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Memphis R2: Milos -third set tiebreak GOAT- Raonic d. Stepanek 6-4, 6(10)-7, 7-6(1)

abraxas21
02-17-2011, 08:19 PM
Wasted a few match points in the second set but managed to pull out the in in the third set tiebreak.

38 aces and over 80% first serve points won for the Canadian GOAT.

Another game for Milos!

KeiNishikoriCro
02-17-2011, 08:19 PM
What a great match!!Raonic had 38 aces omg:worship::worship:

But feel sorry for Steps!

DrJules
02-17-2011, 08:21 PM
Serve was the difference.

Raonic with 38 aces and Stepanek with only 8 aces in 3 sets.

http://www.protennislive.com/frameset.asp?year=2011&wkno=7&lang=en&tabno=2&eventid=M003&ref=www.atpworldtour.com

Silvester
02-17-2011, 08:21 PM
ace count is ridiculous.

cellophane
02-17-2011, 08:21 PM
Ace machine :yawn:

tennisfan856
02-17-2011, 08:21 PM
i wonder why you didn't post the third set tiebreak score lol?

Stepanek high-fiving line judges for his first point in the tiebreak, what a warrior

rubbERR
02-17-2011, 08:21 PM
would they cheer so much karlovic? no, memphis crowd are not smartest, both all serve mugs

LocoPorElTenis
02-17-2011, 08:21 PM
this has to be among the record number of aces for a 3 set match...

Johnny Groove
02-17-2011, 08:21 PM
King Milos.

38 aces, sweet Jesus :eek:

tennizen
02-17-2011, 08:22 PM
:worship: Sexy is too much fun too:lol:

tennishero
02-17-2011, 08:22 PM
i would rather withdraw then have to play this mug.

duong
02-17-2011, 08:22 PM
incredible how he can hit so many aces : he's not that tall comparing to Karlovic or Isner but his serves are really well placed.

He had many break points as well which he didn't convert (just like yesterday)

finishingmove
02-17-2011, 08:22 PM
unbeatable

Mistaflava
02-17-2011, 08:22 PM
would they cheer so much karlovic? no, memphis crowd are not smartest, both all serve mugs



you're an idiot. do you even watch tennis? His game is completely different and Raonic had to play late last night and then play again early this morning. Get a brain.

ultros8
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
i wonder why you didn't post the third set tiebreak score lol?

Stepanek high-fiving line judges for his first point in the tiebreak, what a warrior

Probably because this thread went up when the score was 6-0 ;)

KeiNishikoriCro
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
tennishero i see you dont like milos..hehe,...who is his next opponent??

zerocool_
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Another game for Milos! Keep it up :)

Ashlar77
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Wonderful way to rebound from not converting any of those 4 match points in the second set Milos! :worship: 38 aces, tournament record apparently! On to the quarters! :dance:

UsD.AnDreS
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Milos is a f....ing MAN. It's unbelievable. After such a tough loss at the 2nd set TB OUTSTANDING mentality for such a young guy... outrageous,baby

scoobs
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Well done to Milos - he could have let his head drop after losing 4mps in the second set breaker but he just knuckled down and pulled it out in another breaker.

I think by now he's got peoples' attention.

rubbERR
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
you're an idiot. do you even watch tennis? His game is completely different and Raonic had to play late last night and then play again early this morning. Get a brain.

their game is absolutely same, both pretty useless baseliners with couple fluke shots when opponent gets ball in play :lol:

Armless
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Lol at steps , so happy he didn't got baggeled in the 3rd TB that he high fived every linesman:)
Milos is rolling, 38 aces is crazy, his composure is great, no sign of fatigue. We might see another game for Milos , Kendrick in QF's.

tennisfan856
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Probably because this thread went up when the score was 6-0 ;)

:worship:

abraxas21
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Stepanek high-fiving line judges for his first point in the tiebreak, what a warrior

were you at the stadium?

viruzzz
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Omg He's Unstoppable :|

Mistaflava
02-17-2011, 08:23 PM
I love how he is a mug for winning matches. Who the fuck cares how he wins you mental baboons. The idea of tennis and any other sport is to win matches. Who are you to tell someone how to do it.

The average IQ of most members on this forum is no doubt close to 25.

