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AO QF: [7] David Ferrer upsets [1] Rafael Nadal 6-4 6-2 6-3

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toby1526
01-26-2011, 11:19 AM
Nadal wasn't 100%. Had strapping on his thigh and was sweating bullets so clearly feeling dodgy. Ferrer still had to put him out of his misery though.

Gladiator
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Ferru played good & Nadal could not do anything with some kind of injury :(

so sad, his Rafa Slam dream ended by unexpected injury

well done Ferrerr,reaching the SF of AO for the first time to meet Andy Murray

viruzzz
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Ferrer played really good, otherwise he couldn't beat a N1, injured or not he's still Rafa.

I think Rafa was injured and he was at his 50%.
Rafa at 100% would crush Ferrer easily.

So much respect for David, he reach SF in a major.

habibko
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Ferrer held up mentally, Nadal didn't, tennis is saved :worship:

ShotmaKer
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Rafa :hug: Pics, still undefeated in 2011 :yeah:

HKz
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Rafael was certainly not Rafa today, but seriously another injury...? Come on. Let the excuses fly by Rafatards I suppose.

Take no credit away from Ferrer though, he played absolutely awesome when he needed to. Got broken a little more when the pressure was up, but that is understable from a player who doesn't posses a huge, huge game. Murray should be slightly worried.

This shows just how difficult Federer's 10 and 7 GS finals in row were, so more respect to Federer. Best wishes to Nadal if he is actually injured.

Topspindoctor
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Terrible news for the game. Watch this grinder get thrashed by Murray next :o

Shirogane
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Awesome stuff Pics :hatoff: – the better fighter of the two – really hard not to like the guy. :hearts:

Didn't think he would do it in straights. XD

SheepleBuster
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
WTF. I wanted Nadal to lose but didn't want him to lose to Ferrer. Crap

Nobody's Perfecc
01-26-2011, 11:21 AM
Well played Ferrer. Sad end to the Rafa Slam quest

Bargearse
01-26-2011, 11:21 AM
:woohoo: no Rafa slam :woohoo:

Tom Paulman
01-26-2011, 11:21 AM
Watch all the tards say something about an injury.

gaitare
01-26-2011, 11:21 AM
LOL @ Ferrer giving Nadal "you retire, no?" looks after virtually every game.

What a wonderful day, time for a little party, occk in hand. It feels so gooood.

doomsday
01-26-2011, 11:22 AM
Outplayed. :worship:

shadows
01-26-2011, 11:22 AM
Ferrer absolutely dominated Nadal; what a slaughter, a completely one sided beatdown all over the court.

Clydey
01-26-2011, 11:22 AM
Honestly, I didn't see a great deal wrong with his movement. His attitude was all wrong. He looked defeated as soon as he picked up the injury, even though he was still moving better than 90% of the tour. Unlike Rafa to have a defeatist attitude.

Raiden
01-26-2011, 11:22 AM
Aye Rogi mate, what's the name of the Spanish guy who just did me a favor and helped keep my true Grand Slam pure from mini-slam contamination?

http://www.worldtennismagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/laver-federer.jpg

EternalxJourney
01-26-2011, 11:22 AM
Pics is a gentleman.

Bargearse
01-26-2011, 11:23 AM
:woohoo: No RAFA Slam :woohoo: Thanks Ferrer!

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:23 AM
There goes the Rafa slam. Here starts da drama.

Toaderling
01-26-2011, 11:23 AM
:wavey:

Voo de Mar
01-26-2011, 11:23 AM
It's nice Nadal didn't retire :yeah:, I think his body language was pretty clear, he knew from the 1st set he wouldn't win it, probably he would have retired in the middle of the 2nd set if he had played against a non-Spanish player.

GSMnadal
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Rafa :hug: Great spirit to keep fighting and not retire... Congrats to Ferrer as well, all the best against Murray.

Young 8
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Watch all the tards say something about an injury.

Like Ferrer who just said "Rafa was injured"

amaze
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Congrats, Ferrer!:yeah: Totally outplayed No.1 seed.

Better luck next time, Rafa.:hug: Roland Garros is still achievable.

emotion
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
lol injury was real i think, just really exaggerated
ferrer murray should be good

JolánGagó
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Obviously mono.

Clydey
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Am I the only one who didn't see a great deal wrong with Rafa's movement? His attitude was the problem.

swebright
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
You know playing against the opponent who is screaming "I'm injured, I'm injured" is not nice at all. It's not easy for Ferrer. Good for him. Well done.

Another RogFan
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Well played Ferrer. Sad end to the Rafa Slam quest

Good for Nadal he didn't try to steal the moment and hold to the end. Even idiot like Djokovich should be able to learn from this act.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Did someone say after Dolgopolov's match that there would be no surprise semi-finalist in AO this year. The tradition continues. :rocker2:

danielmom
01-26-2011, 11:25 AM
Congrats Ferrer!!! I like Rafa and am sorry he was hurt but those are the breaks. I think Murray will have his
hands full if Ferrer continues to play this well.

Jelena
01-26-2011, 11:25 AM
Sorry, I have to come up with this:
I don't think Murray will, but I also don't think Rafa will win this four Grand Slam titles in a row. There should have been an option "someone else will do the job" :)
Well done David, and yeah I admit I'm happy there will not be the blabla of the "Grand Slam".

FairWeatherFan
01-26-2011, 11:25 AM
YEEEESSSSSSS

So obvious that when Nadal came up against a big hitter like Ferrer that he knew his sub-standard game would not be good enough to win, and that he would fake an injury. That's exactly what happened tonight.

Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears on court tonight, now that's some SWEEEET karma for those idiotic Nadal fans who mocked Federer's tears on this same venue :lol:

Tennis' reputation has been upheld for now - next time, try harder to kill off the sport even further Rafa :D

YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH! :bounce:

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:25 AM
Sad match

Young 8
01-26-2011, 11:26 AM
Am I the only one who didn't see a great deal wrong with Rafa's movement?

Yes, you need new glasses

loopback
01-26-2011, 11:26 AM
Good work Ferrer

HKz
01-26-2011, 11:26 AM
Like Ferrer who just said "Rafa was injured"

Well, you think he'll say something otherwise even if it isn't the case? He'll turn into the most hated player of all time, he was to say something wrong.

ApproachShot
01-26-2011, 11:26 AM
The heart goes out to both players - to Ferrer for playing astonishingly good tennis (especially in the return games) and to Rafa for trying his best to hang in there.

Young 8
01-26-2011, 11:26 AM
YEEEESSSSSSS

a big hitter like Ferrer



lol

HKz
01-26-2011, 11:27 AM
Am I the only one who didn't see a great deal wrong with Rafa's movement? His attitude was the problem.

I thought he was moving fine as well, struggled to his backhand side, but it was certainly not something that required that much treatment as it appeared.. I mean the announcers made it seem like Nadal's leg was fucking chopped off.

Surcouf
01-26-2011, 11:27 AM
Nadal had a big injury and missed so many easy points.

Everyone who does not acknowledge that is a tool.

henke007
01-26-2011, 11:27 AM
Did Rafa have an injury again like against Robin, Delpo, Murray, GGL etc??:o

FERRER:worship:

GHETTOTENNIS
01-26-2011, 11:27 AM
Best thing that could possibly happen for tennis

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:27 AM
Can't believe people choose to ignore the injury

Modetopia
01-26-2011, 11:27 AM
does not matter who wins nadal will beat both easily.
http://i.imgur.com/INYJc.jpg

sexybeast
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
Nadal was injured, dont know to what extent. He still wasnt injured enought to not have a chanse to win, he could constantly challenge Ferrer in Ferrer's service game. Disappointed with Nadal's attitude, dont know why Djokovic, Nadal and Murray must show visually that they are injured, Sampras and Federer usually fake their injuries and try to look normal out there when they are in pain.

Young 8
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
Well, you think he'll say something otherwise even if it isn't the case? He'll turn into the most hated player of all time, he was to say something wrong.


No, he just used his eyes

Start da Game
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
just glad that this din't happen against that scot.......well done rafa! keep fucking up your health and lose the remaining three slams.......

solowyn
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
where is that idiot nadal slam king
+1 Talk about taking things for granted.

Credit to Ferrer for playing mercilessly.

cheriamor
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
Am I the only one who didn't see a great deal wrong with Rafa's movement? His attitude was the problem.

