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Does anybody come back from a 5 - 1 deficit?

samjones
01-21-2011, 01:54 AM
Is it me, or does nobody ever overcome a 4 game deficit to win a set? I mean _never_

I ask because I don't recall seeing anyone ever do it. Not even if doing so would decide the match. Maybe my memory isn't that great.

Hewitt =Legend
01-21-2011, 01:57 AM
Fed vs Tsonga in the Canadian masters.... one of Fed's biggest chokes

Sri
01-21-2011, 02:02 AM
Tsongga did it to Fed last year (or was it 2009?). I'm sure it has been done.

mystic ice cube
01-21-2011, 02:02 AM
are you retarded?
Relax, he's just asking a question. Give him a break.

I've seen it happen before a couple of times. One springs to mind when Fed was losing against some outside 50 ranked player (forget his name) in some shitty event, I don't think Fed was really trying. This is about two years back maybe. Anyway, the guy got cocky and tried a tweener mid-way through the set at 5-1 to him. Federer looked incensed because he must of thought the guy was making fun of him. He stormed back and won the set & match.

finishingmove
01-21-2011, 02:07 AM
nadal against federer
a lot of guys vs gasquet

out_here_grindin
01-21-2011, 02:08 AM
what about the epic 5-0 to 5-7 meltdown? I have only seen that once and it was on my high school team during an intrasquad challenge match.

samjones
01-21-2011, 02:08 AM
Relax, he's just asking a question. Give him a break.

I've seen it happen before a couple of times. One springs to mind when Fed was losing against some outside 50 ranked player (forget his name) in some shitty event, I don't think Fed was really trying. This is about two years back maybe. Anyway, the guy got cocky and tried a tweener mid-way through the set at 5-1 to him. Federer looked incensed because he must of thought the guy was making fun of him. He stormed back and won the set & match.

True enough - it was merely a question that came to mind because Andy Roddick was down 5-1 on my DVR and he won the next game to make it 5-2. I didn't know if he had a chance or not (looks like he didn't). I couldn't think of any time I had ever seen anyone, male or female overcome a 4 game deficit to win.

I was hoping people would share stories like you just did. Thanks for that. Maybe some people feel that they have license to flame. You might not have guessed this, but I can write a pretty hot load myself when the mood takes me. If the moderators don't really care what people say to each other up here then maybe I'll just reveal what I really think about some of y'all.

jmf07
01-21-2011, 02:49 AM
what about the epic 5-0 to 5-7 meltdown? I have only seen that once and it was on my high school team during an intrasquad challenge match.

Lammer did that in qualies last week

coonster14
01-21-2011, 03:33 AM
Apart from the Roger vs Tsonga 2009 Montreal QF (wow what was that I still wonder today :o)

Remember Rafa doing that in Hamburg 2008 final against Roger, Roger was up 5-1 in the 1st set, then lost the 1st set 7-5 in the end, that was nuts.

Sri
01-21-2011, 04:01 AM
Apart from the Roger vs Tsonga 2009 Montreal QF (wow what was that I still wonder today :o)

Remember Rafa doing that in Hamburg 2008 final against Roger, Roger was up 5-1 in the 1st set, then lost the 1st set 7-5 in the end, that was nuts.
I remember that. There was considerable time wasting and a medical break involved in that. :lol:

aloniv
01-21-2011, 04:11 AM
Malivai Washington won the final set against Todd Martin at Wimbledon '96 , despite being down 1-5.

River
01-21-2011, 04:18 AM
My first thought when I read the title was Fed/Tsonga

Everyone who watched with me were just dumbfounded. Even now I can't believe he threw that match away.

KarlyM
01-21-2011, 04:18 AM
Malivai Washington won the final set against Todd Martin at Wimbledon '96 , despite being down 1-5. Yup. I believe Martin served for the match at 5-1 and 5-3 and lost 8-10.

samanosuke
01-21-2011, 04:24 AM
Ljubicic was leading against Ferreira 2-0 and 5-1 in the third and lost the match

tests
01-21-2011, 05:04 AM
I remember that. There was considerable time wasting and a medical break involved in that. :lol:

not surprisingly, a lot of fed/nadal matches are like. Fed comes out guns ablazing, everyone thinking that nadal has no chance to win, then suddenly, an uber choke job by federer.


