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misty1
01-10-2011, 06:16 PM
Here's the thread for Milos. Let all discussion about him now take place here

seems strange im the one finally making the thread

he's the top ranked canadian, 20 years old and ranked at a career high of # 153.

the highlights of his career came last year during the late half of the season when he made the final in a canadian challenger last year, beating 2 seeded players along the way before falling to german Tobias Kamke. He also beat the world #'s 1 and 2 in the doubles of the rogers cup and madce it to his first quarter final of an atp event falling to russian igor andreev.

RogerExpress
01-10-2011, 08:28 PM
Great to have a topic for Milos :yeah:, hope in next forum request you can get a Canadian forum because you deserve it, Ricardas and canadian players topics are very active and a lot of people post frequently in them so I think it's matter of time they get their own forum.

Respect to Milos tomorrow will be made AO qualifying draw, at this moment he would be 26th seed and would have to face 1-8 seeded in third round, hope he gets a good draw, I've belief he can do something similar to what he did in last US Open. I let you the seedings until this moment

1- Kavcic
2- Bolelli
3- Dimitrov
4- Souza
5- Chiudinelli
6- Sweeting
7- Haider Maurer
8- Soeda
9- Gremelmayr
10- Huta Galung
11- Muller
12- Robert
13- Roger Vasselin
14- Sijsling
15- Young
16- Niland
17- Greul
18- Mahut
19- Koubek
20- Pospisil
21- Zemlja
22- Kravchuk
23- Korolev
24- Kudryavtsev
25- Bozoljac
26- Raonic
27- Ouanna
28- Gicquel
29- Ball
30- Dutra Da Silva
31- Janowicz
32- Millot

FormerRafaFan
01-10-2011, 08:46 PM
Great to have a topic for Milos :yeah:, hope in next forum request you can get a Canadian forum because you deserve it, Ricardas and canadian players topics are very active and a lot of people post frequently in them so I think it's matter of time they get their own forum.

Respect to Milos tomorrow will be made AO qualifying draw, at this moment he would be 26th seed and would have to face 1-8 seeded in third round, hope he gets a good draw, I've belief he can do something similar to what he did in last US Open. I let you the seedings until this moment

1- Kavcic
2- Bolelli
3- Dimitrov
4- Souza
5- Chiudinelli
6- Sweeting
7- Haider Maurer
8- Soeda
9- Gremelmayr
10- Huta Galung
11- Muller
12- Robert
13- Roger Vasselin
14- Sijsling
15- Young
16- Niland
17- Greul
18- Mahut
19- Koubek
20- Pospisil
21- Zemlja
22- Kravchuk
23- Korolev
24- Kudryavtsev
25- Bozoljac
26- Raonic
27- Ouanna
28- Gicquel
29- Ball
30- Dutra Da Silva
31- Janowicz
32- Millot

Thanks for the list. I think he's good enough to qualify, even beat the top seeds. But it really depends on a lot of factors. I'm expecting the matches to get pretty close, at least his final qualies match. He almost beat Roger Vasselin, and he's kinda good. So I believe he has a fair shot. Certainly the Canadian with the best chance to qualify. He's the only Canadian I see qualifying actually. But we'll see. Nothing is for certain yet. I hope he'll get a good draw though.

Snowwy
01-10-2011, 08:53 PM
Ideally he would end up in Souza's section.

misty1
01-10-2011, 08:58 PM
i fixed the first post to include more on him

i was rushed to create the thread so i know it wasnt very good

Blarghman
01-10-2011, 10:38 PM
Thanks for starting this thread, misty :yeah:

Really looking forwards to Milos' season, I think he can be a solid breakthrough player, and crack the top 100 for sure :)

For those wondering, Milos has just 11 points that will come off before mid-April, when he has his futures wins in Korea dropping off. So he will surely continue to rise for the next few months at least.

misty1
01-10-2011, 11:00 PM
beginning of the season is now worry but he does have alot to defend in the back half so we'll see if he can build himself a cushion

Emeraldhands
01-11-2011, 03:51 AM
Great work on starting this thread Misty. Is it going to move to the sub-forum if we ever get one? I am looking forward to Milos having a breakthrough season this year. Top 100 is defenitely feasible for him.

Snowwy
01-11-2011, 05:20 AM
Great work on starting this thread Misty. Is it going to move to the sub-forum if we ever get one? I am looking forward to Milos having a breakthrough season this year. Top 100 is defenitely feasible for him.

Yah, it would be moved if it were to happen.

ibreak4coffee
01-11-2011, 05:41 AM
Awesome. Milos can beat anyone in qualifying if he's on his game. Hope his draw is good...

misty1
01-11-2011, 12:59 PM
WOW milos really got stuck with probably one of the toughest first round opponents he could have gotten in david goffin. The kid just finished taking wawrinka to the limit, he's very good and a very dangerous first round.

if he can get past gopffin he should qualify, there's tricky guys in there but no one else he should really lose to

RogerExpress
01-11-2011, 01:31 PM
Well it seems I was wrong about seedings 25-32 facing 1-8 in 3rd round :p, it is only for main draw

Conor Niland IRL (16) v Kevin Kim USA
Andrej Martin SVK v James Lemke AUS
Ryler DeHeart USA v Nikola Mektic CRO
David Goffin BEL v Milos Raonic CAN (26)


I was never heard anything about Goffin until last week, hope Milos can handle him

Emeraldhands
01-11-2011, 01:53 PM
Goffin could be a really tough first round for Milos. He will have to play his best. Milos and David both had good runs at the end of last year and David has played really well at the start of this season. Should be a really interesting match but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Milos had trouble and didn't win this one.

misty1
01-11-2011, 02:15 PM
its a 50/50 that milos gets past goffin

Blarghman
01-11-2011, 03:50 PM
Very interesting first match for Milos, against another talented guy of similar age in Goffin. It should be tough for him, but if he wins that match I think he should qualify from that section.

ibreak4coffee
01-12-2011, 01:44 AM
Vagnozzi just won. Milos should be starting in 15 minutes :)

big_j_tennis
01-12-2011, 02:04 AM
the match has started

misty1
01-12-2011, 02:11 AM
2-1 milos

Blarghman
01-12-2011, 02:12 AM
Milos with the break :cool: 3*-1

Keep it up :yeah:

156mphserve
01-12-2011, 02:20 AM
:worship:

big_j_tennis
01-12-2011, 02:24 AM
5-2 milos

Emeraldhands
01-12-2011, 02:27 AM
Man David is only 5'4 so this could be a really bad matchup for him

Blarghman
01-12-2011, 02:28 AM
Dream start for Milos :) He's cruising on serve, only took 25 minutes to get the first set.

Emeraldhands
01-12-2011, 02:28 AM
Wow great win for Milos

Emeraldhands
01-12-2011, 02:29 AM
Dream start indeed

Gonzil
01-12-2011, 02:29 AM
Great start for Milos. Let's hope he carries it through to the second set.

What do you guys think is the meaing of the "winners" statistic? I often find on grand slam scoring, winners = aces and unefforced errors = DFs. But whenever I look Milos has twice as many winners as aces. I am wondering whether there is a programming error so that a multiplication of 2 has crept in.

Blarghman
01-12-2011, 02:29 AM
Goffin retires, looks like Milos wins 6:2 ret. Too bad for the Belgian, but nice for Milos, a good 25-minute warmup, and making sure to get it done before any potential rain comes up.

Snowwy
01-12-2011, 02:29 AM
Milos won, who does he play next?

ibreak4coffee
01-12-2011, 02:30 AM
Looks like Goffin retired. Milos through.

Emeraldhands
01-12-2011, 02:30 AM
He should cruise into the main draw now.

ibreak4coffee
01-12-2011, 02:30 AM
Milos won, who does he play next?

Either DeHeart or Mektic. Mektic is up 3-0 in the 1st set right now. Milos the clear favorite against either.

Snowwy
01-12-2011, 02:30 AM
Man David is only 5'4 so this could be a really bad matchup for him

He's taller than that, those are old stats.

Emeraldhands
01-12-2011, 02:32 AM
I can't believe he crushed him like that, maybe David was injured from the start but that was a great set of tennis by Milos nonetheless

RogerExpress
01-12-2011, 02:33 AM
Vamos Milos !!!, a victory against a dangerous opponent and without wasting energy

misty1
01-12-2011, 02:53 AM
not that im not happy
but that was dissapointingly anti-climatic

here i was expecting an exciting, tough match and this happens

to bad for david it sucks that he had to lose in such a way

but milos is through so thats good

ibreak4coffee
01-12-2011, 03:10 AM
Mektic beat DeHeart 6-0 6-2 - next up for Milos

FormerRafaFan
01-12-2011, 06:27 AM
WOW.. did he really win? Great news to wake up to. And he was the most difficult player he had to face, right? That means he hopefully qualifies :) He still have to play two more matches though.. Good luck Milos!