It started more of a physical problem, but it turned more into a mental problem in the end. He was injured, but I agree with some others that it was over-exaggerated.


PICS! :worship: Never gives up. It would have went to 5 sets, I think, even if Rafa was 100%.

HKz
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
just glad that this din't happen against that scot.......well done rafa! keep fucking up your health and lose the remaining three slams.......

Oh the irony from Nadal's biggest fan girl!

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
YEEEESSSSSSS

So obvious that when Nadal came up against a big hitter like Ferrer that he knew his sub-standard game would not be good enough to win, and that he would fake an injury. That's exactly what happened tonight.

Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears on court tonight, now that's some SWEEEET karma for those idiotic Nadal fans who mocked Federer's tears on this same venue :lol:

Tennis' reputation has been upheld for now - next time, try harder to kill off the sport even further Rafa :D

YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH! :bounce:

Is this for real ? Ferrer hits too big for Nadal? Hilarious to see a player in near tears?

Pretty sick if so.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
So obvious that when Nadal came up against a big hitter like Ferrer


Yeah, he was lucky to get past the giant server Sweeting, and the mental giant Cilic. Oh, and hard court specialist Marcos Daniel.

Shirogane
01-26-2011, 11:29 AM
Am I the only one who didn't see a great deal wrong with Rafa's movement? His attitude was the problem.

No you're not, and yes I agree.

doomsday
01-26-2011, 11:29 AM
Nadal had a big injury and missed so many easy points.

Everyone who does not acknowledge that is a tool.

Blablabla he is out, that's all I need to know.

tennis2tennis
01-26-2011, 11:29 AM
lets give credit where credit is due. From the first 3 games Ferrer was the superior player..aka before rafa was injured...but kudos to rafa for not retiring!

Zagor
01-26-2011, 11:29 AM
Who would have thought that "Rafa Slam" would be stopped by another Spaniard? Credit to Ferrer,he still had to mantain his focus and seal the deal.

green25814
01-26-2011, 11:29 AM
Nadal was obviously hampered, but I don't believe it was anything MAJOR. Ferrer played great, and was totally ruthless.

Bigselber
01-26-2011, 11:29 AM
Good job Ferrer, get well soon Rafa :)
Hope Ferrer will give Murray a run for his Money. If Federer wins this tournament now, and keeps his form he will have a good chance at being ranked 1. again!!

Lopez
01-26-2011, 11:29 AM
Last year's points defended :).

Well done champ :yeah:.

Grats to my fave Spaniard for pulling through :)

castle007
01-26-2011, 11:29 AM
WOW :eek:

I JUST woke up and checked the score and saw that Nadal was down 6-4 6-2 5-2 40-30 and I couldn't believe it. I was able to watch Ferrer serve for the match. Good luck in the SF against Murray!

The commentators were talking about Nadal being injured, was it serious?? They weren't specific about what type of injury it was!! It is sad to see someone lose because of an injury, especially if they are aiming to accomplish something historic.

I am still shocked. I didn't think Ferrer had the belief to win it.

fake edit: They just said that it was a knee injury.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:30 AM
Injured? :lol:

Nadal got trashed fair and square. So much for Clay Death's ultra-advanced supersonic discussions on how Nadal will win AO. :rolls:

FEDtheGOAT
01-26-2011, 11:30 AM
WHY WHY

damn....everytime Nadal loses...is because he's injured or fatigued or whateever....don't you think it's odd.....

just show you who the real GOAT is...

10 straight GS final....not 3.

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:30 AM
I thought he was moving fine as well

You certainly are very discerning.

LinkMage
01-26-2011, 11:30 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

:sport: :sport: :sport: :sport: :sport:

Nadull :bigwave: :bigwave: :bigwave: :bigwave: :bigwave:

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:30 AM
the injury was obvious for everyone to see

Chloe le Bopper
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Nadal had a big injury and missed so many easy points.

Everyone who does not acknowledge that is a tool.
I don't know if I would say it was a "big" injury, but obviously something was wrong. And obviously, yes, this board is absolutely full of tools. I assume that most of them are ten, just started watching tennis yesterday, or are actually mentally challenged. I recommend the ignore function.

toby1526
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Murray will kill Ferrer

Clydey
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Can't believe people choose to ignore the injury

We're not ignoring it. I just think it was nowhere near as bad as is being made out. His movement wasn't 100%, but it was still fine. He was still moving better than 90% of the tour. He simply looked beaten as soon as he picked up the injury, which was no more than a niggle, based on his movement.

GHETTOTENNIS
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Nadal is so incredibly unlucky, everytime he's getting outplayed he also seems to injure himself

Start da Game
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Oh the irony from Nadal's biggest fan girl!

what is your life without nadal's injuries?

HarryMan
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Nadal's attitude to injury seems to be really bad. I hope he recovers soon but also handles injuries better in future. He had an attitude of a defeated man, which was really poor to see.

Commander Data
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Am I the only one who didn't see a great deal wrong with Rafa's movement? His attitude was the problem.

good you know how he felt, what hurt him, what not and how if affected his game and what exactly was his problem.

Thanks for the insights.

Young 8
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Injured? :lol:

Nadal got trashed fair and square. So much for Clay Death's ultra-advanced supersonic discussions on how Nadal will win AO. :rolls:

You need to watch more TV and less box scores

Daniel
01-26-2011, 11:32 AM
Thanks Ferrer. :worship:
pig out of tournament :D

HKz
01-26-2011, 11:32 AM
No, he just used his eyes

Yeah, because Nadal was struggling so badly with his movement right? Just because he isn't reaching every single ball and putting it back with interest 100% of the time, doesn't mean he is back to square one and totally injured. Everyone has their off days, and Nadal calling the trainer dramatically and getting all this time to get worked on just made it appear a lot worse than it is.

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:32 AM
...obviously something was wrong. And obviously, yes, this board is absolutely full of tools. I assume that most of them are ten, just started watching tennis yesterday, or are actually mentally challenged. I recommend the ignore function.

Quoted for truth and utility.

Lopez
01-26-2011, 11:32 AM
Injured? :lol:

Nadal got trashed fair and square. So much for Clay Death's ultra-advanced supersonic discussions on how Nadal will win AO. :rolls:

That thread should be bumped :yeah:

Smasher
01-26-2011, 11:33 AM
Am I the only one who didn't see a great deal wrong with Rafa's movement? His attitude was the problem.

Agreed. Almost crushing his racket there and showing really poor body language. Something he never does. All credit to Ferrer though because he played fantastically. I have a massive respect for the guy

FEDtheGOAT
01-26-2011, 11:33 AM
:D
:p


i'm so happy right now.....

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:33 AM
Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears on court tonight, now that's some SWEEEET karma for those idiotic Nadal fans who mocked Federer's tears on this same venue :lol:


:worship:

Surcouf
01-26-2011, 11:34 AM
We're not ignoring it. I just think it was nowhere near as bad as is being made out. His movement wasn't 100%, but it was still fine. He was still moving better than 90% of the tour. He simply looked beaten as soon as he picked up the injury, which was no more than a niggle, based on his movement.

Give me a break, you are the first guy to cry when Murray has a little problem but you are downplaying when the number 1 can't even put a ball in the field.

That's beyond pathetic.

Nadal lost because he was injured. He was not even playing top 50 today. Awful performance. The worst of his carreer. Even worse than his injury against Soderling.

Clydey
01-26-2011, 11:34 AM
Nadal's attitude to injury seems to be really bad. I hope he recovers soon but also handles injuries better in future. He had an attitude of a defeated man, which was really poor to see.

I agree. He spent far too much time feeling sorry for himself instead of finding a way to win. It's not like he was on one leg. He was hampered slightly, but it was nothing major.

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:34 AM
Yeah, because Nadal was struggling so badly with his movement right? Just because he isn't reaching every single ball and putting it back with interest 100% of the time, doesn't mean he is back to square one and totally injured. Everyone has their off days, and Nadal calling the trainer dramatically and getting all this time to get worked on just made it appear a lot worse than it is.

Wow you really are a piece of work.

In your view this was a garden variety "off day."

The guy could hardly push off to one side and was grimacing in pain, went for broke in positions he never does.

He went to the trainer as well as the doctor for treatment and advice. His camp was visibly terrorized.

Yea, it was an "off day."

