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Everko
06-12-2009, 03:57 PM
he will have a good grass season and lose in Wimby early. Like Nadal on clay season or Monfils in the Aussie ghard courts season. or simon lasy year on the us hard courts.

Too much success in tune ups equals loss early in major.

rocketassist
06-12-2009, 04:00 PM
Yep, poor Federer and all his early losses in Wimbledon after winning Halle so many times, and Nadal's failure to take his clay court TMS wins into RG.

Murray is doomed I tell thee.

born_on_clay
06-12-2009, 04:01 PM
I don't think so
Queens is just one tournament

Goldenoldie
06-12-2009, 04:03 PM
Yes he will, and no he won't

zcess81
06-12-2009, 04:12 PM
Yep, poor Federer and all his early losses in Wimbledon after winning Halle so many times, and Nadal's failure to take his clay court TMS wins into RG.

Murray is doomed I tell thee.

Comparing Murray to Federer is pointless?

What Fed/Nadal was/is able to do is irrelevant and does not apply to the rest of the tour.

McAlistar
06-12-2009, 04:16 PM
Not with the home support, Murray rarely gets the support of the crowd and this will make him even more formidable than normal.

MatchFederer
06-12-2009, 04:17 PM
Yep, poor Federer and all his early losses in Wimbledon after winning Halle so many times, and Nadal's failure to take his clay court TMS wins into RG.

Murray is doomed I tell thee.

Good analysis.

green25814
06-12-2009, 04:24 PM
Comparing Murray to Federer is pointless?

What Fed/Nadal was/is able to do is irrelevant and does not apply to the rest of the tour.

Federer and Nadal arent gods you know.

zcess81
06-12-2009, 04:26 PM
Federer and Nadal arent gods you know.

Tenniswise they are. I don't know how anyone can refute that fact.

green25814
06-12-2009, 04:30 PM
Tenniswise they are. I don't know how anyone can refute that fact.

No they arent. They are humans. Its really very simple.

zcess81
06-12-2009, 04:33 PM
No they arent. They are humans. Its really very simple.

I'm afraid I'm gonna need autopsy results. Until then they are gods and not human!

Everko
06-12-2009, 05:36 PM
The pressure will be too much in fron tof the British crowd. He dosen't realise it yet

blank_frackis
06-12-2009, 06:05 PM
It's not as if winning Queens would represent a tremendous achievement for him - a stroll to the final to meet (perhaps) Roddick who he usually destroys with ease. Winning Queens might sound important given no British player has won there in the open era, but in reality he'd struggle not to win it if he played at 70-80% of his best.

Forehander
06-12-2009, 06:09 PM
He won't lose early in Wimbledon.

nanoman
06-12-2009, 06:11 PM
He'll win Queens with his eyes closed.
He will not lose Wimbledon early. Ónly Nadal is able to beat him in Wimbledon.

Burrow
06-12-2009, 06:18 PM
The pressure will be too much in fron tof the British crowd. He dosen't realise it yet

He actually used the crowd to his advantage last year. :retard:

decrepitude
06-12-2009, 06:54 PM
Too much success in tune ups equals loss early in major.

You do know that pre-Federer, the one who won Queens was very often the one who won Wimbledon? And Federer won the other tune-up, Halle, instead.

zcess81
06-12-2009, 07:06 PM
He'll win Queens with his eyes closed.
He will not lose Wimbledon early. Ónly Nadal is able to beat him in Wimbledon.

You're talking out of your ass, man. There are quite a few guys who are more than capable of beating Murray at Wimbledon.

Henry Kaspar
06-12-2009, 07:26 PM
he will have a good grass season and lose in Wimby early. Like Nadal on clay season or Monfils in the Aussie ghard courts season. or simon lasy year on the us hard courts.

Too much success in tune ups equals loss early in major.yes, as Nadal's fate last year proves beyond doubt.

HeretiC
06-12-2009, 07:36 PM
Wasn't this dexon dude on a perma ban? :eek:

Certinfy
03-18-2011, 10:16 PM
This better not get deleted by the mods. Just bump this in 3 and a half months.

KaiserT
03-18-2011, 10:17 PM
Karlovic vs Anderson final

Certinfy
03-18-2011, 10:18 PM
Much more likely than Federer ever making a Wimbledon Final again for sure, so yeah I'm going with that final as well. Knowing the fucking organisers they'll fix the draw and make it a R1 match though, either way we'll all know it's the real final.

oranges
03-18-2011, 10:21 PM
I suggest you bet your house on it. As a bonus, make another no-sex promise :p

Certinfy
03-18-2011, 10:22 PM
Lets not forget Lu though, I do believe he might be a real contender if he plays the way he did last year, with luck he won't be in the same half as Anderson and Karlovic though.

Certinfy
03-18-2011, 10:23 PM
I suggest you bet your house on it. As a bonus, make another no-sex promise :p
I don't own a house :lol: And fine I will, nearer to the time though, just need to make sure Karlovic gets into the MD at Wimbledon first before I go to extreme matters. :p

KaiserT
03-18-2011, 10:25 PM
Schuettler may also be primed for another run.

vn01
03-18-2011, 10:32 PM
Raonic will win it defeating Karlovic 7-6 6-7 7-6 6-7 71-69 in the final :worship:

Hellraiser
03-18-2011, 10:41 PM
Raonić is better underdog to bet on.

Johnny Groove
03-18-2011, 10:50 PM
Isner will win Roland Garros too.

Certinfy
03-18-2011, 10:51 PM
Isner will win Roland Garros too.
Negative. Capdeville is taking that.

Bilbo
03-18-2011, 10:51 PM
Not going for Berdych this time? :scratch:

Certinfy
03-18-2011, 10:51 PM
Not going for Berdych this time? :scratch:
Karlovic is beating Berdych in the QF.

ossie
03-19-2011, 12:37 AM
the inevitability of rafa winning wimbledon must have caused you to hallucinate because karlovic aint winning shit.

Snowwy
03-19-2011, 01:01 AM
Who will win Wimbledon.

paseo
03-19-2011, 01:04 AM
What the..? There's a slam between now and Wimbledon, you know. The Nole Open.

Armless
03-19-2011, 01:06 AM
What the..? There's a slam between now and Wimbledon, you know. The Nole Open.
Serbia Open is not a slam, yet.

yuri27
03-19-2011, 01:07 AM
Wimbledon 1/2 finals this year:

Federer-Gasquet
Nadal-Murray

Snowwy
03-19-2011, 01:11 AM
What the..? There's a slam between now and Wimbledon, you know. The Nole Open.

Exactly, and there is a thread for it already. And for Wimbledon, this will be the only thread. We will not have each poster making his/her own thread saying Player A will win Wimbledon. If you have to talk about Wimbledon, its in here. :wavey:

viruzzz
03-19-2011, 01:14 AM
Why is Delpo in that poll?
Delpo sucks on grass.

LocoPorElTenis
03-19-2011, 01:20 AM
Ivo over Oscar Hernandez in the final.

Snowwy
03-19-2011, 01:22 AM
Why is Delpo in that poll?
Delpo sucks on grass.

Who is more deserving?

GSMnadal
03-19-2011, 01:27 AM
Went with the joker in that predict the next million slam winners + the olympic champion thread, and i'm sticking with it. Although Nadal might be the favourite, I think he's there for the taking on grass.

Certinfy
03-19-2011, 01:27 AM
Karlovic.

alter ego
03-19-2011, 01:31 AM
Pointless thread. Wimbledon is going to get cancel this year after Isner and Mahut will play non-stop tennis for 48 days.

cocrcici
03-19-2011, 01:33 AM
Querrey

Mountaindewslave
03-19-2011, 01:36 AM
Nadallllllll!!!!!

yuri27
03-19-2011, 01:36 AM
Who is more deserving?

Gasquet for example.
He is a FAR more proven player than Del Potro on grass (2 titles,1 Wimbledon 1/2 final,wins against Soderling,Ancic,Roddick,Tsonga).

DrJules
03-19-2011, 01:38 AM
Wimbledon 1/2 finals this year:

Federer-Gasquet
Nadal-Murray

On grass probably not impossible if the draw allows it.

Grass is so different from other surfaces and only has a 4 week season so does favour those who ave reached Wimbledon semi-finals previously.

DrJules
03-19-2011, 01:39 AM
Nadal.

Give him the edge over Federer on the green stuff.

Snowwy
03-19-2011, 01:40 AM
Gasquet for example.
He is a FAR more proven player than Del Potro on grass (2 titles,1 Wimbledon 1/2 final,wins against Soderling,Cilic,Roddick,Tsonga).

Thanks for your opinion, oddsmakers tend to agree with me, they say Del Potro has a three times greater chance of winning than Richie.

156mphserve
03-19-2011, 02:46 AM
James Ward

Pirata.
03-19-2011, 03:43 AM
Lopez-Gasquet final when they were both playing in their peaks circa 2007 :sobbing:

Pirata.
03-19-2011, 03:48 AM
Nadal.

Give him the edge over Federer on the green stuff.

The edge? Their grass H2H will be tied at 2-2 with no real comparative results. Peak Fed vs Teenage Nadal and Peak Fed vs Emerging Star Nadal / Peak Nadal vs Slump Fed and Post-Peak Nadal vs Olderer

No edge, just weird transition matches.

rofe
03-19-2011, 03:54 AM
I squarely blame Clay Death for this thread.

Topspindoctor
03-19-2011, 05:02 AM
What's Del Potro doing on the list? His biggest challenge making it past the second round, not contending for the title.

River
03-19-2011, 05:53 AM
Roddick's got this. :armed::boxing::rocker:

shiaben
03-19-2011, 06:32 AM
Main competitors: Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, Roddick, Hewitt, Soderling, Berdych, and Murray.

