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Another game for Milos! Raonic mocks Verdasco 7/6 7/6

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GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 02:03 AM
wUaMzsNKR7Q

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Amazing mental fortitude by Fiasco.

Raonic! :worship:

rubbERR
02-14-2011, 02:03 AM
discusting, losing to all serve mug who sucks on baseline, any decent just toying him side to side so easily

puppy555
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
Great win by Raonic, but wtf was with the yell on the last point? Really should have replayed that...

Young 8
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
Ah Ah Ah


What a loser


:lol::lol::lol:

SheepleBuster
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
As good as a double bagel :)

Thanos
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
another title for milos :rocker2:

viruzzz
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
NID.

This kid is so cool.

And if u don't like big serves, u could just fuck off :)

Yappa
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
Who was that idiot who screamed when Raonic hit that serve at mp?
Not a good way to win that match.

malisha
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
good

emotion
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
Disgusting umpiring on MP

Caio_Brasil
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
discusting, losing to all serve mug who sucks on baseline

saying Raonic sucks on baseline is obviously not right

navy75
02-14-2011, 02:04 AM
Milos is a great player who is going to go VERY far, so congrats to him.

However, that first set collapse by Verdasco just turned me off for life. A top ten player blowing a 6-2 lead against a player in his very first final is completely inexcusable. Verdasco just flat out choked with the dumbest shots ever after having four set points.

Ilovetheblues_86
02-14-2011, 02:05 AM
Another Tournament For Milos!!!!

.-Federers_Mate-.
02-14-2011, 02:05 AM
Verdasco played his worst match of the season and Milos took advantage. Props to him.

tennishero
02-14-2011, 02:05 AM
:zzz: we dont need another karlovic on tour.

puppy555
02-14-2011, 02:06 AM
saying Raonic sucks on baseline is obviously not right

It's not, but honestly Raonic was mostly being bossed around on the baseline during the match. He was definitely lucky that Verdasco had a massive brain fart in the first tiebreak and dropped his level in the second.

zlaja777
02-14-2011, 02:06 AM
Congratulations Miloš...finally a proper youngster on tour.

jeremda01
02-14-2011, 02:06 AM
verdasco sticks the finger up!

philosophicalarf
02-14-2011, 02:06 AM
Verdasco won 84% of points on 1st serve ..... and 84% on 2nd serve. He wasn't even serving anywhere near full pace since he knew he could hold so easily.

Karlovic got 19% of return points against Verdaco in R2, Raonic managed 16%.

Awesome mess he made of the first tiebreak though, 4 setpoints and loses the next 6 points.

MilosSs
02-14-2011, 02:06 AM
:zzz: we dont need another karlovic on tour.

we don't need you too so buzz off

acheng
02-14-2011, 02:06 AM
So proud of him :)
The idiot who screamed on match point should be fined! No respect

Smoke944
02-14-2011, 02:06 AM
Bad Religion will enter this thread and post something about how Verdasco is a useless player, should have never been anywhere near the top-10, etc. And you know what? He/she is right.
Pure comedy from Verdasco, just doesn't have the mentality to be a high level professional tennis player.
Only thing funnier than Fiasco's play is the fact that both commentators think Raonic will be a world number 1 multiple slam winner :spit: :lol:
Quite a lucky result for Raonic, honestly.

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:07 AM
first Canadian Male to win an ATP Tennis tournament since 1995.

Lee
02-14-2011, 02:07 AM
Great composure for someone in his first ATP final! :worship:

and with less than 10 wins on tour level.

Leo
02-14-2011, 02:07 AM
Disgusting umpiring on MP

Ump made the right call. There are no concessions made to sound from the stands. It's not like a plastic bag or towel blowing onto the court or a microphone going off on the court. It's shit luck for Verdasco but that's life.

Will be interesting to see if Verdy plays San Jose next year after this incident. :lol:

Milos very impressive. I picked him to win before today and I'm not surprised by this performance. The way he moves about the court and composes himself between points reminds me of Pete Sampras.

tennizen
02-14-2011, 02:07 AM
Well done Raonic. Amazing that he got his first title so quickly:worship:

ZaZoo)
02-14-2011, 02:08 AM
Milos took out the trash in 2 as predicted..

Johnny Groove
02-14-2011, 02:08 AM
Terrible terrible choke my Verdasco from 6-2 up in that tiebreak.

As for the fan who screamed at mp, nothing you can do.

Arkulari
02-14-2011, 02:08 AM
Raonic has quite the mental fortitude (Cilic should watch how the Canadian plays TB :lol: )
and was a deserving winner, it's nice to see new blood coming up after having years of shitty overhyped youngsters :yeah:

Nando blew up the first TB completely, losing 4 SP against an inexperienced opponent in his first final? :o

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:08 AM
Let's get this straight. Sure his return game needs some work but the kid is not a highly touted prospect and Brad Gilbert among others said they would love to work with him. He is brand new on the tennis scene and has not had the proper training or coaching just yet but still managed to win an ATP Tournament in only his second career final at any tennis level.

Very impressed.

Miss Molly
02-14-2011, 02:08 AM
Verdasco is a jerk. Raonic isn't the one who yelled it was someone in the crowd. Has he never dealt with noise from a fan before?

Way to go, Milos!!!!!!!!!!!!

nobama
02-14-2011, 02:09 AM
hot sauce :o in both TBs.

Corey Feldman
02-14-2011, 02:09 AM
stay classy with the handshakes after you lose matches Verdasco :lol:

i dedicate this one to FlameOn, hope you are shaking mad with rage more than ever lolz

Pirata.
02-14-2011, 02:09 AM
Really happy for Milos :hug: I would've been fine with Fernando winning too, but Milos has been playing so well lately and he really deserved this.

Fernando could also learn a thing or two from Milos about how to stay calm and maintain a collected attitude. I'm getting really fed up at him bitching after every missed shot and not shaking the umpire's hand after he loses.

tennishero
02-14-2011, 02:10 AM
we don't need you too so buzz off

same for you.. and get a clue, you have none.

buddyholly
02-14-2011, 02:10 AM
Disgusting umpiring on MP

What did you expect the umpire to do? Have you ever seen an umpire play a let due to crowd stupidity?

The only thing an umpire can do after that is ask for quiet during play. In this case there was no more play?

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 02:10 AM
Ump made the right call. There are no concessions made to sound from the stands. It's not like a plastic bag or towel blowing onto the court or a microphone going off on the court. It's shit luck for Verdasco but that's life.

Will be interesting to see if Verdy plays San Jose next year after this incident. :lol:

Milos very impressive. I picked him to win before today and I'm not surprised by this performance. The way he moves about the court and composes himself between points reminds me of Pete Sampras.

Yep.

Fiasco was just mocked out there by Raonic's serve, by the way.

buddyholly
02-14-2011, 02:10 AM
Looking forward to Milos at Wimbledon.

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:10 AM
Now they have to play each other again in Memphis. Verdasco will probably withdraw.

Mungo
02-14-2011, 02:10 AM
LMAO at Clownando, who was the guy playing his first final here? Chokers with little balls always deserve to lose.

tennisgolfguru
02-14-2011, 02:10 AM
The kid is going to be good - the BH needs some work but he is cool and mature - if he keeps working I see him doing big things in a couple years. Good job!

Regenbogen
02-14-2011, 02:11 AM
Nice. :D

Let the bandwagon roll on.

ssin
02-14-2011, 02:13 AM
wow.
few points:

* Raonic won and Verdasco wasn't playing that bad, I actually think he even scored more points
* Raonic is clutch, cool as ice and has a heart of a winner and champion. He was calm and collected unlike the headcase Verdasco
* Technically, Raonic has a looong way to go... his movement and backhand among other things are still not quite there, but his calmness at crucial points and his killer instinct are right there, a new star has been born
* Verdasco can't finish he is definitely a headcase, which is something that prevented many from being true champions. He is still the better player, but tennis is more than that, the mind game.

chenx15
02-14-2011, 02:14 AM
i like Milos and his serve will take him far but he really needs to work more on his back hand.

Let's go Canucks!!!
Verdasco's finger that was pretty bad though. but that is part of the game i guess

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:14 AM
wow.
few points:

* Raonic won and Verdasco wasn't playing that bad, I actually think he even scored more points
* Raonic is clutch, cool as ice and has a heart of a winner and champion. He was calm and collected unlike the headcase Verdasco
* Technically, Raonic has a looong way to go... his movement and backhand among other things are still not quite there, but his calmness at crucial points and his killer instinct are right there, a new star has been born
* Verdasco can't finish he is definitely a headcase, which is something that prevented many from being true champions. He is still the better player, but tennis is more than that, the mind game.



