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Or Levy
04-25-2011, 10:04 AM
I love the books, and wondered whether anyone was watching the HBO series.

vucina
04-28-2011, 10:54 AM
I love the books, and wondered whether anyone was watching the HBO series.
It's mint.

Or Levy
04-28-2011, 11:43 AM
I didn't get it, what's mint?

vucina
04-28-2011, 11:58 AM
That's slang for good, awesome...
What do you think of it?

Or Levy
04-28-2011, 12:05 PM
LOL, never heard that one before.

I think it is as good as a fan of the books can possibly hope for, sure I can nitpick (Jon looks clueless at times, and some epic lines are missing), but they are doing a great job - casting is great.

The actress playing Arya is fantastic.

vucina
04-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Yeah, there's an interesting plot, more blood than Kleybanova's sweat and incest. The whole thing is a mixture of "Lord of the rings" and softcore porn, what's not to like?

Or Levy
04-28-2011, 01:03 PM
I don't know whether you've read the books, but it is very, very far from the lord of the rings. The porn was included in the books, in fact - much more so. It's a very cruel, yet realistic world Martin has described, sex and blood are a part of it.

EKSTREMISTA
04-28-2011, 01:21 PM
The cast is almost perfect. Except for Catelyn Stark and Cercei. Mischelle is to old and to ugly to play Catelyn.
On the other hand, Lena is not sexy enough, neither she looks evil to play Cercei.
The kids are great and Arya is super cute.
And,yes,John looks like emo kid.:)

vucina
04-28-2011, 01:34 PM
I don't know whether you've read the books, but it is very, very far from the lord of the rings. The porn was included in the books, in fact - much more so. It's a very cruel, yet realistic world Martin has described, sex and blood are a part of it.
I haven't read them. But, while the map and the storyline (so far) look like a slightly changed English and European history, it has dragons and monsters in it. In that way, it reminds me of LOTR. Of course, Sean Bean helps.
About the porn, I know it has to be realistic but come on, the guy was doggying his twin sister.
The viewer's guide is excellent. http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/map/
They could make a great game out of this.

star
04-28-2011, 02:03 PM
I don't know whether you've read the books, but it is very, very far from the lord of the rings. The porn was included in the books, in fact - much more so. It's a very cruel, yet realistic world Martin has described, sex and blood are a part of it.

I watched the first installment.

Really can't agree with you on the "realistic world" description.

Or Levy
04-28-2011, 02:25 PM
I wasn't clear. Realistic in terms of the times the series is suppose to be based in - only royal blood mattered, women are treated as property, children are wedded-off for power, bastards do not inherit, women do not inherit, people are sometimes helpless to change their destiny. And as far as how Martin handles his character - lets just say that it isn't Harry Potter nor it is the lord of the rings, a lot less innocent, the characters are much more complex, don't know if you can see it on the show, but it is very clear in the books.

As for the incest, yes - the queen is sleeping with her twin brother. In the books, their relationship is at the heart of the plot (at least in season 1). It's destructive and all consuming - and a lot more than just the sex. Hopefully they can address it properly on the show, as well.

The magical and supernatural is a very small part of ASOISF (a song of ice and fire, the head title for the entire series)

EKSTREMISTA
04-28-2011, 03:46 PM
American woman.:D

In one hour-long program there were at least two rapes, twenty women naked from the top up (several completely naked), one blatant sex scene and several partially obscured scenes.
I sat on the couch next to my husband with my face burning (which has never happened to me). He said the show was pornographic and confusing. He never read the books.

The books are not for children, and on HBO I expected sex, violence and swearing. But the level they took it to, detracted from the plot of the story.
Several of my friends that I asked to watch this texted me stating how confused they are over the shifting scenes, and large amount of cast members that were barely introduced.
Other shows that I have watched and loved on HBO did not have this large amount of sex.
Even Sex and the City.
I will watch one more episode but if it was anything like last night's then I give up!

Aenea
04-28-2011, 03:49 PM
I have read all books that have come out so far from the franchise and I have watched 2 episodes that have come out of the HBO series.

I agree with the OP that HBO have done a great work with the series. They have come as close to the books as possible for a TV show and the casting and directing are fantastic. I think they have found the right actors for all characters.

I don’t agree with the poster who said that the actress who plays Catelyn is old and ugly. Man, they are living in a cruel world in times without cosmetic which preserves youthful look, plastic surgery, special cosmetics facial masks etc. She has given birth to 5 children how do you want her to look? She isn’t ugly she has the look and dignity that is expected from Catelyn. For me the actress is good to play that role. And about Cersei – she doesn’t need to look evil she have to be evil. And she is. How much sexy do you want her to look? The actress is attractive enough without being vulgar, they could have cast a model but would she be capable of good acting as well? I doubt it.
As for the incest – it has been natural for Egyptian, Roman and many other cultures. Why is anyone wondering about this in the movie? Besides incest has always been a centuries long norm in the home of Targaryens, too.

Jon Snow is all right. Yeah, sometimes he looks lost but this is how he looked in the book, too. And what are you expecting from a boy, 17-18 years old, being the lord’s bastard.

I like the series very much and I think HBO should pick it up for 2nd season.

EKSTREMISTA
04-28-2011, 05:17 PM
They already did.

Pirata.
04-28-2011, 05:32 PM
I love it, fascinating show, I'm hooked after just two episodes. Debating whether to start reading the books now or wait until the end of the season. I don't want to be spoiled or starting looking for mistakes and omissions in the adaptations, but I've heard nothing but good things about the series.

The actress playing Arya is fantastic.

Agreed, I think she's become my favourite character so far (meanwhile, I want to strangle Sansa :mad:)

british_player
04-28-2011, 09:40 PM
its the same in the books, I loved Arya and hated Sansa....

I think its done a great job of portraying the series pretty darn well...its not like the book wasn't raunchy and sex filled either.....

I LOVE the wolves!

british_player
04-29-2011, 02:29 AM
You'll love me for this.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii165/angelfromanotherpin/tslapj.gif

solowyn
04-29-2011, 07:06 PM
You'll love me for this.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii165/angelfromanotherpin/tslapj.gif
<3
The prince is insufferable, great choice of actor there.

I need a direwolf :awww:

Pirata.
05-01-2011, 06:41 AM
You'll love me for this.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii165/angelfromanotherpin/tslapj.gif

<3
The prince is insufferable, great choice of actor there.

I need a direwolf :awww:

This gif :worship: Joffrey is such a whiny little twat :lol:

I want a direwolf too :awww:

british_player
05-01-2011, 06:52 AM
This gif :worship: Joffrey is such a whiny little twat :lol:

I want a direwolf too :awww:

<3
The prince is insufferable, great choice of actor there.

I need a direwolf :awww:

I want a direwolf too.

:scratch:

I wonder where I can find one.

I don't know how to make .gif's

Ben.
05-01-2011, 09:39 AM
I like the way they are using the growth of the direwolves to represent the passage of time from episode to episode.

vucina
06-11-2011, 01:36 AM
This show is legendary.


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buddyholly
06-11-2011, 12:18 PM
This show is legendary.


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Legendary is hardly the proper word for a 2011 TV show. Only time produces legends.

And anyway, the clip you show of Dinklage murdering the English language will only become legendary by its triteness and appeal to a schoolboy sense of talking dirty.

zoltan83
06-11-2011, 07:14 PM
I'm watching it and I enjoy it :D

Har-Tru
06-11-2011, 08:24 PM
Tuned in last week. While it will not accompany The Sopranos, The Wire and Six Feet Under in the HBO pantheon, it's a very well-rounded and entertaining show.

Har-Tru
06-11-2011, 08:28 PM
This show is legendary.


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You could have chosen two or three better excerpts from that same scene alone.

jmjhb
06-11-2011, 10:03 PM
It's been improving with every episode, HBO with yet another winner.

It does amuse me though that the show is basically a who's who of British actors.

tennisfan856
06-11-2011, 10:29 PM
I've been dreading tomorrow's episode for weeks now.

Garson007
06-12-2011, 12:44 AM
Sansa is the worst actor of the lot. She lacks such conviction. Then again the female teen actors that portray the "helpless damsel" characters in a variety of shows are beyond terrible. I'm just dreading her role in the future.

Anyhow, I find the show highly entertaining. What's with the high amount of nudity though? It's not tasteful; I don't get it. If it doesn't help along plot it shouldn't be in it, simple.

I wonder if the series will catch up before the final book is written, which would be disastrous. My guess is they'd have to develop a single book into multiple seasons.

Ivanatis
06-12-2011, 01:15 AM
I haven't watched it so far, but I will maybe watch this episode and the next one, as I saw :worship:Sibel Kekilli:worship: is in it. Her character's name is Shae. Would be great if somebody who watches it tonight could tell me how big her role is, so I know if it's worth downloading.:)

tennisfan856
06-12-2011, 01:53 AM
Honestly, I just pray that hbo will at least cover up until book 3. A feast for crows can be ignored for all i care.

Har-Tru
06-12-2011, 09:26 AM
Sansa is the worst actor of the lot. She lacks such conviction. Then again the female teen actors that portray the "helpless damsel" characters in a variety of shows are beyond terrible. I'm just dreading her role in the future.

Anyhow, I find the show highly entertaining. What's with the high amount of nudity though? It's not tastefu]; I don't get it. If it doesn't help along plot it shouldn't be in it, simple.

I wonder if the series will catch up before the final book is written, which would be disastrous. My guess is they'd have to develop a single book into multiple seasons.

I'm with you. But I suspect it's not getting any better, see below...

I haven't watched it so far, but I will maybe watch this episode and the next one, as I saw :worship:Sibel Kekilli:worship: is in it. Her character's name is Shae. Would be great if somebody who watches it tonight could tell me how big her role is, so I know if it's worth downloading.:)

OMG :tape:

For those of you who don't know her, she's a Turkish-German actress who rose to prominence after the film Gegen die Wand. It was later revealed though that she had previous experience as a porn actress.

Ben.
06-12-2011, 11:13 AM
Sansa is the worst actor of the lot. She lacks such conviction. Then again the female teen actors that portray the "helpless damsel" characters in a variety of shows are beyond terrible. I'm just dreading her role in the future.

Anyhow, I find the show highly entertaining. What's with the high amount of nudity though? It's not tasteful; I don't get it. If it doesn't help along plot it shouldn't be in it, simple.

I wonder if the series will catch up before the final book is written, which would be disastrous. My guess is they'd have to develop a single book into multiple seasons.

I agree that the nudity is excessive at times, particularly during Aiden Gillen's monologue a couple of weeks ago, when the two whores were going at it. I understand that the novels are full of it though, moreso than the series, plus it is HBO.

Also have to agree with Har-Tru that as good as it is, it isn't going to join The Wire, Deadwood, Six Feet Under or The Sopranos.

Ivanatis
06-12-2011, 01:43 PM
I'm with you. But I suspect it's not getting any better, see below...