Players that will be probably the most important to look for: Nadal (looked impeccable last year), Federer, Djokovic (continues to make deep runs, I expect him to enter with a new attitude), Murray, and Berdych.

Assuming all are healthy and sound, this is my idea.

Verdasco/Tsonga, I don't think will reach the QFs for some reason. Not sure why.

Davydenko/Del Potro, won't go far, 3rd round tops perhaps.

Roddick- his game has dropped, needs to start considering retirement, he'll be a non-factor like he was at the last Australian Open 2011.

Soderling- he's beginning to worry me... mentally not there at all. Not sure what's going on with him as of late. He could reach the QF's but I think he'll get surprised this year.

Hewitt- will continue to annoy players and surprise some.

Melzer- might annoy some players as well.

The 8 to reach the quarterfinals assuming reasonably defeatable opponents:

1. Federer- without a doubt.
2. Nadal- without a doubt.
3. Djokovic- without a doubt.
4. Ferrer- I believe for the first time he'll reach there. He's been working hard, if JC Ferrero has made deep runs here, I don't see why Ferrer would not.
5. Berdych- I think he's got enough to take him to the QF unless he gets surprised by a good player in the 4th.
6. Murray- without a doubt.
7. Wawrinka- might BS his way through an easy draw.
8. Youzhny as long as he's healthy.

(These 8 are probably likely given that months from now, players will be in different levels, and I'll have to pick a fresh 8 with half of these guys on here).

I'll predict the two finalist the week before the tournament, given that all the ATP players will have underdone radical changes by then.

locyka19
03-19-2011, 08:36 AM
Why stupid people overrate Karlovic? Slam level he has no chance, he played very good tennis there in IW, but come on....seems like you people easily call anybody a slam favorite after a good run. It's a joke. Anyway, hope Roddick can reach the final this year again, and finally make it big.

River
03-19-2011, 08:41 AM
I don't get how players who have consistently stayed in the top 10 should consider retirement... wtf?

locyka19
03-19-2011, 08:52 AM
I don't get how players who have consistently stayed in the top 10 should consider retirement... wtf?

The guy who wrote this (Roddick retirement) is a total nonsense. He thinks if he organize the whole text and write "smart expert like" things down, that makes him an expert.haha.

locyka19
03-19-2011, 08:54 AM
I don't get how players who have consistently stayed in the top 10 should consider retirement... wtf?

Plus this guy wrote Soderling is worrying him. pfff what a non sense. Soderling won 3 titles this year so far and plays a very solid tennis. He's out of IW because of injury.Mental weakness????? wtf?? He is strong mentally I think. I hate when people talking about the future because of one lost match....OMG

Tennis Coach Stu
03-21-2011, 11:43 AM
Interesting to note in the poll, of 35 votes no one says Murray. Why so? If he reaches a Grand Slam final will he ever win a set?
Djokovic in 4.

Sonja1989
03-21-2011, 11:48 AM
Nadal will win Wimbledon again... :)

Blackbriar
03-21-2011, 11:55 AM
Richard Gasquet

oranges
03-21-2011, 12:30 PM
Richard Gasquet

Playing Wimbledon at all for a change would be a start :sobbing:

Nadull_tard
03-21-2011, 04:33 PM
Funny, people are giving the trophy to Nadull already, as If it was clay court slam. Last year Wimbledon showed Nadal is very vulnerable on this surface, even mugs like Haase or Petschner can win sets against him.

Federer playing like in WTF 2010 would easily beat Nadal.

tealeaves
03-21-2011, 04:34 PM
Del Potro needs to redeem himself on Grass. Black horse prediction.
Djokovic ~ Federer > Nadal > Del Potro > Murray > Roddick

Mountaindewslave
04-10-2011, 11:52 PM
do you think Roddick can win Wimbledon this year? I really hope he does because if not this year I feel like each year it's just going to get less and less likely. Certainly if he managed to do so, it would be enough for him to be satisfied with his legacy, probably a tennis void in him would be filled. I really want this to happen and I just have a feeling it might this year. Certainly there is a lot of competition on tour but I've never seen a player who seemed so determined and involved in wanting something. You have a player like Andy Murray who hypothetically you would think would want to win Wimbledon more than anyone because of his origins and the pressure from his family and friends and nation and you have players who state is as their dreams, but the feeling of desire and intent you get from Andy Roddick about winning the title is just so much stronger than anyone else. I really hope he can win it before career ends and for some odd reason I get a feeling he might be able to do it this year, esspecially because his kryptonite at this event over the years (Roger Federer) is a shadow of his former self. do you think he can manage to do it this year, or let alone sometime throughout his career? your thoughts?

NadalYoung
04-11-2011, 12:16 AM
Nadal def Roddick, after which Roddick retires


In my eyes chances go

Nadal>Roddick>Federer>Berdych>Murray>Djokovic>Mugs

Topspindoctor
04-11-2011, 03:40 AM
Nadal def Roddick, after which Roddick retires


In my eyes chances go

Nadal>Roddick>Federer>Berdych>Murray>Djokovic>Mugs

:haha:

Duck above Olderer?

Clay Death
04-11-2011, 03:56 AM
i believe that it comes down to 3 players:

1. clay warrior king
2. nole the barbarian
3. the great swiss assasin


**i give the edge to the clay warrior king.

rocketassist
04-11-2011, 04:05 AM
Karlovic will get a WC and when the grass is at its quickest on the first couple of days, no top guy will want to face him. I hope Nadal draws him (not worried about Djoko or Del Pony, they're not winning here and never will)

rocketassist
04-11-2011, 04:05 AM
i believe that it comes down to 3 players:

1. clay warrior king
2. nole the barbarian
3. the great swiss assasin


**i give the edge to the clay warrior king.

At Wimbledon? Nah.

rocketassist
04-11-2011, 04:07 AM
Del Potro needs to redeem himself on Grass. Black horse prediction.
Djokovic ~ Federer > Nadal > Del Potro > Murray > Roddick

:spit: :haha:

Snowwy
04-11-2011, 04:27 AM
:spit: :haha:

I think Roddick could still win here.

Xristos
04-11-2011, 05:02 AM
Nadal.

abraxas21
04-11-2011, 05:24 AM
I think Roddick could still win here.

i think he'll do it in 2012

ivanisevic style

LawrenceOfTennis
04-29-2011, 10:08 PM
There were some threads with similar titles and so forth but there are changes in the pack. I still believe Federer is the favorite for the title. Tip the last 8.

asmazif
04-29-2011, 10:31 PM
Nadal-Lopez
Federer-Soderling
Murray-Berdych
Djokovic-Roddick

Fairly standard, basically.

br.w
04-29-2011, 10:35 PM
Nadal
Tsonga
Berdych
Murray
Federer
Roddick
Melzer
Djokovic

tyruk14
04-29-2011, 10:36 PM
Nadal - Roddick
Federer - Berdych
Murray - Gasquet
Djokovic - Karlovic

Johnny Groove
04-29-2011, 10:41 PM
Usually I start these threads after the tournament draw has come out, and before the first matches have taken place.

Bit early for Wimbledon, mate.

Li Ching Yuen
04-29-2011, 10:49 PM
Predict the last 14 of Umag 2013 pls !!!!!

Certinfy
04-29-2011, 10:57 PM
Nadal
Federer
Berdych
Djokovic
Murray
Roddick
Karlovic
Tsonga

alter ego
04-29-2011, 11:04 PM
Mug vs clown
Chocker vs ballbasher
cheater vs doper
pusher vs all serve

I predict mug to win Wimbledon!

Johnny Groove
04-29-2011, 11:07 PM
Mug vs clown
Chocker vs ballbasher
cheater vs doper
pusher vs all serve

I predict mug to win Wimbledon!

Roger Federer vs Fernando Verdasco
Richard Gasquet vs Robin Soderling
Rafael Nadal vs Novak Djokovic
Andy Murray vs Andy Roddick

So you predict Federer :yeah:

alter ego
04-29-2011, 11:11 PM
Looks like I'm busted. :sad:

Li Ching Yuen
04-29-2011, 11:13 PM
So who's the doper between Nadal and Djokovic?

You know, just so that we're sure...

navy75
04-29-2011, 11:14 PM
I will gladly give anyone 10-1 that they cannot accurately predict the Wimbledon QFs at this point. We can set it up through one of the exchange books.

This thread is ridiculously premature, and it is absurd that some posters are even trying to answer. If you all are unaware, Wimbledon uses a different seeding system that takes into account grass points accrued in the prior two years. In other words, no one knows how the hell the final seeding will take place, no one knows how the draws will stack up, and then you have to accurate predict the winners on top of that.

Again, anyone thinking that this is a legitimate thread to be responding to in late April is more than welcome to book at 10-1 odds through me...

romismak
04-29-2011, 11:17 PM
Are you serious? Before the draw is impossible to predict - and Wimbledon seeds the players by themselves , so even if you know ranking day before Wimbledon it is useless. But i will say Rafa- Roger will be there 100%

LawrenceOfTennis
04-29-2011, 11:25 PM
I will gladly give anyone 10-1 that they cannot accurately predict the Wimbledon QFs at this point. We can set it up through one of the exchange books.

This thread is ridiculously premature, and it is absurd that some posters are even trying to answer. If you all are unaware, Wimbledon uses a different seeding system that takes into account grass points accrued in the prior two years. In other words, no one knows how the hell the final seeding will take place, no one knows how the draws will stack up, and then you have to accurate predict the winners on top of that.

Again, anyone thinking that this is a legitimate thread to be responding to in late April is more than welcome to book at 10-1 odds through me...

