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AgnRus
06-30-2011, 09:54 AM
I just hope he will be healthy....

AgnRus
07-08-2011, 09:13 PM
Lotto Men's Fall/Winter Soderling Tennis Crew

http://img.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/new_product/LMSTCFW-WBL-1.JPG

Lotto Men's Fall/Winter Bat Tennis Crew

http://img.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/new_product/LMFBACR-WBL-1.JPG

sunzhewyq
07-09-2011, 04:53 PM
1)Robin Soderling (SWE) bye
Igor Andreev (RUS) vs (q)
(WC)Andreas Vinciguerra (SWE) vs (q)
Julian Reister (GER) vs (8)Potito Starace (ITA)

(3)Tomas Berdych (CZE) bye
Teymuraz Gabashvili (RUS) vs (SE)Michael Yani (USA)
Julien Benneteau (FRA) vs Blaz Kavcic (SLO)
Carlos Berlocq (ARG) vs (6)Juan Monaco (ARG)

(7)Andrey Golubev (KAZ) vs Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo (ESP)
(WC)Michael Ryderstedt (SWE) vs Maximo Gonzalez (ARG)
(q) vs (q)
(4)Nicolas Almagro (ESP) bye

(5)Tommy Robredo (ESP) vs Filippo Volandri (ITA)
Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ) vs Andreas Haider-Maurer (AUT)
(WC)Christian Lindell (SWE) vs Pere Riba (ESP)
(2)David Ferrer (ESP) bye

AgnRus
07-10-2011, 11:47 AM
http://a.yfrog.com/img735/7296/nj5f.jpg

again Asics....

http://img.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/productimages/AMGR2BW.JPG

sunzhewyq
07-10-2011, 04:11 PM
http://a.yfrog.com/img735/7296/nj5f.jpg

again Asics....

http://img.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/productimages/AMGR2BW.JPG

:smooch:

MaxPower
07-16-2011, 10:00 PM
Next year he must be smarter with his schedule by playing less when he is out of shape/injured and try to play more when he is feeling great. No problem in skipping a tournament like he did with DC if it's done ahead of time so it's not a last minute thing.

Also no idea why he scheduled in Estoril and then got all those weeks of consecutive tennis all the way to RG. It's also a 250 and he knew he would play both Båstad and Stockholm later in the season anyway.

He has been in great shape around the time for Båstad many years in a row now. Should consider the Båstad+Hamburg combo instead for 2012 and take it a little easier in the spring season

sunzhewyq
07-17-2011, 05:26 PM
14.The forth title in 2011——bastad

Second Round Diego Junqueira W 6-0, 6-1
Quarterfinals Potito Starace (8) W 6-3, 6-4
Semifinals Tomas Berdych (3) W 6-1, 6-0
Final David Ferrer (2) W 6-2, 6-2

the first bagel in 2011...Great matches... the 10th title in career..

MaxPower
07-17-2011, 05:36 PM
Yes. The scary part is that he has had an excellent season with 4 titles and being 40-9 in matches yet has only 2120 points in the ATP race. He really should be in a better position than he is

Yet he joins the exclusive number of active players with 10 or more singles titles and he has many more good years left in him

67 – Roger Federer
46 – Rafael Nadal
30 – Andy Roddick
28 – Lleyton Hewitt
26 – Novak Djokovic
21 – Nikolay Davydenko
17 – Andy Murray
15 – Juan Carlos Ferrero
11 – David Ferrer, Fernando Gonzalez, David Nalbandian
10 – Nicolas Almagro, James Blake, Ivan Ljubicic, Tommy Robredo, Robin Soderling

henke007
07-18-2011, 10:23 AM
Lol mugro has won like 4 of the worst MM.s the last year or so...

Robin really needs to play more 500.s and less 250.s...

AgnRus
07-21-2011, 11:20 AM
http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/20110721/deportes/mas-deporte/sueco-soderling-estara-masters-201107211116.html

Exhibition in december? stupid :(

MaxPower
07-27-2011, 11:24 AM
http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/20110721/deportes/mas-deporte/sueco-soderling-estara-masters-201107211116.html

Exhibition in december? stupid :(

By then he has hopefully rested for quite some time anyway. Won't have any Davis Cup Final to play after the Tour Final (if he makes it!) that's for sure.

I think it's a good plan to keep in shape over Christmas with some exhibitions to build some confidence that the ball-hit is still there. I hope he does Brisbane in 2012 too because that forces him to go to Australia early and get accustomed to the climate.... but maybe the plan is to do exhibition in december and skip Brisbane early january. I wouldn't be surprised if he does that

AgnRus
07-27-2011, 12:02 PM
By then he has hopefully rested for quite some time anyway. Won't have any Davis Cup Final to play after the Tour Final (if he makes it!) that's for sure.

I think it's a good plan to keep in shape over Christmas with some exhibitions to build some confidence that the ball-hit is still there. I hope he does Brisbane in 2012 too because that forces him to go to Australia early and get accustomed to the climate.... but maybe the plan is to do exhibition in december and skip Brisbane early january. I wouldn't be surprised if he does that

I just hope he will not play in Abu Dhabi...

swedes_rule
07-27-2011, 09:48 PM
I hope he does Brisbane in 2012 too because that forces him to go to Australia early and get accustomed to the climate.... but maybe the plan is to do exhibition in december and skip Brisbane early january. I wouldn't be surprised if he does that



He has to come to Brisbane to keep me Happy!! :D hehe

sunzhewyq
08-04-2011, 07:09 AM
I think Robin could have changed his cloth sponsor.Because i cannot Robin's name on Lotto's Official site..but D.Ferrer and other players are still there.

AgnRus
08-04-2011, 08:42 AM
I've read in the Swedish press he has a contract with Lotto until the end of 2012...

http://www.sweuro.com/descpage-LMSTCFW.html

DanaKz
08-04-2011, 09:04 AM
But there is no Robin here indeed http://www.tennis.lottosport.com/en/fighters :eek:

minh
08-04-2011, 12:33 PM
Change cloth sponsor??? maybe new idea. But i cannot deny that Robin's outfits from Lotto sponsor looks so adorable :). It also brings Robin many great achievements. So, Robin should consider carefully before deciding to change cloth sponsor. Anyway, respect his decision.

AgnRus
08-04-2011, 12:43 PM
Change cloth sponsor??? maybe new idea. But i cannot deny that Robin's outfits from Lotto sponsor looks so adorable :). It also brings Robin many great achievements. So, Robin should consider carefully before deciding to change cloth sponsor. Anyway, respect his decision.

unfortunately Lotto shoes is crap :(

minh
08-04-2011, 01:53 PM
yes, i agree!!
Why Robin doesn't find a new private sponsor to provide him with good shoes like Adidas, not Lotto. To be honest, i like him ask to extend his clothing contract. Robin can find Adidas to sponsor shoes for him :D

DanaKz
08-04-2011, 02:19 PM
If he go to Adidas I am afraid they will dress him into adiPure line. This line was created for Gonsalez but due to Fernando's injury and slump they use Simon as a adiPure face, but I'm sure they are seeking someone with more brighter image...

But adiPure is so out of character for Robin.

So I hope i am mistaking. Of course he won't go to adidas or wear adiPure.

sunzhewyq
08-04-2011, 03:09 PM
actually,i think Nike is the best choice for him....Adidas used to be his sponsor and then robin changed to Lotto...
on the other hand, adidas shoes has good performance on hard-wearing but that is not what robin needed...considering his tendon,i think the soft sole one will be better...

Orka_n
08-05-2011, 12:46 AM
Personally I've found Asics shoes to be the best... Robin has trained with that before, hasn't he?

sunzhewyq
08-05-2011, 01:00 AM
Personally I've found Asics shoes to be the best... Robin has trained with that before, hasn't he?

yep,and another Swedish player M.Rydersdedt is alsoin Asics shoes..:p

AgnRus
08-05-2011, 02:12 AM
Robin OUT of Montreal.
wrist injury :sad:

by the way, he lost the 5th place in the ranking :(

minh
08-05-2011, 05:58 AM
Poor Robin :sad: I was waiting so long to see him on court, but....Hope he recover rapidly to return in Cincinnati

henke007
08-05-2011, 09:33 AM
I can't belive this is happening after these horrible weeks of tennis i have longed for Montreal with Robin in topform.

nalbyfan
08-05-2011, 01:32 PM
Is it the same wrist which bothered him several years ago ? I remember he came to Paris to see a specialist, it lokked damned serious. Hope he can play Cincy

MaxPower
08-05-2011, 01:38 PM
He needed these two tournaments and knowing Robin there is no way he withdrew if it wasn't pretty bad and risking further injury. With that in mind it's likely he might withdraw from Cincy too.

