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WWW Australian Open R3: Nadal vs Tomic

Dyraise
01-20-2011, 04:46 AM
Who will win?

Topspindoctor
01-20-2011, 04:47 AM
Nadal in 3. 6-4 6-4 6-2.

Dmitry Verdasco
01-20-2011, 04:49 AM
Can't wait for this. RIP HIS FUCKING HEAD OFF RAFA!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111 11111111111111111111111111111111111111:cool:

Voo de Mar
01-20-2011, 04:50 AM
Nadal 6-1, 7-6, 6-2.

finishingmove
01-20-2011, 04:52 AM
spanish killer tomic, obviously

can't see anything else happening

Pirata.
01-20-2011, 04:54 AM
Rafa 6-4, 6-7(5), 6-4, 7-5

hyperren
01-20-2011, 04:56 AM
Nadal. I was thinking about the home crowd pulling for their boy, but that didn't seem to help Lleyton at all, so...

This is bound to be a night match at RLA.

Manequin75
01-20-2011, 05:00 AM
yeah Night match at Rod laver - rafa is due to play under lights and Tomic is the local boy. Hopefully it turns out to be more competitive with Rafa tested a little bit.

TMJordan
01-20-2011, 05:02 AM
Tomic win

coonster14
01-20-2011, 05:04 AM
Pretty sure this will be the night match on Saturday, finally, Rafa gets to play under the lights on RLA.

Hoping for Tomic to make it a bit competitive. Thank you Tomic for taking out that classless mug F.Lopez. :yeah:

The Freak
01-20-2011, 05:05 AM
Nadal will kick the shit out of him. 6-1, 6-3, 6-2.

nadal_slam_king
01-20-2011, 05:11 AM
This is a replay of 1995 AO between Rafter and Agassi, supreme embarrassment for the green Aussie. He doesn't have the wheels to win rallies, I think a bagel or more is coming.

rafa_maniac
01-20-2011, 05:13 AM
Tomic will be inspired by the occasion and crowd to put up a fight for one set, but go down 7-5 6-2 6-1

Arkulari
01-20-2011, 05:17 AM
Rafa will rip him a new one, something like 6-1 6-3 6-2

Hewitt =Legend
01-20-2011, 05:22 AM
If Tomic plays well, he should clinch this.

Manequin75
01-20-2011, 05:27 AM
Rafa will rip him a new one, something like 6-1 6-3 6-2

rip him a new one? you mean anal fistula? ;)

Manequin75
01-20-2011, 05:28 AM
If Tomic plays well, he should clinch this.

he aint clinching anything. Nobody in the history of tennis ever has beaten Feli lopez and Rafael Nadal back to back EVER. ;)

careergrandslam
01-20-2011, 05:30 AM
tomic to cause the boilover.

tomic in 4.

Corey Feldman
01-20-2011, 05:32 AM
WWW threads for Nadal when he's playing some junior? wow

nadal_slam_king
01-20-2011, 05:33 AM
Tomic vs Rafa will end up being the premier rivalry on tour. Just as 1995 Agassi vs Rafter AO was a slaughterhouse but became a brilliant rivalry :yeah:

Voo de Mar
01-20-2011, 05:38 AM
Tomic vs Rafa will end up being the premier rivalry on tour. Just as 1995 Agassi vs Rafter AO was a slaughterhouse but became a brilliant rivalry :yeah:

Agassi and Rafter met for the first time during Wimbledon 1993.

Corey Feldman
01-20-2011, 05:40 AM
Tomic vs Rafa will end up being the premier rivalry on tour. keep smoking that crack

nadal_slam_king
01-20-2011, 06:05 AM
Agassi and Rafter met for the first time during Wimbledon 1993.

True, indeed. Really only recall the 1995 AO, 1997 USO, 2001 AO and the 2 Wimbledon SFs. A very balanced rivalry.

Manequin75
01-20-2011, 06:08 AM
this is what nadal said when he was asked today if he was nervous about playing tomic? *must watch* LOL

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgncx1_a-trip-to-the-aquarium_sport#from=embed

_Chaz
01-20-2011, 06:13 AM
Nadal in 3. Would be really suprised if something else will happen.

Damn hard draw for Rafa. He had to beat 3 non-top 90 players in the 1st week. At least he has to play one of Cilic / Stepanek / Isner in next round. Will be the 1st test for him.

vn01
01-20-2011, 06:15 AM
Rafa in 3

GSMnadal
01-20-2011, 06:16 AM
this is what nadal said when he was asked today if he was nervous about playing tomic? *must watch* LOL

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgncx1_a-trip-to-the-aquarium_sport#from=embed


Haha, that's great. Tell that against Tomic, he's probably shitting his pants already :lol:

thegreendestiny
01-20-2011, 06:17 AM
Show some mercy your highness. :worship:

Voo de Mar
01-20-2011, 06:18 AM
this is what nadal said when he was asked today if he was nervous about playing tomic? *must watch* LOL

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgncx1_a-trip-to-the-aquarium_sport#from=embed

:lol:

nadal_slam_king
01-20-2011, 06:21 AM
this is what nadal said when he was asked today if he was nervous about playing tomic? *must watch* LOL

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgncx1_a-trip-to-the-aquarium_sport#from=embed

Best shoulder shrugger on tour :yeah:

shiaben
01-20-2011, 06:37 AM
Same story, different player......6-3 6-3 6-3 Rafito coming out on top.

henke007
01-20-2011, 06:38 AM
:scared::zzz:

green25814
01-20-2011, 07:00 AM
Tomic will be inspired by the occasion and crowd to put up a fight for one set, but go down 7-5 6-2 6-1

Agreed, I think the score will be something like this.