You're right. But you misunderstood something. I know the draw's not out yet and it's impossible to predict correctly because of the seeding etc. but the thing I wanted to know is that who are the 8 players whom members consider the favorites on grass, this years possibly slow grass.

Johnny Groove
04-29-2011, 11:41 PM
The books have:

Nadal
Federer
Djokovic
Murray
Del Potro
Soderling
Berdych
Roddick

as the top 8 faves.

Mateya
04-30-2011, 12:02 AM
Nadal
Tsonga
Berdych
Murray
Federer
Roddick
Melzer
Djokovic

Rafito and Federror are the favs obviously.
Then Muzza and Djoker (who doesn't enjoy grass too much, but still).

Clownga should be happy with reaching 3rd round. :crazy:
Berdych is far from his best, can lose earlier.
Roddick (or what's left of him) should reach QF.
Melzer on grass, no go :)

But hey, Roland Garros first.

Clay Death
04-30-2011, 12:39 AM
The books have:

Nadal
Federer
Djokovic
Murray
Del Potro
Soderling
Berdych
Roddick

as the top 8 faves.

take sod, d-pot, roddick, and murray out of the equation. they are not going far at wimbledon. i just dont see it.

Topspindoctor
04-30-2011, 02:13 AM
The books have:

Nadal
Federer
Djokovic
Murray
Del Potro
Soderling
Berdych
Roddick

as the top 8 faves.

Del Potro has no business being amongst one of the favorites on grass.

Brick Top
04-30-2011, 02:42 AM
Roddick to finally pull one!

Clay Death
04-30-2011, 02:53 AM
only 3 players can decide this:

1. clay warrior
2. the great serbian slayer
3. the great swiss assasin


**my pick: i think the clay warrior will be going to town once he snatches 4 matches there.

so get him early or its no cigar.

Chase Visa
04-30-2011, 03:47 AM
My (very early) QF predictions

Nadal d. Melzer
Murray d. Karlovic
Federer d. Raonic
Djokovic d. Roddick

Nadal d. Murray
Federer d. Djokovic

Federer d. Nadal

(Hey why not? I've got a gut feel Fed can win 1 more slam in his career, and it might as well be at Wimbledon, as Djoker probably won't let him win any more HC slams).

Obviously this'll change as the draw comes out. Hewitt might surprise, but knowing him he'll draw one of the top 4 seeds in the 1st round. I suppose Berdych might be a chance if he gets a good draw (which is quite likely as he made the final last year), but whatever.

EDIT: Crap, forgot about Milos - swap him for Soderling.

LinkMage
04-30-2011, 06:32 AM
Seems like people are so bored of the snoozefest clay season that they have already started to talk about the grass season.

Start da Game
04-30-2011, 09:23 AM
clay god

Horatio Caine
04-30-2011, 09:47 AM
If Nadal and Djokovic continue to fight to the death with each other (in the battle for supremacy) over Madrid, Rome and Roland Garros, it is quite possible that they will be a little vulnerable at Wimbledon. :shrug: Certainly Nadal didn't look as assured in Monte Carlo and Barcelona, despite still winning the titles.

If both are suffering, it does open the door a little for Fed to reclaim his Wimbledon crown, assuming he doesn't fall to a big hitter earlier on.

Hoping Muzza will go deep again, although I do believe that he is overrated on grass. Last year's Wimbledon was ridiculous, and he'll surely have a more challenging draw this time around.

Milky Orange
04-30-2011, 10:01 AM
Don't know why but I've a feeling Nadal won't win Wimbledon this year. Don't kill me if I'm wrong... There are plenty of other guys who can bother him on grass...

I would be more than happy is someone outside of Top3 actually wins Wimbledon or any other GS this year... For the sake of tennis, of course... it's so freaking boring to see the same name(s) every single year...

TheRafaelNadal
06-03-2011, 08:58 PM
I reckon he'll win it this year. The former God of Grass is playing the tennis of his life. Some of thos shots were old Federer like.

DorianGray7
06-03-2011, 09:08 PM
Is this a troll thread? Your name suggests you're only starting this to get Rafa-tards to pile in talk about how Rafa destroys everyone on grass.

yesh222
06-03-2011, 09:11 PM
Fed is playing amazing on clay right now, but I'm not sure that his play right now translates so well to grass. He is always a good shot to win it though.

Silvester
06-03-2011, 09:12 PM
depends which Fed shows up when it matters.

rafa_maniac
06-03-2011, 09:14 PM
Possibly. These days it's a total crapshoot whether Federer will turn up in form to win a GS or not.

PiggyGotRoasted
06-03-2011, 09:27 PM
The thread by his detergents has vanished
http://www.hiwtc.com/photo/products/5/01/29/12900.jpg

Clay Death
06-04-2011, 02:12 AM
wimbledon is almost here now. some of the players are already practicing on grass.

nadal and fed will have training sessions lined up for monday. queens and halle events will come and go before you can even blink.

lets get this party started. who are the early favorites this year?

can nole make a difference there? he has indicated his desire to win wimbledon this year.

and what about murray and the clay warrior? how far will they go?

is this fed`s last big dance? can he snatch the title?

finally who will be the wimbledon surprise?

have at it. the floor is at your disposal.

Sauletekis
06-04-2011, 02:15 AM
Let RG be finished, please!

Clay Death
06-04-2011, 02:18 AM
what does RG have to do with wimbledon 2011? just 1 more match and RG is done.

everybody in the world is talking about wimbledon right now.

Clay Death
06-04-2011, 02:23 AM
wimbledon:

a place where nole starts another streak. how long will the next one last?

Orka_n
06-04-2011, 02:25 AM
This man to mess things up again:

http://2011.rolandgarros.com/images/pics/large/b_0527_Fognini01.jpg

Book it.

ballbasher101
06-04-2011, 02:26 AM
wimbledon is almost here now. some of the players are already practicing on grass.

nadal and fed will have training sessions lined up for monday. queens and halle events will come and go before you can even blink.

lets get this party started. who are the early favorites this year?

can nole make a difference there? he has indicated his desire to win wimbledon this year.

and what about murray and the clay warrior? how far will they go?

finally who will be the wimbledon surprise?

have at it. the floor is at your disposal.


From red clay to green clay :o. Hope clay monster gets Isner first round :devil:. Nadal is the favourite that's for sure. He will strike another psychological blow to Federer on sunday paving the way for another victory at SW19. The Djoker will recover mentally but not in time for Wimbledon. As for Muzza I can't see him going far, the ankle and the pressure will all be too much. Gasquet might go deep if he gets a good draw. Tsonga only plays well in Paris so he will not do much, plus his return game is awful thus he will struggle. Maybe Roddick is in a cave somewhere planning everyone's downfall at Wimbledon :lol:.

Clay Death
06-04-2011, 02:29 AM
This man to mess things up again:

http://2011.rolandgarros.com/images/pics/large/b_0527_Fognini01.jpg

Book it.

ah yes the crazy italian.

he should be useless on grass.

ballbasher101
06-04-2011, 02:30 AM
Let RG be finished, please!

RG is finished, we know the result on sunday so no need to dwell on the past. I might as well congratulate Rafa for a good tournament even though I'm not a fan of his :clap2:. He is a fighter I will give him that.

Clay Death
06-04-2011, 02:31 AM
From red clay to green clay :o. Hope clay monster gets Isner first round :devil:. Nadal is the favourite that's for sure. He will strike another psychological blow to Federer on sunday paving the way for another victory at SW19. The Djoker will recover mentally but not in time for Wimbledon. As for Muzza I can't see him going far, the ankle and the pressure will all be too much. Gasquet might go deep if he gets a good draw. Tsonga only plays well in Paris so he will not do much, plus his return game is awful thus he will struggle. Maybe Roddick is in a cave somewhere planning everyone's downfall at Wimbledon :lol:.



good points.

we have to remember that roddick can be tough on grass. he may be living on grass right now.

gasquet should may do well if the draw is kind.

ballbasher101
06-04-2011, 02:40 AM
wimbledon:

a place where nole starts another streak. how long will the next one last?


He did say his goal was to win Wimbledon this year but I can't see it happening. The match against Federer reminded me of how Nole moves on grass. He slips and slides all over the place, his movement on grass is good but not great. I was surprised to see him do a similar thing on clay yesterday. I think he is gone mentally hence he pulled out of Queens. He deserves a second major this year but it will not be at Wimbledon I'm fraid.

Clay Death
06-04-2011, 02:45 AM
He did say his goal was to win Wimbledon this year but I can't see it happening. The match against Federer reminded me of how Nole moves on grass. He slips and slides all over the place, his movement on grass is good but not great. I was surprised to see him do a similar thing on clay yesterday. I think he is gone mentally hence he pulled out of Queens. He deserves a second major this year but it will not be at Wimbledon I'm fraid.


i see.

some have said that his movement is suspect on grass.

also like you say, his confidence may have taken a hit.

we will just have to see how he responds at wimby.

he did handle the u.s open loss quite well.

Topspindoctor
06-04-2011, 02:47 AM
If Nadal wins RG tomorrow, he wins Wimbledon

If he doesn't win RG, then he won't win Wimbledon

jeremda01
06-04-2011, 02:50 AM
i think nole will make semis this year....nadal/fed final, andy will make quarters and lose to soderling or del potro or something like that, just my thoughts so far.

tests
06-04-2011, 03:01 AM
its prptty simplp if you ask mp. If nadal wins frpnch oppn, no onp is going to stop him from winning wimblpdon. NO ON ONP.