I'm starting to worry about reaching the WTF. He got 4 titles and a very solid W/L record but this bad luck with the Masters is screwing him over big time, especially when he will defend 1000p in Paris.

AgnRus
08-05-2011, 05:18 PM
Is it the same wrist which bothered him several years ago ?
No, this time it's right wrist, Robin injured his wrist at the gym during the exercise :mad:

Orka_n
08-05-2011, 06:46 PM
What a joke. :banghead: Just when he was gaining form, too. :sad:

sunzhewyq
08-06-2011, 01:23 AM
He needed these two tournaments and knowing Robin there is no way he withdrew if it wasn't pretty bad and risking further injury. With that in mind it's likely he might withdraw from Cincy too.

I'm starting to worry about reaching the WTF. He got 4 titles and a very solid W/L record but this bad luck with the Masters is screwing him over big time, especially when he will defend 1000p in Paris.

After saw your words,i am a little worried

No, this time it's right wrist, Robin injured his wrist at the gym during the exercise :mad:

Soooooooooooooooo stupid, just like Kim Clijsters injured her foot when she attended the wedding..

sunzhewyq
08-06-2011, 09:59 AM
Robin OUT of Montreal.
wrist injury :sad:

by the way, he lost the 5th place in the ranking :(

D.Ferrer doesn't play the Montreal..so robin will not lost his place???

MaxPower
08-06-2011, 11:38 AM
D.Ferrer doesn't play the Montreal..so robin will not lost his place???

well the difference was a bit over 100p and Ferrer only defended 10 while Sod defended 90 so he gains 80p on Soderling. They will be very close but I think Soderling will keep it for now.

The BIG PROBLEM is that Ferrer has a 1200p lead in the race, equal to a Slam Final.

It's going to be very hard for Soderling to keep #5 for the rest of the year. Needs a masters win or a slam SF/F for sure while Ferrer does bad in the same tournament.

It's not easy to make up for a 1000+p. Becomes like a matter of time before you are overtaken. Just like it was with #1 and #2 this year

MaxPower
08-06-2011, 11:41 AM
But yeah should say being 5,6,7 or 8 doesn't matter. You make the tour final, you are seeded 5-8 in the slams etc. It's dropping to 9 or lower that would be the real disaster and I don't think Soderling will!

nalbyfan
08-06-2011, 01:22 PM
Maybe he can play Cincy ?? Wait and see before beeing pessimist...

AgnRus
08-06-2011, 01:42 PM
D.Ferrer doesn't play the Montreal..so robin will not lost his place???

Rankings


now and next monday :

5 Soderling, Robin (SWE) 4,325
6 Ferrer, David (ESP) 4,210

after Montreal:

5 Soderling, Robin (SWE) 4,325 - 90(2010) = 4,235
6 Ferrer, David (ESP) 4,210 - 10 (2010)= 4,200

for Cincinnati Masters last year Ferrer has 10 points and Robin has 90 points, so ....

Will Robin and David play in Cincinnati? We'll see. But as MaxPower said, really, it's a matter of time, the advantage of David over Robin in the race more than 1200 points :(

minh
08-06-2011, 04:25 PM
I don't care about his ranking, but about his injury. Really worry about this. Ranking is really not important at that time because he can gain it if he plays well. Hopefully his health will be ok

henke007
08-07-2011, 10:11 AM
Doesn't matter if Robin is ranked 5 or 8 he still gets the worst draws.

AgnRus
08-09-2011, 09:07 AM
Fredrik Rosengren saying Robin going to play in Cincy. Robin trained with Johan Kareld on Monday. On Thursday or Friday, he travels to America.

DanaKz
08-09-2011, 10:31 AM
Phew

MaxPower
08-09-2011, 01:01 PM
Great news! Now we know for sure that the injury wasn't serious. Wrist injury + big player always makes me think about Del Potros injury so not something you want to hear.

Hopefully he can get a great draw in Cincy and with the rest of the top10 tired go in and do some major damage
=
more confidence and less pressure for USO

nalbyfan
08-09-2011, 01:32 PM
Happy he can play. Hope he can stay healthy

Orka_n
08-09-2011, 07:13 PM
Great news! Now we know for sure that the injury wasn't serious. Wrist injury + big player always makes me think about Del Potros injury so not something you want to hear.

Hopefully he can get a great draw in Cincy and with the rest of the top10 tired go in and do some major damage
=
more confidence and less pressure for USOAnd that is how you view things from the bright side. :lol: But yeah, in the best of worlds.

MaxPower
08-11-2011, 09:27 AM
ye I'm a bit sad having watched a few matches in Montreal. The court is fast and would have been amazing for Soderling with his current confidence. He could have won it for sure. Such a missed opportunity and the other top guys look so bad that they won't really tire themselves out for next week I'm afraid :)

sunzhewyq
08-11-2011, 11:07 AM
ye I'm a bit sad having watched a few matches in Montreal. The court is fast and would have been amazing for Soderling with his current confidence. He could have won it for sure. Such a missed opportunity and the other top guys look so bad that they won't really tire themselves out for next week I'm afraid :)

Sometimes,when Robin didn't play a tournament,there were always some surprises in it...but when he joined,the match turned out to be another one..no?

henke007
08-11-2011, 11:22 AM
Robin would offcourse have been in the other half anyway :o

Pls Gulbis take out Fish today :angel:

AgnRus
08-11-2011, 09:26 PM
Robin has withdrawn from Cincy...
I have no words....
:sad::sad::sad:

sunzhewyq
08-12-2011, 02:01 AM
Robin has withdrawn from Cincy...
I have no words....
:sad::sad::sad:

WHY??????????
i saw the entry list of cincy and robin's name wasnot on that....

AgnRus
08-12-2011, 02:50 AM
No official reason yet.
but I have no doubt it's a wrist injury :(

DanaKz
08-12-2011, 04:00 AM
fuck fuck fuck...

sunzhewyq
08-12-2011, 04:02 AM
Oh,sh*t....what a stupid man to play a 250 tournament and withdraw from two 1000s....

btw..he can use this two weeks to find a new cloth sponsor..or have a wedding with Jenni?:)

AgnRus
08-12-2011, 04:16 AM
Oh,sh*t....what a stupid man to play a 250 tournament and withdraw from two 1000s....

btw..he can use this two weeks to find a new cloth sponsor..or have a wedding with Jenni?:)

or celebrate his b-day.

but seriously he injured his wrist AFTER Bastad...

I'm beginning to doubt that Robin will play at US Open :(

sunzhewyq
08-12-2011, 04:29 AM
if he feels good,no matter which kind of activity he takes,it is good..

yep,we are all worried about his wrist....

no facebook,no twitter,no news...these make us feel anxious..

henke007
08-12-2011, 10:23 AM
This is just horrible. Robin could miss London i am afraid.

nalbyfan
08-12-2011, 12:44 PM
Hope he can play USO : it would be terrible to see him missing Master after such a good season's first part.
Get well soon Robin

MaxPower
08-12-2011, 01:16 PM
Yes just saw he wasn't in the entry list and went wtf. This is just awful. Especially if Rosengren had said he was going to play and everything. That can only mean that the wrist injury was more severe than expected or that he got a new injury/problem.

I don't know why his camp is so silent about this. I haven't seen him say anything to swedish media. Almost expecting that he holds a press conference soon saying he will do some surgery and take the rest of the season off :(

London is in major danger now. He had a fever and foot problem in Indian Wells/Miami, skipped MC and now this. Can't afford pretty much fucking up 5 out of 9 Masters. The 2 left he will defend QF and W :eek:

US OPEN ofc in major danger too now. Add that Berdych, Fish, Almagro, Wawrinka, Tsonga and more of the dangerous competitors for London all playing good. The court looking very fast (had been perfect for Robin) and the top4 looking rusty which means many points for top7-20

This is turning into a nightmare season

sunzhewyq
08-13-2011, 06:39 AM
lots of bad feelings are around me..........

AgnRus
08-13-2011, 02:33 PM
bad news, very bad :sad:

http://www.smp.se/sport/fidde-oroad-over-soderlings-skada%282897920%29.gm

sunzhewyq
08-13-2011, 05:33 PM
bad news, very bad :sad:

http://www.smp.se/sport/fidde-oroad-over-soderlings-skada%282897920%29.gm

OMG,T.T

Today is his birthday....can we have some good news???

AgnRus
08-13-2011, 05:40 PM
Today is his birthday....can we have some good news???

his birthday will tomorrow, not today.
but it does not change anything unfortunately...

sunzhewyq
08-13-2011, 05:54 PM
You just forgot that it is 14th Aug in China...