I'd be impressed with Tomic if he managed to make more than one set competitive.

And yeah, Rafa's draw so far is a total joke. From toothless vets to toothless rooks.

Gladiator
01-20-2011, 07:08 AM
The poll should be, how many games tomic ganna win ?

Huntress555
01-20-2011, 08:14 AM
Tomic in 4 :p

No, Rafa should win this pretty easily in 3. Just hope Tomic can make the first set competitive for abit.. maybe, hopefully.

careergrandslam
01-20-2011, 08:23 AM
all u are underestimating tomic, he caused huge problems for cilic last year.
went 5 sets and should have won.

tomic is extremely dangerous, he can change pace like murray and confuse and frustrate opponents.

this will be a very close match.

Mimi
01-20-2011, 08:36 AM
If Nadal plays at at least 60% of his best, he'll win 62 64 61. However, I'd love it if some miracle could occur & Tomic could knock Nadal out of the tournament. Would make things easier for Federer.

my dear friend, roger does not need Tomic to knock out rafa, he can do it himself;)

Shade
01-20-2011, 08:38 AM
Rafa, but in three TIGHT sets.

Auscon
01-20-2011, 08:51 AM
If Rafa is on song, I think Tomic will do well to get 3 games in a set. Rafa will have him running so wide he'll think he's just another spectator in some good seats.

Nothing but good things can come for him with this match, that lack of pressure served him brilliantly against Cilic....but this ain't Cilic.

iriraz
01-20-2011, 08:51 AM
Tomic might frustrate players making them hit lots of errors but it certainly won`t work against Nadal.It`s more likely Tomic will be frustrated by Nadal hitting every midcourt ball for a winner.If Nadal would start slow then it might be one competitive set but overall i don`t think it would change the outcome of this match Nadal winning it easily

n3gative
01-20-2011, 09:05 AM
6-4, 6-7, 7-5, 6-0 for Rafa

samanosuke
01-20-2011, 09:07 AM
Oh C'mon . Tomic is an ideal opponent for Rafa . Something like 4,1,1

djb84xi
01-20-2011, 09:13 AM
This should be an interesting match. Tomic has done well to get to the 3rd round, but make no mistake about it, this is where it ends. He's got a hell of a task in trying to take down Rafa, but experience will win out in this one, and I hope Tomic learns from it. Hopefully he won't get beat down like Nadal's last opponent Ryan Sweeting.

Nadull_tard
01-20-2011, 09:19 AM
It will be much closer than any of blind tards expect. Finally someone who aspires to be called a tennis player.

Nekromanta
01-20-2011, 11:01 AM
Rafa will own Tomic:bounce:

Puschkin
01-20-2011, 11:03 AM
Nadal and it will be a beat-down.

ossie
01-20-2011, 11:08 AM
6 games for mugic

Sophocles
01-20-2011, 11:56 AM
"Weapons" isn't the first word you associate with Tomic. Easy 3-setter for Nadal.

paseo
01-20-2011, 12:00 PM
Nadal will bulldoze Tomic.

Chartreuse
01-20-2011, 12:04 PM
Tomic doesn't like night matches.

tealeaves
01-20-2011, 12:05 PM
Nadal 60 60 60

ShotmaKer
01-20-2011, 12:13 PM
this is what nadal said when he was asked today if he was nervous about playing tomic? *must watch* LOL

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgncx1_a-trip-to-the-aquarium_sport#from=embed

:rolls:

Jaz
01-20-2011, 12:25 PM
Nadal in 3, there will probably be 1 tight set though.

Nidhogg
01-20-2011, 12:28 PM
Tomic could have been a decent player if he had come about in the 80's or 90's. On this surface Nadal will eat him alive.

Seriously, a buttload of WTA players hits the ball bigger than Bernie. If he gets on the board with a game he has done well. Might as well put Radwanska out there.

ShotmaKer
01-20-2011, 12:39 PM
6"4 pusher will not know what hits him.

Monteque
01-20-2011, 12:44 PM
nadal will win, tomics too young

foul_dwimmerlaik
01-20-2011, 03:21 PM
They will be scrapping Tomic off the court after Nadal is done with him.

Nole fan
01-20-2011, 03:26 PM
Do we even need a poll for that? It's pretty obvious.

Sonja1989
01-20-2011, 03:28 PM
Of course Rafa in 3.

rofe
01-20-2011, 03:29 PM
Five pages for another blowout? :zzz:

rafaholic
01-20-2011, 03:40 PM
useless poll...it would be much better if u put number of Tomic's winnig games

Sham Kay
01-20-2011, 03:45 PM
Night match? Might be an issue. When is Bernard's curfew?

Well Tomic and his movement will be exposed here due to Rafa's angles. This could well be a thrashing unfortunately.

hicdick
01-20-2011, 03:52 PM
nadal 6-3, 6-0, 6-4

fast_clay
01-20-2011, 03:56 PM
in two years time tomic will be mugboar's nemesis...flat simon like screwy forehand down the line + world class backhand is pretty much all you need to take down a champ in this limited era... Tomic will lose, but he'll gain more out of it than The Colossal Wedgie would care to realise...