His career record in tiebreakers pretty much sums up everything you just mentioned. Raonic is the complete opposite.

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 02:15 AM
MILOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSS !!!!!

Voo de Mar
02-14-2011, 02:16 AM
Great composure for someone in his first ATP final! :worship:

and with less than 10 wins on tour level.

His 8th tournament on the main level.

:yeah: Raonic has great mentality, I'm not convinced he's a material for a Grand Slam champion but should be a distinctive player in the next few years, at least everywhere outside clay, I doubt he would be a threat on European clay-courts.

chenx15
02-14-2011, 02:16 AM
Looking forward to Milos at Wimbledon.

yup a legitimate S&V guy in wimbledon!!! love it and canadian too!!!

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:17 AM
the last two canadian men to win ATP tournaments (Rusedski in 1995 and Raonic in 2011) weren't even born in Canada. WTF?!?!?!

Pirata.
02-14-2011, 02:17 AM
Maple syrup and the sharks jersey :haha:

chenx15
02-14-2011, 02:18 AM
the commentators clearly showing they were one sided though. it felt like young pete sampras was playing verdasco the way they were commenting

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:18 AM
Ohio girl where is my hug? I have some Canadian in me.

jeremda01
02-14-2011, 02:18 AM
Why can't australia have a player like milos????:confused: :o :sad:

Ten_Isse_Fan
02-14-2011, 02:19 AM
LOVE the attitude and the composure. Congrats !

ibreak4coffee
02-14-2011, 02:20 AM
Let's get this straight. Sure his return game needs some work but the kid is not a highly touted prospect and Brad Gilbert among others said they would love to work with him. He is brand new on the tennis scene and has not had the proper training or coaching just yet but still managed to win an ATP Tournament in only his second career final at any tennis level.

Very impressed.

He's been at the Canadian National Tennis Center since 2007, trained all winter in Barcelona with some of the top Spanish tennis players, and is coached by Galo Blanco now.

I cant wait for the jokes about the fact there is a Canadian National Tennis Center, but this is not out of nowhere - its the result of years of investment in him.

But you're right - he can go much higher with more work

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:20 AM
Why can't australia have a player like milos????:confused: :o :sad:



you've had Hewitt for years. this is the first ever respectable Canadian player on the men's side.

FlameOn
02-14-2011, 02:21 AM
Fuck you Nando. :wavey:

cellophane
02-14-2011, 02:21 AM
Big serve wins :yawn: Boring...

ibreak4coffee
02-14-2011, 02:21 AM
Maple syrup and the sharks jersey :haha:

Seriously... he should have given them a Verdasco angry look when all that came out. How many cliches can you cram into one awards ceremony. Typical Americans... ;)

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:22 AM
He's been at the Canadian National Tennis Center since 2007, trained all winter in Barcelona with some of the top Spanish tennis players, and is coached by Galo Blanco now.

I cant wait for the jokes about the fact there is a Canadian National Tennis Center, but this is not out of nowhere - its the result of years of investment in him.

But you're right - he can go much higher with more work



Sure he's know to the hardcore Canadian tennis followers (all 50 of them) but to the tennis world he was a virtual nobody until the Australian Open. Other guys like Djokovic and Murray and Dolgopolov we heard about 1-2 years prior to their dominance in the sport or even their first career tournament win for that matter.

ibreak4coffee
02-14-2011, 02:22 AM
you've had Hewitt for years. this is the first ever respectable Canadian player on the men's side.

We've had three guys in the top 50 - last time I checked that was respectable. Milos is the first potential star... but we've seen respectable before

philosophicalarf
02-14-2011, 02:24 AM
Raonic racked up quite a few wins the end of last year - he gave Nadal a pretty good game in Tokyo for example. The real addicts remember him from Canada Masters 2009.

Voo de Mar
02-14-2011, 02:24 AM
After his post-match speech I have to say he's very good character, cool, smart and honest, good for the game, I hope he will attack the net more in the future though.

Dini
02-14-2011, 02:26 AM
Raonic's temperament has been very impressive this tournament and AO too, of course (which begs the question how the heck he he lost to Greul, but nvm.). His serve is golden and he is mostly looking to be aggressive and finish it off on his own terms and I really like to see that mindset being prominent in his game. However, he got more and more defensive as the set went on as demonstrated by the sixth point in the TB where he was hitting midcourt shots waiting for the Verdasco error (which came of course). Maybe in other circumstances he wouldn't have got away with it. I was really glad to see him go for the big shot with the forehand down the line to set the MP, though. With what he has right now he has shown that he is very dangerous.

He's definitely a talent that can turn into something the history books will remember for a long time (ROS and BH will improve with time you feel). Worth staying up for to 03:25 in the morning for sure. :p

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:26 AM
We've had three guys in the top 50 - last time I checked that was respectable. Milos is the first potential star... but we've seen respectable before


let's hear some names. Anyone between 1995 and 2011 doesn't belong on the list since none of them ever won an atp tournament. Please don't tell me Dancevic.

Billabong
02-14-2011, 02:26 AM
YEAHHHHH congrats Milos for your first ATP title, awesome victory for our country:woohoo:!!!!! Keep it up champ:bounce::yeah::aparty:!!!!!

ibreak4coffee
02-14-2011, 02:27 AM
Sure he's know to the hardcore Canadian tennis followers (all 50 of them) but to the tennis world he was a virtual nobody until the Australian Open. Other guys like Djokovic and Murray and Dolgopolov we heard about 1-2 years prior to their dominance in the sport or even their first career tournament win for that matter.

You said he had no proper training. That's very different from being well known to non-Canadian tennis followers

Deivid23
02-14-2011, 02:28 AM
Great job, Milos, congrats. :yeah:

Good old Fer :lol: What a choke in that 1st tb :o

Looks like it΄s true those guys bashing Raonic were fucking tools. He is about to become a a top 50 player as expected, u clueless donuts :worship:

Blarghman
02-14-2011, 02:28 AM
Milos :woohoo:

He didn't play all that well, but was good in the big moments. His composure has the most impressive thing that's made the difference in the last couple of months. Verdasco helped out with some poor play at those moments, especially in that first set TB.

I'm blown away by how fast he's come up. I thought that he would have a solid breakthrough season, and that he might be around #50 by the end of the year. To see him nearly there in a couple of months is unbelievable.

coasterman9
02-14-2011, 02:29 AM
great job for Milos :worship:. He has top 10 potential in my mind.

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 02:30 AM
Has there ever been a Canadian male in the TOP 10?

SK-
02-14-2011, 02:30 AM
Well done Milos,great game :)

Blarghman
02-14-2011, 02:32 AM
Has there ever been a Canadian male in the TOP 10?

Highest ever ranked Canadian man was Rusedski, who got to #41 while representing Canada.

Voo de Mar
02-14-2011, 02:32 AM
Raonic becomes the first man born in the 90's to win an ATP title.

jadey
02-14-2011, 02:32 AM
Good Job Milos :bigclap: 1st title of many to come hopefully . Nando was so pissed .

DirtyDirty
02-14-2011, 02:33 AM
Awesome job Milos, great composure in the big moments, maybe he should give lessons to Verdasco. Movement is definitely a liability though.

Now take out the trash again in Memphis and get into top 50.

Scotso
02-14-2011, 02:33 AM
This Raonic is good. :yeah:

Too bad for Fer.

tennisgolfguru
02-14-2011, 02:35 AM
Raonic becomes the first man born in the 90's to win an ATP title.

Really? that's an interesting fact - cool.

ibreak4coffee
02-14-2011, 02:36 AM
let's hear some names. Anyone between 1995 and 2011 doesn't belong on the list since none of them ever won an atp tournament. Please don't tell me Dancevic.

Rusedski, Michibata, and Sznajder. Nestor reached 58 as well before focusing on doubles.

Bad Religion
02-14-2011, 02:37 AM
Verdasco is the biggest mug on tour , but you already know that :D

What a loser :lol:

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 02:37 AM
Is Raonic the new Glenn Michibata?

jeremda01
02-14-2011, 02:40 AM
you've had Hewitt for years. this is the first ever respectable Canadian player on the men's side.

hewitt isn't as likable has milos is, when hewitt was milos's age, hewitt was a brat on court, now everyone goes for hewitt just cause there is no one else to got for, hopefully saville goes to ATP in less than 3 years :S cause he's a likable kid

ibreak4coffee
02-14-2011, 02:41 AM
hewitt isn't as likable has milos is, when hewitt was milos's age, hewitt was a brat on court, now everyone goes for hewitt just cause there is no one else to got for, hopefully saville goes to ATP in less than 3 years :S cause he's a likable kid

Yeah but Milos will never reach number one or play like Hewitt did in the 2001 US Open Final

Voo de Mar
02-14-2011, 02:41 AM
Really? that's an interesting fact - cool.