Shirogane
02-17-2011, 08:24 PM
:worship:

n3gative
02-17-2011, 08:24 PM
scary to think where his serve will be in 2 years

Nadull_tard
02-17-2011, 08:24 PM
Given the age, Raonic resembles young Nadal in mental toughness, especially being so clutch on big points. There's a great future ahead of this player.

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2011, 08:24 PM
Another game for Milooooos :D
:lol: at Stepanek high fiving the linejudges

duong
02-17-2011, 08:25 PM
I like his forehand movement, also his serve movement, I can't say the same for Karlovic and Isner (even if the latter can also have an impressive forehand)

problem is with his backhand esp as he can't lean effectively his long legs :lol:

ssin
02-17-2011, 08:25 PM
Play TB against Milos and you are screwed. Didn't watch the match. :(

Mistaflava
02-17-2011, 08:25 PM
their game is absolutely same, both pretty useless baseliners with couple fluke shots when opponent gets ball in play :lol:



he's winning matches, please explain to me how it matters how he does it? Would you prefer he change his game a bit and maybe give you handjobs in between sets? I don't get it.

Voo de Mar
02-17-2011, 08:25 PM
this has to be among the record number of aces for a 3 set match...

The 4th best if we're talking about 'the best of three' matches (44 - Phlippoussis vs. B.Black, 43 - Fish vs. O.Rochus, 40 - Ivanisevic vs. M.Norman) :wavey:

KeiNishikoriCro
02-17-2011, 08:25 PM
I didnt watched the whole match..but mates..38 aces is just insane..it is like karlovic in his best ages..i dont know to whom can i compare raonic else?

Doomach777
02-17-2011, 08:25 PM
I dont like that guy -.-

rubbERR
02-17-2011, 08:26 PM
scary to think where his serve will be in 2 years

it peaked already, confidence does miracles

SwiSha
02-17-2011, 08:26 PM
bravo milos

Shirogane
02-17-2011, 08:26 PM
i wonder why you didn't post the third set tiebreak score lol?

Stepanek high-fiving line judges for his first point in the tiebreak, what a warrior

:worship: :rolls:

tennisfan856
02-17-2011, 08:26 PM
were you at the stadium?

stream

Johnny Groove
02-17-2011, 08:27 PM
he's winning matches, please explain to me how it matters how he does it? Would you prefer he change his game a bit and maybe give you handjobs in between sets? I don't get it.

:spit:

abraxas21
02-17-2011, 08:27 PM
The 4th best if we're talking about 'the best of three' matches (44 - Phlippoussis vs. B.Black, 43 - Fish vs. O.Rochus, 40 - Ivanisevic vs. M.Norman) :wavey:

surprised that fish is in the list

v-money
02-17-2011, 08:27 PM
Second set tiebreak was awesome. Third set tiebreak was terrible. Good win by Raonic. Great serve, also hit some clean winners straight off the serve. Struggled more when the rally had 5+ shots. His movement is still not great, but when he's in position he has a nice ground game.

KeiNishikoriCro
02-17-2011, 08:27 PM
i think that canada has new tennis top 10 player for an year or two


btw/doomach is your surname maybe buzjak??

KoOlMaNsEaN
02-17-2011, 08:27 PM
This match was of course all about the serve. Milos had the better, more consistent serve and it led him to victory(albeit an hour later than I thought)

scoobs
02-17-2011, 08:27 PM
Of course his serve is the dominant weapon but he has a very effective forehand which generates a lot of winners, the backhand is pretty solid and occasionally flashy, he can volley, he can defend pretty well, he moves pretty well.

He's got game.

abraxas21
02-17-2011, 08:28 PM
stream

where? i couldn't find any :(

viruzzz
02-17-2011, 08:28 PM
Given the age, Raonic resembles young Nadal in mental toughness, especially being so clutch on big points. There's a great future ahead of this player.

Thank god this isn't true.

SwiSha
02-17-2011, 08:28 PM
I love how he is a mug for winning matches. Who the fuck cares how he wins you mental baboons. The idea of tennis and any other sport is to win matches. Who are you to tell someone how to do it.

The average IQ of most members on this forum is no doubt close to 25.

tell em Flava.....

rubbERR
02-17-2011, 08:28 PM
he's winning matches, please explain to me how it matters how he does it? Would you prefer he change his game a bit and maybe give you handjobs in between sets? I don't get it.

your fantasy aint my fantasy

Mistaflava
02-17-2011, 08:29 PM
i think that canada has new tennis top 10 player for an year or two


btw/doomach is your surname maybe buzjak??



