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The Djokovic streak: 32-0 (after winning Madrid); 2nd to Johnny Mac

MIMIC
03-20-2011, 12:35 AM
Federer's best: 16

2006:
-Won Doha (5 matches)
-Won the Australian Open (7 matches)
-Reached the Dubai final (4 matches won)
-Lost his 17th match against Nadal.

Sampras' best: 17

1997:
-Won the Australian Open (7 matches)
-Won San Jose (5 matches)
-Won Philidelphia (5 matches)
-Lost his 18th match in Indian Wells against Ulihrach in the 2nd round (after receiving a bye)

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*UPDATED*


Djokovic's best: 32*

2011:
-Won the Australian Open (7 matches)
-Won Dubai (5 matches)
-Won Indian Wells (6 matches)
-Won Miami (6 matches)
-Won Serbian Open (3 matches)
-Won Madrid (5 matches)

*active streak

According to ESPN, he's 2nd to Johnny Mac's 42-0 start in 1984.

Johnny Groove
03-20-2011, 12:36 AM
Johnny Mac was 39-0 to start 1984 I think.

Certinfy
03-20-2011, 12:36 AM
Make it 18, Nole :worship:

DrJules
03-20-2011, 12:49 AM
Johnny Mac was 39-0 to start 1984 I think.

Unbeaten until the French Open in June 1984 and he lead that final by 2 sets to love.

rafa_maniac
03-20-2011, 12:50 AM
Nadal could be the one to end both Fed and Nole's streaks... 7 years apart.

Blackbriar
03-20-2011, 12:52 AM
Johnny Mac was 39-0 to start 1984 I think.

really? the illeterate serbian looks even more ridiculous now.

rocketassist
03-20-2011, 12:53 AM
Djokovic isn't even fit to clean Sampras' locker room.

Next...

Caralimon
03-20-2011, 12:56 AM
Djokovic isn't even fit to clean Sampras' locker room.

Next...

Of course not, it was a very sweaty locker room.

Certinfy
03-20-2011, 01:47 AM
Nadal could be the one to end both Fed and Nole's streaks... 7 years apart.
7? :scratch:

Priam
03-20-2011, 01:53 AM
Great start by Nole.

Let's see if he can do some damage from April to July (clay and grass).

!VamosRafa!
03-20-2011, 01:57 AM
It will end when he reaches 28(MOnte Carlo final):devil:

Aloimeh
03-20-2011, 02:01 AM
It will end when he reaches 28(MOnte Carlo final):devil:

I think he will win Monte Carlo. It's Miami he's more likely to lose.

n8
03-20-2011, 02:18 AM
The most matches won in a year before a loss was 17*, achieved by Sampras in 1997. The American won his first three tournaments at the Australian Open, San Jose and Philadelphia that year, before losing to 43rd ranked Bohdan Ulihrach in his Indian Wells opener. Djokovic equalled that record with a win over Federer in the semi-finals and the Serbian will set a new record of 18 shall he beat Rafael Nadal and collect the title.

*Since 1990 and for those players who played both Australian Open and Indian Wells.

In my article, http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/djokovic-2011-best-ever-start-season, I compare the best starts to the season (up to Indian Wells) since 1990 including Courier 1993, Agassi 1995, Sampras 1997 and Federer 2004-2007.

Young 8
03-20-2011, 02:21 AM
The most matches won in a year before a loss was 17*, achieved by Sampras in 1997. The American won his first three tournaments at the Australian Open, San Jose and Philadelphia that year, before losing to 43rd ranked Bohdan Ulihrach in his Indian Wells opener. Djokovic equalled that record with a win over Federer in the semi-finals and the Serbian will set a new record of 18 shall he beat Rafael Nadal and collect the title.

*Since 1990 and for those players who played both Australian Open and Indian Wells.

In my article, http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/djokovic-2011-best-ever-start-season, I compare the best ever starts to the season (up to Indian Wells) since 1990 including Courier 1993, Agassi 1995, Sampras 1997 and Federer 2004-2007.