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:34 AM
We're not ignoring it. I just think it was nowhere near as bad as is being made out. His movement wasn't 100%, but it was still fine. He was still moving better than 90% of the tour. He simply looked beaten as soon as he picked up the injury, which was no more than a niggle, based on his movement.

Moving better than 90% of the tour. Please don't insult men's tennis like that again. You're simply speculating here. Even Pics admitted that Rafa was clearly not himself out there.

Commander Data
01-26-2011, 11:34 AM
So obvious that when Nadal came up against a big hitter like Ferrer that he knew his sub-standard game would not be good enough to win, and that he would fake an injury.

schizophrenia is a serious condition.

pablo2k1
01-26-2011, 11:35 AM
I haven't had the benefit of watching the match, so can anyone tell me was there a particular incident during the match that caused the injury? I find it strange because after the Cilic match Rafa said he was feeling the best he'd felt all year physically. It is true that every match he loses there is talk of an injury.

Shirogane
01-26-2011, 11:35 AM
Did Rafa have an injury again like against Robin, Delpo, Murray, GGL etc??:o

FERRER:worship:

:worship:

green25814
01-26-2011, 11:35 AM
Yeah, I'm going to agree with those saying that something was wrong with Nadal but it wasn't something impossible to play through. Ferrer is a nightmare match up in that situation however.

Clydey
01-26-2011, 11:35 AM
good you know how he felt, what hurt him, what not and how if affected his game and what exactly was his problem.

Thanks for the insights.

I didn't say any of the above, so I have no idea what you're going on about. However, I did see his movement. I can only base my opinion on that.

madmax
01-26-2011, 11:35 AM
Nadal is so incredibly unlucky, everytime he's getting outplayed he also seems to injure himself

:haha::devil: Poor guy can't catch a break with these damn injuries whenever his opponent starts trashing him on court.

Shirogane
01-26-2011, 11:36 AM
Nadal was injured, dont know to what extent. He still wasnt injured enought to not have a chanse to win, he could constantly challenge Ferrer in Ferrer's service game. Disappointed with Nadal's attitude, dont know why Djokovic, Nadal and Murray must show visually that they are injured, Sampras and Federer usually fake their injuries and try to look normal out there when they are in pain.

You mean hide...

habibko
01-26-2011, 11:36 AM
Honestly, I didn't see a great deal wrong with his movement. His attitude was all wrong. He looked defeated as soon as he picked up the injury, even though he was still moving better than 90% of the tour. Unlike Rafa to have a defeatist attitude.

his fighter qualities have always been overrated by his tards, I've lost count on how many times he retired in the past few years only, compare that to the legend who has never retired :worship:

Nadal made sure his niggle is known to all and tried to get inside Ferrer's head with it, it worked sometimes, but Ferrer eventually held his own and defeated him, I'll take the roasting even though the pork is a bit rotten :/

HKz
01-26-2011, 11:36 AM
Wow you really are a piece of work.

In your view this was a garden variety "off day."

The guy could hardly push off to one side and was grimacing in pain, went for broke in positions he never does.

He went to the trainer as well as the doctor for treatment and advice. His camp was visibly terrorized.

Yea, it was an "off day."

You should really become Nadal's spokeswoman.

Fact is, this ISN'T the first time.

solowyn
01-26-2011, 11:36 AM
..now that's some SWEEEET karma for those idiotic Nadal fans who mocked Federer's tears on this same venue :lol:
Sorry, but this is true.

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:36 AM
:worship:

Nice to see that someone actually worships comments like "Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears"

I thought that post was a sarcastic caricature of a hater's post but I see I underestimated the lunacy here.

mickymouse
01-26-2011, 11:37 AM
Really happy for Ferrer although I doubt he has enough guile and weapons to trouble Murray and even if he did, it's hard to see him getting past Federer/Djokovic.

FEDtheGOAT
01-26-2011, 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FairWeatherFan

Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears on court tonight, now that's some SWEEEET karma for those idiotic Nadal fans who mocked Federer's tears on this same venue



best post

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:37 AM
The little terrier Ferrer teaches Cilic, Djokovic and the others how to play Nadal.
:yeah:

Nadal's third big lesson after Tsonga 08, Delpo 09.

cheriamor
01-26-2011, 11:37 AM
Yeah, I'm going to agree with those saying that something was wrong with Nadal but it wasn't something impossible to play through. Ferrer is a nightmare match up in that situation however.

Exactly, Ferrer doesn't let up. I think that had Nadal been playing someone else, the injury wouldn't have been such a problem. He had to move all over the place.

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:38 AM
his fighter qualities have always been overrated by his tards, I've lost count on how many times he retired in the past few years only, compare that to the legend who has never retired :worship:

Nadal made sure his niggle is known to all and tried to get inside Ferrer's head with it, it worked sometimes, but Ferrer eventually held his own and defeated him, I'll take the roasting even though the pork is a bit rotten :/

A little compassion goes a long way...

Clydey
01-26-2011, 11:38 AM
Give me a break, you are the first guy to cry when Murray has a little problem but you are downplaying when the number 1 can't even put a ball in the field.

That's beyond pathetic.

Nadal lost because he was injured. He was not even playing top 50 today. Awful performance. The worst of his carreer. Even worse than his injury against Soderling.

Really? I don't recall blaming a Murray injury for a loss. You'll have to remind me. Murray is always clutching at different body parts. It doesn't mean he is injured and I have never suggested otherwise.

Vida
01-26-2011, 11:38 AM
congratz to ferrer. :yeah:

he played awesome. really, some of those shots were out of this world, he basically blew rafa off the court!

Ozdog
01-26-2011, 11:38 AM
I did pick Fer to win, but not in 3. bit stunned really

HNCS
01-26-2011, 11:38 AM
the match was quite simple. Nadal was injured, but not crippled. Ferrer played awesome, and outplayed nadal fair and square.

I expect the talks about nadal's longevity to return. was quite sad to see nadal look the way he looked... but selfishly, i am breathing a sigh of relief about the rafa slam...

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:39 AM
Nice to see that someone actually worships comments like "Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears"

I thought that post was a sarcastic caricature of a hater's post but I see I underestimated the lunacy here.

It was written in response to what Nadal fans did when Roger lost 09.
Read the whole thing before going sentimental.

HKz
01-26-2011, 11:39 AM
Well, goodnight MTF, have fun arguing for a couple of days about this match/the injury/Nadal in general (insert Federer in there somehow).

Clydey
01-26-2011, 11:39 AM
Moving better than 90% of the tour. Please don't insult men's tennis like that again. You're simply speculating here. Even Pics admitted that Rafa was clearly not himself out there.

So you're saying Nadal could barely move?

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:39 AM
You should really become Nadal's spokeswoman.

Fact is, this ISN'T the first time.

I won't say what you should become because I am sure it would get me banned.

Fact is, people get injured playing sports and it happens more than once especially players who push hard at their limits.

Anyone who knows what Nadal plays like (or frankly, any top 20 player) knows this was not simply "an off day"

Daniel
01-26-2011, 11:40 AM
:rocker: Ferrer

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
01-26-2011, 11:40 AM
tennis saved.
Definition of a miracle- a spaniard takin nadal out in straight sets. Murray will never have a better chance of winning

bokehlicious
01-26-2011, 11:40 AM
Sad match

:awww: :hug: :hug:

FEDtheGOAT
01-26-2011, 11:41 AM
NADAL = OVERRATED.....

lucky to have won the US OPEN...


10 straight GS FINAL.....NOT 3

GOAT STUFF

Smasher
01-26-2011, 11:42 AM
Maybe Nadal should play less exhos and take part in a few less doubles tournaments from now on, no? His scheduling has been truly pathetic

philosophicalarf
01-26-2011, 11:42 AM
I haven't had the benefit of watching the match, so can anyone tell me was there a particular incident during the match that caused the injury?

After 2nd or 3rd game he had a MTO. Went off court shaking his head to his camp, and the left thigh was heavily strapped, so clearly went into the match with it. You could see in particular when he launched himself onto it to make a defensive retrieve on the forehand the left leg buckled, and he was slow to get back into place - Ferrer was using that a lot.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:42 AM
Irony of ironies. :lol:

All of Spain must be frowning at Ferrer now.

alfonsojose
01-26-2011, 11:42 AM
YEs :D :wavey: Injury? My a**

sexybeast
01-26-2011, 11:42 AM
You mean hide...

