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Open Era Ranking (April 22 1968-November 2010): an attempt

Echoes
11-30-2010, 10:39 PM
With my obsession to have everything in order, I've made an attempt at an Open Era ranking to date. It took a long time but just a few minutes everyday is not excessive.
It's only an attempt because so many tournaments are still missing from my archives, most particularly in the first 5 years of the era and exo tournaments in the 80's, or else it's very difficult to rate if they were ATP equivalents or Challenger equivalents and to know how big the draw was.

Here the players still active are in italics and the players from before the OE in bold (born in 1948 or before). You'll understand that these players cannot be rated at their true value. I'll soon come up with my point system. It's an evolutive system that takes into account the fact that the Australian Open was less prestigious in the late 70's and early 80's, for example.

(Dopers lose their points at the moment of their positive tests - e.g. Korda at Wimbledon 1998 - could have been stricter but I don't want to make ungrounded allegation)


Don't take it too seriously, it's just fun.


1 Ivan Lendl 586pts
2 Jimmy Connors 576
3 John McEnroe 477
4 Roger Federer 463
5 Pete Sampras 427
6 Andre Agassi 418,5
7 Björn Borg 353
8 Boris Becker 342,5
9 Stefan Edberg 326,5
10 Guillermo Vilas 295,5
11 Ilie Nastase 291
12 Rafael Nadal 287
13 Rod Laver 261
14 Mats Wilander 253
15 Arthur Ashe 224,5
16 Stan Smith 205,5
17 John Newcombe 200
18 Tom Okker 193,5
19 Andy Roddick 188
19 Michael Chang 188
21 Ken Rosewall 185,5
22 Lleyton Hewitt 183,5
23 Jim Courier 180
24 Yevgeni Kafelnikov 178,5
25 Manuel Orantes 174
26 Vitas Gerulaitis 165,5
27 Thomas Muster 162,5
28 Goran Ivanisevic 159,5
29 Novak Djokovic 144,5
30 Yannick Noah 137,5
31 Brian Gottfried 134,5
32 Raul Ramirez 125
32 Gustavo Kuerten 125
34 Andres Gomez 122
35 Michael Stich 119,5
36 Carlos Moya 119
37 Roscoe Tanner 117
38 Juan Carlos Ferrero 111
39 Eddie Dibbs 110
40 Marat Safin 106
41 Tony Roche 104,5
42 Wojtek Fibak 102,5
43 Nicolay Davydenko 101,5
44 Jan Kodes 99,5
44 Pat Rafter 99,5
46 Anders Jarryd 96
47 Sergi Bruguera 95,5
48 Richard Krajicek 94,5
48 Marcelo Rios 94,5
50 Harold Solomon 93
51 Miroslav Mecir 91,5
52 David Nalbandian 91
53 Tim Henman 90
54 Andy Murray 89,5
55 Alex Corretja 88,5
55 Emilio Sanchez 88,5
57 Jonas Björkman 81,5
58 Petr Korda 80,5
59 Gene Mayer 78,5
59 Johan Kriek 78,5
61 Todd Martin 76,5
61 Adriano Panatta 76,5
61 Wayne Ferreira 76,5
61 Brad Gilbert 76,5
64 Tomas Smid 75,5
66 Jose Luis Clerc 75
67 Henri Leconte 74,5
68 Thomas Enqvist 73,5
68 Jose Higueras 73,5
68 Tim Mayotte 73,5
71 Guy Forget 73
72 Fernando Gonzalez 72,5
73 Tommy Haas 71,5
74 Albert Costa 70,5
75 Marty Riessen 67,5
76 Pat Cash 66
77 Todd Woodbridge 65,5
78 Sébastien Grosjean 63,5
79 Bob Lutz 62
80 Sandy Mayer 61,5
81 Balazs Taroczy 61
82 Mark Philippoussis 60,5
83 Cédric Pioline 58,5
83 Greg Rusedski 58,5
83 Mark Woodforde 58,5
86 Kevin Curren 56,5
86 Andres Gimeno 56,5
88 Cliff Richey 56
88 Andrei Medvedev 56
88 Dick Stockton 56
91 Guillermo Coria 55
91 David Ferrer 55
91 John Alexander 55
94 Aaron Krickstein 54
95 Vijay Amritraj 53,5
96 Joachim Nyström 53
97 Victor Pecci sr 52,5
97 Eliot Teltscher 52,5
99 James Blake 51,5
99 Tommy Robredo 51,5
99 Alberto Berasategui 51,5