If fpd wins frpnch oppn (2 % chancp imho), than nadal will still bp thp favoritp (my lpttpr p is mpsspd up)

Getta
06-04-2011, 03:05 AM
(my lpttpr p is mpsspd up)

:rolls:

out_here_grindin
06-04-2011, 03:11 AM
Can Berdych find his form again to defend all those points?

Clay Death
06-04-2011, 03:14 AM
i had forgotten about berdych jeff.

he does have a ton of points to defend.

we will have to ask jase the ace of hearts about berdych.

is he playing the halle event?

ballbasher101
06-04-2011, 03:18 AM
Can Berdych find his form again to defend all those points?


The answer would be a big NO. Maybe he should adopt Federer's philosophy and strategy. Safarova should retire and takeover all of Berdych's affairs and let him concentrate on tennis. It is not sexist by the way :devil:.

Chase Visa
06-04-2011, 07:37 AM
i had forgotten about berdych jeff.

he does have a ton of points to defend.

we will have to ask jase the ace of hearts about berdych.

is he playing the halle event?

Yep.

DrJules
06-04-2011, 04:52 PM
Picked Nadal previously and now more certain.

A Federer exit in the semi-final to Djokovic at RG 2011 would have given him more time and a week at Halle to prepare for Wimbledon while Nadal and Djokovic exhaust themselves in a RG final. Federer's win last night probably has finished his chances of good preparation for Wimbledon while Nadal and Djokovic would have had theirs effected by the RG final.

jer468
06-05-2011, 12:23 AM
Picked Nadal previously and now more certain.

A Federer exit in the semi-final to Djokovic at RG 2011 would have given him more time and a week at Halle to prepare for Wimbledon while Nadal and Djokovic exhaust themselves in a RG final. Federer's win last night probably has finished his chances of good preparation for Wimbledon while Nadal and Djokovic would have had theirs effected by the RG final.

I wonder which of the 3 guys needs the most preparation ... I would guess that Federer needs the least. But now that Djoker is out of London, we know he'll be rested anyway.

dombrfc
06-05-2011, 12:25 AM
wimbledon:

a place where nole starts another streak. how long will the next one last?

5 matches or so

Hellraiser
06-05-2011, 11:00 AM
Federer or somebody else who gonna have a nice s&v in whole tournament.

Gagsquet
06-05-2011, 11:26 AM
Gasquet (if he plays) will make R4 obviously and could beat Murray and perhaps Djoko. But against Nadal or Fed, I cannot see him win.
If he could be in the part of draw of Djoko/Murray (Fedal in the other side), he will have a unique possibility to make a final. Optimistic I know but I will obviously draw Fedal in R4...

Fat Camel
06-05-2011, 11:31 AM
Probably one of the last chances for Xavier to make damage at Wimby.
He has a good form even on clay now, so if the draw is good, i hope for quaterfinals or at least 4th round. Match with Murray at Queen's will show a bit his chances.

Certinfy
06-05-2011, 11:40 AM
i had forgotten about berdych jeff.

he does have a ton of points to defend.

we will have to ask jase the ace of hearts about berdych.

is he playing the halle event?

Halle should be a good indicator of where his level is in a way, it's a weak draw until the SF or even Final so we'll see. Depending on his draw at Wimbledon I am expecting at least a QF though.

Pirao666
06-05-2011, 06:29 PM
He proved he can still play great tennis against Djokovic, gave Nadal quite some trouble in the final even though he's a terrible matchup for him, and grass is his best surface, what do you think?

EliSter
06-05-2011, 06:37 PM
No...

GSMnadal
06-05-2011, 06:37 PM
Yes, if his serve is clicking, he'll be almost impossible to break.

Pushing Rafa on clay must have given him some selfbelief for the grass season as well

Ibracadabra
06-05-2011, 06:38 PM
Of course he is.

rubbERR
06-05-2011, 06:38 PM
If Serverer shows up, if Olderer shows up he can lose journeyman in R1

romismak
06-05-2011, 06:45 PM
I think this can be most interresting Wimbledon in years. We have in my eyes 3 equal favorites for title- Djokovic will be rested and still his season record is 41-1 and i don´t expect like some people that his form will drop, i think he will be the same guy with consistent both wings and and confident player, than Federer - his form seems to be pretty good and his serve is very good, in my eyes he is now biggest favorit to win Wimbledon - i just can´t imagine him to loose so early like last year - it was just horrible Wimbledon for him - horrible form, even in 1st round he had troubles, but overall his record there is unbelievable so i think he will be in SF for sure and then the question is in which half in Nadal´s or Djokovic´s and of course Rafa, isn´t playing great but still 4x in row was in final of Wimbledon, this season besides that AO QF exit was loosing only to Djokovic. Hope Murray or Roddick will join them in SF.

MaxPower
06-05-2011, 06:46 PM
Soderling takes it. Time to end this ¤&%(!"# Fedal ¤&&"#. Need a new slam winner. And if Soderling doesn't win then I'm going to root for Djokovic/Murray/Del Potro/Berdych. No offense Federer i still like you and admire your skills but it's only gonna get worse from here. ATP needs a new Wimbledon winner!

Pirao666
06-05-2011, 06:48 PM
I think the thing that should give the most hope to Fed's fans is how he fought today against Nadal, every time he fell behind, he tried to break back immediately like a madman, he didn't give up like in other clay matches against Nadal.

MaxPower
06-05-2011, 06:48 PM
Love the 9 votes for Karlovic btw. Need to rig him vs Nadal in R1

iriraz
06-05-2011, 06:48 PM
Certainly the draw is a bigger factor here then at RG.
I doubt any of the top guys would like to get a first round match against an Isner or Karlovic.

Salvy41
06-05-2011, 06:53 PM
I think the thing that should give the most hope to Fed's fans is how he fought today against Nadal, every time he fell behind, he tried to break back immediately like a madman, he didn't give up like in other clay matches against Nadal.

Yeah you're right. Federer didn't become dejected as he usually does. It was good to see him really fighting and playing well but he just couldn't keep the level up consistently enough. His performance at Roland Garros should give him confidence.

Priam
06-05-2011, 07:05 PM
I don't think Wimbledon is that open tbh. It's gonna either be Federer or Nadal - as has been the case since 2003. :lol:

The draw will be interesting. I think Rafa will prefer getting Murray in his half as Fed's tools are looking sharp atm. If Fed gets Djokovic, it might be loss #2.

Possible spoilers: Roddick, Soderling, Berdych?,

madmax
06-05-2011, 07:32 PM
Isner - Nadull R1 again please:devil:

SerialKillerToBe
06-05-2011, 07:34 PM
How can Djokovic possibly have second most votes? He will never win Wimbledon with Rafa and Roger still alive.

jcadam2003
06-05-2011, 07:44 PM
I don't think Wimbledon is that open tbh. It's gonna either be Federer or Nadal - as has been the case since 2003. :lol:

The draw will be interesting. I think Rafa will prefer getting Murray in his half as Fed's tools are looking sharp atm. If Fed gets Djokovic, it might be loss #2.

Possible spoilers: Roddick, Soderling, Berdych?,

What makes you think that Novak will be the number 2 seed? The Wimbledon committee loves Roger and he has won the tournament 6 times. He will be seeded number 2 and Novak number 3

Jaz
06-05-2011, 07:47 PM
Federer won't make the final.

Don't think he'll recover from his loss today. It was such a mental breakdown.

FerrerAndNadal
06-05-2011, 08:01 PM
Possible Fedal Final given Federer will probably be seeded 2.

Jaz
06-05-2011, 08:03 PM
Possible Fedal Final given Federer will probably be seeded 2.

That's not possible.

romismak
06-05-2011, 08:15 PM
What makes you think that Novak will be the number 2 seed? The Wimbledon committee loves Roger and he has won the tournament 6 times. He will be seeded number 2 and Novak number 3

I am not sure if i am correct, but i think 2 last years are accepted to improove your ranking - so Federer has now 9230 points, Nole has 12 025 - Nole has almost 2800 points more and last 2 Wimbledons for Roger are QF and W, for Nole SF and QF. And for last year is i think 100% of points, but for 2009 is 50 or 75% of points, but there is no way Federer can get from his 2010 and 2009 Wimbledons at least 2800 points more than Nole. Some people are confused, because of last year when Roger was seeded as No. 1, instead of Rafa - who was No.1 in ATP ranking, but Rafa had only 200 points more or so in ATP ranking - and Roger had W-2009 and F-2008 plus and Rafa had 0 for 2009 and W for 2008 so those 200 points were easy overlooked, because of Roger´s last year succes. So i think Nole will be No.2 seeded, his lead is too big.

SheepleBuster
06-05-2011, 08:17 PM
I hope and pray to God Federer is not even at Wimbledon. Just take a break Roger. For like 100 years

Manequin75
06-05-2011, 08:32 PM
I am not sure if i am correct, but i think 2 last years are accepted to improove your ranking - so Federer has now 9230 points, Nole has 12 025 - Nole has almost 2800 points more and last 2 Wimbledons for Roger are QF and W, for Nole SF and QF. And for last year is i think 100% of points, but for 2009 is 50 or 75% of points, but there is no way Federer can get from his 2010 and 2009 Wimbledons at least 2800 points more than Nole. Some people are confused, because of last year when Roger was seeded as No. 1, instead of Rafa - who was No.1 in ATP ranking, but Rafa had only 200 points more or so in ATP ranking - and Roger had W-2009 and F-2008 plus and Rafa had 0 for 2009 and W for 2008 so those 200 points were easy overlooked, because of Roger´s last year succes. So i think Nole will be No.2 seeded, his lead is too big.

what are you saying? the 100% of 2010 wimbleodn points plus 50% of 2009 wimbleodn points is an isolated calculation. There is no addition to ranking points here. The 2800 is moot. Base on wimbledon formula Rafa will be #1 seed and Fed will be #2 seed.

