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Steve Jobs has died

Pirata.
10-06-2011, 12:45 AM
Several breaking news twitters just posted it. Here's a statement from Apple's board of directors
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/05/steve-jobs-has-passed-away/

Sunset of Age
10-06-2011, 12:46 AM
Oh man. A true idol from my youth! I so well remember the days when I worked as a post-graduate researcher at the uni back in those days of old, and we were all soooooo happy to see those terrible IBM computers being replaced by Apple II's, and thereafter, the lovely Apple Macintosh... the guy was a true visionary. :sad:

http://www.google.nl/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://dl.maximumpc.com/galleries/25oldpcs/apple_macintosh_01_full.jpg&sa=X&ei=f-2MTvXuD4qe-wbposTqCg&ved=0CAoQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGJRcAbuK0X9SZPQpUH-Ul5trSJCw
Apple Macintosh 1984 - :hearts: :worship: :bowdown: :inlove:

I knew he was already very sick indeed for quite a while and had to resign from the Apple board some time ago due to his illness... RIP, Steve. :sad: :sad: :sad:

Orka_n
10-06-2011, 12:50 AM
What...? Just awful. :sad: Rest in peace, Steve.

Bilbo
10-06-2011, 12:59 AM
Was to be expected :sad: Even though I hate Apple and their politics I've to admit that Steve Jobs probably was the most influencing human of the last 10 years. At least he doesn't has to witness how Samsung is overtaking Apple in the next 2-3 years.

RIP bro

jmjhb
10-06-2011, 01:07 AM
Regardless of whether you liked his products (I like them myself) the guy was a genius and an innovator, he took a company on the brink of bankruptcy and transformed them into the most valuable and profitable tech company in the world.

His impact and legacy on the technology and entertainment world is huge.

RIP.

kinski76
10-06-2011, 01:23 AM
Was to be expected :sad: Even though I hate Apple and their politics I've to admit that Steve Jobs probably was the most influencing human of the last 10 years. At least he doesn't has to witness how Samsung is overtaking Apple in the next 2-3 years.

RIP bro

+1. I have serious issues with Apple's politics, but Steve Jobs was an icon and will go down in history as the true visionary he was. RIP:sad:

Sunset of Age
10-06-2011, 01:25 AM
+1. I have serious issues with Apple's politics, but Steve Jobs was an icon and will go down in history as the true visionary he was. RIP:sad:

Back in the 1980's, Apple was a truly revolutionary company though. I know all to well how they eventually succumbed to the wide-spread nastiness of commercialism, but I prefer to remember those older days. :)
It might be a tad different when being an old geek, such as I am... :eek:

I truly hope the equally legendary Mr. Wozniack will give his condolences too.

Johnny Groove
10-06-2011, 01:30 AM
Another legend bites the dust.

RIP, you brilliant dude.

habibko
10-06-2011, 01:35 AM
what a tragic loss to human kind :sad:

RIP Steve

habibko
10-06-2011, 01:40 AM
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how can you not admire and respect this man?

Topspindoctor
10-06-2011, 02:11 AM
:sad: Love him or hate him, the man was a legend. A true innovator who strived to drive the computer technology above and beyond. Watch some of his presentations in your spare time.

allpro
10-06-2011, 02:26 AM
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r.i.p. jobs.

Filo V.
10-06-2011, 02:38 AM
Hopefully everyone realizes just how impactful he was to our very livelihoods today and in recent history. I hope in his death, that his works while he was living are truly highlighted, remembered and celebrated. Because dude is a legend. He will be very sorely missed.

@Sweet Cleopatra
10-06-2011, 02:52 AM
RIP and God bless you Mr. Jobs.

nobama
10-06-2011, 03:03 AM
Oh man. A true idol from my youth! I so well remember the days when I worked as a post-graduate researcher at the uni back in those days of old, and we were all soooooo happy to see those terrible IBM computers being replaced by Apple II's, and thereafter, the lovely Apple Macintosh... the guy was a true visionary. :sad:

Apple Macintosh 1984 - :hearts: :worship: :bowdown: :inlove:

I knew he was already very sick indeed for quite a while and had to resign from the Apple board some time ago due to his illness... RIP, Steve. :sad: :sad: :sad:

First Apple I owned was this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Apple_iigs.jpg

Then I had a Mac. Once I got an office job it was all Windows all the time. :(

There will never be another Steve Jobs. RIP :(

Macbrother
10-06-2011, 05:49 AM
Somebody made a reference today comparing him to Thomas Edison and I found it apt. The man was, in many ways, a genius, and his affects upon technology will no doubt be lasting. RIP Steve.