And he is the youngest ATP winner since 2008 when Nishikori won in Delray Beach.

SK-
02-14-2011, 02:43 AM
Rašović pointed out that the ATP tournaments Raonić right to play a Montenegrin flag can obtain very quickly.
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=10775072&postcount=816

Voo de Mar
02-14-2011, 02:46 AM
Nando was so pissed .

He showed his middle finger to someone in the stands :D Nando was very unfortunate, that scream from the stands could distract him in the moment of Raonic's serve, but should blame only himself for choking in the first tie-break.

Pirata.
02-14-2011, 02:50 AM
He showed his middle finger to someone in the stands :D Nando was very unfortunate, that scream from the stands could distract him in the moment of Raonic's serve, but should blame only himself for choking in the first tie-break.

:o

His attitude on court is so ugly to see sometimes. Went a long period last year (Cincy to Shanghai, I think) where he refused to shake the umpire's hands after his losses.

jeremda01
02-14-2011, 02:50 AM
Yeah but Milos will never reach number one or play like Hewitt did in the 2001 US Open Final

very true, maybe my original comment should have been about his character. :)

tektonac
02-14-2011, 02:51 AM
hewitt isn't as likable has milos is, when hewitt was milos's age, hewitt was a brat on court, now everyone goes for hewitt just cause there is no one else to got for, hopefully saville goes to ATP in less than 3 years :S cause he's a likable kid

b. tomic has fine prospects for a bright tennis future.

n8
02-14-2011, 02:57 AM
I don't mind having a big server winning titles. When I remember how things were back at the change of the century the occasional really big server doesn't worry me. Raonic may be the first 90s born player to win a title, but 2008 Delray Beach winner Nishikori was born just 3 days before the beginning of the 90s.

maratsmaiden
02-14-2011, 02:59 AM
I enjoyed the match... thought Raonic played very well and came up big with his serves when it mattered - make no mistakes, that takes guts, especially considering he was playing Verdasco for his first title... I'll admit, I'm impressed by him and hope to see continued success. His forehands are very impressive along with that serve... yes, movement and bh need work, but, the kid has got game for sure.

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 02:59 AM
how much does the kid get for winning the final? only info i found was for total tournament.

anyone know where one can find complete prize money info for ATP tour not just total tournament prize money?

chammer44
02-14-2011, 03:00 AM
Atrocious return of serve on Raonic. Truly stinking rancid shit bad.


But he will be dangerous, especially to big name players that can't keep their heads, like...well, like Verdasco.lol

Greatest moment in Canadian tennis since Nestor beat Edberg(yes that Edberg) in some irrelevant tournie way back in the day.

jeremda01
02-14-2011, 03:00 AM
b. tomic has fine prospects for a bright tennis future.


hmmmm, i dont like tomic's footwork...its just not working for him either. every year tomic has good results (or thereabouts) in Australia but then plays very mediocore for the rest of the year. if he doesn't break in the top 150 by the end of the year his future isn't looking tooooo good.

milos went from 150ish to 60ish in the span of about 3-4 months-ish. tomic, i belive, won't do that. tomic's service is also way too rushed. he doesn't have a good rythm.

chenx15
02-14-2011, 03:03 AM
how much does the kid get for winning the final? only info i found was for total tournament.

anyone know where one can find complete prize money info for ATP tour not just total tournament prize money?

i heard during the announcement that he will take home 92,000 US dollars

tektonac
02-14-2011, 03:04 AM
how much does the kid get for winning the final? only info i found was for total tournament.

anyone know where one can find complete prize money info for ATP tour not just total tournament prize money?

92K.

http://tinyurl.com/6lxujqz

Lee
02-14-2011, 03:04 AM
how much does the kid get for winning the final? only info i found was for total tournament.

anyone know where one can find complete prize money info for ATP tour not just total tournament prize money?

92,000USD

You can find the price money in the draw sheet.

osmonde
02-14-2011, 03:07 AM
Really? that's an interesting fact - cool.

how much does the kid get for winning the final? only info i found was for total tournament.

anyone know where one can find complete prize money info for ATP tour not just total tournament prize money?
92,000$ winner
For details: skroll to click on prizes:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/San-Jose.aspx

KoOlMaNsEaN
02-14-2011, 03:09 AM
Amazing Result for Milos and CANADA
:bounce::bounce:
Congratulations and I hope you keep moving upwards!

nellis_lv
02-14-2011, 03:17 AM
I think he was clearly nervous when he saw how hard Verdasco was coming at him at the beginning of the match. You could see it in his face and in the way he was fidgeting with his racket. In the end, he handled it quite well.

Great head on his shoulders.

Congrats, Canada! I think America should adopt him since Canadians only know hockey, anyway. (I kid, I kid)

TMJordan
02-14-2011, 03:18 AM
LoL

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 03:21 AM
92,000USD

You can find the price money in the draw sheet.

sure enough its all there! thanks.

see the canuckistinians are out in full force in the thread!

tennisgolfguru
02-14-2011, 03:23 AM
hmmmm, i dont like tomic's footwork...its just not working for him either. every year tomic has good results (or thereabouts) in Australia but then plays very mediocore for the rest of the year. if he doesn't break in the top 150 by the end of the year his future isn't looking tooooo good.

milos went from 150ish to 60ish in the span of about 3-4 months-ish. tomic, i belive, won't do that. tomic's service is also way too rushed. he doesn't have a good rythm.

Good points - he loves to play in OZ but then sucks pretty much everywhere else - he is young still but I don't like his game at all - like Murray he has no weapons and I think is too enamored of himself - he has nothing to count on when it gets tough and i think the big boys will read him pretty well - Raonic has that serve and ability to stay calm. But then he is a bit older than tomic ...

osmonde
02-14-2011, 03:23 AM
Raonic coming back from 2-6 in TB was tremendous.
Followed his match plan, clever choices in shots, played percentage well and got the win. Champ mental toughness considering the circumstances.
Nice behaviours even in interview. Authentic.

Known as a hard worker in his 3 yrs at Canada Tennis Center.
"Work and will" is a winner signature.
Most of all, he believed he could do it, he dreamed of it and he did it.

As for Nando, on court, he answered the question about Milos, he talked of the way he knew him, but didn't salute his win. Pityful.

Milos did it, so the kid has better behaviours already than the 27yrs old veteran.

jeremda01
02-14-2011, 03:23 AM
milos smashing the rankings:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Milos-Raonic.aspx?t=rh

jeremda01
02-14-2011, 03:25 AM
Good points - he loves to play in OZ but then sucks pretty much everywhere else - he is young still but I don't like his game at all - like Murray he has no weapons and I think is too enamored of himself - he has nothing to count on when it gets tough and i think the big boys will read him pretty well - Raonic has that serve and ability to stay calm. But then he is a bit older than tomic ...

exactly, its his ability to stay calm which will grant him access to the top 5 eventually, playing like this.

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 03:28 AM
coincidentally looks like the kid made a cool $93k for his 4th round AO performance, nice!

n3gative
02-14-2011, 03:29 AM
Greatest moment in Canadian tennis since Nestor beat Edberg(yes that Edberg) in some irrelevant tournie way back in the day.

Davis Cup :wavey:

MalwareDie
02-14-2011, 03:30 AM
Yeeessss! Maybe I am being overly optimistic, but I believe Milos can beat Fiasco again as he is mentally stronger, and Memphis plays pretty quickly IIRC. Verdasco may very well double fault in crucial moments of the tiebreakers or make a slew of unforced errors

tennisgolfguru
02-14-2011, 03:30 AM
the last two canadian men to win ATP tournaments (Rusedski in 1995 and Raonic in 2011) weren't even born in Canada. WTF?!?!?!

Rusedski was born in Canada - he was Canadian through and through but sold his soul to the highest bidder - it's why Canadians don't like him and why Brits don't respect him.

chammer44
02-14-2011, 03:31 AM
Davis Cup :wavey:

Like I was saying.

Ouragan
02-14-2011, 03:34 AM
first Canadian Male to win an ATP Tennis tournament since 1995.

Dayum, talk of a dry spell. And he isn't even really Canadian

canuckfan
02-14-2011, 03:37 AM
milos smashing the rankings:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Milos-Raonic.aspx?t=rh

From 361st in the world to 59th in twelve months.

Not bad...

buddyholly
02-14-2011, 03:39 AM
the last two canadian men to win ATP tournaments (Rusedski in 1995 and Raonic in 2011) weren't even born in Canada. WTF?!?!?!