Novak will then be drawn in Feds half and Murray in Rafa's. Just liek clockwork. Soderling will probably play Fed or Rafa in the QF as usual - this time I think he plays fed. He alternates Rafa and Fed for Rg/W.

Manequin75
06-05-2011, 08:34 PM
i think this poll is stale since march. Things have changed a bit. Beed to reset the poll and let people vote again. Or start a new thread.

Mjau!
06-06-2011, 01:38 AM
Why are everyone hyping up Nadal for Wimbeldon when this was his weakest clay season except for maybe 2009? :shrug: He will lose to any top 4 player. :yeah:

tests
06-06-2011, 01:40 AM
Nadal to ass-**** the competition. He will than get fed in the final, and win in 4. book it

ballbasher101
06-06-2011, 01:43 AM
Nadal is the favourite now. What happened to oh the calender is too long so I'm tired and not playing well. Reminds of bill o'reilly and his no spin zone nonsense.

SheepleBuster
06-06-2011, 01:47 AM
there ain't no way Rafa wins Wimbledon 2011. I guaran-damn-tee it.

ballbasher101
06-06-2011, 01:52 AM
there ain't no way Rafa wins Wimbledon 2011. I guaran-damn-tee it.

I hope he does not win it but he will. The only way he can lose is if a John Isner or a Karlovic takes him out early. If he reaches the second week and faces Federer in the final we all know what the result will be.

NadalPhan
06-06-2011, 04:19 AM
there ain't no way Rafa wins Wimbledon 2011. I guaran-damn-tee it.

Even if Rafa does win more than 11 slams, you don't have to leave this site. It's not like you made a bet with anybody....

Topspindoctor
06-06-2011, 04:20 AM
Why are everyone hyping up Nadal for Wimbeldon when this was his weakest clay season except for maybe 2009? :shrug: He will lose to any top 4 player. :yeah:

He won the biggest clay title. :shrug: Everything else is irrelevant. Nobody cares that he lost Madrid and Rome. It's GS that matters most and the real confidence booster. Nadal plays with zero pressure now. He already bagged a GS this year, everything else is a bonus.

SheepleBuster
06-06-2011, 04:21 AM
Even if Rafa does win more than 11 slams, you don't have to leave this site. It's not like you made a bet with anybody....

Always remember. We need to solve these issues: wars, world hunger, and rafa winning slams. Or we won't have peace on earth

Mjau!
06-06-2011, 04:23 AM
Comparing this RG to previous channel slams, the conclusion is that Roger is the favourite for Wimbledon. :yeah:

sambansal
06-06-2011, 12:17 PM
After French open Grandslam Rafa Nadal will win Wimbledon 2011 (http://merinews.com/wimbledon/) Tennis Championship.

Filo V.
06-06-2011, 01:31 PM
Wimbledon is probably as wide open as ever. I can see several men winning the event. I'm going with Roger.

ufiors
06-07-2011, 05:04 PM
Pick the winner before the exit of the draw:)

Bigselber
06-07-2011, 05:12 PM
I think Roger is favorite if he keeps his form from FO.. I hope he playes Nadal in the semis

LawrenceOfTennis
06-07-2011, 05:18 PM
Why Murray is an option? Murray has no fu*king chance at all. Federer will take it I think. Or at least I hope so.

Audacity
06-07-2011, 05:19 PM
^ Neither does DelPo, but hey...

ballbasher101
06-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Nadal will take it. Hope Federer will be in his half. Tired of the usual Federer beat down by Nadal in a final.

Legend
06-07-2011, 05:22 PM
I hope final will be Djokovic vs Federer,and then I'm not going to care a lot about winner,I love them both :worship:

RIboy
06-07-2011, 05:23 PM
Gulbis, Dimitrov or Cilic

MaxPower
06-07-2011, 05:25 PM
people are way faster here than you'd think. Use the search function!

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=179049

BULLZ1LLA
06-07-2011, 05:27 PM
(I think in 2008 when Rafa was up 2 sets to love before the rain, that was a preview of future Wimbledons. But I think Federer will defeat Djokovic at Wimbledon. That is one thing RG did for Federer, restored his confidence vs Djokovic. Murray vs Djokovic would be an awesome matchup)

FerrerAndNadal
06-07-2011, 05:35 PM
Rafa Nadal

Winners take all
06-07-2011, 05:37 PM
Novak should take this. Dude is red hot at the moment, he's solved Nadal. He barely lost the French Open due to some rotten luck, but the chance that something like this will happen again at Wimby is low. Plus after this FO failure the pressure of the winning streak has been taken off his back, now he is extremely revenge-hungry and will be much better prepared to beat the hell out of Fed, Nadal, Murray and the rest.

delboy
06-07-2011, 05:40 PM
No Gulbis? thread fail tbh.

Snowwy
06-07-2011, 05:47 PM
I think Roger.

Silvester
06-07-2011, 05:47 PM
Federer if he can keep his form. Will be interesting to see which half he's in but i'll be on Fed being in Novak's half again. Nadal will be out by the 3rd round.

BULLZ1LLA
06-07-2011, 05:51 PM
Novak should take this. Dude is red hot at the moment, he's solved Nadal. He barely lost the French Open due to some rotten luck, but the chance that something like this will happen again at Wimby is low. Plus after this FO failure the pressure of the winning streak has been taken off his back, now he is extremely revenge-hungry and will be much better prepared to beat the hell out of Fed, Nadal, Murray and the rest.

(Djokovic "solved" Nadal back in 2009 when he beat Nadal 3 times in a row :lol: ....Slams are a completely different story, and on grass Djokovic is far from the player he is on clay. While Rafa is just as good on grass in recent years as on clay. And I can't believe you think Djokovic will beat Federer on grass. Federer would be a huge favorite in that matchup. Murray vs Djokovic would be a blockbuster, hope we see that)

Chair Umpire
06-07-2011, 05:54 PM
I'm with Borg in this one: Fed is the favourite.

szelesvigyor
06-07-2011, 06:13 PM
Llodra or Raonic

Garson007
06-07-2011, 06:15 PM
I'm with Borg in this one: Fed is the favourite.
With the footnote: *As long as he doesn't have to face Rafa.

Greatness
06-07-2011, 06:21 PM
Djokovic will win it. :)

ufiors
06-07-2011, 06:55 PM
Roger

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-07-2011, 06:57 PM
Rafa is going to win vamooooooooooos

SheepleBuster
06-07-2011, 07:07 PM
Someone is going to get caught for doing juice. Vamos!

Mountaindewslave
06-07-2011, 07:13 PM
Rafa is going to win vamooooooooooos

vamos!!! I full heartedly agree

Mountaindewslave
06-07-2011, 07:15 PM
Federer if he can keep his form. Will be interesting to see which half he's in but i'll be on Fed being in Novak's half again. Nadal will be out by the 3rd round.

3rd round really, because he didn't just win Roland Garros, isn't defending Wimbledon, and isn't very good on grass.... hmmm?....

MaxPower
06-07-2011, 07:20 PM
I also predict Nadal out by QF at the latest. It's in the air! vamos!

Capuccino
06-07-2011, 07:21 PM
Why is Djokovic third on the list?

Nole fan
06-07-2011, 07:31 PM
He won the biggest clay title. :shrug: Everything else is irrelevant. Nobody cares that he lost Madrid and Rome. It's GS that matters most and the real confidence booster. Nadal plays with zero pressure now. He already bagged a GS this year, everything else is a bonus.

Agree with that. But Rafa is now more vulnerable than before.

Nole fan
06-07-2011, 07:35 PM
Federer is the favorite. That will make Nole's victory only sweeter. :D

Bilbo
06-07-2011, 07:41 PM
Why is Djokovic third on the list?

his chance is higher than someone like berdych who's also on the list

Start da Game
06-07-2011, 07:42 PM
clay god is set out on a rampage......it's hard to stop him once he wins the french open......watch him become pressure-free, aggressive and hit through all the inhibitions, doubts and get his backhand back to life.......

if his forehand and backhand are there and if he keeps serving and returning with moderate efficiency, good luck beating him.......

Start da Game
06-07-2011, 07:43 PM
djokovic might not go past the first week......this is just not his tournament, he needs some serious rest after the greatest season beginning streak in history......he is mentally too drained to produce any decent tennis until the us open.......

Poirot123
06-07-2011, 08:26 PM
The draw at Wimbledon could be critical to the success of the big names. Big servers with a half decent ground game could cause a massive upset in the early rounds of Wimbledon. Nadal almost crashed and burned twice last year to guys who can only serve in the first three rounds. If Nadal avoids the likes of Isner in the first couple of rounds, or gets some 'clay specialists' that he'll routine in 90 minutes then he'll be very hard to beat, as Wimbledon slows down as the grass wears away.

I think Federer will have more belief if he meets Rafa on grass, the low bounce will help him a lot more, and his serve will be more potent - a lot more even given their respective games. Djokovic is a dark horse, but he has to prove he can play and beat the best on this surface, and not be taken to 5 sets by Rochus again. I actually think Murray will be a massive danger here, and the likes of del Potro, Soderling, Tsonga, Monfils and Roddick could all cause an upset on their day, but I'm not sure they'll have enough to win back to back against the very best. I think Federer will win though, he's been building for this tournment since he hired Annochone last year post Wimbledon. This is his best slam, he's playing close to his best, and more importantly, he can beat Rafa on grass. It won't be easy, but it'll be easier than doing it on clay!

