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Rotterdam R1: Tsonga routines Grigor "the future" dimitrov 6-4, 6-4

misty1
02-08-2011, 01:46 PM
completely expected

grigor did not have one break point on tsonga's serve the entire match, even off second serves

grigor isnt ready to beat guys like tsonga, even when they are playing average yet

Blackbriar
02-08-2011, 01:47 PM
A Dimitrov Moment

Yves.
02-08-2011, 01:48 PM
Bummer!

A_Skywalker
02-08-2011, 01:48 PM
A Dimitrov Moment

:lol:

FedererBulgaria
02-08-2011, 01:48 PM
Not that bad from Grigor...Tsonga was REALLY solid on serve

Voo de Mar
02-08-2011, 01:49 PM
:lol: at post-match interview. Tsonga said would be a favorite against Llodra, an interviewer told him that Llodra won in Rotterdam and Jo was surprised :D

madmax
02-08-2011, 01:49 PM
If this bulgarian guy is "The future of tennis", then our future looks rather bleak for sure

FedererBulgaria
02-08-2011, 01:50 PM
If this bulgarian guy is "The future of tennis", then our future looks rather bleak for sure

Your hate is my Drug....my drug

misty1
02-08-2011, 01:51 PM
i might be a fan but i think that its certainly an over statement to call him "the" future

Topspindoctor
02-08-2011, 01:51 PM
Dimitrov's ROS :help:

A_Skywalker
02-08-2011, 01:52 PM
Your hate is my Drug....my drug

This is not hate, this is the truth he is saying. Why would it be hate if he says that Dimitrov is not so good, which is actually the truth ?

tumbak
02-08-2011, 01:52 PM
Awful on Tsonga's serve. Hope we'll see an improved Dimitrov after a few months ... just like last year. FedererBulgaria shut up, don't embarrass yourself.

misty1
02-08-2011, 01:53 PM
still dont know how anyone thought he'd win

Sonja1989
02-08-2011, 01:54 PM
Guys, you forgot Grigor played last year only Future and Challenger tournament. What do you want to from Grigor now? He needs more time. Maybe end of this year can playing good tennis against good player, I think.

misty1
02-08-2011, 01:56 PM
yes, he definately needs time which is, again why i question how anyone thought he'd win this one

Voo de Mar
02-08-2011, 01:56 PM
Let's face the fact, Dimitrov two years ago beat Berdych and played pretty match against Nadal in the same tournament. His only improvement during these two years is consistent play on the Challenger circuit which has allowed him to advance to the Top 100.

duong
02-08-2011, 01:59 PM
Let's face the fact, Dimitrov two years ago beat Berdych and played pretty match against Nadal in the same tournament. His only improvement during these two years is consistent play on the Challenger circuit which has allowed him to advance to the Top 100.

he's grown taller since then : his height looked more appropriate to his game in that time

Schu
02-08-2011, 02:00 PM
:lol: at post-match interview. Tsonga said would be a favorite against Llodra, an interviewer told him that Llodra won in Rotterdam and Jo was surprised :D

Tsonga's arrogance/ "confidence" never ceases to amaze me - is he playing llodra next round? if so hope Mika reminds him who won in Rotterdam.

Back on topic - give Grigor a break, he still needs more time to be able to successful compete with the big boys. He actually did better than I expected.

JeffCandoi
02-08-2011, 02:02 PM
6 DFs
45% 2nd serve points won
6/36 :lol: 17% 1st Return points won
Break points: 0/0

the overrated boy still has a lot to learn

duong
02-08-2011, 02:02 PM
:lol: at post-match interview. Tsonga said would be a favorite against Llodra, an interviewer told him that Llodra won in Rotterdam and Jo was surprised :D

the surface was faster when Llodra won the tournament, however it's not an easy match-up for Tsonga, who doesn't have a good return of serve

Voo de Mar
02-08-2011, 02:03 PM
he's grown taller since then : his height looked more appropriate to his game in that time

So maybe somewhere was made a mistake in his schooling and he hasn't got adequate game-style to his physical abilities.