WTF your ignorant self! When did Quebec secede?

buddyholly
02-14-2011, 03:49 AM
Canadian participation on MTF just doubled!

Rogers Sportsnet must be cheering loudly. They just announced they have the rights to all 1000 and 500 tournaments. ESPN just sold their Canadian rights.

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 03:56 AM
Fiasco just whined after the match saying players who hit 145 mph all the time with their serves should play another sport.

:haha: :haha:

It's not his bloody business if you can't serve, Fiasco.

Blarghman
02-14-2011, 04:02 AM
Fiasco just whined after the match saying players who hit 145 mph all the time with their serves should play another sport.

:haha: :haha:

It's not his bloody business if you can't serve, Fiasco.

Players who lose four set points against a guy who's returning poorly should probably play another sport too :p

MalwareDie
02-14-2011, 04:03 AM
Fiasco just whined after the match saying players who hit 145 mph all the time with their serves should play another sport.

:haha: :haha:

It's not his bloody business if you can't serve, Fiasco.

Players who lose four set points against a guy who's returning poorly should probably play another sport too :p

:yeah:

allpro
02-14-2011, 04:07 AM
another game for milos!.....was there any question? was there any doubt? not in raonic's mind. this is one confident, driven young man. yes, verdasco can show lapses in concentration and go from the sublime to the awful in a heartbeat (i.e. 1st set tb), but all credit to milos for identifying the opportunity and executing. and it isn't just "all serve" that won him the title - raonic is incredibly mature, mentally tough and isn’t intimidated by big names. in short, the kid’s got balls the size of casaba melons.

well done and congratulations on your first title, milos :drink:

guichard
02-14-2011, 04:08 AM
WTF your ignorant self! When did Quebec secede?
Let's see now if Sportsnet shows his match on Wednesday night. They are supposed to start on Thursday.

FlameOn
02-14-2011, 04:16 AM
lol hate all you want. Nando deserves it today. I'm actually on the haters' side today! :haha:

ChinoRios4Ever
02-14-2011, 04:26 AM
Two words: mental giant! A true champ this Milos, keep goin' son :yeah:

Is Raonic the new Glenn Michibata?

He'll be better than him for sure. ;)

cutesteve22
02-14-2011, 04:28 AM
winning title without playing big semi, lucky run anyway

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 04:29 AM
Yeeessss! Maybe I am being overly optimistic, but I believe Milos can beat Fiasco again as he is mentally stronger, and Memphis plays pretty quickly IIRC. Verdasco may very well double fault in crucial moments of the tiebreakers or make a slew of unforced errors



Verdasco probably won't even play. He'll withdraw with that attitude we saw tonight.

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 04:30 AM
WTF your ignorant self! When did Quebec secede?


Okay so he is from Quebec, like I said, not a Canadian.

Mistaflava
02-14-2011, 04:32 AM
Let's see now if Sportsnet shows his match on Wednesday night. They are supposed to start on Thursday.


good luck with that. Sportsnet is too busy showing Ottawa Senators games.

guichard
02-14-2011, 04:37 AM
good luck with that. Sportsnet is too busy showing Ottawa Senators games.
Not for me (Blackout in Southern Ontario) but yeah they won't show it.

Kat_YYZ
02-14-2011, 04:40 AM
Fiasco just whined after the match saying players who hit 145 mph all the time with their serves should play another sport.

:haha: :haha:

It's not his bloody business if you can't serve, Fiasco.

actually I thought Verdasco was serving quite well. I was really lamenting Milos's bad luck to get Verdasco on a stretch where he's serving so consistently.

First serve percentage 72% with 84% 1st AND 2nd serve points won! This is way more consistent than Fernando of most of last year. Raonic served at 69%, winning 84% first and 48% second.

Total points won in the match: FV 77; MR 72 :eek:

So really Milos just outplayed him in key moments.

So happy for Milos :yeah:

Ashlar77
02-14-2011, 05:00 AM
Such composure displayed by Milos, one of his strongest qualities. Just an unbelievable start to the 2011 season, his confidence and sense of belonging with the big boys keeps growing each week it seems. Congrats on Canada's first ATP singles title in 16 years! :yeah::worship:

Pirata.
02-14-2011, 05:09 AM
Let's see now if Sportsnet shows his match on Wednesday night. They are supposed to start on Thursday.

I don't think Memphis will offer any streaming at all until the quarterfinals :o


lol hate all you want. Nando deserves it today. I'm actually on the haters' side today! :haha:

Your sig :haha: I tried to good rep you but I guess I already did recently :o

Pirata.
02-14-2011, 05:12 AM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09ze463eRu3g8/x500.jpg

:lol: Gotta love this kid.

FormerRafaFan
02-14-2011, 05:16 AM
Funny... I said the only way for Milos to beat Verdasco was if Verdasco brain farted, and that's exactly what happened! Verdasco should have won. No excuse. Congrats to Milos for his first ATP title though!

Deathless Mortal
02-14-2011, 05:35 AM
Congrats Milos :worship:

FormerRafaFan
02-14-2011, 05:40 AM
Really happy for Milos :hug: I would've been fine with Fernando winning too, but Milos has been playing so well lately and he really deserved this.

Fernando could also learn a thing or two from Milos about how to stay calm and maintain a collected attitude. I'm getting really fed up at him bitching after every missed shot and not shaking the umpire's hand after he loses.

I totally agree with this. Nando should get a sports psychologist. Secondly, I'm not surprised he didn't shake the umpire's hand. Yes, it's bad sportmanship and I don't like it, but we all know Nando is a sore loser :(

tennisfan856
02-14-2011, 05:41 AM
i like the kid's composure and serving, but this was a mug's match. No one could return, some top 10 player can't win a tiebreak with a 6-2 lead, and milos had karlovic footwork at times. Milos, great potential talent but still raw.

I think he's had a fantastic run since the start of the year, and his serve will keep him in matches, but he better be prepared to do damage on hard and grass because clay season will be a lesson. I would keep those clay tournaments to a minimum just to keep the confidence high.

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 05:42 AM
Funny... I said the only way for Milos to beat Verdasco was if Verdasco brain farted, and that's exactly what happened! Verdasco should have won. No excuse. Congrats to Milos for his first ATP title though!

SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA !!! I hate these kinds of posts, ie: "if X player played his A game, then Y player would have lost." Welcome to the game of tennis where a player's A game is sometimes influenced by Y player's game. Tennis is as much a mental game as it is a physical one and Milos kept his head while Fiasco did not. The MILOS got into his head and beat him. Fiasco himself admitted that he was intimidated by the serve, or maybe he has a bit of a murray complex where he is afraid of winning. The MILOS is clearly not afraid of closing the deal. No one cares about Fiascos farts and neither should YOU!

Wojtek
02-14-2011, 05:46 AM
well done Milos :woohoo:

Allez
02-14-2011, 05:49 AM
Speechless :eek: Well done Milos :worship:

Nando :speakles:

FlameOn
02-14-2011, 05:55 AM
SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA !!! I hate these kinds of posts, ie: "if X player played his A game, then Y player would have lost." Welcome to the game of tennis where a player's A game is sometimes influenced by Y player's game. Tennis is as much a mental game as it is a physical one and Milos kept his head while Fiasco did not. The MILOS got into his head and beat him. Fiasco himself admitted that he was intimidated by the serve, or maybe he has a bit of a murray complex where he is afraid of winning. The MILOS is clearly not afraid of closing the deal. No one cares about Fiascos farts and neither should YOU!

:lol: Please. Nando was not influenced by Milos' game when he lost 6 points in a row to lose the first set TB. His OWN head got in the way. Milos stayed solid, woohoo for him, but I'll never believe in a million years that he lost the first set TB because he was intimidated by Milos. :lol:

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 05:59 AM
I wrote Fiasco, not Verdasco.

:rolleyes:

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 06:00 AM
:lol: Please. Nando was not influenced by Milos' game when he lost 6 points in a row to lose the first set TB. His OWN head got in the way. Milos stayed solid, woohoo for him, but I'll never believe in a million years that he lost the first set TB because he was intimidated by Milos. :lol:

Well he sure sounded whipped in the post game interview, as if he had run into an unstoppable serving juggernaut. His words. Sounds like he's resigned to being owned by the MILOS from now on !!

FlameOn
02-14-2011, 06:01 AM
Well he sure sounded whipped in the post game interview, as if he had run into an unstoppable serving juggernaut. His words. Sounds like he's resigned to being owned by the MILOS from now on !!

He was pissed off and making excuses for his choke obviously. Seriously, take post-game interviews with a grain of salt. Especially ones where he'd just lost.

