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WWW RG SF: Nadal vs. Murray

GSMnadal
06-01-2011, 04:55 PM
Nadal will kill him off in 3.

Tom Paulman
06-01-2011, 04:55 PM
Hopefully it will be similar to this:

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3590/nadalmurray.jpg

CescAndyKimi
06-01-2011, 04:55 PM
Murray has maximised his draw IMO. Nadal in 3.

As much as it pains me to say.

Topspindoctor
06-01-2011, 04:56 PM
Too bad Mugray has an excuse already prepared. Anyway, Nadal to send this talentless mug back to Scotland in straights. Clay clown's cakewalk draw ends here.

SheepleBuster
06-01-2011, 04:56 PM
I do hope that Nadal comes to his senses and tanks this match. He is playing a very dangerous game and Lord Djokovic does not take kindly to those who mock his powers.

MalwareDie
06-01-2011, 04:57 PM
Murray is injured. His only hope to make it a competitive 3 setter is to blindly ballbash his way through the whole match.

delboy
06-01-2011, 04:57 PM
Too bad Mugray has an excuse already prepared. Anyway, Nadal to send this talentless mug back to Scotland in straights. Clay clown's cakewalk draw ends here.

talentless?:o

Clydey
06-01-2011, 04:58 PM
Murray might sneak a set. Still has too many lapses at important moments.

Rafa in 4.

martyn
06-01-2011, 04:58 PM
Rafa in straights unfortunately.

A Fit Murray would take it to 4, and still lose.

SheepleBuster
06-01-2011, 04:59 PM
Murray is injured. His only hope to make it a competitive 3 setter is to blindly ballbash his way through the whole match.

He will have 2 more days to rest. At the very least, I hope he pushes Rafa to a long 7 hour match. That way Rafa will have an excuse for losing the final. Right now he does not have any

castle007
06-01-2011, 04:59 PM
There is no doubt that Nadal will win this one. I watched some parts of the first set of the Murray/Chela match and both players looked exhausted. (Not sure if Murray looked better in the remaining sets, TC didn't show the match).

delboy
06-01-2011, 04:59 PM
Murray is injured. His only hope to make it a competitive 3 setter is to blindly ballbash his way through the whole match.

which is what he will have to do anyway..minus the blindly

straitup
06-01-2011, 04:59 PM
Rafa in 4...Andy will be more aggressive certainly, because he's playing Nadal and because he has the injury still. But he can pull off a set I think

MaxPower
06-01-2011, 04:59 PM
Nadal will win in 3/4. I'd like Murray to take a set to soften him up more for the finals

emotion
06-01-2011, 05:00 PM
Nadal has been bad. But Murray has been worse and got a really lucky draw. Nadal in 3 :sad:

MIMIC
06-01-2011, 05:00 PM
Nadal in 4 more than likely.

Can't see Murray beating Nadal HERE at the French.

Lopez
06-01-2011, 05:00 PM
Murray will give Rafa a tougher match than many expect IMO but probably not enough to get the job done.

Rafa in 4 tight sets I think.

born_on_clay
06-01-2011, 05:01 PM
Rafa in 3
Time to get the trash out :yeah:

yesh222
06-01-2011, 05:02 PM
It all depends on the ankle. I really think this could be close if Murray's healed by Friday.

Angled Backhand
06-01-2011, 05:02 PM
Rafa gets to play against a good defender. At the right time I should say, he has just upped his game. Gets to prepare enough to face Djokovic's defence-offence combination.

Rafa in 3 or in 4 if he has a Federerlike mental lapse and Murray capitalizes on it.

n3gative
06-01-2011, 05:02 PM
Chela had 800 bp chances vs Murray, that's not going to cut it here

Clydey
06-01-2011, 05:03 PM
Nadal has been bad. But Murray has been worse and got a really lucky draw. Nadal in 3 :sad:

Murray's form isn't bad. It's patchy. Maybe playing Nadal will force him to focus.

Sonja1989
06-01-2011, 05:03 PM
Nadal played good enough for Murray, he wins in three, at most four sets.

vn01
06-01-2011, 05:04 PM
rafa in 4.

Lopez
06-01-2011, 05:06 PM
Murray's form isn't bad. It's patchy. Maybe playing Nadal will force him to focus.

Nadal usually does it to Murray. Let's hope for a competitive match!

helvet empire
06-01-2011, 05:08 PM
Chela had 800 bp chances vs Murray, that's not going to cut it here

chela has better attack than nadal though

GSMnadal
06-01-2011, 05:08 PM
Soderling couldn't hit through Nadal even when his monster forehands weren't missing the doubles court, how the hell is Murray going to do it?

Murray's only hope is that Nadal hits every forehand in the net or long. I see a lot of breaks coming in this match.

Luinir
06-01-2011, 05:09 PM
chela has better attack than nadal though

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/dodgerslugger/YouMad.jpg

Priam
06-01-2011, 05:10 PM
Can't underestimate the grinder Murray here. First RG semi and nothing to lose.

Nadal in 3 with one of the sets being tight.

FerrerAndNadal
06-01-2011, 05:10 PM
Probably similar to today I'd say. Nadal probably 6-3 6-2 first two sets then maybe a 7-5, 6-4 set in the 3rd. Nadal would win anyway, but Murray being injured doesn't help his cause.

Gotta love people ITT already counting Fed out. :/

Okram04
06-01-2011, 05:13 PM
This could be very long match. I wouldn't be surprised with any result except Murray in 3.
Murray, Nadal, Fed and Djokovic are way above the rest of the field right now and semi-finals are not surprising at all.

abraxas21
06-01-2011, 05:19 PM
murray is a much better player than soderling and he's got a chance here but i think ultimately pocahontas will prevail

nadull in 3 or 4 tight sets

Commander Data
06-01-2011, 05:20 PM
It is hard to see a scenario where Murray wins this.

Nadal in 3.

This will leave the Spaniard in the final where he never lost. Although Nadal seems mentally burned out, he will be sharp and motivated once he steps on court in the final.

I expect him to take his 6th title on Sunday.

Wimbledon will be another story...

SheepleBuster
06-01-2011, 05:21 PM
murray is a much better player than soderling and he's got a chance here but i think ultimately pocahontas will prevail

nadull in 3 or 4 tight sets

I think Murray has a chance if his ankle heals up and he plays the match of his life. He is more than good enough to get a set. If someone gets lucky and gets 2 then watch out.

careergrandslam
06-01-2011, 05:27 PM
murray has a huge chance to win this.

murray in 4 sets

Start da Game
06-01-2011, 05:28 PM
it will be done in 3 sets again, bet your house on it......

steveo2810
06-01-2011, 05:28 PM
Hopefully Murray can cause the upset but I cant see it. Nadal in 4.

tennizen
06-01-2011, 05:31 PM
Nadal in 4.

shiaben
06-01-2011, 05:31 PM
If Murray's ankle has recovered and he's going to go for the shots, he can push it to 4. Honestly I think it will go to 4 sets only because guys like Soderling have 0 footwork, Murray on the other hand has defense, MIGHT be able to snatch a set thanks to that, like he almost did at AO. Nadal in 4 sets.

careergrandslam
06-01-2011, 05:32 PM
it will be done in 3 sets again, bet your house on it......

so u dont think rafa can take even a set off murray?

shiaben
06-01-2011, 05:33 PM
murray has a huge chance to win this.

murray in 4 sets

Are you saying this because you really mean it, or are you being pessimistic about Nadal in each and every match? Cut the guy some freaking slack.

syc23
06-01-2011, 05:34 PM
Wasn't so long ago people thought it was impossible for Murray to reach the RG SF. Strange things can happen, no?