FormerRafaFan
01-12-2011, 06:33 AM
Goffin retires, looks like Milos wins 6:2 ret. Too bad for the Belgian, but nice for Milos, a good 25-minute warmup, and making sure to get it done before any potential rain comes up.

Too bad Goffin retired. I think a full match actually would have been better for Milos. But like someone else said, his next opponents don't seem that tough, so hopefully he'll beat them anyway :)

I feel bad for Goffin though. Always sad to see someone win because a player retires.. Even though the player winning is your favorite.

dancy_fan
01-12-2011, 11:18 AM
Nice win Milos and good luck next round

Emeraldhands
01-14-2011, 07:33 PM
I watched some of the match of Milos versus Rafa in Japan last year and I have to say that I was quite impressed. I hadn't seen any of the hilites but he aquitted himself extremely well. I think he will qualify and he should have qualified in Chennai last week too, just got unlucky in the tie-breaker.

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 12:23 AM
First match on his court is done, so Milos will be up very shortly. Good luck to him :yeah:

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 01:08 AM
Milos had a BP at 4-3*, but he couldn't take advantage. He's going well on serve, though, up 5-4*

misty1
01-15-2011, 01:11 AM
mektic is keeping it close with a 44% first serve

i knew milos would not crush him

i somehow doubt mektic has 0 winners though

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 01:13 AM
Milos gets the break, takes the set 6-4 :yeah:

Misty, I don't think they keep the actual winners/UE for these courts in qualys, only aces are winners (and for some reason they are x2 in the winners column).

misty1
01-15-2011, 01:13 AM
broke for 6-4

misty1
01-15-2011, 01:14 AM
Milos gets the break, takes the set 6-4 :yeah:

Misty, I don't think they keep the actual winners/UE for these courts in qualys, only aces are winners (and for some reason they are x2 in the winners column).

that definately explains things because if he had 0 winners to milos's 12 he would be being crushed

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 01:22 AM
Breaks to open the second, up 2*-0. Don't let up Milos, finish this thing :yeah:

Emeraldhands
01-15-2011, 01:33 AM
Milos is giving him nothing on the serve, which is a really good sign.

Emeraldhands
01-15-2011, 01:40 AM
Was breezing in the second till he hit that final service game

156mphserve
01-15-2011, 01:42 AM
Milos wins it 6-4 6-1, good match, never gave Mektic a look in on his serve. I'm pleased:D

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 01:42 AM
6-4 6-1, good stuff :cool:

Clearly you jinxed him for that last game, Emerald :p

misty1
01-15-2011, 01:45 AM
its a good thing milos has that first serve because obviosuly his second serve is a liability if he's winning less than 50% against a guy like mektic

he wouldnt have won that way serving at 55%, winning 46% of second serve points against more experienced players

a win is the win though and thats what matters

now frank better not lose to korolev

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 01:52 AM
Kevin Kim or Andrej Martin up next; they're level in the first at the moment. Either way, Milos should be favoured.

misty1
01-15-2011, 01:56 AM
hasnt he lost to kevin kim before?

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 01:59 AM
hasnt he lost to kevin kim before?

No H2H according to the ITF. Kim has been garbage recently though, had a long losing streak to end 2010. Frankly, Martin should beat him in the match on right now.

misty1
01-15-2011, 02:07 AM
i seem to remember he did..maybe im wrong

anyway, he probably wont get past martin anyway

Emeraldhands
01-15-2011, 02:28 AM
I think he lost to Robert Kendrick, you can't tell with these USA Challengers, it's always the same people. Kendrick, Kim, Levine, Odesnik, Reynolds, Sweeting, they are all starting to look alike. LOL!!!

Should be a good match for Milos tomorrow, hopefully they will put him on showcourt 3.

Emeraldhands
01-15-2011, 02:53 AM
Who would you guys like to see Milos face in the third round?

Snowwy
01-15-2011, 04:57 AM
Raonic vs Martin.

Filo V.
01-15-2011, 05:04 AM
I said some bad things about Raonic before, and I take them all back Canucks, and other Raonic fans. He's a very good talent and improving leaps and bounds. Great win today and he has a great shot at qualifying. He's showing signs of being more than just a serve player.

misty1
01-15-2011, 12:57 PM
I think he lost to Robert Kendrick, you can't tell with these USA Challengers, it's always the same people. Kendrick, Kim, Levine, Odesnik, Reynolds, Sweeting, they are all starting to look alike. LOL!!!

Should be a good match for Milos tomorrow, hopefully they will put him on showcourt 3.

lol, true

FormerRafaFan
01-15-2011, 03:45 PM
I think he lost to Robert Kendrick, you can't tell with these USA Challengers, it's always the same people. Kendrick, Kim, Levine, Odesnik, Reynolds, Sweeting, they are all starting to look alike. LOL!!!

Should be a good match for Milos tomorrow, hopefully they will put him on showcourt 3.

Sadly, he's scheduled for 10 am on court 4. At least I get to watch the live scores, since it'll be around midnight for me. It's not too late :)

Stephanie Dubois from Canada is second up on the Showcourt 3 though. So at least you guys get to see one Canadian play.

ETA: an article from Open Court about Raonic, including a video from his last game in the match yesterday.

http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/opencourt/archive/2011/01/15/raonic-to-final-qualifying-round-video.aspx

RogerExpress
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
Good for Milos, today against Andrej Martin, another young player that is in the best moment of his career, good luck for Raonic

Thanks for the video :)

Emeraldhands
01-15-2011, 06:53 PM
Ya that is what we thought for Polansky yesterday and they cut the live feed right before his match.

Emeraldhands
01-15-2011, 06:54 PM
But I think it should be a very entertaining match tonight even though I won't get to see the livescores since me and my wife are going out with some friends. I will get to see the start of the match though.

misty1
01-15-2011, 07:20 PM
i dont know alot about martin but he did give andreev his stiffest test in qualifying for sydney so..he should be a test for milos

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 11:25 PM
Milos down 0-3* early :o

Emeraldhands
01-15-2011, 11:27 PM
Ya he better get in this match fast or it could be over really quick

Blarghman
01-15-2011, 11:51 PM
Milos had better wake up in the second, he's serving under 40% at the moment.

Blarghman
01-16-2011, 12:21 AM
Survived being down 3-4*, now on serve 5-4*

Blarghman
01-16-2011, 12:32 AM
Milos blows Martin away in the TB, 7-0 :eek: Right back in this thing :yeah:

GasquetGulbis
01-16-2011, 12:32 AM
Steals the second set...

valexie03
01-16-2011, 12:32 AM
He won the tiebreak :woohoo:

Blarghman
01-16-2011, 12:43 AM
Ahead for the first time in the match, 2*-1 in the third :cool:

Gonzil
01-16-2011, 01:00 AM
And on the 7th BP he gets a second break. I like the way Raonic seems to pick up steam once he wins a set.

Blarghman
01-16-2011, 01:00 AM
Almost blew two straight 0*-40 games on Martin's serve, but gets the break, serving for the match at 5*-2.

Not surprised to see him pulling away in the third, Martin's still gotta be reeling from getting bagelled in the TB.

Blarghman
01-16-2011, 01:02 AM
And gets it done :woohoo:

Excellent fightback, and a well-deserved MD place, let's hope for a good draw.

Gonzil
01-16-2011, 01:03 AM
Raonic is now 6-0 on GS qualifying matches. Pretty good!

Emeraldhands
01-16-2011, 04:06 AM
How did the match go guys? I was gone for a supper. Was he ever down a break or two in the second because the third seems to be pretty self-explanatory.

Blarghman
01-16-2011, 04:19 AM
How did the match go guys? I was gone for a supper. Was he ever down a break or two in the second because the third seems to be pretty self-explanatory.

He was down a break in the second, but broke back at 3-4*.

Gonzil
01-16-2011, 04:54 AM
Tom Tebbutt came into the commentary booth for Dubois' match and said that Raonic was horrible in the first part of the match, and seemed to be bemoaning his fate, but managed to turn things around and then was great at the end.

I hope Raonic will be able to use this experience in the future, and see that he can turn things around when he is playing badly (and that hanging his head is not going to do the trick).

I must say I thought he was finished when he got broken in the second set.