And he beat Karlovic in 2 this week who was serving just as well as Milos so Nando's had plenty of practice against big serves this week.

Action Jackson
02-14-2011, 06:02 AM
Well done to the Canadian/Montenegrin on his first title.

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 06:02 AM
I wrote Fiasco no Verdasco.

:rolleyes:

If "Fiasco" is your invention, than I must say you have an eye for tennis amigo! Hopefully you can replace dick enberg!

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 06:03 AM
He was pissed off and making excuses for his choke obviously. Seriously, take post-game interviews with a grain of salt. Especially ones where he'd just lost.

And he beat Karlovic in 2 this week who was serving just as well as Milos so Nando's had plenty of practice against big serves this week.

Oh so I should accept your conjecture over his own words??:shrug:

FlameOn
02-14-2011, 06:04 AM
Oh so I should accept your conjecture over his own words??:shrug:
Do or don't. Who cares? :shrug:

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 06:06 AM
Do or don't. Who cares? :shrug:

You wisely skipped the highschool debating team!!:haha:

FlameOn
02-14-2011, 06:08 AM
You wisely skipped the highschool debating team!!:haha:
Can't you just be happy Canada finally has a decent prospect without being a dickwad about it?

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 06:11 AM
If "Fiasco" is your invention, than I must say you have an eye for tennis amigo! Hopefully you can replace dick enberg!

I don't think it is, but well. What matters is using it. :p

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 06:12 AM
Funny... I said the only way for Milos to beat Verdasco was if Verdasco brain farted, and that's exactly what happened! Verdasco should have won. No excuse. Congrats to Milos for his first ATP title though!

:bs: alert!

henke007
02-14-2011, 06:15 AM
I love this result :woohoo::yippee:

Raonic:worship:

Nandobandwagons wheels :haha:

scoobs
02-14-2011, 06:24 AM
Ha. Oh dear Nando.

Well done to Milos though - incredible start to 2011.

Shirogane
02-14-2011, 06:51 AM
Wow, congrats kid. :eek: :D

Topspindoctor
02-14-2011, 07:00 AM
Bad for the game. Isner v2.0 on the way to top 20 with same all-serve nonsense, ugly game and no movement who can only win in tie breaks.

Shirogane
02-14-2011, 07:13 AM
Oh shut your mouth already, or give the kid some credit for once. :o

HDW
02-14-2011, 07:14 AM
Nice one, V :o

Topspindoctor
02-14-2011, 07:19 AM
Oh shut your mouth already, or give the kid some credit for once. :o

Credit for what? For taking advantage of a choke? Verdasco is ten times the talent this kid will ever be, just keep that in mind.

jonathancrane
02-14-2011, 07:19 AM
11 pages :spit:

Congrats Milos, great mentality and instinct throughout the match.
After Nando choked those 4 sp I knew it was over. Seems like all the shit he puts on the hair has reached his brain :o

duong
02-14-2011, 07:19 AM
the last two canadian men to win ATP tournaments (Rusedski in 1995 and Raonic in 2011) weren't even born in Canada. WTF?!?!?!

means Canada is a great immigration land : that's great :yeah:

Chloe le Bopper
02-14-2011, 07:25 AM
It is here that I meant to call yesterday a shiny day for Canada.

Chloe le Bopper
02-14-2011, 07:26 AM
I wonder if Rusedski knows he wasn't born in Canada? I'd suggest that somebody ought to tell him, but he already left, so whatever.

Chloe le Bopper
02-14-2011, 07:32 AM
Were any other Canadians mildly embarrassed that they gave him maple syrup to go with his jersey? Sadly, nobody said eh.

His accent has the rhythms and slang of an Ontario city kid, with the occasional vowel drop giving away his homeland. That's what it sounds like to me, anyway.

latso
02-14-2011, 07:43 AM
Milos' time to collect some points, coz the outdoors part of the year will be a dry one...

duong
02-14-2011, 07:51 AM
hmmmm, i dont like tomic's footwork...its just not working for him either. every year tomic has good results (or thereabouts) in Australia but then plays very mediocore for the rest of the year. if he doesn't break in the top 150 by the end of the year his future isn't looking tooooo good.

milos went from 150ish to 60ish in the span of about 3-4 months-ish. tomic, i belive, won't do that. tomic's service is also way too rushed. he doesn't have a good rythm.

come on you can't say "every year he does ..." for somebody who is two years younger than Raonic ;)

Tomic has had problems with his growing height but I think this year might be a breakthrough year : I mean I don't mean win an ATP title like Raonic, who's been quite lucky improving this fast, it's not a natural path and he knows it,

but reaching the top-100-top-80 would be a good first step for Tomic.

Anyway imo Tomic is still more promising than Raonic (I like Raonic by the way ;) ).

Nishikori was 2 years younger than Raonic is now when he won Delray-Beach.

.-Federers_Mate-.
02-14-2011, 08:09 AM
:o

His attitude on court is so ugly to see sometimes. Went a long period last year (Cincy to Shanghai, I think) where he refused to shake the umpire's hands after his losses.

Good on him i say. Money is at stake and Nando knows this. Had i been in his position i would have done more than pull the finger. Some juvenile over excited crowd member completely turned the match on it's head due to his/her selfishness. It's no right. tennis is a professional sport and shite like this just looks bad. I can imagine how Nando feels, and the self restrain he showed was commendable. He was fuming and rightly so. He should file a complaint and if he has too take this to the higher powers because he just lost points as well as a pay check

nando played his worst match of the year, which was surprising after he hit Delpo off the ground. Off the ground it was all about nando and that HUGE forehand and flashy backhand playing Milos around the court like a puppet on a string. HOWEVER i was VERY impressed with the way Milos defended and of course his serve made the difference.

It's annoying though too see the MUCH more talented player who can hit all the shots...WELL lose because of his own problems in his head rather than the opponents good play :o.

fast_clay
02-14-2011, 08:32 AM
Is Raonic the new Glenn Michibata?

Raonic is the new Glenn Michibata.

Heard it on the radio earlier today, so i guess you can say its official.

fast_clay
02-14-2011, 08:36 AM
oh yeah... nearly forgot

:lol: @ mental giant fernando... when you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory from some wet behind the ears half balkan canuck then you know the world can safely assume that you were off playing in the mirror at the moment god was handing out balls

finishingmove
02-14-2011, 08:43 AM
oh yeah... nearly forgot

:lol: @ mental giant fernando... when you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory from some wet behind the ears half balkan canuck then you know the world can safely assume that you were off playing in the mirror at the moment god was handing out balls

:haha:

Sonja1989
02-14-2011, 08:47 AM
oh yeah... nearly forgot

:lol: @ mental giant fernando... when you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory from some wet behind the ears half balkan canuck then you know the world can safely assume that you were off playing in the mirror at the moment god was handing out balls

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Congrats Milos for his first title!
Poor Nando is really "mental giant".

Certinfy
02-14-2011, 09:01 AM
Have to say I'm really happy for Milos, great player :)

As for Fernando, well considering his form for the last few months this was a great result anyway :D :hug: Looking at the stats it seems Nando was the better player as well? :shrug:

Aenea
02-14-2011, 09:16 AM
Bad for the game. Isner v2.0 on the way to top 20 with same all-serve nonsense, ugly game and no movement who can only win in tie breaks.

I agree with that statement.
As for Nando instead of showing off with his model GF he should concentrate more on his game if he wishes to stay in top 10.

acionescu
02-14-2011, 09:17 AM
Nando http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

Love the shorter shorts, though :hearts:

scoobs
02-14-2011, 09:25 AM
Nando http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

Love the shorter shorts, though :hearts:
That's the important thing here ;)

Shirogane
02-14-2011, 09:37 AM
pretty girl to the left!

cocrcici
02-14-2011, 10:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_ioMXI3R4&hd=1

Lopez
02-14-2011, 10:11 AM
Fiasco just whined after the match saying players who hit 145 mph all the time with their serves should play another sport.

:haha: :haha:

It's not his bloody business if you can't serve, Fiasco.

Source?

If he did say that, what a big ass loser. There's more than one way to play tennis and in case you didn't know, the serve is the most difficult shot in tennis. That's why you usually see the greates athletes serve well, counting out the giants. And Raonic isn't even that tall, shorter than Delpo and Cilic but his serve is miles better.

If he didn't say that, then he's a sore loser anyway based on the comments here. I like his shotmaking but dislike his attitude.

I fell asleep during the match but was rooting for Milos. The kid's got game, been rooting for him ever since I first saw him play last year. Perhaps my favorite youngster :yeah:. Grats for him!

Orka_n
02-14-2011, 10:16 AM
This Raonic is a name for the future. No comment on Verdasco.