Start da Game
01-20-2011, 04:09 PM
once again it has come down to the greatest fighter in the history of tennis to put an end to another bandwagon........

he put an end to murray bandwagon in wimbledon twice and now will do the same to tomickey mouse........

this is how the match will progress,

tomickey will feed nadal a lot of balls just like simon in 2009........nadal will play very intelligently and out-maneuver this aussie pusher, exactly what he did to simon in AO 2009........

luie
01-20-2011, 04:46 PM
in two years time tomic will be mugboar's nemesis...flat simon like screwy forehand down the line + world class backhand is pretty much all you need to take down a champ in this limited era... Tomic will lose, but he'll gain more out of it than The Colossal Wedgie would care to realise...
Unfortunately you speak the truth :o
However tomic needs to improve his movement for it to become a reality.

Blackbriar
01-20-2011, 05:11 PM
bye bye Tomic, 8 games.

Certinfy
01-20-2011, 05:12 PM
This might be the only time I ever root for Tomic.

abraxas21
01-20-2011, 05:19 PM
tomic to cause the boilover.

tomic in 4.

lol is there any WWW thread in which you don't predict rafa is gonna lose?

stop being so supertitious. jinxes dont work!

abraxas21
01-20-2011, 05:20 PM
it's funny that the highest ranked opponent nadull has got thus far has been marcos daniel, ranked 96th, who happenened to be injured

Modetopia
01-20-2011, 05:42 PM
I smell a bagel... hammer time.:devil:

Sophocles
01-20-2011, 06:21 PM
This might be the only time I ever root for Tomic.

+1.

Sapeod
01-20-2011, 06:34 PM
Tomic should win if he plays his best.
Nadull has played two totally rubbish players, and Tomic seems to be playing amazingly well.
Hopefully, he'll beat him.

mystic ice cube
01-20-2011, 07:01 PM
I hope Tomic makes it a contest, but I can only see it with Nadal in 3.

tribalfusion
01-20-2011, 07:54 PM
Tomic should win if he plays his best.
Nadull has played two totally rubbish players ...

What is the logic by which Tomic should win if he plays his best exactly?

Out of curiosity, how would you rate Murray's opponents?

Skyward
01-20-2011, 07:59 PM
I hope 26 people are just kidding...

Roger the Dodger
01-20-2011, 08:07 PM
I enjoyed what I saw of Tomic against Lopez (who was really not interested being there). He's not as bad as many suggest here. A creative pusher like Murray.

Nadal in straights.

Nole fan
01-20-2011, 08:14 PM
http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2011/01/oz-notebook-mythic-edition.html

Bernard Tomic plays today, and a nation awaits. The kid is nobody’s favorite in the Aussie tennis world, and the coaches here aren’t afraid to say it. Here’s Roger Rasheed on Tomic:

“Some people say he’s Top 20. I can’t see it. It doesn’t ring a bell in my mind. Top 30, maybe.”He describes Tomic’s style as “junk tennis” and that he’ll “get found out pretty quick” by the pros. :spit:

Everko
01-20-2011, 08:14 PM
all this hype from the Australian media will just make Nadal come out in Spartan mode. Tomic wins 5 games if he is lucky

Roger the Dodger
01-20-2011, 08:15 PM
Junk Tennis. :rolls:

Nole fan
01-20-2011, 08:21 PM
http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2011/01/playing-inside-out-.html

Playing inside out
By Steve Tignor

Here’s a rally to consider. Feliciano Lopez cracks a forehand as hard as he can. Bernard Tomic, 18-year-old Australian mystery talent, casually picks it up off the Plexicushion on a short hop and floats it back. Lopez hits the same shot again, this time harder and more precisely placed toward the corner. Tomic lopes to his right and short-hops it back again. The ball seems to slow down as he swings. This time Lopez chips a backhand and comes to the net. Tomic lopes to his left and caresses a backhand pass crosscourt, past Lopez and an inch inside the sideline.

I’m sitting next to my friend Chris Clarey of the Herald-Tribune. This is the type of point we've come out to Hisense Arena this afternoon to see. “It’s the Mecir thing,” Chris says, referring to Czechoslovakia’s Miloslav Mecir, a famously stylish and original finesse player of the 1980s. “It’s like catnip for tennis writers.”

Bernard Tomic is tennis-writer’s darling. The term, if it were a real term and not one I just made up here, would refer to a player who brings something different to the court, who either elevates it with style or turns it inside out with originality. You would think, in an individual sport with so many varying and strong personalities, that these types of people would pop up every few months—every player has their own way of playing, after all. But they don’t come around all that often. Whether it was the serve-and-volley Big Game of the 1960s, or the power baseline game today, it’s hard to buck the tried and true, to play a game that hasn’t already been proven to work.

“I hit a lot of funky shots,” Tomic admits. “I like to make people miss.” It’s been that way since he started playing. The success he had with his funky game encouraged him to keep at it rather than switch to something more conventional. “I can hit hard,” he says, “but it’s not my game to hit hard.”

Tomic’s game, as Clarey noted, is reminiscent of Mecir’s. It’s also reminiscent of another tennis-writer’s darling and descendent of the bearded Czech maestro, Andy Murray. All three have great feel, hit their two-handed backhands with a deceptively soft and smooth swing, change speeds deftly, and like to work the ball around rather than end points from the middle of the court with their forehands.

But Tomic’s game is weirder than Murray’s. It’s almost perverse. He spends the majority of his time soft-balling, seemingly because that’s just what he enjoys doing. When he gets a forehand that he can drill, he might cup a short crosscourt slice instead. The shot doesn’t penetrate, and he ends up ceding ground back to his opponent, but it does do two things to his opponent. It keeps him guessing, and, if Tomic goes on to win the point, it irritates the hell out of him. After losing a point in which Tomic hit this shot today, Lopez gave the kid a sarcastic thumb’s up. “Nice work, you little so and so.”