Benny_Maths
10-06-2011, 09:35 AM
Never really been a fan of Apple products but Steve Jobs had an undeniable and profound influence on technology, and we're better off for it. RIP Steve Jobs.

JolánGagó
10-06-2011, 11:02 AM
RIP.

RIP Apple too.

Caesar1844
10-06-2011, 02:07 PM
Only 56. :( Must have been powered by an iPhone battery.

Somebody made a reference today comparing him to Thomas Edison and I found it apt.
Several bridges too far. Brilliant innovator and businessman, but not really an amazing inventor. Pretty much all of his products were simply elegant refinements of other people's ideas. His talent was in making his refinements both distinctive and definitive.

Bilbo
10-06-2011, 02:12 PM
iPhone 4S

4S = Fo(u)r Steve

Now it all makes sense why they have chosen this name instead of iPhone 5 and why the iPhone 4S was presented one day before his death.

Har-Tru
10-06-2011, 03:30 PM
Only 56. :( Must have been powered by an iPhone battery.

Very funny. :rolleyes:




RIP Steve from one of your Macbooks. More than an innovator, he was a visionary with a talent for knowing what drives and attracts people.

abraxas21
10-06-2011, 04:06 PM
Somebody made a reference today comparing him to Thomas Edison and I found it apt. The man was, in many ways, a genius, and his affects upon technology will no doubt be lasting. RIP Steve.

2 very different characters, imo.

edison was talented in inventions and science amd jobs was talented in business and marketing.

all in all, i find it odd the way in which in today's society businessmen seem to be a lot more recognized than the inventors, which in many cases are working in groups of large multinational companies. in jobs' case, i understand that not even the first mac wasn't made by him but of course he helped to make it commercial in way that probly the inventors wouldnt have.

nothing against jobs of course, he seemed like a good guy. May he rest in peace.

tangerine_dream
10-06-2011, 05:58 PM
Do a search for "Pirates of Silicon Valley" on YouTube. It was a 1999 TV movie about Jobs, Wozniack, their creation of the first home computers, and their rivalry with Bill Gates. Great movie if you've ever wondered about the history of Apple and Steve Jobs.

Our household has always been Maccentric, we've never owned an IBM computer. Having to work with ancient IBM DOS at work and school was a nightmare. :crazy: We still have several old Mac gadgets around the house, including first generation iPods, iMacs, etc. I distinctly remember the very first iPod commercial we saw on TV, the dorky guy's dancing and awkward head-bopping always cracked us up. Still does:

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I remember the city being plastered with all those "think different" posters back in the 90s. This one was my favorite:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060206005536/muppet/images/8/8a/Poster.thinkdifferent.jpeg (http://muppet.wikia.com/index.php?title=Apple_Computer&image=Poster-thinkdifferent-jpeg)

Anyway RIP Steve, and thanks for the cool toys.

yesh222
10-06-2011, 06:53 PM
RIP
He really changed the world.

Pirata.
10-06-2011, 07:03 PM
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Macbrother
10-06-2011, 08:53 PM
Only 56. :( Must have been powered by an iPhone battery.


Several bridges too far. Brilliant innovator and businessman, but not really an amazing inventor. Pretty much all of his products were simply elegant refinements of other people's ideas. His talent was in making his refinements both distinctive and definitive.

2 very different characters, imo.

edison was talented in inventions and science amd jobs was talented in business and marketing.

all in all, i find it odd the way in which in today's society businessmen seem to be a lot more recognized than the inventors, which in many cases are working in groups of large multinational companies. in jobs' case, i understand that not even the first mac wasn't made by him but of course he helped to make it commercial in way that probly the inventors wouldnt have.

nothing against jobs of course, he seemed like a good guy. May he rest in peace.
Steve Jobs was not exactly a slouch in the inventions department:
Jobs is listed as either primary inventor or co-inventor in 338 US patents or patent applications related to a range of technologies from actual computer and portable devices to user interfaces (including touch-based), speakers, keyboards, power adapters, staircases, clasps, sleeves, lanyards and packages.

