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Are any tennis players the most famous person in their respective country?

2003
05-09-2011, 01:50 AM
Novak Djokovic..What would you say?

Is he more recognised than any other Serbian politician, famous person, president etc?

Is he the one person all the kids in Serbia want to be?

Roger Federer?

Rafael Nadal? Some footballers and Fernando Alonzo are probably more spoken of.

Aloimeh
05-09-2011, 04:52 AM
What would you say?

Is he more recognised than any other Serbian politician, famous person, president etc?

Is he the one person all the kids in Serbia want to be?

Are you talking people currently living, historical people, what?

The Magician
05-09-2011, 05:57 AM
It's probably Slobodan Milošević :tape:

2003
05-09-2011, 06:27 AM
Currently alive persons

bokehlicious
05-09-2011, 08:07 AM
currently living most probably, otherwise Milosevic obviously... :o

Nole fan
05-09-2011, 08:09 AM
Positive role person = Djokovic.

Time Violation
05-09-2011, 08:29 AM
At this moment perhaps, but in general I don't think so. Many people in Serbia couldn't care less about tennis or follow tennis just because they follow sport in general :) For many football is/was/will always be no 1. :o

jeremda01
05-09-2011, 08:38 AM
At this moment perhaps, but in general I don't think so. Many people in Serbia couldn't care less about tennis or follow tennis just because they follow sport in general :) For many football is/was/will always be no 1. :o

so....someone like vidic is perhaps is more popular :shrug:

Pirata.
05-09-2011, 09:09 AM
Vidic (United) and Ivanovic (Chelsea) are probably just as famous.

Time Violation
05-09-2011, 09:13 AM
To be honest, I don't have a clue who is at the moment :p Probably there is a big difference between Belgrade and Novi Sad (two biggest cities in Serbia) and the rest of Serbia; while in Belgrade Novak is probably huge, in many other parts I wouldn't be surprised that people don't care much/barely have heard about him :) Same goes for older vs younger people etc.

Politicians are probably still the most recognizable faces here, sadly.

finishingmove
05-09-2011, 09:28 AM
Milka Canic

Time Violation
05-09-2011, 09:36 AM
Milka Canic

Yea, if you are 70+ yrs old crossword puzzle solver, she's hot :p

finishingmove
05-09-2011, 09:39 AM
hot or not, she's the most famous :shrug: :D

Nole fan
05-09-2011, 09:54 AM
To be honest, I don't have a clue who is at the moment :p Probably there is a big difference between Belgrade and Novi Sad (two biggest cities in Serbia) and the rest of Serbia; while in Belgrade Novak is probably huge, in many other parts I wouldn't be surprised that people don't care much/barely have heard about him :) Same goes for older vs younger people etc.

Politicians are probably still the most recognizable faces here, sadly.

Aren't you taking it too far? come on... that's ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Corey Feldman
05-09-2011, 10:04 AM
no, far more famous Yugoslavs then 2 slam wonder

Time Violation
05-09-2011, 10:05 AM
Is it too far? Perhaps... but I'm not too convinced. :) Maybe some other Serbians will share their opinion. :)

SloKid
05-09-2011, 12:53 PM
Vidic (United) and Ivanovic (Chelsea) are probably just as famous.
I don't think Ivanovic is that famous to be honest. Someone like Stankovic is probably more famous.

There are other sports people, from older generations, who I think are more famous than Djokovic. Someone like Vlade Divac or Piksi Stojkovic for example.

buddyholly
05-09-2011, 12:54 PM
When you get a thread in non-tennis, surely you have reached the top.

Well, in the tennis world maybe. But, due to a cargo door that wouldn't open, when I got stuck in an airport departure lounge a few years ago in Toronto with Nadal, Moya, Youzhny, Tursunov, Ferrer and a few others on their way to Cincinnatti, nobody but myself took the slightest interest.

Nole fan
05-09-2011, 01:16 PM
I don't think Ivanovic is that famous to be honest. Someone like Stankovic is probably more famous.