OMG :tape:

For those of you who don't know her, she's a Turkish-German actress who rose to prominence after the film Gegen die Wand. It was later revealed though that she had previous experience as a porn actress.

revealed by the gutter press btw., but who seriously gives a fock apart from some prudes, who maybe refuse to watch her films because of that, well their loss cos anybody who has seen said Gegen die Wand (Head-On) or her more recent film Die Fremde (When We Leave) won't be able to deny that she's currently the best German actress under 35 out there, if not the best from all age groups:dance:

btw. she's had a nosejob too, that evil bitch:tape:

tennisfan856
06-13-2011, 04:15 PM
I think they executed (har har) the scene I was dreading of perfectly. I'm going to miss Sean Bean, the son of a bitch dies in everything he does like it's written in his contract.

Another great episode, but they did a budget cop-out by skipping over a battle. At least show Tyrion lop off one guy's head lol.

vucina
06-13-2011, 08:40 PM
revealed by the gutter press btw., but who seriously gives a fock apart from some prudes, who maybe refuse to watch her films because of that, well their loss cos anybody who has seen said Gegen die Wand (Head-On) or her more recent film Die Fremde (When We Leave) won't be able to deny that she's currently the best German actress under 35 out there, if not the best from all age groups:dance:

btw. she's had a nosejob too, that evil bitch:tape:

She was terrible, but since she's done porn I'll give her a pass.
Also, the lack of battle scenes and Daenerys getting her bits out is a bit disappointing, but other than that, another awesome episode.

Smoke944
06-14-2011, 12:06 AM
I think they executed (har har) the scene I was dreading of perfectly. I'm going to miss Sean Bean, the son of a bitch dies in everything he does like it's written in his contract.

Another great episode, but they did a budget cop-out by skipping over a battle. At least show Tyrion lop off one guy's head lol.

Well, there really isn't that much written about that battle in the book, I mean they didn't leave out much of anything :shrug:

Garson007
06-14-2011, 11:14 AM
So... unfair. :<

Ben.
06-15-2011, 10:58 PM
That was a pretty devestating climax made all the worse because Ned went ahead and betrayed himself. I was hoping Arya was somehow going to take Joffrey out :lol:

Damn you HBO, last year it was Creighton on Treme and now it's Ned. I guess Nucky had better watch out.

Pirata.
06-15-2011, 11:05 PM
Can't wait until Joffrey dies :o


I think they executed (har har) the scene I was dreading of perfectly. I'm going to miss Sean Bean, the son of a bitch dies in everything he does like it's written in his contract.

:haha: So true. I think the only movie I can think of in recent memory he hasn't died in is the Percy Jackson movies, but only because he's an immortal god in those.

tennisfan856
06-15-2011, 11:09 PM
Well, there really isn't that much written about that battle in the book, I mean they didn't leave out much of anything :shrug:

I do agree with you, but the way Tyrion commanded the vanguard and was successful in doing so set up his actions in the 2nd book. Thankfully, Martin will be writing that specific episode next season.

Garson007
06-16-2011, 03:01 AM
Can't wait until Joffrey dies :o
Easily the most hated character.

Har-Tru
06-16-2011, 01:48 PM
I thought Ned Stark's death was pretty bumming... to put it bluntly, he died without honour (he confessed crimes he didn't commit) and looking like a fool for believing they were going to let him walk.

Garson007
06-16-2011, 02:19 PM
I thought Ned Stark's death was pretty bumming... to put it bluntly, he died without honour (he confessed crimes he didn't commit) and looking like a fool for believing they were going to let him walk.
But he did save his daughters' lives. Then again, he probably could have put popular opinion against the new king. We'll never know, but what I know from the books is that this is a pivotal moment in the series. It's the catalyst for everything that will happen.

Pirata.
06-16-2011, 02:59 PM
Easily the most hated character.

Yep. Absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

EKSTREMISTA
06-24-2011, 09:15 AM
Hitler finds out about Ned Stark in Game of Thrones


www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kLSYTHQbm4

Thanos
06-27-2011, 10:10 AM
well i was recommended to watch this series and now i'm up to date. i found the show overall quite average, and the characters uninteresting except for the imp and arya. it has great moments (visery getting hot gold melted on his face) but not enough to make a solid series. as for sean bean character being decapitated well he got what he deserved. he decapitated some poor boy just because he saw the white walkers so i felt no compassion for him whatsoever.

Smoke944
06-28-2011, 01:17 AM
well i was recommended to watch this series and now i'm up to date. i found the show overall quite average, and the characters uninteresting except for the imp and arya. it has great moments (visery getting hot gold melted on his face) but not enough to make a solid series. as for sean bean character being decapitated well he got what he deserved. he decapitated some poor boy just because he saw the white walkers so i felt no compassion for him whatsoever.

for deserting, you mean ;)

zlaja777
06-28-2011, 11:09 PM
Emilia Clarke looks more and more stunning with every episode.

OddJob
06-29-2011, 03:57 PM
Love the series! I've actually started reading the books because of the show. This way I won't have to wait till next season.

Pirata.
04-02-2012, 05:55 AM
Awesome premiere tonight :worship:

Ros is easily the most useless addition to the show though. I guess straight men and gay women (and bisexuals :)) probably love it, but I am not a fan of the actress or the character.

tripwires
04-02-2012, 06:50 AM
Season 2's started? :hearts:

I generally despise fantasy but I love this show. :hearts:

Pirata.
04-02-2012, 06:54 AM
It started last night :D

Lots of new characters introduced, a little confusing for someone who hasn't read the books, but I just finished the third, so I knew all the newbies.

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Ben.
04-02-2012, 10:35 AM
Will be watching it later. Mad Men and Game of Thrones back on TV :hearts:

Ben.
04-03-2012, 10:55 AM
Lots of table setting but it's just good to be back in the show's world. We check in with all the characters and meet a few new ones, finally seeing the much discussed Stannis Baratheon. I must say, I thought Baelish was dead ther for a sec, thankfully not.

Pirata.
04-09-2012, 06:48 PM
Great episode last night, could've done without the Ros scene :o and Theon :o

The actress who plays Arya is fantastic.

Ben.
04-09-2012, 07:09 PM
Cersei realising that Joffrey is even more bat shit insane than she is :o

Notice the quick shot of Baelish wiping the whore's mouth before sending her off the please the disgruntled patron? That's attention to detail :lol:

jmjhb
04-11-2012, 12:33 AM
Casting has again been excellent, but I'm not too sure on Stannis personally. Melisandre though is perfect.

GRRM apparently directed the Blackwater episode (which also took up most of the season's budget :lol:) so that should be amazing.

Something which happens next season (if you've read book 3, you'll know what I mean) has the potential to be one of the great TV scenes if they do it right, which I'm sure they will.

solowyn
04-11-2012, 06:32 AM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m29ohmePTZ1qdyfmao1_500.jpg

<3

Ben.
04-23-2012, 10:19 PM
jmjhb, your post may or may not be spoilery, I saw something and looked away quickly :lol: Can you not post spoilers please :)

Cute little nipper at the end of last night's eppy :eek::confused::explode:

tripwires
04-24-2012, 01:08 AM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m29ohmePTZ1qdyfmao1_500.jpg

<3

:hearts:

jmjhb, your post may or may not be spoilery, I saw something and looked away quickly :lol: Can you not post spoilers please :)

Cute little nipper at the end of last night's eppy :eek::confused::explode:

By 'cute' surely you meant fucking gross and creepy?!

Joffrey is such a sadistic little shit. I can't wait till he dies.

Sean.
04-24-2012, 01:12 AM
^ I've read the books so I don't mind, but for the sake of other's you should add a spoiler warning to your post. ;)

Pirata.
04-24-2012, 03:47 AM
I don't think I know anyone who cares about spoiler warnings regarding Joffrey's fate. He's so hated, the first question people ask when I introduce them to the show is "Joffrey dies soon, right?" :lol:

Ben.
04-24-2012, 11:32 AM
I ask nicely for no spoilers and you spoil it for me straight away :mad: Not cool!

My favourite character Joffrey dies :sobbing: He's just misunderstood!

tripwires
04-24-2012, 11:47 AM
I ask nicely for no spoilers and you spoil it for me straight away :mad: Not cool!

My favourite character Joffrey dies :sobbing: He's just misunderstood!

How is he your favourite character? :speakles: Surely you must be joking. :lol:

Lembras
04-24-2012, 12:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1xxqPE4I4g

Will be a great addition to the cast. So far the series has been superb, everything has been perfectly done. The Stark's continue to be the worse part of the series, i'm looking forward seeing how the red wedding will be handled. Gruesome i hope.

Sean.
04-24-2012, 01:10 PM
Joffrey as a character is fantastic, because he's such an evil little shit! The actor plays him really well.

tripwires
04-24-2012, 03:06 PM
No spoilers please. :sobbing:

Pirata.
04-24-2012, 04:37 PM
:lol:

Surprised HBO didn't submit Jack Gleeson for a supporting actor nomination at the Emmys, but submitted Kit Harrington who plays Jon Snow. No offense to Kit, but Jack's portrayal of Joffrey inspires so much hatred in people, it's absurd, and it's insane he didn't get chosen.

Speaking of Joffrey, that horrible, sadistic scene with the whores :scared:

Lembras
04-25-2012, 09:49 AM
Gleeson has been average in the role. I look forward to seeing if Jon Snow survives his stabbing once the next book is finally released to the general public.

tripwires
04-25-2012, 10:15 AM
Seriously can you guys post spoilers in white text? It's annoying to read potential future plot points for people who hate spoilers and haven't (and don't intend to) read the books.

Lembras
04-25-2012, 10:24 AM
If it's annoying to read, don't read it. Now is that really a difficult concept to grasp? I want to discuss the series with those who have actually bothered to read the books. The real fans.

Ben.
04-25-2012, 11:02 AM
How is he your favourite character? :speakles: Surely you must be joking. :lol:

:lol: Yes, I jest. It's all about Tyrion.


Lembras, if it's too difficult for you not to be a prick, fuck off.

If you want to discuss the novels, open another thread.

Lembras
04-25-2012, 11:22 AM
Charles Dance does a splendid job as Tywin. Best character in the series. I cannot stand Tyrion. People with physical problems annoy the fuck out of me.

@ The above. Don't tell me what to do, you respect me. If i want to discuss the novels here with the real fans, i will do so. I really hope Stannis fails to take back the north from the Boltons. The Boltons are my favorite house in the series.

tripwires
04-25-2012, 12:15 PM
You're clearly a troll but - the thread is called HBO Game of Thrones, i.e. it's dedicated to the TV show. If that's too hard for you to grasp...

...oh wait, doesn't really matter, you'll be banned soon enough. :wavey:

:lol: Yes, I jest. It's all about Tyrion.


Lembras, if it's too difficult for you not to be a prick, fuck off.

If you want to discuss the novels, open another thread.

I love Tyrion too. He gets the best lines. :hearts:

:lol:

Surprised HBO didn't submit Jack Gleeson for a supporting actor nomination at the Emmys, but submitted Kit Harrington who plays Jon Snow. No offense to Kit, but Jack's portrayal of Joffrey inspires so much hatred in people, it's absurd, and it's insane he didn't get chosen.

Speaking of Joffrey, that horrible, sadistic scene with the whores :scared:

Jon Snow barely made an impact apart from his looks. That's an odd choice.