Furthermore it's not like Thomas Edison didn't improve and refine the works of others, either. In any case, my goal wasn't to debate the relative ingenuity/resourcefulness of the two men -- but rather to highlight the profound effect Steve Jobs had (the revolutionary notion of the personal computer, probably his biggest of all) and his prolific, innovative nature.

habibko
10-06-2011, 10:19 PM
Now it all makes sense why they have chosen this name instead of iPhone 5 and why the iPhone 4S was presented one day before his death.

and how do you think it was possible for them to know in which day he will die exactly several weeks beforehand?

Dini
10-06-2011, 10:47 PM
:sad:

He epitomised the "never give up" attitude and in so doing, coupled with his genius "complex but simple" ideas, he's left behind him a legacy that goes beyond what most CEOs have ever managed. His greatly vast influence over Apple, the-jeans-and-black-shirt presentations and the "One more thing..." will be greatly missed.

Rest in peace, Steve.

peribsen
10-06-2011, 11:02 PM
I think we all need to see this video. All our lives are different, and we are not all cut out for genius, but some truths are meaningful for us all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA&feature=player_embedded#!

(If you prefer the transcription of the speech:http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/06/steve-jobs-pancreas-cancer )

Caesar1844
10-06-2011, 11:22 PM
Steve Jobs was not exactly a slouch in the inventions department:
A patent is not necessarily a proper invention. Most of Apple's were really just tweaks on someone else's big idea. Also, he had a reputation for hogging credit for his employee's designs - he liked having his name attached to anything Apple created. A lot of those patent credits are 'co-designer' listings with the head of the actual project team who did the work.

nothing against jobs of course, he seemed like a good guy.
Not really. He was a notorious arsehole, who regularly topped "Worst Bosses In America" lists. He played cruel practical jokes on his employees, screwed over his childhood friend Wozniak, and the startup capital for Apple came from an illegal phone hacking scam.

Brilliant businessman though.

Bilbo
10-06-2011, 11:39 PM
and how do you think it was possible for them to know in which day he will die exactly several weeks beforehand?

I don't think they knew the exact day he would die. I think that Apple's initial plan was to release the iPhone 5 with more features than the iPhone 4S. Maybe as a release in early 2012.
However, knowing that Steve Jobs would die soon, they were running out of time. So they had to switch their plans and came up with the iPhone 4S ("4 Steve"), an upgraded version of the iPhone4. That's my story of it. Makes total sense to me.

If you ask me Steve Jobs died in the exact same year when Apple reached its peak. I already said 2 years ago when the first Galaxy S was released that Apple's time of dominance is running out. The new iPhone 4S has only closed the gap to the Galaxy S2 (I'm not even comparing it to the new Galaxy S2 LTE). Apple's still selling more smartphones but only due to their history of the last 4 years. However, numbers are showing that Apple could lose their number one position in 2 or 3 years if they don't come up with something special. Two more of those iPhone 4S models and they will fall back to normality.

habibko
10-07-2011, 12:07 AM
came up with the iPhone 4S ("4 Steve")

I'm pretty sure S stands for "Siri", which is the special thing about the iPhone 4S, it would be incredibly crass of Apple to pimp their product by using emotional attachment of Steve Job's death to make their device sound more special

Bilbo
10-07-2011, 12:12 AM
I'm pretty sure S stands for "Siri", which is the special thing about the iPhone 4S, it would be incredibly crass of a company to pimp their product by using emotional attachment of Steve Job's death to make their device sound more special

It's nothing special, at least not for Android users. They want you to believe it's something special and new. Apple's now running behind with their ideas.

Macbrother
10-07-2011, 12:29 AM
A patent is not necessarily a proper invention. Most of Apple's were really just tweaks on someone else's big idea. Also, he had a reputation for hogging credit for his employee's designs - he liked having his name attached to anything Apple created. A lot of those patent credits are 'co-designer' listings with the head of the actual project team who did the work.

I'm sorry were you inside the design team for all of Apple's products to verify the veracity of this claim? Can you do the same with Edison's work? 350 patents speak for itself. :shrug: The notion that he was simply a great business-man/marketing genius is a gross oversimplification of his impact, imo.