There are other sports people, from older generations, who I think are more famous than Djokovic. Someone like Vlade Divac or Piksi Stojkovic for example.

Never heard of them.

Sonja1989
05-09-2011, 01:34 PM
I think yes, he is in these days.

Action Jackson
05-09-2011, 01:35 PM
Dragan Stojkovic

SloKid
05-09-2011, 01:35 PM
Never heard of them.
So what? That tells me more about you (and not really in a good way) than about Divac and Stojkovic. Your blind defense of anything Djoko-related is amusing though. :)

But since you're such a big football fan, let me enlighten you about Stojkovic. His two goals in the 1990 World Cup eliminated your Spain:
ItJuZKyjcbM

Getta
05-09-2011, 01:38 PM
Never heard of them.

Divac

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Nole Rules
05-09-2011, 01:42 PM
Milan Stankovic. lol

Action Jackson
05-09-2011, 01:45 PM
King Stojkovic

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fast_clay
05-09-2011, 01:45 PM
Vlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade Diiiiiiiiiiiiivac

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/patma2003/nba_jam_james_worthy_vlade_divac.jpg

divac would turn your shit over all day... what a sick player...

i still have to see that espn flick Once Brothers

SloKid
05-09-2011, 01:57 PM
i still have to see that espn flick Once Brothers
A must watch. Moved me to tears. :lol: Great stuff.

Lalalovesong
05-09-2011, 01:58 PM
I'm not entirely sure, but I hope he is. From the outside he surely is. Although it still surprises me that a lot of people still don't know which country he comes from.

What annoys me is his constant 'promoting' of Serbia! He has a great tournament in Belgrade and should leave it to that. He needs to stop wearing those hideous Serbia promoting shirts after every achievement. It just doesn't look professional somehow, it's rather cliché.

Sapeod
05-09-2011, 02:40 PM
Lol, no.

~Maya~
05-09-2011, 03:41 PM
I am sure some of you never visited Serbia, but you still trying to be smart asses

Time Violation
05-09-2011, 03:53 PM
Never heard of them.

Of course you haven't, but that doesn't really matter, as this topic is about Djokovic in Serbia, not outside of Serbia :)

Lol, no.

And just how would you know, lol?

What annoys me is his constant 'promoting' of Serbia! He has a great tournament in Belgrade and should leave it to that. He needs to stop wearing those hideous Serbia promoting shirts after every achievement. It just doesn't look professional somehow, it's rather cliché.

Hm... don't take this wrongly, but you should be from Serbia to really appreciate or understand that. :) After being crapped on by so many politicians, tycoons, foreign powers etc, it somehow feels good to be "remembered" by someone genuinely successful and who absolutely has no reason for that. As I remember from the comments, after Novak's speech at AO, some people were almost moved to tears. :)

peribsen
05-09-2011, 04:03 PM
Well right now he must be the best known man not only in Serbia but also in Returnserbia, not to speak of Dropshotia, Breakpointya, Groundshotia, Nettya, Defendia and Attakia.... guy is the works right now!

Nole fan
05-09-2011, 06:14 PM
So what? That tells me more about you (and not really in a good way) than about Divac and Stojkovic. Your blind defense of anything Djoko-related is amusing though. :)

But since you're such a big football fan, let me enlighten you about Stojkovic. His two goals in the 1990 World Cup eliminated your Spain:
ItJuZKyjcbM

I couldn't care less. :zzz:

Nole fan
05-09-2011, 06:16 PM
I'm not entirely sure, but I hope he is. From the outside he surely is. Although it still surprises me that a lot of people still don't know which country he comes from.

What annoys me is his constant 'promoting' of Serbia! He has a great tournament in Belgrade and should leave it to that. He needs to stop wearing those hideous Serbia promoting shirts after every achievement. It just doesn't look professional somehow, it's rather cliché.