102 Mark Edmondson 51
102 Tom Gorman 51
102 Jaime Fillol sr 51
102 Ivan Ljubicic 51
106 Marc Rosset 50,5
106 Bob Hewitt 50,5
108 Magnus Gustafsson 49,5
108 Nicolas Kiefer 49,5
110 Brian Teacher 49
110 Peter Fleming 49
112 Robin Söderling 48,5
113 Karel Novacek 48
114 Thomas Johansson 47,5
115 Felix Mantilla 47
116 Cliff Drysdale 46,5
117 Roy Emerson 45
118 Juan Martin Del Potro 44,5
119 Magnus Norman 44
120 Andrei Chesnokov 43
120 Paul Haarhuis 43
120 Frew McMillan 43
123 Magnus Larsson 42
123 Jiri Novak 42
125 Gaston Gaudio 41,5
126 Roger Taylor 41
127 Sjeng Schalken 40
127 Fabrice Santoro 40
127 Guillermo Canas 40
130 Onny Parun 39,5
130 Peter McNamara 39,5
130 Corrado Barazzutti 39,5
130 Heinz Gunthardt 39,5
130 Jakob Hlasek 39,5
130 Clark Graebner 39,5
136 Jacco Eltingh 39
136 Mike Bryan 39
138 Mikhail Youzhny 38,5
138 Daniel Nestor 38,5
138 Martin Jaite 38,5
141 Alex Metreveli 38
141 Javier Sanchez 38
141 Bob Bryan 38
144 Tomas Berdych 37,5
144 Zeljko Franulovic 37,5
146 Jonas Svensson 36,5
147 Fred Stolle 36
147 Pancho Gonzales 36
149 Kim Warwick 35
149 Dominik Hrbaty 35
149 John Fitzgerald 35
149 Younes El Aynaoui 35
153 Radek Stepanek 34,5
153 Arnaud Clément 34,5
153 Nicolas Lapentti 34,5
153 Marc Cox 34,5
153 Max Mirnyi 34,5
158 Rainer Schuettler 34
158 Jimmy Arias 34
158 Mardy Fish 34
158 Kent Carlsson 34
158 Guillermo Perez-Roldan 34
158 Wally Masur 34
158 Phil Dent 34
165 Ramesh Krishnan 33,5
165 Scott Davis 33,5
167 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 32
167 Nikki Pilic 32
167 MaliVai Washington 32
170 Mario Ancic 31,5
170 Paolo Bertolucci 31,5
170 Byron Black 31,5
173 Richard Gasquet 31
173 Bill Scanlon 31
175 Karl Meiler 30,5
176 Karol Kucera 30
176 Hans Gildemeister 30
176 Marcos Baghdatis 30
176 Gael Monfils 30
180 David Wheaton 29,5
180 Sergio Casal 29,5
182 Tim Wilkison 29
182 Mark Knowles 29
184 Fernando Verdasco 28,5
184 Tim Gullikson 28,5
186 Sherwood Stewart 27,5
187 Henrik Sundström 27
187 Amos Mansdorf 27
187 Francisco Clavet 27
187 Leander Paes 27
191 Colin Dibley 26,5
191 Jan Siemerink 26,5
191 Michael Llodra 26,5
194 Martin Damm 25,5
194 Rick Leach 25,5
196 Alexander Volkov 25
196 Hank Pfister 25
196 Jaime Yzaga 25
196 Richey Reneberg 25
196 Mahesh Bhupathi 25


By nations (based on the top200 player ranking):

United States 4896
Australia 1726
Sweden 1566,5
Spain 1531,5
Czech Republic 994,5
Argentina 676,5
Germany 649
France 597,5
Switzerland 592,5
Russia 530,5
Netherlands 436,5
United Kingdom 313,5
Croatia 311,5
South Africa 301
Romania 291
Chile 249
Austria 162,5
Ecuador 156,5
Slovakia 191
Serbia 144,5
India 139
Mexico 125
Brazil 125
Canada 38,5
Cyprus 30
Bahamas 29
Israel 27
Peru 25

Sophocles
11-30-2010, 11:07 PM
I'll be interested to see your points system.