Yeah that scene with the whores - :speakles: :facepalm: It was so sick.

Pirata.
04-25-2012, 05:45 PM
I cannot stand Tyrion. People with physical problems annoy the fuck out of me.

Says an awful lot about you as a person that you would be annoyed by physical disabilities beyond a person's control.

solowyn
04-25-2012, 05:46 PM
Jon Snow barely made an impact apart from his looks. That's an odd choice.
They are very nice looks :drool:

Ben.
05-29-2012, 09:54 AM
Great episode this week. I always like it when a show changes up its structure and focusing on one location for the whole episode was a very good decision. I think the problem with this season, compared to the first, is that we have been spending time with some characters more out of obligation than necessity, so it was good to tighten the focus and feel the full weight of the events.

tripwires
05-29-2012, 01:30 PM
The battle sequence was fantastic.

I hope Tyrion lives. :sobbing: It'd be an utter injustice if he died and that pansy Joffrey continued to live.

Ben.
05-29-2012, 03:16 PM
I know :scared:

If he dies, the next actor playing the hand of the king can start sending out CVs around season three episode nine :lol:

Thanos
05-29-2012, 03:20 PM
i don't think he will die considering he only got cut in the face. he will have a scar for the rest of the series. i still think that jaime will be the first lannister to die and lady stark the first from the starks.

tennizen
05-29-2012, 03:32 PM
Tempted to post spoilers. :D

tennizen
05-29-2012, 03:35 PM
Casting has again been excellent, but I'm not too sure on Stannis personally. Melisandre though is perfect.

GRRM apparently directed the Blackwater episode (which also took up most of the season's budget :lol:) so that should be amazing.

Something which happens next season (if you've read book 3, you'll know what I mean) has the potential to be one of the great TV scenes if they do it right, which I'm sure they will.

Stannis is the biggest disappointment in terms of casting. Davos and Melisandre are great though.

Thanos
05-29-2012, 03:36 PM
you said yourself that the books are slightly different than the series :shrug:.

tennizen
05-29-2012, 04:08 PM
Not different enough that they'll mess with the order of the Lannister/Stark deaths.

vucina
05-29-2012, 07:36 PM
Stannis is the biggest disappointment in terms of casting. Davos and Melisandre are great though.

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MaxPower
05-29-2012, 09:35 PM
Only Stannis and Tywin Lannister have the commanding aura of bad-assery you expect from men in their position. Good casting choices. The actors make it believable they could lead armies in battle, something you can't say for the majority of "kings" and "queens" in the series.

Season 2 has been suffering a little from budget constraints (I think) but the latest episode was great. It's very expensive to do episodes like #9 and some previous episodes obviously paid for it.

Just look at how many long and drawn out conversation-scenes there are in S2 just for some minor detail with so many important and bigger things going on somewhere else. The filler-material was less obvious in S1.


The success of season1 probably wasn't helping with keeping the salaries down either. Shouldn't complain really because the quality is still top notch for TV but it was so great in S1 you start to compare it to real movies and have the same expectations. I sort of wish they had a few more millions to put into every episode now when the real action has begun

Mjau!
05-29-2012, 09:48 PM
I've seen a couple of episodes of this series on and off. They seem to be using a lot of sex and female nudity to attract male viewers and cover for the fact that the storyline isn't particularly interesting. Very cheap. :no:

Pirata.
05-30-2012, 02:03 AM
The storyline is VERY interesting, but HBO seems to think that adding scenes of female nudity to scenes where male character talk (like wtf was that scene between Bronn and the Hound last night :stupid:) is necessary when it's not.

Great scene on Sunday. Wish GRRM could write all the episodes, but if he did, we'd never get the next two books :o

tripwires
05-30-2012, 04:16 AM
Tempted to post spoilers. :D

No. :(

I've seen a couple of episodes of this series on and off. They seem to be using a lot of sex and female nudity to attract male viewers and cover for the fact that the storyline isn't particularly interesting. Very cheap. :no:

Not saying/implying it's right/wrong/whatever but the nudity in this show is quite standard-issue for HBO. It's actually been toned down in season 2 compared to season 1. I suppose if you're looking for a "clean" show, you wouldn't be watching a HBO show. It's sort of like going to Las Vegas and complaining about the strippers.

Ben.
05-30-2012, 06:00 PM
Sadly, the nudity is a selling point for HBO. Sometimes it is over the top but at least it is not at the level of their competitors Starz and Showtime.

Game of Thrones hasn't been too bad though. There was one scene of pure exposition with Littlefinger in which Roz and another whore pleasured eachother while he spoke. There really hasn't been anything else as bad as that. It's also featured some male nudity.

From what I've heard, sex and nudity are also prevalent in the novels.

tennisfan856
06-01-2012, 03:25 AM
I rewatched season 1 about a week ago, and the gap in quality between that and season 2 is pretty wide.

I just think they did a messy job of unveiling the plot at the beginning of the season, and then filling the later episodes with unnecessary crap (sex scenes, improvised scenes). There was an aura to Season 1 where the writers really paid attention to detail about everything, while they really started drifting away in this one.

Lena Headey, while hot, is a crappy actress. Her lack of range kind of gets annoying when you are begging her to show more fire/emotion.

Although Stannis will always be my epic choice, I can see where the audience has a hard time cheering for him when he disappears for 4 episodes after Renly's death.

Pirata.
06-04-2012, 03:25 AM
Finale tonight was :o

I was looking forward to the House of the Undying scene more than anything else this season and my disappointment is off the charts.

Robb yelling at Cat and getting married under the blessings of the Seven was :stupid: and I couldn't really tell what the deal with Qhorin and Jon was because of how vague the scene between them in episode 8 (I think) was. The Arya, Tyrion and Theon stuff was good, other than that, I feel kind of underwhelmed.

MaxPower
06-04-2012, 08:18 AM
I'm happy I haven't read the books because that gives no expectations. Last episode was alright. A bit too many stories and too little time but it did a fair job. I agree the House of the Undying thing was anti-climatic, especially when they hyped it up so much.

They must consider 12 or even 20 episodes a season. Not gonna happen for $$$-reasons but one can wish. Would do wonders for the pacing and character development.

Thanos
06-04-2012, 08:43 AM
I'm happy I haven't read the books because that gives no expectations. Last episode was alright. A bit too many stories and too little time but it did a fair job. I agree the House of the Undying thing was anti-climatic, especially when they hyped it up so much.

They must consider 12 or even 20 episodes a season. Not gonna happen for $$$-reasons but one can wish. Would do wonders for the pacing and character development.

same, i'm glad that daenery was barely featured in the finale. i feared that the house of undying crap would go on forever. it was overall much better than season one finale and the last five minutes were erection inducing. i think 10 episodes are fine when they start killing off the boring useless characters.

Pirata.
06-04-2012, 09:31 AM
i think 10 episodes are fine when they start killing off the boring useless characters.

They introduce more boring, useless characters in the fourth book :hysteric:

Minus Arianne Martell, my queen :armed:

Sean.
06-04-2012, 11:02 AM
Bad last episode. :o

tennisfan856
06-04-2012, 04:54 PM
Personally, I loved it except for how they handled Winterfell's razing and Jon's fight with Quorin. Stannis was awesome.

The house of the undying would've been really spoilery if they adapted it right out of the book. They would've also had to cast someone for Rhaegar. Aesthetically, I really loved the snow in the iron throne and felt bad for Dany when she knew it was all a trick because she'll never be able to have children.

Kinda pissed they killed off dorreah though, what a hottie.

tealeaves
06-05-2012, 11:52 PM
The last episode was pretty lame IMHO, so many scenes happened out of nowhere and were left unexplained :o I was so confused

EnriqueIG8
06-06-2012, 12:35 AM
Season finale was meh, the ending was pretty promising though.


You know you've made it as a show when the Simpsons did this as a hommage;


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tripwires
06-06-2012, 01:27 AM
Why did Jon kill the other guy?

I was a huge Dany fan at the end of season 1, then got bored with her in season 2, and am now back on the bandwagon after seeing how awesome she was with the dragons and pretty much during the entire sequence at the house of the undying. Also...my poor Tyrion. :awww: Thank goodness he's alive but what a fucked up, ungrateful family he has.

I think this show would benefit from having 2 more episodes too. Things feel a bit rushed as they stand.

Ben.
06-06-2012, 10:09 AM
Game of Thrones would definitely benefit from being 12 or 13 episodes long, like most cable dramas are. I guess the budget wont stretch that far.

Surprised everyone in here disliked the finale though. Much like season one, the climax of the season came in episode 9. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Pirata.
06-06-2012, 09:07 PM
Why did Jon kill the other guy?

Because he wanted the wildlings to think Jon was a traitor to the Night's Watch so he could infiltrate their camp. Jon kills him to prove that he is no longer loyal to the Night's Watch in the hopes that the wildlings will believe his betrayal and take him in and he can become a spy.


They explain it so much better in the books :o

Allez
06-06-2012, 10:17 PM
Season 1 > Season 2. Gratuitous female nudity is beyond ridiculous. So transparent and so annoying :o Final episode was OK. I guess if you've read the books you can't help but be underwhelmed. Only Arya , Tyrion and Stannis stood out his season. I'm a huge fan of Danny's but her season 2 was average at best. Love the dragons though...

jmjhb
06-06-2012, 10:24 PM
Book 3 will probably be done in 16-20 episodes, I've heard they're splitting it into two seasons.

Thanos
06-07-2012, 01:25 AM
Game of Thrones would definitely benefit from being 12 or 13 episodes long, like most cable dramas are. I guess the budget wont stretch that far.

Surprised everyone in here disliked the finale though. Much like season one, the climax of the season came in episode 9. Maybe that has something to do with it.

i wasn't one of them. i loved the finale and overall season 2 was much better than season 1 were everything was spoon fed to the viewer.

tripwires
06-07-2012, 09:54 AM
Because he wanted the wildlings to think Jon was a traitor to the Night's Watch so he could infiltrate their camp. Jon kills him to prove that he is no longer loyal to the Night's Watch in the hopes that the wildlings will believe his betrayal and take him in and he can become a spy.


They explain it so much better in the books :o

Thanks. :yeah: What's the exact threat that the Wildlings pose anyway? They just seem like a bunch of nomads with weapons.

Season 1 > Season 2. Gratuitous female nudity is beyond ridiculous. So transparent and so annoying :o Final episode was OK. I guess if you've read the books you can't help but be underwhelmed. Only Arya , Tyrion and Stannis stood out his season. I'm a huge fan of Danny's but her season 2 was average at best. Love the dragons though...

I thought the nudity was way more gratuitous in season 1. Agree re. Dany though. I'm glad she finally did something in the last episode after spending the whole season whining and posturing and being annoying.

mike s.
06-08-2012, 12:08 AM
I love this series. The books are amazing, and the tv show has been almost as good.

I'm in the camp that Season 2 is better than Season 1. The showrunners stuck to the main story but also found the confidence to make changes when necessary to make better television and the story more accessible to non-readers. Many of the changes were really good like Arya/Tywin for example. Then again, I've never been one to care about changes to source material as long as the major storylines aren't altered. It makes it more interesting to me in some ways.