AgnRus
08-13-2011, 06:00 PM
You just forgot that it is 14th Aug in China...
ok

AgnRus
08-16-2011, 08:21 AM
Oh...
:sad:

http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2529123/skadan-kan-stoppa-soderling-i-us-open

I hope he'll take the right decision and will not play with pain.
Or maybe a miracle will happen and his wrist will be fine, but I almost don't believe it...

Get well soon Robin, we miss you so much...

AZ-12
08-16-2011, 09:00 AM
Translation of a few key sentences in the article that AgnRus linked to, for those of you who doesn't read swedish.

"The examination has shown that the ligamant is hurt, and Soderling has not been able to practice continuosly since the victory in Bastad." That was part of the general text, but the quotations below are due to Fidde Rosengren who was interviewed by expressen:

"Much speaks against a start in the US open"
"Last time Robin was on the court the wrist hurt."
"It is no meaning to start a Grand Slam if you are not fit"
"Robin must be going before the weekend if it should be worth going to New York. He must make a real test before we leave."

All in all, the chances for a start seems slim, and I definitely agree with AgnRus that he shouldn't take any risks.

swedes_rule
08-16-2011, 09:47 AM
:sad:

AgnRus
08-16-2011, 05:56 PM
http://www.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open-5/2011/har-kanske-kort-for-hart_sto2909794/story.shtml

MaxPower
08-17-2011, 01:58 AM
hmm bad news on bad news with a topping of bad news. Hope he had a nice birthday because he got a lot of catching up to do when he gets back this season.

Already down to 8th in the race. Probably even lower after Cincy. His nr5 is of course toast as well. If he can't play USO then he can likely forget about London.

As the article reminded he previously in the career missed 8 months with a wrist injury. Delpo missed pretty much a full season. I don't think it's that bad but if it is then it's the worst timing ever.

So unnecessary with an injury while strength training. But what can you do. Maybe he got a bit sloppy with the technique or the warm up because it's a big no no to injure the wrist weight lifting even doing "frivändningar"

Guess we know in just 3-4 days if he will play USO or not. Agree with Rosengren that if he can't even go to the US and practice next week it's no point.

henke007
08-17-2011, 11:16 AM
Well if he can count his 3rd 250 instead of his lowest 500 after he has played Beijing and Valencia then he is on 2370 P as of now in the Race. It depends alot how others do at the US OPEN from places 6-12 also..

If he can make some damage in 500.s in the autumn like Final 300 points thats almost as much as a 1/4 at the US OPEN..

Robin should have played W DC instead of hurting himself in the gym :sad:

AgnRus
08-17-2011, 12:27 PM
All players are periodically trains in the gym. It's just an accident, it happens sometimes :(

AZ-12
08-17-2011, 03:02 PM
From the description of Robin's injury, it seems to be a freak accident, just as AgnRus says. But maybe we haven't heard the whole story. From the Eurosport article linked to above, Robin's new coach Fidde Rosengren seems to be blaming the old one, or perhaps rather blaming Robin's over-ambition, I don't know. In the article he says among other things "Han har kört vansinnigt mycket under våren trots att han inte varit frisk och kry och det är klart att det kostar på" which roughly translates to "He has been working insanely much during the spring, in spite of not beeing fully healthy, and of course it takes its toll."

AgnRus
08-17-2011, 04:34 PM
Robin played since Indian Wells to Wimbledon(inclusive) with injuries non-stop, it's not a secret.:stupid:

Of course, Fredrik doesn't want this happen again. I think we all don't want.

sunzhewyq
08-17-2011, 05:13 PM
yep,when some players find the feeling of hitting the ball in matches,they always don't want to have a break at that time...

i hope robin's injury is not like Del-pro or Davydenko's,he has 27 already...it is not a young player and it needs a lot of time to recover...

what we can do is just praying and give encouraging words to him...

MaxPower
08-17-2011, 06:01 PM
yeah it was likely a freak accident. At the same time we have no idea what kind of weights he is using and if he sometimes packs on some extra weight or reps just because he is so ambitious.

As Henke said it was a BIG mistake to not capitalize on his excellent form after Båstad. Imagine if he had slotted a 500 in there like Hamburg, Washington (best option). Seeing the draws in those he would surely made SF or better. Then the race would look good now

Now it feels very sad seeing Fish, Tsonga and more capitalizing on the fast surfaces. Cincy for example would have suited Robin amazingly well. I seriously think he would have made at least 2 QFs and maybe a repeat of his 2010 Indian Wells+Miami double SF combo. In fact he could have won!

Only positive thing is that if he somehow manages to stay in the top8 by the end of the year then next season he won't defend much and that is surely more motivating than to be in lets say the Djokers shoes.

AgnRus
08-17-2011, 08:33 PM
I'm probably the only one who endorses the Robin's decision not to play in Hamburg and Washington.There is only 2 weeks between Bastad and Washington, and Robin needs a little rest and full preparation for the long hard court season (add here acclimatization - he would have to fly to another continent).Play in a row Washington + Montreal + Cincinnati on the eve of Slam - a real suicide, unless you're not going to leave these tournaments in 1-2 rounds.
Guys, are you remember his knee in Miami last year, when he made two Masters semi-finals in a row?

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy16/Soderling/3-5.jpg

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy16/Soderling/7-2.jpg

He almost could not move in the semifinal against Berdych and was forced to withdraw from Monte Carlo.
Robin cannot perform well a few tournaments in a row without compromising the health, his body can not withstand this load, we need to put up with it.He simply has to choose the right priorities.

Yes, and a separate "thanks" to Bastad,it's very inconvenient tournament in the calendar, but Robin wants to play it in any case :(

Jomp1
08-17-2011, 08:47 PM
Robin will have to think twice before putting Båstad into the calendar next season. Not sure how they'll construct the schedule, but there's gonna be some insane scheduling from French Open to US Open. FO, Wimby, Båstad, Two Masters tournaments, Olympics, USO. In 2008 they put the Masters tournaments in July, then Olympics, then USO. Considering Båstad is a mid-July tournament and on clay I have a hard time to see a valid schedule involving it.

Jomp1
08-17-2011, 11:24 PM
Good twitter news.

Wrist is getting better and hope to be ready for the Open. Thank you for your support and see you soon.

Orka_n
08-18-2011, 04:04 AM
Good twitter news.We were due for one of those.

Of course I want to see him play but he should only do it if he's confident he won't make the injury worse. And either way it'll be hard for him to go far at the Open. But he sure does need the points.

AgnRus
08-18-2011, 04:29 AM
nice to hear. hope really he gets better.

sunzhewyq
08-18-2011, 07:53 AM
nice to hear it .....robin has never let us down....

FlameOn
08-18-2011, 08:03 AM
Robin. :awww:

AZ-12
08-18-2011, 11:02 AM
Great to hear the good news from Robin. I think Robin should go to New York if he think there is a chance that the wrist is fully recovered by the time the tournament starts. It's not like he can't afford the ticket(s). Of course he shouldn't start with heavy practice sessions before the doctors think that it is safe. The consequence of such a strategy, unfortunately, will likely be that he looses in the first round due to lack of practice. But there is still a small chance that he can be lucky and survive the first one or two rounds with a favorable draw, and then he can slowly increase his level to become a bit of a threat. My point is that there is not so much too loose by just being at the right place. If he doesn´t spend the normal amount of hours practicing the week before the tournament, to reduce the strain on the wrist, I'm sure he and Jenny can find some things to do in New York.

henke007
08-18-2011, 02:39 PM
From a tactical point of view i think he should play and get his seeding so to speak and make sure Berdych is out of the top 8 :).

Jomp1
08-18-2011, 07:36 PM
From a tactical point of view i think he should play and get his seeding so to speak and make sure Berdych is out of the top 8 :).

Just winning two matches and lose to some mug in R3 would suffice as well. Some extra points to the race and getting a few matches.

MaxPower
08-19-2011, 10:36 AM
Robin is now down from his London Spot in the race. Berdych will be 180p ahead and El Mugro 150p ahead. So yeah he'd better play USO and reach R4 or so. Otherwise he might fall around 400p-500p behind most of the competition and that's hard to eat up with only 500s and 2 masters left. He can't add any extra from the 250 tournaments unlike some of the competition as well :eek:

Simon and Tsonga will both be only 40p behind Robin in the race too after Cincy. Monfils has caught up a lot also and must lose his QF today or it gets even closer.


Not to add any pressure or anything but QF or better in USO would be amazing and sadly also needed if he wants to be end the year in the top8

AgnRus
08-19-2011, 12:20 PM
Sorry, this is true :(
For various reasons, Robin has a poor performances in Masters and Slams this year and has only a small chance to go to London.