It was nice work for Tomic today, who won in straight sets to reach his first Grand Slam third round and a Saturday night date with Rafael Nadal in Rod Laver Arena. Tomic not only annoyed Lopez, he played the big points better as well. He saved some of his best stuff for the tiebreakers; on set point in the first set, he unleashed the hardest backhand he had hit so far that afternoon. When he got down 0-3 in the second set, it looked for a second like Tomic might quit and hand that set over. He didn’t.

It’s fun, as a tennis-writer or spectator, to watch Tomic think. He never does exactly what you expect, and when he does, that’s even more surprising. He uses very little backswing and hits with his back straight up and down, both Mecir-esque qualities. His serve might be the funkiest shot of all. He hits it the way you might have taught a beginner to hit a serve in 1975, raising both arms straight up together. It’s a measure of Tomic’s timing that he can use this rudimentary motion to make the ball go 120 m.p.h.

The question is, and the question that Australian tennis has been asking for about five years now, is whether this style is more than just style. Can it do more than draw the aficionados? Can Tomic win?

As I said earlier, Roger Rasheed, Gael Monfils’ coach, doesn’t think funkiness will get it done. And sometimes Tomic’s off-speed stuff serves no purpose at all. He seems happy to hit a surprising shot, like a slice forehand, for its own sake, or rally with no discernible purpose. Tomic is very good at playing within himself, but he can cross into cute territory. The best touch players have always coupled that touch with something else: John McEnroe had his serve, Murray has his speed and his return. Tomic, whether he likes it or not, will have to compromise and hit the ball hard more than once per set. He already can do it if he wants.

Tomic maintains that there’s a method behind his game as it stands now. “The way I play, I catch a lot of guys out with not a lot of power,” Tomic says. “My strengths are, you know, I can find players' weaknesses really quickly. That’s what I’ve always been good at when I was young.”

Tomic has been a figure of controversy for years in Australia. He has a stage dad who has kept him out of competition for unexplained reasons, and he’s occasionally come across as an egomaniac in the making—as in when he reportedly refused to practice with Lleyton Hewitt because Hewitt “wasn’t good enough” (still love to imagine Rusty’s reaction when he heard that). Today you wouldn’t have known it. The fans were behind Tomic all the way, and during his press conference he appeared as fresh-faced as you would expect an 18-year-old to be after a big win at home.

Tomic still has the adolescent habit of stopping sentences early, right when the thought is done, and at the point where an adult would add a finishing touch (Sorry, I can’t explain it better; you’d know what I mean if you saw it.) But he was at his most open when he was asked about his thoughts on his next match. against Nadal.

Tomic said, “I think I’ll settle down in a day or two.”

“Is it excitement, or nervousness?”

A smile of recognition spread across Tomic’s face, as if he were realizing something for the first time. “It’s excitement, that what it is!”

Then the adolescent diffidence set back in. “He won't like my game. It’s an opportunity I’m going to take . . . I think.”

Tomic was then asked, since he says he's so good at finding players’ flaws, which one he would be looking for in Nadal.

He thought for a second. Then he sat back and laughed.

Sapeod
01-20-2011, 08:21 PM
What is the logic by which Tomic should win if he plays his best exactly?

Out of curiosity, how would you rate Murray's opponents?
Tomic has played very well, Nadull has hardly played because his opponents have been so crap. Tomic could surprise him. Probably not though, he'll probably play crap and Nadull will once again thrash a crap opponent by doing nothing.

Beck >>>>>>>> Daniel.
Marchenko >>>>>>> Sweeting.
Garcia-Lopez >>>>>> Tomic.
Melzer >>>>>> Isner.
Soderling >>>>>>> Ferrer.

Singularity
01-20-2011, 10:09 PM
From Nadal's post-match interview:

"Q. If you haven't have experience, it's not someone you played against a lot, what do you do to prepare yourself if you're a little unsure of the way he plays?

RAFAEL NADAL: If I play against Tomic?

Q. Yes.

RAFAEL NADAL: What can I say different? What can I do different? Practice little bit tomorrow, rest in the hotel, maybe going to the aquarium. I didn't go this year. I go every year. So that's all. "

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2011-01-20/201101201295498525167.html

A_Skywalker
01-20-2011, 10:12 PM
From Nadal's post-match interview:

"Q. If you haven't have experience, it's not someone you played against a lot, what do you do to prepare yourself if you're a little unsure of the way he plays?

RAFAEL NADAL: If I play against Tomic?

Q. Yes.

RAFAEL NADAL: What can I say different? What can I do different? Practice little bit tomorrow, rest in the hotel, maybe going to the aquarium. I didn't go this year. I go every year. So that's all. "

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2011-01-20/201101201295498525167.html

thats good preparation :lol:

Nole fan
01-20-2011, 10:20 PM
From Nadal's post-match interview:

"Q. If you haven't have experience, it's not someone you played against a lot, what do you do to prepare yourself if you're a little unsure of the way he plays?

RAFAEL NADAL: If I play against Tomic?

Q. Yes.

RAFAEL NADAL: What can I say different? What can I do different? Practice little bit tomorrow, rest in the hotel, maybe going to the aquarium. I didn't go this year. I go every year. So that's all. "

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2011-01-20/201101201295498525167.html

:haha:
I don't know sometimes with Nadal... does he really understand the question or he pretends not to?

lurker
01-20-2011, 10:27 PM
True, indeed. Really only recall the 1995 AO, 1997 USO, 2001 AO and the 2 Wimbledon SFs. A very balanced rivalry.