I think Alfie Allen, Sophie Turner, Peter Dinklage, and Lena Headey were the real standouts this season but everyone was great. Can't wait for Season 3, it will be crazy.

EnriqueIG8
06-08-2012, 01:10 AM
Alfie Allen really gave Theon some soul this season. Definately one of the best performances in season 2 in my opinion.

Hated him when he took over Winferfell but the little brother of Lily Allen gave me my sympathy for Theon back.



How awesome was this?


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tripwires
06-08-2012, 01:31 AM
Theon is Lily Allen's brother? :speakles:

That speech was great...especially the completely unexpected club on the head. :haha:

EnriqueIG8
06-08-2012, 02:48 AM
Theon is Lily Allen's brother? :speakles:

That speech was great...especially the completely unexpected club on the head. :haha:

She even wrote this song about him in 2007, about him being lazy and useless.


And watch him now, might as well snatch an Emmy for his performance as Theon :lol:


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mike s.
06-08-2012, 03:22 AM
Yes, that speech and knock out was awesome and hilarious.

It would be awesome if Alfie got nominated for an Emmy because he really deserves it, if I had to choose it was probably my favorite performance from this past season. That scene between Theon and Luwin in the finale was both heartbreaking and hilarious at the same time with the horn blower. However, I think a repeat for Peter Dinklage is probably the only acting award the show will get.

tripwires
06-08-2012, 03:47 AM
She even wrote this song about him in 2007, about him being lazy and useless.


Omg that's so freaking cute. :hearts: This made my day. :D

Yes, that speech and knock out was awesome and hilarious.

It would be awesome if Alfie got nominated for an Emmy because he really deserves it, if I had to choose it was probably my favorite performance from this past season. That scene between Theon and Luwin in the finale was both heartbreaking and hilarious at the same time with the horn blower. However, I think a repeat for Peter Dinklage is probably the only acting award the show will get.

I agree - the Theon/Luwin scene was fabulous. I spent the whole season hating Theon and that was the first time he came across as sympathetic. Peter Dinklage is awesome; Tyrion is my favourite character by a mile. He steals every scene he's in for me, aided, no doubt, by his character's hilarious lines.

Ben.
06-08-2012, 11:11 AM
Not much chance for anyone but Dinklage in supporting actor as the category is pretty stacked. I doubt he will win again though, as this year Aaron Paul will be eligible again.

The size of the cast works against them when it comes to awards sadly. It's like The Wire, it had brilliant performances across the board, yet no one was ever nominated.

Smoke944
06-09-2012, 06:24 AM
Omg that's so freaking cute. :hearts: This made my day. :D



I agree. Makes me wish I had a sister, or at the very least wasn't an only child :lol:

Corey Feldman
06-09-2012, 11:08 AM
No coz its a load of shite

Allez
06-09-2012, 06:49 PM
Yeah Alfie was great as well though Theon Greyjoy is such a sex crazed little twat with a monster inferiority complex :haha:

Pirata.
06-09-2012, 08:05 PM
Yeah Alfie was great as well though Theon Greyjoy is such a sex crazed little twat with a monster inferiority complex :haha:

massive daddy issues

superslam77
06-10-2012, 09:41 PM
joffrey and cercei still alive :banghead:

Pirata.
06-18-2012, 01:20 AM
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Good stuff :lol:

Allez
06-21-2012, 07:18 AM
H-oZ4Bug_zA

Good stuff :lol:

:haha: Nice one. Robert :facepalm:

Nathaliia
06-21-2012, 08:58 AM
haha poor theon, getting bullied by his sister in real life too

cocrcici
06-22-2012, 12:06 AM
http://youtu.be/qYNeT2nzEgA


:drool:

EnriqueIG8
06-27-2012, 10:45 PM
best scene of the season;

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give Alfie an Emmy already.

sexybeast
07-05-2012, 03:43 AM
She even wrote this song about him in 2007, about him being lazy and useless.


And watch him now, might as well snatch an Emmy for his performance as Theon :lol:


Sr2Grfi3lFg&ob=av2n

:lol: Lilly should have played Asha/Yara, she sure as hell would do a better job than that actress they picked, for everyone who read the books you may know how much better, more erotic and humiliating the sister/brother moments were in the book. Also Asha is supposed to be good looking and black haired.

If Alfie Allen doesnt win his emmy this year he should get a second chanse when they get on to Theons "next act" so to speak, we havent seen anything like it on television before....

Signs of great (or horrible) things to come (for those who read the book)....

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Kiedis
07-06-2012, 08:03 PM
Spoiler

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sexybeast
07-14-2012, 01:07 AM
New cast for season 3:

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Thanos
07-14-2012, 05:29 AM
New cast for season 3:

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i hate all the new castmembers already after seeing this video.

leng jai
07-14-2012, 01:36 PM
Arya :hearts:

Also...

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4047139_700b.jpg

sexybeast
07-14-2012, 10:11 PM
i hate all the new castmembers already after seeing this video.

I want to see Cillian Murphy as Ramsey, I dont care if that takes a quarter of the budget next season because that is all I need.

Sunset of Age
07-20-2012, 01:17 AM
Arya :hearts:

Also...

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4047139_700b.jpg

:lol: :worship:

Yeah, I'm watching too. On DVD. ;)
Still missing the lovely Mr. Sean Bean though. Man... what a man. :drool: :sad:

leng jai
07-20-2012, 02:21 AM
:lol: :worship:

Yeah, I'm watching too. On DVD. ;)
Still missing the lovely Mr. Sean Bean though. Man... what a man. :drool: :sad:

Your avatar makes me swoon every time :hearts:

Sunset of Age
07-20-2012, 02:54 AM
Your avatar makes me swoon every time :hearts:

Arya, yeah. A fantastic tomboy. Like me

:p

sexybeast
08-23-2012, 03:10 PM
Watch out guys, Ramsay Bolton is coming for you...

Sorry Joffrey, evil got a new face next season:

http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/images/cache/game-of-thrones/Misc/Casting/Ramsay%20Snow/Iwan%20Rheon%20as%20Ramsay_FULL.jpg

Ben.
08-23-2012, 03:14 PM
I read Ciaran Hinds joined the cast as Mance Rayder :worship:

seattletennisguy
08-24-2012, 04:52 PM
I just finished the 1st season. And something that confuses me. When did Bramm's father realize he'd pushed off that window ledge? The boy could never remember himself, so how did the father or mother come to know of it?

Ben.
08-24-2012, 05:53 PM
It's been a while but isn't the first tip off the knife that the would be assassin uses?

Then, when Ned finds out about Robert's bastards and realises he was not the father of Cercei's children and that Jamie is, he puts two and two together.

seattletennisguy
08-24-2012, 07:07 PM
It's been a while but isn't the first tip off the knife that the would be assassin uses?

Then, when Ned finds out about Robert's bastards and realises he was not the father of Cercei's children and that Jamie is, he puts two and two together.

Oh, I must've missed that knife-tip bit. And, was he the only one who knows about Jamie and his sister? Or, did he share that information with his wife?

I can't wait to dig into Season 2.

Ben.
08-24-2012, 08:33 PM
Oh, I must've missed that knife-tip bit. And, was he the only one who knows about Jamie and his sister? Or, did he share that information with his wife?

I can't wait to dig into Season 2.

The assassin used a knife that Ned believed belonged to Tyrion. I'm having trouble remembering the specifics of it though.

She knows, though again, I can't remember exactly how.

Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks for you.

jmjhb
08-26-2012, 11:30 PM
I read Ciaran Hinds joined the cast as Mance Rayder :worship:

Excellent casting once again. I prefer him over Dominic West, who reportedly rejected the role as it would have meant he'd have been away from his family for too long.

jmjhb
08-26-2012, 11:35 PM
Oh, I must've missed that knife-tip bit. And, was he the only one who knows about Jamie and his sister? Or, did he share that information with his wife?

I can't wait to dig into Season 2.

The previous Hand (Jon) along with Stannis knew.

Castafiore
08-27-2012, 12:06 PM
I just finished the 1st season. And something that confuses me. When did Bramm's father realize he'd pushed off that window ledge? The boy could never remember himself, so how did the father or mother come to know of it?
This may contain spoilers for those who haven't seen/read the series.



I'm reading the books (can't watch the tv series). The boy was a fantastic climber so the first suspicion of his mother was the fall itself. She figured that there's no way her son would have fallen by accident. Later, the knife confirmed the suspicion.
The fall left the boy in a coma for a while. He was attacked again. After that second attack, the mother & co realised that the knife used in this second murder attempt belongs to Tyrion Lannister. That second attack confirmed that the fall wasn't an accident and that the Lannisters are behind it.

The fact that Eddard Stark knew about Jamie and his sister has to do with how the children look. Eddard Stark obviously knew about the illegitimate children of Robert Baratheon. His illegitimate children all, without exception, very much look like Robert whereas the children of his wife do not, not even a bit. So, from there comes the theory that those so-called "legitimate" children are not from Robert but from Cersei's own brother. Stark understood that this was the reason why the first Hand had died as well and he was foolish enough to talk about this theory to Cersei, saying that he would inform Robert.
Cersei started plotting the deaths of Roger and Eddard Stark.

Stannis also knew that the children are not his brother's so later on in the series, he writes a letter to inform everybody involved with the struggle for the thrones, that the Lannister boy on the throne isn't a real Baratheon so has no actual claim on the throne.

Ben.
08-27-2012, 12:52 PM
Excellent casting once again. I prefer him over Dominic West, who reportedly rejected the role as it would have meant he'd have been away from his family for too long.

I didn't realise Dominic West turned it down :sad: Makes sense though, as he had his role in The Wire reduced for the same reason.

Harmless
08-27-2012, 03:02 PM
Cersei started plotting the deaths of Roger and Eddard Stark.
A Freudian slip, mayhaps? :D

Great summary though. :yeah:
Why aren't you watching the show, if you don't mind me asking? Waiting or just like the books better?

I didn't realise Dominic West turned it down :sad: Makes sense though, as he had his role in The Wire reduced for the same reason.
Imagine if Dominic West and Aidan Gillen came together for an HBO show again. :speakles:

tripwires
08-27-2012, 03:15 PM
This isn't related to GoT...

Maya, are you actually on MTF? :speakles:

Ben.
08-27-2012, 04:08 PM
Imagine if Dominic West and Aidan Gillen came together for an HBO show again. :speakles:

:hearts:

It's been great to see Wendell Pierce, Clarke Peters, Aidan Gillen and Michael K. Williams back on HBO already.

Castafiore
08-28-2012, 08:37 AM
A Freudian slip, mayhaps? :D
:rolls:

Oops.

Steelq
08-28-2012, 03:47 PM
Excellent casting once again. I prefer him over Dominic West, who reportedly rejected the role as it would have meant he'd have been away from his family for too long.

Dominic would have been a superior choice, a lot closer to Mance Rayder in age, and man that performance on The Wire was goatlike.

Pirata.
08-28-2012, 10:12 PM
I wanted James Purefoy for Mance, I loved him in Rome :hearts: but Ciaran was great as well, such a good miniseries.