That choke vs tsonga was also pitiful. The GOAT needs to stop checking out mentally

Doggy
01-21-2011, 07:44 AM
Murray def Starace from 6-3 2-6 *1-5 down to 6-3 2-6 7-5 6-4 in 2nd rd French Open 2009!!

I dunno why I remember that out of all matches, but i remember not liking murray that day and wanted starace to pull of the upset, so I was weired out that he could not close the 3rd set, bitch

Voo de Mar
01-21-2011, 07:53 AM
In the Open era a player:
- won a match being 2-sets-to-0 down and 0:5 in the 3rd set
- won a match being 2-sets-to-1 down and 0:5 in the 4th set
- won a match being 0:5 in the 5th set

Every possible configuration has happened :wavey:

156mphserve
01-21-2011, 07:59 AM
In the Open era a player:
- won a match being 2-sets-to-0 down and 0:5 in the 3rd set
- won a match being 2-sets-to-1 down and 0:5 in the 4th set
- won a match being 0:5 in the 5th set

Every possible configuration has happened :wavey:

what about 2-0 5-0 *40-0 down and came back?

Norrage
01-21-2011, 08:13 AM
In WTA this happens every match :P

Voo de Mar
01-21-2011, 08:33 AM
what about 2-0 5-0 *40-0 down and came back?

I don't know such a case :( in contrary to 0:5* (0-40) in a happy turn around in the 5th set (it happened in the pre-Open era).

dodo
01-21-2011, 09:11 AM
Relax, he's just asking a question. Give him a break.

I've seen it happen before a couple of times. One springs to mind when Fed was losing against some outside 50 ranked player (forget his name) in some shitty event, I don't think Fed was really trying. This is about two years back maybe. Anyway, the guy got cocky and tried a tweener mid-way through the set at 5-1 to him. Federer looked incensed because he must of thought the guy was making fun of him. He stormed back and won the set & match.

i believe that was ramirez-hidalgo in estoril. fed was down double break in the decider and RRH went for some retarded unnecessary trickshot. there was a look of shock on fed's face and it was serious-time after that.

philosophicalarf
01-21-2011, 09:17 AM
Murray did this at Monte Carlo 2009, 0-5 to 5-5, then won the tb. Was one of the Italian mugs.

samanosuke
01-21-2011, 09:28 AM
In the Open era a player:
- won a match being 2-sets-to-0 down and 0:5 in the 3rd set
- won a match being 2-sets-to-1 down and 0:5 in the 4th set
- won a match being 0:5 in the 5th set

Every possible configuration has happened :wavey:

Voo, maybe I am wrong but Did Ramirez Hidalgo lead against Ancic 5-0 in the third in Rome 2006 and against Federer in MC next year and lost both times ?

adingh
01-21-2011, 09:29 AM
i believe that was ramirez-hidalgo in estoril. fed was down double break in the decider and RRH went for some retarded unnecessary trickshot. there was a look of shock on fed's face and it was serious-time after that. It was Monte-Carlo 2008 :)

17/2008 ATP Monte-Carlo (MON) Clay Roger Federer Ruben Ramirez-Hidalgo 6-1 3-6 7-6(1)

Federer was 1-5 down and still won the game :)

RRH between leg shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN_JIupetTg&feature=related

Voo de Mar
01-21-2011, 09:40 AM
Voo, maybe I am wrong but Did Ramirez Hidalgo lead against Ancic 5-0 in the third in Rome 2006 and against Federer in MC next year and lost both times ?

Ancic came back from 1:5* (0-30) in the 3rd set. RRH choke against Federer, like adingh said: 5:1 in the third. The Spaniard hadn't m.p. against Fed, against Ancic had 3 m.p. :)

Arhaych
01-21-2011, 10:18 AM
Murray did this at Monte Carlo 2009, 0-5 to 5-5, then won the tb. Was one of the Italian mugs.

Fabio Fognini.

One of the strangest sets of tennis I've ever watched.

samanosuke
01-21-2011, 10:48 AM
Ancic came back from 1:5* (0-30) in the 3rd set. RRH choke against Federer, like adingh said: 5:1 in the third. The Spaniard hadn't m.p. against Fed, against Ancic had 3 m.p. :)

Thnx

Hidalgo is winner of this thread for now

Jaz
01-21-2011, 10:57 AM
Chokers

leng jai
01-21-2011, 10:57 AM
Haas led 5-0 against Hewitt and lost the set 5-7 and then did a similar thing in the next set. Its been done plenty of times.