Nice website, I will bookmark it

:yeah:

Certinfy
03-20-2011, 02:28 AM
Great work once again :yeah:

Lopez
03-20-2011, 02:31 AM
Of course this is 1984 but JMac had 39-0 until FO final and led that one 2-0...

Sick stat that.

Clay Death
03-20-2011, 02:32 AM
impressive stuff stat man. keep it coming mate.

n8
03-20-2011, 02:32 AM
Nice website, I will bookmark it
:yeah:
Great work once again :yeah:
impressive stuff stat man. keep it coming mate.

Cheers!

Of course this is 1984 but JMac had 39-0 until FO final and led that one 2-0...

Sick stat that.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Clay Death
03-20-2011, 02:36 AM
its a lot harder today to go 18-0 than at any time in the past. the game has become far more demanding.

n8
03-20-2011, 02:44 AM
Yep. Plus all at big events! He's beaten 6 top 7 players (Murray, Federer x 3 and Berdych x 2) but the world number one is obviously the biggest test so far.

Lopez
03-20-2011, 02:45 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Finished the year with 2 or 3 losses I think... Even today his win % of 1984 is better than anyone else's for an entire season. Federer almost equalled this in 2005 but he lost to Nalbandian at the final of the TMC.

After that French Open in 1984 JMac played at Wimbledon and played Connors in the final... won it something like 6-1 6-1 6-2 :lol:

Beforehand
03-20-2011, 02:45 AM
This thread title is odd.

duong
03-20-2011, 02:48 AM
The most matches won in a year before a loss was 17*, achieved by Sampras in 1997. The American won his first three tournaments at the Australian Open, San Jose and Philadelphia that year, before losing to 43rd ranked Bohdan Ulihrach in his Indian Wells opener. Djokovic equalled that record with a win over Federer in the semi-finals and the Serbian will set a new record of 18 shall he beat Rafael Nadal and collect the title.

in 2008 he won both Australian open and Indian Wells : I'll only consider his start as better if he wins Indian Wells (he had crushed Nadal in that tournament ;) ).

The fact that he won Dubai, well, is not as important.

In my article, http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/djokovic-2011-best-ever-start-season, I compare the best ever starts to the season (up to Indian Wells) since 1990 including Courier 1993, Agassi 1995, Sampras 1997 and Federer 2004-2007.

always funny to read "ever" and "since 1990" :lol: it reminds me of Amirbachar with his best of all times ... since 1978"

And Clay Death's usual note about times being much harder nowadays :rolleyes:

Yes McEnroe 1984 season was another planet ... and he might well have won that French Open final if LEndl had not fought so much :worship:

duong
03-20-2011, 02:49 AM
This thread title is odd.

yes ATP tour history started in 1990 :lol:

well that's what we read all the time to be honest : it seems that tennis only started in the 90s :shrug:

n8
03-20-2011, 02:50 AM
in 2008 he won both Australian open and Indian Wells : I'll only consider his start as better if he wins Indian Wells (he had crushed Nadal in that tournament ;) ).

The fact that he won Dubai, well, is not as important.



always funny to read "ever" and "since 1990" :lol: it reminds me of Amirbachar with his best of all times ... since 1978"

And Clay Death's usual note about times being much harder nowadays :rolleyes:

Yes McEnroe 1984 season was another planet ... and he might well have won that French Open final if LEndl had not fought so much :worship:

You're right. Big oversight on my part. Rushed getting it up because it loses all relevance if Djokovic loses the final. I'll change it now.

Voo de Mar
03-20-2011, 02:51 AM
McEnroe :yeah:

laurie-1
03-20-2011, 02:56 AM
Statracket

Did Sampras in 1994 win over 20 matches consecutive at the start of the year?

I know he won Sydney, Aussie Open, Japan, Indian Wells and Miami - was it not consecutive?

Clay Death
03-20-2011, 02:56 AM
Yep. Plus all at big events! He's beaten 6 top 7 players (Murray, Federer x 3 and Berdych x 2) but the world number one is obviously the biggest test so far.



affirmative. that is the deal.

he is doing it at the biggest events against top guns.

beating fed on hard courts is no easy task for anyone.

duong
03-20-2011, 03:00 AM
Statracket

Did Sampras in 1994 win over 20 matches consecutive at the start of the year?