TennisOnWood
11-30-2010, 11:11 PM
Indeed

Pirata.
11-30-2010, 11:40 PM
Great list, nice to see some non-Fedal current guys in the top 50-60. Also interested in how you worked out the points. Cheers.

Echoes
12-01-2010, 05:46 PM
Thank you guys.

I'll start with the point system for the ATP Tour Era (1990 to date). That's the easiest. More stable era.

Grand Slam Tournament
Win 12pts
Final 6
Semi-Final 4
Quarter-Final 3

Doubles Win 1

Masters (Year-End)
Win 6
Final 3

ATP Champions Series (or Super 9/Masters 1000; I still use its first name because for me the Masters is the Year-End Champ.)
Win 4
Final 2
Semi-Final 2

ATP Tour + Exo**. Event
Win 2
Final 1

Non-Slam Doubles Win 0,5


** The list of exhibition events I've included and that were held in that period:

1968 1996 Beckenham Open
1983 1991 Antwerp European Community Championship
1990 WCT Tournament of Champions - Forest Hills
1990 1997 Hong Kong Marlboro Challenge
1990 1995 US Pro/Boston

Criteria for including Exhibition events:
-Classic Draws 16+
-8-man Round Robin + Semi-Final (and final)
These criteria also hold for ATP sanctioned tournaments but that doesn't concern that period because they were all valid. I've however had to remove older ATP-sanctioned tournaments.
For the older period I've added a third criteria, namely:
-8-man draws with all matches being best of 5 (like Dallas - WCT Finals)
And I've still included the Masters from 1982 to 1984 despite the reduced draws, because it's the Masters

My point system favours Grand Slam wins compared to the ATP system (but for the ATP 250).

Ratio GS/Masters is 0.5 for my system and 0.75 for the ATP
Ratio GS/Series is 0.33 for my system and 0.5 for the ATP
Ratio GS/ATP 500 is 0.167 for my system and 0.25 for the ATP
Ratio GS/ATP 250 is 0.167 for my system and 0.125 for the ATP
Ratio GS Win/GS Final is 0.5 for my system and 0.67 for the ATP


For the preceding era, it's basically the same structure. I just had to choose the right "Series" equivalent tournaments, with some adaptations based on the draws (Dallas), on the point deficit for some Grand Slam editions or lack of tournaments played.

Echoes
12-05-2010, 10:30 PM
So for the April 1968- End 1989, the system is based the one mentioned above but here are the slight adaptations:

Grand Slam adaptations

Roland Garros 1968 ; 1970-1972
Winner 10
Runner-Up 5
Semifinalists 3
Quarterfinalists 2
Doubles Winner 1

In 1968, some WCT players and others were not in, because of the events of "Mai '68" in Paris. From 1970 to 1972, NTL and/or WCT players were not allowed.

Wimbledon 1972
Winner 10
Runner-Up 5
Semifinalists 3
Quarterfinalists 2
Doubles Winner 1

Wimbledon 1973
Winner 6
Runner-Up 3
Semifinalists 2
Quarterfinalists 0
Doubles Winner 0,5

In 1972 WCT players were not allowed in Wimbledon. 1973 was the year of the dispute (The top80 boycotted the event but 3 players)

US Open 1971
Winner 10
Runner-Up 5
Semifinalists 3
Quarterfinalists 2
Doubles Winner 1

WCT players not in.

Australian Open 1970; 1983-1987
Winner 10
Runner-Up 5
Semifinalists 3
Quarterfinalists 2
Doubles Winner 1

Australian Open 1972-1982
Wimbledon 1973
Winner 6
Runner-Up 3
Semifinalists 2
Quarterfinalists 0
Doubles Winner 0,5

In 1970, NTL players didn't play because they and there boss thought the prize money was to low. From 1972 to 1985, the tournament was moved to December (last week of December in 1972/1976 and mid-December from 1977 to 1985). The field was a bit better in 1983 (Wilander in because of Davis Cup) and in 1988, has a 128-draw (and moved to Flinders Park). In 1968 it was still amateur.