Snowwy
01-16-2011, 05:32 AM
Raonic is now 6-0 on GS qualifying matches. Pretty good!

Didn't PP start like this and we know where he is now..

ibreak4coffee
01-16-2011, 06:16 AM
I think Milos has to be considered a strong favorite against Phau on Tuesday...

FormerRafaFan
01-16-2011, 07:24 AM
Didn't PP start like this and we know where he is now..

Yeah, but confidence, serve, mental strength: Milos > Peter

I can already see that Milos is VERY strong mentally. It takes a lot to get back when down in a match like this. And we all know how important mental strength is in this game. Hell, that is probably why Rafa made it this far. And I'm sorry, but I just don't see the same mental strength from Peter.

misty1
01-16-2011, 12:56 PM
I think Milos has to be considered a strong favorite against Phau on Tuesday...

you would think so but everyone here thought he was the favorite against carsten ball too

i could see milos losing to bjorn

FormerRafaFan
01-16-2011, 01:12 PM
you would think so but everyone here thought he was the favorite against carsten ball too

i could see milos losing to bjorn

He didn't play well against Carsten though.. I think he'll be able to win, but sure, he has to play well, or else Phau will win instead.

misty1
01-16-2011, 01:17 PM
as we all know a big factor will be the heat and how milos handles it poorly

so if its hot the longer bjorn could keep him out and running..and he will make milos run the more bjorn's chances increase of a win

RogerExpress
01-16-2011, 01:53 PM
If it was a best of 3 sets match surely Milos would be the favorite, but in a best of five match I think is 50/50. I don't remember where, but I read after that match against Ball that Milos would work to not losing again a match for physical motives, hope he had improve in that aspect and show us he can keep a good level for a long time

FormerRafaFan
01-16-2011, 04:26 PM
If it was a best of 3 sets match surely Milos would be the favorite, but in a best of five match I think is 50/50. I don't remember where, but I read after that match against Ball that Milos would work to not losing again a match for physical motives, hope he had improve in that aspect and show us he can keep a good level for a long time

Yeah. I read that too. He said he would work on the physical. He also needs to work on his footwork and ROS imo though. He is far from a perfect player, but he's getting there.. baby steps :) As of now though the best aspects about his game are his mental strength and serve. Lets hope that gets him through the match with Phou.

ibreak4coffee
01-16-2011, 04:50 PM
If it was a best of 3 sets match surely Milos would be the favorite, but in a best of five match I think is 50/50. I don't remember where, but I read after that match against Ball that Milos would work to not losing again a match for physical motives, hope he had improve in that aspect and show us he can keep a good level for a long time

I was at his match against Ball - he clearly got tired. But that was also his first GS match - he was clearly nervous as well. He's picked up experience now.

misty1
01-16-2011, 05:05 PM
something i've noticed in these qualies is that first first serve has gone.

His serve % is way down from where it usually is(in the high 60's-mind 70's) and he doesnt win alot of points off second serve..its something he'll have to sort out

Gonzil
01-16-2011, 06:40 PM
Here is Tom Tebbutt's report on Milos:

Raonic looked like anything but the eventual winner for much of his match, and he was actually down a set and a break in the second set at 3-4. He was completely out of sorts, almost frothing with frustration at his erratic play against a very solid, much more composed opponent in Andrej Martin of Slovakia. But Raonic, immediately after losing his serve, broke back to 4-4 and soon became a transformed competitor. He elevated his game and was simply too much for Martin. He took the second set tiebreak emphatically 7-0, hitting winners on the first four points.

A break in the fourth game of the third set and Raonic was in control of his destiny, something that had looked to be the case – but in the opposite sense – only a short time earlier. The final score was 4-6, 7-6(0), 6-2. “I was trying everything but I had a poor start,” he explained later. “I’ve done a lot of fitness work and as soon as my legs started, so did my game.”

By the end, Raonic’s power serving, heavy-duty inside/out forehand and volleying were too much for the hard-working Slovak who had no big weapons to call on in response.

The Australian Open will be Raonic’s second Grand Slam tournament, following the 2010 US Open, in a row via the qualifying route. “It’s a good feeling but my goal is as soon as possible not to have to play the qualifying,” said the world No.152. “I feel like I’m playing at a very high level and want to do that every day.”

Raonic, 20, has a practice scheduled on Monday with veteran David Nalbandian on Argentina.

His Sunday match on Court 4 attracted some notable spectators, most of them connected with his coach, the retired Spanish player Galo Blanco. There was Albert Costa, the 2002 French Open champ and current Spanish Davis Cup captain, Carlos Costa, Rafael Nadal’s agent, well-known coach Jose Perlas and former Canadian Ken Myerson, best known as Andy Roddick’s agent.

Raonic caught a break with his placement in the main draw. He will play No. 85-ranked veteran (31) Bjorn Phau of Germany on Tuesday. Pfau is very fast but, at 5-foot-9, does not have anything close to the big shots that the 6-foot-5 Raonic possesses.

http://www.lovemeansnothing.ca/node/748

FormerRafaFan
01-16-2011, 07:23 PM
Thanks for the article, Gonzil. It was an interesting read.

I still think that the main thing seperating Peter and Milos is that Milos is a lot stronger mentally than Peter. And that's why he's the #1 Canadian right now instead of Pete.

big_j_tennis
01-16-2011, 07:44 PM
Milos seems to be also very physically strong. not only is he tall, but the guys really is powerful and strong...

Blarghman
01-16-2011, 07:54 PM
Excellent draw for Milos, another GS where he gets one of the best possibilities on the board. I agree with what people have said about fitness over 5 sets being the question for him. Good luck to him :yeah:

156mphserve
01-16-2011, 09:26 PM
Yep fitness may be the biggest issue, but after that match against Ball and his vow to never let lack of fitness to be the reason for another loss, he won a long 5 setter in Davis cup, something like 10-8 or 9-7 in the 5th? I can't rmemeber where that was played so heat may not have been a factor, but at least it gives him confidence that he can play 5 sets. I think it's 50/50 but if Milos comes out and plays the way he can, I don't see Phau beating him, it's as simple as that for me;)

ShotmaKer
01-16-2011, 10:28 PM
Milos :rocker2: I really hope he will win some matches in the main draw!!

Sapeod
01-16-2011, 10:31 PM
He has a great chance to get to the 3rd round. Cilic is playing shit. C'mon, Milos!

misty1
01-16-2011, 11:20 PM
he's not playing cilic he's playing llodra or chela next and those 2 are playing well

2nd round is up for him, which would atleast be better than last time

ibreak4coffee
01-16-2011, 11:28 PM
The first set he played against Ball in New York was over an hour, which was part of the problem. If he get off to a fast start fitness wouldn't even be as much of an issue here but even so I'm sure he's much better prepared than in August.

Plus Phau hasnt played in a week and Milos came through qualifying relatively easily so I definitely give him the edge and expect a good start from him.

ShotmaKer
01-16-2011, 11:31 PM
The first set he played against Ball in New York was over an hour, which was part of the problem. If he get off to a fast start fitness wouldn't even be as much of an issue here but even so I'm sure he's much better prepared than in August.

Plus Phau hasnt played in a week and Milos came through qualifying relatively easily so I definitely give him the edge and expect a good start from him.

Agreed. I think he has a great shot at the 2nd round. Then it becomes more complicated.

Blarghman
01-17-2011, 12:38 AM
Interview with Milos from Steph Myles here:

http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/opencourt/archive/2011/01/16/happy-raonic-video.aspx

ShotmaKer
01-17-2011, 01:08 AM
thanks for posting mate.

Gonzil
01-17-2011, 02:06 AM
And match highlights here:

http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/opencourt/archive/2011/01/16/milos-raonic-2-for-2-in-grand-slam-qualies.aspx

Emeraldhands
01-17-2011, 03:28 AM
Man after watching those hi-lites, he can really move for a big guy.

FormerRafaFan
01-17-2011, 07:03 PM
And match highlights here:

http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/opencourt/archive/2011/01/16/milos-raonic-2-for-2-in-grand-slam-qualies.aspx

Thaks for posting that video. It seems like he's moving a bit better now, probably something he has worked on in the off season. he said he would work on his fitness. I also think his ros has gotten better too. I think he can be a great player if he keeps on improving like this. I do think it's a bit early to tell yet, but the guy's got potential! I'm not expecting him to beat guys in the Top 10 just yet, but hopefully he will in the future :)

Blarghman
01-17-2011, 11:27 PM
Good luck to Milos today :yeah:; too bad he's up last, I won't be able to follow that late :mad:

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 01:07 AM
Maybe we will get lucky and the other matches will go really fast

Blarghman
01-18-2011, 06:25 AM
Milos is on court, and, just like Frank last night, right on time for me to go to sleep :(

FormerRafaFan
01-18-2011, 06:38 AM
Milos is on court, and, just like Frank last night, right on time for me to go to sleep :(

Well, I'm awake, but I have to leave soon.. I will probably miss most of the match too :(

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 06:43 AM
Here we go, first break opportunity of the match for Milos

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 06:46 AM
Is there a stream for this match?