Nole fan
06-07-2011, 09:43 PM
djokovic might not go past the first week......this is just not his tournament, he needs some serious rest after the greatest season beginning streak in history......he is mentally too drained to produce any decent tennis until the us open.......

Haha you wish. He will come out super motivated, it's the slam he wants to win the most and the one he has been working so hard for. ;)

Kiedis
06-07-2011, 10:15 PM
I have only one prediction: Wawrinka will play in the same quarter of the drawn than Roger. The old man always needs a extra rest day in the GS.

ossie
06-07-2011, 10:18 PM
I have only one prediction: Wawrinka will play in the same quarter of the drawn than Roger. The old man always needs a extra rest day in the GS.this is also my prediction and i would like to add to it that mugwinka will bend over to his master again.

yuri27
06-07-2011, 11:02 PM
The draw at Wimbledon could be critical to the success of the big names. Big servers with a half decent ground game could cause a massive upset in the early rounds of Wimbledon. Nadal almost crashed and burned twice last year to guys who can only serve in the first three rounds. If Nadal avoids the likes of Isner in the first couple of rounds, or gets some 'clay specialists' that he'll routine in 90 minutes then he'll be very hard to beat, as Wimbledon slows down as the grass wears away.

I think Federer will have more belief if he meets Rafa on grass, the low bounce will help him a lot more, and his serve will be more potent - a lot more even given their respective games. Djokovic is a dark horse, but he has to prove he can play and beat the best on this surface, and not be taken to 5 sets by Rochus again. I actually think Murray will be a massive danger here, and the likes of del Potro, Soderling, Tsonga, Monfils and Roddick could all cause an upset on their day, but I'm not sure they'll have enough to win back to back against the very best. I think Federer will win though, he's been building for this tournment since he hired Annochone last year post Wimbledon. This is his best slam, he's playing close to his best, and more importantly, he can beat Rafa on grass. It won't be easy, but it'll be easier than doing it on clay!

No chance those 3 will be a threat on grass.
Gasquet for example is a far far more dangerous and a more proven player on grass than those 3...and he has been playing better tennis than them recently.
He is under radar because he hasn't played at Wimbledon for 3 years but anyone who knows a bit about tennis knows that he is a very dangerous player on that surface, much more than Clownga and Clownfils anyway.

Clay Death
06-07-2011, 11:08 PM
my prediction:

if the clay warrior is in the final, there is going to be only 1 outcome. he has 4 of the last 5 slams and he has now won his last 7 finals at slams. it would be foolish to bet against him in a final.

did some clueless, envy fungus riddled suborganism say that he can only play on clay?

he is required to kill so he kills. what else is there?


memo to his opposition:

prepare for hell. pray for death.

TheBaker
06-08-2011, 01:16 AM
this is also my prediction and i would like to add to it that mugwinka will bend over to his master again.

Benislas won't make it far enough to lie down for Fed. He will lose 1st round.

Topspindoctor
06-08-2011, 01:26 AM
Nadal will win Wimbledon.

misty1
06-08-2011, 01:28 AM
murray will win wimbledon

Mjau!
06-08-2011, 01:29 AM
Nadal will win Wimbledon.

:no:

Elbarto
06-08-2011, 01:40 AM
Tsonga will reach the final, good quality tennis since he is alone and free ( no coach, no stress )

luie
06-08-2011, 01:57 AM
Wimbledon belongs to federer,,he will defeat nadull in the finals if they meet book it.
He has shown me enough @ RG to suggest he will defeat nadull on a lower bouncing/faster surface.

luie
06-08-2011, 02:04 AM
Haha you wish. He will come out super motivated, it's the slam he wants to win the most and the one he has been working so hard for. ;)
Fed will destroy him on the low bouncing/faster surface book it.:wavey:

Garson007
06-08-2011, 02:04 AM
Anderson will wing it. :shrug:

rafaholic
06-08-2011, 02:04 AM
Wimbledon belongs to federer,,he will defeat nadull in the finals if they meet book it.
He has shown me enough @ RG to suggest he will defeat nadull on a lower bouncing/faster surface.

like 2008? :D...i hope so they'll meet at wimby so rafa can even grass h2h

TennisLurker
06-08-2011, 02:05 AM
None of the top 3 to win Wimbledon, Rafa to be upsetted by a big server. My predictions.

luie
06-08-2011, 02:27 AM
None of the top 3 to win Wimbledon, Rafa to be upsetted by a big server. My predictions.
I agree with the part with nadull not winning but I say feds takes it & the USO,,the grinders "slow court emperors" had their time ,,but this is the part of the season that emphasis skill as opposed to endurance/moonballing and such.

Mjau!
06-08-2011, 02:40 AM
like 2008? :D...i hope so they'll meet at wimby so rafa can even grass h2h

Rg -08 was a bit more one sided :rolleyes:

Start da Game
06-08-2011, 05:03 AM
Haha you wish. He will come out super motivated, it's the slam he wants to win the most and the one he has been working so hard for. ;)

i myself wish to see a nadal-djokovic final but i just don't think djokovic will be there mentally.......let's see, i wish i am wrong......

BULLZ1LLA
06-08-2011, 05:19 AM
(My gut feeling says Murray vs Rafa Wimbledon Final)

SerialKillerToBe
06-08-2011, 05:21 AM
Wait, the past few years the number 4 seed has been in the number 2 seed's half of the draw. Will this mean that Murray will be in Nole's half?

If so his chances have dramatically increased.

MIMIC
06-08-2011, 05:26 AM
Wait, the past few years the number 4 seed has been in the number 2 seed's half of the draw. Will this mean that Murray will be in Nole's half?

If so his chances have dramatically increased.

If they let Fed be on Nadal's half, I'd be surprised.

heya
06-08-2011, 05:27 AM
roddick will crash out in the 2nd match and vacation with 'athletic wife'. good news for djokerererer.

SerialKillerToBe
06-08-2011, 05:37 AM
If they let Fed be on Nadal's half, I'd be surprised.

So it's not random? They actually choose the placement of 3rd and 4th seeds?

Primus
06-08-2011, 07:38 AM
3rd and 4th, are randomly placed on upper or lower half

MIMIC
06-08-2011, 09:40 AM
So it's not random? They actually choose the placement of 3rd and 4th seeds?

It's random. At least it's supposed to be :cool:

FormerRafaFan
06-08-2011, 09:44 AM
Nole will probably win it. Rafa cannot win over Nole, and Fed, hmm.. he's not as good as he once was.

ossie
06-08-2011, 09:53 AM
Nole will probably win it. Rafa cannot win over Nole, and Fed, hmm.. he's not as good as he once was.
this is grass, djoker should consider himself lucky if he can take a set off rafa on this surface.

Legend
06-08-2011, 10:30 AM
Djoko lost one match in this season and no1 belive in him anymore :D

MIMIC
06-08-2011, 10:40 AM
this is grass, djoker should consider himself lucky if he can take a set off rafa on this surface.

They've only met on grass twice and he already has. Wimbledon 2007 Nadal wins 3-6, 6-1, 4-1 RET

Nole fan
06-08-2011, 11:06 AM
Djoko lost one match in this season and no1 belive in him anymore :D

That's good. Free of pressure he will perform his best and stun the competition.

BULLZ1LLA
06-08-2011, 12:02 PM
Nole will probably win it. Rafa cannot win over Nole, and Fed, hmm.. he's not as good as he once was.

(Nola will never beat Rafa in a slam, he doesn't have the talent to do it, and especially not on Djokovic's worst surface)

GSMnadal
06-08-2011, 02:17 PM
(Nola will never beat Rafa in a slam, he doesn't have the talent to do it, and especially not on Djokovic's worst surface)

Ofcourse he has the talent to beat Rafa in a slam :rolleyes:

If Murray, Soderling, Tsonga can do it, surely Djokovic also can?

MaxPower
06-08-2011, 03:00 PM
Ofcourse he has the talent to beat Rafa in a slam :rolleyes:

If Murray, Soderling, Tsonga can do it, surely Djokovic also can?

Well he is 0-5 vs Rafa in slams so he'd better get going. But their H2H is turning so likely their slam H2H will too. Hopefully 5-5 vs Rafa in slams in a few years

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-08-2011, 03:03 PM
The guy who has the best record out of anyone or ever basically everyone in a season. Novak Djokovic 43-1. Dominated the clay season. Dominated the Hardcourt season. Now its time to dominate Grass. I see no reason why he wont win this tourney. He's just too good, esp with the pressure off him.

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-08-2011, 03:06 PM
Well he is 0-5 vs Rafa in slams so he'd better get going. But their H2H is turning so likely their slam H2H will too. Hopefully 5-5 vs Rafa in slams in a few years

It doesn't really matter whats in the past does it now? seriously what the fuck does the past have to do with wimbledon 2011. Novak is a new player. A better player. This isnt the 2009 version who couldn't handle heat, couldn't hit deep and was one dimensional. he's a changed man. Novak has whipped Nadal 4 times this season. Crushed him in fact. thats where you base your info on. The present not the past

If you want to talk slams...

guess who has the best record in them THIS season!

yeah Nole does.

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-08-2011, 03:09 PM
this is grass, djoker should consider himself lucky if he can take a set off rafa on this surface.

Have you seen 2011 Nole play on grass? thought not. Nadal is overrated here anyway. One 5 set marathon vs Fed who couldn't be any softer in big matches and he's some sort of clay god? don't think so. Don't see how a surface change will make a difference to what has become a one sided "rivalry" this year.

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-08-2011, 03:13 PM
IMO. The final will be Djokovic vs Nadal. The best two players duking it out on the biggest stage of them all. Can see it going to 5 and Djokovic collapsing on the ground in extacy after finally winning the big one. Unlike Federer, Rafa will handle the loss with dignity and pride.