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The "Series" equivalents

1968
Rome
Boston
Pacific SW
French Pro
Wembley
Queen's Club


Madison Square Garden (November)

The Madison Square Garden event is the one from Nov. 27 to Dec. 1 (many tournaments played in the Garden then) and it gathered together the 4 best NTL players and the 4 best WCT players. Some sort of a Masters equivalent.

Couldn't find 9 tournaments for that year as the OE started in the middle of it.

1969

Philadelphia
Johannesburg
Hamburg
Monte Carlo
Rome
Las Vegas
Pacific South West
Wembley
Stockholm
Madison Square Garden

The Garden event is the one in which Gimeno defeated Ashe in the final. 10 tournaments for that year because no Masters.

1970

Philadelphia
Las Vegas
Hamburg
Sydney
Monte Carlo
Rome
Pacific South West
Stockholm
Wembley

1971

Philadelphia
Hamburg
Monte Carlo
Rome
Pacific South West
Berkeley
WCT Finals
Stockholm
Wembley

1972 to 1975

Philadelphia
WCT Finals
Hamburg
Monte Carlo
Rome
Pacific South West
Stockholm
Wembley/London
Paris

1976

Philadelphia
WCT Finals
Hamburg
Dusseldorf
Rome
Indianapolis
Stockholm
Wembley
Paris

Monte Carlo was a 16-draw then.

1977

Philadelphia
WCT Finals
Hamburg
Nice
Rome
Indianapolis
Stockholm
Wembley
Paris

Same for Monte Carlo.

1978

Philadelphia
WCT Finals
Hamburg
Monte Carlo
Rome
Indianapolis
Stockholm
Tokyo indoor
Wembley

1979 to 1985

Philadelphia
WCT Finals
Hamburg
Monte Carlo
Rome
Canadian Open
Stockholm
Tokyo indoor
Wembley

1986

Philadelphia
WCT Finals
Boca West
Hamburg
Monte Carlo
Rome
Canadian Open
Stockholm
Tokyo indoor

1987

WCT Finals
Indian Wells
Key Biscayne
Hamburg
Monte Carlo
Rome
Canadian Open
Stockholm
Tokyo indoor

1988/1989

WCT Finals
Indian Wells
Key Biscayne
Hamburg
Monte Carlo
Rome
Canadian Open
Stockholm
Bercy



Adaptations for these tournaments

These are very personal and thus disputable adaptations but I feel strongly about some of them.

Johannesburg 1969
Winner 10
Runner-Up 5
Semifinalists 3
Quarterfinalists 2
Doubles Winner 1

I think that edition of Jo'burg is a real Grand Slam equivalent. 64-draw and best of 5 all the way, with top players in. In my opinion, better than the Australian Open. It was played on hard court. Laver defeated Okker in the final. Only dark note, Ashe was not allowed to come to Apartheid South Africa.

Sydney Dunlop Open 1970
Winner 6
Runner-Up 3
Semifinalists 2
Doubles Winner 0,5

Sometimes called the unofficial Australian Open, that year. Had a better field, I think, though the official AO wasn't bad. In 1971, this tournament would become the Australian Open.

Dallas - WCT Finals 1971-1989
Winner 6
Runner-Up 3

Points only for winners and runners-up as it was an 8-man draw. But best of 5 all the way. Some would argue that the last editions were not so big. Perhaps, I don't know.



Rome 1972-1973;1976-1979
Winner 6
Runner-Up 3
Semifinalists 2
Quarterfinalists 0
Doubles Winner 0,5

Slight adaptation meant to add up for the AO point deficit but it doesn't add up. I chose to upgrade Rome because of the 64-man draw without 1st round exemption and best of 5 Semis + Final. In 1974 and 1975, rather depleted field because of WTT, I think. So I chose for Philadelphia.

Philadelphia 1974-1975;1979
Winner 6
Runner-Up 3
Semifinalists 2
Doubles Winner 0,5

Philadelphia draws were annoying. In 1980 2nd seed McEnroe had to play a 1st round while unseeded players were 'bye'. Why?
Both Rome and Philadelphia were great in 1979. Couldn't chose. So point distribution is slightly bigger for that year.