True. +1

ExcaliburII
05-09-2011, 06:24 PM
So what? That tells me more about you (and not really in a good way) than about Divac and Stojkovic. Your blind defense of anything Djoko-related is amusing though. :)

But since you're such a big football fan, let me enlighten you about Stojkovic. His two goals in the 1990 World Cup eliminated your Spain:


:lol:

Brick Top
05-09-2011, 06:42 PM
Vladimir Stojkovic ;)

abraxas21
05-09-2011, 06:47 PM
i guess only serbians and foreigners living in serbia should answer this since the rest of the us wouldn't know whos the most famous person in serbia.

abraxas21
05-09-2011, 06:52 PM
and our opinions as tennis fans evidently colour our perceptions

some years ago i was a big basketball fan and the serbian i was most familiarized with was peja stojakovic

Time Violation
05-09-2011, 06:58 PM
Lol, then you must appreciate Peja's payback on Lakers... 6/6 for three in the 4th game/sweep :D

PandoraPandora
05-09-2011, 07:31 PM
I've only heard of him, Ana, Jelena. I cant remember the names of the war criminals. I think this is a question best answered by Serbians?

DrJules
05-09-2011, 09:07 PM
and our opinions as tennis fans evidently colour our perceptions

some years ago i was a big basketball fan and the serbian i was most familiarized with was peja stojakovic

Very true.

He is certainly the most famous Serbian outside Serbia.

TMJordan
05-10-2011, 04:14 AM
When Djokovic has his own bobble head come talk to me.

http://boomrz.net/images/DIVAC1JPG.JPG

Aloimeh
05-10-2011, 05:07 AM
Very true.

He is certainly the most famous Serbian outside Serbia.

Currently living? Probably. I should hope not of all time!

wee
05-10-2011, 07:07 AM
no

Seingeist
05-10-2011, 08:22 AM
I remember Vlade Divac! I used to follow the NBA when I was younger. He was quite good. Of course, as a child, I had no idea where he was from.

As it happens, given the popularity of basketball compared to tennis here in the US, I would wager that Divac is more well-known here than Djokovic by a decent margin.

bokehlicious
05-10-2011, 11:16 AM
Djokovic isn't even the most famous Serbian on MTF, finishingmove is :shrug:

Time Violation
05-10-2011, 01:02 PM
^^ Do you troll every possible Nole thread on the forum? I really wonder :) Anyway, to keep it simple - is Nole a famous person in Serbia? Yes, he is. Is he a Serbian version of Pele/Maradona/Beckham/Michael Jordan? Probably not :)

Mistaflava
05-10-2011, 05:08 PM
Better question is, what percentage of people in the world can a) name you at least one Serb and b) show you Serbia on a map.

I am guessing close to 0.1%

Time Violation
05-10-2011, 05:26 PM
^^That's optimistic even :D Close to zero I guess... at best they would show you Siberia :P

Nole fan
05-10-2011, 09:45 PM
Just saying that Djokovic put Serbia on the map for many people and in a positive way. ;)

fast_clay
05-10-2011, 10:18 PM
When Djokovic has his own bobble head come talk to me.

http://boomrz.net/images/DIVAC1JPG.JPG

:lol: :rocker2:

DIVAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHH

fucking divac was roaming the lanes with the legends... when a legend was a legend... and he was one of them...

Aloimeh
05-10-2011, 10:30 PM
Just saying that Djokovic put Serbia on the map for many people and in a positive way. ;)

Which is again very depressing to me. Not the latter part, but that someone far more important is not better known. And he had a physical resemblance to Djokovic.

Getta
05-10-2011, 10:35 PM
Nikola Tesla?

Time Violation
05-10-2011, 10:53 PM
Tesla didn't need popularity, just better funding :D Unfortunately, the crisis and all put an early end to that.