Ori
01-21-2011, 11:07 AM
Acasuso choked against Federer at the french in 2009 at the 3rd set if I remember correctly.

Ibracadabra
01-21-2011, 11:20 AM
Clijsters was 5-0 up last week against na li and lost the set.

samanosuke
01-21-2011, 11:35 AM
Clijsters was 5-0 up last week against na li and lost the set.

WTA doesn't count . In 4/5 matches you have situations like that

kandygram
01-21-2011, 11:38 AM
Rafa is a habitual offender here. Cincinnati 2009 down 1-5 vs. Mathieu 1st set. I think Rafa was down 1-4 AO 2008 to PHM before eventually getting the 1st set.

Shirogane
01-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Agassi was leading Haas 5 games to 1, can't remember where or when ( 2005 I think )...

solowyn
01-21-2011, 12:12 PM
Agassi was leading Haas 5 games to 1, can't remember where or when ( 2005 I think )...
Farmers Classic 04 :yeah: Crazy match, Haas came back from 5-1 in the first to win in the TB. Then served for the match at 5*-4 in the second, but failed. Also served for the match in the 2nd set TB but double faulted :lol: Won in 3 eventually.

scher
01-21-2011, 12:14 PM
In Umag 2009, Roitman was leading 5-0 in the first set against Gil, and the portuguese won it 7-5.

willoughby
01-21-2011, 01:02 PM
if I remember correctly, Acasuso led 2-1 and 5-1 in the 4th set against Ferrer in 2006 Stuttgart final but eventually he lost in five.

Topspindoctor
01-21-2011, 01:45 PM
WTA doesn't count . In 4/5 matches you have situations like that

This. As much as I like Kim, that performance was disgusting.

mystic ice cube
01-21-2011, 01:48 PM
i believe that was ramirez-hidalgo in estoril. fed was down double break in the decider and RRH went for some retarded unnecessary trickshot. there was a look of shock on fed's face and it was serious-time after that.
Yes that was him. :)

luie
01-21-2011, 01:52 PM
I believe fed lead nadull 5-1 in MC & lost it 7-5 in 2008.
That match he led in both sets & lost in straight sets.

n8
01-21-2011, 02:14 PM
Read this and be amazed!
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/australianopen/2996815/Australian-Open-Haas-takes-Hewitt-to-the-edge.html

In short, Australian Open R1 2001:
1st set - Haas up 5-0, Hewitt wins 7-5
2nd set - Haas up 4-1, Hewitt wins 7-6
3rd set - Haas up 4-2, Hewitt wins 6-4.

Hewitt was ranked 7th and Haas 20th at the time.

Voo de Mar
01-21-2011, 02:16 PM
^ One of the best straight sets win in a major I've ever seen :)

n8
01-21-2011, 02:19 PM
LOL me too. It was so unreal but by the third set I almost expected it.

oranges
01-21-2011, 02:22 PM
^ One of the best straight sets win in a major I've ever seen :)

Depends on the viewpoint, I'm not too fond of it ;)

romaine
01-21-2011, 02:43 PM
what about 2-0 5-0 *40-0 down and came back?

That was Chanda Rubin in Wimbledon approx. 10 or more ago.

Or was it Rubin who won it and Novotna who lost...? Not sure now :)

Voo de Mar
01-21-2011, 02:46 PM
That was Chanda Rubin in Wimbledon approx. 10 or more ago.

Or was it Rubin who won it and Novotna who lost...? Not sure now :)

2-0, 5:0 is impossible in women's tennis :lol: In the match which you mentioned, Novotna led 5:0 (40-0) in the 3rd set and lost 6-7, 6-4, 6-8 (Roland Garros 1995) :wavey:

FormerRafaFan
01-21-2011, 07:47 PM
what about the epic 5-0 to 5-7 meltdown? I have only seen that once and it was on my high school team during an intrasquad challenge match.