Sonja1989
02-14-2011, 10:18 AM
Who has the worst tie-break statistic? Cilic or Verdasco?

Gl3nnVD
02-14-2011, 10:26 AM
I agree with that statement.
As for Nando instead of showing off with his model GF he should concentrate more on his game if he wishes to stay in top 10.

When did he show off with his girlfriend? NOT ONCE did he mention her. Not bloody once. It's not his fault that the announcers keep talking about her. He'd prefer it if they didn't say anything at all about her. It's called PRIVATE life for something, you know. Getting to a final seems a pretty good result to me, so why don't you just jump off the haters bandwagon? It's so easy to judge if you're not there yourself. You can't imagine the pressure he's under.

He's a top 10 for a reason. And it's not because he 'shows off his model GF'. It's because he plays decent tennis. Fine, he has bad times and good times. Who doesn't? So before accusing him of not concentrating and just showing off his girlfriend... think twice before you write something.

OAld0jCCAeo

Milos :D

That guy should be banned for life. Thanks for showing us the culprit.

nole_no1
02-14-2011, 10:27 AM
R.I.P. tennis

RIboy
02-14-2011, 10:35 AM
MILOŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠš :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_ioMXI3R4&hd=1

Gasquet is unbeatable in this imo- GOAT :yeah:

emotion
02-14-2011, 10:42 AM
I think Raonic will be top 20 very soon and am unhappy about it. One Karlovic is enough for me. And this one is much, much tougher.

philosophicalarf
02-14-2011, 11:06 AM
Who has the worst tie-break statistic? Cilic or Verdasco?

Cilic 42% career, Verdasco 50%.

Both bad, but 42% is spectacularly bad. Nearly everyone on tour is 46-54%.

Sonja1989
02-14-2011, 11:11 AM
Cilic 42% career, Verdasco 50%.

Both bad, but 42% is spectacularly bad. Nearly everyone on tour is 46-54%.

Thanks. :( This two guys is terrible in tie-break. Specially Cilic.
Even so isn't shame lost 2 tie-breaks against Raonic.

FlameOn
02-14-2011, 11:36 AM
Source?

If he did say that, what a big ass loser. There's more than one way to play tennis and in case you didn't know, the serve is the most difficult shot in tennis. That's why you usually see the greates athletes serve well, counting out the giants. And Raonic isn't even that tall, shorter than Delpo and Cilic but his serve is miles better.

If he didn't say that, then he's a sore loser anyway based on the comments here. I like his shotmaking but dislike his attitude.

I fell asleep during the match but was rooting for Milos. The kid's got game, been rooting for him ever since I first saw him play last year. Perhaps my favorite youngster :yeah:. Grats for him!

GlennMiryni changed the words of the quote to make it sound negative. Here's what Nando ACTUALLY said.

""I played well when he let me on his serve because I think there must be another league for he and (Croatian player Ivo) Karlovic because it's like another sport," Verdasco said.

"When you serve every time 140mph and every time you have chance he's going to the line, you can't do anything." added Verdasco.
http://www.whtc.com/news/articles/2011/feb/14/raonic-stuns-verdasco-to-claim-first-title/

I highly doubt he literally meant that Karlovic and Milos belong in another sport, rather he compares the difficulty of returning their huge serves with playing another sport. I think Federer said something similar once about Karlovic.

star
02-14-2011, 11:42 AM
:bigclap:

Well done, Raonic.

Raonic showed a calm resolve that should help him greatly in his career. It's nice to see someone who has a bit different style than the other top players. I've been hoping for a bright new face, so it's good to see one coming along.

Aenea
02-14-2011, 11:48 AM
When did he show off with his girlfriend? ...
think twice before you write something.

:lol: another one coming here thinking s/he has the right to tell others what to/not to do. I won't think twice, it is my business what I say and how I say it, not asking you for any advices :shrug:
As for Nando, come on we all know what a womanizer he is :rolleyes: and he never makes secret who is the woman who is his GF atm :wavey:

Gl3nnVD
02-14-2011, 11:53 AM
It's not because he doesn't lock her up in a hotel room and doesn't hide her for the press that he's showing her off though...

FlameOn
02-14-2011, 11:55 AM
It's not because he doesn't lock her up in a hotel room and doesn't hide her for the press that he's showing her off though...
Why is this even an issue lol? Players bring their GFs to matches all the time. :spit:

Mungo
02-14-2011, 11:59 AM
Verdasco still needs to win 5 more titles to catch up Robredo LOL!

Sonja1989
02-14-2011, 12:03 PM
Verdasco still needs to win 5 more titles to catch up Robredo LOL!

Yes, but Robredo was top 5 player when Verdasco was outside of top 30.

timafi
02-14-2011, 12:05 PM
:speakles:

Zagor
02-14-2011, 12:41 PM
Congrats to Milos on his first ATP title,it will be interesting to see his development as a player.What I really like is that he looks fairly comfortable at the net,has good hands.So many players today stay glued on the baseline even if they get the weak reply from the opponent instead of putting the ball away at the net,not so with Raonic,if he gets you out of position with his FH he'll finish the job.

As for Verdasco,lost a bit of respect for him after that interview,he really acted like a sore loser.Everyone tries to win with the tools they have at their disposal,if Nando could serve as well as Milos I'm sure he would gladly.Heck one of the reasons Verdasco reached 2009 AO SF and pushed Nadal to the brink was because he was serving very well throughout the whole tourney.

fast_clay
02-14-2011, 12:54 PM
Congrats to Milos on his first ATP title,it will be interesting to see his development as a player.What I really like is that he looks fairly comfortable at the net,has good hands.So many players today stay glued on the baseline even if they get the weak reply from the opponent instead of putting the ball away at the net,not so with Raonic,if he gets you out of position with his FH he'll finish the job.

some coach has spotted that he was gonna be a big guy very early on and KNEW it would be a crime not to give the guy knowledge and confidence coming forward...

you can just see in his movements that's it's a no brainer to come forward once he's hurt a guy... and not just to come forward to hit 2 or 3 more stinging forehands... no... to come forward and kill the point off...

this type of game is exactly what is required to disarm the glut of grinders and baseline huggers at the moment... but why has it taken so long to see it emerge...?

finishing points quickly is gonna make his career last and make him a grand slam heavyweight in 3/4 Slams one day...

for me, the only reason why such a inexperienced talent is that some coach has had the simple presence of mind to make the guy comfortable coming forwards...

it's not a dead art attacking... just that dumb as f*** coaches the world over follow current trends instead of coaching a style that suits a player...

good post zagor

buddyholly
02-14-2011, 12:55 PM
good luck with that. Sportsnet is too busy showing Ottawa Senators games.

Sportsnet has 5 channels.

luie
02-14-2011, 01:03 PM
Variety is always welcomed on tour.

buddyholly
02-14-2011, 01:08 PM
Good on him i say. Money is at stake and Nando knows this. Had i been in his position i would have done more than pull the finger. Some juvenile over excited crowd member completely turned the match on it's head due to his/her selfishness. It's no right. tennis is a professional sport and shite like this just looks bad. I can imagine how Nando feels, and the self restrain he showed was commendable. He was fuming and rightly so. He should file a complaint and if he has too take this to the higher powers because he just lost points as well as a pay check



Can't you tell when someone has just found an excuse to blame his loss on outside forces, rather than his own inability to figure out how to beat a newcomer?

The scream probably came from Nando's dad, who just wanted to go back to his hotel and sleep, rather than listen to Nando cry all night. "That's OK son, the match was yours until that idiot called out. You had him well beat. You were the best, now get some sleep. We'll call Memphis in the morning, before the Madrid flight.''

buddyholly
02-14-2011, 01:14 PM
You can't imagine the pressure he's under.


That guy should be banned for life. Thanks for showing us the culprit.

And you can? Don't be silly.

I'm glad it wasn't the guy in the maple leaf top hat. That would have been embarrassing.

buddyholly
02-14-2011, 01:15 PM
R.I.P. tennis

Nice to see someone hit the ball, instead of just bounce it.

Vida
02-14-2011, 01:22 PM
for what its worth, we now know that milos is mentally stronger than verdasco.

Mungo
02-14-2011, 01:22 PM
All of you Raonic bashers need to grow up. He's not my favorite kind of player by any means but he's no Karlovic. He moves much better and has much better groundstrokes than Ivo, I would say he's closer to Isner's style of play and Isner is no mug from the baseline, he can rip some forehands.

Mungo
02-14-2011, 01:23 PM
for what its worth, we now know that milos is mentally stronger than verdasco.

Me too.

Vida
02-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Raonic is definitely more talented than Isner.

