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Berlocq, Ramirez-Hidalgo and Andujar won HC matches at the same tournament

Luinir
03-24-2011, 10:23 PM
Next? :rolleyes:

ciprianned
03-24-2011, 10:28 PM
Capdeville

ivankg
03-24-2011, 10:38 PM
Historical!

Fat Camel
03-24-2011, 10:40 PM
You forgot Lorenzi!!

Pity Riba didn't beat Lu :)

KarlyM
03-24-2011, 10:42 PM
I don't think anyone would have picked all the R1 winners correctly. :lol:

duong
03-24-2011, 10:49 PM
Capdeville

he plays against Gil ;)

Lorenzi is clearly the worst surprise by beating Ljubicic.

Ramirez-Hidalgo in a lesser extent.

Kavcic may be on his way to defeat Rochus as well ;)

Chris Kuerten
03-24-2011, 10:49 PM
Confirmed mug era!

Federer and Nadal are clowns!

tennishero
03-24-2011, 10:50 PM
miami is slow HC, really not that surprising, underdogs always do well here early rounds.

Sonja1989
03-24-2011, 11:08 PM
Maybe those players isn't so bad on slower court.
I add to list Cuevas and Berlocq too who are clay court players too.

The next "surprise" will be when Montanes will beat Karlovic (if not Florian Mayer today)...

Henry Chinaski
03-24-2011, 11:14 PM
unreal.

if only Riba had won to complete the mug-fest.

Shame Volandri and Di Mauro aren't here for comedy victories against Melzer too.

Capdeville doesn't count btw. He used to play the hardcourtin North America instead of the clay court swing in the south when he was a top 100 player

duong
03-24-2011, 11:16 PM
Capdeville doesn't count btw. He used to play the hardcourtin North America instead of the clay court swing in the south when he was a top 100 player

yes I thought the same : Capdeville is not really a claycourt specialist, his opponent Gil is more ;)

Lorenzi also doesn't really dislike hardcourts but seeing him defeat Ljubicic is still a huge surprise.

As for Cuevas the bounce is supposed to be low here which shouldn't help his spinned shots :shrug:

GlennMirnyi
03-24-2011, 11:26 PM
Capdeville isn't a claycourter.

Filo V.
03-24-2011, 11:32 PM
Capdeville and Lorenzi are not clay specialists. As for Ruben, he won a 100K HC challenger last year and he has some decent HC wins on his record. He's a clay specialist but he can at least put a performance on HC that is considered passable.

Berlocq and especially Andujar are poor HC players but Miami, if what I've read is correct, is playing slow, more so than Indian Wells. Miami is a naturally heavy atmosphere, which slows the courts down more. It's also hot and pretty humid, which slows the courts down further. So results like these are not surprising.

duong
03-24-2011, 11:35 PM
Berlocq and especially Andujar are poor HC players but Miami, if what I've read is correct, is playing slow, more so than Indian Wells. Miami is a naturally heavy atmosphere, which slows the courts down more. It's also hot and I read the humidity is like 50%, which slows the courts down further. So results like these are not surprising.

And Berlocq and Andujar met young players Sock and Tomic (well Tomic was expected to win :rolleyes: )

but it's true that Miami is usually slow and maybe even slower this year.

Henry Chinaski
03-24-2011, 11:42 PM
Capdeville and Lorenzi are not clay specialists. As for Ruben, he won a 100K HC challenger last year and he has some decent HC wins on his record. He's a clay specialist but he can at least put a performance on HC that is considered passable.



come off it. The highest ranked player he beat in that Challenger was Niels Desein at 179.

Apart from the freak win against Blake in New Haven a few years ago (the match that led to the introduction of round robin imo) I'm guessing this is his biggest hc win

Obviously conditions in Miami are a factor. Probably the closest thing to blue clay on tour.

BodyServe
03-24-2011, 11:44 PM
Capdeville

Capdeville is actually quite good on hard.

GlennMirnyi
03-24-2011, 11:55 PM
come off it. The highest ranked player he beat in that Challenger was Niels Desein at 179.

Apart from the freak win against Blake in New Haven a few years ago (the match that led to the introduction of round robin imo) I'm guessing this is his biggest hc win

Obviously conditions in Miami are a factor. Probably the closest thing to blue clay on tour.

Purple, actually.

Filo V.
03-25-2011, 12:24 AM
come off it. The highest ranked player he beat in that Challenger was Niels Desein at 179.

Apart from the freak win against Blake in New Haven a few years ago (the match that led to the introduction of round robin imo) I'm guessing this is his biggest hc win

Obviously conditions in Miami are a factor. Probably the closest thing to blue clay on tour.
Well he did beat Mannarino who was hot at the time, and then Bautista who is a decent challenger HC player, so it's not as if those are cakewalk wins. Of course he's a weak HC player but he's not quite Pippo/Riba level, who can't keep matches competitive if they try. He's beaten Verdasco on HC too as well as Blake, and that was Blake at his home event when he was still "the" James Blake.

With that said, the conditions definitely give the clay courters a major advantage. Also the fact Miami is so Latin it gives the Spanish/Latin American players a sense of comfort.

abraxas21
03-25-2011, 12:29 AM
Capdeville doesn't count btw. He used to play the hardcourtin North America instead of the clay court swing in the south when he was a top 100 player

paul prefers hardcourts but he's still a mug on them. he reached the top 100 but didn't last long.

abraxas21
03-25-2011, 12:30 AM
Capdeville is actually quite good on hard.

define 'good'

GlennMirnyi
03-25-2011, 12:39 AM
define 'good'

Considering the number of tennis players in the world, he's good.

Considering the top 100, he's mediocre.

Considering the crème de la crème, then he's awful.

Considering Nadull, then at least he can hold a racket right and slice a ball.

Pirata.
03-25-2011, 04:36 AM
Considering the number of tennis players in the world, he's good.

Considering the top 100, he's mediocre.

Considering the crème de la crème, then he's awful.

Considering Nadull, then at least he can hold a racket right and slice a ball.

:lol:

Action Jackson
03-25-2011, 07:33 AM
Great for the sport.

samanosuke
03-25-2011, 11:15 AM
why so much noise about blue/purple clay . it's good preparation for red clay which starts week after . guys at ATP are so sensible , think on every detail

Nadull_tard
03-25-2011, 11:22 AM
Strong era once gain.