Certinfy
06-01-2011, 05:35 PM
I'm still not convinced with Nadal's form, he seems to always somehow up his game when he plays Soderling and Berdych however most of the time he generally doesn't keep that level up, I do think Murray will have some chances.

Sham Kay
06-01-2011, 05:35 PM
it will be done in 3 sets again, bet your house on it......
May I have your basement if Murray takes a set?

Sham Kay
06-01-2011, 05:37 PM
Glory: Murray in 4

Realism: Rafa in 4 (most likely a breadstick in one of those.. wa-haha)

henke007
06-01-2011, 05:39 PM
Murray has a chance if its hot and fast and no wind and his 1st serve works..

NJ88
06-01-2011, 05:39 PM
This could be very long match. I wouldn't be surprised with any result except Murray in 3.
Murray, Nadal, Fed and Djokovic are way above the rest of the field right now and semi-finals are not surprising at all.

It's true, top four are MILES ahead of of the rest of the field. Them being in the semi-final is not surprising at all, I would have probabaly predicted very similar at the start of the tournament.

I think the match will be closer than a lot think. Nadal isn't playing his best. Murray is in his first ever French Open semi-final and has had the best clay court season he's ever had, he always brings his A Game vs. Nadal, he has nothing to lose. If he plays his best and keeps his focus, he's got a shot at winning. I don't expect him to though, and if I had to, I would go for Nadal in four.

star
06-01-2011, 05:41 PM
Straights for Murray.

Angled Backhand
06-01-2011, 05:46 PM
Straights for Murray.
Seriously?:confused: I know Andy raises his game against Rafa but come on :o

Alex999
06-01-2011, 05:46 PM
I voted Murray in 4, lol. Do I think he will really win? Not really, but it's just a stupid poll. Murray could challenge Nadal if he can serve well. However I don't think he will but I hope I'm wrong. It would be so much fun to have Muza and Nole in the final :-). MTF would :explode::explode::explode::explode::explode: and we'll live in peace and harmony the rest of our lives. Cheers.

Zagor
06-01-2011, 05:48 PM
Nadal in straights,the only one who has any shot against Nadal playing at this level is gluten free Novak.

rocketassist
06-01-2011, 05:49 PM
Nadal probably, in fact almost certainly, but if the impossible happens then the twats (they know who they are) can get fucked out of here.

ZaZoo)
06-01-2011, 05:55 PM
Murray is injured so Rafito in 3 I guess.. :(

Corey Feldman
06-01-2011, 05:56 PM
Panic Merchant aka Rafael "if i dont win a set 6-1, i'm playing bery bery bad, no" Nadal in 2 sets followed by Murray retirement in third

Gladiator
06-01-2011, 05:57 PM
Nadal in tight 3 sets

Murray might win one set if he is healthy and lucky

finishingmove
06-01-2011, 05:57 PM
they will both try to tank in order to avoid djokovic

expect a slow match

_Chaz
06-01-2011, 05:58 PM
Murray has a chance if its hot and fast and no wind and his 1st serve works..

http://www.wetter.de/wettervorhersage/33-22960-19/wetter-paris.html
Wind will be the same according to this, about 20 kph.

And btw Nadal will win in three here.

GSMnadal
06-01-2011, 05:58 PM
"He (Murray) is one of the best players in the world, and I know I will have to be at my best to beat him," said Nadal.

Same old, same old. No you don't Rafa, 80% is more than enough.

mystic ice cube
06-01-2011, 05:58 PM
Heart says Murray, head says Nadal. I think Murray has a glimmer of hope, and I don't want to count him out completely, although Nadal is on his best surface. Spaniard in 4.

peribsen
06-01-2011, 06:01 PM
Nadal probably, because he is a better player both on clay and overall, but I wouldn't discard the Scot too hurridly, he can play on clay and is good enough to upset anyone out there.

Corey Feldman
06-01-2011, 06:05 PM
"He (Murray) is one of the best players in the world, and I know I will have to be at my best to beat him," said Nadal.



Nadal probably, because he is a better player both on clay and overall, but I wouldn't discard the Scot too hurridly, he can play on clay and is good enough to upset anyone out there.

:lol:

barahmasa
06-01-2011, 06:05 PM
It is hard to see a scenario where Murray wins this.

Nadal in 3.

This will leave the Spaniard in the final where he never lost. Although Nadal seems mentally burned out, he will be sharp and motivated once he steps on court in the final.

I expect him to take his 6th title on Sunday.

Wimbledon will be another story...

Hahaha, weren't you saying there's no way Nadal's gonna win the RG, that he's gonna get trashed... Now you're changeing the record to it's gonna be different in Wimbledon, what's it gonna be after Wimbledon? :rolleyes:

Roadmap
06-01-2011, 06:07 PM
Murray will play with more physocolgical freedom than in their Wimbledon meeting last year and NADULL maybe less. Of course this is a different surface but NADULL doesn't hit a lot of winners and Murray won't provide the plethora of unforced errors that Soderling did. I say 55 per cent NADULL/ 45 per cent Murray. The Scot really has to win the first set.

ImmzB
06-01-2011, 06:11 PM
Nadal in 3.

barahmasa
06-01-2011, 06:14 PM
Of course, Nadal in 3. Let's just hope we'll see more than 3 sets in the final.

ballbasher101
06-01-2011, 06:20 PM
Would love a Murray victory but I can't see it happening sadly. Hope Federer or the Djoker have enough in the tank to stop Nadal come sunday.

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 06:24 PM
Murray has ZERO chance.

Start da Game
06-01-2011, 06:26 PM
nadal destroys murray 6-4, 6-3, 6-4......book it right now, do it......

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-01-2011, 06:27 PM
Rafa is winning in 3 vamossssssssss

Johnny Groove
06-01-2011, 06:27 PM
Murray might get a set, but expect Rafa to be playing on Sunday.

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 06:30 PM
now you are catching on jonathan.

healthy clay warrior cannot be defeated in battle in a best of 5 sets match on clay.

it may take him a while from time to time but he finds a way.

peribsen
06-01-2011, 06:30 PM
:lol:

What's so funny about my post, or do you only like people who call rivals mugs and cheats and can't recognize merit where it is due?

Start da Game
06-01-2011, 06:34 PM
Murray has ZERO chance.

concurred......bagging the honour of going down to the clay god in the ultimate clay arena itself is a huge accomplishment......fed, djokovic have already had those badges of honour......murray is somewhat lucky to have it but maybe he earned it......

SheepleBuster
06-01-2011, 06:47 PM
Nadal probably, because he is a better player both on clay and overall, but I wouldn't discard the Scot too hurridly, he can play on clay and is good enough to upset anyone out there.

Nope. Murray is a better player than Rafa on hard courts. There is no doubt about that son.

SheepleBuster
06-01-2011, 06:49 PM
People, people, people. Stop the BS. Must you people waste your time talking about things that really don't matter? Who gives a rat's arse who wins here. I mean the title is already in the bag for Nole. Better luck next year guys.

NadalPhan
06-01-2011, 06:54 PM
murray has a huge chance to win this.

murray in 4 sets

You've picked against Rafa the whole tournament. Are you really a fan of his?

hipolymer
06-01-2011, 06:54 PM
Too bad Mugray has an excuse already prepared. Anyway, Nadal to send this talentless mug back to Scotland in straights. Clay clown's cakewalk draw ends here.

It still is a cakewalk draw. Murray would much rather play out of form Nadull than inform Federer or in form Novak.