Shade
02-14-2011, 01:44 PM
More all-court players, please. There's a reason the four of them who are left in the game are in the top 5. People can't rely on serve and groundies alone if they want to win big tournaments. Raonic is gonna need a lot more development before he gets much higher.

kindling
02-14-2011, 01:50 PM
Raonic is definitely more talented than Isner.

Yeah, hate to say it, but the title of Mr big serve might have to be passed to Raonic. Def better all around than Isner.

mark73
02-14-2011, 02:09 PM
No one has mentioned Raonics excellent abilities to construct a point and win at the net. His net game is very strong. His forehand is incredible and his backhand is respectable. Finally he moves well for a big guy. He is certainly not an all serve mug.

ossie
02-14-2011, 02:15 PM
what idiot compared raonic to karlovic/isner? :cuckoo:

for a guy his size raonic moves very well, his serve is just another tool in his game, he doesnt depend on it to win matches. that said he needs more experience and needs to move even better, make less unforced errors to become a favorite at the slams in the future.

octatennis
02-14-2011, 02:17 PM
lots of chinese people in san jose.

mark73
02-14-2011, 02:20 PM
Funny thing is they will play eachother tommorow again in memphis. Whoever looses is very unlucky

emotion
02-14-2011, 02:37 PM
what idiot compared raonic to karlovic/isner? :cuckoo:

for a guy his size raonic moves very well, his serve is just another tool in his game, he doesnt depend on it to win matches. that said he needs more experience and needs to move even better, make less unforced errors to become a favorite at the slams in the future.

Raonic points won on return 16%
Karlovic points won on return 19%
Raonic points won on 2nd serve 48%
Karlovic points won on 2nd serve 55%

And Dasco played better vs Ivo too. difference is raonic can put away short balls that Karlovic misses, but from neutral rallies he's even worse

guichard
02-14-2011, 02:41 PM
Funny thing is they will play eachother tommorow again in memphis. Whoever looses is very unlucky
It is Wednesday night : Vedasco-Raonic, isner-del potro

fast_clay
02-14-2011, 02:44 PM
It is Wednesday night : Vedasco-Raonic, isner-del potro

that's some high powered shiiaaatt...

tourney organisers creaming themselves over that wednesday night selection... should make a few bob there...

ibreak4coffee
02-14-2011, 03:14 PM
that's some high powered shiiaaatt...

tourney organisers creaming themselves over that wednesday night selection... should make a few bob there...

Seriously. That's an ATP 1000 end of week OOP.

Milos is due for a letdown though and I imagine Verdasco takes the match in straight sets. We need Milos to rest up for Davis Cup anyways so I wont be gutted by a loss.

Nadull_tard
02-14-2011, 03:19 PM
Always good to see Shitdasco losing. What a total dolt you have to be to loose a ATP final against a utter rookie on this level...

Mungo
02-14-2011, 03:37 PM
what idiot compared raonic to karlovic/isner? :cuckoo:

for a guy his size raonic moves very well, his serve is just another tool in his game, he doesnt depend on it to win matches. that said he needs more experience and needs to move even better, make less unforced errors to become a favorite at the slams in the future.

Karlovic and Isner are not the same. Isner moves better and has better groundstrokes than Ivo so I said Raonic is closer to Isner in those aspects of the game. Raonic moves better than Isner but I would pick Isner's serve right now.

Mungo
02-14-2011, 04:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAld0jCCAeo

Clownando paying $10,000 for his head :lol:

Geo
02-14-2011, 04:16 PM
Are people going to post that stupid "Another Game For Milos" clip each time Raonic wins? :tape: :help: It's way past being old now and is no longer funny :o


Anyway, great win for Raonic. He looked so calm out there despite being in his first final. Verdasco the top 10 player was the one who lost his composure :spit: :o I can't believe Verdasco blew that 6-2 lead in the tiebreak. From that moment on, I think most of us knew Raonic was going to win :lol: Hopefully this is the first of many titles for him. Can't wait to see Raonic make some major noise during IW/Miami swing :yeah:


Verdasco on the other hand drops to 5-10 in finals. :lol:

tennisfan856
02-14-2011, 04:16 PM
that couple got off easy, hate to see that shit when they're smiling and having a good time where they shouldn't even be near a tennis court again.

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 04:27 PM
Credit for what? For taking advantage of a choke? Verdasco is ten times the talent this kid will ever be, just keep that in mind.

:haha: :haha:

Fiasco is just a huge mug.

Raonic is the new Glenn Michibata.

Heard it on the radio earlier today, so i guess you can say its official.

:haha:

oh yeah... nearly forgot

:lol: @ mental giant fernando... when you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory from some wet behind the ears half balkan canuck then you know the world can safely assume that you were off playing in the mirror at the moment god was handing out balls

:worship:

OAld0jCCAeo

Milos :D

If I were that guy I'd give it to those two old hags.

Source?

If he did say that, what a big ass loser. There's more than one way to play tennis and in case you didn't know, the serve is the most difficult shot in tennis. That's why you usually see the greates athletes serve well, counting out the giants. And Raonic isn't even that tall, shorter than Delpo and Cilic but his serve is miles better.

If he didn't say that, then he's a sore loser anyway based on the comments here. I like his shotmaking but dislike his attitude.

I fell asleep during the match but was rooting for Milos. The kid's got game, been rooting for him ever since I first saw him play last year. Perhaps my favorite youngster :yeah:. Grats for him!

Twitter. I don't remember from whom it originally came from - probably wilsontennis or tenniscanada.

He did and he's a big ass loser alright.

GlennMiryni changed the words of the quote to make it sound negative. Here's what Nando ACTUALLY said.


http://www.whtc.com/news/articles/2011/feb/14/raonic-stuns-verdasco-to-claim-first-title/

I highly doubt he literally meant that Karlovic and Milos belong in another sport, rather he compares the difficulty of returning their huge serves with playing another sport. I think Federer said something similar once about Karlovic.

What have I changed? He did say that and he meant exactly what I wrote. Unless you're as naοve as a 4 year-old. :lol:

for what its worth, we now know that milos is mentally stronger than verdasco.

Who isn't mentally stronger than Fiasco?

Are people going to post that stupid "Another Game For Milos" clip each time Raonic wins? :tape: :help: It's way past being old now and is no longer funny :o

Yeah. It's funny. We can't help if your sense of humour is non-existant.

Mungo
02-14-2011, 04:33 PM
11 pages :spit:

Congrats Milos, great mentality and instinct throughout the match.
After Nando choked those 4 sp I knew it was over. Seems like all the shit he puts on the hair has reached his brain :o

My guess is the shit followed the opposite road.

Machiavelli
02-14-2011, 04:39 PM
Raonic is coached by the legend Galo Blanco, nice to hear that....

FormerRafaFan
02-14-2011, 05:13 PM
Are people going to post that stupid "Another Game For Milos" clip each time Raonic wins? :tape: :help: It's way past being old now and is no longer funny :o


Anyway, great win for Raonic. He looked so calm out there despite being in his first final. Verdasco the top 10 player was the one who lost his composure :spit: :o I can't believe Verdasco blew that 6-2 lead in the tiebreak. From that moment on, I think most of us knew Raonic was going to win :lol: Hopefully this is the first of many titles for him. Can't wait to see Raonic make some major noise during IW/Miami swing :yeah:


Verdasco on the other hand drops to 5-10 in finals. :lol:

He's always losing composure when he's losing. He's kind of a sore loser. I love Nando, I'm a huge fan and I wanted him to win this match. However, Milos looked solid and composed and it was a well deserved win imo. I just wish the guy didn't yell out on such a crucial point! It didn't seem fair :( Nando probably would have lost anyway, but you never know.. it's not a good way to win like that either I think.

OMG.. is he really down 5-10? that is not good. Auch! Then again, he's a headcase, always have been and always will be:rolleyes: Even his fans realized this a long time ago!

BTW.. Nando said something during the last tiebreak of the match, it sounded like he was cursing.. for the Spanish speakers here, what did he say? I'm curious..

Mungo
02-14-2011, 05:24 PM
He said so many things but one of them was 'He's not missing one fucking shot from the baseline', also whined about Raonic's serve in the 2nd TB.

Shirogane
02-14-2011, 05:29 PM
He's always losing composure when he's losing.

Sometimes even when he's not. :o

FormerRafaFan
02-14-2011, 05:32 PM
He said so many things but one of them was 'He's not missing one fucking shot from the baseline', also whined about Raonic's serve in the 2nd TB.