Off subject but I have to comment. I didn't see the 95 AO, I can't remember the US 97 but I know Rafter won that ;). The other three were thrillers. Great match up.
this is what nadal said when he was asked today if he was nervous about playing tomic? *must watch* LOL

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgncx1_a-trip-to-the-aquarium_sport#from=embed
During Tomic vs. Lopez, the commentators were building up Tomic, saying he played like Murray. Ok, saying he lulled you into a trance while playing is not exactly a compliment. But I think they were getting at the fact that Murray flogged Nadal at last year's AO. They also mentioned how Tomic played a practice set against Nadal last year at the AO and was up 4-1. They didn't say how it finished, but they implied Tomic has a nasty ego, saying he said playing Nadal was no problem. The above article also showcases his teenage arrogance. The video of Nadal is hilarious,if you take it as a reply to Tomic's preening, as is this comment from Yahoo tennis:

Nadal will get a day off to prepare for a match Tomic is promising he wont forget.

Im hitting the ball great, my confidence is up there, especially after two matches. I played a left-hander before I played him, thats always good, Tomic said. I dont think hell like my game. The way I mix it up, hes not going to like.

Sweeting might have news for Tomic.

Hes very intense on the court, Sweeting said. Hes going to be focused every point. Hes going to be bouncing up and down every point. Hes going to try to beat you 6-0, 6-0, 6-0. Hes not going to give you anything for free. I grew up watching him win slams playing unbelievable tennis, hitting unbelievable shots. So to be on the other side of the net from him and having him hit those shots against me, its intimidating.


The media is certainly doing its part to build up some nasty rivalry worth talking about between these two. If Nadal is really bent on thrashing his opponent like Sweeting says, it could very well be a 6-0 6-0 6-0 thrashing. Tomic would be lucky to win one game per set. Yes, Lopez is a lefty but his ball is flat, no spin. Methinks it is Tomic who will not like Nadal's game, :lol:

djb84xi
01-20-2011, 10:30 PM
Tomic could have been a decent player if he had come about in the 80's or 90's. On this surface Nadal will eat him alive.

Seriously, a buttload of WTA players hits the ball bigger than Bernie. If he gets on the board with a game he has done well. Might as well put Radwanska out there.

Tomic and that smack he's talking don't phase Rafa one damn bit. He's just 18, and don't know as much as he think he do. He'll compete well, but he will get his a** kicked in the process.

FormerRafaFan
01-20-2011, 10:31 PM
Tomic will probably be the first player to challenge Nadal this AO. And by "challenge" I mean it will probably go to 3 tight sets. The outcome is NID though. Rafa is going to win!

bad gambler
01-20-2011, 10:34 PM
Tomic to win 7 games

He has already overachieved this week so this is just a bonus for him

superslam77
01-20-2011, 10:35 PM
Tomic in 3...



















3 games that is. this tournament has been decided by the evil ones.

Nole fan
01-20-2011, 10:35 PM
LOL Nadal (the video answer), gotta love the guy, he's so sweet.

2003
01-20-2011, 11:19 PM
Question, if Tomic won this, would it be a bigger upset than Soderling Nadal 09 FO?

Would it be the greatest upset of all time?

Bigger than Changs wins in the 89 FO?

Personally I dont think so, but lets have your thoughts.

hicdick
01-20-2011, 11:31 PM
Off subject but I have to comment. I didn't see the 95 AO, I can't remember the US 97 but I know Rafter won that ;). The other three were thrillers. Great match up.

During Tomic vs. Lopez, the commentators were building up Tomic, saying he played like Murray. Ok, saying he lulled you into a trance while playing is not exactly a compliment. But I think they were getting at the fact that Murray flogged Nadal at last year's AO. They also mentioned how Tomic played a practice set against Nadal last year at the AO and was up 4-1. They didn't say how it finished, but they implied Tomic has a nasty ego, saying he said playing Nadal was no problem. The above article also showcases his teenage arrogance. The video of Nadal is hilarious,if you take it as a reply to Tomic's preening, as is this comment from Yahoo tennis:

Nadal will get a day off to prepare for a match Tomic is promising he won’t forget.

“I’m hitting the ball great, my confidence is up there, especially after two matches. I played a left-hander before I played him, that’s always good,” Tomic said. “I don’t think he’ll like my game. The way I mix it up, he’s not going to like.”

Sweeting might have news for Tomic.

“He’s very intense on the court,” Sweeting said. “He’s going to be focused every point. He’s going to be bouncing up and down every point. He’s going to try to beat you 6-0, 6-0, 6-0. He’s not going to give you anything for free. I grew up watching him win slams … playing unbelievable tennis, hitting unbelievable shots. So to be on the other side of the net from him and having him hit those shots against me, it’s intimidating.”


The media is certainly doing its part to build up some nasty rivalry worth talking about between these two. If Nadal is really bent on thrashing his opponent like Sweeting says, it could very well be a 6-0 6-0 6-0 thrashing. Tomic would be lucky to win one game per set. Yes, Lopez is a lefty but his ball is flat, no spin. Methinks it is Tomic who will not like Nadal's game, :lol:

i'm changing my prediction to 6-0, 6-1, 6-0 nadal

hicdick
01-20-2011, 11:32 PM
Question, if Tomic won this, would it be a bigger upset than Soderling Nadal 09 FO?

Would it be the greatest upset of all time?

Bigger than Changs wins in the 89 FO?