FormerRafaFan
01-18-2011, 06:51 AM
Is there a stream for this match?

Probabaly not, since they play on court 13..

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 06:57 AM
Darn, Milos is holding his own right now.

ibreak4coffee
01-18-2011, 06:57 AM
No stream that I can see. Milos getting closer on Phau's serve but nothing yet...

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 06:58 AM
It's looking like a first set tiebreaker

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 07:02 AM
Alright, no more predictive postings on here because all they seem to do is jinx the players.

ibreak4coffee
01-18-2011, 07:03 AM
Milos is totally going to lose...

(cue the reverse jinx)

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 07:10 AM
Nice win in that first set. I am scared to fall asleep because last time it happened was two years ago when Peter was leading Igor two sets to love and proceeded to lose the next three. Here's to hoping for good news tomorrow morning. Night guys.

Gonzil
01-18-2011, 07:38 AM
And 2nd set, 6-3, 11 aces, only 4 points lost on serve, 79% 1st serve in. Excellent!

ibreak4coffee
01-18-2011, 08:32 AM
:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

Milos wins 7-6 6-3 7-6. Last breaker was really tight - had a match point at 6-5 that he squandered, Phau came back to get a set point at 7-6 but Milos won both points on Phau's serve and sealed the deal.

Looks like Llodra might be up next - he's up on Chela now.

Regardless, a great day for Milos, and hopefully the start of a new era in Canadian tennis at the Grand Slams :)

156mphserve
01-18-2011, 08:38 AM
great result and great fight when he was down a sp on phau's serve but he saved it, minibroke again and served out the match, very nice to finish that in 3. Awesome for Milos to get his first GS victory

ShotmaKer
01-18-2011, 10:34 AM
So happy :D

He definitely could beat Llodra next round. Play big and keep his focus, Llodra is not gonna give much rhythm.

FormerRafaFan
01-18-2011, 12:22 PM
I'm so happy for Milos, and so proud of him too! First win in the MD of a GS! Not bad. He has done well here, no matter if he wins or loses his next match.. I wish him luck anyway :) It's obvious that this guy is going places:yeah:

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 01:06 PM
Good to wake up to the good news

misty1
01-18-2011, 01:07 PM
its a good win..maybe a little suprising that he only managed to break phau once

if i look at the fact that he needed 2 tiebreakers to beat phau and only managed to break him once then i cant see how he'll beat llodra.

llodra is 50x the player phau is and playing some great tennis so i dont see milos winning that

but good on him for getting his first grand slam win

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 01:30 PM
Maybe Phau was playing out of his mind on this serve, or Milos still needs alot of work on his RoS. Fact is he didn't give Phau anything on his serve and that is how you win matches, granted you still have to win the tie breakers. I think his next challenger is to start playing top 100 players regularly because he has shown us that he can beat them.

If I were him this year I would play only 250, try to qualify for a few 500's if the opportunity arose, of course try the GS's and the high level challengers (100k +). I know he will play in Reunion Island next week but do you guys think he will make the trip now with this win?

Oh, I wanted to check the score before coming here and I just have to say that the five bowing emoticons at the top of this page were a dead giveaway. I was really pleased when I saw them. This could be start of something great. Defenitely top 100 this year for sure. This win will get him up around 132.

GasquetGulbis
01-18-2011, 01:33 PM
Well lets consider that a ton of Llodra's points are coming from the Paris Masters that were on ridiculously fast courts, whereas the Australian Open is always played on slow hard court, so that may play into Raonic's hand. But his return is going to be really important because Llodra will be serve-and-volleying, and the serve will sit up a bit, so he has to take advantage of that.

misty1
01-18-2011, 02:15 PM
i've never really thought of phau as a monster on serve but that could be true, he could have been playing out of his mind..i cant tell

i agree the return of serve is key but i dont think its good enough yet.

we'll see if im wrong, im wrong

Snowwy
01-18-2011, 03:59 PM
Interestingly Llodra only has 3 lifetime wins at the AO

AO 2000 over Gaudio
AO 2010 over Roger-Vasselin
AO 2011 over Chela

ibreak4coffee
01-18-2011, 04:12 PM
Well one thing Milos certainly doesn't lack is confidence

http://www.lovemeansnothing.ca/node/757

"Thursday’s second round, Raonic plays Michael Llodra, the French serve-and-volley stylist. Prior to knowing who would win between Llodra and Juan Ignacio Chela, Raonic said about the potential match-up, “I feel that I have more weapons than either of them. So I feel I can impose my game on either one more so than they can impose theirs on me. I know Llodra likes to play quick but I know, if I hit hard, I can keep him away from the net.”

FormerRafaFan
01-18-2011, 05:55 PM
Well one thing Milos certainly doesn't lack is confidence

http://www.lovemeansnothing.ca/node/757

"Thursday’s second round, Raonic plays Michael Llodra, the French serve-and-volley stylist. Prior to knowing who would win between Llodra and Juan Ignacio Chela, Raonic said about the potential match-up, “I feel that I have more weapons than either of them. So I feel I can impose my game on either one more so than they can impose theirs on me. I know Llodra likes to play quick but I know, if I hit hard, I can keep him away from the net.”

Well, seems like he has confidence and a game plan. I hope that together with his strong serve and his mental strength will make him the winner! :)

misty1
01-18-2011, 07:08 PM
Well one thing Milos certainly doesn't lack is confidence

http://www.lovemeansnothing.ca/node/757

"Thursday’s second round, Raonic plays Michael Llodra, the French serve-and-volley stylist. Prior to knowing who would win between Llodra and Juan Ignacio Chela, Raonic said about the potential match-up, “I feel that I have more weapons than either of them. So I feel I can impose my game on either one more so than they can impose theirs on me. I know Llodra likes to play quick but I know, if I hit hard, I can keep him away from the net.”

WOW confidence and lots of it

delusional in thinking that he has more weapons then either chela or llodra though

and yes he can hit hard but llodra has faced better hard hitters than him like isner and soderling and he still manages to get to the net

i want him to be confident but come on

misty1
01-18-2011, 09:03 PM
i want to make it c lear im not saying its a bad thing he has condifence. Even if i dont agree with him in his thinking that he'll beat llodra i wouldnt have said anything because i certainly dont expect him to go in with the thought of only giving a good match.
Plus everyone knows how i feel about now

but to say he has more weapons than llodra and chela is just not true. A guy who's game is still developing doesnt have more to compete with then veterans like them. Same thing with thinking he can hit llodra off the court..when he's beaten bigger, better and stronger hittersw then milos.

Emeraldhands
01-18-2011, 09:29 PM
I think it's good for his confidence saying that he is superior than his opponent. I think you should always be in the mindset of thinking that you are better than your opponents even if you might not be. If Milos were to beat Llodra I think he is going to withdraw from Reunion Island because that tournament starts on Monday and he would play on Saturday. I think he will try to qualify for the 250 in South Africa and that starts on Friday so I don't really see him playing in Reunion Island next week.

misty1
01-18-2011, 09:40 PM
i dont know..to me it just doesnt come off sounding good. I dont know to many other players that have flat out stated such things before a match anyway..

to me it just is better to go in thinking"i am talented, i belong and i can win this"

other than flat out" im better than this guy"

for me having a feeling of confidence and a feeling of superiorty are 2 different things.

FormerRafaFan
01-18-2011, 09:45 PM
i want to make it c lear im not saying its a bad thing he has condifence. Even if i dont agree with him in his thinking that he'll beat llodra i wouldnt have said anything because i certainly dont expect him to go in with the thought of only giving a good match.
Plus everyone knows how i feel about now

but to say he has more weapons than llodra and chela is just not true. A guy who's game is still developing doesnt have more to compete with then veterans like them. Same thing with thinking he can hit llodra off the court..when he's beaten bigger, better and stronger hittersw then milos.