I know Verdasco once blew 5-1 or 5-2 40-0 against Montañes. Montañes won the set 5-7:o

Certinfy
01-21-2011, 07:51 PM
I know Verdasco once blew 5-1 or 5-2 40-0 against Montañes. Montañes won the set 5-7:o
Montanes won the set 7-6 and Verdasco had 3 match points but it definitely wasn't when 40-0 up, if I remember correct he had 40-30 and 2 advantages, all saved with winners from Montanes.

abraxas21
01-21-2011, 07:58 PM
Read this and be amazed!
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/australianopen/2996815/Australian-Open-Haas-takes-Hewitt-to-the-edge.html

In short, Australian Open R1 2001:
1st set - Haas up 5-0, Hewitt wins 7-5
2nd set - Haas up 4-1, Hewitt wins 7-6
3rd set - Haas up 4-2, Hewitt wins 6-4.

Hewitt was ranked 7th and Haas 20th at the time.

worst choke i've ever heard of. not even gasquet can choke that badly.

Dyraise
01-21-2011, 08:01 PM
Guillermo Cañas, Davis Cup 1999 vs Maurice Ruah :devil:

scoobs
01-21-2011, 08:06 PM
I think Nadal has done this to Federer at least once - I want to say Monte Carlo in the final a couple of years ago...

Nope, the one I'm thinking off Federer led 5-7 *4-1 30-30 and then was broken.

scoobs
01-21-2011, 08:10 PM
I also think Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo did this to Safin in Rome 2006 - I think RRH was 06 15 down and went on to win 06 76 76

EDIT - nope, I checked, he got to 06 14 but RRH won the next game.

I'm not good at this game :)

philosophicalarf
01-21-2011, 08:17 PM
In Umag 2009, Roitman was leading 5-0 in the first set against Gil, and the portuguese won it 7-5.

Interesting inplay betting on that one, to put it mildly. Something not uncommon in Roitman matches......

calvinhobbes
01-21-2011, 08:44 PM
I think Nadal has done this to Federer at least once - I want to say Monte Carlo in the final a couple of years ago...
Curiously enough, Roger´s defeats to Tsonga and Nadal had in common faked injuries by both winners. Tsonga faked a terminal arm-injury, and put such a beggar-face that even I considered myself the possibility of going there to do something for this poor guy. Nadal´s injury was of a similar nature. Both were attended while Roger waited and lost his impetu falling in an anti-climactic attitude. This makes me think that those Federer losses have nothing to do with mental strength, but with a tricky change of scenario. This happens to almost all human beings. If you are having a splendid dinner and somebody shows you a picture of the famelic children of Biafra, you lose all interest in tennis or whatever..... .

KrisJB
01-21-2011, 09:36 PM
At US Open 1993, Jamie Morgan led 5-0 in the final set of the 4th round against Wally Masur and lost 5-7.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
01-22-2011, 01:18 AM
Nadal is the toghest bastard to put away, what amazing determination

on clay i dont think i've ever seen nadal give up

on hard against del potro.... yeah maybe a bit, he simply got out gunned... shit happens

but on clay, there is no equal to his forehand and he is deadly

samjones
01-22-2011, 01:28 AM
Nadal is the toghest bastard to put away, what amazing determination

I think some of that determination has faded since his 2009 injury. He's still a great player, don't get me wrong, but I don't think that he has the same go-for-every-point mentality that he once had. Maybe it's hard to tell because he was whomping everyone so badly all year, but I didn't really get the feeling he cared too much about the Year-end Finals. Yeah, he would have taken the win if would have been easy, but it wasn't, so....

green25814
01-22-2011, 01:29 AM
Nadal is the toghest bastard to put away, what amazing determination

on clay i dont think i've ever seen nadal give up

on hard against del potro.... yeah maybe a bit, he simply got out gunned... shit happens

but on clay, there is no equal to his forehand and he is deadly

Thankyou for the information

This Nadal seems like quite a good player it seems

Good prospect

samjones
01-22-2011, 01:35 AM
This Nadal seems like quite a good player it seems

One things for sure, this Roddick kid ain't coming back from no 4 games-down. Eff that, he'll try to do better next set. If this happens to be the deciding set start pointing a finger. A line judge will do nicely to take the blame.

LocoPorElTenis
01-22-2011, 01:36 AM
The year Gaudio won RG, he came back from either 0-5 or 1-5 in the second set of the SF against Nalbandián (he won in 3)

Say Hey Kid
01-22-2011, 01:37 AM
Happens quite a bit, especially if you spend your time tracking alot of challenger matches.

Bobby Reynolds almost blew a 5-0 *40-0 to Bjorn Phau in a challenger match last year. However, he came back and won the tiebreak that set...