Getta
05-10-2011, 11:01 PM
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Getta
05-10-2011, 11:23 PM
a very interesting short article

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2011/01/26/feature-04

NikolaBGD
05-11-2011, 12:11 AM
Nikola Tesla is the most famous Serb in history, but Novak nowdays is most popular person in Serbia, no doubt about that, many people didn't even know tennis rules before him, but today is common to hear older people in the park talking about tennis, and many kids start to practise tennis.

There are other popular serb in sport - Stojkovic, Divac, Bodiroga, Djordjevic, Vidic, Stankovic... but Nole is No.1 ;)

fast_clay
05-11-2011, 12:26 AM
tennis players come and go...

official units of measurement never disappear...

rocketassist
05-11-2011, 03:05 AM
Mirko Cvetkovic

jmf07
05-11-2011, 05:20 AM
What about Alex Bogdanovic?

Time Violation
05-11-2011, 06:02 AM
Mirko Cvetkovic

Loool :p

What about Alex Bogdanovic?

I guess he is known to die-hard tennis fans, but that's about it :)

oranges
05-11-2011, 06:24 AM
Pretty sure Ceca or someone similar is more widely known ;)

2003
05-11-2011, 06:30 AM
Is Roger Federer the most famous person in Switzerland?

bokehlicious
05-11-2011, 08:29 AM
Is Roger Federer the most famous person in Switzerland?

No, William Tell is :shrug:

jmf07
05-11-2011, 08:41 AM
I would imagine Baghdatis is pretty famous in Cyprus.

Time Violation
05-11-2011, 10:20 AM
Is Roger Federer the most famous person in Switzerland?

Pirmin Zurbriggen was my favorite Swiss when I was a kid :D

Chiseller
05-11-2011, 10:34 AM
Mijatovic all the way

Nathaliia
05-11-2011, 02:53 PM
Wojtek Fibak is still popular in Poland but maybe because of touching the underage girls (and the year of consent here is 15, so...).

ibreak4coffee
05-11-2011, 04:55 PM
I think Baghdatis circa 2006.

Today, maybe just Daniel Brands

tennisfan856
05-11-2011, 05:02 PM
I think for a certain period of time, maybe Paradorn Srichaphan sniffed some of this status.

GugaF1
05-12-2011, 12:19 AM
In Brazil is the fotball player of Flamengo Petkovic, everyone knows him here. I am curious if he is known in Serbia Much?

Time Violation
05-12-2011, 06:00 AM
In Brazil is the fotball player of Flamengo Petkovic, everyone knows him here. I am curious if he is known in Serbia Much?

So-so. :) He never played for the Serbian national team (because Serbian football is corrupted to the bone/manager's pushing their own players most of the time) and only recently he's been the talk, since people were surprised to hear he's that popular in Brazil :)
There's a documentary about him that is just opening in Serbian cinemas, so probably he will gain some more fame with it, but probably not nearly as much as he should.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfph95P-WHM

2003
05-12-2011, 10:22 AM
Surely Roger must have been top 3 famous people in Switzerland during 2003-2010 and still now

bokehlicious
05-12-2011, 10:29 AM
I think for a certain period of time, maybe Paradorn Srichaphan sniffed some of this status.

Thaksin Shinawatra

dombrfc
05-12-2011, 10:30 AM
Bagdhatis?

zerocool_
05-12-2011, 10:56 AM
Nikola Tesla?


And i were afraid no one will mention Tesla.. He's most famous Serb in history.

GugaF1
05-12-2011, 05:56 PM
So-so. :) He never played for the Serbian national team (because Serbian football is corrupted to the bone/manager's pushing their own players most of the time) and only recently he's been the talk, since people were surprised to hear he's that popular in Brazil :)
There's a documentary about him that is just opening in Serbian cinemas, so probably he will gain some more fame with it, but probably not nearly as much as he should.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfph95P-WHM

Cool, I would like to see this documentary. Is crazy he never played for Serbia's national team, he is very good technically and most important has nerves of steel, what marked in him in Flamengo is that on decisive occasions he would play the best and decided many games on last momments with striking a fauls and important goals.