TheRafaelNadal
06-01-2011, 06:55 PM
The only chance Murray has of beating Nadal in a Grand Slam is on Hard courts where Nadal struggles against him. Clay is different, Murray despite reaching Semi's is actually an above average Clay court player. His 1st service is abysmal and tbh he relies too much on his drop shots. Not to mention he's not fully fit.

Jimnik
06-01-2011, 06:58 PM
Only one winner but the scoreline will depend on Nadal's form. He improved dramatically from the Ljubicic to the Soderling match.

If Andy's ankle is an issue, could be some bakery products dished.

Sapeod
06-01-2011, 06:58 PM
Too bad Mugray has an excuse already prepared. Anyway, Nadal to send this talentless mug back to Scotland in straights. Clay clown's cakewalk draw ends here.
Talentless? Dude, Muzza has more talent in his left nipple than Nadal has in his whole body.
Rafa in 3
Time to get the trash out :yeah:
Says the guy who used to like him :haha: What made you change your mind? When he started losing a little more often? Gloryhunter alert!!



Muzza has a very small chance. Those who are saying he has 0% chance are deluded. Isner took Nadal to 5 sets and only lost because his fitness isn't up there with Nadal's. Murray's fitness is on the same level as Nadal's, as is his movement. He can attack and usually does against Nadal. That means, he has attack, great movement, speed, fitness and defense, coupled with great touch, determination, great fighting ability and ability to really make Nadal struggle. None of Nadal's opponents so far have had all of this.

peribsen
06-01-2011, 06:59 PM
Nope. Murray is a better player than Rafa on hard courts. There is no doubt about that son.

HC is not synonymous with 'overall'. Even if it was, 2 slam wins against 3 slam finals should tell you something, shouldn't it?

TennisOnWood
06-01-2011, 06:59 PM
Go home Andy.. you can be happy with this 1/2

Ben.
06-01-2011, 07:00 PM
Rafa stepped it up for Soderling and he should do it again for Murray but he is going to have to show a more attack minded game than he has done thus far. I expect a long 4 four setter, even 5 is quite possible. I guess Rafa should try to avoid getting a double break up as it seems that is the kiss of death against Murray this week.

Sapeod
06-01-2011, 07:03 PM
The only chance Murray has of beating Nadal in a Grand Slam is on Hard courts where Nadal struggles against him. Clay is different, Murray despite reaching Semi's is actually an above average Clay court player. His 1st service is abysmal and tbh he relies too much on his drop shots. Not to mention he's not fully fit.
A few things wrong with this post, though you are right with the hardcourt/clay bit.

1. He does not rely purely on dropshots. He's very good at the back of the court.
2. He is one of the fittest players. An injury doesn't count as him being unfit. He's like Ferrer, he could run around all day retrieving and he's probably outlast everyone 99% of the time.
3. He is a good claycourter. An above average claycourter doesn't almost beat Djokovic and take a set away from Nadal 6-2 when both are playing really well.

Sapeod
06-01-2011, 07:04 PM
HC is not synonymous with 'overall'. Even if it was, 2 slam wins against 3 slam finals should tell you something, shouldn't it?
Muzza's reached 1 more final than Nadal :shrug:

TennisLurker
06-01-2011, 07:04 PM
Nadal should be able to beat Murray losing less than 10 games

bright
06-01-2011, 07:05 PM
:lol:

This thread's purpose cannot be for real.

MsTree
06-01-2011, 07:10 PM
Either of them in five sets. Picked Andy to win but either of them as long as it's high quality :D

Elbarto
06-01-2011, 07:13 PM
Murray in 4 sets

barahmasa
06-01-2011, 07:14 PM
People, people, people. Stop the BS. Must you people waste your time talking about things that really don't matter? Who gives a rat's arse who wins here. I mean the title is already in the bag for Nole. Better luck next year guys.

I need a big favor from rafa tards: please put comments like this one in your sig after the final, please please please :bounce:

TheRafaelNadal
06-01-2011, 07:19 PM
A few things wrong with this post, though you are right with the hardcourt/clay bit.

1. He does not rely purely on dropshots. He's very good at the back of the court.
2. He is one of the fittest players. An injury doesn't count as him being unfit. He's like Ferrer, he could run around all day retrieving and he's probably outlast everyone 99% of the time.
3. He is a good claycourter. An above average claycourter doesn't almost beat Djokovic and take a set away from Nadal 6-2 when both are playing really well.

There's no doubt Murray has Talent, but his 1st serve and consistency is terrible. He won't trouble Nadal at all come this Friday. A fit murray on Hard court would trouble NAdal, on this surface it's going to be a comfortable win. Murray could take a set if Nadal takes his eye off the ball but the way Nadal plays he will go for broke early and keep a steady ship. That's how he destroys opponents and has done for the last 6 years on this surface.

Eden
06-01-2011, 07:20 PM
It is hard to see a scenario where Murray wins this.

Nadal in 3.

This will leave the Spaniard in the final where he never lost. Although Nadal seems mentally burned out, he will be sharp and motivated once he steps on court in the final.

I expect him to take his 6th title on Sunday.

Wimbledon will be another story...

Why will Wimbledon be another story? If Rafa wins the French Open, especially in a final against Djokovic, his selfconfidence will be sky high again.

And who is going to beat Rafa on grass in a best of 5 match? The last loss he suffered there was 2007...

But let's not get that far ahead ;)

Would have prefered a meeting between Nadal and Murray in the SF of the USO last year but well, you can't have everything :p

Good run for Murray in the clay season so far. Who would have expected this after the surprising losses earlier on this year on HC?

The first set might get close but Rafa will run away with the match then.

exeget
06-01-2011, 07:40 PM
Rafa in 5 sets

Everko
06-01-2011, 07:43 PM
Murray will beat Nadal when the sun turns green and sprouts beanstalks

ssin
06-01-2011, 07:44 PM
anything else than Rafa in straight sets would surprise me.

syc23
06-01-2011, 07:49 PM
Well Isner did manage to win 2 sets against Claygod so Thick Legs might be in with a chance.

sexybeast
06-01-2011, 07:54 PM
It will be windy, in fact alot more windy than today! If anyone remembers Nadal's match against Murray in a very windy day in Indian Wells 2 years ago you should know things are not looking very good for Murray. Nadal is the greatest wind player by far, but thank god the final wont be very windy (just rain).

Jaz
06-01-2011, 08:07 PM
Nadal in 4

Voo de Mar
06-01-2011, 08:10 PM
Nadal in 3, maybe one 7-5/6 set.

tennishero
06-01-2011, 08:19 PM
nadal in 3

guga2120
06-01-2011, 09:25 PM
Rafa in 5. Should be a close match, Andy will have a chance, especially if Rafa can not maintain his level, which he has been struggling to do. Hopefully the winner wins the tournament.

Puschkin
06-01-2011, 09:27 PM
Rafa, and it won't be even close.

Sophocles
06-01-2011, 09:29 PM
On Murray's racquet, as ever. If it's windy he has no chance. If he's hampered by his ankle, he has no chance. Otherwise, & if he plays his A game, he's got a decent shot.

sexybeast
06-01-2011, 09:34 PM
On Murray's racquet, as ever. If it's windy he has no chance. If he's hampered by his ankle, he has no chance. Otherwise, & if he plays his A game, he's got a decent shot.

It is going to be windy, so he simply got no chanse.

rocketassist
06-01-2011, 09:45 PM
Wind favours defensive players always.

DrJules
06-01-2011, 09:48 PM
Talentless? Dude, Muzza has more talent in his left nipple than Nadal has in his whole body.

Says the guy who used to like him :haha: What made you change your mind? When he started losing a little more often? Gloryhunter alert!!