Maybe he was exaggerating a little bit. But I still think it's nice to see he's got confidence. I'd rather see him too confident than believing he's going to lose the match before even having played. I'd rather he lose knowing he's done his best, and we all know how important confidence is in this sport. Just look at Verdasco, he lost confidence in himself, and he didn't win any matches for months!

ibreak4coffee
01-18-2011, 09:46 PM
i dont know..to me it just doesnt come off sounding good

to me it just is better to go in thinking"i am talented, i belong and i can win this"

other than flat out" im better than this guy"

The only guy that can help Milos win once a match starts is Milos. If his confidence isn't there, then well this isn't hockey where you can shy away from the spotlight and let your linemates carry you... and yes he's not as COMPLETE a player as Llodra (or Chela), but its not like Llodra is a consistent threat at slams. He's around the 25-50 level and those guys are always ripe for an upset at a major.

And with Dimitrov, Tomic, and Berankis all coming of age at the same time as Milos, Milos will need a healthy dose of confidence to keep up with that crew - two of whom already consider themselves GOAT's.

FormerRafaFan
01-18-2011, 09:51 PM
i dont know..to me it just doesnt come off sounding good. I dont know to many other players that have flat out stated such things before a match anyway..

to me it just is better to go in thinking"i am talented, i belong and i can win this"

other than flat out" im better than this guy"

for me having a feeling of confidence and a feeling of superiorty are 2 different things.

Hmm, maybe the progress he's made these last few months have gone to his head a little. I don't see it as superiority though, more like very confident. Besides, I don't really care what he says as long as he goes into the match knowing he can win it. I think that's important. I also hope he's trying to do his best of course.

misty1
01-18-2011, 09:57 PM
The only guy that can help Milos win once a match starts is Milos. If his confidence isn't there, then well this isn't hockey where you can shy away from the spotlight and let your linemates carry you... and yes he's not as COMPLETE a player as Llodra (or Chela), but its not like Llodra is a consistent threat at slams. He's around the 25-50 level and those guys are always ripe for an upset at a major.

And with Dimitrov, Tomic, and Berankis all coming of age at the same time as Milos, Milos will need a healthy dose of confidence to keep up with that crew - two of whom already consider themselves GOAT's.

i expect llodra to start doing better at slams..atleast a bit, now that he has amelie..he would have made the US QF last year if he didnt get sick

but points taken

GasquetGulbis
01-18-2011, 10:09 PM
I think Llodra will do decent at Wimbledon and the US Open, but the other courts don't suit his game at all. 360 of his points he got from Paris which in my opinion was the fastest hard court last year, and then winning Eastbourne was big, but again that's on grass, the only surface that really sees the return of serve and volleying fully. Marseille on the indoor hardcourts was all pretty quick, not to mention in France. That's well over half his points from those 3 quick courts, whereas Australia is playing ridiculously slow, and will not benefit him. I didn't watch his match, but I can't imagine he'll be doing a lot of serve-and-volleying because of how slow these courts are. I'd say on regular Hard Courts or Grass, and probably clay too (because Raonic doesn't move too well), Llodra will win in straights against Raonic, but down in Australia, I give Raonic a shot at it.

ShotmaKer
01-18-2011, 10:21 PM
Well I think this really could go either way. I agree with people stating that the surface will not benefit Llodra's game that much. But he still has the experience for him. Besides he's not the kind of player you play every other week, and he does not give too much rhythm which often proves bothering for his opponents. That said, Milos definitely has a shot if he can keep his focus, comes out with a good gameplan and believe he can snatch the W. I think both will come at the net a lot.

RogerExpress
01-18-2011, 10:30 PM
The first thing you have to do to be better than a player is believe you can be better, it's so important he shows confidence in himself, but one thing is think you're better and other different is to say it. I agree with Misty respect the difference between confidence and superiority, maybe right now he can beat a Top 40 player like Llodra or Chela, and is very important he has that feeling, but beating a Top 40 player is not the same that be a Top 40 player, and he has to realise he needs to improve a lot to reach that goal

Speaking about the match I think (hope I'm wrong) it will be for Llodra in 3, is a lot more experienced, showed a good level against Chela, and if Milos had problems to break Phau's serve I can't see how he can do it on Llodra's.

Blarghman
01-18-2011, 11:30 PM
Milos :woohoo: Thrilled to see him get his first GS MD win.

Llodra will be a tougher match, of course, but if you have to play an AO seed, playing a guy who you've beaten already, and who's never gotten to round three in Australia isn't a bad matchup. He'll need to keep firing on serve, given that he likely won't do a whole lot in his return game, but if he can get the match to a few TBs, he's certainly got a shot.

It's good that he has confidence, and believes that he can impose his game on other guys. Maybe he has a bit too much confidence (really, it's hard to tell from one quote though), but he's gotta believe that he belongs at the same level as guys like Chela and Llodra if he wants to beat them.

Plus, Grigor already beat Llodra in 2010, so if he wants to keep up with his generation, he's gotta win :p

Blarghman
01-19-2011, 05:13 AM
Milos gets a morning match :cool: He'll be up at 7 pm Eastern on court 3, which will be streaming.

Snowwy
01-19-2011, 05:17 AM
Cant wait to watch. :)

GasquetGulbis
01-19-2011, 05:41 AM
That's the only Mens Singles match playing at that time, other than Dolgopolov-Becker... very peculiar, but I'll probably miss it unless it goes over 2.5 hours.

Emeraldhands
01-19-2011, 06:06 AM
Same here because I am working, never getting any luck with these matches.
I have this funny feeling that Milos is going to have problems in this one, because he seems to struggle when he faces opponenets that play the same style he does.

misty1
01-19-2011, 01:07 PM
here's something he might struggle with:

apparently its supposed to start getting hot tommorrow

not only will that be tough on milos but it'll speed the courts up, which will be much to llodra's liking

156mphserve
01-19-2011, 05:53 PM
if the courts speed up it'll help Milos' serve too though. Honestly I'm thinking the match will be close, I think Milos will hold for the most part if the good Milos comes out to play, and the match will be decided on a few big points(break point/tiebreaks, etc). Hopefully He can play well in those points:D

FormerRafaFan
01-19-2011, 11:07 PM
I hope Milos wins. However, I really doubt he will. I think the outcome is inevitable, and I pick Llodra to win in 3. I do hope I'm wrong though..

I wish Milos good luck anyway though:yeah: Would be awesome to see Milos pull an upset:D

ibreak4coffee
01-19-2011, 11:22 PM
Taking a cue from my post at 6-6 in the first set on Tuesday...

Milos is totally going to lose today

(;))

GasquetGulbis
01-20-2011, 12:07 AM
I'm gonna take Raonic in 4 sets. Something like 6-3, 6-7, 7-6, 6-4

cath777
01-20-2011, 12:20 AM
Live stream for anyone looking...

http://www.fromsport.com/v-0/16/48/v-164961.html

Minn
01-20-2011, 12:23 AM
There's some on http://www.livescorehunter.com/Livescores/Livescore-Tennis.html too.

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 01:08 AM
Milos :yeah: His serve is on fire :cool:

The only question is how long he can keep this level. 32 winners in the set to 8 UEs

cath777
01-20-2011, 01:11 AM
Great to see Milos take the first set :yeah:

156mphserve
01-20-2011, 01:13 AM
he's playing fantastic:worship:

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 01:39 AM
Milos :yeah: Serving for the second set.

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 01:41 AM
Milos 20/21 on serve in the second :eek:

One more set of that, please :yeah:

cath777
01-20-2011, 01:42 AM
Looking great, Milos :yeah:

d_s
01-20-2011, 01:42 AM
Milos is playing sooooo well :eek:
9 winners and 2 UEs for the set :eek: :eek:

Gonzil
01-20-2011, 01:44 AM
Llodra has been looking very dejected since the beginning of the 2nd set. I wonder if he is in pain. Or it's just that he doesn't mind showing that he would rather be somewhere else than being beaten by a young kid.

Elaka Farmor
01-20-2011, 01:47 AM
First time I see Raonic in action, his game is very impressive!:) Top 30 this year?!

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 01:48 AM
Breaks to open the set :yeah:

Now time for the killer instinct. Llodra looks ready to go home, Milos has just gotta keep it together.

valexie03
01-20-2011, 01:53 AM
Whatever the final result, I have to say :worship::worship::worship::worship::worship: :hatoff::hatoff::hatoff::hatoff: etc.

cath777
01-20-2011, 01:55 AM
Agreed, Blarghman. Hope he can keep the mental edge.

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 02:11 AM
Bullshit call, Llodra is such a jackass. Embarrassement to the sport.

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 02:16 AM
C'mon Milos! Damn, I'm really nervous about this match now :scared:

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 02:21 AM
You watching Blarghamn?

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 02:25 AM
You watching Blarghamn?