Blackbriar
02-08-2011, 02:09 PM
please, i don't see how being taller could be a disadvantage :rolleyes:

duong
02-08-2011, 02:10 PM
So maybe somewhere was made a mistake in his schooling and he hasn't got adequate game-style to his physical abilities.

well it's hard to force a player to play a game he doesn't like.

For instance Gasquet never wanted to change his forehand :lol:

duong
02-08-2011, 02:12 PM
please, i don't see how being taller could be a disadvantage :rolleyes:

it's an advantage for his serve which is probably better than in the past, but it seems it disturbs the rest of his game, he doesn't look comfortable with it.

Henry Chinaski
02-08-2011, 02:24 PM
He just got routined by one of the best indoor players in the game, not some mug outside the top 100.

people need to chill the fuck out.

ossie
02-08-2011, 02:26 PM
the future of tennis :haha:

simplet
02-08-2011, 02:30 PM
What an upset !!

henke007
02-08-2011, 02:32 PM
Its Back to the future for Dimitrov

Start da Game
02-08-2011, 02:35 PM
time is running out for clowns on MTF.......reason?

GRImug DImugTROV

SK-
02-08-2011, 02:40 PM
Bad from Grigor,challenger level...

Allez
02-08-2011, 02:44 PM
I wonder if either a Karol Beck or Rui Machado loss (the guys Grisha is sandwiched between in the rankings) would have piqued the interest of the MTF clownage mob.

Tsonga is top 20 player with a game suited for these conditions. This was an expected loss people. Don't hate on Grisha because of all the clowns who start up stupid threads proclaiming him the second coming of JesusFed.

Dougie
02-08-2011, 03:24 PM
What the hell is DImitrov doing in Rotterdam, which has about as tough a field as any 500-tournament! San Jose, Memphis, Delray Beach etc. would be much better for him ( and challengers)!

Allez
02-08-2011, 03:51 PM
What the hell is DImitrov doing in Rotterdam, which has about as tough a field as any 500-tournament! San Jose, Memphis, Delray Beach etc. would be much better for him ( and challengers)!

Actually you make a good point. He'd have done well in San Jose etc. I remember that used to be Murray's successful hunting ground way back when.

duong
02-08-2011, 04:04 PM
What the hell is DImitrov doing in Rotterdam, which has about as tough a field as any 500-tournament! San Jose, Memphis, Delray Beach etc. would be much better for him ( and challengers)!

Dimitrov is based in Europe and he used to have good success in Rotterdam.

I guess he goes to Marseilles next, then he's in the qualies for Dubai

Nadull_tard
02-08-2011, 04:17 PM
Totally expected. Top 20 player is just too high for Dimitrov.

Certinfy
02-08-2011, 04:17 PM
Awesome :yeah:

chammer44
02-08-2011, 04:23 PM
the gypsy groundstroker fails again.

abraxas21
02-08-2011, 04:28 PM
He just got routined by one of the best indoor players in the game, not some mug outside the top 100.

people need to chill the fuck out.

this is MTF

Dougie
02-08-2011, 04:33 PM
Dimitrov is based in Europe and he used to have good success in Rotterdam.

I guess he goes to Marseilles next, then he's in the qualies for Dubai

San Jose-Memphis-Delray Beach is a perfect swing for a player like Dimitrov, who´s basically still challenger-level, but wants to play at a 250 event when possible. Rotterdam is way too tough for him, there would have been many cheap points and a lot of matches at north-America.

Filo V.
02-08-2011, 04:51 PM
As Misty said, just too early in the development of Prime Time to expect him to beat someone like Tsonga on a quick court such as Rotterdam. Didn't return well and made a few too many errors and struggled with his second serve. Tsonga was solid and served well. Good match from the Frenchman.

Filo V.
02-08-2011, 04:53 PM
Grigor gained 5 positions in the rankings by qualifying and is up to #81. I believe qualifying at a 500 event alone is like equal the points to winning a match at a 250 event, so it's not a bad decision to try your luck at these events, since the qualifying draws aren't always the best, and he can stay in Europe.

