam runs of the millennium.

Alex999
10-23-2011, 05:37 PM
Haas. Period. Beautiful game, beautiful BH, amazing shot maker, great variety. If he hadn't been such a headcase he would have won multiple GS. He simply wasn't able to control his nerves. It's too bad. I really like him. I can watch his matches 24/7. He was also so unlucky with injuries.

Sapeod
10-23-2011, 05:45 PM
Weirdly enough, all 3 of them have great games to watch.

Schuettler has the slam final and the Wimbledon semi-final.
Kiefer has a few slam semi-finals.
Haas has the same as Kiefer, but a higher ranking.

Kiefer was the best to watch, Haas has had the best career and Schuettler is the longest lasting. Seriously, Schuettler is still fighting in challengers and he's around 36 years old and is showing no signs of stopping. Gotta give him credit for that.

Overall, I'd probably say Haas. I'll add a poll.

jcempire
10-23-2011, 05:49 PM
What are you kidding me ?

Haas is way way way better

Sapeod
10-23-2011, 06:13 PM
What are you kidding me ?

Haas is way way way better
Uh, no.

And no, he's not way way way better :wavey: He's better, but not way way way better :wavey:

Chris Kuerten
10-23-2011, 06:16 PM
I think Schuettler made the most of his abilities between these three, very good and long career considering his relatively limited game. Especially Haas has such an enormous sexy game, but unfortunately this video sums up his career:

8gQ2NhteF44

mooncreek
10-23-2011, 06:50 PM
Schuettler is the only one of the three to make a GS final and that normally would be enough reason to say him. But the fact is he's simply not memorable and the fact he made that final is a stunner. I know he's still toiling on the tour.

However, Haas clearly left his mark on the game. He's the only one I can see (non-German) commentators mentioning years after he's gone. That and he was the highest ranked so I pick him.

Chase Visa
10-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Haas by a fair distance. Scuttler had what, 1 good year? And Kiefer was way too inconsistent, too.

james82
10-23-2011, 09:09 PM
Haas by a fair distance. Scuttler had what, 1 good year? And Kiefer was way too inconsistent, too.

haas and kiefer were both inconsistent
both had potential to be number 1 if not for injuries

Ibracadabra
10-23-2011, 09:23 PM
I think Schuettler made the most of his abilities between these three, very good and long career considering his relatively limited game. Especially Haas has such an enormous sexy game, but unfortunately this video sums up his career:

8gQ2NhteF44

he won that match

asmazif
10-23-2011, 09:37 PM
Easily Haas. Definitely the best to watch for me also :hearts: Kiefer was nice to watch when on, some nice variety and groundstrokes. Not a fan of Schuettler, though he's still out there competing.

Kiefer had just the one slam SF btw, and it came relatively late in his career interestingly (2006).

Also, have always loved that video :D

Henry Chinaski
10-23-2011, 10:09 PM
SLAMS

Finals

RS: 1
TH: 0
NK: 0

Semi-finals:

RS: 2
TH: 4
NK: 1

Quarter-finals:

RS: 2
TH: 7
NK: 5

MASTERS

Titles:

RS: 0
TH: 1
NK: 0

Finals:

RS: 1
TH: 2
NK: 1

Semi-finals:

RS: 4
TH: 7
NK: 4

ATP titles-finals:

RS: 4-8
TH: 12-9
NK: 6-13

Weeks in top 10:

RS: 51
TH: 65
NK: 30

tommy is the answer

(some or all those numbers may be wrong)

leng jai
10-23-2011, 11:25 PM
Bias aside Haas by a fair margin. I'd say he would have the most wins of the three against top 5 players as well.

Sham Kay
10-23-2011, 11:57 PM
Talent and overall success wise, Haas. Then Shuettler just because of the Aussie run and how long he has lasted, though Kiefer was incredible at his best, just wasn't the best under pressure, unlucky with draws and had numerous injuries. Very entertaining though, Kiefer, who I'll miss the most out of the 3 when Haas and Schuttler retire.

Lee
10-24-2011, 12:03 AM
Tommy has the best career, result-wise but Schuettler makes the best out of his talent.

alfonsojose
10-24-2011, 12:44 AM
The one and only Rainer :hearts: Seriously, Haas.

Mountaindewslave
10-24-2011, 01:18 AM
i like Haas the most but I think Schuettler is possibly the most reknown of them all and did make a GS final, aging like wine too.

Chris Kuerten
10-24-2011, 09:59 AM
he won that match
I know, just meant he is quite the headcase.

Beat
10-24-2011, 02:11 PM
Kiefer has a few slam semi-finals.


no, he has just the one (AO '06).

Sapeod
10-24-2011, 03:18 PM
no, he has just the one (AO '06).
I must've been thinking of quarter-finals.