Muzza has a very small chance. Those who are saying he has 0% chance are deluded. Isner took Nadal to 5 sets and only lost because his fitness isn't up there with Nadal's. Murray's fitness is on the same level as Nadal's, as is his movement. He can attack and usually does against Nadal. That means, he has attack, great movement, speed, fitness and defense, coupled with great touch, determination, great fighting ability and ability to really make Nadal struggle. None of Nadal's opponents so far have had all of this.

The mind boggles what expression you would use if this was WTA.:lol::lol::lol:

Roadmap
06-01-2011, 09:50 PM
Talentless? Dude, Muzza has more talent in his left nipple than Nadal has in his whole body.

Says the guy who used to like him :haha: What made you change your mind? When he started losing a little more often? Gloryhunter alert!!



Muzza has a very small chance. Those who are saying he has 0% chance are deluded. Isner took Nadal to 5 sets and only lost because his fitness isn't up there with Nadal's. Murray's fitness is on the same level as Nadal's, as is his movement. He can attack and usually does against Nadal. That means, he has attack, great movement, speed, fitness and defense, coupled with great touch, determination, great fighting ability and ability to really make Nadal struggle. None of Nadal's opponents so far have had all of this.

What makes you think murray's fitness is as good as NADULL'S ? . I personally don't believe your compatriots fitness is anywhere near NADULL'S.

Commander Data
06-01-2011, 10:52 PM
Hahaha, weren't you saying there's no way Nadal's gonna win the RG, that he's gonna get trashed... Now you're changeing the record to it's gonna be different in Wimbledon, what's it gonna be after Wimbledon? :rolleyes:

He was close to out vs Isner.
But I was surprised to see how Nadal raised his level as the tournament goes on. This changes me assessment of his chances. I think he will beat Murray pretty clearly.

Wimbledon will be different because Nole and Murray will be no title contenders. nadal is not as good as earlier years therefore I think Fed has realstic chances to win.

Why will Wimbledon be another story? If Rafa wins the French Open, especially in a final against Djokovic, his selfconfidence will be sky high again.

And who is going to beat Rafa on grass in a best of 5 match? The last loss he suffered there was 2007...

But let's not get that far ahead ;)

Would have prefered a meeting between Nadal and Murray in the SF of the USO last year but well, you can't have everything :p

Good run for Murray in the clay season so far. Who would have expected this after the surprising losses earlier on this year on HC?

The first set might get close but Rafa will run away with the match then.


I think Nadal may not reach the Wimbledon final. although he rose his level here, overall he is more and more mentally tired. Fed seems fresher to me and Murray and Nole will be beatable for Fed on grass therefore I see Fed as fav to win Wimbledon while here I don't see him with a real chance.

:shrug:

jcempire
06-01-2011, 10:58 PM
Andy in 5

4-6 6-4 5-7 6-3 6-0

ossie
06-01-2011, 11:05 PM
dont think rafa will lose a set here, he will want to look sharp for the final after all.

fast_clay
06-01-2011, 11:19 PM
nadal is in deep shit

The Tradesman is gonna take to nadal's scrotum with a cattle prod, a pair of long nose pliers and some chocolate coated peanuts (for half time smoko) in what will be a slow, four hour procedure...

feel the pain nadal...

your knees...

listen to them mate...

they dont want this...

Dyraise
06-01-2011, 11:39 PM
Rafa in less than two hours

tests
06-01-2011, 11:45 PM
rafa in 3 sets, with one being SLIGHTLY contested.

I fully expect murray to curse at himself and physicall abuse himself (he always hits himself when he makes mistakes) while rafa picks his ass and yells out VAMOS!

Rafa in 3 sets, 6-4 6-3 7-5

MrChopin
06-01-2011, 11:45 PM
Rafa in less than two hours

Rafa couldn't beat his d--- in less than two hours.

Sunset of Age
06-01-2011, 11:50 PM
That ankle injury of Muzza's, has it suddenly miraculously disappeared, or what? :confused:
Couldn't tell from his match against Chela, as I obviously haven't watched it.

Rafa in three, perhaps four.

MaxPower
06-01-2011, 11:58 PM
I desperately want Murray to win. Mostly because yet another 0-3 Final would be hilarious for the statistics around it but also because Nadal shouldn't even get a chance at winning the Final.

Sadly I see a match where they both play tight and defensive and there is one guy that made 9 slams out of that. Unlike Troicki/Chela Nadal will never go to the net, make reckless attacks and alike.

I think the Nadal strategy will be something like

kickserve
moonball
moonball
moonball
moonball
skyball DTL
moonball
moonball
banana shot DTL
moonball
slice
moonball
Murray U.E
*Take 30 sec to rest after all running*

Repeat for 6-3, 6-4, 6-2 win

stewietennis
06-02-2011, 12:00 AM
The win is all that matters

Vanjezi
06-02-2011, 12:03 AM
Murray gonna lose buuuxaxaxax :lol: happy happy joy joy :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:

Sophocles
06-02-2011, 12:11 AM
nadal is in deep shit

The Tradesman is gonna take to nadal's scrotum with a cattle prod, a pair of long nose pliers and some chocolate coated peanuts (for half time smoko) in what will be a slow, four hour procedure...

feel the pain nadal...

your knees...

listen to them mate...

they dont want this...

Part of me thinks this. Part of me remembers those hideous Wimbledon semis. Then another part of me remembers how shit Nadal is now.

Nole Rules
06-02-2011, 12:16 AM
Andy if he is not going to win this, he will tire the moonballer out.

Clay Death
06-02-2011, 12:45 AM
murray has ZERO chance.

he will push the clay warrior but that is just what nadal needs. he needs a tough test for the final.

Topspindoctor
06-02-2011, 12:50 AM
murray has ZERO chance.

he will push the clay warrior but that is just what nadal needs. he needs a tough test for the final.

I disagreed with you before, but now I see that you were right all along. I thought Nadal would struggle against Soderling. Now my confidence is restored. Nadal will send this haggis lover back to Scotland. I am sure of it.

tests
06-02-2011, 12:55 AM
murray has ZERO chance.

he will push the clay warrior but that is just what nadal needs. he needs a tough test for the final.

i agree. Murray has ZERO chance against nadal on the SF in RG. He can take nadal out in aus or uso... and MAYBE wimbledon (huge maybe).. but no chance at clay imho.

Nadal and djokervic for the final (fingers crossed)

tests
06-02-2011, 12:56 AM
I desperately want Murray to win. Mostly because yet another 0-3 Final would be hilarious for the statistics around it but also because Nadal shouldn't even get a chance at winning the Final.

Sadly I see a match where they both play tight and defensive and there is one guy that made 9 slams out of that. Unlike Troicki/Chela Nadal will never go to the net, make reckless attacks and alike.

I think the Nadal strategy will be something like

kickserve
moonball
moonball
moonball
moonball
skyball DTL
moonball
moonball
banana shot DTL
moonball
slice
moonball
Murray U.E
*Take 30 sec to rest after all running*

Repeat for 6-3, 6-4, 6-2 win
LMAO

Mungo
06-02-2011, 12:56 AM
Hopefully it will be similar to this:

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3590/nadalmurray.jpg

Nadal is not injured this time, already beat Murray on their last indoor hardcourt match. Nadal should own Murray this time as usual. He's a bad matchup for Murray.

tests
06-02-2011, 12:57 AM
Andy if he is not going to win this, he will tire the moonballer out.