Nole fan
05-12-2011, 05:57 PM
There is a difference between the most famous ever and the most famous now.

Lopez
05-12-2011, 06:10 PM
There is a difference between the most famous ever and the most famous now.

Doesn't the concept ever entail the present :scratch:.

A lot of sports related answers here which is expected from a sports forum but Tesla has to be the answer here.

2003
05-12-2011, 10:46 PM
I think worldwide more people would recognise Djokovic than Tesla

Getta
05-12-2011, 11:41 PM
but, who's the hottie badass (http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html) that invented the death ray (http://davidszondy.com/future/tesla/teslaray.htm)?

Lopez
05-13-2011, 06:26 AM
I think worldwide more people would recognise Djokovic than Tesla

From a picture perhaps.

From the name? Not sure about that. Anyone with even an elementary grasp of physics has heard about Tesla (or at least should have :D ).

peribsen
05-13-2011, 08:57 AM
Surely Gavrilo Princip.

Lopez
05-13-2011, 09:06 AM
Surely Gavrilo Princip.

I thought about him as well ;)

Hesse
05-13-2011, 10:05 AM
Rastko Stojković - handball player :)

zerocool_
05-13-2011, 10:50 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs#Famous_Serbs
This might help.

zeleni
05-13-2011, 01:20 PM
^In math, Jovan Karamata > Mihailo Petrovic.:p

Aloimeh
05-13-2011, 03:59 PM
In politics, Constantine XI, last Roman Emperor (half):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_XI

Ivan the Terrible (quarter)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Glinskaya

Getta
05-13-2011, 04:05 PM
shouldn't he be better known as the last Byzantine emperor?

Aloimeh
05-13-2011, 06:41 PM
shouldn't he be better known as the last Byzantine emperor?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_greeks

Yes and no. Byzantine is a term westerners used because they refused to call them Roman. Sometimes westerners called the Eastern Roman emperor "King of the Greeks," a term they found very insulting.

However, the Eastern Romans were a continuous succession (not by blood, they changed dynasties, of course) from Rome. In fact, they never called themselves Byzantines and rarely called themselves Greeks, preferring to call themselves Romaioi or Romioi (Romans), the terms from which the Arabs and Turks got the words "Rum" (another name for Greece) and also the origin of the word Rumelia.

A bit surprised that you as a Greek weren't aware of this.

Getta
05-13-2011, 06:59 PM
A bit surprised that you as a Greek weren't aware of this.

if you called Konstantinos XI Palaiologos (the Marble Emperor or Μαρμαρωμένος Βασιλιάς) "Roman emperor" anywhere in Greece you could get lynched for anti-hellenic talk. i'm not joking.

Aloimeh, while you're a brilliant theorist your readiness to conduct experiments is seriously questioned.

Aloimeh
05-13-2011, 07:13 PM
if you called Konstantinos XI Palaiologos (the Marble Emperor or Μαρμαρωμένος Βασιλιάς) "Roman emperor" anywhere in Greece you could get lynched for anti-hellenic talk. i'm not joking.

Aloimeh, while you're a brilliant theorist your readiness to conduct experiments is seriously questioned.

Touche! Are you serious? Why? Do Greeks look down on Romans specifically or is this just one of those "don't steal our guy from us" things?

I've always dreamed of writing an epic poem on the Marble Emperor and the Fall. Of course, key word is "dreamed." Not much time for that in my schedule now or in the foreseeable future.

mylessa
05-14-2011, 02:29 AM
Novak is the most popular sportsperson in Serbia currently, no question. But, we are talking about the most famous, right? Serbia is a small country. There is no such a person here. If your question is "Can you find a single soul living in Serbia who doesn't know who Novak is?" The answer is probably no. But he isn't the only one. Here we have lots of politicians :rolleyes:, sportspeople, musicians, historical figures etc. all Serbians know.

zeleni
05-14-2011, 12:09 PM
Aloimeh, I think Getta wanted to point out on popular perception of Byzantine Empire in modern Greece. I believe she is aware of facts you mentioned and distinction between facts and their interpretation.

peribsen
05-14-2011, 02:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_greeks

Yes and no. Byzantine is a term westerners used because they refused to call them Roman. Sometimes westerners called the Eastern Roman emperor "King of the Greeks," a term they found very insulting.