Boca West/Key Biscayne 1986-1989
Winner 6
Runner-Up 3
Semifinalists 2
Doubles Winner 0,5

Some editions with Grand Slam format. 128 players for all.

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Two bonus events

Tennis Champions Classic 1970
Winner 6
Runner-Up 3
Semifinalists 2

Tennis Champions Classic 1971
Winner 10
Runner-Up 3

These two tournaments are added, which means that for these two years, there were more major tournaments than for the others but there were still less tournaments played overall and ... it's worth it.

Tennis Champions Classic was a league that spread over several months. There was an initial winner-take-all match early in the season and the winner would get the right to play another challenger later on in another "winner takes all". In the end, the four best players would qualify for semifinal berth.

In 1971, Rod Laver won all his "winner-takes-all" and tournament for a total 13 match wins in 2.5 months (almost a double GS equivalent but with rest days in between). Hence the point system is different from 1970.

Non ATP-Sanctioned events

Here's the list of the tournaments that you cannot find on atptennis.com and that I've included. The ones with an * are allegedly listed in the ATP Players Guide (can't check it out myself).

The system, for all unless previously mentioned otherwise, is

Winner: 2pts
Runner-up: 1pt
Doubles winner: 0.5 (if I have evidence that there was any).

Edit: Forgot to mention that the list is of course non-exhaustive !

1968 Madison Square Garden (November/December)
1968 Wembley Pro
1968 French Pro
1968 1996 Beckenham Open
1968 1972 Dublin
1968 1970 Bristol
1968 Merion
1969 Madison Square Garden
1969 1971 Johannesburg
1969 1970 Las Vegas
1969 Washington
1969 Fort Worth
1969 Los Angeles Pro
1969 Anaheim
1969 1971 Omaha
1969 Brussels
1969 Tokyo Series
1969 1970 San Juan
1970 Sydney Dunlop
1970 Vancouver
1970 Jacksonville
1970 Salisbury*
1970 Macon
1970 Brussels Indoor*
1970 Newport (UK)
1970 Eastbourne
1970 1971 Tennis Champions Classic
1970 Hoylake
1970 Dallas
1970 Auckland
1970 Royal Albert Hall
1970 Atlanta
1970 Melbourne
1970 Hampton
1970 Casablanca
1970 Hobart
1971 Madrid*
1973 Washington Indoor Equity Open*
1973 Sydney
1973 Palmetto
1974 Oslo Scandinavian Open
1974 Auckland
1975 San Juan
1977 1979 Rotterdam World Star/Holland Roxy Tennis Tournament
1979 Dorado Beach Puerto Rico*
1979 Little Rock*
1980 1981 Fréjus Carré d'As
1980 Dubai Golden Tennis Tournament
1980 1982 Melbourne Mazda Super Challenge
1981 1989 Challenge of Champions
1981 1984 Toronto Molson Light Challenge
1981 WCT Invitational - Salisbury*
1982 1983 North Miami Beach
1982 Manchester
1983 1991 Antwerp
1983 1989 Jericho Hamlet Cup
1986 Ede
1987 1989 Edinburgh
1988 1990 Chicago Volvo Tennis Tournament
1988 1989 Stuttgart Classic
1988 1989 Wirral, West Kirby
1990 WCT Tournament of Champions - Forest Hills
1990 1997 Hong Kong Marlboro Challenge
1990 1995 US Pro/Boston

(Thanks Voo and others who contributed to some of my threads on the history section, and hence helped me !)

Echoes
12-15-2010, 07:22 PM
Slight edit because I wanted to include the Chicago exo from 1988 to 1990.

Improvement for Mayotte, Lendl, Gilbert, Chang, Stewart and Leach.

V.H.
12-15-2010, 09:02 PM
1974 Oslo Scandinavian Open

Isn't it already included in the ATP website (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/Archive-Event-Calendar.aspx?t=2&y=1974)?

Echoes
12-16-2010, 03:12 PM
Actually two tournaments were held in Oslo in 1974.

The ATP sanctioned one was held in November and the one I was referring to was held in January/February (Jan. 28 - Feb. 3).

Borg def. Moore 2-6, 6-4, 6-4, 6-1 in the final.

ShotmaKer
12-23-2010, 10:52 PM
Did not see that thread. Great effort and interesting stuff mate.