It does not matter how tired nadal is. Once he is in the finals of a grand slam, he turns into a fucking animal.

tests
06-02-2011, 12:57 AM
Nadal is not injured this time, already beat Murray on their last indoor hardcourt match. Nadal should own Murray this time as usual. He's a bad matchup for Murray.

are you serious?

fast_clay
06-02-2011, 01:03 AM
Hopefully it will be similar to this:

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3590/nadalmurray.jpg

i was at that match... what a great day it was too... the tennis angels sung in choir as murray destroyed nadal...

also rafa stinks... doesnt wash under his arms i think...

Clay Death
06-02-2011, 01:08 AM
I disagreed with you before, but now I see that you were right all along. I thought Nadal would struggle against Soderling. Now my confidence is restored. Nadal will send this haggis lover back to Scotland. I am sure of it.


i am still not happy with him general topspin doc:

1. way too much running around his backhand

2. he should have tried his hand at some volleying today

3. he could have taken some more risk. it was just soderling on the other side of the net

**murray match is completely different. he is too consistent and he moves too well so nadal will have to be more aggressive than he was today and he will have to end a few points at the net.

still murray has no chance.

Mungo
06-02-2011, 01:14 AM
are you serious?

Nadal is a bad matchup for Murray. 10-4. Now if you think that the man with a 4-10 record is a bad matchup for the other guy and not vice versa you're an ignorant clown :wavey:

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 01:18 AM
Rafa does wash under his arms. He rubs and rubs and rubs some more, but there just isn't anything strong enough yet. We live in hope that technology comes to his rescue sooner rather than later.

What was this thread again? OH right. The ZERO chance thread.

Roadmap
06-02-2011, 01:25 AM
NADULL won't be able to handle Murray's forehand. Time is up for MOONBALLER. Murray wins although NADULL might win a few games.

Fedfanforever
06-02-2011, 01:29 AM
Murray won't win a set. Nadal is not playing well at all, but neither is Murray.

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 01:41 AM
NADULL won't be able to handle Murray's forehand. Time is up for MOONBALLER. Murray wins although NADULL might win a few games.
Negative, you think this Mugdal can win a few games? The shameless moonballer will be lucky to win a couple games over Godrray.. :wavey: Only a flight to Mexico or whatever awaits this bull-pig. And of course his favourite undies. :o

:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:


(Seriously though, it's cringeworthy how you lot are able to talk like that ALL THE TIME. Fack sakes you lot are a retarded bunch... A few more waveys anyone?)

Roadmap
06-02-2011, 01:47 AM
Negative, you think this Mugdal can win a few games? The shameless moonballer will be lucky to win a couple games over Godrray.. :wavey: Only a flight to Mexico or whatever awaits this bull-pig. And of course his favourite undies. :o

:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:


(Seriously though, it's cringeworthy how you lot are able to talk like that ALL THE TIME. Fack sakes you lot are a retarded bunch... A few more waveys anyone?)

Murray suffers from laspses of concentration during matches. During these moments MUGDAL might be able to sneak a game or two but for the rest of the match he will just have to be content watching Murrays forehands flying past him.:)

cajuntennis
06-02-2011, 01:56 AM
Murray wins his first grand slam

delboy
06-02-2011, 02:05 AM
I think this is gonna be much closer than what everyone thinks, could be a great match.

Clay Death
06-02-2011, 02:07 AM
agreed. it will be a tight and a tough contest.

murray has learned to play on clay and he has more than enough firepower.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
06-02-2011, 02:15 AM
murray cant play for shit in a final but he's generally awesome against nadal at the QF SF stage

murray may be the biggest threat to nadal

for all the djokovic fan wankery, at the end of the day- he cant pull the trigger on the big occasion against nadal

it pains me to say this but federer is no threat to nadal anymore

Roadmap
06-02-2011, 02:18 AM
murray cant play for shit in a final but he's generally awesome against nadal at the QF SF stage

murray may be the biggest threat to nadal

for all the djokovic fan wankery, at the end of the day- he cant pull the trigger on the big occasion against nadal

it pains me to say this but federer is no threat to nadal anymore

The tennis genius Federer will be rememebered long after NADULL.

NadalPhan
06-02-2011, 02:18 AM
See, the funny thing is Murray has a much better chance at beating Nadal than Soderling ever did, and yet, an overwhelming amount of people picked Sod against Nadal compared to Murray vs Nadal.

Getta
06-02-2011, 02:22 AM
vamos Rafa

go Andy goooooooooooo

Hensafmurrafter
06-02-2011, 02:48 AM
See, the funny thing is Murray has a much better chance at beating Nadal than Soderling ever did, and yet, an overwhelming amount of people picked Sod against Nadal compared to Murray vs Nadal.

That is because they still live in 2010.

This is going to be a really tight match. I don't buy that Murray's ankle will be much of a liability, and Andy will be much more focused than he is against non-Nadals. I expect to see him take it to five, but for Rafa to pull it out in the end.

Nadal 8-6 in the fifth.

SheepleBuster
06-02-2011, 03:13 AM
I need a big favor from rafa tards: please put comments like this one in your sig after the final, please please please :bounce:

You just hate it cause I am right

LinkMage
06-02-2011, 03:23 AM
Nadull in straights. :zzz:

He will win this tournament after all the BS about his level.

FedererXPress
06-02-2011, 04:08 AM
Nadal in 4 sets here. Murray's draw was so easy it's almost disgusting. I'm not saying it's his fault, but still...

FedererXPress
06-02-2011, 04:12 AM
Rafa does wash under his arms. He rubs and rubs and rubs some more, but there just isn't anything strong enough yet. We live in hope that technology comes to his rescue sooner rather than later.

What was this thread again? OH right. The ZERO chance thread.

Maybe, just maybe...the greatest post ever :worship:

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-02-2011, 04:17 AM
4 set dog fight here. I think Murray makes it extremely tough in first 2 sets before running out of steam complied with nadal slowly getting into his groove as the match wears on. Nadal gets harder to beat as the match wears on esp on this surface. he will have confidence after the soderling match, so Murray cant expect to be putting away short balls most of the time...it's his job to make Nadal feel uneasy and lose his confidence before the Djok showdown. Murrays job is too be a pest, perhaps an obstacle before the match of the century on Monday. Murray likes playing Nadal so he will be in his element here, he will be able to mix things up, change angles and annoy Nadal. but when it comes to the crunch Nadal has more firepower and wants this more. This is Nadals slam and no way he loses it to Murray. Nadal did not fly to paris to lose to freaking Andy Murray. He will be tight but Nadal is just the better player. he has the mentality required to win this match and advance to the final.

6-4 3-6 6-4 6-1. R.Nadal

Infinity
06-02-2011, 04:22 AM
Nadal in 3.

Lurking
06-02-2011, 04:57 AM
See, the funny thing is Murray has a much better chance at beating Nadal than Soderling ever did, and yet, an overwhelming amount of people picked Sod against Nadal compared to Murray vs Nadal.

Typical MTF :o

If Djokovic has a real chance against Nadal then Murray will make this interesting.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
06-02-2011, 05:10 AM
because roger was stubborn and didn't think he needed to adapt untill it was too late

technique wise roger was good enough (hamburg 07)

roger refused to play against type

he needed to keep the points short and pressure the nadal bh dtl more (nadal's weakest shot)

roger also suffered because his BH dtl- the shot soderling and joker kill nadal with- isnt good enough

jeremda01
06-02-2011, 05:12 AM
nadal in 3 sets, murrays ankle can't have fully recovered and nadal just played his best match of the tourny giving him plenty of confidence. wanna see a rafole final please!

careergrandslam
06-02-2011, 05:44 AM
because roger was stubborn and didn't think he needed to adapt untill it was too late

technique wise roger was good enough (hamburg 07)

roger refused to play against type

he needed to keep the points short and pressure the nadal bh dtl more (nadal's weakest shot)

roger also suffered because his BH dtl- the shot soderling and joker kill nadal with- isnt good enough

:haha:

u dont know shit about tennis do u.

careergrandslam
06-02-2011, 05:59 AM
nadal has been playing like a mug this entire clay court season.

just horrible.