Yeah :) I should probably be doing work, so hopefully Milos will finish this off in the TB :cool:

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 02:26 AM
Big TB here.

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 02:28 AM
The big guy sure can move, what a play.

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 02:32 AM
MP Milos. C'mon, finish it :yeah:

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 02:33 AM
Milos :worship: :worship: :worship:

Incredible stuff.

cath777
01-20-2011, 02:34 AM
Milos :worship:

big_j_tennis
01-20-2011, 02:34 AM
huge win!

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 02:35 AM
It's been 10 years since a Canadian has been to R3 in a GS. And Milos just barely turned 20. It's incredible to see how far he's come since March, when I remember him winning those futures events in Korea.

Minn
01-20-2011, 02:36 AM
It's been 10 years since a Canadian has been to R3 in a GS. And Milos just barely turned 20. It's incredible to see how far he's come since March, when I remember him winning those futures events in Korea. Nice.

What a great result!

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 02:36 AM
Great win today. Milos is a thorn in Llodra's side, now 5-0 in sets

Gonzil
01-20-2011, 02:38 AM
Well, guys, how many of us expected him to win in straights! Really impressive stats - when you think how he was struggling on second serve in the qualies.

It seems like he is a guy that knows how to step up when he is on the big stage, which is very promising.

takuma
01-20-2011, 02:38 AM
Oh Milos!Fantastic result, congrats! :hatoff:
(I have to confess I did not believe he could go on like this for the whole match, been waiting for the moment when he cracks - but it never happened!)

kyle751
01-20-2011, 02:40 AM
Milos played awesome his movement and his ground game have really improved since last year, now he'll get the winner of Youzhny/Kavcic.

156mphserve
01-20-2011, 02:40 AM
So Excited for Milos, what an amazing result, Youzhny or Kavcic next:yeah:

(C'Mon Kavcic):p

d_s
01-20-2011, 02:42 AM
Milos :worship:
Very impressive composure from him to recover after losing his serve in that 3rd set.

Gonzil
01-20-2011, 02:50 AM
Nice tweet from Opencourt:

"Mr. Big Time, Milos Raonic gets the big interview room after his impressive victory over Mika le moins-Magnifique ;-)"

GasquetGulbis
01-20-2011, 02:51 AM
So by my count the last time a Canadian man made the 3rd round of a Grand Slam in singles was Daniel Nestor at the Australian Open in 2001. This is a nice 10 year anniversary gift for us.

d_s
01-20-2011, 02:55 AM
Milos now tied for 1st with Karlovic for most aces at 48 and also has the fastest serve of the tournament so far at 230 km/h. Wow.

Emeraldhands
01-20-2011, 03:02 AM
As Joe Rogan would say WOW!!! (picture that voice in your head). LOL
I can't believe what just happened today. Youngest guy left in the draw after Tomic right?
His game is crazy and just to think that was his fifth match of the week is really impressive, surely he is pulling out of reunion island now!

Congrats Milos, and good luck in the next round, we are all proud of you no matter the results moving on.

cath777
01-20-2011, 03:02 AM
So by my count the last time a Canadian man made the 3rd round of a Grand Slam in singles was Daniel Nestor at the Australian Open in 2001. This is a nice 10 year anniversary gift for us.

Hopefully it isn't another 10 years before it happens again ;)

GasquetGulbis
01-20-2011, 03:06 AM
Hopefully it isn't another 10 years before it happens again ;)

I'm thinking Raonic will be hanging around the 2nd or 3rd round for the Grand Slams for a while, maybe deeper.

cath777
01-20-2011, 03:09 AM
I'm thinking Raonic will be hanging around the 2nd or 3rd round for the Grand Slams for a while, maybe deeper.

I'm expecting great things from him. Any thoughts on Niemeyer as a coach?

stzenit
01-20-2011, 03:13 AM
If Youzhny wins i am a little worried about this Raonic guy, how is he from the back of the court i have never had the pleasure of watching the Montenegrin.

edit.. Youzhny has been broken in the Third i think i jinxed him without realizing..

ibreak4coffee
01-20-2011, 03:14 AM
Milos :worship::worship::worship:

I cant believe I missed this match to watch the Leafs lose 7-0 :mad:

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 03:21 AM
He should be ranked around 118 now.

Emeraldhands
01-20-2011, 03:25 AM
Who think he will make the main draw of the French?

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 03:26 AM
I'm expecting great things from him. Any thoughts on Niemeyer as a coach?

Niemeyer must have done an outstanding job last year to get Milos to where he is but he is no longer his coach, its Galo Blanco now, isn't it?

If Youzhny wins i am a little worried about this Raonic guy, how is he from the back of the court i have never had the pleasure of watching the Montenegrin.

edit.. Youzhny has been broken in the Third i think i jinxed him without realizing..

Raonic is actually decent from the back of the court but to beat a top 10 player after 5 matches at your second GS is a lot to ask for.

156mphserve
01-20-2011, 03:27 AM
Who think he will make the main draw of the French?

I think he'll be in directly by then:D

stzenit
01-20-2011, 03:32 AM
Raonic is actually decent from the back of the court but to beat a top 10 player after 5 matches at your second GS is a lot to ask for.
Thanks mate, I will go check him out if you guys want a report as I arrived in Australia yesterday :)

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 03:34 AM
Who think he will make the main draw of the French?

Only if he has a direct entry, which by then is very realistic.

cath777
01-20-2011, 03:34 AM
Niemeyer must have done an outstanding job last year to get Milos to where he is but he is no longer his coach, its Galo Blanco now, isn't it?



Raonic is actually decent from the back of the court but to beat a top 10 player after 5 matches at your second GS is a lot to ask for.

Thanks for the info. I googled and found the following article

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Tennis+Canadian+Milos+Raonic+getting+noticed+Austr alian+Open/4129081/story.html

MELBOURNE, Australia — While he’s not quite the sensation of this year’s Australian Open — at least not yet — Canadian Milos Raonic is definitely opening a few eyes.

It isn’t just the Canadians in the crowd who know what the product of Thornhill, Ont., is all about, total strangers are raving about his monster serve.

He has support from the Spanish contingent, friends and training partners picked up at his training base in Barcelona. He even had a gaggle of agents, including Ken Meyerson (who represents Andy Roddick) watching his final qualifying match over the weekend.

“I don’t really make any decisions without my parents; I’m not rushing into any decisions, any big life change. Everything’s talked about. I’ve been offered many different things, and sometimes it’s not the best thing for me,” Raonic said. “I feel I’m making a big impact, so it’s going to draw attention. But to me it doesn’t matter. I know that when I get the results, the attention will come.”

It’s heady stuff for a 20-year-old still ranked No. 152 in the world, who just won his first match in the main draw of a Grand Slam event on Tuesday.

“I’ve been getting great advice, even from other coaches,” Raonic said. “(David) Nalbandian’s coach says, ‘Keep at it, you have a very bright future. Just listen to Galo (Spanish coach Galo Blanco) and do the work.’ People are noticing it.”

Raonic said he doesn’t think people perceive him as a typical qualifier.

“Out of all of them, I think I’m one of the few people don’t want to play in the first round. And even compared to some of the guys in the main draw,” he said. “It’s one of the reasons why top players have been willing to train with me, because the level is there and I’m just trying to pick up the experience, learn new things, and show progress in my development with my tennis, my mental game, and my fitness.”

A year ago, Raonic was talking the talk. But he didn’t necessarily believe it.

After a slow start to 2010, retired player Fred Niemeyer, now a Tennis Canada coach, took Raonic under his wing. It made a huge difference.

Raonic said he would have loved to continue working with Niemeyer, who has a young family and didn’t want to commit to being on the road more than 15 weeks a year.

And so Tennis Canada put him together with Blanco, a former top-50 player from Spain who has great connections and who, Raonic says, has given him some tips — especially about playing best-of-five set matches, as he now must do in Grand Slams — that he had never heard from anyone before.

Raonic’s next opponent will be No. 22 seed Michael Llodra, a brilliant but oft-injured Frenchman whose lefty serve-and-volley game is a throwback to the golden era of tennis.

It’s a full-out attacking game that is hard to counter, and increasingly hard to produce in the era of huge hitters and powerful rackets.

They’ll play on Thursday.

Raonic isn’t worried.

“My serve, I can take care of, I don’t care who’s on the other side. I think I serve better than most, so I think I’ll have more chances on their serve than they will on mine,” he said. “I know Llodra likes to play quick. But I know that if I get behind the ball and hit hard, I know I can keep him away from the net.”

Raonic defeated Llodra 6-4, 7-6 in the second and final round of qualifying at the Rogers Cup in 2009. It was the first big splash for the kid, just 18 at the time.