Canada has never had a TOP 50 ranked male I believe so yes this is big. I'm not sure though.

tennisfan856
02-17-2011, 08:29 PM
where? i couldn't find any :(

livescorehunter.com, the ustream one if you want to watch delpo.

duong
02-17-2011, 08:30 PM
where? i couldn't find any :(

livescorehunter had two ones, but unfortunately bad for me, I could hardly watch the 2nd set TB, only the score, was funny :lol:

philosophicalarf
02-17-2011, 08:30 PM
Big servers in Memphis are always fun. Aceaceaceaceaceaceaceace.

Sexy's lob to take the 2nd set tb was extremely sexy.

loopback
02-17-2011, 08:32 PM
very entertaining player this Milos

Voo de Mar
02-17-2011, 08:32 PM
Raonic has obtained amazing experience on the main tour in his last three matches:

- first '7-6 7-6' win
- first win(s) in the final set tie-break
- first win after losing a match point-up set

This two weeks in the United States really should help him in the future, with his style of play he will be involving many times to "match point" matches. I'm afraid he needs to improve his baseline game, today he looks like a Top 20 player, nothing more, really there's a little hope with his today's abilities that he'd be a competitive player for guys like Nadal, Federer, Djokovic or Murray... but he can beat Soderling 7-6 7-6 though :)

duong
02-17-2011, 08:33 PM
Of course his serve is the dominant weapon but he has a very effective forehand which generates a lot of winners, the backhand is pretty solid and occasionally flashy, he can volley, he can defend pretty well, he moves pretty well.

He's got game.

from what I saw also in Australia, he prefers when the bounce is higher for his ground game, because of his long legs and the fact that he takes his shots quite high and flat.

Not confident about him on low-bouncing grass, but well in Wimbledon second week, it's just good for him :lol:

rubbERR
02-17-2011, 08:34 PM
he will have tough time to win matches against decent players outdoor tournaments

duong
02-17-2011, 08:35 PM
Canada has never had a TOP 50 ranked male I believe so yes this is big. I'm not sure though.

number 53 at the moment, in the top-50 if he beats Kendrick

tennisfan856
02-17-2011, 08:35 PM
one thing ive noticed with his matches since watching him against the colonel, players don't like losing to him lol.

The handshakes are wickmayeresque

Mistaflava
02-17-2011, 08:35 PM
It sucks to lose to someone who is a) so good and b) humble as can be.

duong
02-17-2011, 08:37 PM
he will have tough time to win matches against decent players outdoor tournaments

as I said elsewhere he prefers a high bounce : that's why his baseline game was better in Australia,

then not sure about what you say.

fabolous
02-17-2011, 08:37 PM
good thing about the raonic run is that we see flava posting more in GM :devil:

scoobs
02-17-2011, 08:37 PM
from what I saw also in Australia, he prefers when the bounce is higher for his ground game, because of his long legs and the fact that he takes his shots quite high and flat.

Not confident about him on low-bouncing grass, but well in Wimbledon second week, it's just good for him :lol:
Yes I think we'll find out a lot about Milos as the year wears on. He did well in Australia where the courts are not particularly fast but do kick up. He's doing well in pretty fast indoor conditions. I will be interested to see how he does in IW and Miami, he'll almost certainly get WCs if he's not on the entry list because he missed the cutoff (not sure). The clay will be interesting to see how he copes with that, and then the lower bouncing grass. I'll bet Queens are already trying to get him to commit.

KeiNishikoriCro
02-17-2011, 08:38 PM
i just hope he is not one of the players who just had 2-3 weeks good results and then go to crappy challengers to win maybe 1-2 matches..

duong
02-17-2011, 08:40 PM
I will be interested to see how he does in IW and Miami, he'll almost certainly get WCs if he's not on the entry list because he missed the cutoff (not sure).

he missed the cutoff : wil need a WC or play qualies.

I don't expect anything on clay so far but I guess he will play there to practice, since I know that this winter he practiced in Spain.

Orka_n
02-17-2011, 08:44 PM
Real deal this Raonic. :)

Seingeist
02-17-2011, 08:47 PM
The average IQ of most members on this forum is no doubt close to 25.