Allez
06-02-2011, 06:07 AM
Nadal is not messing about. He'll take Murray out in 4.

careergrandslam
06-02-2011, 06:13 AM
if nadal loses to mugray, i will hate nadal forever.

mugray in a RG final is just beyond disgusting.

the vulgar british media will brag about it forever.
anything is fine as long as u dont lose to a brit.

its not that i hate brits, i just hate the repulsive british media, they rub it in and try to humiliate players that british players win against.
that annoys the mess out of me.

gaitare
06-02-2011, 06:18 AM
XLlpFyk46es

07:14-07:18

Yes, it's directed at you, Rafa. Muzza takes it.

Rafa is the GOAT
06-02-2011, 06:27 AM
NadAl in 3 for sure. -d he keeps on improving he a verry good chance of winning RG. Rafa in 6-4 6-3 6-1

BULLZ1LLA
06-02-2011, 08:10 AM
(I know they are both on the same day but, which SEMI-FINAL is played first?)

Rafa is the GOAT
06-02-2011, 08:54 AM
Last year the 2nd seed SF played 2nd so I think the same will happen
Friday 3 june (Rafa's birthday)
Court Philippe Chatrier.
14:00 (GT1+)
Rafael Nadal(ESP)[1] vs Andy Murray(GRB)[4]
Novak Djokovic(SRB)[2] vs Roger Federer(SUI)[3]

BULLZ1LLA
06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
Last year the 2nd seed SF played 2nd so I think the same will happen
Friday 3 june (Rafa's birthday)
Court Philippe Chatrier.
14:00 (GT1+)
Rafael Nadal(ESP)[1] vs Andy Murray(GRB)[4]
Novak Djokovic(SRB)[2] vs Roger Federer(SUI)[3]

(I like the sound of that. It's fun already being in the final and watching your budding opponent be born :-----)

Commander Data
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
vamos Rafa

go Andy goooooooooooo

Hopp Schwiiiiiiizzzz!!!!!

coonster14
06-02-2011, 10:51 AM
Rafa in 3. Won't be surprised if Murray wins a set though.

Hoping for a good competitive match, and that Murray's injury won't be too much of an issue.

saniapower
06-02-2011, 10:52 AM
Rafa

BULLZ1LLA
06-02-2011, 01:52 PM
(BBC is reporting that Rafa/Murray play first)

Clay Death
06-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Nadal is not messing about. He'll take Murray out in 4.


agreed.

he did say that he was very "focused" for the entire match against soderling.


we should expect even greater intensity and focus from him now for his next 2 matches here.

he has to deal with 2 of the toughest adversaries out there so this will be quite an achievement if he can pull this off.

Hola Mr. SK
06-02-2011, 02:26 PM
yeah,focus matters for Rafa. He konws what to do and he will win the whole thing.

BULLZ1LLA
06-02-2011, 02:30 PM
agreed.

he did say that he was very "focused" for the entire match against soderling.


we should expect even greater intensity and focus from him now for his next 2 matches here.

he has to deal with 2 of the toughest adversaries out there so this will be quite an achievement if he can pull this off.

(Yeah but he's won 6 consecutive sets vs Murray at Wimbledon. Different surface I know, but I think Murray is a lot more threatening in hardcourt slams. We'll see, but it could be quite one-sided. And in the final, could be looking at a straight sets win over Federer or a 4 set win over Djokovic. I know the idea of him beating Djokovic seems foreign to some of you but this is a slam final, not a 3-setter)

Clay Death
06-02-2011, 02:42 PM
affirmative.

there is absolutely no stopping the clay warrior in the final.

he will fight like never before. he is nothing if not a fighter of the highest order. having been there 5 times on such a big stage already will furnish him with the confidence he will need for the final.

Clay Death
06-02-2011, 02:43 PM
nole is going to get his slams. that is fo sho.

clay warrior just has to go after the slams on natural surfaces with all his might and all his fight.

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 02:48 PM
This might well be the greatest curse job by Rafa fans in the history of Tennis cursing. And that's saying something.

NikolaBGD
06-02-2011, 03:00 PM
nole is going to get his slams. that is fo sho.

clay warrior just has to go after the slams on natural surfaces with all his might and all his fight.

CD, you start to disrespect Novak, I know that you are hard Nadal fan, but don't write off Djokovic in the final, nobody knows what will happen there, but I expect high quality final.

First thing first, SF matches...

Clay Death
06-02-2011, 03:07 PM
CD, you start to disrespect Novak, I know that you are hard Nadal fan, but don't write off Djokovic in the final, nobody knows what will happen there, but I expect high quality final.

First thing first, SF matches...


its true that nole has pissed me off but where do you see the "disrespect" in that post nikola.

in fact i said that "nole is going to get his slams". that is actually showing respect.

and that nadal just has to go after the slams on natural surfaces with all his might.

some people are showing disrespect for nadal and fed but i am not disrespecting anybody here.

NikolaBGD
06-02-2011, 03:17 PM
its true that nole has pissed me off but where do you see the "disrespect" in that post nikola.

in fact i said that "nole is going to get his slams". that is actually showing respect.

and that nadal just has to go after the slams on natural surfaces with all his might.

some people are showing disrespect for nadal and fed but i am not disrespecting anybody here.

Sorry, I quoated a wrong post, but I noticed in last few days that you want Novak to lose, first against D-pot, tommorow against Fed...

Although I understand that, best for the game will be Rafa-Nole final, Nadal fans will have a chance to settle the score, to wipe out all previous loses... be or not to be, hoping that Fed will beat Novak is running from the problem;)

GrosjeantheGreat
06-02-2011, 03:21 PM
Wondering if someone can help me; I went to the French Open website to look at who Murray has beaten so far but I keep getting redirected to this image????

http://andyskitchen.co.uk/blogs//media/blogs/links/all%20things%20cake.jpg

freeandlonely
06-02-2011, 03:49 PM
Two evils, must be enjoyable.
Nadal in 4.

eclecticist
06-02-2011, 04:26 PM
Wondering if someone can help me; I went to the French Open website to look at who Murray has beaten so far but I keep getting redirected to this image????

http://andyskitchen.co.uk/blogs//media/blogs/links/all%20things%20cake.jpg

are you sure you weren't searching for nadal's run instead?

peribsen
06-02-2011, 04:30 PM
Wondering if someone can help me; I went to the French Open website to look at who Murray has beaten so far but I keep getting redirected to this image????

http://andyskitchen.co.uk/blogs//media/blogs/links/all%20things%20cake.jpg

Internet conspiracy? :rolleyes:

chenx15
06-02-2011, 04:33 PM
affirmative.

there is absolutely no stopping the clay warrior in the final.

he will fight like never before. he is nothing if not a fighter of the highest order. having been there 5 times on such a big stage already will furnish him with the confidence he will need for the final.

the problem in the final is not about his heart. If novak gets to the final it's just the match up doesn't look too good for rafa. if Fed will face rafa and this coming from the ultimate fedtard there is then rafa only needs 50% effort because he can just moon ball the back hand and win it all

BULLZ1LLA
06-02-2011, 05:56 PM
nole is going to get his slams. that is fo sho.

clay warrior just has to go after the slams on natural surfaces with all his might and all his fight.

