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256 Draws For Slams??

Sapeod
03-15-2011, 10:40 PM
Should we increase the draw for slams?
I think it would be more intruiging and interesting if there were 64 seeds for slams and a 256 draw. So, the seeds meet each other in the 3rd round, as they do already, but there are more players.
Slams are the biggest tournaments, but Indian Wells and Miami have the same amount of rounds, so that kind of ruins them a bit.
It would make the slams even more important and prestigious than they are atm. It would take an amazing player to win them, and that's why I think they should do 256 draws.

I think that would be a good idea and it could be an exciting, interesting way to do slams...

Anyone agree?

Discuss...

Certinfy
03-15-2011, 10:41 PM
No.

Pirata.
03-15-2011, 10:43 PM
Hell no.

JanKowalski
03-15-2011, 10:43 PM
No.

Calidreth
03-15-2011, 10:44 PM
I'll just mirror the above 3's answers.

Fat Camel
03-15-2011, 10:44 PM
One Grandissimo 256 Slam.

156mphserve
03-15-2011, 10:44 PM
No

Mountaindewslave
03-15-2011, 10:44 PM
disagree, that would be FAR TOOO LARGE, it would take too long and with that size tournament fitness may become more important than SKILL, I like it how it is now, although i can see your complaints with Grand slams/masters having same number of rounds

abraxas21
03-15-2011, 10:45 PM
No.

the GS already have enough mugs

Orka_n
03-15-2011, 10:45 PM
No.

All of a sudden we would have 3 week slams... and muggish matches all over the place... just no.

Young 8
03-15-2011, 10:46 PM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8546/lolwut2s.jpg

pienet
03-15-2011, 10:46 PM
That would be an organisational nightmare. First round alone would easily take three to four days.

NikolaBGD
03-15-2011, 10:46 PM
No

dombrfc
03-15-2011, 10:53 PM
No

Sonja1989
03-15-2011, 10:53 PM
Noooo, it would be scary. Players from 200 to 250 can't win QD match too.
And yeah, this at most seven match is enough.

dombrfc
03-15-2011, 10:54 PM
And who is 'we'??

oranges
03-15-2011, 10:57 PM
I think it should be a nice round number like 1,000. Might need an entire season for two slams, but hey, everyone gets to take part.

Sapeod
03-15-2011, 10:58 PM
I think it should be a nice round number like 1,000. Might need an entire season for two slams, but hey, everyone gets to take part.
If we could do that, that would be a good idea.
However, that is impossible.
256 draws are good, tonnes of players can take part and make their breakthroughs.
64 seeds allow some of the lower ranked top 100 players to get a safe spot to help their rankings.

At the end of day, it helps a lot of players and it would be interesing.

DrJules
03-15-2011, 11:02 PM
I think it should be a nice round number like 1,000. Might need an entire season for two slams, but hey, everyone gets to take part.

If we could do that, that would be a good idea.
However, that is impossible.
256 draws are good, tonnes of players can take part and make their breakthroughs.
64 seeds allow some of the lower ranked top 100 players to get a safe spot to help their rankings.

At the end of day, it helps a lot of players and it would be interesing.

Word Life, I think Oranges is indicating you idea does not work.

oranges
03-15-2011, 11:03 PM
Cabbage deffo doesn't pick up on any sarcasm, no matter how loud it is :lol:

viruzzz
03-15-2011, 11:04 PM
No.
I don't know how the hell you thought anyone could agree about that.

KaiserT
03-15-2011, 11:04 PM
This idea will have as much support as your assertion that Murray has a better forehand than Djokovic.

Sapeod
03-15-2011, 11:06 PM
Cabbage deffo doesn't pick up on any sarcasm, no matter how loud it is :lol:
I knew you were being sarcastic, I just thought your sarcastic idea was actually pretty good, if it was possible.

DrJules
03-15-2011, 11:12 PM
Cabbage deffo doesn't pick up on any sarcasm, no matter how loud it is :lol:

The qualifying event at each grand slam does effectively make it much larger than the 128 draw anyway of potential competitors.

oranges
03-15-2011, 11:15 PM
The qualifying event at each grand slam does effectively make it much larger than the 128 draw anyway of potential competitors.

That only makes the larger draw more meaningless IMO. Plenty of players able to play qualies. Top 100 as direct entry is just about right.

Filo V.
03-15-2011, 11:16 PM
No. Slams are the biggest events of them all and players should be forced to earn themselves in, not just make it by being awful but still having a 210 ranking and making the MD. It would take away from the integrity of the event, and it would be too long.

Vida
03-15-2011, 11:39 PM
mtf :cuckoo: it may as well take hundred "no" posts before people figure out its a senseless thread to begin with.

GlennMirnyi
03-15-2011, 11:41 PM
mtf :cuckoo: it may as well take hundred "no" posts before people figure out its a senseless thread to begin with.