I know he won Sydney, Aussie Open, Japan, Indian Wells and Miami - was it not consecutive?

he lost his first match of the year in Doha, and also first round in Philadelphia after Aus open, yet it was great, he also won Roma afterwards ;)

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Sa/P/Pete-Sampras.aspx?t=pa&y=1994&m=s&e=0

Voo de Mar
03-20-2011, 03:15 AM
and also first round in Philadelphia after Aus open, yet it was great, he also won Roma afterwards ;)


It's funny that in Philadelphia he was stopped by Eltingh after 12 wins in a row, Eltingh ended Sampras's streak also in 1993 - 19 matches won in a row. In both cases Eltingh won after identical scoreline - 7-6, 6-4 :D

laurie-1
03-20-2011, 03:22 AM
he lost his first match of the year in Doha, and also first round in Philadelphia after Aus open, yet it was great, he also won Roma afterwards ;)

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Sa/P/Pete-Sampras.aspx?t=pa&y=1994&m=s&e=0

Thanks for the clarification.

zlaja777
03-20-2011, 03:55 AM
Good job.

OLYMPICLEGEND
03-20-2011, 04:09 AM
And if Djokovic loses to Rafa in IW Final then his entire reputation is down the drain as it will be the 3rd straight hardcourt match he's lost to Rafa :mad:

coonster14
03-20-2011, 04:15 AM
Top stuff, as always. :yeah:

Action Jackson
03-20-2011, 04:27 AM
McEnroe still the best in this regard.

n8
03-20-2011, 04:27 AM
Statracket

Did Sampras in 1994 win over 20 matches consecutive at the start of the year?

I know he won Sydney, Aussie Open, Japan, Indian Wells and Miami - was it not consecutive?

Sampras' start to 1994 was epic and I mentioned it in my article:

Special mention to Pete Sampras in 1994, although he lost twice (hence exclusion from the table) in Doha and Philadelphia (both in R32), he won Sydney, Australian Open and Indian Wells.
http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/djokovic-2011-best-ever-start-season

He won 7 of his first 9 events in 1994. Dished out a lot of beat downs as well, even on clay at Rome. Won the semi-final there 6-1 6-2 and the final 6-1 6-2 6-2.

rafa_maniac
03-20-2011, 04:36 AM
Depends if he wins tomorrow or not, if not it's not as good as Nadal's 09 who last won AO + IW in one year.

rafa_maniac
03-20-2011, 04:42 AM
7? :scratch:

Miami '04 to IW '11, almost exactly 7 years.

Voo de Mar
03-20-2011, 04:48 AM
Djokovic has won 19 matches in a row, counting the previous year (Davis Cup final).

HarryMan
03-20-2011, 05:25 AM
Impressive stuff from Djokovic. :yeah:

Nadal was the one to stop Federer's winning streak. Will he be the one for Djokovic as well?

Voo de Mar
03-20-2011, 05:30 AM
Djokovic has won 19 matches in a row, counting the previous year (Davis Cup final).

22 with Hopman Cup :secret: ;)

n8
03-20-2011, 05:44 AM
Federer's best: 16

2006:
-Won Doha (5 matches)
-Won the Australian Open (7 matches)
-Reached the Dubai final (4 matches won)
-Lost his 17th match against Nadal.

Sampras' best: 17

1997:
-Won the Australian Open (7 matches)
-Won San Jose (5 matches)
-Won Philidelphia (5 matches)
-Lost his 18th match in Indian Wells against Ulihrach in the 2nd round (after receiving a bye)


Djokovic's best: 17 (so far)

2011:
-Won the Australian Open (7 matches)
-Won Dubai (5 matches)
-Reached Indian Wells final (5 matches won*)

*active streak

As my post is no longer the opening one, here's my table of the best starts to the season (up to Indian Wells final) since 1990 (maximum one loss before final of Indian Wells and must play both Australian Open and Indian Wells):

http://statracket.net/images/table_djokovic2011.jpg
http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/djokovic-2011-best-ever-start-season

HarryMan
03-20-2011, 06:14 AM
As my post is no longer the opening one, here's my table of the best starts to the season (up to Indian Wells final) since 1990 (maximum one loss before final of Indian Wells and must play both Australian Open and Indian Wells):

http://statracket.net/images/table_djokovic2011.jpg
http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/djokovic-2011-best-ever-start-season

Damn impressive. Better than Fed's 04, 05 and 06 as well.

vn01
03-20-2011, 10:38 AM
Run ends tonight. Sorry Nole :hug:

Blackbriar
03-20-2011, 11:01 AM
It was important to make the article yesterday. In a few hours, he will rediscover the joy of defeat.

