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(RG '11) Six qualifiers in round 32 of a slam... record?

LocoPorElTenis
05-26-2011, 08:06 PM
Kubot, Falla, Rosol, Darcis, Veic and Leo Mayer. Is this unprecedented? Kubot and Rosol got big scalps as well.
By contrast only four non-seeded players with direct entry made it to round 32 (not counting Chardy who is one set down to Simon right now).

Orka_n
05-26-2011, 08:11 PM
Good for the game.

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 08:12 PM
All this tells me is this event sucks. Wake me up when it's over. I'm only following it exclusively because of my guy Darcis.

Action Jackson
05-26-2011, 08:13 PM
Love it.

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 08:13 PM
I haven't seen more than maybe 4 well played matches this entire tournament, men's or women's. Then again, it is nice to see lower ability players having their time to shine.

LocoPorElTenis
05-26-2011, 08:14 PM
All this tells me is this event sucks. Wake me up when it's over. I'm only following it exclusively because of my guy Darcis.

Why does it suck to have new talented blood, players coming back to form and/or surprises? :confused:

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 08:14 PM
Because there isn't decent tennis being played.

Action Jackson
05-26-2011, 08:15 PM
Because there isn't decent tennis being played.

None of your faves made it, so you're having a cry.

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 08:16 PM
I like the surprises, to a certain extent. It's also good to see players who you know can actually keep a decent form for more than 2 or 3 matches. But the quality of play, especially today, was not good.

SVK
05-26-2011, 08:16 PM
As an etarnal fan of underdogs I love it very much.

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 08:17 PM
None of your faves made it, so you're having a cry.
A few of my favorites have, which thank tennis Jesus they have, but overall, the tennis quality at this event has been bad, and I don't really consider this a clay event anymore. It's hard court tennis being played on clay.

Orka_n
05-26-2011, 08:18 PM
Because there isn't decent tennis being played.I thought you loved following challengers? ;)

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 08:20 PM
Korolev-Junqueira was better tennis than basically every single ATP and WTA match I saw today. It was also played on a real clay court, not a hard court with dirt on it.

The challengers are usually better tennis than the ATP matches, especially from a competitive standpoint.

Young 8
05-26-2011, 08:22 PM
Korolev-Junqueira was better tennis than basically every single ATP and WTA match I saw today. It was also played on a real clay court, not a hard court with dirt on it.

The challengers are usually better tennis than the ATP matches, especially from a competitive standpoint.

lol

Nathaliia
05-26-2011, 08:25 PM
Korolev-Junqueira was better tennis than basically every single ATP and WTA match I saw today. It was also played on a real clay court, not a hard court with dirt on it.

The challengers are usually better tennis than the ATP matches, especially from a competitive standpoint.
Still it made a guy like Bjorn Phau win it last year and this year let dudes like Bemelmans and Nielsen of all people advance to the quarters (Carreno Busta also punished a more pushing opponent and Korolev should have eliminated the dirtballer Junqueira, not to mention Bautista-Agut another quick court specialist will soon join them).

Action Jackson
05-26-2011, 08:26 PM
A few of my favorites have, which thank tennis Jesus they have, but overall, the tennis quality at this event has been bad, and I don't really consider this a clay event anymore. It's hard court tennis being played on clay.

It hasn't been clay tennis for the past 6 or 7 years apart from peak Nadal. Today wasn't hot at all, it's the weather that impacts on clay, you should know this.

SerialKillerToBe
05-26-2011, 08:28 PM
None of your faves made it, so you're having a cry.

I never knew mods could troll, but I guess you guys have special privileges. :devil:

Action Jackson
05-26-2011, 08:30 PM
I never knew mods could troll, but I guess you guys have special privileges. :devil:

Filo and I have an understanding. He overreacts and dramatises things, whereas I let him know when he does it. Works perfectly.

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 08:31 PM
AJ knows when to keep me in check.

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 08:34 PM
It hasn't been clay tennis for the past 6 or 7 years apart from peak Nadal. Today wasn't hot at all, it's the weather that impacts on clay, you should know this.

I have known it, but this year it seems more extreme than in the past. Today I expected medium-slow conditions, but it was still pretty quick. I'm not a fan of the way the courts are playing at all. It's like watching an indoor event at times. Strategy has mostly gone out the window. I think they have taken away what made clay court tennis special.

Action Jackson
05-26-2011, 08:39 PM
It's very windy today, it wasn't overtly fast or slow today. Serve well it'll work on any surface but the footwork is more important on a day like this.

Jomp1
05-26-2011, 08:42 PM
Rain will make it slow, not wind. Still no rain, so it will stay fast. But, I see players needing to win points both three, four and five times, or in Andujar's case today more like seven times. Stop exaggerating the court speeds.

iriraz
05-26-2011, 08:43 PM
Also there are guys out there who have struggled to adjust with the new balls.When u introduce new balls for first time in a slam u should expect surprises.