(I agree, I personally care a lot more about RG and WIM than the other slams, no doubt about it)

Start da Game
06-02-2011, 07:09 PM
murray goes in to this match to receive his badge of honour... hercules, bullzilla and co......the honour of going down to the ultimate clay artist in the ultimate clay arena......

nothing more than that.......he knows he is not entering the court to win this match......fed has 4 badges already and djokovic 3......murray shall collect his first tomorrow......

Vida
06-02-2011, 08:00 PM
rafa in straights.

Start da Game
06-02-2011, 08:09 PM
rafa in straights.

it could go four sets, vida.......the match will be so one sided that the organizers might arrange a pity set for the disappointed fans.......

Vida
06-02-2011, 08:10 PM
it could go four sets, vida.......the match will be so one sided that the organizers might arrange a pity set for the disappointed fans.......

maybe but I doubt it. nadal will want to send a message.

MaxPower
06-02-2011, 08:11 PM
This might well be the greatest curse job by Rafa fans in the history of Tennis cursing. And that's saying something.

QFT. But I think Rafito wins anyway...in this match

finishingmove
06-02-2011, 08:19 PM
thick legs could win it all

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 08:21 PM
Andy has the thickest legs, the thickest smile and the thickest head. The guy can't lose.

LawrenceOfTennis
06-02-2011, 08:22 PM
Murray has always been a tough opponent for Rafa, I think this won't be decided in 3 if Murray's focused,but no way Rafa's losing it.

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 08:35 PM
maybe but I doubt it. nadal will want to send a message.
Gotta love how you replied as if Start Da Game said anything worth considering with a sane, undisturbed mind. Unless of course I've stumbled into the dimension where people stop and listen to the rambles of brain-dead freaks.

Start da Game
06-02-2011, 08:36 PM
maybe but I doubt it. nadal will want to send a message.

that pity set(exhibition set) will be after the match, vida......

Start da Game
06-02-2011, 08:38 PM
Gotta love how you replied as if Start Da Game said anything worth considering with a sane, undisturbed mind. Unless of course I've stumbled into the dimension where people stop and listen to the rambles of brain-dead freaks.

good luck handling the agony tomorrow......

Sapeod
06-02-2011, 08:43 PM
good luck handling the agony tomorrow......
Didn't you say this before he faced Del Potro at the US Open? :spit:

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 08:49 PM
good luck handling the agony tomorrow......
Hey man. Hey.

Yeah. So. Yeah. Wait why would I need luck handling the agony if Murray loses? I either pop myself with a shotgun or I don't. Keep things simple man.

Oh, luckily firearms are illegal here. Clever boy..

Vida
06-02-2011, 08:51 PM
there is always... a rope ;)

NikolaBGD
06-02-2011, 08:55 PM
Didn't you say this before he faced Del Potro at the US Open? :spit:

Danger, what will you do tommorow at 1pm GMT:devil:

Lewis island will hear your roar:angel:

Vida
06-02-2011, 08:57 PM
oh lord! save us the obnoxiousness from world life, in case murray wins.

TheRafaelNadal
06-02-2011, 09:20 PM
I'm so Confident of Nadal winning in 3 Sets i've put £100 on 3-0 Nadal Straight sets victory. Pay out is EVENS so i'll get another 100.

green25814
06-02-2011, 09:24 PM
Isner led Rafa 2 sets to 1 earlier. Counting Muzz out is retarded.

TheRafaelNadal
06-02-2011, 09:43 PM
Isner led Rafa 2 sets to 1 earlier. Counting Muzz out is retarded.

There are 2 reasons for that, Nadal was realy poor in the first few games and secondly Isner could serve really really well and powerfully, he's the last guy you want to be playing in a 1st round of a Grand Slam when your confidence is low. Murray couldn't keep a 1st serve in to save his life...he has one of the worst 1st serve % in this tournament out of every single palyer.

peribsen
06-02-2011, 09:54 PM
There are 2 reasons for that, Nadal was realy poor in the first few games and secondly Isner could serve really really well and powerfully, he's the last guy you want to be playing in a 1st round of a Grand Slam when your confidence is low. Murray couldn't keep a 1st serve in to save his life...he has one of the worst 1st serve % in this tournament out of every single palyer.

Ummm... Karlovic wouldn't be anybody's choice in 1st rd.

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 09:54 PM
Attention Murray fans - No showing off if Murray wins and no grieving/excuses if he loses.

Signed- the true commander of the legend that is Andy Murray.

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 09:57 PM
There are 2 reasons for that, Nadal was realy poor in the first few games and secondly Isner could serve really really well and powerfully, he's the last guy you want to be playing in a 1st round of a Grand Slam when your confidence is low. Murray couldn't keep a 1st serve in to save his life...he has one of the worst 1st serve % in this tournament out of every single palyer.
Actually there's quite a few people you'd much rather not play at the first round when your confidence is low. Djokovic, Federer, Donald Young.. the list goes on really.

Got to be more specific man, or you'll get replies like the above.

peribsen
06-02-2011, 09:59 PM
oh lord! save us the obnoxiousness from world life, in case murray wins.

Don't worry, he'll be obnoxious enough if the Scot loses, it'd actually be refreshing to see him be so for a win, just for this once...

And if the unexpected does happen and Murray beats Nadal, then I'll be the first to enjoy Andy getting one over his many haters, don't think the chap deserves so much spite, he's a worthy rival most of the times for most of his opponents, and has been so for several years now, he deserves a break sooner or later.

Commander Data
06-02-2011, 10:00 PM
If Murray wins this, Nadal can as well retire.

TheRafaelNadal
06-02-2011, 10:03 PM
Actually there's quite a few people you'd much rather not play at the first round when your confidence is low. Djokovic, Federer, Donald Young.. the list goes on really.

Got to be more specific man, or you'll get replies like the above.

Yes because Nadal will play a top 5 player in the 1st round? There are a few others but Isner has a lot of Talent the guy will be top 10 one day.

MaxPower
06-02-2011, 10:11 PM
Yes because Nadal will play a top 5 player in the 1st round? There are a few others but Isner has a lot of Talent the guy will be top 10 one day.

Isner is 26. He'd better get going with his talent then. I personally think Ryan Harrison could be the new top10 american. Doubt Isner ever goes higher than around 20

But yeah using Nadal as a talent indicator is tricky. Lukas Lacko took a 6-0 set over Nadal in Doha. He is a future world nr1?!

A_Skywalker
06-02-2011, 10:13 PM
If Murray wins this, Nadal can as well retire.

I agree

Sham Kay
06-02-2011, 10:18 PM
Yes because Nadal will play a top 5 player in the 1st round? There are a few others but Isner has a lot of Talent the guy will be top 10 one day.
But.. but.. you didn't say Nadal. You said "you".. I assumed you were talking about the reader, or at least about some random tennis player in general.

peribsen
06-02-2011, 10:20 PM
If Murray wins this, Nadal can as well retire.

I agree

Not really. Following your line of thought, he should have retired in 2009 and missed at least three slam wins.

Mungo
06-02-2011, 10:26 PM
If Murray wins this, Nadal can as well retire.

If the joker loses to Olderer in a best of 5 on clay he should retire as well...or move to Australia to play there

KarlyM
06-02-2011, 10:42 PM
Rafa in 4. ;)

green25814
06-02-2011, 11:00 PM
There are 2 reasons for that, Nadal was realy poor in the first few games and secondly Isner could serve really really well and powerfully, he's the last guy you want to be playing in a 1st round of a Grand Slam when your confidence is low. Murray couldn't keep a 1st serve in to save his life...he has one of the worst 1st serve % in this tournament out of every single palyer.

Whatever, the truth is Nadal is not the force on clay he was. His game has regressed. He's the favourite here, but the no 4 player in the world certainly has a chance.