But Llodra was coming off an injury suffered at Wimbledon that year, when he retired in the first set of a second-round match against Tommy Haas of Germany.

After beating Marco Chiudinelli in the first round of qualifying in Montreal, he remembers he absolutely couldn’t move the next day.

Llodra, 30, chucked Tuesday at what he referred to as the “insouciance” of youth, in the confident proclamations of his young opponent.

“I have a few weapons, too,” he said.

Montreal Gazette

smyles@montrealgazette.com
© Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette

I wonder what Llodra will say to the press now ;)

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 03:34 AM
Thanks mate, I will go check him out if you guys want a report as I arrived in Australia yesterday :)

That would be great.

Snowwy
01-20-2011, 04:06 AM
Blaz is up at break in the 4th set now after winning the third, the longer this match goes on the better.

Emeraldhands
01-20-2011, 04:39 AM
Blaz could be a bete noire of a match for Milos.

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 04:45 AM
Great to see Kavcic and Youzhny toiling out there in the Melbourne heat. Hopefully they'll stay out there a couple more hours :p

Emeraldhands
01-20-2011, 04:47 AM
Been watching ESPN and not even a mention yet of Milos

156mphserve
01-20-2011, 04:52 AM
Great to see Kavcic and Youzhny toiling out there in the Melbourne heat. Hopefully they'll stay out there a couple more hours :p

We need Isner/Mahut #2:p

Tire them out please:D

But give us Kavcic:yeah:

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 05:46 AM
Milos' interview, post match:

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2011-01-20/201101201295495237578.html


Q. What do you feel like this means for Canadian tennis?

MILOS RAONIC: That's actually big, because always I want to be able to give back. With the state of Canadian tennis, I feel like there's a lot I can give to that. This is, I'm hoping, going to have a big effect on it.

My presence and my voice will have more of a say, I feel, within the Canadian tennis. I hope to help the sport grow, so this isn't a big deal for us. We want this to be four times a year in each of the Grand Slams, we want to have this consistent level.

Q. How are you feeling physically after five matches? It was quite warm today. Your opponent looked like he was feeling it fairly early on. You're even a bigger guy than he is. How did you feel? How did the heat affect you?

MILOS RAONIC: I was very fortunate last year. It's a fortunate situation, not unfortunate, that I got hurt at the end of the year. I tore my pec. But this allowed me to start up the off season on November 15th.

So this gave me six weeks of very tough fitness. It's really paying off here. It's helping out. I'm really feeling no stress, no fatigue in my body. I'm feeling fresh day in and day out. I'm obviously doing the things I have to to recover: taking care of my body, making sure I don't get hurt.

But I feel I did put in the hours this off season that are shining right now in my game and in my fitness, so...

...

Q. If it is Youzhny, any thoughts about possibly playing him?

MILOS RAONIC: He's going to fight for every point and so am I. We're going to get out there. It's going to be a good match. I'm going to try the same: impose my game, try to dictate play more, try to go for my chances, really not have any regrets after my match.

I know if I do this, everything's going to come together. We'll see what happens.

ShotmaKer
01-20-2011, 11:22 AM
Milos :D

Am so happy right now.

madmax
01-20-2011, 11:43 AM
wouldn't it be amazing to see Raonic - Berankis match in a 4th round of a GS? Let's hope it happens then

156mphserve
01-20-2011, 11:56 AM
wouldn't it be amazing to see Raonic - Berankis match in a 4th round of a GS? Let's hope it happens then

was thinking the same thing, something I really wanna see:yeah:

ShotmaKer
01-20-2011, 11:58 AM
That'd be epic

FormerRafaFan
01-20-2011, 12:40 PM
Who think he will make the main draw of the French?

That would be nice :)

But does he even stand a chance at the French? Isn't he a clay mug like most of the north american players?

misty1
01-20-2011, 01:12 PM
yes, yes i know i was wrong..very nice win

my mouth waters at the thought of a clash of the future stars in the 4th round match

but im not looking past youzhny(even though he struggled against kjavcic of all people) or ferrer..since both of them are great returners of serve

but to see them in the 2nd week...greatness

RogerExpress
01-20-2011, 01:50 PM
This guy continue surprising me, served like a beast, his return was good, and kept it along 3 sets. When it seems Llodra could go back to the match (in third set when the french broke back Milos) Raonic didn't show nerves, continue playing like nothing was happened and won Tiebreak. Next Youzhny, I think it will be for the russian in 4, I'm hope I'm wrong like last match :p

Blarghman
01-20-2011, 02:49 PM
An excerpt from Tom Tebbutt's blog of Llodra's comments after:

http://www.lovemeansnothing.ca/node/765


Llodra offered no excuses later when he met with the French media. “I just came up against a guy today who was better than me,” he said. “He was really impressive on serve and on his follow-up shots as well. I expected a bit more of a décousu (loose) match from him. Except for the middle of the third set (a break in the eighth game), I didn’t have a single chance on his serve. He was serving at 220 (km/hr).

“He serves very, very well. When you play Isner or Karlovic, you know it’s going to be hell. But on top of the serve, he isn’t a manchot (a clutz). He has good shots from the back of the court. I didn’t return well enough to make him doubt himself.”

FormerRafaFan
01-20-2011, 02:53 PM
I liked what Milos said about Canadian tennis too:

Q. What do you feel like this means for Canadian tennis?

MILOS RAONIC: That's actually big, because always I want to be able to give back. With the state of Canadian tennis, I feel like there's a lot I can give to that. This is, I'm hoping, going to have a big effect on it.

My presence and my voice will have more of a say, I feel, within the Canadian tennis. I hope to help the sport grow, so this isn't a big deal for us. We want this to be four times a year in each of the Grand Slams, we want to have this consistent level.

Sombrerero loco
01-20-2011, 06:17 PM
raonic really played great tennis against llodra.he impressed me

FormerRafaFan
01-20-2011, 06:55 PM
Does anyone know where I can watch the highlights of the Llodra vs. Raonic match? Please.. I'm desperate, lol.

dancy_fan
01-20-2011, 08:20 PM
Nice win Milos and good luck in the next round!

Gonzil
01-21-2011, 12:05 AM
I don't know how you can see video, but Stephanie Myles has done a very amusing slideshow that captures the spirit of the match:

http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/opencourt/archive/2011/01/20/milos-drops-the-bomb-in-mika-photos.aspx

Snowwy
01-21-2011, 04:20 AM
From a blog of one of our MTF poster from Australia

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Of the early morning matches, I picked Michael Llodra’s match against Milos Raonic. Both are aggressive players in their own way, with Raonic being aggressive from the baseline and Llodra sneaking up into the net. This was a very efficient kind of tennis, a practical way of playing, to make it easier on the body. Short rallies, and consequently lots of breaks in between points. Less playing time, more walking time. Though I shouldn’t underestimate how tiring it is to serve-and-volley. Probably even more so, than baseline play.

In any case, the rallies were short here, and there were not many probing rallies. They liked to keep the ball away from the middle of the court, though Llodra would move around the ball with his slice and with less pace, whereas Raonic was much more explosive. I don’t know what to think of Raonic’s game. I can’t tell what level he is at either. He hits the ball hard, and if it works, it’s good. His winners count was significantly greater than Llodra’s, and I guess that’s what won him the match in the end. His movement is not that great, which is not that unusual since he’s a big guy.

I have seen Llodra play various matches, and I have to say I never find him all that successful with the serve-and-volley. Is it because he does it all the time and his percentages are lower, that it looks worse than someone who does it sometimes? I know his volleys are great, the record speaks for itself, but it doesn’t feel athletic to me. It’s more like he has good technique, good reach and consistently soft hands. Maybe his tennis works for others, but for me, I find it overly reliant on the serve. To win matches, he pretty much needs to serve well, to be able to hit easy volleys the majority of the time. I also found this match overly reliant on serve, so after one set, I headed off elsewhere.

Emeraldhands
01-21-2011, 04:26 AM
I guess all of us like the game Milos plays but I guess if you watch it, it is boring as hell

FormerRafaFan
01-21-2011, 07:34 AM
I don't know how you can see video, but Stephanie Myles has done a very amusing slideshow that captures the spirit of the match:

http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/opencourt/archive/2011/01/20/milos-drops-the-bomb-in-mika-photos.aspx


Thanks. I guess this will do for now until someone posts the video. I looked on Youtube, but nothing :( Which is quite unusual.. hope to see a video soon though.

ibreak4coffee
01-21-2011, 01:45 PM
Thanks. I guess this will do for now until someone posts the video. I looked on Youtube, but nothing :( Which is quite unusual.. hope to see a video soon though.