Pirata.
05-26-2011, 08:51 PM
I have to agree with Filo V that the quality at this slam has been fairly poor in these early rounds. Top ten players losing to journeymen, Nadal playing like he's never even seen a clay court before, mug chokes like Andujar today, etc.

straitup
05-26-2011, 08:55 PM
I have to agree with Filo V that the quality at this slam has been fairly poor in these early rounds. Top ten players losing to journeymen, Nadal playing like he's never even seen a clay court before, mug chokes like Andujar today, etc.

It's been like that for a few years. Maybe not the top tenners losing to journeymen and the chokes, but when was the last time there was a really really good early round match in Paris?

Lee
05-26-2011, 08:58 PM
The draw helps too. In round 3, you have 2 qualifiers Falla sv Kubot and DelPo vs Djokovic. :shrug: And if Rosol manages to beat Chela, there will be a qualifier in QF :p

iriraz
05-26-2011, 08:58 PM
It's been like that for a few years. Maybe not the top tenners losing to journeymen and the chokes, but when was the last time there was a really really good early round match in Paris?

Last year in R1 Gasquet-Murray was pretty good until Gasquet faded in 5th set

Action Jackson
05-26-2011, 08:59 PM
Rain will make it slow, not wind. Still no rain, so it will stay fast. But, I see players needing to win points both three, four and five times, or in Andujar's case today more like seven times. Stop exaggerating the court speeds.

It was cloudy today hence it wasn't so fast. Need the clear skies like the earlier days and non watering of the courts.

As for whining about the lack of good matches, well they've been there. Livestreams aren't hard to find, usually the best matches early aren't on TV courts.

zerocool_
05-26-2011, 09:00 PM
Love it.

+1

Great for game.

straitup
05-26-2011, 09:00 PM
Last year in R1 Gasquet-Murray was pretty good until Gasquet faded in 5th set

You have a point...the only match from last year I could think of was Fog-Monfils :o

But I mean you get lots of very good matches in the early rounds at other tournaments, it's just not the case here for the past few years

Filo V.
05-26-2011, 09:04 PM
Still it made a guy like Bjorn Phau win it last year and this year let dudes like Bemelmans and Nielsen of all people advance to the quarters (Carreno Busta also punished a more pushing opponent and Korolev should have eliminated the dirtballer Junqueira, not to mention Bautista-Agut another quick court specialist will soon join them).

It's quick but the surface is playing like a clay court, a quick clay court, not a hard court. RG is playing like a hard court. But I agree that some of the hardcourters are doing good in Alessandria.

Jomp1
05-26-2011, 09:07 PM
It was cloudy today hence it wasn't so fast. Need the clear skies like the earlier days and non watering of the courts.

As for whining about the lack of good matches, well they've been there. Livestreams aren't hard to find, usually the best matches early aren't on TV courts.

Yeah, but it's pretty fast by default, above your avarage clay court anyway. Of course sun will make it even faster. However, no need to exaggerate the speed like Filo does saying it's not real clay. I actually think this surface is great and bodes for good tennis. The players just need to do their part..

Garson007
05-26-2011, 09:12 PM
Not real clay. It never is when Nadal plays badly. :shrug:

Action Jackson
05-26-2011, 09:21 PM
Yeah, but it's pretty fast by default, above your avarage clay court anyway. Of course sun will make it even faster. However, no need to exaggerate the speed like Filo does saying it's not real clay. I actually think this surface is great and bodes for good tennis. The players just need to do their part..

Personally I'd rather it was slower, but there is only so much you can do with clay being a natural surface. It's a challenge got to adjust I just want someone else to win a Slam.

luie
05-26-2011, 09:24 PM
Nadull spends 7 & 1/2 hrs on court for 2 matches & suddenly its not "real clay".What about the past few years when there wasn't any competition @ the elite level on clay..hilarious.

tennisfan856
05-26-2011, 09:27 PM
the clay warm-up season can kill you if you don't schedule properly . A lot of these upsets are from players who laid out a stupid schedule for themselves. Dusseldorf and Nice should be reserved for the clay goats Michael Russell and Go Soeda.

out_here_grindin
05-26-2011, 09:31 PM
I love seeing new guys advance. I really wish Ilhan had pulled out his match. Although there is the negative of the top guys getting easier matches later on

MaxPower
05-26-2011, 10:05 PM
Feels like at least one of them could reach the QF. Especially in that easy section. That would be amazing for that guy for a number of reasons

the ranking boost

the money boost. Imagine going from playing challengers and qualifiers to then rake in 150 000 euros.


No wonder the qualifiers often fold under the pressure

Ibracadabra
05-26-2011, 10:35 PM
Please coria, come back