As for the rest of the bunch.

Federer - loss to Djokovic in the semis (had to beat Nole eventually, however the domination resumes)
Murray - agonizing 4th round loss after leading to some player ranked 14-35

Nole fan
06-08-2011, 03:35 PM
It doesn't really matter whats in the past does it now? seriously what the fuck does the past have to do with wimbledon 2011. Novak is a new player. A better player. This isnt the 2009 version who couldn't handle heat, couldn't hit deep and was one dimensional. he's a changed man. Novak has whipped Nadal 4 times this season. Crushed him in fact. thats where you base your info on. The present not the past

If you want to talk slams...

guess who has the best record in them THIS season!

yeah Nole does.

Words of wisdom, mate. :)

FormerRafaFan
06-08-2011, 03:37 PM
(Nola will never beat Rafa in a slam, he doesn't have the talent to do it, and especially not on Djokovic's worst surface)

Hmm.. they said the same thing about clay, but whataya know.. He won two clay tourneys!

Nole fan
06-08-2011, 03:41 PM
Hmm.. they said the same thing about clay, but whataya know.. He won two clay tourneys!

Sokk are you a converted Nole fan? :eek:

luie
06-08-2011, 03:42 PM
Have you seen 2011 Nole play on grass? thought not. Nadal is overrated here anyway. One 5 set marathon vs Fed who couldn't be any softer in big matches and he's some sort of clay god? don't think so. Don't see how a surface change will make a difference to what has become a one sided "rivalry" this year.
Fed is soft in big matches against the games best but not on grass,,sorry.Fed came back from 2 sets against nadull in 2008 tho force a fifth set where he eventually lost 9-7.Bottom line he either wins his big matches or loses close.
Fed is in better form/health now than in 2008,,nadull currently is not @ the level he was in 2008..
Fed cliams the title putting another beatdown on Novak if they meet book it. Novak was lucky with hit n'hope in NY against a 29 year old fed..
Novak is only superior to fed on slow HC like AO & such...
Fed will win nadull/novak will be fighting for the plate.... The steady grinder type players had their time its now time for REAL players,.,, fed improved bh will demolish any-one who stands in his way......

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-08-2011, 04:03 PM
3rd and 4th, are randomly placed on upper or lower half

who cares

Fed is soft in big matches against the games best but not on grass,,sorry.Fed came back from 2 sets against nadull in 2008 tho force a fifth set where he eventually lost 9-7.Bottom line he either wins his big matches or loses close.

ffs i was using 2008 as an example. to be honest i couldn't care less about what happened then. It happened 3 years ago. 3 years ago when federer was faster, more agile and still hated losing. Fuck all that mono bullshit, im sick of defending him over that excuse. As i said before for me now at Federers age, surface does not matter when your playing Nole vs Nadal. It just doesn't. And no gradually on EVERY surface, Fed has gotten worse in 5 set matches. More so relying on other chokes (falla/roddick). Vs Novak you wont get chokes. I mean for Christ sake Feds rep on grass came from his 2003-2007 play not the years after. You dont have enough evidence to prove to me that Fed can get it together mentally vs the big players. Beating a guy he owns like Roddick does not count.


Fed is in better form/health now than in 2008,,nadull currently is not @ the level he was in 2008..
Fed cliams the title putting another beatdown on Novak if they meet book it. Novak was lucky with hit n'hope in NY against a 29 year old fed..

Yeah no he's not. He's older, weaker and not as concentrated. Back then he had more to play for. Beatdown? what beatdown?. federer played the best clay match of his life (yes better than hamburg and madrid) and barely mananged to scrap past Nole. Barely. We both know who would have won had it gone to a 5th set. the match was a freak accident. Federer had lost the last 3 matches. Now Nole can resume his dominance and federer can be his whipping boy all over again.

The only guy hitting and hoping was Federer. Closing his eyes and playing out of his skin much like Nole USOpen 2011. Nole can neutralize any serve. he reads anything like a book and his anticipation is flat out greatness. Nole can overwhelm from the baseline like he always does. pushing grandpa all over the court and making him cover more miles than a dolphin migrating after the sharks scared it away. His movement is too good therefore he gets more time on the ball, thus can do more. Federer cant handle Nole At his age Nole cannot be contained. Its just too much unless Fed plays like a 20 year old but as i said RG was a freak accident. Federer sits the ball up way to much. You watch Fed block back Noles much improved serve back and you keep watching as Nole pounds it away for winner after winner. Nole loves taking time away from the opponents, changing pace. federer hates that. Nole's concentration is miles better as well.

Luie, you gone mad. Crazy. just admit your wrong so the shame will be less come Wimbledon. Federer has nothing against Nole. Absolutely nothing. He cant play a young mans game. Nole wont let him feel comfortable. book it :tennis:


Novak is only superior to fed on slow HC like AO & such...
Fed will win nadull/novak will be fighting for the plate.... The steady grinder type players had their time its now time for REAL players,.,, fed improved bh will demolish any-one who stands in his way......

federer can only beat Nole when he's playing at his highest level and Nole lacks match practice which happens 5 % of the time. Feds BH hasn't improved at all. Its what cost him his 2nd french open. Its very vulnerable esp against the "steady grinder".

luie
06-08-2011, 04:22 PM
who cares



ffs i was using 2008 as an example. to be honest i couldn't care less about what happened then. It happened 3 years ago. 3 years ago when federer was faster, more agile and still hated losing. Fuck all that mono bullshit, im sick of defending him over that excuse. As i said before for me now at Federers age, surface does not matter when your playing Nole vs Nadal. It just doesn't. And no gradually on EVERY surface, Fed has gotten worse in 5 set matches. More so relying on other chokes (falla/roddick). Vs Novak you wont get chokes. I mean for Christ sake Feds rep on grass came from his 2003-2007 play not the years after. You dont have enough evidence to prove to me that Fed can get it together mentally vs the big players. Beating a guy he owns like Roddick does not count.




Yeah no he's not. He's older, weaker and not as concentrated. Back then he had more to play for. Beatdown? what beatdown?. federer played the best clay match of his life (yes better than hamburg and madrid) and barely mananged to scrap past Nole. Barely. We both know who would have won had it gone to a 5th set. the match was a freak accident. Federer had lost the last 3 matches. Now Nole can resume his dominance and federer can be his whipping boy all over again.

The only guy hitting and hoping was Federer. Closing his eyes and playing out of his skin much like Nole USOpen 2011. Nole can neutralize any serve. he reads anything like a book and his anticipation is flat out greatness. Nole can overwhelm from the baseline like he always does. pushing grandpa all over the court and making him cover more miles than a dolphin migrating after the sharks scared it away. His movement is too good therefore he gets more time on the ball, thus can do more. Federer cant handle Nole At his age Nole cannot be contained. Its just too much unless Fed plays like a 20 year old but as i said RG was a freak accident. Federer sits the ball up way to much. You watch Fed block back Noles much improved serve back and you keep watching as Nole pounds it away for winner after winner. Nole loves taking time away from the opponents, changing pace. federer hates that. Nole's concentration is miles better as well.

Luie, you gone mad. Crazy. just admit your wrong so the shame will be less come Wimbledon. Federer has nothing against Nole. Absolutely nothing. He cant play a young mans game. Nole wont let him feel comfortable. book it :tennis:




federer can only beat Nole when he's playing at his highest level and Nole lacks match practice which happens 5 % of the time. Feds BH hasn't improved at all. Its what cost him his 2nd french open. Its very vulnerable esp against the "steady grinder".
Your novak bandwagon got derailed by the old man on a surface Novak dominated. Fed was clutch against novak,,breaking back to even the forth set,,forcing a tie breaker to take out Novak...
Novak was lucky to defeat fed @ the USO & you know it,,those 2 match points came down to pure luck."hit n' hope" those were novaks words not mines...
History doesn't support your case that Novak is better outside AO I 'am sorry.
I will always give the edge to Serve/forehand Dominated players (fed) as opposed to return .bh oriented players (Novak)...The Dominatant champions of the past were all Serve/forehand players..
Returner/bh have their period in the sun but too erractic to dominate for extended periods of time.
So go ahead tell me,,when was the last player to win wimby with novaks style of play,,yea!!good luck with that.
My reference to 2008,,was about fed was demolished @ RG but still made the finals & Wimby giving a tough fight....When its comes to wimby & grass fed "grows a pair" & will win Wimby book it...
Fed was never going to beat mr. moonballer @ Rg,,but his bh returns was deeper than usual,,in 2008 feds returns made nadull look like ivaniservic,,it couldn't get any worse than that performance,,he can only improve..Nadull is more erratic than then..
Novak has a small chance 2 wimby but make no mistake fed/nadull are the favorite.....Novak has done nothing to date outside AO for me to give him the edge @ any slam....
Fed @ his best @ RG,,:confused: 30 year old fed 2 his best are you for real,,Novak could have had a RG title now & be the favorite for wimby but now he is a chump,,& will get severly sodomized by fed...
You can quote me after wimby...

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-08-2011, 04:45 PM
Your novak bandwagon got derailed by the old man on a surface Novak dominated.

poor opening to a post. Already makes me lose interest in whatever shite you have to say. All the old man did was make the monster angry. All federer did was make Nole's record 43-1.

Fed was clutch against novak,,breaking back to even the forth set,,forcing a tie breaker to take out Novak...
Novak was lucky to defeat fed @ the USO & you know it,,those 2 match points came down to pure luck."hit n' hope" those were novaks words not mines...