_Chaz
08-19-2011, 01:11 PM
Robin is now down from his London Spot in the race. Berdych will be 180p ahead and El Mugro 150p ahead. So yeah he'd better play USO and reach R4 or so. Otherwise he might fall around 400p-500p behind most of the competition and that's hard to eat up with only 500s and 2 masters left. He can't add any extra from the 250 tournaments unlike some of the competition as well :eek:

Simon and Tsonga will both be only 40p behind Robin in the race too after Cincy. Monfils has caught up a lot also and must lose his QF today or it gets even closer.


Not to add any pressure or anything but QF or better in USO would be amazing and sadly also needed if he wants to be end the year in the top8

I agree with you, but he hasn't lost his spot in the top 8 in the race atm. He has the same amount of points as Berdych (2120).

MaxPower
08-19-2011, 08:47 PM
I agree with you, but he hasn't lost his spot in the top 8 in the race atm. He has the same amount of points as Berdych (2120).

I might have checked wrong but he is still in the tournament. Can have 2940p if he wins :eek:

Can check the http://live-tennis.eu/race

AgnRus
08-19-2011, 10:23 PM
Berdych def. Federer, so Robin is 9th in the Race....

Seingeist
08-20-2011, 08:00 AM
Hope that he gets his spot back by WTF time, he really belongs there.

MaxPower
08-21-2011, 07:42 PM
Any news? I just want to hear he's gone over to US to practice but Robin is pretty bad at keeping his fans updated these days.

AgnRus
08-21-2011, 08:59 PM
Any news? I just want to hear he's gone over to US to practice but Robin is pretty bad at keeping his fans updated these days.

Last update from Fb :

Wrist is feeling better and better. Travelling to NY tomorrow.

:yeah:

MaxPower
08-21-2011, 10:24 PM
Last update from Fb :

Wrist is feeling better and better. Travelling to NY tomorrow.

:yeah:

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

I couldn't take another major tournament without Soderling. This break was good for his knees and feet. Meanwhile the top4 looks fatigued and got their own injury problems. No expectations and no pressure. Perfect chance for Robin!

AgnRus
08-22-2011, 04:42 AM
http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2535494/robin-soderling-kan-spela-us-open

sunzhewyq
08-22-2011, 05:04 AM
Road to London

01 Novak Djokovic (SRB) 11070 (--) (--)
02 Rafael Nadal (ESP) 7785 (45) (--)
03 Andy Murray (GBR) 4730 (--) (--)
04 Roger Federer (SUI) 4450 (--) (--)
05 David Ferrer (ESP) 3420 (150) (80)
06 Mardy Fish (USA) 2505 (150) (--)
07 Robin Soderling (SWE) 2370 (250) (--):)
08 Tomas Berdych (CZE) 2350 (90) (90)
-----------------------------------------------------------
09 Nicolas Almagro (ESP) 2270 (250)(180)
10 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) 2125 (45) (--)
-----------------------------------------------------------

AgnRus
08-22-2011, 05:50 AM
Road to London
01 Novak Djokovic (SRB) 11070 (--) (--)
02 Rafael Nadal (ESP) 7785 (45) (--)
03 Andy Murray (GBR) 4730 (--) (--)
04 Roger Federer (SUI) 4450 (--) (--)
05 David Ferrer (ESP) 3420 (150) (80)
06 Mardy Fish (USA) 2505 (150) (--)
07 Robin Soderling (SWE) 2370 (250) (--)
08 Tomas Berdych (CZE) 2350 (90) (90)
-----------------------------------------------------------
09 Nicolas Almagro (ESP) 2270 (250)(180)
10 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) 2125 (45) (--)

Here we have 3 x 250, but we do not know yet whether this will actually be. He was still a must-play Beijing and Valencia / Basel, besides, we don't know whether he complied with the required deadline for applications for all the tournaments 500 ( it's a necessary condition)

Now his third 250 is in the "Non-Countable Tournaments"
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Robin-Soderling.aspx?t=rb

Race without his third 250 is here :
http://live-tennis.eu/race

AgnRus
08-22-2011, 06:05 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=180522&page=97
#1443


Soderling has PLAYED 2 ATP 500s so far so he could reach 4 by the end of 2011

BUT

We do not know if he made the 12 week deadline so we can only speculate

The answer is that he COULD add the third ATP 250 in November IF he plays 2 more ATP 500s
AND he has entered the four events 12 weeks in advance


(Now you can understand why I have had to giveup the ranking updates !!!)

Jomp1
08-22-2011, 06:59 AM
You gotta be unsure whether he has entered Basel/Valencia 12 weeks in advance, because he's not on early commitments in any of them and Valencia has plenty of top guys confirmed already. He could be in Basel though, not a lot of updates about that tournament except that Roger will be there. Both those tournaments are in 10 weeks from now.

Anyway, it will be good to see him back. He'll have no pressure at all, just go in and hit the ball as good as possible. If he defends his seed he's back on track in the race.

MaxPower
08-22-2011, 07:47 PM
ah yes i almost forgot about the extra 250 he might be able to add. That will be his special ace to secure London. Aint that easy to cash in 250p even from a 500 or 1000.

I looked up Robins year end points in 2009 and 2010.

Ranking points, Slam points, Master 1000 points, other points, tournaments played.

2010
5 Soderling, Robin SWE 5580 1930 2180 1470 24

2009
8 Soderling, Robin SWE 3410 1785 535 1090 27

Think the tour final points are included there so probably should deduct 400p from 2009 and 200p from 2010. This year he seems to be heading for a slightly better year than 2009 but then he barely made the finals. Think it even was a withdrawal. Luckily for Robin the top4 and especially Djokovic has stolen most of the points this season so I think about 3200-3400 somewhere will be the 8th spot for London. Robin got a great shot at making around 3600-4000 still and maybe even more if he can do well in USO

Edit.

The most interesting part this season is that he only has 630 Slam points so far (so actually needs final in USO to match 2009 OR 2010 in slam points) and already 25 tournaments played. That means he has already played more tournaments than 2010 and doesn't even have half the points...

AgnRus
08-22-2011, 08:47 PM
.

The most interesting part this season is that he only has 630 Slam points so far (so actually needs final in USO to match 2009 OR 2010 in slam points) and already 25 tournaments played. That means he has already played more tournaments than 2010 and doesn't even have half the points...

Really? :eek:

Brisbane, Australian Open, Rotterdam, Marseille, Indian Wells, Miami, Barcelona,Estoril,Madrid,Rome,World Team Championship,Roland Garros,Wimbledon,Båstad = 14 + Davis Cup.:confused:

He played 25 tournaments in past 52 weeks (in addition, the official site of ATP includes in these 25 Cincinnati and Montreal,where he was absent), not in 2011 :secret:

Orka_n
08-22-2011, 10:55 PM
Really? :eek:

Brisbane, Australian Open, Rotterdam, Marseille, Indian Wells, Miami, Barcelona,Estoril,Madrid,Rome,World Team Championship,Roland Garros,Wimbledon,Båstad = 14 + Davis Cup.:confused:

He played 25 tournaments in past 52 weeks (in addition, the official site of ATP includes in these 25 Cincinnati and Montreal,where he was absent), not in 2011 :secret:Yes, that makes more sense.

MaxPower
08-22-2011, 10:58 PM
Really? :eek:

Brisbane, Australian Open, Rotterdam, Marseille, Indian Wells, Miami, Barcelona,Estoril,Madrid,Rome,World Team Championship,Roland Garros,Wimbledon,Båstad = 14 + Davis Cup.:confused:

He played 25 tournaments in past 52 weeks (in addition, the official site of ATP includes in these 25 Cincinnati and Montreal,where he was absent), not in 2011 :secret:

true. It's the 25 that made his current ranking even if only 18 of them count.

So 15 played for the 2120p in the race. Still awful compared to the top4

sunzhewyq
08-23-2011, 04:03 AM
Brisbane, Australian Open, Rotterdam, Marseille, Indian Wells, Miami, Barcelona,Estoril,Madrid,Rome,World Team Championship,Roland Garros,Wimbledon,Båstad = 14 + Davis Cup.:confused:



i am a little confused about this....what does "14+Davis Cup" mean?

which scores are made up of robin's 237007 Robin Soderling (SWE) 2370 (250) (--)??:confused::confused::confused:

AgnRus
08-23-2011, 04:58 AM
i am a little confused about this....what does "14+Davis Cup" mean?

which scores are made up of robin's 2370??:confused::confused::confused:

GS:

Roland Garros 360
Australian Open 180
Wimbledon 90

MS:

Indian Wells 45
Miami 45
Rome 180
Madrid 180
Cincinnati 0
Montreal 0

500:

Rotterdam 500
Davis Cup 40

Best of Other Countable Tournaments:

Båstad 250
Marseille 250

------
total 2120

but he COULD add the third ATP 250 instead of his worst 500 in November IF he plays 2 more ATP 500s (Beijing and Valencia / Basel, he has no right to withdraw if he wants to add 250)AND he has entered the four 500 events 12 weeks in advance (we don't know whether he is).

so that's too early to add 250 for Brisbane! (2120+250 = 2370)

AgnRus
08-23-2011, 05:03 AM
true. It's the 25 that made his current ranking even if only 18 of them count.