Personally I dont think so, but lets have your thoughts.

yes, yes and yes.

n8
01-21-2011, 12:01 AM
Typically I would not analyse the number one seed playing the second lowest ranked player remaining in the draw, but discussion of this match is a necessity given that Tomic is the last remaining male Aussie in the single draw.

Reasons to back Tomic

Tomic is not your average Australian wildcard. He is the youngest player in the top 200 (and 500 for that matter) and has an incredible record at the Australian Open. He become the youngest Open Era winner of the junior Australian Open in 2008 and a year later became the youngest ever winner of a match in the men's event. Now he had made the third round beating two top 50 players without dropping a set. Despite generally playing much more experienced opponents, one of Tomic's greatest strengths is his play in tight moments. He has a 35-15 record in tiebreakers including 8-2 at tour level.

Reasons to back Nadal

Pushing Nadal to a tiebreaker set will be a tough ask for Tomic. Nadal has dropped a mere four games in his first two rounds and applies relentless pressure on his opponents. Tomic may be great for his age, but Nadal was phenomenal. To put it into perspective, by the age of 16 and a half Nadal was ranked higher than Tomic is now. Movement is widely regarded as Tomic's weakness and Nadal is excellent at creating angles and making his rivals run.

My tip

The two have never played before and the fact that Tomic faced another left handed Spaniard in the previous won't be of much assistance as Lopez's and Nadal's styles are very different. It's a shame Tomic drew Nadal so early as I would've given the Aussie a fighting chance against anyone not in the top 5. Nadal in 3.

http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/joels-third-round-analysis

Jaz
01-21-2011, 12:03 AM
Nadal is going to destroy Tomic.

I can't see him winning more than 6 games.

robiht
01-21-2011, 12:06 AM
This match will be good:

Nadal 7-5,6-3,6-4

12 games Tomic.

n8
01-21-2011, 06:31 AM
Night match! At least this probably won't go as late as Tomic-Cilic last year.

LinkMage
01-21-2011, 06:33 AM
6-1 6-3 6-1 if I play on one leg, no?

:zzz:

amaze
01-21-2011, 07:35 AM
You always feel sorry for tennis when matches like this happen to occur at such an early stage.:(

Anyways, Rafa will prevail in 4 tight sets.

syc23
01-21-2011, 09:00 AM
6-0 6-2 7-6 to Rafa

Bye bye Tomic :timebomb:

Xristos
01-21-2011, 09:58 AM
Nadal 2, 2 and 2.

FlameOn
01-21-2011, 10:33 AM
Rafito in 3.

I can't believe Tomic said "Nadal won't like my game". :tape: Rafa should have no problem with his underpowered game at all.

FormerRafaFan
01-21-2011, 10:35 AM
You always feel sorry for tennis when matches like this happen to occur at such an early stage.:(

Anyways, Rafa will prevail in 4 tight sets.

No, he won't... more like 3 tight sets with something like 6-4, 7-5, 6-4

careergrandslam
01-21-2011, 10:46 AM
i hope rafa read that comment from tomic.

Rafa is the GOAT
01-21-2011, 04:24 PM
Rafa in 6-0 6-2 6-1 or 6-1 6-1 6-1

Dr.Slice
01-21-2011, 04:24 PM
I would like for Tomic to beat Nadal, but there is less than 0,001% chance of that happening. It is quite funny to read Tomic, who is basically a nobody at this stage, trashtalking a 9 time grand slam winner and the current nr.1. Rafa will get a good laugh from that.

4,2,2 to Nadal

Orka_n
01-21-2011, 04:42 PM
Tomic 0-6 1-6 7-6(7) 6-0 7-6(23).

MarioMega
01-21-2011, 04:45 PM
Tomic 0-6 1-6 7-6(7) 6-0 7-6(23).

Sorry mate, but there isn't tiebreaks in fifth set.

Fail!

Johnny Groove
01-21-2011, 04:46 PM
Tomic MIGHT get a set, but the kid's fitness will be the end of him.

0% chance Tomic won't get tired after a set or so.

V.H.
01-21-2011, 04:47 PM
6-1, 6-1, 6-1. Tomic has nothing

oranges
01-21-2011, 04:54 PM
Tomic MIGHT get a set, but the kid's fitness will be the end of him.

How?

Start da Game
01-21-2011, 04:56 PM
Tomic 0-6 1-6 7-6(7) 6-0 7-6(23).

Sorry mate, but there isn't tiebreaks in fifth set.

Fail!

pwned! :haha: :haha: :haha:

Doc14
01-21-2011, 04:58 PM
I would love to see Bernard win because he has all what it takes tp become a great champion.Hope that this would be intartaining!:)

abraxas21
01-21-2011, 04:58 PM
i love MTF

Johnny Groove
01-21-2011, 05:01 PM
How?

Do you think Tomic can hang with Nadal in 15-20 or more stroke rallies?

Orka_n
01-21-2011, 05:14 PM
Sorry mate, but there isn't tiebreaks in fifth set.

Fail!:lol: Messed up on that one didn't I. ;) I blame my lack of sleep. Sweden and Melbourne are 10 timezones apart after all. :D

oranges
01-21-2011, 05:15 PM
Do you think Tomic can hang with Nadal in 15-20 or more stroke rallies?

No, hence my question, how is he going to win a set.

PiggyGotRoasted
01-21-2011, 05:19 PM
The game is calling out for a new hero, can Tomic be the one?

Could his game be the perfect anti-piggy solution?

Is he ready yet?

Will he even take a set?

Who knows, but does it matter when the world is going to end in 2012 any way?