River
03-20-2011, 11:14 AM
Me thinks a lot of Rafa fans are gonna see a "Rafa should retire at #1" thread very soon.

I'm a Rafa fan, but it's pretty hard to see Rafa winning against this hard court monster who just squashed Roger Federer, bar Roger was being an idiot again.

tnosugar
03-20-2011, 01:29 PM
really? the illeterate serbian looks even more ridiculous now.

you mean, illiterate

River
03-20-2011, 01:32 PM
you mean, illiterate

me thinks blackbrian got owned.

Filo V.
03-20-2011, 03:49 PM
It will be over in a few hours, so hope the Nole fans celebrate this accomplishment now.

Montego
03-21-2011, 09:10 AM
The streak keeps on rolling

feuselino
03-21-2011, 10:04 AM
Sorry, but for me we have to wait and see what the Djoker does at Miami...

Federer in 2006 won AO, IW, Miami and Doha - lost only to Nadal in Dubai - 28-1
Federer in 2005 won IW, Miami, Rotterdam, Doha and Dubai - lost only to Safin at AO - 32-1

And in both matches he lost he won more points...

Nole Rules
03-21-2011, 10:15 AM
It will be over in a few hours, so hope the Nole fans celebrate this accomplishment now.

:haha:

MIMIC
03-21-2011, 10:58 AM
Djoker's season opener better than Sampras :worship:

n8
03-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Sorry, but for me we have to wait and see what the Djoker does at Miami...

Federer in 2006 won AO, IW, Miami and Doha - lost only to Nadal in Dubai - 28-1
Federer in 2005 won IW, Miami, Rotterdam, Doha and Dubai - lost only to Safin at AO - 32-1

And in both matches he lost he won more points...

If we keep going like this we'll end up comparing whole seasons. As per the end of Indian Wells, I think Djokovic has had the best start to the season on tour (since 1990 when Masters Series introduced). Federer's 2006 comes close but Djokovic's clean slate gives him the edge in my opinion.

Henry Chinaski
03-21-2011, 04:42 PM
hehe, in the 39 matches, J-Mac dropped 5 sets.

And he didn't play Australia of course which just goes to show how overrated total slam wins is in the GOAT debate.

There were only 3 slams until the 90's.

n8
03-25-2011, 10:48 AM
Djokovic's 18-match winning streak to start a year is the longest since Lendl 25 match run at the beginning of 1986*. The two longest ever (in the Open Era) were McEnroe's 42 match winning streak in 1984 and Borg's 33 match winning streak to start 1980. Djokovic's run is the longest year to date winning streak that includes a Grand Slam.

* Only players that played all top level events (Grand Slams, Masters Series/ Masters 1000s and Masters/ World Tour Finals) were considered.

Full article on best winning streaks to start a season:
http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/winning-streaks-start-season

ssin
03-25-2011, 11:07 AM
Thank you for the nice article and efforts.

Zagor
03-25-2011, 11:22 AM
As much as I'm impressed with Novak's terrific start of the season all this "since 1990" is kinda stupid to me,better expand it to open era when comparing stats IMO.

Action Jackson
03-25-2011, 11:28 AM
As much as I'm impressed with Novak's terrific start of the season all this "since 1990" is kinda stupid to me,better expand it to open era when comparing stats IMO.

Good call there.

duong
03-25-2011, 11:41 AM
With all of these colloquial titles, you've got reactions like Laurie's yesterday escaping words like "Djokovic has had the longest winning-streak ever" while well there have been numerous 30+ winning streaks.