Castafiore
08-29-2012, 07:19 AM
Why aren't you watching the show, if you don't mind me asking? Waiting or just like the books better?
Forgot to answer your question.

It's not on tv here and I don't feel like buying the DVD or search for it online when I have the books right here to keep me amused. :shrug:

Harmless
08-29-2012, 07:58 PM
This isn't related to GoT...

Maya, are you actually on MTF? :speakles:
I guess I am. :speakles:

:hearts:

It's been great to see Wendell Pierce, Clarke Peters, Aidan Gillen and Michael K. Williams back on HBO already.
What's MKW in? I only caught him on Community.

Forgot to answer your question.

It's not on tv here and I don't feel like buying the DVD or search for it online when I have the books right here to keep me amused. :shrug:
At least you don't have to endure the wait between seasons. :hysteric:
Though you're missing out on the casting excitement. :p I flipped out (in a positive way) when they cast Iwan Rheon as the-one-whose-name-you-must-remember.

Ben.
08-29-2012, 08:31 PM
What's MKW in? I only caught him on Community.


Boardwalk Empire.

Sunset of Age
08-31-2012, 01:48 AM
Books are brilliant, HBO's adaptation is good, too.
Perhaps a bit too much sexploitation to my liking at times, but still a very good show. :yeah:

Awwww, dear, naive BoroNed (Sean Bean, what a great actor he is :hearts:) in the first season... :sad:
Didn't stop me from watching the next season though! :yeah:

Harmless
08-31-2012, 07:29 PM
Books are brilliant, HBO's adaptation is good, too.
Perhaps a bit too much sexploitation to my liking at times, but still a very good show. :yeah:

Awwww, dear, naive BoroNed (Sean Bean, what a great actor he is :hearts:) in the first season... :sad:
Didn't stop me from watching the next season though! :yeah:
Great to see another reader here. :D Have you read ASOS and who are you looking forward to seeing in S3?

Sunset of Age
09-01-2012, 11:35 PM
Great to see another reader here. :D Have you read ASOS and who are you looking forward to seeing in S3?

Yep I have, and YES even more, I'm looking forward to S3! :worship:

Still have to admit that I will never get over BoroNed's beheading in S1... awwww... :bigcry:
(yep, here's a Sean Bean fan speaking... :angel: :p)

viruzzz
09-01-2012, 11:57 PM
I bought the 3rd and 4th books today.

YAAAAY!!! :D

Sunset of Age
09-03-2012, 08:04 PM
I've got all five of the books that have been released so far, and damn it's pleasant & entertaining - though cruel! - stuff.

Tyrion. Arya. Jon. :worship:

Sophitia36
09-04-2012, 12:17 PM
I have read all the books and seen the 2 seasons. I really love that series.

I thought season 1 was brilliant, they knew how to adapt the book by making a few minor changes, while at the same time being really true to the books.
Now, I was a little disappointed with some of their choices for season 2. It was amazing too, but I thought they were going too far with the omnipresence of sex. Seriously I don't mind some sex and violence, and there is already a lot of it in the book, but I think that precisely, there's quite enough, no need to try and add even more whenever there's an opportunity... They were also making some really unnecessary changes, and I even thought that some of the dialogues were poorly written (Danaerys and her great speeches, or Theon Greyjoy who had some really bad lines)

In the adaptation, what I dislike the most is their tendency to try and make absolutely EVERYTHING clear and explicit (especially if it involves more sex).
*Possible SPOILERS*
What I mean by that is, the book has a lot of small mysteries (often regarding who slept with who etc) and Martin is careful not to say clearly whether one hypothesis is truer than the other.
Examples include: -Renly being gay and his implied relationship with Loras Tyrell (that's what I bothered me the most, mainly because I liked Renly and they completely changed his character to turn him into a blatant gay stereotype)
-Stannis and Melisandre being lovers
-Margaery Tyrell's claim that Renly did not consumate their marriage
-Also Margaery's attitude: in the books, you never really know whether she is truly a very chaste girl or if she's just a libertine who sleeps around with everyone and is just good at hiding it. Now I have a hunch that in the series, they're definitely going for the "slutty" option...

Otherwise, I love everything else. The soundtrack, the settings, the costumes are absolutely perfect. And the cast is really very close to perfection, as well (I agree with other people that Arya in particular is incredible).

What I love the most about A Song of Ice and Fire is the quality of the characterization. None of the characters is 100% lovable, and yet, you just love all of them. I mean, it would be impossible for me to select one favourite character, and when I start thinking about it, I realize that I love ALL the characters.
Ned, Catelyn, Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion, Littlefinger, Danaerys, Arya, Sansa, Jon, Stannis... I don't know, in their own way, they're all perfect. Even the bad ones are perfect, I can't say I "love" Joffrey, but God, do I love to hate him! :devil:

Sophitia36
09-04-2012, 12:59 PM
BTW. I still don't know whether this is absolutely awesome, or awful, or creepy... But it just kills me everytime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEg4SEch27w

Pirata.
09-04-2012, 08:51 PM
Great to see another reader here. :D Have you read ASOS and who are you looking forward to seeing in S3?

Red and Purple Weddings :devil:

Sophitia36
09-05-2012, 10:50 PM
Red and Purple Weddings :devil:

LOL how sadistic!

I'm looking forward to the Jaime/Brienne trip. And then, to be honest, I don't remember what happens in which book!

jmjhb
09-06-2012, 03:24 PM
Got to admit that book 5 was an absolute chore, I'm totally bored with what's happening at the Wall and in Meereen.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-06-2012, 03:46 PM
Yeah. GRRM really dropped the ball by extending the series so long. It was supposed to be three books. It will be like eight books at least now, whatever he says. And really contrived crap to bring it all to a head. I don't know why he had to have 100 subplots going on.

Thunder Hoad
09-07-2012, 04:31 AM
Storm of Swords is like a midpoint where he could pay off certain storylines. He needed the next book(s) to move the chess pieces into position for the push to the finale. Could they have been less spinning the wheel? Probably but there was no realistic way for the series to maintain the SOS momentum. I expect the next book to ramp things up again a little and for a pretty good final book because he's had the ending in his head for a while.

Sophitia36
09-07-2012, 09:38 AM
Yeah. GRRM really dropped the ball by extended the series so long. It will be like eight books at least now, whatever he says. And really contrived crap to bring it all to a head. I don't know why he had to have 100 subplots going on.

Yeah, I love the books, but I have to agree with that. The strengths of GRRM's series are also its weaknesses.

I love having many, many characters, and most of them are great, but still, there are too many of them. Unless you're a true book fanatic, there are necessarily going to be guys you don't remember anything about, or simply people you don't care about.

And the "point of view" narration is a great device, but it also means that sometimes you have to follow certain characters to places where there's just not much happening.
I was really bored with Arya in her crazy temple and with some parts of Danaerys's story (actually in the last book I thought it was becoming more interesting), although I love both characters.

sexybeast
09-08-2012, 01:45 AM
I love almost every storyline and character, but Daenarys doesnt do it at all with me, specially in the later books.

I really fucking love the family dynamics in the Boltons, Lannisters and the Greyjoys, I cant help but be attracted to the darker characters.

Cant wait to see how they do the Boltons, they have alot of catching up to do there. Greyjoys must fucking be done right, they nailed the Lannisters nd Tywin is even better in the series than the books. Cant wait for the show to take on the Victarion-Euron sibbling rivalry which really intrigues me, I love how Victarion is so fckng righteous, religious and moral but alltogether evil following the blue-orange warrior morality code of the ironborn, kind of reminds me of Khal Drogo.

10 best characters in the book:

1.Theon Greyjoy aka Reek
2.Jamie Lannister
3.Arya Stark
4.Tyrion Lanniser
5.Stannis Baratheron
6.Roose Bolton
7.Euron Greyjoy
8.Littlefinger
9.The Hound
10.Victarion Greyjoy

In HBO series:

1.Arya (the child actress is just incredible!)
2.Tyrion
3.Tywin (all thanks to the great actor)
4.Jamie
5.Theon
6.The Hound
7.Stannis
8.Ned
9.Melissandre
10.Jon

Looner
11-09-2012, 02:37 AM
I just marathoned through the first two seasons in 3 days and I am now eagerly awaiting to receive my 7 books, so I can read more about (what I thought was the full but apparently not) this captivating story.

Ever since I read LotR, I never thought something could match it but I somewhat sense this epic without an end looks set to come close if not overtake it.

What are your thoughts on Game of Thrones season 1 and 2? If you haven't seen it yet, DO IT!

Pirata.
11-10-2012, 11:38 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing the Red Wedding on screen :devil:

buddyholly
11-10-2012, 01:17 PM
What are your thoughts on Game of Thrones season 1 and 2? If you haven't seen it yet, DO IT!

Rented season #1 last week. Watched one episode and returned it. For me it fell into the ever popular cable TV genre of ''throw in some nudity and they'll watch anything''.

Really, I just wanted to see the little cove in columnar basalt that is near my birthplace in Ireland, but even fast-forwarding wasn't going to be worth it.

sexybeast
11-12-2012, 12:16 AM
Rented season #1 last week. Watched one episode and returned it. For me it fell into the ever popular cable TV genre of ''throw in some nudity and they'll watch anything''.

Really, I just wanted to see the little cove in columnar basalt that is near my birthplace in Ireland, but even fast-forwarding wasn't going to be worth it.

Well, it is not like you think. Books sold 15 millions without any nude pics at all.

Looner
11-12-2012, 01:01 AM
Rented season #1 last week. Watched one episode and returned it. For me it fell into the ever popular cable TV genre of ''throw in some nudity and they'll watch anything''.

Really, I just wanted to see the little cove in columnar basalt that is near my birthplace in Ireland, but even fast-forwarding wasn't going to be worth it.

:lol: Nice of you to withhold judgement until you've seen more of it :haha:. It's a pretty realistic depiction me thinks even if the sex scenes at the beginning are a bit excessive.

I am still waiting for the books which is preposterous :(.

Pirata.
11-12-2012, 01:13 AM
Well, it is not like you think. Books sold 15 millions without any nude pics at all.

What, you weren't turned on by GRRM's descriptions of Sam's fat pink mast? :aplot:

buddyholly
11-12-2012, 03:39 AM
:lol: Nice of you to withhold judgement until you've seen more of it :haha:. It's a pretty realistic depiction me thinks even if the sex scenes at the beginning are a bit excessive.

I am still waiting for the books which is preposterous :(.

I have never been able to appreciate the fantasy genre. Star Wars to Lord of the Rings, did nothing for me. I like realism. So really I just rented this hoping the sex scenes would be even more excessive than they were.

Looner
11-12-2012, 03:41 AM
I love Sci-Fi and fantasy :hearts:. You'd be overjoyed to know Stars Wars Episode VII is coming :p.

Pirata.
11-12-2012, 03:45 AM
I have never been able to appreciate the fantasy genre. Star Wars to Lord of the Rings, did nothing for me. I like realism. So really I just rented this hoping the sex scenes would be even more excessive than they were.