PiggyGotRoasted
01-21-2011, 05:21 PM
Tomic wont get a game, there is no way on earth that he will win this match later... Nadal is amazing and can never lose a game because he is that great and is not human and it is not fair because he has extra substances than other players so there is no way he will ever lose again, especially not against tomic.

Johnny Groove
01-21-2011, 05:24 PM
No, hence my question, how is he going to win a set.

I said he *might* get a set :p

oranges
01-21-2011, 05:31 PM
I said he *might* get a set :p

Always so generous? :lol: It will be harsh reality check for Bernie. Doubt he'd want that check even with Ferrer.

Allez
01-21-2011, 05:52 PM
The most interesting aspect of this match will be the atmosphere and not the tennis. The result is a done deal. However if Tomic put up enogh good fight it could lead to a very lively atmosphere.

No doubt Tomic will relish this opportunity but Nadal will remain untroubled and sail though in 3 sets.

Chartreuse
01-21-2011, 05:53 PM
Nadal.

Commander Data
01-21-2011, 05:58 PM
Aint gonna be pretty

hemanthjava
01-21-2011, 06:48 PM
Australian Open 2011: Bernard Tomic splits nation as he takes on Nadal
The 18-year old is seen as a cosseted, sulking prince, unlike the Spaniard who is humble, accessible and almost universally loved

Orka_n
01-21-2011, 06:56 PM
Australian Open 2011: Bernard Tomic splits nation as he takes on Nadal
The 18-year old is seen as a cosseted, sulking prince, unlike the Spaniard who is humble, accessible and almost universally lovedThis guy makes the greatest posts :haha:

It's as if he's a bot programmed with random tennis information which he spouts when he feels like it, regardless of what's being discussed in the thread.

Start da Game
01-21-2011, 07:12 PM
too many hopes on tomickey mouse is directly proportional to probability of utter disappointment.......

Roger the Dodger
01-21-2011, 07:33 PM
The game is calling out for a new hero, can Tomic be the one?

Could his game be the perfect anti-piggy solution?

Is he ready yet?

Will he even take a set?

Who knows, but does it matter when the world is going to end in 2012 any way?

:lol: the perfect anti-piggy solution!

too many hopes on tomickey mouse is directly proportional to probability of utter disappointment.......

Ah, we agree on something...

Manequin75
01-22-2011, 03:40 AM
sorry this thread cant be lost already. Had to bump it. Cant wait for this game. :)

Manequin75
01-22-2011, 03:45 AM
The most interesting aspect of this match will be the atmosphere and not the tennis. The result is a done deal. However if Tomic put up enogh good fight it could lead to a very lively atmosphere.

No doubt Tomic will relish this opportunity but Nadal will remain untroubled and sail though in 3 sets.

I agree...great atmosphere under the lights at Laver tonight. Wish I could attend this in person...oh well :( would love it if Tomic wins the first set - would be great to see the crowd go wild and see how Rafa responds. Imagine iF Tomic then goes a break up in the second set....oh god :) Dont mind some drama tonight as long as Rafa moves on to the next round at the end of it all....The match wont begin until 4:30 am EST at the earliest I think. Still quite a long wait.

MarioMega
01-22-2011, 03:46 AM
Tomic will be rapped in front of his crowd.

Nadal'll eat him alive with potatoes.

There's no chance in hell Tomic win this.

Manequin75
01-22-2011, 03:49 AM
I would like for Tomic to beat Nadal, but there is less than 0,001% chance of that happening. It is quite funny to read Tomic, who is basically a nobody at this stage, trashtalking a 9 time grand slam winner and the current nr.1. Rafa will get a good laugh from that.

4,2,2 to Nadal

trash talk? I don't think that was trash talk. He simply said that he has the ability to mix things up and rafa might not like that. Why do you think thats trash talk?

Audacity
01-22-2011, 03:51 AM
What's the hype? Nadal will win in 3... big deal. Nothing we haven't seen before :lol:

Manequin75
01-22-2011, 03:54 AM
i hope rafa read that comment from tomic.

nopes....he has been at the aquarium ;)

Bowie
01-22-2011, 06:33 AM
I think a lot of you guys are reading too much into the smallest details of Tomic media reports/interviews. He seems like a confident kid who loves the game and repeats how "it's a dream come true" to play a champion like Nadal on Rod Laver Arena. The "he might not like my game" comment has been taken so far out of context it's embarrassing.

He appears to be doing his best to distance himself from his controversial father, and often seems quite self-deprecating and unassuming.

I wish him the best of luck -- it's always exciting to see fresh young players come up through the ranks, just like it was during Nadal's emergence -- but having said that I can't see him nabbing more than eight games.

oranges
01-22-2011, 06:36 AM
He appears to be doing his best to distance himself from his controversial father, and often seems quite self-deprecating and unassuming.



:haha: Good joke, that one

Bowie
01-22-2011, 06:41 AM
:haha: Good joke, that one
Likewise.

paseo
01-22-2011, 06:49 AM
Can't wait for this demolition job :D. Bet all my vcash on Nadal.

tests
01-22-2011, 07:01 AM
What the fuck is up with these murray comments? Murray is a pusher but he often blasts forehands backhand s and first servres against nadal. Can tomic do this?

green25814
01-22-2011, 07:13 AM
The Murray comparisons are actually accurate. At Tomic's stage Murray was actually little better as a player. He had better movement and vision, but his game was nothing special. Murray's breakout match where he evolved as a player came against Nadal at a similar stage in the Australian Open.

People are wondering whether Tomic will do something similar. Probably not.

Audacity
01-22-2011, 07:27 AM
Can't wait for this demolition job :D. Bet all my vcash on Nadal.