Stephanie Myles also posted a video of some of the match. Its on her blog.

FormerRafaFan
01-21-2011, 02:12 PM
Stephanie Myles also posted a video of some of the match. Its on her blog.

I thought I had seen every video of Milos on her Blog, but I missed the most important one! I'll check it out now though :)

BTW.. when is Milos playing tomorrow? 11 am?

GasquetGulbis
01-21-2011, 02:24 PM
I thought I had seen every video of Milos on her Blog, but I missed the most important one! I'll check it out now though :)

BTW.. when is Milos playing tomorrow? 11 am?

Ya, he's first on court 3.

Snowwy
01-21-2011, 03:16 PM
Nice, I will probably be able to watch at least part of that. :)

GasquetGulbis
01-21-2011, 03:28 PM
This is what Nick Bolleteri said of Milos.

-Raonic has an excellent serve motion and can crank it up to about 138 to 140 mph. He is only 21 years old and was 650 in the world not long ago. He is currently ranked 160th. In Tokyo he lost to Nadal 7-6, 6-4 but Nadal said to look out for this kid, he could be a top-ten player.
-He is a tall boy but hunches over with his shoulder. He must work on his posture because later in life this could be a problem.
He possesses huge kick on his 2nd serve, moves around well and hits a big forehand. He also has a solid two handed backhand with a very short, compact swing.
-Has a huge 1st serve and gets a high percentage in.
-Raonic is very calm and doesn’t exude many emotions on the court, but when the ball is in play the young kid is good and has a bright future.

Emeraldhands
01-21-2011, 04:21 PM
Nice comments but should maybe get his starts in line. 20, not 21 and it was 6-4, 6-4 if I recall

Keech
01-21-2011, 05:54 PM
Yes you can Milos! :) :worship:

156mphserve
01-21-2011, 06:26 PM
Milos' match will be live streamed on tsn.ca tonight.;)

Emeraldhands
01-21-2011, 06:38 PM
Nice, it's about time that he starts to get some recognition

Snowwy
01-21-2011, 07:01 PM
With a win tonight, Milos would enter the top 100.

valexie03
01-21-2011, 07:21 PM
With a win tonight, Milos would enter the top 100.

That would be absolutely fantastic! :cool:

FormerRafaFan
01-21-2011, 08:23 PM
This is what Nick Bolleteri said of Milos.

-Raonic has an excellent serve motion and can crank it up to about 138 to 140 mph. He is only 21 years old and was 650 in the world not long ago. He is currently ranked 160th. In Tokyo he lost to Nadal 7-6, 6-4 but Nadal said to look out for this kid, he could be a top-ten player.
-He is a tall boy but hunches over with his shoulder. He must work on his posture because later in life this could be a problem.
He possesses huge kick on his 2nd serve, moves around well and hits a big forehand. He also has a solid two handed backhand with a very short, compact swing.
-Has a huge 1st serve and gets a high percentage in.
-Raonic is very calm and doesn’t exude many emotions on the court, but when the ball is in play the young kid is good and has a bright future.

I agree with most of what he said. Though like the person over me said, he should get his stats right. The scoreline from the Nadal match and his age was wrong :P

Anyway.. I think his calmness on court is one of his main strentghs. He keeps cool and focused, and he seems very strong mentally. He wins most tiebreaks, and he doesn't fold under pressure at all. We all know how important it is to be focused and mentally strong in this sport. It's why Rafa is where he is today. He's had a lot of close matches which he won because he's so strong mentally. That is also one of the main problems with Peter imo. He gets too down on himself if he's down a break, and he just can't stay focused.. he's also lost many close matches.

The second thing is his movement. I think it's coming along. He certainly moved better now than a few months ago, I can definitely see an improvment, and his fitness seems better too. He needs to stay fit in order not to tire himself out in these best of 5 matches. He also should work a bit on ros. He's not returning serve well imo. I do see some improvments there too, better than what he did a few months ago. However, I think he should improve that further. Both movement and ROS are aspects he needs to work on imo.

Keech
01-21-2011, 08:40 PM
This is what Nick Bolleteri said of Milos.

-Raonic has an excellent serve motion and can crank it up to about 138 to 140 mph. He is only 21 years old and was 650 in the world not long ago. He is currently ranked 160th. In Tokyo he lost to Nadal 7-6, 6-4 but Nadal said to look out for this kid, he could be a top-ten player.
-He is a tall boy but hunches over with his shoulder. He must work on his posture because later in life this could be a problem.
He possesses huge kick on his 2nd serve, moves around well and hits a big forehand. He also has a solid two handed backhand with a very short, compact swing.
-Has a huge 1st serve and gets a high percentage in.
-Raonic is very calm and doesn’t exude many emotions on the court, but when the ball is in play the young kid is good and has a bright future.

Bolleteri also got Milos' ranking wrong. Milos is world no. 152 atm, not 160 :rolleyes: :)

Go Milos! :inlove:

Sapeod
01-21-2011, 08:43 PM
Hopefully, he beats Youzhny (sorry Mikhail) and gets into the top 100. 2011 is going to be a great year for Milos.

FormerRafaFan
01-21-2011, 09:37 PM
Bolleteri also got Milos' ranking wrong. Milos is world no. 152 atm, not 160 :rolleyes: :)

Go Milos! :inlove:

LOL.. he definitely needs to do more research before writing an article:help:

Gonzil
01-21-2011, 11:55 PM
Apparently Milos is getting a WC into the SAP Open (San José, Calif). Very nice!

Emeraldhands
01-21-2011, 11:57 PM
Alright the match is going to start in about 20 minutes. Here is to hoping he doesn't lay a stinker of a match, especially with everyone watching.
Time for someone to come in and put the reverse jinx on.

Emeraldhands
01-21-2011, 11:58 PM
Wow, already getting the love he deserves from the tournament directors

FormerRafaFan
01-22-2011, 12:01 AM
Apparently Milos is getting a WC into the SAP Open (San José, Calif). Very nice!

Good news! It's obvious that more and more people are noticing him :D

I think Youzhny will be too strong for him today, but I certainly hope I'm wrong! A win today would maybe land him in the Top 100. But you know what.. I'm not too worried. Because even if he loses today it won't take long before he gets the points he needs to get into the Top 100. He is in a really good form now and I hope he continues to play well:yeah:

And even if he loses today.. this has been an AMAZING run for him here in Australia. A qualifyier getting to R3 is not bad at all. And like I said, people are finally starting to noticing him, which is a good thing.

Anyway, GL to Milos today! Shouldn't take too long now for the match to start.

FormerRafaFan
01-22-2011, 12:04 AM
Alright the match is going to start in about 20 minutes. Here is to hoping he doesn't lay a stinker of a match, especially with everyone watching.
Time for someone to come in and put the reverse jinx on.

You know what.. I have a feeling Youzhny is going to crush him. I'm sorry, I certainly hope not, but I think he will. Youzhny is a WAY better player than Llodra, but well.. you never know.

And I'm pretty sure the people watching won't give him too hard of a time if he ends up losing. He is 20 years old. He is young, and he hasn't fully developed his game yet. It's unusal for him playing top players like Youzhny, and certainly playing best of 5. I'm sure people will understand him and not blame him if he ends up losing. Won't be long before his next win anyway, if he keeps up this good form ;)

Gonzil
01-22-2011, 12:12 AM
Fascinating to see how people are latching onto Raonic. I see the SAPOpen on their twitter feed are busy pumping him up:
http://twitter.com/#!/SAPOpenTennis

GasquetGulbis
01-22-2011, 12:18 AM
Btw I'm taking Raonic in four tonight, and I do infact have money on that match, so fingers crossed. I'm feeling Berankis will win his too.

Pirata.
01-22-2011, 12:21 AM
Good luck Milos :)

Been following him since I saw him play doubles against Rafa and Nole because I thought he looked talented and like someone to watch. So glad he's getting noticed :yeah:

Emeraldhands
01-22-2011, 12:22 AM
What...A...Forehand!!!

FormerRafaFan
01-22-2011, 12:24 AM
OMG.. they have started already:eek:

Blarghman
01-22-2011, 12:25 AM
Great to hear about Milos' wild card; good to see he's turning heads. That has the potential to give him a big rankings boost. :cool:

I think he'll give Youzhny a scare, but I don't think he'll maintain a high enough level over the 4/5 sets he'll probably need. I didn't think he'd beat Llodra, though, so hopefully my predicting stays at the same accuracy level. :)