That explains why most of the posts are over your head! :wavey:

Excellent from Milos here. Anyone who calls Raonic an all-serve mug hasn't watched him play. A lot of posters here seem to resent certain players simply for having a big serve.

Certinfy
02-17-2011, 08:49 PM
The way Stepanek saved one of the match points in the second set was fucking unreal! Best Tie-Break I've seen in absolute ages as well!

So happy Raonic won though, well deserved :yeah:

tennisfan856
02-17-2011, 08:49 PM
That explains why most of the posts are over your head! :wavey:

Excellent from Milos here. Anyone who calls Raonic an all-serve mug hasn't watched him play. A lot of posters here seem to resent certain players simply for having a big serve.

the service motion should be taught at all tennis clubs, it is textbook just like petzschner's (without the bitchy attitude). Unfortunately, not everyone has legs taller than people.

Certinfy
02-17-2011, 08:49 PM
i just hope he is not one of the players who just had 2-3 weeks good results and then go to crappy challengers to win maybe 1-2 matches..

With a serve like that I doubt he will be :yeah:

jonathancrane
02-17-2011, 08:50 PM
Amazing how mentally strong is this guy

cellophane
02-17-2011, 08:51 PM
That explains why most of the posts are over your head! :wavey:

Excellent from Milos here. Anyone who calls Raonic an all-serve mug hasn't watched him play. A lot of posters here seem to resent certain players simply for having a big serve.

That's because without his serve his baseline game would not stand up to top players.

MacTheKnife
02-17-2011, 08:51 PM
Nice easy flowing service motion. Not a lot of room for mistakes. The really scary part is the kid is NOT all serve.

KeiNishikoriCro
02-17-2011, 08:51 PM
certinfy then you should add another heart and write MR..hehehe

Blarghman
02-17-2011, 08:57 PM
Canada has never had a TOP 50 ranked male I believe so yes this is big. I'm not sure though.

There have been three top 50 ranked Canadian males, though no top 40; Michibata got to 48, Sznajder to 46 and Rusedski to 41, the top ranking, before he changed countries.

Milos, of course, certainly looks like going a lot higher than those marks.

timafi
02-17-2011, 09:12 PM
nice to see playboy lose;again:bigwave::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Fretchap
02-17-2011, 09:13 PM
Yeah! :) Keep it going Milos!

scoobs
02-17-2011, 09:15 PM
he missed the cutoff : wil need a WC or play qualies.

I don't expect anything on clay so far but I guess he will play there to practice, since I know that this winter he practiced in Spain.
If you were IW and Miami and you have 6 or 7 WCs to give out, wouldn't you want this guy at your event? I'd be amazed if they put him through quallies.

Shirogane
02-17-2011, 09:19 PM
That's because without his serve his baseline game would not stand up to top players.

He'd be as good as Agassi "if one took away his backhand" – Dre's own words after winning his match against Dr Ivo.

That's not to say the kid hasn't got game, because he does. More importantly, he'll keep improving.

barbadosan
02-17-2011, 09:23 PM
That's because without his serve his baseline game would not stand up to top players.

Hmm. Sampras seemed to have done ok with his serve and S&V. Must be possible to play tennis without baseline game only after all. BTW, when is the movement starting to abolish the serve, and just have the referee roll the ball into play? :rolleyes:

Voo de Mar
02-17-2011, 09:24 PM
surprised that fish is in the list

It shouldn't surprise you considering the scoreline and who Fish's opponent was ;)

cellophane
02-17-2011, 09:25 PM
Hmm. Sampras seemed to have done ok with his serve and S&V. Must be possible to play tennis without baseline game only after all. BTW, when is the movement starting to abolish the serve, and just have the referee roll the ball into play? :rolleyes:

You are saying Sampras has no baseline game? :lol:

Certinfy
02-17-2011, 09:25 PM
certinfy then you should add another heart and write MR..hehehe
:rolls: Why not, might as well hop onto this bandwagon :p

Mr. Oracle
02-17-2011, 10:52 PM
MEMPHIS:
I think MTF is about to become hysterical after this latest win by THE MILOS!

fast_clay
02-17-2011, 11:01 PM
holy shit... its another game for milos...

madmax
02-17-2011, 11:12 PM
another day, another game for Milos...
Soon this monster will be acing his way into slam win after slam win.
Who is gonna stop this cold-blooded assasin?

