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Antimatter Trapped For 16 Minutes: The Future Of Fuel?

Chair Umpire
06-07-2011, 06:46 PM
Antimatter Trapped For 16 Minutes: The Future Of Fuel?
by Mitch Marconi

Could antimatter hold the key to the creation of the universe? Scientists say they have been able to trap and store antimatter for 16 minutes. They hope that as they get better at trapping antimatter, they can educate the masses on the origins of all things.

Antimatter and matter are thought to have existed in equal quantities at the beginning of the natural universe 14 billion years ago. According to Wikipedia, "In particle physics, antimatter is the extension of the concept of the antiparticle to matter, where antimatter is composed of antiparticles in the same way that normal matter is composed of particles. For example, a positron (the antiparticle of the electron or e+) and an antiproton (p) can form an antihydrogen atom in the same way that an electron and a proton form a normal matter hydrogen atom. Furthermore, mixing matter and antimatter can lead to the annihilation of both in the same way that mixing antiparticles and particles does, thus giving rise to high-energy photons (gamma rays) or other particle-antiparticle pairs." reported, "Until now, matter - an electron with a negative charge that orbits a nucleus with a positive proton - and antimatter, made up of antihydrogen atoms called positrons, have destroyed, or "annihilated", each other in a small flash of energy when they collide."

Scientists hope that one day they can turn antimatter into a new clean fuel source for vehicles and power plants. Antimatter also has the potential to help unlock new cancer treatments and create high-power nuclear fusion weapons. Scary stuff to say the least. (c) tPC

06-07-2011, 06:51 PM
This is pretty highbrow for MTF non-tennis...

06-07-2011, 08:26 PM
I don't see how you can use it as an energy source. Antimatter doesn't just magically "exist", you have to make it. To make it, costs energy. Now, antimatter could hold the key to massive amounts of energy storage, but then it's not much more than a new type of battery.

No on the energy source. Yes on the energy storage.

Edit: Sorry. Cancer? Wut? WHAT? Ugh...

06-07-2011, 08:36 PM
If energy was just that easy to produce, we would have stopped using oil/coal years ago, I work for a petrochemical company and I can tell you that we've been looking for alternate sources for quite a long time (we're running out of oil after all) and so far nothing can replace them in that scale.

06-08-2011, 12:21 AM
Scientists hope that one day they can turn antimatter into a new clean fuel source for vehicles

:spit: :haha: Yes, in 2050 we'll all drive around in anti-matter fueled cars. :rolleyes: That's a totally realistic, not to mention safe, fuel for personal transportation. :o

Chair Umpire
06-08-2011, 11:30 AM
Sorry but I don't think that people who is still using llamas as personal transport can make predictions about the future of transport methods for humans. Let's back to the issue, a more complete info:

Cern, Alpha and antimatter storage: why antimatter should matter to us

The news that scientists can capture and store antimatter could have a profound effect on our understanding of the universe, says Tom Chivers.

By Tom Chivers

9:22AM BST 07 Jun 2011

Sixteen minutes is not a particularly long time. It's enough time for a cup of tea, or to run two miles, if you're in good shape. But if you have a few atoms of antimatter, it may be enough time to learn about the birth of the universe.

On Sunday, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (Cern) generated excited headlines worldwide when it was announced that they had created and stored antimatter – the elusive "mirror image" of everything we see around us – in a stable state for the first time. They have managed to keep atoms of antihydrogen – the antimatter equivalent of hydrogen, the simplest element – trapped for 1,000 seconds, or 16 minutes and 40 seconds. Their previous record stood at just 172 milliseconds, or rather less than a fifth of a second. It's an exciting breakthrough, but one that may have been hard to grasp for those of us without a physics degree.

To understand it, we first need to know what matter and antimatter really are. The universe is made of subatomic particles – electrons, protons and neutrons being the best known. In 1928, the English physicist Paul Dirac, a pioneer of quantum mechanics, created a detailed mathematical model of the subatomic world – but he realised that, for his equations to work, he required a particle with the same mass as an electron, but with the opposite, "positive" charge. In 1932, an American, Carl Anderson, observed such a particle, which became known as a positron. Later, it became clear to physicists that every particle of matter had an associated antiparticle. In 1955, researchers at the University of California at Berkeley identified an antineutron and antiproton.

But studying this antimatter was not easy. When an antiparticle of any kind meets its matter counterpart, the pair annihilate each other in a small but fierce burst of energy. An atom of antihydrogen, consisting of a positron and an antiproton, would instantly vanish upon contact with any matter. The only way to store antimatter, then, is to keep it in a magnetic field.

Until very recently, that meant that only subatomic antiparticles could be stored and studied because only charged antiparticles, antiprotons and positrons, can be manipulated by a magnetic field. Whole atoms do not have an electric charge and so magnets were of limited use.
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Last December, however, the Antihydrogen Laser Physics Apparatus (Alpha) team at Cern managed a world first: to make and trap whole atoms of antihydrogen using magnetic fields. At very low temperatures, anti-atoms will behave like minuscule magnets. Only when they are close to absolute zero are anti-atoms sluggish enough to be guided, even with powerful superconducting magnets. It was a remarkable technical feat, but a short-lived one: the team only held the antihydrogen for a few microseconds, before turning off the fields and allowing the anti-atoms to annihilate with matter. They then observed the resulting bursts with their detectors.