So 15 played for the 2120p in the race. Still awful compared to the top4

none SF in GS and MS, what can I say :(

He does not deserve ticket to London this year, obviously.
not deserve yet, but he has a chance

sunzhewyq
08-23-2011, 06:29 AM
GS:

500:

Rotterdam 500
Davis Cup 40



i found the reason why i cannot get that score....the points of Davis Cup on ATPwouldtour.com is 55,maybe contains the points of last year's(:confused:)

sunzhewyq
08-23-2011, 06:32 AM
none SF in GS and MS, what can I say :(

He does not deserve ticket to London this year, obviously.
not deserve yet, but he has a chance

but he has had 4 titles this year already,maybe more at the end of the year...:p

AgnRus
08-23-2011, 06:41 AM
but he has had 4 titles this year already,maybe more at the end of the year...:p

Mickey Mouse tournaments (as 3 of his 4) unfortunately do not compensate for failure in the most important tournaments :mad:

moreover, Robin's ambitions and capabilities is clearly higher than tournaments 250.

AgnRus
08-23-2011, 06:44 AM
the points of Davis Cup on ATPwouldtour.com is 55,maybe contains the points of last year's(:confused:)
yep

sunzhewyq
08-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Mickey Mouse tournaments (as 3 of his 4) unfortunately do not compensate for failure in the most important tournaments :mad:

moreover, Robin's ambitions and capabilities is clearly higher than tournaments 250.

Mickey Mouse tournament:lol:i know he has the ambitions to win a master or a GS title..but he just had less than ten titles in his career so far(if without 3 of his 4) ,which is not match him with a top 5 player...

P.S:To win a GS,you need some more luck than abilities..i think that is the reason andy murray didn't have a GS title :p

AgnRus
08-23-2011, 10:07 AM
P.S:To win a GS,you need some more luck than abilities..i think that is the reason andy murray didn't have a GS title :p

If Murray will win the Slam with his cowardly game, it will be a sad day for tennis :mad:. I really think he has ambition, but has no game to win the Slam.He must learn to take risks.
But some luck is needed for anyone who wants to win the Slam, I agree.

sunzhewyq
08-23-2011, 10:45 AM
If Murray will win the Slam with his cowardly game, it will be a sad day for tennis :mad:. I really think he has ambition, but has no game to win the Slam.He must learn to take risks.
But some luck is needed for anyone who wants to win the Slam, I agree.

:drool::p

MaxPower
08-24-2011, 01:51 AM
Looking back at Robins 2011 it was that very match against Dolgopolov that bugs me the most. Had he won that match he would have setup a QF with Murray which would be at least 50/50. Then as we know a semi with Ferrer which he would have won. Could have been a GS Final right there.

Still don't get that match. In R1+R2+R3 he was broken 2 times in total. Vs the Dog he was broken 8 times in the same match. He served like crap but wasn't injured. Strangest match he's done all year.


Anyway also easy to forget how close he was to going out in Rotterdam (Kohli had MP) and in the first round in Rome. (Verdasco had 40-0 serving for the match :eek:) Then he could if unlucky be down even more points.

I can't wait for the USO draw in a few days. Got a nagging feeling it's time for Murray now. If he gets Federer again for like the gazillionth time I'm on the rigged draw train

MaxPower
08-24-2011, 01:55 AM
But i probably want the Nadal quarter. I think he has looked worst of the top4 in the past month. Also would be nice if Berdych/Almagro or Tsonga/Fish is in the same quarter. So they take one of each other out in R4 :)

sunzhewyq
08-24-2011, 02:27 AM
actually,i don't think Fish is a easy oppoent,as we all known,he had a very good performance in the last few tournament but robin was out of them....

yes,nadal looked worst of the top 4,but last year,he was in the same situation like this and he won the GS....

Novak----nothing to say,he is so hooooot...

federer----not the best choice,he always control the match when he played with robin

murray----.....after winning a master title,what will he does?

sunzhewyq
08-24-2011, 06:47 AM
US Open Men's seed:

1.***** Novak Djokovic, Serbia
2.***** Rafael Nadal, Spain
3.***** Roger Federer, Switzerland
4.***** Andy Murray, Great Britain
5.***** David Ferrer, Spain
6.***** Robin Soderling, Sweden:)
7.***** Gael Monfils, France
8.***** Mardy Fish, United States
9.***** Tomas Berdych, Czech Republic
10.*** Nicolas Almagro, Spain
11.*** Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, France
12.*** Gilles Simon, France
13.*** Richard Gasquet, France
14.*** Stanislas Wawrinka, Switzerland
15.*** Viktor Troicki, Serbia
16.*** Mikhail Youzhny, Russia
17.*** Jurgen Melzer, Austria
18.*** Juan Martin Del Potro, Argentina
19.*** Fernando Verdasco, Spain
20.*** Janko Tipsarevic, Serbia
21.*** Andy Roddick, United States
22.*** Alexandr Dolgopolov, Ukraine
23.*** Radek Stepanek, Czech Republic
24.*** Juan Ignacio Chela, Argentina
25.*** Feliciano Lopez, Spain
26.*** Florian Mayer, Germany
27.*** Marin Cilic, Croatia
28.*** John Isner, United States
29.*** Michael Llodra, France
30.*** Ivan Ljubicic, Croatia
31.*** Marcel Granollers, Spain
32.*** Ivan Dodig, Croatia

AgnRus
08-24-2011, 09:36 AM
US Open Men's seed:

1.Djokovic, 2. Nadal, 3.Federer, 4. Murray,
5.Soderling:), 6.Ferrer, 7.Fish, 8.Monfils,
9.Berdych and 10.Tsonga

I think the men's seeding will be published today and Robin will be 6th seeded ;)

AgnRus
08-24-2011, 09:59 AM
But i probably want the Nadal quarter. I think he has looked worst of the top4 in the past month. Also would be nice if Berdych/Almagro or Tsonga/Fish is in the same quarter. So they take one of each other out in R4 :)

the last couple of years, if Robin gets a quarter of Federer or Nadal, he plays with them, but if he gets a quarter of Murray or Djokovic ( AO 2010, AO 2011, Wimbledon 2011)- game over, early exit.:smash:
so I don't know what to choose...:scared:

henke007
08-24-2011, 12:01 PM
I hope Robin gets Nadal's 1/4!!

AZ-12
08-24-2011, 01:49 PM
As pointed out above, none of the top four seeds is obviously better for Robin than the others. Although each of them have had their problems, if they make it to the quarters they will likely be ready to play some high quality tennis. That is what make it interesting to pick a list. The opponents I wish for Robin in the quarters are from best to worst, with brief motivations (where I have excluded the obvious choice that Robin's top 4 seeded opponent is ousted in an earlier round):

1) Nadal (A decent match-up, and his confidence might be a little hurt at the moment)

2) Murray (Has the least stable level of the top 4)

3) Federer (A really bad match-up, and he is very stable in the slams and has high confidence against Robin)

4) Djokovic (Has been outstanding for eight months, and if he makes it to the quarters, his recent injury problems are likely history)

sunzhewyq
08-24-2011, 03:27 PM
I think the men's seeding will be published today and Robin will be 6th seeded ;)

some guys published On twitter and it looks a media...:sad:

Orka_n
08-25-2011, 12:35 AM
some guys published On twitter and it looks a media...:sad:What does this mean?

sunzhewyq
08-25-2011, 12:36 AM
US Open Men's seed:

1.***** Novak Djokovic, Serbia
2.***** Rafael Nadal, Spain
3.***** Roger Federer, Switzerland
4.***** Andy Murray, Great Britain
5.***** David Ferrer, Spain
6.***** Robin Soderling, Sweden:)
7.***** Gael Monfils, France
8.***** Mardy Fish, United States
9.***** Tomas Berdych, Czech Republic
10.*** Nicolas Almagro, Spain
11.*** Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, France
12.*** Gilles Simon, France
13.*** Richard Gasquet, France
14.*** Stanislas Wawrinka, Switzerland
15.*** Viktor Troicki, Serbia
16.*** Mikhail Youzhny, Russia
17.*** Jurgen Melzer, Austria
18.*** Juan Martin Del Potro, Argentina
19.*** Fernando Verdasco, Spain
20.*** Janko Tipsarevic, Serbia
21.*** Andy Roddick, United States
22.*** Alexandr Dolgopolov, Ukraine
23.*** Radek Stepanek, Czech Republic
24.*** Juan Ignacio Chela, Argentina
25.*** Feliciano Lopez, Spain
26.*** Florian Mayer, Germany
27.*** Marin Cilic, Croatia
28.*** John Isner, United States
29.*** Michael Llodra, France
30.*** Ivan Ljubicic, Croatia
31.*** Marcel Granollers, Spain
32.*** Ivan Dodig, Croatia

updated....i think there is nothing difference between 5th seed and the 6th's.....May God bless Robin having a good draw..

sunzhewyq
08-25-2011, 12:45 AM
What does this mean?

i was misled by that content which some guys published on twitter。。。:sad:

MaxPower
08-25-2011, 07:21 AM
yeah the seeding is just the rankings as of Monday the week before USO.