Yes, phrased that one wrong. Look, I am saying that if Nadal is going to live up to the spartan spirit and the stoic mentality, you find yourself in an uncomfortable position where you are physicaly far from 100% and you keep on playing than atleast to give yourself the best possible chanse to win the match even if it is only a 5% chanse, dont whine and act like a little boy who are not allowed to play with his toys, dont look up to your uncle and cry because destiny is so unfair to you, Nadal should have stood there like a man and scream his "Vamos" and try to make it look like he wasnt injured.

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:43 AM
It was written in response to what Nadal fans did when Roger lost 09.
Read the whole thing before going sentimental.

Sentimental?

You "worship" a post in which the poster states clearly "Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears"

Calling Nadal, Federer or any other top player trash is pathetic and finding an injured player's disappointment "hilarious" is even worse.

FEDtheGOAT
01-26-2011, 11:44 AM
Sentimental?

You "worship" a post in which the poster states clearly "Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears"

Calling Nadal, Federer or any other top player trash is pathetic and finding an injured player's disappointment "hilarious" is even worse.


Karma is a bitch isn't it?

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:44 AM
It begs to be asked: Who's the more loyal friend; Wawrinka or Ferrer? :lol:

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:45 AM
So you're saying Nadal could barely move?
Of course he could move, but obviously not well enough to be a serious threat to Pics out there. Yes Pics still had to focus on his game and play well and that's to his credit. It is easy to focus on your opponent and lose your game. I just think we should not be so dismissive of something that was obviously a huge factor to how the match unfolded. Is that too much to ask ?

ossie
01-26-2011, 11:45 AM
rafa was not injured people, tired maybe but thats what grinding does to you. ferrer was the better player today and im glad it was him to take out rafa, he is a true tennis player unlike some all-serve mugs out there.

bandabou
01-26-2011, 11:47 AM
Hmmmm....

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:47 AM
rafa was not injured people, tired maybe but thats what grinding does to you


Did you even watch the match? If so, I am embarrassed for you.

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:47 AM
:awww: :hug: :hug:

You can change your sig now P.Antonius :haha: :haha:

Clydey
01-26-2011, 11:47 AM
Of course he could move, but obviously not well enough to be a serious threat to Pics out there. Yes Pics still had to focus on his game and play well and that's to his credit. It is easy to focus on your opponent and lose your game. I just think we should not be so dismissive of something that was obviously a huge factor to how the match unfolded. Is that too much to ask ?

That's my point. I don't think the injury itself was a huge factor, based on how Nadal was moving. I think his reaction to the injury was a bigger factor. He spent the remainder of the match feeling sorry for himself instead of digging in.

TommyCZE
01-26-2011, 11:47 AM
Havent noticed any injuries to Nadal, he looked ill for all the tournament, but there was no movement difficulty today, just mental attitude and maybe that virus. He was outplayed and the score could have been more thrashing had not Ferrer made that big number of UEs.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:47 AM
Sentimental?

You "worship" a post in which the poster states clearly "Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears"

Calling Nadal, Federer or any other top player trash is pathetic and finding an injured player's disappointment "hilarious" is even worse.

Oh, cry me a river! It was written in response to how most posters on internet forums reacted to Federer's loss at 09 and attacked his tears.

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:47 AM
Of course he could move, but obviously not well enough to be a serious threat to Pics out there. Yes Pics still had to focus on his game and play well and that's to his credit. It is easy to focus on your opponent and lose your game. I just think we should not be so dismissive of something that was obviously a huge factor to how the match unfolded. Is that too much to ask ?

100% accurate and yes it is too much to ask here.

alfonsojose
01-26-2011, 11:48 AM
tennis saved.
Definition of a miracle- a spaniard takin nadal out in straight sets. Murray will never have a better chance of winning

:yeah: So happy now

ChampionshipPoints
01-26-2011, 11:49 AM
So whenever Nadal loses, he has to be injured? Give me a break!

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:49 AM
That's my point. I don't think the injury itself was a huge factor, based on how Nadal was moving. I think his reaction to the injury was a bigger factor. He spent the remainder of the match feeling sorry for himself instead of digging in.

I hear you.

djb84xi
01-26-2011, 11:50 AM
Let me just say this, anyone who couldn't clearly see Rafa was in pain, needs their head examined. The guy was in pain......how much? NONE of us know, because we weren't out there or next to him, to even know. We still don't know what the exact injury is or how severe it may or may not be. I think he just carried on, just for the sake of not retiring and making himself look bad. I will give him credit for continuing on.

Even if some of you don't like Rafa, the least you could do is show kind of concern, knowing the man is in pain. If you were in his place, would you want people cheering because you're hurt??? I don't think so. I will give credit where it's due. Ferrer did what he was supposed to do...execute his game plan. He played well and he deserved the win, without a shadow of a doubt, so I applaud him and hopes he plays well in the semis.

A lot of people on here are such pricks for the comments they're making. There are players I don't care for, but that doesn't mean I go and start cheering because they suffer injuries, and lose matches. If you wanted him to lose, that's on you, but it should never be through injury. That shows how cruel and heartless some of you really are, and I'm embarrassed to be on such a great site where you're even allowed to post in any thread.

I'm proud of Nadal, win or lose. So what he doesn't get the Rafa Slam. He's still a winner to me, regardless of what anyone thinks. Laver got what he wanted out of this, and so did all the anti-Nadal fans. I hope you're all happy now. At least I have the pleasure of knowing none of you will ever have as much class as Rafa or be anywhere near as successful as he is.


Congrats David!!! Get better Rafa. I wish you a safe recovery.

Surcouf
01-26-2011, 11:50 AM
You have to be some kind of inferior human being to deny the reality of Nadal's injury.

I am shocked at how stupid some people are.

Surcouf
01-26-2011, 11:51 AM
So whenever Nadal loses, he has to be injured? Give me a break!

When he takes 10 times the Kine, look in pain, misses very easy shot and play like a top 50 you are sure that he is injured.

paseo
01-26-2011, 11:51 AM
F*ck. I was so sure that Nadal would win this. F*ck.

swebright
01-26-2011, 11:51 AM
Someone post the link to press conference please when it's available.

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 11:51 AM
Oh, cry me a river! It was written in response to how most posters on internet forums reacted to Federer's loss at 09 and attacked his tears.

Yes and your response is to up the ante and be even more of a schmuck.

You "worship" a post in which the poster states clearly "Thank you Ferrer for taking out the trash. Hilarious to see Nadal in near-tears"

Referring to internet forums in the past doesn't change that; calling Nadal, Federer or any other top player trash is pathetic and finding an injured player's disappointment "hilarious" is even worse.

Arkulari
01-26-2011, 11:51 AM
Irony of ironies. :lol:

All of Spain must be frowning at Ferrer now.

Why? for doing his job? it's more likely that we would think badly about someone who doesn't make an effort :shrug:

So much for the whole "Spaniards always bend for Nadal specially in GS" argument, 98% Rafa wins because he's the best player of our country, but people like Pics will beat him if they are on fire and he isn't at his best.

Sad match to watch, Rafa was not moving well, specially when he tried to hit his BH DTL and when he tried to split to reach balls, I think he finished the match because he respects Pics but if it was any other player he might have retired.

Once the injury picked up, Rafa's body language went completely down, he was shaking his head, angry, hitting the speed counter, the racket, frustrated... :sad:

Cannot take anything away from Pics, just congratulate him for playing in such a high level during this whole Oceanic adventure :yeah:

FEDtheGOAT
01-26-2011, 11:51 AM
You have to be some kind of inferior human being to deny the reality of Nadal's injury.

I am shocked at how stupid some people are.


so basically....everytime Nadal loses....he's injured...

he's one unlucky son of a....

habibko
01-26-2011, 11:52 AM
A little compassion goes a long way...

he has his fans for that, I've said it before that he has only himself to blame for not only playing a suicidal style of play, but also for playing everything under the sun.

Voo de Mar
01-26-2011, 11:53 AM
I think Nadal is a bit limited tactically, he had visible problems with his left leg in all longer rallies so he should have changed something. He is not a doubles nobody - Grand Slam semifinalist & Masters Series winner, so he knows what does it mean going to the net after the serve. Pics is a counter-puncher but staying on the back against him in Nadal's physical condition was worse than attacking to the net. Obviously Nadal would have lost 4-6 1-6 1-6 but I don't think the scoreline is so important for him when he already has one game won in a set :o

philosophicalarf
01-26-2011, 11:53 AM
I am shocked at how stupid some people are.