DrJules
06-02-2011, 11:05 PM
Nadal 6-4, 4-6, 6-3, 6-3.

Feel Murray will play one very good set.

Clydey
06-02-2011, 11:34 PM
There are 2 reasons for that, Nadal was realy poor in the first few games and secondly Isner could serve really really well and powerfully, he's the last guy you want to be playing in a 1st round of a Grand Slam when your confidence is low. Murray couldn't keep a 1st serve in to save his life...he has one of the worst 1st serve % in this tournament out of every single palyer.

Doesn't Murray have the most aces in the tournament? Percentage isn't necessarily the highest priority. I would take an extremely effective first serve at 50% over a mildly effective serve at 60%.

Sophocles
06-02-2011, 11:40 PM
Doesn't Murray have the most aces in the tournament? Percentage isn't necessarily the highest priority. I would take an extremely effective first serve at 50% over a mildly effective serve at 60%.

Perhaps, but Murray will have to serve at over 60% to stand a chance against Nadal.

Clydey
06-02-2011, 11:44 PM
Perhaps, but Murray will have to serve at over 60% to stand a chance against Nadal.

I would expect him to do just that, since he has a lot of success with the slice serve against Rafa. I don't like it when he becomes obsessed with the flat serve during matches.

leng jai
06-02-2011, 11:55 PM
Hahahah what an absolute indictment on the game that Murray has reached the SF playing this kind of tennis.

fast_clay
06-03-2011, 12:32 AM
I would expect him to do just that, since he has a lot of success with the slice serve against Rafa. I don't like it when he becomes obsessed with the flat serve during matches.

clydey... big fella... good to see you posting...

every great needs a marker of decline... sadly, at 24, in what perhaps should be most greats peak years, rafa is showing a rapid decline... like a boxer who seems to get old overnight... the will and hunger evaporated...

murray will be that marker of decline...

in regards to the serves... for me, murray relentlessly bombing 1sts for an entire match is a sign that he does not respect that opponent... he knows he'll get the job done either way... just tries to bomb quick games... The Tradesman isn't dumb... he has the tools... he knows that bombing rafa out of it like he did in AO10 wont do here... not in nadal's backyard... i predict a higher 1st serve percentage... The Tradesman will be happy to go toe to toe with rafa off the ground behind serves that are more accurate and still allow him to retain control of the ensuing rally thus devouring what is left of nadal's masculinity since he did that fuckheaded shakira vid...

Hahahah what an absolute indictment on the game that Murray has reached the SF playing this kind of tennis.

i hope a disgruntled geelong bogan high kicks you in the adam's apple...

that is all...

saniapower
06-03-2011, 04:28 AM
Murray also getting votes :o

Clay Death
06-03-2011, 04:49 AM
some people here need to dispense with the crack pipe for good. its doing a lot of harm.


murray is an awesome athlete and an incredible talent with every shot in the book. now he has proven that he can play on clay.

however the buck stops here. clay warrior has deep mental and physical reserves.

translation: murray will take a set and keep nadal on the court for nearly 4 hours but he cannot win.

and nadal needs exactly this type of a tough test. this is ideal preparation for the final.

thanks for the workout highlander but now its time for you to go home. you have done your job well.

Start da Game
06-03-2011, 05:25 AM
What makes you think I wish? Are you seriously trying to tell me Nadal won't ever spend some time in a wheelchair. Don't be so naive.

how are you glenn mirnyi?

tests
06-03-2011, 05:32 AM
murray is going to get blasted imho

TennisLurker
06-03-2011, 06:10 AM
To be sincere, I don't imagine a 27 years old Rafa winning slams, he has run too much, his game is too physical, and his game depends too much on his running to continue being top dog after losing half a step of speed. He could still win multiple slams in his few remaining years.

Foxy
06-03-2011, 07:19 AM
Murray needed almost 3 hours to beat 31 year old exhausted player. On top of that Chela had 5 out of 17 break point conversations. Suddenly I don't like Murray's chances.

iriraz
06-03-2011, 07:23 AM
If i make a comparison with soccer,let`s say Murray has been Real Madrid this tournament.He beat the likes of Albacete,Athletic Bilbao or Almeria with scores like 2-1 or 3-2,far from convincing and now he has to face Barcelona.It`s a big jump from those teams to the biggest.

foul_dwimmerlaik
06-03-2011, 08:19 AM
Murray is not taking a set here, and everyone who thinks he does, gotta stop hallucinating. The guy who was 2 sets down to Troicki, 2 breaks down to Chela (and choking like mad) has NO CHANCE against Nadal. The british pantywaist got that far thanks solely to the clown draw full of chokers and/or mugs. Now it's time to vacate the premises.

Commander Data
06-03-2011, 08:25 AM
Not really. Following your line of thought, he should have retired in 2009 and missed at least three slam wins.

It is different now. 2009 was a surprise, looked like a ditch in the road. this year Nadal has shown poor form since while, now is the time where it shows if he still got it. losing would mean that his game has really declined and turned him into a beatable clay player (losing to Nole and MUrray, I mean c'mon...). Considering that Murray is in medicore form, losing here may hint that Nadal will be stuck with 9 GS IMHO.

If the joker loses to Olderer in a best of 5 on clay he should retire as well...or move to Australia to play there

I wouldn't mind Djoker retiring :D

Start da Game
06-03-2011, 08:28 AM
Murray is not taking a set here, and everyone who thinks he does, gotta stop hallucinating. The guy who was 2 sets down to Troicki, 2 breaks down to Chela (and choking like mad) has NO CHANCE against Nadal. The british pantywaist got that far thanks solely to the clown draw full of chokers and/or mugs. Now it's time to vacate the premises.

great post, all the endless murray hyping bullshit in this thread is not fascinating at all......that weak retriever should consider himself extremely lucky to have made it this far and having the privilege of playing nadal at the french open.......

Commander Data
06-03-2011, 08:32 AM
great post, all the endless murray hyping bullshit in this thread is not fascinating at all......that weak retriever should consider himself extremely lucky to have made it this far and having the privilege of playing nadal at the french open.......

absolutly, anything else then a str8t set beatdown by Nadal would hint that Rafa is only a shadow of his former self.

MsTree
06-03-2011, 08:38 AM
If i make a comparison with soccer,let`s say Murray has been Real Madrid this tournament.He beat the likes of Albacete,Athletic Bilbao or Almeria with scores like 2-1 or 3-2,far from convincing and now he has to face Barcelona.It`s a big jump from those teams to the biggest.

Maybe this is the final of the Copa del Rey :p

iriraz
06-03-2011, 08:54 AM
Maybe this is the final of the Copa del Rey :p

I would compare Copa del Rey with a Masters Event and the Grand Slam is the Champions League ;)

RafaFan95
06-03-2011, 10:34 AM
I`m very nervous. I think Rafa will win, but in 4.

Certinfy
06-03-2011, 10:52 AM
Murray is not taking a set here, and everyone who thinks he does, gotta stop hallucinating. The guy who was 2 sets down to Troicki, 2 breaks down to Chela (and choking like mad) has NO CHANCE against Nadal. The british pantywaist got that far thanks solely to the clown draw full of chokers and/or mugs. Now it's time to vacate the premises.
Murray played like utter shit though, even he admitted that, if he plays well who knows what could happen.

Diprosalic
06-03-2011, 11:51 AM
against Nadal.

edit: should be 1-2 and not 1-3

sexybeast
06-03-2011, 11:52 AM
10

Sonja1989
06-03-2011, 11:54 AM
Lot of game, maybe one set too.

Time Violation
06-03-2011, 11:55 AM
Nice jinx :D