Caesar1844
10-07-2011, 12:46 AM
Have you looked at the patents list? Read any of the interviews and books on the company that talk about Jobs' role in the company? Seems to me you've pretty much hit up Google and discovered "zomg wiki says he's a great inventor!!!!!11111one".

Even if you gave him absolute credit for everything Apple ever developed, you still basically have a guy whose major achievement was taking other people's inventions and making them so consumer-friendly that they became the definitive version.

Don't get me wrong - that's a remarkable achievement. It's hard to name a company in recent history with such a knack for eliminating the 'pain points' with technology (which, as John Cleese once noted, is usually designed by engineers to impress other engineers, accompanied by manuals that can only be understood by an engineer). Few people were as good as him at consumerising electronics.

Nonetheless, comparing him to someone like Edison (who made many seminal discoveries) is frankly insulting to the greater man's legacy.

Macbrother
10-07-2011, 01:30 AM
Have you looked at the patents list? Read any of the interviews and books on the company that talk about Jobs' role in the company? Seems to me you've pretty much hit up Google and discovered "zomg wiki says he's a great inventor!!!!!11111one".

Even if you gave him absolute credit for everything Apple ever developed, you still basically have a guy whose major achievement was taking other people's inventions and making them so consumer-friendly that they became the definitive version.

Don't get me wrong - that's a remarkable achievement. It's hard to name a company in recent history with such a knack for eliminating the 'pain points' with technology (which, as John Cleese once noted, is usually designed by engineers to impress other engineers, accompanied by manuals that can only be understood by an engineer). Few people were as good as him at consumerising electronics.

Nonetheless, comparing him to someone like Edison (who made many seminal discoveries) is frankly insulting to the greater man's legacy.
You've made your stances, and opinions on Steve Jobs quite clear. Not sure of why you have a desire to pick apart his legacy with innuendo and backhanded compliments. I don't think anyone here is claiming he was a saint -- rather simply remembering the best parts of him, which is generally what we do for those who've passed, no? Despite the 1.4 million Google searches comparing the two men (I guess they're all idiots), I will grant you he may be no Edison -- but that is due entirely profound greatness of Edison and not any lacking on Jobs' part.

Caesar1844
10-07-2011, 01:42 AM
Oh jeeze, don't be so sensitive. I think he was a great man. I just think some of the deification we've seen in the last 24 hours is a little absurd.

IMO the guy achieved enough to be worthy of praise and accolades without having to be misrepresented.

Snowwy
10-07-2011, 01:48 AM
Several bridges too far. Brilliant innovator and businessman, but not really an amazing inventor. Pretty much all of his products were simply elegant refinements of other people's ideas. His talent was in making his refinements both distinctive and definitive.

Sounds kinda like this guy that some people have heard of..Isaac Newton. :angel:

Caesar1844
10-07-2011, 02:05 AM
Theoretical physics and the development of consumer electronics are not really comparable fields.

Snowwy
10-07-2011, 02:21 AM
Theoretical physics and the development of consumer electronics are not really comparable fields.

So if you are a theoretical physists who has many people working for you and you take their ideas and the competitions ideas, yet present them better, its okay. But if you do the same thing as an electronics expert, its a bad thing, even when he shares credit with Apple, he doesn't just put his own name on it like Newton did?

Caesar1844
10-07-2011, 02:53 AM
Where did you get that from?

All I said is that it's misleading to portray Jobs as a great inventor. I haven't seen Newton being described as a great inventor. Have you?

Snowwy
10-07-2011, 12:34 PM
Where did you get that from?

All I said is that it's misleading to portray Jobs as a great inventor. I haven't seen Newton being described as a great inventor. Have you?

Newton is often described as a great inventor (source. Steven Hawkins), he invented calculus, which is a little bit important to say every object that is built. He wrote his three laws and also the discovered the universal gravitational constant for starters.

Why does this apply? Because people say the same thing about him that you did about Steve Jobs, that he took other peoples ideas and redefined them slightly, getting the credit.

I just want to point out that that doesn't make Steve Jobs any less of an innovator, without his work, the world of technology would be behind, same as without Newton, so although their ideas may not be as revolutionary as say Copernicus, to say these guys aren't great inventors is selling them way short.