Why?

Allez
01-26-2011, 11:53 AM
You have to be some kind of inferior human being to deny the reality of Nadal's injury.


I said this in the commentary thread. Like a pack of hyenas baying for blood. Unbelievable :rolleyes:

delpiero7
01-26-2011, 11:53 AM
Well, this is a confusing result to say the least. It totally flies in the face of the Second Law of Nadal (aka the Haters' Law), which states that all fellow Spaniards happily bend over for their idol Nadal.

For that reason I am struggling to make sense of this result. Obviously the Law itself cannot be wrong, can it? Maybe one of the haters would care to explain how this result is possible.

Still, Ferru. :yeah:

castle007
01-26-2011, 11:54 AM
Apparently Rafa was near tears at some points in the third set. :sad: It must be a serious injury.

Rafa needs to reevaluate his schedule. I think playing Doha while sick was a big mistake. Your injury is drained and your body is more susceptible to pick up injuries. And it doesn't help if you already have a history of knee injuries.

I hope it is nothing serious, but it looks like it is. :(

Nirjhor
01-26-2011, 11:55 AM
Am I the only one who didn't see a great deal wrong with Rafa's movement? His attitude was the problem.

Not only you. Me too! :wavey:

Soliloque
01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Very good effort by Ferrer. He played very good tennis and was able to close it out. He deserves to be in semi, his tournament has been very clean for the moment.

Rafa was not at 100%, but sadly, that's part of the game. He was still fighting till the end, that's what champions do. Hope he'll recover soon.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Well, this is a confusing result to say the least. It totally flies in the face of the Second Law of Nadal (aka the Haters' Law), which states that all fellow Spaniards happily bend over for their idol Nadal.


That's not really been the case for Ferrer. He beat him at the US Open and TMC in 2007, and has given him good matches since - the h2h is a little misleading there. Yes, he lost all on clay unsurprisingly, but on hard he retired once, and the other (Miami 2010) Nadal only edged him 76 64.

HarryMan
01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Let me just say this, anyone who couldn't clearly see Rafa was in pain, needs their head examined. The guy was in pain......how much? NONE of us know, because we weren't out there or next to him, to even know. We still don't know what the exact injury is or how severe it may or may not be. I think he just carried on, just for the sake of not retiring and making himself look bad. I will give him credit for continuing on.

Even if some of you don't like Rafa, the least you could do is show kind of concern, knowing the man is in pain. If you were in his place, would you want people cheering because you're hurt??? I don't think so. I will give credit where it's due. Ferrer did what he was supposed to do...execute his game plan. He played well and he deserved the win, without a shadow of a doubt, so I applaud him and hopes he plays well in the semis.

A lot of people on here are such pricks for the comments they're making. There are players I don't care for, but that doesn't mean I go and start cheering because they suffer injuries, and lose matches. If you wanted him to lose, that's on you, but it should never be through injury. That shows how cruel and heartless some of you really are, and I'm embarrassed to be on such a great site where you're even allowed to post in any thread.

I'm proud of Nadal, win or lose. So what he doesn't get the Rafa Slam. He's still a winner to me, regardless of what anyone thinks. Laver got what he wanted out of this, and so did all the anti-Nadal fans. I hope you're all happy now. At least I have the pleasure of knowing none of you will ever have as much class as Rafa or be anywhere near as successful as he is.


Congrats David!!! Get better Rafa. I wish you a safe recovery.

Honestly, for someone asking for people to show sympathy for Nadal, don't you think it would make sense for you to not comment on things you are not sure about? How do you know what Laver wants? And why would he care about Nadal or any of his achievements or want to degrade him for anything?

bokehlicious
01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Well, Rafa still remains undefeated when healthy... No big deal for the rafatards I guess :sport: :smoke:

Kiedis
01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Well, this is a confusing result to say the least. It totally flies in the face of the Second Law of Nadal (aka the Haters' Law), which states that all fellow Spaniards happily bend over for their idol Nadal.

For that reason I am struggling to make sense of this result. Obviously the Law itself cannot be wrong, can it? Maybe one of the haters would care to explain how this result is possible.

Still, Ferru. :yeah:

An example on the live scoring thread:

:retard: nothing to see here... was all acting to give a set to his compatriot.

There are too many clowns in this board :o

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
lets give credit where credit is due. From the first 3 games Ferrer was the superior player..aka before rafa was injured...but kudos to rafa for not retiring!

Well said. Nadal's first service game was itself the deciding factor. And Ferrer prevailed after more than 20 minutes. Then Nadal went 'injured.'

As you said, its good on Nadal to not retire. He wasn't fighting, showed no spirit, but he hung there. Well done. He'll have his slams, I'm sure.

paseo
01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
I don't know how serious Nadal's injury really is, but he made sure that the whole world knows about it. What a drama queen.

What a mug, this Nadal. I lost all my vcash. Damn.

Surcouf
01-26-2011, 11:58 AM
Actually you're the stupid one crying on this thread how injured your player was please get over it.
Shut up and go and cry on your bed, No rafa slam for your boyfriend ok get over it.
He wasn't going to get it anyway Murray Fed or Djoker would've stop him in his track.

You are an inferior.

Kiedis
01-26-2011, 11:58 AM
Me alegro mucho, Ferru, te lo mereces!

FEDtheGOAT
01-26-2011, 11:59 AM
Well, Rafa still remains undefeated when healthy... No big deal for the rafatards I guess :sport: :smoke:

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Topspindoctor
01-26-2011, 11:59 AM
Honestly, for someone asking for people to show sympathy for Nadal, don't you think it would make sense for you to not comment on things you are not sure about? How do you know what Laver wants? And why would he care about Nadal or any of his achievements or want to degrade him for anything?

Because he got all butthurt at the possibility of Nadal winning all 4 in a row. He's a bitter old man.

Castafiore
01-26-2011, 12:00 PM
Yes, let's rejoice about a possible injury instead. :rolleyes:


Good for Ferrer. His matches against Nadal are always tough and he goes on court believing he can win. :yeah:

sabina_RF_lee
01-26-2011, 12:01 PM
no more rafa slam?????:haha: EPIC FAIL

and rafa was ok, he was running good, his movement were good, so there is NO INJURY!stop it, every time he loses he says its injury, what a shame:o

well done Ferrer, he killed Nadull:devil:

Rosa Luxembourg
01-26-2011, 12:02 PM
injury, no injury, who cares????? the important thing no "GS" followed by endless butt licking after that :rolls:

chalkdust
01-26-2011, 12:02 PM
1. I really am glad that the Rafa slam has been avoided. I like Rafa the man, but Rafa's tennis is not my favourite style.

2. Rafa was injured, not crippled, but badly enough injured that he could not really play well enough to live with Ferrer, who was playing very well and intelligently, moving Rafa around the court. Even if Ferrer had choked this match, Rafa probably also knew that, in an injured state (however badly), he would be set up for a loss to Murray or in the final. Given this, it is not surprising he looked so downcast.

I have to say, I wish Rafa could stay conspicuously injury-free in all hard-court and grass matches, just so we can find out what his true potential is on these surfaces. It is kind of annoying that so many of his losses are clouded by injury factors.

tribalfusion
01-26-2011, 12:03 PM
and rafa was ok, he was running good, his movement were good, so there is NO INJURY!


You watched a different match.

Allez
01-26-2011, 12:03 PM
1. I really am glad that the Rafa slam has been avoided. I like Rafa the man, but Rafa's tennis is not my favourite style.

2. Rafa was injured, not crippled, but badly enough injured that he could not really play well enough to live with Ferrer, who was playing very well and intelligently, moving Rafa around the court. Even if Ferrer had choked this match, Rafa probably also knew that, in an injured state (however badly), he would be set up for a loss to Murray or in the final. Given this, it is not surprising he looked so downcast.

I have to say, I wish Rafa could stay conspicuously injury-free in all hard-court and grass matches, just so we can find out what his true potential is on these surfaces. It is kind of annoying that so many of his losses are clouded by injury factors.