I dont disagree. I still dont see how this has anything to do with wimbledon. Federer played a freak match. It happens. get over it. he was put in his place a day later. Also agreed about the US Open. Except that was in 2010. You know when Nole was a completely different player. Nole changed after Davis Cup not after the US Open.

History doesn't support your case that Novak is better outside AO I 'am sorry.

again stop blabbering about history. Yeah feds made history. Yeah he's beaten Nole in the past. but guess what old fella? Noles creating history and is beating Federer in the present. 3-1 this season proves it. Federer got lucky avoiding Nole much more this year.

I will always give the edge to Serve/forehand Dominated players (fed) as opposed to return .bh oriented players (Novak)...The Dominatant champions of the past were all Serve/forehand players..

key word in here and in all your posts is the past. It's called the past for a reason. Nole's forehand is now better than Rogers which is waning and is very streaky. Any whether condition and it's gone. Nole is much more flexible and he actually has support from the backhand side. Oh and his speed. Nole's serve is massive now anyway. What Federer can do, Nole can do it better. Federer's game is flawed. heavily reliant on certain shots. Nole's is not. he can reliable on anything as every shot he has is a weapon.

Returner/bh have their period in the sun but too erractic to dominate for extended periods of time.

Wrong and it's the exactly opposite. Anyway as i said before...Nole is too strong off every wing. he has no weaknesses.

So go ahead tell me,,when was the last player to win wimby with novaks style of play,,yea!!good luck with that.
My reference to 2008,,was about fed was demolished @ RG but still made the finals & Wimby giving a tough fight....When its comes to wimby & grass fed "grows a pair" & will win Wimby book it...

talking about the past and assuming things = meaningless and not my time. Fed was demolished because he played Nadal playing his best match on clay. it had nothing to do with Federers play. he was a spectator then and he always would. Anyhow your arguement goes both ways considering nadals level of play was much lower this year. Thats what kept the scoreline close. Not his shit backhand.

Fed was never going to beat mr. moonballer @ Rg

yes moving on...

,,but his bh returns was deeper than usual,,in 2008 feds returns made nadull look like ivaniservic,,it couldn't get any worse than that performance,,he can only improve..Nadull is more erratic than then..
Novak has a small chance 2 wimby but make no mistake fed/nadull are the favorite.....Novak has done nothing to date outside AO for me to give him the edge @ any slam....

Since when does winning every freaking match you play in + having the best start in the history of the sport not constitute being a fave. You only rate federer becuase of history. Not his current form or shape. Thats wrong.


Fed @ his best @ RG,,:confused: 30 year old fed 2 his best are you for real,,Novak could have had a RG title now & be the favorite for wimby but now he is a chump,,& will get severly sodomized by fed...
You can quote me after wimby...

I will quote you after i have quoted all the over pathetic federer fans who cant let thier idols fall from grace go and continue to demean his legacy. Find me a better match federer has played on clay at that type of match in that type of importance. As i said it was a freak match where federer felt like he was 20. It happened one day and his physical state and age and everything else will make sure it wont happen again. Wait NOVAK will make sure it wont happen again.

The only chump here is Roger. Nole has won a slam, masters title and beaten everyone in style. Apart from one freak match all federer has done is losing to losers like melzer and repeated being Nole and Rafa's bitch. How many titles has won since beating nobodies in Dubai?

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-08-2011, 04:46 PM
Oh and Luie...tidy up your posts. They look atrocious.

SerialKillerToBe
06-08-2011, 04:58 PM
It's random. At least it's supposed to be :cool:

*sigh* ATPmafia.

luie
06-08-2011, 05:02 PM
poor opening to a post. Already makes me lose interest in whatever shite you have to say. All the old man did was make the monster angry. All federer did was make Nole's record 43-1.



I dont disagree. I still dont see how this has anything to do with wimbledon. Federer played a freak match. It happens. get over it. he was put in his place a day later. Also agreed about the US Open. Except that was in 2010. You know when Nole was a completely different player. Nole changed after Davis Cup not after the US Open.



again stop blabbering about history. Yeah feds made history. Yeah he's beaten Nole in the past. but guess what old fella? Noles creating history and is beating Federer in the present. 3-1 this season proves it. Federer got lucky avoiding Nole much more this year.

.

key word in here and in all your posts is the past. It's called the past for a reason. Nole's forehand is now better than Rogers which is waning and is very streaky. Any whether condition and it's gone. Nole is much more flexible and he actually has support from the backhand side. Oh and his speed. Nole's serve is massive now anyway. What Federer can do, Nole can do it better. Federer's game is flawed. heavily reliant on certain shots. Nole's is not. he can reliable on anything as every shot he has is a weapon.



Wrong and it's the exactly opposite. Anyway as i said before...Nole is too strong off every wing. he has no weaknesses.



talking about the past and assuming things = meaningless and not my time. Fed was demolished because he played Nadal playing his best match on clay. it had nothing to do with Federers play. he was a spectator then and he always would. Anyhow your arguement goes both ways considering nadals level of play was much lower this year. Thats what kept the scoreline close. Not his shit backhand.



yes moving on...



Since when does winning every freaking match you play in + having the best start in the history of the sport not constitute being a fave. You only rate federer becuase of history. Not his current form or shape. Thats wrong.




I will quote you after i have quoted all the over pathetic federer fans who cant let thier idols fall from grace go and continue to demean his legacy. Find me a better match federer has played on clay at that type of match in that type of importance. As i said it was a freak match where federer felt like he was 20. It happened one day and his physical state and age and everything else will make sure it wont happen again. Wait NOVAK will make sure it wont happen again.

The only chump here is Roger. Nole has won a slam, masters title and beaten everyone in style. Apart from one freak match all federer has done is losing to losers like melzer and repeated being Nole and Rafa's bitch. How many titles has won since beating nobodies in Dubai?
You keep mentioning everything is in the past,,,bla,bla,so what I'am supposed to go on your opinion :o. Novak has given nothing of substance..
Novak lost his last match to the old man,,I guess thats OK then,,,,good retort nadull omg so original,,fed was beaten by nadull @ RG in his PRIME so its expected,,,the mere fact the scoreline was respectable is a credit to fed..But I still don't know why you are deflecting,,what has fed- nadull,,got to do with fed-novak :confused:.
Fed has bigger balls than Novak anyday... Novak when he see a carrot in front of him "shits his pants"
He is more adapt @ beating nadull but it has never materialize,,but I guess thats in the past because he won a few MM tournies whoopi-doo.
Novak is a big failure for allowing nadull to win the USO & losing to fed ,,so unable to beat nadull & claim the #1 position..He failed many times to get to #2,,defend a title,,& recently get to #1...
If he had won the RG I would have put him as favorite for Wimby but he doesn't take defeat well losing to the likes of safin/haas/birdshit @ defeats @ RG but we will see because according to you,,gluten-free will do better "future"...
Novak is allowing nadull to accumulate cheapen slams,,so how is he better than federer,,he is worse because he has the neccessary weapons to man-handle nadull but gets stage fright on the big stage..
As for novak fh we will see as the "faster" season is here,,his fh traditional needs time to set up his shots,,he would not be afforded the time on this surface,,so we will see who has the current better fh....Novak was sodomized by fed @ RG get over it,,it will continue @ Wimby...
Sure fed is not the best choice to stop nadull but I give him the edge over Novak,,novak is a pussy when a prize is in front of him.

Start da Game
06-08-2011, 05:14 PM
IMO. The final will be Djokovic vs Nadal. The best two players duking it out on the biggest stage of them all. Can see it going to 5 and Djokovic collapsing on the ground in extacy after finally winning the big one. Unlike Federer, Rafa will handle the loss with dignity and pride.

As for the rest of the bunch.

Federer - loss to Djokovic in the semis (had to beat Nole eventually, however the domination resumes)
Murray - agonizing 4th round loss after leading to some player ranked 14-35

fed's mate, what do you think was the main reason for novak's semis defeat at FO? i thought that 5 day break did no good to him and he thought too much about the match.......

he started out breathing heavily and was not comfortable for some reason, it looked like the 5 day break had him thinking too much about the match and also threw him off rhythm.......

unfortunately for novak, fed was playing his best match on clay.......i think that should say it all......honestly i have not seen fed put up such a show on clay before.......that match will go down as his best match on clay.......

djokovic was a little unlucky that on his bad day his opponent was having a field day.......if this was not a match of such historical significance and had novak got to play his quarterfinal, i think he would have pulled it off just like at the australian open playing with full freedom.......

Mjau!
06-08-2011, 05:29 PM
The "can't beat Rafa in a slam" argument is ridiculous! We can discount the RG and W matches straight away, because before this year, Novak was 0-11 versus Rafa on the natural surfaces, ie 0-3 in slams and 0-8 in non-slams. This didn't indicate an inability to beat Rafa in slams, it indicated an inability to beat Rafa anywhere (on clay/grass), which has now changed. So then you're left with the US Open final, but it's safe to say that a single match against Rafa in the hard court form of his life, following a mentally and physically exhausting semi vs Federer, hardly constitutes conclusive evidence of what you claim.

Start da Game
06-08-2011, 05:32 PM
The "can't beat Rafa in a slam" argument is ridiculous! We can discount the RG and W matches straight away, because before this year, Novak was 0-11 versus Rafa on the natural surfaces, ie 0-3 in slams and 0-8 in non-slams. This didn't indicate an inability to beat Rafa in slams, it indicated an inability to beat Rafa anywhere (on clay/grass), which has now changed. So then you're left with the US Open final, but it's safe to say that a single match against Rafa in the hard court form of his life, following a mentally and physically exhausting semi vs Federer, hardly constitutes conclusive evidence of what you claim.

to whom exactly is that reply?