The draw is just hours away now so the interesting part will be who of 5,6,7,8 that gets the nightmare draw and who gets the cakewalk draw. They all got equal chances ofc so yes 5 or 6 doesn't matter as of now

BUT if Ferrer gets a better draw than Soderling I will be mad. If Soderling however gets an easier draw than Ferrer it's all good. They pretty much switched spots in the last minute so we will see who gets lucky :)

AgnRus
08-25-2011, 10:10 AM
According to Robin's agent a lot of clothing sponsors are interested in him.

Orka_n
08-25-2011, 01:49 PM
According to Robin's agent a lot of clothing sponsors are interested in him.Nice. I wonder if he'll go with Asics shoes officially soon. Btw, what are those RS-clothes he's wearing on the latest pics about? He doesn't have his own brand, does he?

sunzhewyq
08-25-2011, 02:33 PM
Nice. I wonder if he'll go with Asics shoes officially soon. Btw, what are those RS-clothes he's wearing on the latest pics about? He doesn't have his own brand, does he?

Maybe,a new pair of shoes with RS logo will come out soon...:p

Jomp1
08-25-2011, 03:28 PM
Maybe he'll just auction his RS-gear out with autographs after USO for his charity. Sounds reasonable meanwhile he's getting a real sponsorship deal.

sunzhewyq
08-25-2011, 03:32 PM
Maybe he'll just auction his RS-gear out with autographs after USO for his charity. Sounds reasonable meanwhile he's getting a real sponsorship deal.

maybe,just like RF...it is a new series of a brand:confused:

AgnRus
08-25-2011, 03:51 PM
Maybe he'll just auction his RS-gear out with autographs after USO for his charity. Sounds reasonable meanwhile he's getting a real sponsorship deal.

I hope so.
And of course this is not a brand, just a temporary measure.;)

sunzhewyq
08-25-2011, 04:28 PM
i am a little nervous.....

MaxPower
08-25-2011, 04:49 PM
hehe yeah that is one major reason i hope he can win a slam. Would be a big boost for his charity and popularity. Love the ambition though. If he becomes a world number 1 he would already have everything in place :)

Soon the DRAW :eek:

AgnRus
08-25-2011, 05:42 PM
R2 (?) - Isner/Bagda (R3 probably because Isner seeded)
R4 - Delpo
awful

henke007
08-25-2011, 05:47 PM
lol@the DRAW

sunzhewyq
08-25-2011, 05:59 PM
1st round Q

DanaKz
08-25-2011, 06:16 PM
Robin's draw is fucking disaster. As always. I hate this. Destiny is a bitch.

MaxPower
08-25-2011, 06:22 PM
hmmm always dangerous with qualifier because they got 3 matches and are used to the court while Robin will be without matches. (most of the top4 looked like crap after 1 month without matches)

Isner isn't bad. He is a danger guy but Sod got a serve to match him so even in TBs he got a slight edge.

The big NOOOO is the R4 with DELPO. It's a bad matchup for Soderling and I don't like how their 2 matches this year looked like. Remove him and the draw would be good. Would rather have had pretty much anyone else in that seeding segment including guys like Tsonga.

On the other hand I do think he is in the right quarter. Murray might crash out early this year. So if he somehow can survive until QF the draw might be wide open. Going to be a very interesting tournament for sure.

AgnRus
08-25-2011, 06:42 PM
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ms/r1s3.html

R2-Alex Bogomolov Jr. USA /Steve Johnson USA

Orka_n
08-25-2011, 07:25 PM
Robin's draw is fucking disaster. As always. I hate this. Destiny is a bitch.I thought it was okay this time. Isner and Del Potro are challenges but that's how it goes. Delpo isn't in great form either.
His first 2 matches are fairly easy and then Murray in the quarters (if they both go that far). An acceptable draw imo. Wimbledon was worse.

AgnRus
08-25-2011, 08:02 PM
I thought it was okay this time. Isner and Del Potro are challenges but that's how it goes. Delpo isn't in great form either.
His first 2 matches are fairly easy and then Murray in the quarters (if they both go that far). An acceptable draw imo. Wimbledon was worse.
Don't forget Robin has not played on hard since march :(

MaxPower
08-25-2011, 09:12 PM
Yes hopefully he's practiced like never before this week but Robin will be rusty. The good thing is 5 set matches. No panic dropping a set.

I think we will see many upsets this year. Both Delpo and Murray can have a bad day on HC and go out in R1-R3. Who knows.

Having looked at Ferrers draw too it's a shame he didn't keep nr5 seed because I think that draw looked perfect. Robin owned R1 Andreev in 3 straight sets on HC easily this year, R2 Blake is a shade of his former self and both Roddick/Almagro are pretty good opponents for Robin. And I wanted the Nadal QF ofc :(

but hey Nadal SF works too :)

Orka_n
08-25-2011, 10:45 PM
Don't forget Robin has not played on hard since march :(Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the draw though. Robin might lose fairly early in this slam, but I'm just happy he's playing.

sunzhewyq
08-26-2011, 01:54 AM
don't forget G.Simon is in Del Potro's side and the victory between this two guys is highly doubtful...
del potro's USOpen series was not good,even bad this year....so....;)

at least robin will not face Federer or Djokovic in QF...that is good...

sunzhewyq
08-26-2011, 02:14 AM
Main Draw

[1] Novak Djokovic (SRB) - Qualifier
Pere Riba-Madrid (ESP) - Carlos Berlocq (ARG)
Potito Starace (ITA) - Michael Berrer (GER)
Nikolay Davydenko (RUS) - [32] Ivan Dodig (CRO)

[22] Alexandr Dolgopolov (UKR) - Frederico Gil (POR)
Kei Nishikori (JPN) - Flavio Cipolla (ITA)
Ivo Karlovic (CRO) - Fernando Gonzalez (CHI)
Sergiy Stakhovsky (UKR) - [13] Richard Gasquet (FRA)

[9] Tomas Berdych (CZE) - Qualifier
Fabio Fognini (ITA) - Horacio Zeballos (ARG)
Philipp Petzschner (GER) - Albert Ramos-Vinolas (ESP)
Qualifier - [20] Janko Tipsarevic (SRB)

[31] Marcel Granollers (ESP) - Xavier Malisse (BEL)
Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ) - Albert Montanes (ESP)
Pablo Andujar (ESP) - Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)
Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) - [7] Gael Monfils (FRA)

[3] Roger Federer (SUI) - Santiago Giraldo (COL)
Dudi Sela (ISR) - Thomaz Bellucci (BRA)
Qualifier - Bernard Tomic (AUS)
Ryan Harrison (USA) - [27] Marin Cilic (CRO)

[23] Radek Stepanek (CZE) - Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)
Juan Monaco (ARG) - Andreas Seppi (ITA)
Tommy Haas (GER) - Qualifier
Alejandro Falla (COL) - [15] Viktor Troicki (SRB)

[11] Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) - Yen-Hsun Lu (TPE)
Andreas Haider-Maurer (AUT) - Qualifier
Qualifier - Qualifier
Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) - [19] Fernando Verdasco (ESP)

[29] Michael Llodra (FRA) - Victor Hanescu (ROU)
Kevin Anderson (RSA) - Qualifier
Qualifier - Thiemo de Bakker (NED)
Tobias Kamke (GER) - [8] Mardy Fish (USA)

[6] Robin Soderling (SWE);) - Qualifier
Alex Jr. Bogomolov (USA) - Steve Johnson (USA)
Robby Ginepri (USA) - Qualifier
Marcos Baghdatis (CYP) - [28] John Isner (USA)