Well said :yeah:

FEDtheGOAT
01-26-2011, 12:04 PM
shit happens.... Rafa will be back to own Fed and the other noobs.
VAMOS RAFA!!!

get 10 straight gs final then talk to me about owning FED

Castafiore
01-26-2011, 12:07 PM
You watched a different match.
or didn't watch it at all. ;)

I doubt that it's a serious injury (at least, I'm hoping it's the case) but anybody could see that he was bothered but he still tried to hold on so Ferrer still had to get this victory.

Then again, that's part of the sport. You can't play every match at 100%, stuff happens. Ferrer deserves praise for winning. It's his second major SF.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:08 PM
Why? for doing his job? it's more likely that we would think badly about someone who doesn't make an effort :shrug:

So much for the whole "Spaniards always bend for Nadal specially in GS" argument, 98% Rafa wins because he's the best player of our country, but people like Pics will beat him if they are on fire and he isn't at his best.

Sad match to watch, Rafa was not moving well, specially when he tried to hit his BH DTL and when he tried to split to reach balls, I think he finished the match because he respects Pics but if it was any other player he might have retired.

Once the injury picked up, Rafa's body language went completely down, he was shaking his head, angry, hitting the speed counter, the racket, frustrated... :sad:

Cannot take anything away from Pics, just congratulate him for playing in such a high level during this whole Oceanic adventure :yeah:

Hey, obviously I was only alluding to the Rafa Slam, nothing else. Spaniards are some of the nicest people I've met but the better player on the day won.

But I'll not give in to the injury theory at this forum, not when he outplayed Cilic like he did yesterday.

Chartreuse
01-26-2011, 12:08 PM
Easiest SF possible for Murray. LOL.

Topspindoctor
01-26-2011, 12:09 PM
Basically it seemed to me like Nadal tanked the match. He could still beat Ferrer, but he chose to go easy on his body in the last two sets and just finish points quickly. The problem with the injury is that there was no chance against Murray, if he wasn't at his absolute best. Murray matches are difficult even when he's at 100%, but with hamstring hampering his movement, he would lose in 3 routine sets and give Mugray an undeserved confidence boost for their next meeting. By tanking this match, Nadal sort of threw Ferrer to the wolves and decided to save his body. Of course, he was very disappointed - but not for losing to an inferior player like Ferrer - he was disappointed for not winning 4 majors in a row due to untimely injury.

Castafiore
01-26-2011, 12:10 PM
Basically it seemed to me like Nadal tanked the match. He could still beat Ferrer...
Come on, man. Give Ferrer some credit.

I don't believe for a second that Nadal tanked. Ferrer just about always plays tough against Nadal.

Chartreuse
01-26-2011, 12:11 PM
Murray to win AO? Fed and Nole will fight it out way harder. Murray will easily beat Ferrer...

swebright
01-26-2011, 12:11 PM
For Rafa, his losses and injuries go hand in hand. Or, at least there's some talks about injury always going on especially at slam events.

Fed's losses are because he played bad.

madmax
01-26-2011, 12:12 PM
Basically it seemed to me like Nadal tanked the match. He could still beat Ferrer, but he chose to go easy on his body in the last two sets and just finish points quickly. The problem with the injury is that there was no chance against Murray, if he wasn't at his absolute best. Murray matches are difficult even when he's at 100%, but with hamstring hampering his movement, he would lose in 3 routine sets and give Mugray an undeserved confidence boost for their next meeting. By tanking this match, Nadal sort of threw Ferrer to the wolves and decided to save his body. Of course, he was very disappointed - but not for losing to an inferior player like Ferrer - he was disappointed for not winning 4 majors in a row due to untimely injury.

now that's a true devoted tard talking:worship:

Malva
01-26-2011, 12:13 PM
So ugly Murray is in the final again? :o Disgusting!

GasquetFan
01-26-2011, 12:13 PM
What a classy press conference from Rafa :worship:

Castafiore
01-26-2011, 12:14 PM
Ferrer has a good record against Murray. Not sure that Murray will have an easy time.

Rosa Luxembourg
01-26-2011, 12:15 PM
So ugly Murray is in the final again? :o Disgusting!


my sentiment too :o

Vida
01-26-2011, 12:16 PM
pity rafa wont complete the rafa slam.

Surcouf
01-26-2011, 12:17 PM
People saying Nadal was not injured should slap themselves.

joplin
01-26-2011, 12:17 PM
For Rafa, his losses and injuries go hand in hand. Or, at least there's some talks about injury always going on especially at slam events.

Fed's losses are because he played bad.
and that will always be the difference between them, fed just has that style of play, where there almost isn´t any risk of an injury

Chartreuse
01-26-2011, 12:18 PM
Ferrer has a good record against Murray. Not sure that Murray will have an easy time.

On clay.. Murray is not good enough on clay. On HC it is different. Last HC meeting Murray spanked Ferrer 6-2, 6-2 at the YEC in 2010.

Nekromanta
01-26-2011, 12:19 PM
get 10 straight gs final then talk to me about owning FED

I'm talking about Nadal vs Fed not Fed vs safin and hewitt noob.

Rafa owns Fed in GSs too :bigwave:

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:19 PM
1. I really am glad that the Rafa slam has been avoided. I like Rafa the man, but Rafa's tennis is not my favourite style.


I have no issues against Nadal winning any number of slams. I did have some agenda against the Rafa Slam because then it would always be compared against the true achievements made by Laver in a single year. Worse, NAdal would win all those arguments thanks to his legions of tards because 'he played in a tougher era than Laver' etc. But truth is Nadal is a great athlete who can wield a racket well, not a refined tennis player at all who's aesthetics will be appreciated by people who love the game. If he would have completed his 'four-in-a-row' people who knew why tennis was different from simple athletics would have nothing left to love.

joplin
01-26-2011, 12:22 PM
let this be a lesson for rafa, no more exos in the offseason, which it wasn´t (only how much, for days of a break?)
I thing at this point of his career he must focus on all majors an a clay court season, to somewhat maintain his no. 1 rankings

The Magician
01-26-2011, 12:23 PM
Can't believe I missed this :o Gotta watch the replay ASAP. However I do have an initial reaction:

:worship:DAVID PICS FERRER:worship:
:aparty:Tennis is saved:aparty:
This win devoted to: Topspintard, Nadull_Slam_King, Start Da Brain, Peribsen, tribalfusion, Clown Death, CareerGrandSlam, RafaWonCYGS, R=FK, EverKlown, and any other Nadulltards I forgot to mention:yeah:

Nirjhor
01-26-2011, 12:23 PM
So ugly Murray is in the final again? :o Disgusting!

yeah! :mad: now the media has a chance to make Murray as the winner of a GS(in a dream, of course)! But seriously, Murry won't be the winner of this title.

doomsday
01-26-2011, 12:24 PM
I'm talking about Nadal vs Fed not Fed vs safin and hewitt noob.

Rafa owns Fed in GSs too :bigwave:

Nadal must feel so good right now he owns Fed in majors, youpiii please take the exit just like your fave did.:lol:

Chartreuse
01-26-2011, 12:25 PM
Ferrer is good for the game unlike Wawa who tanked vs Fed.

Nekromanta
01-26-2011, 12:25 PM
Nadal must feel so good right now he owns Fed in majors, youpiii please take the exit just like your fave did.:lol:


No noob. There's great future before Rafa, Fed is the past :sad:

The Magician
01-26-2011, 12:25 PM
Can't wait to read through this thread to see the tard tears and excuses :hearts::bigclap::dance::yippee::bdaycake:

The Magician
01-26-2011, 12:26 PM
No noob. There's great future before Rafa, Fed is the past :sad:

Good to see this clown is back from his ban just in time :wavey:

tennis2tennis
01-26-2011, 12:26 PM
Ferrer is good for the game unlike Wawa who tanked vs Fed.

yeah man his 11/3 win loss ratio was clear for all 2c:devil:

on another note expect the organisers 2 use cricket balls next year to remedy the situation!

doomsday
01-26-2011, 12:27 PM
No noob. There's great future before Rafa, Fed is the past :sad:

and yet Fed is in the last four, Nadal isn't:help:

Allez
01-26-2011, 12:28 PM
I do not believe Rafa tanked this match at all. He tried but he just did not have it in the legs due to the injury. He lost the match, you'd think some people would be satisfied with that.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:28 PM
NAdal's presser should be interesting.

malisha
01-26-2011, 12:29 PM
good and smart match from Ferrer..congrats

Rafa wasnt at 100% but wolud be better if he avoided that awful bodylanguage...Ferrer was looking for the retirement all the time and no he wasnt scared at all..he wanted to save Rafa from his misery

good that he didnt hit his knees today..wolud hate to see that again(hitting his leg with a racquet looks more natural IMO)

bandabou
01-26-2011, 12:29 PM
reaching 4 finals in a row to begin with isn't an easy feat, soo..