Henry Chinaski
02-17-2011, 11:53 PM
Stepanek forgot to bring his first serve to the tiebreaks. It was miracle he pulled out the first one. Some incredible rallies in that one.

He wasn't going to get away with making the same mistakes in the second breaker

Lee
02-17-2011, 11:59 PM
If you were IW and Miami and you have 6 or 7 WCs to give out, wouldn't you want this guy at your event? I'd be amazed if they put him through quallies.

Don't know about Miami but it will be really nice if Milos plays in IW. Lots of Canadians stay in the region this time of the year.

Henry Chinaski
02-18-2011, 12:03 AM
If you were IW and Miami and you have 6 or 7 WCs to give out, wouldn't you want this guy at your event? I'd be amazed if they put him through quallies.

he's the biggest story in tennis right now. It's a no brainer

green25814
02-18-2011, 12:06 AM
Goat server this Milos, he doesn't even have Ivo or big Jahn's height

barbadosan
02-18-2011, 12:09 AM
You are saying Sampras has no baseline game? :lol:

selective reading? or does "baseline game only" convey something different to you? Even so, one would be somewhat disinclined to tout the frequency of Sampras' baseline game vis a vis many players today

Mr. Oracle
02-18-2011, 12:45 AM
I dont like that guy -.-

Is someone in your room with you? Which guy?

djb84xi
02-18-2011, 12:59 AM
I gotta give it to this kid, he's playing well right now. The win over Stepanek was a good win, despite it going 3, so it was definitely no walk in the park for him. Having that monster serve was a big factor, because without it, I'm not sure he would've won. Nonetheless, I'm impressed with Milos. I still think it's rather early to go super-hyping this kid up. I'd rather see what he can do against more high quality opponents, at bigger events. That's when I'll know for sure what kind of future he really could be looking at on tour. Besides, none of us really knows for sure how his future will play itself out. Not trying to jinx him, but just being realistic, as a tennis fan. That's all.

GlennMirnyi
02-18-2011, 01:09 AM
Great result for Milos.

Topspindoctor
02-18-2011, 01:13 AM
You are saying Sampras has no baseline game? :lol:

He could be outrallied by any decent baseliner. There is a very good reason he never made a single RG final.

Sapeod
02-18-2011, 01:48 AM
38 aces....too big.

This kid is definitely top 10 this year....such a great player.

Dini
02-18-2011, 02:01 AM
It takes a lot more than serve to put on the 2011 run that he has. His display of mental fortitude this year has been very impressive so far. So many players would fold in the third set after having chances to close the match earlier in the second set.

Considering how relatively new he is to the ATP scene... staggering. I just hope this is not just a too good to be true spell and that he can keep this consistency up in the future. With this extremely fast learning curve, big match experience and that massive serve he'll always have some sort of insurance to get by the first rounds in tournaments.

The biggest tests are still ahead but you feel the future is bright.

GlennMirnyi
02-18-2011, 02:08 AM
He could be outrallied by any decent baseliner. There is a very good reason he never made a single RG final.

Typical :bs: only an absolute fanboy would say.

I guess Agassi wasn't a decent baseliner then. :lol:

What a dolt.

canuckfan
02-18-2011, 02:12 AM
38 aces....too big.

This kid is definitely top 10 this year....such a great player.

I think top 25 is more likely. To get to the top 10, you have to beat Fed, Nadal, Nole and Murray once in a while, and I don't think he'll be able to do that this year.

But still, we don't know how much and how fast he can improve. A year ago he was playing futures in Korea and three years ago he was struggling to win two matches in a row in the juniors.

By the way, his best result in the juniors (SF at the G1 Astrid Bowl) was on clay :lol:

Topspindoctor
02-18-2011, 02:13 AM
Typical :bs: only an absolute fanboy would say.

I guess Agassi wasn't a decent baseliner then. :lol:

What a dolt.

Who's talking about Agassi? :retard:

My point is Sampras failed on slow surfaces because he couldn't serve his way out of trouble. Stop fanboying and accept the truth. Sampras couldn't win RG because he couldn't last in rallies and his serve was nullified, simple as that. Furthermore he was stubborn as hell, trying to win RG "on his own terms" - S&V on second serves on clay :o Just shows how different he was compared to legend like Nadal who completely changed his game from a clay courter to all surface player to achieve the success that he currently enjoys.