Just add "since the 1st of january" then "since 1990" and the result is done, but people easily forget these "since" :shrug:

what's the specific interest of the "start of the season" ? because people easily think of expanding this span to the whole year ...

But well
in 2007, Fed was the "Goat" in Australia, he had never been at such a summit of appraisal after also a long winning-streak from the end of previous year,
in 2008 Djokovic had a great start winning in Australia (losing only one set) and Indian wells (crushing Nadal), winning Roma as well, and many talked of him as the number 1 to come and surely number 2 (missed many chances of becoming number 2 by losing to Nadal),
in 2009 it was all Nadal winning in Australia and Indian Wells and reaching the highest number of ATP points he's ever had (near to Fed's 2006 total),
in 2010 it was all Fed who had won 3 of the last 4 slams and reached the final of the fourth one and many people talking of the "weeks at number 1 record" as a given.

And then what for the rest of the year ?

Often the Australian open appeared more as the following of previous year than really a print of the year to come.
There are numerous examples in the past, even with Courier 1993, Becker 1996, Lendl 1990 ...

In 2008 and 2009 the winner in Australia also won in Indian Wells.

Djokovic is in the following of the Davis cup

etc etc ...

The core of a year in tennis is quite short actually : it's in summer from the clay swing to the US Open. This is where everything is determined and often players also keep their form from the beginning to the end of that period.

Quite often the players succeeding in that period are not the same who succeeded in the beginning of the year.

If I had a bet to make it would surely be on Nadal ;)

Super Djoker
03-25-2011, 11:54 AM
2011 Federer 1.630 points Djokovic 3.500 points. Head to head. Djokovic 3 Federer 0 . Djokovic 7 sets Federer 1. Keep Dreaming Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. The Djokes on U!;)

Super Djoker
03-25-2011, 11:56 AM
Make it 18, Nole :worship:

You Mean 19! 18 already

duong
03-25-2011, 11:57 AM
2011 Federer 1.630 points Djokovic 3.500 points. Head to head. Djokovic 3 Federer 0 . Djokovic 7 sets Federer 1. Keep Dreaming Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. The Djokes on U!;)

I don't understand Djokovic's fans' obsession about Federer :rolleyes: , whereas their main opponent is clearly Nadal :shrug:

Who broke Djokovic's confidence in 2008 ? Nadal (Hamburg, RG, Queens : in all of these occasions Djokovic was playing for number 2 and Nadal nearly looked as the challenger -really this time, not only in his words-, esp in Hamburg ... but Nadal broke his confidence)

In 2009 remember about Monte-Carlo, Roma, Madrid and the following ?

Who is the young number 1, winner of 3 out of 4 last slams ? Nadal.

Fed goes his way, I don't understand why people keep shouting at him, but I don't get how old fighter would bother you when Nadal is there :shrug:

Super Djoker
03-25-2011, 12:17 PM
That,s fair enough! I am not foolish enough to think Federer is as fit or as good as he was in 2007. So i know Djokovic is beating Federer while he is on a very slow decline. The Obession with federer is surounding Djokovic,s Number 2 Ranking. Oviously I want Djokovic to maintain it till the French so he wouldent have to meet Rafa till the final. That,s what it,s all about. staying number 2 till the French. Federer will have a dip. so will Djokovic . The key is who recovers quickest.

n8
03-25-2011, 12:23 PM
As much as I'm impressed with Novak's terrific start of the season all this "since 1990" is kinda stupid to me,better expand it to open era when comparing stats IMO.

That's exactly what I tried to do in my latest article: http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/winning-streaks-start-season

Data on ATPWorldTour.com isn't so good before the late 70s and I mention that in my article. But even given that McEnroe has the longest streak to start the season (42 in 1984) followed by Borg (33 in 1980)*. But no year to date streak longer than Djokovic's includes a Grand Slam.

* Only players that played all top level events (Grand Slams, Masters Series/ Masters 1000s and Masters/ World Tour Finals) were considered (but I don't think it makes any difference to the record).