[18] Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) - Filippo Volandri (ITA)
Diego Junqueira (ARG) - Karol Beck (SVK)
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP) - Daniel Gimeno-Traver (ESP)
Ricardo Mello (BRA) - [12] Gilles Simon (FRA)

[14] Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) - Maximo Gonzalez (ARG)
Donald Young (USA) - Qualifier
Dmitry Tursunov (RUS) - Steve Darcis (BEL)
Marinko Matosevic (AUS) - [24] Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)

[25] Feliciano Lopez (ESP) - Tatsuma Ito (JPN)
Qualifier - Lukas Rosol (CZE)
Rui Machado (POR) - Robin Haase (NED)
Somdev Devvarman (IND) - [4] Andy Murray (GBR)

[5] David Ferrer (ESP) - Igor Andreev (RUS)
James Blake (USA) - Qualifier
Olivier Rochus (BEL) - Qualifier
Adrian Mannarino (FRA) - [26] Florian Mayer (GER)

[21] Andy Roddick (USA) - Michael Russell (USA)
Jack Sock (USA) - Marc Gicquel (FRA)
Denis Istomin (UZB) - Ryan Sweeting (USA)
Julien Benneteau (FRA) - [10] Nicolas Almagro (ESP)

[16] Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) - Ernests Gulbis (LAT)
Edouard Roger-Vasselin (FRA) - Gilles Muller (LUX)
Matthias Bachinger (GER) - Igor Kunitsyn (RUS)
Eric Prodon (FRA) - [17] Jurgen Melzer (AUT)

[30] Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) - Blaz Kavcic (SLO)
Bobby Reynolds (USA) - David Nalbandian (ARG)
Nicolas Mahut (FRA) - Qualifier
Andrey Golubev (KAZ) - [2] Rafael Nadal (ESP)

AgnRus
08-26-2011, 04:18 AM
Having looked at Ferrers draw too it's a shame he didn't keep nr5 seed because I think that draw looked perfect.

Monfils's draw before his meeting with Djokovic looks even better :(

AgnRus
08-26-2011, 05:42 AM
del potro's USOpen series was not good,even bad this year....so....;)
so what?:confused:
Yes, he did not have very good results in US Open Series, but Robin did not have anything at all.
He is inconvenient opponent for Robin, and he has won this tournament earlier.To be honest, I don't see how Robin can beat Del Potro now.



at least robin will not face Federer or Djokovic in QF...that is good...

It does not matter because he is unlikely to reach QF with his draw...

sunzhewyq
08-26-2011, 06:05 AM
Don't worry,Nastia.you know,even if robin is out in the 1st round,it is still a present for us...

but i really think this draw is not bad,compared with those before...let's hava a look what will happen soon...

btw.how about bogomolov??he had a good performance in USOpen serise...

sunzhewyq
08-27-2011, 01:00 AM
The hurricane, Irene, :eek::eek::eek:

AZ-12
08-27-2011, 08:59 AM
Robin got Louk Sorenson, which seems as one of the least dangerous qualifiers (26 years old and never ranked inside top 200). Hope he also get a late match start, well after the effects of Irene has passed.

MaxPower
08-27-2011, 10:19 AM
Robin got Louk Sorenson, which seems as one of the least dangerous qualifiers (26 years old and never ranked inside top 200). Hope he also get a late match start, well after the effects of Irene has passed.

Sorensen is pretty much the perfect R1. Its a short player too at 175 cm with a fairly weak serve. Robin can work on his return game, get many points in play and find his game.

Yes the hurricane crap is bothersome. Its painfully clear that Sod sucks in wind and it was a big reason he lost in the QF last years USO as well as the QF this year in RG. Hopefully it dies down fast

DanaKz
08-27-2011, 10:22 AM
Robin got Louk Sorenson, which seems as one of the least dangerous qualifiers (26 years old and never ranked inside top 200). Hope he also get a late match start, well after the effects of Irene has passed.

Remember last year's Haider-Murer match, he was outside of Top-200 too IIRC and qualified. Do you remember what a nightmare of match this was? I was near heart attack.

sunzhewyq
08-27-2011, 12:59 PM
Remember last year's Haider-Murer match, he was outside of Top-200 too IIRC and qualified. Do you remember what a nightmare of match this was? I was near heart attack.

and after that match,he won the first title in 2011....

Sorenson took all of the break points in his quanlifying matches and the rate of break point conversion is 100%:eek:

AgnRus
08-27-2011, 03:54 PM
and after that match,he won the first title in 2011....


Who???:eek:

AgnRus
08-27-2011, 03:56 PM
Remember last year's Haider-Murer match, he was outside of Top-200 too IIRC and qualified. Do you remember what a nightmare of match this was? I was near heart attack.

it was horrible :mad::smash::banghead:

sunzhewyq
08-28-2011, 12:54 AM
Who???:eek:

Haider-Murer...

AgnRus
08-28-2011, 06:49 AM
Haider-Murer...
Yes, he won a Challenger in March 2011 (where he met only one competitor from the top - 200), but how it relates to the USO 2010?:lol:

sunzhewyq
08-28-2011, 07:26 AM
Yes, he won a Challenger in March 2011 (where he met only one competitor from the top - 200), but how it relates to the USO 2010?:lol:

I just remember M.Norman talked about him in a interview....:p

MaxPower
08-28-2011, 08:16 AM
Now in 2011 I hope he can play the big points better in USO. That's what I want to see in R1-> that he doesn't waste his own chances and also that he takes his time with his serve when he has BP against.

Remember his 2010 USO QF with Federer. Fed converted 4/6 BPs in that match (You never see Fed at 66%). Robin only 1/6 (baaaad). He was even serving 5-3 for a set then still lost it 7-5.

IF its WINDY this year he can't play like he did 2010. Hope Rosengren has told him that every day during this week. Like more patience and not so close to the lines. He can grind players down with his power alone Del Potro style. This is also true if he faces Del Potro :eek:

MaxPower
08-28-2011, 06:16 PM
Robin finally gave a full interview to swedish television in NY. Was not his wrist that kept him away from Cincy appearantly. He had "tonsillitis" or as in swedish "halsfluss". So some sickness thrown in there. The wrist wasn't that bad I guess. Had it only been the wrist he would probably played.

Other funny fact: Coach Rosengrens wife is named Irene. Guess he has taken quite a few jokes during the week because of the hurricane

Another unnecessary fact: Del Potro just signed up for Stockholm Open. Will surely set him up for another Soderling meeting in 2011

AgnRus
08-28-2011, 07:25 PM
Another unnecessary fact: Del Potro just signed up for Stockholm Open. Will surely set him up for another Soderling meeting in 2011

Unbelievable. Jonas Bjorkman and Thomas Johansson, probably unique in the world who wants to sink their own good player at any price.:facepalm:

sunzhewyq
08-28-2011, 07:56 PM
Unbelievable. Jonas Bjorkman and Thomas Johansson, probably unique in the world who wants to sink their own good player at any price.:facepalm:

:eek:why do Jonas Bjorkman and Thomas Johansson want to sink their own good player(Robin?right?)???
what had happened between Robin and these two guys???

Robin had faced D.Ferrer for 6 times in 2010,maybe the same to Del-potro this year..

AgnRus
08-28-2011, 08:10 PM
:eek:why do Jonas Bjorkman and Thomas Johansson want to sink their own good player(Robin?right?)???
what had happened between Robin and these two guys???


Because they are the organizers of Stockholm Open. And they invited Del Potro, one of the most annoying Robin's opponents. They do everything that Robin has never won this tournament. That's all.

sunzhewyq
08-28-2011, 08:18 PM
Because they are the organizers of Stockholm Open. And they invited Del Potro, one of the most annoying Robin's opponents. They do everything that Robin has never won this tournament. That's all.

eeee,ok..i can understand now...my original thought is that there are some troubles between them..anyway,if robin can beat del-potro in a tournament,robin can gain much confidence for the next time,although it looks very tough..

sunzhewyq
08-28-2011, 08:25 PM
Was not his wrist that kept him away from Cincy appearantly. He had "tonsillitis" or as in swedish "halsfluss". So some sickness thrown in there. The wrist wasn't that bad I guess. Had it only been the wrist he would probably played.

:facepalm:

Other funny fact: Coach Rosengrens wife is named Irene. Guess he has taken quite a few jokes during the week because of the hurricane.

oh,Irene,please take Del-Potro away...maybe Nastia feels happy for that..:p

AgnRus
08-28-2011, 08:47 PM
They invited Federer last year and wrote elsewhere about the upcoming "Dream Final " Federer-Soderling. Whose dreams? Does anyone in his right mind thinks that Robin dreams to play in the final with Roger, especially after Shanghai ? they are soooo fawned before Federer, it looked disgusting. Of course I respect Federer and all its merits, but it was too much. Each year they invite Almagro in Bashtad, now they have invited Del Potro in Stockholm. Who's next?