The sex scenes get worse (or better, depending on your preferences :lol:) as the series goes along.

sexybeast
11-12-2012, 06:28 PM
I have never been able to appreciate the fantasy genre. Star Wars to Lord of the Rings, did nothing for me. I like realism. So really I just rented this hoping the sex scenes would be even more excessive than they were.

There is a good dose of realism in Game of thrones, give it a shot beyond the first 2-3 episodes and you will be hooked.¨There are some excessive sex scenes further on if you need them, it really goes beyond most other HBO series.

Harmless
11-26-2012, 07:49 PM
The sex scenes get worse (or better, depending on your preferences :lol:) as the series goes along.
This is definitely true. :lol: How true to the story do you think they'll go with that scene? :scared:

electronicmusic
11-26-2012, 08:25 PM
Can't wait for Season 3 and more of this:

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electronicmusic
12-04-2012, 05:40 PM
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4 months to go!

savesthedizzle
12-04-2012, 05:43 PM
This season, with the plots they have to work with, should be amazing :dance: So excited!

buddyholly
12-04-2012, 06:01 PM
The sex scenes get worse (or better, depending on your preferences :lol:) as the series goes along.

Oh s**t, I guess I should have at least fast forwarded the other episodes before returning the season virtually unwatched.

sexybeast
01-12-2013, 04:05 AM
New teaser:

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Reveals nothing....but there are drums which makes me happy.

Some footage but no trailer:

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Wishlist for season 3:

1.Real bear
2.Good invented storyline for Ramsey to make up for cuting him out of season 2
3.Dreams, lots of them. They have been missing so far.
4.Naked Sansa Stark. Quote with pedobears or whatever you like to call that, all heterosexual men want to see this.
5.Flashbacks.
6.Wolfman (only bookreaders know what I am talking about)

Pirata.
01-13-2013, 04:32 PM
Rains of Castamere :drool:

Noleta
01-13-2013, 06:51 PM
Excited for SE3,bring it on:cool:I stayed away from the books,cause i only end up disappointed with televised version,it's always different to the book.:shrug:

Sophitia36
01-13-2013, 06:56 PM
Excited for SE3,bring it on:cool:I stayed away from the books,cause i only end up disappointed with televised version,it's always different to the book.:shrug:

You're right. The books are awesome, so read them afterwards and you won't be disappointed.

Looner
01-13-2013, 07:13 PM
The series won't end for another 10 years (realistically), so you better be prepared to wait :p.

Noleta
01-13-2013, 07:24 PM
You're right. The books are awesome, so read them afterwards and you won't be disappointed.

I can read the first 2 books,but then knowing myself,i can't help but read the rest of the books:o

The series won't end for another 10 years (realistically), so you better be prepared to wait :p.

Sod the books then :lol:

Trollicki
01-14-2013, 12:33 AM
Is it me or did I hear wedding bells toll?

Sophitia36
01-14-2013, 12:00 PM
I can read the first 2 books,but then knowing myself,i can't help but read the rest of the books:o


True... I saw the first Lord of the Rings movie before reading the books, then I read all 3, and I regretted it bitterly afterwards because I'm sure it spoilt my enjoyment of the 2nd and 3rd movies.

At the same time, the books are really really good. And both the series and the book take a long time to be released, so... To be honest, since I read the books, I have forgotten a lot of the details, so unless the series really strays a lot from the original, I don't really notice it.

It would be a shame to wait for 10 years! All the more as some fans fear GRR Martin will not live long enough to finish his books...

sexybeast
01-15-2013, 09:17 PM
True... I saw the first Lord of the Rings movie before reading the books, then I read all 3, and I regretted it bitterly afterwards because I'm sure it spoilt my enjoyment of the 2nd and 3rd movies.

At the same time, the books are really really good. And both the series and the book take a long time to be released, so... To be honest, since I read the books, I have forgotten a lot of the details, so unless the series really strays a lot from the original, I don't really notice it.

It would be a shame to wait for 10 years! All the more as some fans fear GRR Martin will not live long enough to finish his books...

He probably wont seeing how fat and prematurely he has aged, I will almost be happy if he just finishes Winds of Winter and then the last book will be left with a sense of mystery and we will all have our own theories on how it all ended.

However, Winds of Winter needs to be done, it is just so many cliffhangers left hanging in the air by the end of the 5th book.

sexybeast
02-21-2013, 07:16 PM
Some interesting clips from s2 bluray, short stories:

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Sexy Ygritte's voice is my favorite:

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Also good deleted scene:

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And no trailer for season 3, this is the best we got:


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Nathaliia
02-21-2013, 07:53 PM
i heard he left clues to the producers how the books would end, in case he dies.

so the show will be finished accordingly to his ideas, i'd guess.

sexybeast
02-21-2013, 09:03 PM
This year we will be introduced to the Tully it seems and there will be alot of Bolton goody too, Tyrells will be properly expanded as one of the main families with the introduction of Lady Oleanna.

I wonder if people will have a hard time keeping track of the story, those who havent read the book. What began as a story of struggle between 2 families will end up beeing about 10 families and alot of other players beeing introduced from every corner of Westeros (and Essos), even the lesser noble families are important.

Even in the later books many lost track of the story as it expanded like a balloon. I loved it ofcourse, chaos is the right word for the struggle of power in Westeros. I just dont know how this will translate on the screen, I still hold the 1st season as better than the 2nd because simplicity worked well for the TV producers.

Clash of Kings was a better book than Game of Thrones, so it makes you wonder if they can hold true to the story's complexity.

Also, the past is so important to the story. They should make a Roberts rebellion ministory before season 4.

sexybeast
02-21-2013, 09:09 PM
My favorite family:


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Makes me so melancholic, gone are the glorious day when a man could pay the iron price to bring home beautiful women. :sad:

sexybeast
02-21-2013, 09:16 PM
The best bromance in Westeros:

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sexybeast
02-22-2013, 01:43 AM
It seems like there will be a proper season 3 trailer out there tomorrow shown in the Jimmy Kimmel show.

viruzzz
02-22-2013, 01:47 AM
I read the 5 books, watched the 1st season and i'm gonna watch the 2nd season this month.
It's probably one of the best tv series I've ever seen, and it has become my favorite book saga ever.

Great stuff :D

sexybeast
02-23-2013, 07:32 AM
Epic trailer to water your mouth:

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Allez
02-23-2013, 08:05 AM
Wow Daenerys!!

Punky
02-23-2013, 08:40 AM
amazing show, cant wait!!!

sexybeast
02-23-2013, 01:48 PM
Belive me, season 3+4 will be the greatest seasons of television we have ever seen if they play their cards right.

tennisfan856
02-23-2013, 02:59 PM
^ yes, one part will make or break the show.

Eddy DoubleD
02-23-2013, 03:18 PM
Belive me, season 3+4 will be the greatest seasons of television we have ever seen if they play their cards right.

True:yeah: Third volume was by far the best.

Sophitia36
02-23-2013, 03:43 PM
I read the 5 books, watched the 1st season and i'm gonna watch the 2nd season this month.
It's probably one of the best tv series I've ever seen, and it has become my favorite book saga ever.

Great stuff :D

It is an amazing book saga, indeed. I think Rome is even better as a series, though Game of Thrones is pretty incredible too. Probably because occasionally their choices piss me off, and it tends to affect my enjoyment of it a little, but otherwise, it is very good, both as a series and as an adaptation.

I'm really looking forward to season 3. I have started to forget some of the developments that happen in the 3rd book, and that can only increase my enjoyment of the series.

Pirata.
02-25-2013, 10:34 PM
^ yes, one part will make or break the show.

Absolutely, and if they fail at that, it will ruin the momentum with the rest of the season. The best part about it in the book is that you never really see it coming, especially with the second character death and what happens to them later :devil:

Sophitia36
02-25-2013, 11:23 PM
Absolutely, and if they fail at that, it will ruin the momentum with the rest of the season. The best part about it in the book is that you never really see it coming, especially with the second character death and what happens to them later :devil:

Well, if you read carefully, you do have the feeling that something's coming. But I never thought he would make it THAT earth-shattering... :eek:

viruzzz
02-25-2013, 11:29 PM
It is an amazing book saga, indeed. I think Rome is even better as a series, though Game of Thrones is pretty incredible too. Probably because occasionally their choices piss me off, and it tends to affect my enjoyment of it a little, but otherwise, it is very good, both as a series and as an adaptation.

I'm really looking forward to season 3. I have started to forget some of the developments that happen in the 3rd book, and that can only increase my enjoyment of the series.

Oh yes, season 3 will be pure solid shiny gold.
I mean... I'll watch season 2 this month, but my fav book was the 3rd one, and this could be really amazing.

I didn't watched Rome yet, everyone say it's one of the best TV series ever, should I start watching it?

sexybeast
02-25-2013, 11:58 PM
Oh yes, season 3 will be pure solid shiny gold.
I mean... I'll watch season 2 this month, but my fav book was the 3rd one, and this could be really amazing.

I didn't watched Rome yet, everyone say it's one of the best TV series ever, should I start watching it?

Rome ending was pretty horrible because they had to rush it as it was cancelled but it is one hell of a show, yeah watch it to warm up for GOT season 3.

About the book 3 that they will split into 2 seasons, that book is nothing short of a miracle in storytelling. Book 4+5 is more the melancholic aftermath of book 3 and book 1+2 is the buildup to everything that happens in the third book.

I just wonder which season will be best, 3rd or 4th? Doesnt matter, these 2 seasons will be absolutely mindblowing. How so many story arcs pointing to different directions can become a wholesome perfect knot is still something I have tried to understand for so long, but I cant figure out how George RR Martin did it. Truly the work of a magician.

Pirata.
02-26-2013, 11:49 PM
I'm excited for the Martells--I know we won't see Doran, Ariane and the Sand Snakes until season five, at least, but I can't wait for Oberyn. Oded Fehr would be great :drool:

Also, I hope they get Alexander Siddig for Doran (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbib1sSHZG1riw610o1_500.png).

sexybeast
02-27-2013, 12:09 AM
I'm excited for the Martells--I know we won't see Doran, Ariane and the Sand Snakes until season five, at least, but I can't wait for Oberyn. Oded Fehr would be great :drool:

Also, I hope they get Alexander Siddig for Doran (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbib1sSHZG1riw610o1_500.png).

Wont be this season, but Oded Fehr is one hell of a choise for Oberyn! I am more excited for the 2 Greyjoy brothers myself, I am more of an ironborn than a sandsnake I guess.

Madds Mikkelsen as Euron and Vladimir Kulich as Victarion, now that would be a dream come true. Tell me if this is not how we all picture The Reaver:

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Sophitia36
02-27-2013, 10:50 AM
Oh yes, season 3 will be pure solid shiny gold.
I mean... I'll watch season 2 this month, but my fav book was the 3rd one, and this could be really amazing.

I didn't watched Rome yet, everyone say it's one of the best TV series ever, should I start watching it?