In this case, not even a million "no"s would do the job.

Helevorn
03-16-2011, 12:00 AM
256? Do you really wanna see Viola, Lobkov, Estrella, Lorenzi, Knittel, Cabal, Vagnozzi, Balazs and so on in the Main Draw of a GS tournament?! :lol:

Topspindoctor
03-16-2011, 12:26 AM
No, let's not turn slams into mugfests by allowing challenger level clowns play in them.

Elbarto
03-16-2011, 12:36 AM
no need to increase the draws for slams,

but for Master Cup ( World tour final ) it may be interesting to increase the draw ( 16 players instead of 8 )

Hewitt =Legend
03-16-2011, 12:38 AM
Good God no...

Priam
03-16-2011, 01:03 AM
The same guys will be winning them anyway. :lol:

out_here_grindin
03-16-2011, 01:20 AM
Kalamazoo does a 192 draw. It's a mess.

256 draws may allow some former Tigers into the draw like Reix and Thompson. So no that would not be appropriate.

Igede
03-16-2011, 01:39 AM
YES YES YES YES. Best idea i've heard in a looong time. :kiss:world life:kiss:

GlennMirnyi
03-16-2011, 02:02 AM
Let's make a 50000 player draw.

This way we could see some very exciting encounters like Federer vs random amateur. :worship:

GlennMirnyi
03-16-2011, 02:03 AM
YES YES YES YES. Best idea i've heard in a looong time. :kiss:world life:kiss:

Double account alert.

gulzhan
03-16-2011, 02:06 AM
I am thinking about opening the next GM thread. How about 256 5th GS with all the 256 seeded? Played in China?

The Magician
03-16-2011, 02:09 AM
Let's play 512 draws, but only best of 1 set and you play 3 matches every day. That way tennis can be more appealing to americans with short attention spans :help:

GlennMirnyi
03-16-2011, 02:15 AM
Let's play 512 draws, but only best of 1 set and you play 3 matches every day. That way tennis can be more appealing to americans with short attention spans :help:

You forgot the cheerleaders.

OLYMPICLEGEND
03-16-2011, 03:01 AM
The only changes that should be made are add ONE DAY to the US Open so finalists have a day's break between SF and F, oh and get an effing roof :p

tennishero
03-16-2011, 03:10 AM
waste of time, noone wants to watch top 50 players thrash challengers.

FiBeR
03-16-2011, 04:51 AM
No
No
No
No
Yes
I mean No

shiaben
03-16-2011, 04:55 AM
Heck any player for that matter! Waste energy against brainless ball bashers and countless mugs galore.

The Magician
03-16-2011, 04:57 AM
You forgot the cheerleaders.

Oh yeah :lol: I gotta say though, I would prefer WTA to cheer lead at grand slams rather than waste time with drama and choking. Even the ugly ones :unsure:

FiBeR
03-16-2011, 04:57 AM
lets open a random Pentium III and see how much RAM memory it got - that should be the number of players in the next slam

MalwareDie
03-16-2011, 05:01 AM
Halving the amount of seeds is what should be done. This is a mug era where the increased amount of seeds make it easier to win Grand Slam titles.

Acer
03-16-2011, 06:41 AM
good God what an awful idea

Garson007
03-16-2011, 09:45 AM
If you have enough courts, only two extra days would be needed, but that would take it out of the 2 week period. As it stands you basically have an extra day together with the seven play days and the day breaks in between them. Unless of course you make some rounds consecutive.

Rik.
03-16-2011, 09:53 AM
Of couse not. :haha:

Blackbriar
03-16-2011, 10:28 AM
it's too dangerous, figure, if Murray faced guy ranked 200 or more, he could be in serious danger right at the beginning.

Topspindoctor
03-16-2011, 10:31 AM
it's too dangerous, figure, if Murray faced guy ranked 200 or more, he could be in serious danger right at the beginning.

:spit: :haha: :worship:

:yeah:

Nadull_tard
03-16-2011, 11:51 AM
Hell no, this move would magnify the amount of mugs and semi-amateurs who dream only about a handshake with Nadal or Fed.

Yves.
03-16-2011, 12:33 PM
Yes good idea! Also make it a three week event, with on the first three days qualifying and naturally a Thursday start

krakenzero
03-16-2011, 01:00 PM
I don't know why is everyone complaining about needing 3 weeks for completing a 256 draw Slam. At this point, we could simply make weeks 2 days longer. How about Byeday and Mugsday?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXmKPMaHMo

krakenzero
03-16-2011, 01:11 PM
To the point: The main problem here is IW and Miami making draws of 96 players, and making together a month of tournaments. If both had 64 players they could make one week tournaments each, making a lot of extra-time for players who:
A) Are top 64 and were defeated early in IW and Miami and want to prepare themselves for claycourt season.
B) Are top 64 and were defeated early in IW and Miami and want to goof around and have a small vacation before the toughest part of the season.
C) Are not top 64, didn't have real chances of making a breaktrough during IW and Miami and could play ATP and challengers during that month to improve their rankings before claycourt season.
D) Are top players, go far in IW and Miami and want an extra rest-week before the Clay Masters.