However, the Eastern Romans were a continuous succession (not by blood, they changed dynasties, of course) from Rome. In fact, they never called themselves Byzantines and rarely called themselves Greeks, preferring to call themselves Romaioi or Romioi (Romans), the terms from which the Arabs and Turks got the words "Rum" (another name for Greece) and also the origin of the word Rumelia.

+1. I agree fully with this post. Though modern Greeks identify the Byzantine Empire with themselves, and have many god reasons for doing so, fact remains that the Byzantines considered themselves the true inheritors of Rome down to the very end, and that the refusal to acknowledge them as such had more to do with medieval Western disdain for things Greek and Orthodox than with a desire by the Empire to renounce the inheritance that by right was theirs. Western arrogance of course only managed to make Greeks even more nationalistic, and the trend was followed by the Slavs, when they became the upholders of mainstream Orthodoxy after the fall of Constantinople. Ivan III of Muscovy considered Russia to be the third Rome.

JolánGagó
05-16-2011, 10:28 AM
"Byzantine" Empire = Eastern Roman Empire, de iure and de facto.

Tesla was Croatian.

next.

Getta
05-16-2011, 10:50 AM
"Byzantine" Empire = Eastern Roman Empire, de iure and de facto.

thought you have been introduced to the mysteries of the East.

Tesla was Croatian.

Tesla was proud of his Serbian origin and his Croatian homeland.

next.

don't you dare leave us.

Getta
05-16-2011, 11:34 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs#Famous_Serbs
This might help.

how on earth could i forget Goran Bregović (born in Sarajevo to Croatian father and Serbian mother) and Emir Kusturica (born in Sarajevo to Serbian father and Bosnian mother)?

they both have some of their best and loyal fans in Greece.


RO0nlcceoH8


soundtrack from Emir Kusturica's Arizona Dream
A9oHqybPoX8

Aloimeh
05-16-2011, 12:52 PM
thought you have been introduced to the mysteries of the East.



Tesla was proud of his Serbian origin and his Croatian homeland.



don't you dare leave us.

That pride in his Croatian homeland would change into something very different if he had known what happened to his village in 1941 and I believe he did hear some rumors shortly before he died in 1943, but I digress.

how on earth could i forget Goran Bregović (born in Sarajevo to Croatian father and Serbian mother) and Emir Kusturica (born in Sarajevo to Serbian father and Bosnian mother)?

they both have some of their best and loyal fans in Greece.


RO0nlcceoH8


soundtrack from Emir Kusturica's Arizona Dream
A9oHqybPoX8

As for Kusturica, both his parents were Muslim ("Bosniak" in modern parlance). However, his father's family always considered themselves to be Muslim Serbs, since it's well known that Bosnian Muslims were Orthodox or more rarely Catholic prior to conversion to Islam. Kusturica's identification with Serbs is more a result of the disintegration of Yugoslavia (where Serbs were perceived as the would-be preservers of Yugoslavia and several other nations as the breakers) than anything else.

Anyway, Kusturica tracked down his family roots to the church records in Kotor in Montenegro and did end up proving to himself that centuries ago his ancestors were Montenegrin Serbs with the surname of Babic.

The same phenomenon was seen in the life of another famous Muslim Serb, Mehmed Selimovic. He did not convert to Orthodoxy as did Kusturica, however.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meša_Selimović

Death and the Dervish is a great book from what most people who've read it say. I've never read it myself. I believe Selimovic traced his family roots to the Vujovic family in Hercegovina. His Serb national identification was very unpalatable in Sarajevo Muslim circles and so he had to leave and settled and died in Belgrade.