Blackbriar
02-08-2011, 05:13 PM
He goes to the 500 events instead of grinding in smaller events because he thinks he is so good.
See the result.

duong
02-08-2011, 05:16 PM
Grigor gained 5 positions in the rankings by qualifying and is up to #81. I believe qualifying at a 500 event alone is like equal the points to winning a match at a 250 event, so it's not a bad decision to try your luck at these events, since the qualifying draws aren't always the best, and he can stay in Europe.

yes and he might have had a better draw than Tsonga :shrug:

half of the draw at least is composed of players who are beatable, and only one win would give 45 points, which is equivalent to two wins in San Jose and to a challenger final ... which is not that easy.

and two years ago Dimitrov beat Berdych and gave many problems to Nadal, then who knows ? he likes Rotterdam, then why not ?

nadejda
02-08-2011, 05:44 PM
He goes to the 500 events instead of grinding in smaller events because he thinks he is so good.
See the result.

You got a totally wrong impression on what Grigor thinks about himself.

In fact he lost his confidence so badly that McNamara took him back to challengers and futures the previous year to gain some. Lundgren said that he lacks a self confidence and that is one of the reasons he stop progressing after the breakthrough in 2009.

All this hype around him is very annoying and creates a false image of what Grigor really is.

Dougie
02-08-2011, 05:52 PM
Grigor gained 5 positions in the rankings by qualifying and is up to #81. I believe qualifying at a 500 event alone is like equal the points to winning a match at a 250 event, so it's not a bad decision to try your luck at these events, since the qualifying draws aren't always the best, and he can stay in Europe.

IMO what Dimitrov needs is as many main draw matches as possible and some wins to get some confidence. There would have been much better tournaments for this, but I guess he knows best. But if staying in Europe is really that important for him, then he should really take a good look at his choice of profession. He should be ready to go wherever he needs to go to find the tournaments that best suite him.

*Jean*
02-08-2011, 06:12 PM
Grigor :(

Everko
02-08-2011, 06:17 PM
The words 'Tsonga routines' should not be in a headline if you want to make it on the ATP tour.

Sapeod
02-08-2011, 06:19 PM
Grigor is 10000000 times better than this.

Nothing can be taken out of this match, just an average match between a player playing good and another playing slightly worse. Dimitrov will have a better career than Tsonga anyway.

Sonja1989
02-08-2011, 06:20 PM
Grigor is 10000000 times better than this.

Nothing can be taken out of this match, just an average match between a player playing good and another playing slightly worse. Dimitrov will have a better career than Tsonga anyway.

:worship:

tribalfusion
02-08-2011, 06:22 PM
He will be in the top 10 in no time, this year



And so it begins...



Grigor is 10000000 times better than this. Nothing can be taken out of this match, just an average match between a player playing good and another playing slightly worse. Dimitrov will have a better career than Tsonga anyway.

Everko
02-08-2011, 06:26 PM
Grigor is 10000000 times better than this.

Nothing can be taken out of this match, just an average match between a player playing good and another playing slightly worse. Dimitrov will have a better career than Tsonga anyway.

:o Tsonga has made a slam final, something Dimitrov will never be able to do. Tsonga ia a huge mug but Dimitrov will not achieve his levels of success. Remember the last time some young kid had a fancy one-hand backhand? He ended up with a cocaine addiction and the ATP disgrace.

Pirao666
02-08-2011, 07:07 PM
Dimitrov is very overhyped, there's no doubt about that. Unless he makes huge improvements he's not the future of anything.

Sonja1989
02-08-2011, 08:16 PM
:o Tsonga has made a slam final, something Dimitrov will never be able to do. Tsonga ia a huge mug but Dimitrov will not achieve his levels of success. Remember the last time some young kid had a fancy one-hand backhand? He ended up with a cocaine addiction and the ATP disgrace.

This is funny. How can you say this a 19 old player???

Allez
02-08-2011, 10:25 PM
:...Remember the last time some young kid had a fancy one-hand backhand? He ended up with a cocaine addiction and the ATP disgrace.

:haha: :haha: :haha: I sure hope Blackbriar doesn't see this post :lol:

syc23
02-08-2011, 10:27 PM
I thought the 'future' was supposed to be unbeatable in 2011?