I know I got a lot of flack for it, but there is good reason to only compare seasons 1990 onwards, most notably the composition of the tour, which is why I did that in my first article.

duong
03-25-2011, 01:51 PM
That,s fair enough! I am not foolish enough to think Federer is as fit or as good as he was in 2007. So i know Djokovic is beating Federer while he is on a very slow decline. The Obession with federer is surounding Djokovic,s Number 2 Ranking. Oviously I want Djokovic to maintain it till the French so he wouldent have to meet Rafa till the final. That,s what it,s all about. staying number 2 till the French. Federer will have a dip. so will Djokovic . The key is who recovers quickest.

I don't think you should be that afraid of Federer ;)

clay is coming and he doesn't have much game to compete on that surface anymore whereas Djokovic loves that surface, and to be number 2 seed in RG, Fed should do better than Djokovic on clay.

I believe Djokovic's aim is higher than number 2 now, and he has a real chance for that, it all depends on Nadal ;)

Apophis
03-25-2011, 02:18 PM
With all of these colloquial titles, you've got reactions like Laurie's yesterday escaping words like "Djokovic has had the longest winning-streak ever" while well there have been numerous 30+ winning streaks.

Just add "since the 1st of january" then "since 1990" and the result is done, but people easily forget these "since" :shrug:

what's the specific interest of the "start of the season" ? because people easily think of expanding this span to the whole year ...

But well
in 2007, Fed was the "Goat" in Australia, he had never been at such a summit of appraisal after also a long winning-streak from the end of previous year,
in 2008 Djokovic had a great start winning in Australia (losing only one set) and Indian wells (crushing Nadal), winning Roma as well, and many talked of him as the number 1 to come and surely number 2 (missed many chances of becoming number 2 by losing to Nadal),
in 2009 it was all Nadal winning in Australia and Indian Wells and reaching the highest number of ATP points he's ever had (near to Fed's 2006 total),
in 2010 it was all Fed who had won 3 of the last 4 slams and reached the final of the fourth one and many people talking of the "weeks at number 1 record" as a given.

And then what for the rest of the year ?

Often the Australian open appeared more as the following of previous year than really a print of the year to come.
There are numerous examples in the past, even with Courier 1993, Becker 1996, Lendl 1990 ...

In 2008 and 2009 the winner in Australia also won in Indian Wells.

Djokovic is in the following of the Davis cup

etc etc ...

The core of a year in tennis is quite short actually : it's in summer from the clay swing to the US Open. This is where everything is determined and often players also keep their form from the beginning to the end of that period.

Quite often the players succeeding in that period are not the same who succeeded in the beginning of the year.

If I had a bet to make it would surely be on Nadal ;)

Thanks for providing the historical context. :)
And yes things are shaping up for a Nadal-Djokovic rivalry over the next few months. Federer is still present very prominently but atm as the underdog. The focus will be on the top 2, but Federer can return in top form any time, like he did the fall of 2010.

JanKowalski
03-25-2011, 02:43 PM
There's no such thing as a season in tennis, the "start of the year" streak and "year end" No. 1 are irrelevant stats.

MIMIC
05-09-2011, 08:45 AM
ESPN says that he's 2nd to John McEnroe's 42-0 start in 1984

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=6507144

velikikomsa@gmai
05-09-2011, 09:43 AM
That,s fair enough! I am not foolish enough to think Federer is as fit or as good as he was in 2007. So i know Djokovic is beating Federer while he is on a very slow decline. The Obession with federer is surounding Djokovic,s Number 2 Ranking. Oviously I want Djokovic to maintain it till the French so he wouldent have to meet Rafa till the final. That,s what it,s all about. staying number 2 till the French. Federer will have a dip. so will Djokovic . The key is who recovers quickest.

Most of Federer's wins against Djokovic came when Djokovic was at beginning of his career.

TennisGrandSlam
05-09-2011, 10:28 AM
According to ATP Profile, Bjorn Borg is 28 streak winning since beginning of season 1980 (lost to Guillermo Vilas in National Cup semi-final)

Note that:

1. Both Bjorn Borg and Guillermo Vilas are KIng of Clay, but actually Bjorn Borg is Guillermo Vilas killer (H2H : Borg 17-5 Vilas. For twice Roland Garros finals, Borg could sweep Vilas.)