Quality capping. :worship:

Sander.
01-22-2011, 07:38 AM
Nadal with no problems, so in 3.

abraxas21
01-22-2011, 08:34 AM
all in nadal - 257000 vcash

Vamos_Me_Rafa
01-22-2011, 08:53 AM
Rafa of course. :worship:

tests
01-22-2011, 10:30 AM
tomics missing some good opportunities.. almost everyone does against nadal.

nadal will feast on this kid

syc23
01-22-2011, 10:32 AM
There goes my 1st set bagel set for Nadal. Not sure Tomic can take even a set of Nadal but you never know.

tests
01-22-2011, 10:36 AM
man, the thing i hate about nadal is that if a guy is having a good day, i.e. blasting forehands and hitting first serves, like a soderling or potro, nadals very vulnerable.

tests
01-22-2011, 10:37 AM
wow, that was a nice shot by tomic.

gusavo
01-22-2011, 10:38 AM
he said that he felt his game matched up well against nadal, can anybody tell me what the problem is?

tests
01-22-2011, 10:40 AM
looks like he does indeed match up well with nadal. Only problem is, like others who match up well with nadal (potro, soderling) you have to capitalize on your shots in order to beat nadal. Nadal does not give away anything.

syc23
01-22-2011, 10:42 AM
Highly unlikely that this kid can beat Nadal but if the impossible was to happen, I expect Mr R. Federer will be transferring
a few $$$ into Tomic's bank account tonight.

tests
01-22-2011, 10:46 AM
shits over. Nadals ability to run down every point just frustrates these youngsters.

tests
01-22-2011, 11:09 AM
im not gonna lie, i havent really watched bernard tomic before, but this kid is entertaining to watch. I dig his playstyle.

fast_clay
01-22-2011, 11:16 AM
in two years time tomic will be mugboar's nemesis...flat simon like screwy forehand down the line + world class backhand is pretty much all you need to take down a champ in this limited era... Tomic will lose, but he'll gain more out of it than The Colossal Wedgie would care to realise...

Tomic - the anti-anti-tennis

mrclyde
01-22-2011, 11:18 AM
This Tomci can take 6-0 set from Nadal but then will fall like he's doing with outside top 200 players. He is playing chess, like Simon.

tests
01-22-2011, 11:20 AM
ahh dont compare tomic to simon. Tomics game is much more entertaining. simon is just a pusher whose semi aggresive.

tests
01-22-2011, 11:26 AM
great tomic just folded

Jaz
01-22-2011, 11:27 AM
tomic expected choke.!

Jaz
01-22-2011, 11:28 AM
What an anti-climax.

Jaz
01-22-2011, 11:29 AM
Tomic surrendered 2 breaks, that's how much he's a mug.

tests
01-22-2011, 11:41 AM
tomics not doing much running, but he choked majorly. This kids young, but if he can improve his fitness, improve his serve, rafa better watch out in the future.

Jaz
01-22-2011, 11:47 AM
Wow I've been posting in the wrong thread, apologies mods!

tests
01-22-2011, 11:50 AM
man, 4-0 lead and this big of a choke??

Nadal is getting some lucky breaks...

tjohansson
01-22-2011, 11:52 AM
Your the biggest knob on the planet Jaz. This kid is 199 in the world challenging the World Number 1, It is natural that he will eventually choke against a more mature player who's played under these conditions alot more. He's played unbelievably well not many other players can play to a 4-0 lead against the World Number 1. Tomic is such a frustrating player to play for any player and that includes Nadal, Commanding points against Nadal is unheard of for most players. He's answered his critics and took it to the World Number 1 for alot of the 2nd set.

Show some respect you tool

Pfloyd
01-22-2011, 11:54 AM
Hata's gonna hate!

:baby:

tests
01-22-2011, 11:56 AM
why is tomic slicing so much. It doesnt work against the nadals and federers of the world!

tests
01-22-2011, 11:57 AM
i wonder how a tomic vs federer match would go? I could imagine a lot of pretty points haha.

Nonetheless, Tomic is quite random in his style.

tjohansson
01-22-2011, 12:22 PM
Tomic is getting alot of chances on the Nadal serve.

Bowie
01-22-2011, 12:26 PM
why is tomic slicing so much. It doesnt work against the nadals and federers of the world!
They're easier on his young skinny body during the long points.

tjohansson
01-22-2011, 12:42 PM
Bernard :worship:. Gave it his all but didn't quite have the maturity in his game tonight.

mrclyde
01-22-2011, 12:53 PM
Nadal holded his nerves.

Start da Game
01-22-2011, 02:18 PM
this is how the match will progress,

tomickey will feed nadal a lot of balls just like simon in 2009........nadal will play very intelligently and out-maneuver this aussie pusher, exactly what he did to simon in AO 2009........

nadal def. simon 6-2, 7-5, 7-5 - AO 2009 QF

nadal def. tomickey 6-2, 7-5, 6-3 - AO 2011 3rd rd

rafaholic
01-22-2011, 03:43 PM
the rafa's worst performance in last 7 years but still prevailed

Jaz
01-22-2011, 03:56 PM
the rafa's worst performance in last 7 years but still prevailed

That's rather dramatic... and exaggerated. :rolleyes:

FormerRafaFan
01-22-2011, 06:51 PM
No, he won't... more like 3 tight sets with something like 6-4, 7-5, 6-4

Looks like I wasn't that far off.. I even guessed the second set right! lol.

Nole fan
01-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Watch out when Tomic develops his body and becomes fitter.