Thanks for the translation :)

LOL.. aww, Nando. Reminds me of the little tirade he had during the Nice final against Gasquet. He got frustrated back then as well, said something like "he has risked 10 balls, and 10 balls got in." He keeps mumbling to himself when losing. I feel bad for him, but it's kinda cute.. on the other hand, this is probably why he keeps on losing matches. It goes to his head, and he can't focus anymore.. sad :(

FormerRafaFan
02-14-2011, 05:34 PM
Sometimes even when he's not. :o

Well, Nando is a sore loser, so especially when he's losing. He just can't stay focused, he lets it go to his head too much :(

Roger the Dodger
02-14-2011, 06:22 PM
This is excellent news! Great to see someone new in the mix. :yeah:

Sapeod
02-14-2011, 06:39 PM
:zzz: we dont need another karlovic on tour.
I'm guessing you've never seen Raonic play, then?

Well, that's no surprise. You seem to have only seen Argentinians play...



AMAZING PLAY FROM THE FUTURE TOP 5 PLAYER! Upwards and onwards...

HAHAHA at Verdasco. Hopefully, this clown will be out of the top 20 after the clay season. The worst top 10 player to have ever played, along with Simon.

Mechlan
02-14-2011, 06:39 PM
Great stuff Milos. Let the bandwagon pick up steam.

Henry Chinaski
02-14-2011, 07:46 PM
He said so many things but one of them was 'He's not missing one fucking shot from the baseline', also whined about Raonic's serve in the 2nd TB.

haha, he said pretty much the same thing when he played Gasquet in the Nice final.

And he said "now let's see who has the biggest balls"

Clearly not you Nando. You lost to fuckin Gasquet in France. That takes some doing but I see you've tried to outdo yourself this time

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 07:50 PM
haha, he said pretty much the same thing when he played Gasquet in the Nice final.

And he said "now let's see who has the biggest balls"

Clearly not you Nando. You lost to fuckin Gasquet in France. That takes some doing but I see you've tried to outdo yourself this time

Fiasco's business is hair styling.

Mungo
02-14-2011, 08:03 PM
haha, he said pretty much the same thing when he played Gasquet in the Nice final.

And he said "now let's see who has the biggest balls"

Clearly not you Nando. You lost to fuckin Gasquet in France. That takes some doing but I see you've tried to outdo yourself this time

And Gasquet had bigger balls than him, that's as embarrassing as it can get on a tennis court :o

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 08:09 PM
I'm guessing you've never seen Raonic play, then?

Well, that's no surprise. You seem to have only seen Argentinians play...



AMAZING PLAY FROM THE FUTURE TOP 5 PLAYER! Upwards and onwards...

HAHAHA at Verdasco. Hopefully, this clown will be out of the top 20 after the clay season. The worst top 10 player to have ever played, along with Simon.

What's with the 2001 Hal computer type font? What happened to good ole times roman font? Nice signature though, right on the money. Some more suitable pronouns for Andy: sage, visionary, prophet, poet, lover...

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 08:12 PM
Fiasco's business is hair styling.

I noticed he had that mohawk for a while to try to intimidate opponents with a potential mid-match scalping . He's going for a more dapper look now. What is the new strategy? I have no idea. Perhaps to charm the opponent into submission.

JayR
02-14-2011, 08:18 PM
haha, he said pretty much the same thing when he played Gasquet in the Nice final.

And he said "now let's see who has the biggest balls"

Clearly not you Nando. You lost to fuckin Gasquet in France. That takes some doing but I see you've tried to outdo yourself this time

:lol:

Disappointing is as disappointing does, and nobody does it better, or worse than he.

FormerRafaFan
02-14-2011, 08:23 PM
haha, he said pretty much the same thing when he played Gasquet in the Nice final.

And he said "now let's see who has the biggest balls"

Clearly not you Nando. You lost to fuckin Gasquet in France. That takes some doing but I see you've tried to outdo yourself this time

LOL.. that's what I said as well:

Reminds me of the little tirade he had during the Nice final against Gasquet. He got frustrated back then as well, said something like "he has risked 10 balls, and 10 balls got in."

FormerRafaFan
02-14-2011, 08:28 PM
I noticed he had that mohawk for a while to try to intimidate opponents with a potential mid-match scalping . He's going for a more dapper look now. What is the new strategy? I have no idea. Perhaps to charm the opponent into submission.

LOL.. he seemed obsessed with his hair in the match as well.. kept on touching it:lol:

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 08:32 PM
LOL.. he seemed obsessed with his hair in the match as well.. kept on touching it:lol:

I agree. I keep hearing "fernando" by abba when I watch him play now. Imagine if he looked like stepanek, he'd have no strategies left.

straitup
02-14-2011, 08:48 PM
Seriously. That's an ATP 1000 end of week OOP.


I like 3 of the 4 players that were mentioned (Isner, Del Potro, Raonic), but I pray that this is never the OOP for the end of a tournament like Indian Wells or Miami :lol:

Impressive from Milos, hope he keeps it going, he's good to watch. Verdasco is a major headcase still...

cellophane
02-14-2011, 09:19 PM
I'm guessing you've never seen Raonic play, then?

Well, that's no surprise. You seem to have only seen Argentinians play...



I've seen him play Ferrer, and once his serve deserted him / Ferrer got a clue how to return it, he was toast. :wavey:

His serve is the best thing about his game :shrug: They hype is in overdrive though... whether he is going to get to top 20 remains to be seen.

fast_clay
02-14-2011, 09:34 PM
he's easy to hate this fernando... i mean, he whines because his opponent plays good tennis... i mean... what the f***...? like he's spent 30 minutes longer in the men's change room on the phone to his hair stylist so he's the only one who owns the rights to good tennis out there...? is that it...?

so... it's that... and also.. he shares the same first name as that other olive munching jizz rag alonso...

fernando... what a shit name... champion f***wits the both of them...

Sapeod
02-14-2011, 09:35 PM
I've seen him play Ferrer, and once his serve deserted him / Ferrer got a clue how to return it, he was toast. :wavey:

His serve is the best thing about his game :shrug: They hype is in overdrive though... whether he is going to get to top 20 remains to be seen.
That's Ferrer though.........one of the best grinders to ever play the sport. Of course he was going to destroy Raonic off the ground, he's too good.

Raonic though, is in no way a Karlovic-like player. He has a huge forehand and backhand, great volleys, good movement and a HUGE serve....he has it all. Top 10 player for sure in the next year or so....

Proton21
02-14-2011, 10:07 PM
And he is the youngest ATP winner since 2008 when Nishikori won in Delray Beach.

Actually the youngest since Cilic won in New Haven 8/17/08. Cilic was soon to be 20 then.

Johnny_Bravo
02-14-2011, 10:09 PM
buhahahahahahahhaha epic title :devil:

cobalt60
02-14-2011, 10:27 PM
I was pretty impressed with MR's overall maturity last night and the fact that he did not fold :yeah:

Mr. Oracle
02-14-2011, 10:28 PM
Why the cold handshake from Ferdinando? I felt bad for the kid. Probably refused to give Milos his autograph in the locker room as well.

FormerRafaFan
02-14-2011, 10:53 PM
Why the cold handshake from Ferdinando? I felt bad for the kid. Probably refused to give Milos his autograph in the locker room as well.

Fernando is a sore loser.. everyone knows this:shrug:

Pirata.
02-14-2011, 11:24 PM
I've seen him play Ferrer, and once his serve deserted him / Ferrer got a clue how to return it, he was toast. :wavey:

His serve is the best thing about his game :shrug: They hype is in overdrive though... whether he is going to get to top 20 remains to be seen.

Ferrer is arguably the best returning on tour though. Fernando is really not on David's level when it comes to returning.

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 11:33 PM
I noticed he had that mohawk for a while to try to intimidate opponents with a potential mid-match scalping . He's going for a more dapper look now. What is the new strategy? I have no idea. Perhaps to charm the opponent into submission.

His mohawk is one of the phoniest haircuts I've ever seen.

he's easy to hate this fernando... i mean, he whines because his opponent plays good tennis... i mean... what the f***...? like he's spent 30 minutes longer in the men's change room on the phone to his hair stylist so he's the only one who owns the rights to good tennis out there...? is that it...?

so... it's that... and also.. he shares the same first name as that other olive munching jizz rag alonso...

fernando... what a shit name... champion f***wits the both of them...

:worship: You genius.

buhahahahahahahhaha epic title :devil:

And mind you they've changed my title. It was "Raonic mocks Fiasco". :o:rolleyes:

GlennMirnyi
02-14-2011, 11:34 PM
Ferrer is arguably the best returning on tour though. Fernando is really not on David's level when it comes to returning.

Fiasco can't tie Ferrer's shoelaces and it says a lot about him.