2. Nationals Cup is not ATP tournaments, but is World Team Cup now, still counted as ATP records. (Nationals Cup plays on Clay)

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Bo/B/Bjorn-Borg.aspx?t=pa&y=1980&m=s&e=0

McEnroe 1984 : first 39 matches win
Djokovic 2011 : first 32 matches win (running)
Borg 1980 : first 27 matches win
Sampras 1997 : first 17 matches win
Federer 2006 : first 16 matches win

TennisGrandSlam
05-09-2011, 10:31 AM
That's exactly what I tried to do in my latest article: http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/winning-streaks-start-season

Data on ATPWorldTour.com isn't so good before the late 70s and I mention that in my article. But even given that McEnroe has the longest streak to start the season (42 in 1984) followed by Borg (33 in 1980)*. But no year to date streak longer than Djokovic's includes a Grand Slam.

* Only players that played all top level events (Grand Slams, Masters Series/ Masters 1000s and Masters/ World Tour Finals) were considered (but I don't think it makes any difference to the record).

I know I got a lot of flack for it, but there is good reason to only compare seasons 1990 onwards, most notably the composition of the tour, which is why I did that in my first article.

McEnroe hold first 39 streak winning record in 1984.

42 winning record includes 3 win in Masters 1983.

BlueSwan
05-09-2011, 10:42 AM
I'm not a big Djokovic fan, but I think this streak is better than McEnroes in 1984. Djokovic' streak includes a grand slam and 3-0 ownage of both Federer and Nadal, who's had a strangehold on the game for the last 7-8 years. McEnroe's streak DID include 4-0 ownage of Ivan Lendl - a player than McEnroe generally struggled with but held a 10-2 record against during the 1983-84 period, but crucially did not include a Grand Slam. However, had McEnroe won that infamous 1984 RG final (he was up 2-0 in sets) against Lendl, his streak would have been out of this world, as he continued his rampage until strangely losing in the first round of Cincy against Vijay Amritraj.

Super Djoker
05-09-2011, 10:51 AM
Your actually Wrong i think! I heard Borg went 33-0 at the start of one year and i also heard Mcinroe wasent 39-0 before he lost, he was 42-0! So still a bit to do before it,s the second longest ever!

TennisGrandSlam
05-09-2011, 10:57 AM
I'm not a big Djokovic fan, but I think this streak is better than McEnroes in 1984. Djokovic' streak includes a grand slam and 3-0 ownage of both Federer and Nadal, who's had a strangehold on the game for the last 7-8 years. McEnroe's streak DID include 4-0 ownage of Ivan Lendl - a player than McEnroe generally struggled with but held a 10-2 record against during the 1983-84 period, but crucially did not include a Grand Slam. However, had McEnroe won that infamous 1984 RG final (he was up 2-0 in sets) against Lendl, his streak would have been out of this world, as he continued his rampage until strangely losing in the first round of Cincy against Vijay Amritraj.

McEnroe won many Finals over Lendl, but the winning straek ended by Lendl in Roland Garros 1984. :devil:

McEnroe 39 winning straek w/o GS title is also a blemish. :o

Lopez
05-09-2011, 11:00 AM
Yeah the different stats apparently have everything to do with the fact that the Masters was played at the start of the year.

Back then AO was played in December I think so JMac skipping AO isn't really a factor considering streaks starting at the beginning of the year.

Super Djoker
05-09-2011, 11:04 AM
http://www.itftennis.com/mens/players/activity.asp?player=10000894
The answer is 42



Really 42? That,s just ILL! LOL

Super Djoker
05-09-2011, 11:06 AM
Borg 33-0 aswell!

Grunge
05-09-2011, 12:45 PM
There is difference between calendar year and tennis year. Djokovic have the second best streak to start the season (32 compared to 39 from Mac). Masters (today YEC) does not count in current season, but in the previous one.

Super Djoker
09-14-2011, 05:33 PM
Oo so close 41!

Super Djoker
09-14-2011, 05:36 PM
So close

finishingmove
09-14-2011, 05:36 PM
7*