Amazing as this was, there is only so much we can learn about antimatter from such experiments. We want to watch its existence, not just document its destruction. As Tom Whyntie, a physicist at Cern, said: "It's the difference between observing an animal's tracks or droppings, and studying it in captivity." And it is the latest breakthrough that may make such observation possible. Professor Jeffrey Hangst, a spokesman for the Alpha team, explained: "1,000 seconds is long enough to begin to study [antihydrogen atoms] – even with the small number that we can catch so far."

We need to look back to the start of the universe, 13.7 billion years ago, to explain why this is important. In the moments after the Big Bang, the universe – according to our understanding – consisted of equal parts matter and antimatter. If that is the case, we should expect that the two would annihilate each other, but they did not. Almost all the antimatter in the universe is long gone, but somehow, we were left with enough matter to create a working universe.

That would make sense if there were some difference between antimatter and matter which meant that antimatter disappeared more readily. But it is a fundamental feature of modern physics, stretching back to Dirac's equations, that antimatter and matter are symmetrical. "Any hint of symmetry-breaking would require a serious rethink of our understanding of nature," says Prof Hangst. "But half of the universe has gone missing, so some kind of rethink is on the agenda." Indeed, the very fact of our existence is one of the greatest mysteries facing modern physics.

A key goal of antimatter physics, then, is to find out what the asymmetry – or difference between matter and antimatter – is. There are two obvious starting points: first, does antihydrogen react to light in the same way as ordinary hydrogen; and second, does it interact with gravity in the usual fashion. Later this year, experiments will begin to determine both.

The first involves spectroscopy and is similar to the methods used to determine the chemical make-up of distant stars. By bombarding an atom with lasers or microwaves, scientists can see what frequencies the atom absorbs, and so learn more about its nature. "If you hit the trapped antihydrogen atoms with the right microwave frequency, they will escape the trap, and we can detect the annihilation – even for just a single atom," explains Prof Hangst. "This would provide the first ever look inside the structure of antihydrogen – element number one on the anti-periodic table." The second experiment, known as Aegis (Antimatter Experiment: Gravity, Interferometry, Spectroscopy), will determine whether antimatter falls to Earth in the same way as matter.

Will scientists find any evidence of asymmetry? It's not clear, just as it's not clear what it will mean if they do or don't. Prof Hangst says: "If we find no difference, that just means that in this system, to this degree of accuracy, we can't find a difference. You get that a lot in this kind of physics. But finding a difference would be really interesting. There is no model for what it would mean, and nothing, a priori, to suggest what we might find. It's not obvious that it would point you towards what happened in the first moments of the universe. But it would mean that we haven't understood everything."

For now, though, simply being able to produce and capture the exotic anti-stuff is achievement enough. It may lead to profound breakthroughs at the very edge of physics. Or it may not. But there is only one way to find out – as Prof Hangst says: "My philosophy is, if you get hold of some antimatter, you should take the chance to look long and hard at it."
Catching atoms

British physicist Paul Dirac, winner of the Nobel Prize for physics in 1933, first predicted the existence of an antimatter particle. (Photo: REX)

• What is antimatter?

The universe is made up of subatomic particles, most famously the electron, proton and neutron. Every kind of particle has an associated antiparticle with the opposite electrical charge – electron and positron; proton and antiproton etc.

• Who discovered it?

The English physicist Paul Dirac, one of the fathers of quantum mechanics, realised in 1928 that for his equations to work, an antiparticle must exist. In 1932, the American Carl Anderson confirmed Dirac's prediction.

• Where did it come from?

At the birth of the universe, matter and antimatter were created in equal amounts. One of the great unsolved mysteries of modern physics is why antimatter was almost entirely destroyed.

06-09-2011, 01:14 PM
Anti-matter as of now is extremely risky stuff to work with, the energy potential is huge, granted, but I would wager that the next step from nuclear fission energy, is fusion/strong force energy. I mean, haven't they made a laser hot enough to fuse two Hydrogen atoms? I swear there was a thread here in NT.

Going back to the topic, I swear that antimatter has been trapped before for a long(ish) period of time as well, by putting it inside a container that had repulsing magnetic ends, thus suspending the AM in the container (Penning Trap, I believe it was called).

Anyways, exciting stuff

06-10-2011, 01:07 AM
Even a lama-jockey could tell you this will never be used in cars, you :silly: Does anti-matter really seem like a remotely economical, practical and safe fuel for cars to you? :tape:

06-10-2011, 01:09 AM
LENR is the next big thing. The dogmatists were wrong.

Book it! :yeah:

06-10-2011, 06:57 AM
Scientific fact time: Produced anti-matter (the only kind we know) CANNOT be used as an energy source. It CAN only be used as energy storage. Period. The only people that profess this fallacy are inept journalists. It's important that people know what science is capable of, and which it is not - unless you want to let the world be disgruntled by the false promises made by non-scientists. That tidbit on cancer...

I work with quantum symmetry on a daily basis, so I am - at this moment - 100% certain that symmetric properties remain.

Chair Umpire
06-10-2011, 10:40 AM
I mean, haven't they made a laser hot enough to fuse two Hydrogen atoms? I swear there was a thread here in NT.

Do you remember the title of thread?