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:29 PM
I do not believe Rafa tanked this match at all. He tried but he just did not have it in the legs due to the injury. He lost the match, you'd think some people would be satisfied with that.

Explain me his fine performance against Cilic.

Castafiore
01-26-2011, 12:30 PM
a refined tennis player at all who's aesthetics will be appreciated by people who love the game.
You're making a bit of a sweeping statement about people who love the game here.

manadrainer
01-26-2011, 12:31 PM
Rafa Slam my ass!

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

tennis is saved!!! What a Spartan this Ferrer, must be king Leonidas himself!

rafaelita
01-26-2011, 12:31 PM
Apparently Rafa was near tears at some points in the third set. :sad: It must be a serious injury.

Rafa needs to reevaluate his schedule. I think playing Doha while sick was a big mistake. Your injury is drained and your body is more susceptible to pick up injuries. And it doesn't help if you already have a history of knee injuries.

I hope it is nothing serious, but it looks like it is. :(

Agree. It was as stupid as playing Madrid in 09 which did cost him the RG. Imo. This was sad but moving on anyway. Wish him speedy recovery.

As for Ferrer, he played very well, did his best and won so congrats to him. That's all there is to it. And congrats to Rafa too for staying there and finishing the match. My 2 cents.

Peace.

Chartreuse
01-26-2011, 12:31 PM
Murray will kill Ferrer

This.

Castafiore
01-26-2011, 12:32 PM
Explain me his fine performance against Cilic.
Judging by reports coming in, the hamstring problem arised in the first set of games of the Ferrer match so well after the Cilic match.

Raiden
01-26-2011, 12:33 PM
Explain me his fine performance against Cilic.Indeed. Lest we forget that that Cilic clash was Nadal's best match of the tournament according to Nadal himself!

Nekromanta
01-26-2011, 12:33 PM
and yet Fed is in the last four, Nadal isn't:help:

That doesn't matter. Rafa achieved more than Fed at this age and he has a lot more before him while Fed has no future in tennis:sad:

JayR
01-26-2011, 12:33 PM
By tanking this match, Nadal sort of threw Ferrer to the wolves and decided to save his body. Of course, he was very disappointed - but not for losing to an inferior player like Ferrer - he was disappointed for not winning 4 majors in a row due to untimely injury.

How very gracious.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2011, 12:34 PM
Judging by reports coming in, the hamstring problem arised in the first set of games of the Ferrer match so well after the Cilic match.

2nd game, apparently.

Might be something minor in training that has become major in the match.

nobama
01-26-2011, 12:34 PM
NAdal's presser should be interesting.Why? He doesn't normally bring up injuries right after a loss does he? That usually comes later. Or in some cases doesn't come at all b/c the sycophant media makes enough excuses for him he doesn't need to say anything. I mean tonight on ESPN it sounded like someone had died and Patrick McEnroe was going to a funeral.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:34 PM
Judging by reports coming in, the hamstring problem arised in the first set of games of the Ferrer match so well after the Cilic match.

Perfect timing as usual. :yeah:

Just when Pics started hitting through the ball and throw Nadal of the court, injury strikes! If Nadal would get back into the match in the third set, the hamstring would be okay, no?

Allez
01-26-2011, 12:35 PM
Is that your real age :eek: :eek:

Corey Feldman
01-26-2011, 12:37 PM
so there went the Rafa Slam
hopefully Muzza steps in now

dedicated to topspindoctor, foxy and nadalesdios, next time keep it shut.

gjr
01-26-2011, 12:38 PM
Was at this match tonight. Wonderful stuff from Pics.

Pics came, he soared and he conquered.

Grats to Pics but it ends here.

Allez
01-26-2011, 12:39 PM
Perfect timing as usual. :yeah:

Just when Pics started hitting through the ball and throw Nadal of the court, injury strikes! If Nadal would get back into the match in the third set, the hamstring would be okay, no?

Do you honestly think Nadal would ask for an injury time out that early in a match involving Ferrer ? Dude get real. It's not like Pics was up 2 sets to love 5-0 when Nadal called for the trainer. It should be obvious that something wasn't quite right.

Julio
01-26-2011, 12:39 PM
I hope Nadal will never read any comment about him here. :o This guy is a champion. He will be back stronger.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:39 PM
You're making a bit of a sweeping statement about people who love the game here.

Agreed. My statement might be too broad but Nadal winning the 'Rafa slam' and pushing away with his power, the variety of ways in which tennis can be played and won making other greats of the game get lost in the shadows of time is ridiculous. Let Nadal bring variety in his game. Let him play tennis in all the ways tennis can be played. Not just one way. Then, there's a possibility of extending respect to Nadal the player, not just Nadal the man.

doomsday
01-26-2011, 12:40 PM
That doesn't matter. Rafa achieved more than Fed at this age and he has a lot more before him while Fed has no future in tennis:sad:

True but Rafa is also more injury prone just like we saw coples of hours ago.

gjr
01-26-2011, 12:40 PM
Oh and for the Rafa fans. Just be happy because Murray would of destroyed Rafa in the Semi.

:)

Hola Mr. SK
01-26-2011, 12:41 PM
rafa haters,celebrate while you can!:)
wonder where are those pig roasters...

vamos Ferrer,go and get the fkin title now!! :yeah:

tennis2tennis
01-26-2011, 12:42 PM
That doesn't matter. Rafa achieved more than Fed at this age and he has a lot more before him while Fed has no future in tennis:sad:

If I were you I'd stop talking...in fact repeat that statement when 29/ 30 year old rafa is number 2 in the world and defending a major whilst still reaching the semis of grandslams...:devil: the truth is Roger is well past his peak but still making tennis history the age agrument can work both ways genius!!

The Magician
01-26-2011, 12:42 PM
Btw I said before Nadull will be Wilander #2, USO 2010 will be his last slam. He simply doesn't have the consistency and game to be a long-term GS champion like Federer or Sampras. Maybe he can become a clown commentator like Wilander when he retires :haha:

nalbyfan
01-26-2011, 12:42 PM
Congrats Ferru. Happy he won and happy Armani model lost.
Great day anyway

Topspindoctor
01-26-2011, 12:43 PM
Btw I said before Nadull will be Wilander #2, USO 2010 will be his last slam. He simply doesn't have the consistency and game to be a long-term GS champion like Federer or Sampras. Maybe he can become a clown commentator like Wilander when he retires :haha:

You'll eat your words when he wins RG this year :wavey:

Chartreuse
01-26-2011, 12:45 PM
Btw I said before Nadull will be Wilander #2, USO 2010 will be his last slam.

Disagree.

Snowwy
01-26-2011, 12:45 PM
If I were you I'd stop talking...in fact repeat that statement when 29/ 30 year old rafa is number 2 in the world and defending a major whilst still reaching the semis of grandslams...:devil: the truth is Roger is well past his peak but still making tennis history the age agrument can work both ways genius!!

This is true. Roger would have never lost this match.

electronicmusic
01-26-2011, 12:45 PM
Let me just say this, anyone who couldn't clearly see Rafa was in pain, needs their head examined. The guy was in pain......how much? NONE of us know, because we weren't out there or next to him, to even know. We still don't know what the exact injury is or how severe it may or may not be. I think he just carried on, just for the sake of not retiring and making himself look bad. I will give him credit for continuing on.

Even if some of you don't like Rafa, the least you could do is show kind of concern, knowing the man is in pain. If you were in his place, would you want people cheering because you're hurt??? I don't think so. I will give credit where it's due. Ferrer did what he was supposed to do...execute his game plan. He played well and he deserved the win, without a shadow of a doubt, so I applaud him and hopes he plays well in the semis.

A lot of people on here are such pricks for the comments they're making. There are players I don't care for, but that doesn't mean I go and start cheering because they suffer injuries, and lose matches. If you wanted him to lose, that's on you, but it should never be through injury. That shows how cruel and heartless some of you really are, and I'm embarrassed to be on such a great site where you're even allowed to post in any thread.