Mungo
02-18-2011, 02:27 AM
If you were IW and Miami and you have 6 or 7 WCs to give out, wouldn't you want this guy at your event? I'd be amazed if they put him through quallies.

No way, the WC will go to...Donald Young!!! :worship:

Macbrother
02-18-2011, 02:36 AM
Raonic coming up with the goods, good to see.

rocketassist
02-18-2011, 02:37 AM
Who's talking about Agassi? :retard:

My point is Sampras failed on slow surfaces because he couldn't serve his way out of trouble. Stop fanboying and accept the truth. Sampras couldn't win RG because he couldn't last in rallies and his serve was nullified, simple as that. Furthermore he was stubborn as hell, trying to win RG "on his own terms" - S&V on second serves on clay :o Just shows how different he was compared to legend like Nadal who completely changed his game from a clay courter to all surface player to achieve the success that he currently enjoys.

Sampras would love today's clay- it was way slower in the 90s. And he won two Australian Opens and Rome so he had some degree of success on slower courts.

As for his baseline game, his forehand (on the run in particular) was class. His backhand was a weakness especially on clay, but he had enough to cover for it.

Nadal changed fuck all, except step in more on grass and be more aggressive.

Vinceten
02-18-2011, 02:53 AM
Milos :worship:

thrust
02-18-2011, 03:13 AM
i would rather withdraw then have to play this mug.

Of course you would, as you would not win a point and never touch his serve-lol!! Seriously though, his game is more than just a great serve. Annacone should be coaching him now. He could be the next Sampras. What I really like about him is his cool temperment. Keep it up Milos!!

Yukimura
02-18-2011, 03:17 AM
Another game for Milos!!!!!
He's gonna win a slam before braveheart.

BigJohn
02-18-2011, 03:33 AM
Canada has never had a TOP 50 ranked male I believe so yes this is big. I'm not sure though.

Big indeed, but Lareau-Nestor did win gold in Sydney.

Getting a bit patriotically excited about a genuine Canadian contender in singles is unheard of.

Deivid23
02-18-2011, 09:11 AM
Milos :yeah:

Blackbriar
02-18-2011, 09:31 AM
Everybody was waiting for Dimitrov, and finally it is Raonic who will be the top young player.

duong
02-18-2011, 09:44 AM
Seriously though, his game is more than just a great serve. Annacone should be coaching him now. He could be the next Sampras.

his style, esp his flat forehand, the level of his serve, reminds me a little bit of Sampras, I mean it's a kind of fame he used to play and which we are not used to anymore, however he's extremely far from Sampras's level of course :lol:

Mungo
02-18-2011, 11:38 AM
He reminds me of Philippoussis, comparing him to Sampras is a stretch.

moon language
02-18-2011, 11:46 AM
He could be outrallied by any decent baseliner. There is a very good reason he never made a single RG final.

Clueless.

Lopez
02-18-2011, 03:44 PM
He should really play a 1-hander with his forward-moving game, we'll see how he does. Somewhere I've heard a Sampras-quote, not sure if it's genuine though: "My career would have been similar to Todd Martin's if I would've had a two-hander".

On topic of Milos, great to see this kid play so well. And the people bitching about his serve, please :lol:. Huge hypocrites, most of them are the first to defend "pushers" and "moonballers" with comments like "There are more ways than one to play tennis!". Suddenly there aren't when we're talking about good servers :scratch.

Lopez
02-18-2011, 03:50 PM
Who's talking about Agassi? :retard:

My point is Sampras failed on slow surfaces because he couldn't serve his way out of trouble. Stop fanboying and accept the truth. Sampras couldn't win RG because he couldn't last in rallies and his serve was nullified, simple as that. Furthermore he was stubborn as hell, trying to win RG "on his own terms" - S&V on second serves on clay :o Just shows how different he was compared to legend like Nadal who completely changed his game from a clay courter to all surface player to achieve the success that he currently enjoys.

Sampras' biggest problem on clay was his movement. He had enough power and consistency on the baseline, but he wouldn't move as well on the dirt as he did on other surfaces. A lot of North Americans have a problem with that.

Shirogane
02-18-2011, 04:46 PM
Movement, and stamina over two weeks on clay.

Mungo
02-18-2011, 07:49 PM
Movement, and stamina over two weeks on clay.

...and backhand. In other words, he wasn't outstanding in long rallies.