Rome is one of the best series I have ever seen. In my opinion, and although I LOVE Game of Thrones, it is even better. Of course you've got to be prepared for the fact that there are only two seasons, and that they couldn't finish the story properly because of financial problems. That's definitely frustrating.
But otherwise, I think this series is pretty close to perfection. I love the entire cast. I hadn't seen any of them before, apart from maybe James Purefoy. But seriously, I find every single actor in this series to be breathtaking. The two main roles are just really endearing in their own ways, Ciaran Hinds as Caesar is amazing, there are some really strong female roles too with great actresses (Polly Walker...)
I also love the way their intertwine fiction with historical events. Not very believable sometimes, of course, since Pullo and Vorenus keep being there when shit happens, but who cares? :D

Just like Game of Thrones, it has quite a lot of sex and violence, but unlike Game of Thrones, I thought it felt less contrived. Honestly, I don't mind violence and sex at all, the problem is, I don't like it when I feel it's being overdone, as a cheap way to attract more viewers. Game of Thrones sometimes gave me that impression, especially in the second season.
There's already plenty of sex and violence in the books, but somehow, they seem to think that they need to seize every damn occasion to put even MORE sex and violence in it. I think that's a bad choice and it makes an otherwise awesome adaptation look a little cheap. Game of Thrones doesn't need to be turned into a titty show in order to be attractive. It is already pretty damn awesome as it is.
It also means they feel compelled to make everything that is left a little mysterious or unsaid in the books absolutely explicit (Renly/Loras, Renly/Margaery, Stannis/Melisandre...) and I don't like that. I think it dumbs down the show. Martin is not afraid to make explicit sexual intercourse scenes very explicit, so when he decides to leave something unsaid, I think it would be a good choice to respect that aspect.

sexybeast
03-03-2013, 07:26 PM
Extended trailer with some more goodies:

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A bear there was, A BEAR, A BEAR!

sexybeast
03-03-2013, 08:10 PM
There's already plenty of sex and violence in the books, but somehow, they seem to think that they need to seize every damn occasion to put even MORE sex and violence in it. I think that's a bad choice and it makes an otherwise awesome adaptation look a little cheap. Game of Thrones doesn't need to be turned into a titty show in order to be attractive. It is already pretty damn awesome as it is.
It also means they feel compelled to make everything that is left a little mysterious or unsaid in the books absolutely explicit (Renly/Loras, Renly/Margaery, Stannis/Melisandre...) and I don't like that. I think it dumbs down the show. Martin is not afraid to make explicit sexual intercourse scenes very explicit, so when he decides to leave something unsaid, I think it would be a good choice to respect that aspect.

It is a good point, I like subtlety in my series and Game of Thrones is very bad at beeing discrete about things, too bad they did not stay true to George RR Martin in that regard. I forgive the show just because all else is so damn good, like scene/costume design and visual effects (cant belive they did those dragons so belivable with THAT BUDGET!) the cast is truly wonderful and enchanses some parts of the book, some characters just come to life and are damn brilliant. Such a huge cast too.

The child actors are just incredible, boy will it pay off as the story progresses.

Pirata.
03-03-2013, 09:30 PM
Extended trailer with some more goodies:

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A bear there was, A BEAR, A BEAR!

The Bear and the Maiden Fair! The Lord's Kiss! :drool:

shadows
03-03-2013, 09:32 PM
This season should be fantastic, trailer looks like they're going to get a lot of stuff right =)

Moonball Pusher
03-03-2013, 09:35 PM
What I don't understand is, if someone loves the TV series so much, how can you stand to wait for the next season when you could easily read the book and find out what happens?

Sophitia36
03-03-2013, 09:52 PM
It is a good point, I like subtlety in my series and Game of Thrones is very bad at beeing discrete about things, too bad they did not stay true to George RR Martin in that regard. I forgive the show just because all else is so damn good, like scene/costume design and visual effects (cant belive they did those dragons so belivable with THAT BUDGET!) the cast is truly wonderful and enchanses some parts of the book, some characters just come to life and are damn brilliant. Such a huge cast too.

The child actors are just incredible, boy will it pay off as the story progresses.

I agree, the cast is amazing, especially the children. Arya is my personal favourite among the actors, but Bran and Sansa (though she's not really a child) are awesome as well.
Considering that I had read the book before seeing the series, I would say most of the choices they made were perfect. I think my only disappointment was Renly, I don't like the actor, and they changed his character a lot. I'm not too crazy about Natalie Dormer either, because she just reminds me too much of Anne Boleyn. Otherwise, I thought they were all perfect.

What I don't understand is, if someone loves the TV series so much, how can you stand to wait for the next season when you could easily read the book and find out what happens?

Well, I think waiting is the right choice. You will not be disappointed by the book after you've seen the series, while having read the book recently will spoil your appreciation of the series. At least in my case, that's how it works :D
Or else, I hope to have forgotten a little about the books when I see the series (this is probably what's going to happen now, I've read them all but I don't remember the details).

The trailer is exciting!

tennisfan856
03-04-2013, 04:49 PM
Absolutely, and if they fail at that, it will ruin the momentum with the rest of the season. The best part about it in the book is that you never really see it coming, especially with the second character death and what happens to them later :devil:

Thinking about it again, the show is pretty doomed once book 3 ends. His writing in the last two books won't translate well to tv and I'm not sure audiences will warm up to the new characters.

sexybeast
03-16-2013, 03:20 PM
Really looks like they upped the scale of their budget:

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Looks so cinematic...

sexybeast
03-17-2013, 12:37 AM
It just gets better and better with these trailers:

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Oh my, look at sexy Ygritte at 0:41! Be strong Jon, remember your vows....

sexybeast
03-18-2013, 01:20 AM
Ok, the best trailer was yet to come. Any fans out there in this site? This looks mindblowing:

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Have you guys ever seen anything like this on TV? I mean the scope of it all..

sexybeast
03-20-2013, 07:40 PM
Bloody dragons fishing, this is quite stunning:

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They are starting to look a bit scary...

mike s.
03-22-2013, 03:27 AM
Can't wait, book 3 was my favorite and the trailers look amazing. I wonder where they will cut it off for the end of the season.

As for reading the books vs. the show, I started reading the books right after the first episode of the show and am glad I did. It enhances the show because you don't get confused and notice little details you otherwise wouldn't know about. It doesn't ruin the show at all for me.

tennisfan856
03-22-2013, 06:03 AM
I respectfully disagree. I read the books after the first season aired and completely regret it. Watching season 2 was like having the scripts in hand with some major cuts thrown in. The suspense of what was going to happen to Winterfall/Theon or the Stannis/King's Landing battle would've been much more exciting for me had I not known. For me sadly, the books really display the flaws in some episode scripts even though I enjoy the series as a whole.

Pirata.
04-01-2013, 02:16 AM
Bit of a snoozefest tonight. Book 3 is covered by three seasons, they've already covered at least half of Dany's storyline from the third book :lol:

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sexybeast
04-02-2013, 01:12 AM
I loved the episode, that scene between Tywin and Tyrion is hearthbreaking, I could sit and watch 2 great actors like that just talking with each other for an hour. I love how they are really taking it slow and doing character development. I am incredibly interested to see where they will go with the Jeofrey and Margeary arc that we couldnt see in the book so much because of the POV storytelling. Jeoffrey looked like a little schoolboy, very insecure with Margeary like if he did not know how to impress her.

tennisfan856
04-02-2013, 05:28 AM
I thought it was fantastic as well, the flow already a whole lot better than beginning of season 2. The tywin/tyrion scene was just amazing, they both nailed that scene. Newcomer ciarin hinds was great, the character is in good hands. The unsullied were just as I had envisioned, excellent job by the creators. Keep this up and we're in for 2 years of golden television.

One thing though is they need to slow down with dany or they will need to make up material if they want her to be a regular.

Pirata.
04-02-2013, 05:30 PM
Jeoffrey looked like a little schoolboy, very insecure with Margeary like if he did not know how to impress her.

I think he was so used to Sansa's submissiveness (because she had to be, in order to survive) that being confronted by someone as headstrong and independent as Margaery, he doesn't know what to do.

jmjhb
04-02-2013, 06:51 PM
I really dislike the casting of Margaery. I know they've aged the characters, but she is far too old.

They seem to have aged Meli too?

I thought it was a good scenesetter, though I didn't like how they changed the Jon/Mance bits from the book and the Selmy reveal was surprising, if logical, from a TV point of view.

As mentioned, that Tywin/Tyrion scene was great. They captured the giants and the Wildlings perfectly, I thought.

Sophitia36
04-02-2013, 07:06 PM
It was a bit slow, like a first episode, but it was good.

Great Bronn scenes almost made up for no Jaime :D

Looner
04-02-2013, 07:30 PM
I am happy I've read the books because I am pretty sure I would have found this first episode even more disappointing.

superslam77
04-02-2013, 08:01 PM
first episode of season 3 was good...bit of a recap though...

Allez
04-02-2013, 08:15 PM
Episode 1 a bit of a bore which is understandable if they plan to drag book three out into a 2 more seasons.

Though the Tywin and Tyrion scene was fantastic it's hard for me to feel any sympathy for the imp knowing he's the author's favourite character by a mile. How can anyone take it seriously when the imp acts as if he's scared of his sister who is portrayed as incredibly stupid. Even without reading the books one must sense certain favouritism by the author. Yeah yeah the imp will outsmart everyone! fuck off. I'd be happy to see his head roll! Tywin is amazing though. Fantastic actor for a superb character. There are vile people like that in real life.

Danny! One of my favourite characters in the books...the author could have done so much more with her character. Enormous wasted potential. I suppose he didn't want to upstage his favourite characters *sigh*. The dragons are starting to look a little less cute and a touch more frightening. Lovely.

I too don't like the casting of Margaery.She is too old/ mature/smart for Joffery...it's not a fair contest. Also I will always think of the actress as Anne Boleyn :lol:

Stannis scenes are always cool. Loved the dialog between Sir Davos and Melisandre. The horror in Davos' face when reminded of his part in the blackwater disaster. He was so self righteous before the war wanting nothing to do with Melisandre's witchcraft and now he has to live with the consequences ;)

Scenes with the Wildlings are always a treat. Jon Snow is not my favourite character at all...probably because he is one of the authors' favourites so I'm always looking for bias. Perfect casting for Ygritte if ever there was one though. She is cool. So is Sam. The scene of him running in the snow is classic.

Roll on episode 2.;)

Sophitia36
04-02-2013, 08:44 PM
Episode 1 a bit of a bore which is understandable if they plan to drag book three out into a 2 more seasons.

Though the Tywin and Tyrion scene was fantastic it's hard for me to feel any sympathy for the imp knowing he's the author's favourite character by a mile. How can anyone take it seriously when the imp acts as if he's scared of his sister who is portrayed as incredibly stupid.

Well... Cersei is not THAT stupid and she certainly isn't harmless! She makes mistakes but she's also cunning, powerful and totally ruthless. I would be scared of her, even if I had Tyrion's brains.

I understand what you mean about the Tyrion "favouritism". It is also getting on my nerves a bit. But Tyrion is still an awesome character.



I too don't like the casting of Margaery.She is too old/ mature/smart for Joffery...it's not a fair contest. Also I will always think of the actress as Anne Boleyn :lol:

I have the same problem regarding Anne Boleyn, but it's starting to bother me a little less. They are fleshing out her character a bit more and I am beginning to see Margaery instead of Anne.