I'm proud of Nadal, win or lose. So what he doesn't get the Rafa Slam. He's still a winner to me, regardless of what anyone thinks. Laver got what he wanted out of this, and so did all the anti-Nadal fans. I hope you're all happy now. At least I have the pleasure of knowing none of you will ever have as much class as Rafa or be anywhere near as successful as he is.


Congrats David!!! Get better Rafa. I wish you a safe recovery.

I'm not a Nadal supporter, but this is an excellent post.

Some members on MTF really need to get a brain.

The Magician
01-26-2011, 12:45 PM
You'll eat your words when he wins RG this year :wavey:

After todays loss you have a whole thread's worth of words to eat if anyone was mean enough to find them :wavey:

GasquetFan
01-26-2011, 12:46 PM
Why? He doesn't normally bring up injuries right after a loss does he? That usually comes later. Or in some cases doesn't come at all b/c the sycophant media makes enough excuses for him he doesn't need to say anything. I mean tonight on ESPN it sounded like someone had died and Patrick McEnroe was going to a funeral.

In the conference he was refusing to discuss the injury out of respect for David...

Larry_David
01-26-2011, 12:46 PM
On clay.. Murray is not good enough on clay. On HC it is different. Last HC meeting Murray spanked Ferrer 6-2, 6-2 at the YEC in 2010.

These courts may as well be clay though...

Castafiore
01-26-2011, 12:47 PM
Let Nadal bring variety in his game.
He does. :shrug:

Not following the classic tennis school when talking about style (because I can understand how some prefer shots that are aesthetically more pleasing) is not the same as lack of variety.

However, I don't think you're going to agree with me so let's leave it. :)

Andi-M
01-26-2011, 12:47 PM
Really odd match. Ferrer deserves ALOT of credit because he got out there and made his intentons clear from 1st game that he wasnt going to bend over. Before Rafa got injured Ferrer was the better player.

But Nadal was clearly hampered wterher it was the pain mental, physical fatigue I dont know but he was certainly not himself and seemed to be doing a Djokovic i.e Making sure the whole damn world knew he was injured!! But credit to him for not retiring and he will be back fine for the claycourt season.

There are some deeper isues here though Rafa needs to seriously look into his training regimes and tournament schedules he is overplaying and putting too much stress on his body, if he took better care of himself Fed's records would be a possibility if he dosent they wont be.

Chartreuse
01-26-2011, 12:47 PM
These courts may as well be clay though...

It is still HC.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:47 PM
Do you honestly think Nadal would ask for an injury time out that early in a match involving Ferrer ? Dude get real. It's not like Pics was up 2 sets to love 5-0 when Nadal called for the trainer. It should be obvious that something wasn't quite right.

Nadal wouldn't wait for that long. Its all about timing to make everyone convinced its real. Nadal's a greater tactician than anyone gives him credit for. To me, it seemed more like; 'Let everyone see just how injured I am so that they will talk about the real reason I lost.'
Sorry Nadal, not convinced.

One more thing, I can assure you, if Nadal would win the third set, he'd be bouncing and fist-pumping and perfect.

The Magician
01-26-2011, 12:49 PM
It is still HC.

It took another clay court player to beat Nadull :o

tennizen
01-26-2011, 12:50 PM
I thought Ferrer was the most dangerous opponent for Rafa in his half. But then I thought wawa would take Fed to 5 so I guess it balances out.

Nice job done. Hopefully Murray can handle Ferrer easier.

Topspindoctor
01-26-2011, 12:50 PM
After todays loss you have a whole thread's worth of words to eat if anyone was mean enough to find them :wavey:

Whatever. Can't wait to see you and your fellow Fedtards crying and moaning in a few months time when clay season rolls around.

Allez
01-26-2011, 12:51 PM
Nadal wouldn't wait for that long. Its all about timing to make everyone convinced its real. Nadal's a greater tactician than anyone gives him credit for. To me, it seemed more like; 'Let everyone see just how injured I am so that they will talk about the real reason I lost.'
Sorry Nadal, not convinced.

One more thing, I can assure you, if Nadal would win the third set, he'd be bouncing and fist-pumping and perfect.

Clearly you're having a lot of fun with this so your post doesn't require a serious response. why would Nadal think he'd lose the match at the beginning of the 1st set :shrug:

Salvy41
01-26-2011, 12:52 PM
No. Rafa has the career golden slam at a much younger age, he's much stronger physically and mentally than crying Fed, and will take what he wants. Fed is just a puny scavenger who has to wait all the time for others to get injured to win something. See RG, and he still doesn't have the olympic singles gold. Maybe somebody will have mercy on him, get injured and let him win it :sad:

You're looking worse and worse with each post. And what's with the constant ":sad:"? It's a little annoying. Stop trying to alleviate your woe by besmirching Federer and his achievements.

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:53 PM
He does. :shrug:

Not following the classic tennis school when talking about style (because I can understand how some prefer shots that are aesthetically more pleasing) is not the same as lack of variety.

However, I don't think you're going to agree with me so let's leave it. :)

No offence, but you're right. Where you see variety, I see maximization of a particular style of play, not inclusion of other styles or open-mindedness to adopt new styles, do things differently.

Another RogFan
01-26-2011, 12:54 PM
He does. :shrug:

Not following the classic tennis school when talking about style (because I can understand how some prefer shots that are aesthetically more pleasing) is not the same as lack of variety.

However, I don't think you're going to agree with me so let's leave it. :)

I dare to say this is to much even for diehard fan. Come on, Nadal is a great player but game variety is not even close to his game. Saying that after today's example is :confused:

Olorin
01-26-2011, 12:54 PM
Do you think it's too late for Rafa to dominate the wheelchair and quad matches ?

Yazoo.C
01-26-2011, 12:54 PM
Rafa :tears: :tears:

TheRafaelNadal
01-26-2011, 12:55 PM
Gutted, Nadal wasn't even at 30%. At times he was playing through the pain and made Ferrer look like a joke.

Blackbriar
01-26-2011, 12:55 PM
Bravo Daviv for keeping up till' the end. It's must be tough mentally to hold back the best player in world and winning in straight. :sad: for Rafa but he doesn't seem to be in best condition since the beginning of the year (virus of some kind).
I almost wish Ferrer would go higher, but, on the other hand, i really hope Murray can take this 1st major.

Pipsy
01-26-2011, 12:55 PM
sad for Rafa. You don't get too many opportunities to accomplish something like holding all 4 slams at once and it is a sham that it got taken away by injury, regardless of how well Pics might have played anyway.

However, while sorry for Nadal, I'm super-happy for Pics! Even though I'm a fan I struggled to see how he'd even get past Nieminen in the opening round. I think an AO SF is an accomplishment he is truly worthy of as a real workhorse of the game.

I'm just so happy my two favourite players are through to play each other.

But let there me a Murray vs Djokovic final please! A Pics-Roger final would be absolutely terrible to watch!

Nekromanta
01-26-2011, 12:56 PM
It's a little annoying. Stop trying to alleviate your woe by besmirching Federer and his achievements.

Hey man relax, you're supposed to celebrate. My words of wisdom are ruining the party or what??? :confused:

Roger the Dodger
01-26-2011, 12:58 PM
Clearly you're having a lot of fun with this so your post doesn't require a serious response. why would Nadal think he'd lose the match at the beginning of the 1st set :shrug:

To reemphasize what I'm saying, if Nadal would have been a couple of breaks down to Cilic the day before, he'd have pulled a hamstring. That's what I mean.

If Nadal does not suffer from excusitis which most posters call it here and his case is real, then he has a psychological problem that comes to front everytime he begins to lose to lesser players. It gets expressed as a fleeting physical problem - 'fleeting' because its over a couple of hours after he gets a good win in the same match or the next one.

bokehlicious
01-26-2011, 12:58 PM
Whatever. Can't wait to see you and your fellow Fedtards crying and moaning in a few months time when clay season rolls around.

:haha: don't make it look like as you never cared about the "Rafa slam"... Rafa has nothing to prove on clay anymore, he could win the next 10 FOs, as long as he remains average off clay, he'll never be GOAT :shrug: :hug:

Chartreuse
01-26-2011, 01:00 PM
A Pics-Roger final would be absolutely terrible to watch!


Would be the typical AO final, actually. Roger vs a dark horse.