Also, the possibility of gaining two weeks for ATP tournaments could help "relaxing" a little the extremely tight ATP calendar.

Ertl93
03-16-2011, 01:16 PM
never

jcempire
03-16-2011, 01:23 PM
Crazy!!!! Of course Not. Energy runs out.

what we should do is.....to make Indian Wells or Miami the fifth Slam. It's already 128 in draws... I know first Round Bye for Seed. but why not change it to another slam or.....avoid the first round Bye for Top 32

out_here_grindin
03-16-2011, 02:06 PM
Halving the amount of seeds is what should be done. This is a mug era where the increased amount of seeds make it easier to win Grand Slam titles.

That doesn't really add up. You may get harder 1st and 2nd round matches but how often are the top guys gonna lose that early anyway? 32 seeds is the right amount

Blackbriar
03-16-2011, 02:13 PM
To the point: The main problem here is IW and Miami making draws of 96 players, and making together a month of tournaments. If both had 64 players they could make one week tournaments each, making a lot of extra-time for players who:
A) Are top 64 and were defeated early in IW and Miami and want to prepare themselves for claycourt season.
B) Are top 64 and were defeated early in IW and Miami and want to goof around and have a small vacation before the toughest part of the season.
C) Are not top 64, didn't have real chances of making a breaktrough during IW and Miami and could play ATP and challengers during that month to improve their rankings before claycourt season.
D) Are top players, go far in IW and Miami and want an extra rest-week before the Clay Masters.

Also, the possibility of gaining two weeks for ATP tournaments could help "relaxing" a little the extremely tight ATP calendar.

absolutely true. IW & Miami have no sense nowadays, 2 weeks of play lost for many players. Not everyone is Nadal and can be sure to play till the end of the tourny. Make them 64-man and that's it.

fast_clay
03-16-2011, 02:14 PM
it's too dangerous, figure, if Murray faced guy ranked 200 or more, he could be in serious danger right at the beginning.
:spit: :haha: :worship:

:yeah:

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vn01
03-16-2011, 02:16 PM
No.

Quadruple Tree
03-16-2011, 02:30 PM
No, they need to get rid of some seeds. Go back to 16 so that we have some good matchups in earlier rounds.

nobama
03-16-2011, 02:32 PM
No, they need to get rid of some seeds. Go back to 16 so that we have some good matchups in earlier rounds.So all the good players take each other out before the later rounds. I'm sure the TV networks would love that.

GlennMirnyi
03-16-2011, 03:56 PM
I don't know why is everyone complaining about needing 3 weeks for completing a 256 draw Slam. At this point, we could simply make weeks 2 days longer. How about Byeday and Mugsday?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXmKPMaHMo

Maybe we could adopt the French Republican Calendar and have 10 days in a week for that matter.

jrm
03-16-2011, 04:22 PM
if anything i see the decrease ...

Yukimura
03-16-2011, 04:52 PM
There are a lot of seeded mugs already...

Argenbrit
03-16-2011, 06:05 PM
Another vote for no.

Sapeod
03-16-2011, 06:16 PM
no need to increase the draws for slams,

but for Master Cup ( World tour final ) it may be interesting to increase the draw ( 16 players instead of 8 )
That's also a great idea.
YES YES YES YES. Best idea i've heard in a looong time. :kiss:world life:kiss:
World Life, huh?
Ok, who are/were you?it's too dangerous, figure, if Murray faced guy ranked 200 or more, he could be in serious danger right at the beginning.
:confused: ??

No, he wouldn't?
Murray's ranked #5, how would he be in danger right from the beginning? :confused:

fabolous
03-16-2011, 06:27 PM
no.
No, he wouldn't?
Murray's ranked #5, how would he be in danger right from the beginning? :confused:
with a 256 draw, donald young would have direct entrance to slams...

Sapeod
03-16-2011, 09:01 PM
And you think Murray would lose to him in a slam? :lol:

ossie
03-16-2011, 09:14 PM
there would be too many mugs with a draw that size.

Blackbriar
03-16-2011, 09:24 PM
after having lost to Donald? yeah, everything is possible.

LocoPorElTenis
03-16-2011, 09:25 PM
No. However a draw of 287 players, 36 dogs and 19 pigs would be appropriate.

Sapeod
03-16-2011, 09:39 PM
after having lost to Donald? yeah, everything is possible.
You are making too much of the loss....

Murray played terrible, Young played well...it was a one off.

Doomach777
03-16-2011, 09:42 PM
No