Stannis scenes are always cool. Loved the dialog between Sir Davos and Melisandre. The horror in Davos' face when reminded of his part in the blackwater disaster. He was so self righteous before the war wanting nothing to do with Melisandre's witchcraft and now he has to live with the consequences ;)

I don't know why, but I have a lot of affection for Davos as a character, although he is the type of character that I usually don't like (the guy whose only real quality is his loyalty).
There is something about his devotion to Stannis that I find really moving.

Allez
04-02-2013, 09:59 PM
Well... Cersei is not THAT stupid and she certainly isn't harmless! She makes mistakes but she's also cunning, powerful and totally ruthless. I would be scared of her, even if I had Tyrion's brains.


We hear other characters talk of Cersei's cunning and power but we don't see it. We don't see how she arrives at the conclusions she does. All we see is her being outsmarted by the imp time and time again. She never gets one up on everyone's favourite dwarf. So at some point you have to wonder what it is that these characters see in her that we as the audience don't? She was superb in book 1 dealing with the Starks...her "when you play the game of thrones..." line was iconic. Her neck was on the line and dealt with the situation amazingly well and even then she was not nearly as vile as her son. There were some redeeming qualities to her character. Since then she's been reduced to a paranoid fool. Even Margaery seems a lot better at playing the game...

I find it boring that just because the imp is physically challenged he has to be smarter than everyone else. It's so blatant what the author is doing. He is the cleverest and least mean of all the Lannisters (in spite of what he does in the book) There are dumb and mean dwarves as well :rolleyes:

Danny's brother was the exact opposite. Pretty, incredibly mean and unimaginably dumb :rolleyes:. You only need to look at the author's appearance to know why his characters are that way I suppose. Acting out some deeply rooted shit on his poor characters :haha:

tennisfan856
04-03-2013, 04:22 AM
I don't remember but wasn't the guard that tried to kill tyrion part of the kingsguard? He knew cersei was controlling joffrey so he might have thought it was her plan for that to happen. I don't blame him for the paranoia since nobody really visited him or showed any care.

niff
04-03-2013, 12:23 PM
Stannis scenes are always cool. Loved the dialog between Sir Davos and Melisandre. The horror in Davos' face when reminded of his part in the blackwater disaster. He was so self righteous before the war wanting nothing to do with Melisandre's witchcraft and now he has to live with the consequences ;)
I just saw that as her bluffing, imo Davos is totally right to distrust her. Ultimately the strength of the Tyrell-Lannister alliance was what finished the battle, which was caused by Melisandre influencing Stannis to murder his brother.

Sophitia36
04-03-2013, 04:39 PM
I just saw that as her bluffing, imo Davos is totally right to distrust her. Ultimately the strength of the Tyrell-Lannister alliance was what finished the battle, which was caused by Melisandre influencing Stannis to murder his brother.

True. That's one way of looking at things. Ultimately, the question of whether or not Melisandre is reliable is a big, big question, and it's not going to be solved anytime soon.
I won't spoil people who haven't read all the books yet, though, but I have read them all and I still don't know what to think.

We hear other characters talk of Cersei's cunning and power but we don't see it. We don't see how she arrives at the conclusions she does. All we see is her being outsmarted by the imp time and time again. She never gets one up on everyone's favourite dwarf. So at some point you have to wonder what it is that these characters see in her that we as the audience don't? She was superb in book 1 dealing with the Starks...her "when you play the game of thrones..." line was iconic. Her neck was on the line and dealt with the situation amazingly well and even then she was not nearly as vile as her son. There were some redeeming qualities to her character. Since then she's been reduced to a paranoid fool. Even Margaery seems a lot better at playing the game...

Well, to be honest, Margaery is one of the most clever and cunning of all the characters, so she is better than most people at playing the game. She's more or less another Cersei, but even more beautiful, more clever, and younger (which is arguably why Cersei hates her so much).

I think Cersei has been pretty good, the way she survived Ned Stark's discovery was already pretty impressive. Of course, her son went way overboard and she had not intended that (I think her blind love for that moron Joffrey is probably her greatest weakness). Otherwise, she does quite well, really, when you see what a viper's nest King's Landing can be.
The Imp may be more clever but right now he's not really in a better position than Cersei, is he?

And I don't think she's really paranoid, she knows that in her position, she IS constantly under threat and she has to be very careful.



I find it boring that just because the imp is physically challenged he has to be smarter than everyone else. It's so blatant what the author is doing. He is the cleverest and least mean of all the Lannisters (in spite of what he does in the book) There are dumb and mean dwarves as well :rolleyes:

Danny's brother was the exact opposite. Pretty, incredibly mean and unimaginably dumb :rolleyes:. You only need to look at the author's appearance to know why his characters are that way I suppose. Acting out some deeply rooted shit on his poor characters :haha:

Yeah, well, I agree with you that's it's a little bit cliché to have the ugliest character be the most clever. But you can't really claim it's a pattern...
Margaery for instance is beautiful, and clever, and rather positive (she has her dark side, too, but so does Tyrion after all).
Sansa may not be very clever (though I think people are too hard on her, she's a naive child who got trapped by people who were far more experienced at deceit than she was), but she is beautiful and kind.
Dany is definitely beautiful, clever, and a positive character.

*SPOILERS* Jaime's character also evolves towards something rather positive. By the end of book 1 you hate him with a passion, but now, he has become one of my favourite characters. He is very handsome, he is clever, and once you stop seeing him as "the evil Kingslayer" and you start seeing things from his own point of view, he is not really a bad person. He is quite ruthless when fighting his enemies and defending his own, that's true, but none of the characters in the books are 100% good.

Sombrerero loco
04-03-2013, 06:22 PM
i really want to see more of Cersei soon on the series :hearts: the actress is amazing too, and the character is my fave by far

Allez
04-03-2013, 07:13 PM
I just saw that as her bluffing, imo Davos is totally right to distrust her. Ultimately the strength of the Tyrell-Lannister alliance was what finished the battle, which was caused by Melisandre influencing Stannis to murder his brother.

She spoke the truth. Once Stannis got her involved by removing Renly, he should have stuck with her. That's how "evil" works. You can't have your cake and eat it too :lol: Had she been allowed to weave her magic the war would have been won with very few casualties. But, yeah...god only knows who the red woman ultimately serves so ultimately that would have been a hollow victory. She is sucking poor Stannis dry :lol: To see him so conflicted about her is great stuff :D

Allez
04-03-2013, 07:17 PM
*SPOILERS* Jaime's character also evolves towards something rather positive. By the end of book 1 you hate him with a passion, but now, he has become one of my favourite characters. He is very handsome, he is clever, and once you stop seeing him as "the evil Kingslayer" and you start seeing things from his own point of view, he is not really a bad person. He is quite ruthless when fighting his enemies and defending his own, that's true, but none of the characters in the books are 100% good.

Don't like Jaime's new found sainthood at all. Wish these characters were all black and white so one can enjoy it when they fall (the boy king being top of the list) and feel profound sadness when they fall (Ned Stark). These shades of grey complicate things :lol:

Sophitia36
04-04-2013, 08:58 PM
Don't like Jaime's new found sainthood at all. Wish these characters were all black and white so one can enjoy it when they fall (the boy king being top of the list) and feel profound sadness when they fall (Ned Stark). These shades of grey complicate things :lol:

It's strange that you should love Game of Thrones because if there's one thing to love about these series, it is the complete absence of black-and-white characters (apart from maybe Joffrey... and the bastard of Bolton I guess).

*STILL SLIGHT SPOILERS*
Personally, I don't think Jaime becomes a "saint" at all, I only think that from the moment when he starts being a POV character, you begin to see him in a totally new light. It's not that he suddenly goes from "bad" to "good", it's just that the perspective changes, both on his future acts, and on his past acts. Then, of course, it's true that he does change, but I don't think he becomes "better", he only becomes more clever and stop being manipulated by other people. This I like very much.

In the same way, as soon as characters like Jaime (or later, Cersei) become POV characters, you stop seeing Ned as a saint, because suddenly you see his actions from the adverse point of view. I think that's one of the most fascinating aspects of the books.
Who knows if even Joffrey would have become somewhat likeable if he had been given some POV chapters as well?

Maybe those things appeal to me, because they reflect so well how, in reality, communities with different points of view will construct diametrically opposed visions of the same historical event.
You can see the same phenomenon in GoT, for instance, in relation to the "Kingslayer" nickname.
The Starks and many others see Jaime's killing of the Mad King as a vile act of treason: he killed the man he was sworn to protect. However, from Jaime's point of view, this is totally unfair: as far as he's concerned, he saved the people of King's Landing from the Mad King's folly and therefore should be regarded as a hero. And the others who look at him with disgust are just hypocrites, since they were very happy that he'd killed Aerys but pretended to be appalled...

Punky
04-06-2013, 02:00 PM
Does anyone have a clue what accent they speak?

i loved the ep, no need to repet what u all said i totally agree

i miss jamie..i hope to see king Jeoffrey out of the Throne

i didnt read the books but i doubt the Starks will ever be united again..

sexybeast
04-06-2013, 07:25 PM
Speaking of good-evil, I find it hilarious how we later come to be better introduced to some characters in the Iron Island, were the moral code is so different that beeing good means something entirely else, kind of like among the Dothraki really. Khal Drogo and Victarion are heroes of their people and Victarion is very moral and religous that does horrible things because it is the right thing to do among Iron Islanders. Viking and mongol primitive moral code, the strong taking from the weak and so on and they have their own definition of evil (more like beeing unrespectful to traditions, beeing sneaky/stabbing in the back). Kind of like watching the series Vikings, were the heroes raid and kill innocent people.

ballbasher101
04-07-2013, 05:45 AM
Great show. Heard the books are even better. I might give them a go. I don't enjoy reading but there are exceptions and this might be one such case.

sexybeast
04-08-2013, 04:55 PM
That Margeary is one smartass bitch, boy did she play to Jeoffrey's ego and sadistic sexuality in that scene in episode 2.

jmjhb
04-08-2013, 10:05 PM
Diana Rigg as the Queen of Thorns stole the show this week. :worship:

cocrcici
04-08-2013, 11:00 PM
Yes,GOT rules.

ballbasher101
04-08-2013, 11:08 PM
Does anyone have a clue what accent they speak?

i loved the ep, no need to repet what u all said i totally agree

i miss jamie..i hope to see king Jeoffrey out of the Throne

i didnt read the books but i doubt the Starks will ever be united again..


Most of the actors on the show are British :woohoo:. Rule, Britannia :clap2:.

superslam77
04-08-2013, 11:49 PM
Don't like Jaime's new found sainthood at all. Wish these characters were all black and white so one can enjoy it when they fall (the boy king being top of the list) and feel profound sadness when they fall (Ned Stark). These shades of grey complicate things :lol:

did you guys forget that he had incest with his sister, threw that poor boy down the tower and made him a cripple,killed one of his own family to try to escape and the king yeah that wasn't too bad. the guy is just a serial killer and i...is it allowed to wish for death for these characters :devil: ? i hate the lannisters.