AgnRus
08-28-2011, 08:55 PM
He had "tonsillitis" or as in swedish "halsfluss".

perhaps fate has kept him from taking unnecessary risks.
but I'm still worried about his wrist.
very pleased to see his physio Niklas with him in New York.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6186/6086079734_da249163af_z.jpg

Orka_n
08-28-2011, 09:19 PM
They invited Federer last year and wrote elsewhere about the upcoming "Dream Final " Federer-Soderling. Whose dreams? Does anyone in his right mind thinks that Robin dreams to play in the final with Roger, especially after Shanghai ? they are soooo fawned before Federer, it looked disgusting. Of course I respect Federer and all its merits, but it was too much. Each year they invite Almagro in Bashtad, now they have invited Del Potro in Stockholm. Who's next?Most Swedes love Federer, what can I say. :lol: I think his personality fits our culture more than Nadal does for example. Also, Almagro is not really an opponent that Robin loses to if he's healthy. :) Delpo is another matter, granted, but I won't blame the organizers for wanting a few big names in their tournament.

MaxPower
08-28-2011, 09:57 PM
I think it's great they have succeeded with strong lineups for both Båstad and Stockholm i recent years. Robin will be the poster-boy anyway but the crowd doesn't like him bageling his way to an easy title doing 50 min matches.

Most including me want epic matches. The indoor HC match, SF in WTF 2009 vs Delpo was one of the best matches I watched that entire season. Real heavy tennis. Must have been amazing to be there because indoors you realize how hard and clean Soderling and Del Potro strike the ball when the sound capture is so much better.

It's simply a match people would pay to see. Johansson might be slightly jealous that Robin passed his career titles this season but he still has that sweet slam win he can mock Soderling with down in Monte Carlo.

Unless Soderling has other plans in the coming 2 weeks...


Most Swedes love Federer, what can I say. :lol: I think his personality fits our culture more than Nadal does for example.

Agree. Think it's the grace and sportsmanship. Reminds us of Edberg. And what a great ambassador he was for tennis in Stockholm 2010. Came straight from Shanghai F and still took his time with both media and fans. Great guy.

sunzhewyq
08-29-2011, 01:34 AM
Someone posted this article on the forum of Robin's website.is this the one which MaxPower mentioned ?

http://www.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open-5/2011/soderling-redo-for-us-open_sto2923463/story.shtml (http://www.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open-5/2011/soderling-redo-for-us-open_sto2923463/story.shtml)

Orka_n
08-29-2011, 01:40 AM
Someone posted this article on the forum of Robin's website.is this the one which MaxPower mentioned ?

http://www.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open-5/2011/soderling-redo-for-us-open_sto2923463/story.shtml (http://www.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open-5/2011/soderling-redo-for-us-open_sto2923463/story.shtml)Maybe. In any case, Robin seems pretty confident, both regarding his wrist and his ability to play well in this Open. Good stuff.

sunzhewyq
08-29-2011, 02:00 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/photos/data/500/26410_21629_21517_1.jpg

a Chinese journalist post this picture on Weibo.com(a kind of website likes twitter.com).It was taken just outside of the BJK tennis center which is closed and cannot access even if they had the certificate.

The Opening match in Arthur Ashe had been put off for 2 hours.

AgnRus
08-29-2011, 04:47 AM
Okay, guys, you convinced me. Epic matches on home Mickey Mouse tournament, which will bring 0 pts, on the eve the more important tournaments - this is what Robin needs most of all. The show must go on!:cheerleader:
Perhaps this is a national entertainment, for foreigners like me, it's hard to understand.:rolleyes:

AgnRus
08-29-2011, 04:58 AM
Rosengren is not so optimistic :

- Robin är så jävla rostig att det inte finns anledning till förväntningar på resultat, säger Rosengren till SvD.

http://www.svd.se/sport/fredrik-rosengren-robins-halsa-det-enda-viktiga_6421840.svd

MaxPower
08-29-2011, 09:52 AM
Someone posted this article on the forum of Robin's website.is this the one which MaxPower mentioned ?

http://www.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open-5/2011/soderling-redo-for-us-open_sto2923463/story.shtml (http://www.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open-5/2011/soderling-redo-for-us-open_sto2923463/story.shtml)

Yeah that article was based on the interview i mentioned. As I said the wrist wasn't so bad and he said himself he had played Cincy if not for the throat infection.


Rosengren is not so optimistic :

- Robin är så jävla rostig att det inte finns anledning till förväntningar på resultat, säger Rosengren till SvD.

http://www.svd.se/sport/fredrik-rosengren-robins-halsa-det-enda-viktiga_6421840.svd

That's also a swedish thing. Kinda talk your athletes down so they feel no pressure. Most swedish leaders and coaches act like that. Very different from the american style for example. Wouldn't read too much into it but he also wants to protect Robin in case of an early upset in the tournament. It's clever


Most interesting that Rosengren says for next season that Robin should skip more smaller tournaments. Agree with that.

Also talks about how pedantic and professional Robin is as a player and that gives benefits but also lots of mental pressure. Must find a good balance and he can play on high level for 4-5 more years.

As for the moment all he wants is Sod to be healthy and USO to be the start for the rest of the season

Orka_n
08-29-2011, 03:01 PM
Okay, guys, you convinced me. Epic matches on home Mickey Mouse tournament, which will bring 0 pts, on the eve the more important tournaments - this is what Robin needs most of all. The show must go on!:cheerleader:
Perhaps this is a national entertainment, for foreigners like me, it's hard to understand.:rolleyes:Chill, Nastia. ;)
Stockholm Open means a lot to Robin and he hasn't won it yet so personally I fully understand him wanting to fight to win that tournament even if it doesn't bring him any points right now. And if the organizers chose to only invite mugs so Robin could easily win it, that would be disgraceful.

Rosengren is not so optimistic :

- Robin är så jävla rostig att det inte finns anledning till förväntningar på resultat, säger Rosengren till SvD.

http://www.svd.se/sport/fredrik-rosengren-robins-halsa-det-enda-viktiga_6421840.svd:haha: Fredrik is hilarious and really outspoken. I like that article btw. And I'm yet again surprised by exactly how seriously Robin takes this sport. (Perhaps too seriously.) I imagine he is working almost as hard as Pics Ferrer.
Anyways it's as Max said, Rosengren is most of all trying to lower the expectations. Personally I think there is a possibility that Robin will play pretty well in tournament. :)

AgnRus
08-29-2011, 03:55 PM
Stockholm Open means a lot to Robin and he hasn't won it yet so personally I fully understand him wanting to fight to win that tournament even if it doesn't bring him any points right now. And if the organizers chose to only invite mugs so Robin could easily win it, that would be disgraceful.


I'm not saying that they should invite the weak opponents, the tour has a lot of players. but they always invite the most annoying or inconvenient opponents (by the way,it's only 4-5 players on the tour).

But in fact many viewers like the atmosphere as at the games such Soderling - Almagro, when opponents almost hate each other :lol: (I also like it, only when it does not concern Robin :secret: :spit: )

MaxPower
08-29-2011, 05:12 PM
But in fact many viewers like the atmosphere as at the games such Soderling - Almagro, when opponents almost hate each other :lol: (I also like it, only when it does not concern Robin :secret: :spit: )

I'm one of those I'm afraid. I hate it when players are too friendly. They can be friendly of court but on court they should never be happy unless they are winning. Personally I'm more outraged by a player just letting a match slip away then when a player gets angry. Shows the will to win.

Robin is a great competitor. I think the only match-up where he is a bit too friendly is vs Federer. Smiling at defeat like he almost not want to beat him. Their H2H would look better if he had the same passion as when playing Almagro.


*Looking at USO atm. Looks Indian Wells SLOOOOOOOOOOWWW*

Orka_n
08-29-2011, 05:26 PM
I'm not saying that they should invite the weak opponents, the tour has a lot of players. but they always invite the most annoying or inconvenient opponents (by the way,it's only 4-5 players on the tour).Oh well. When Robin finally wins it it'll be worth it imo. :)

But in fact many viewers like the atmosphere as at the games such Soderling - Almagro, when opponents almost hate each other :lol: (I also like it, only when it does not concern Robin :secret: :spit: )Sod - Mugro is one of my favorite matchups on the tour. :lol:

_Chaz
08-29-2011, 11:12 PM
Söderling will play his 1st round match on Wednesday!

MaxPower
08-30-2011, 09:24 AM
Söderling will play his 1st round match on Wednesday!

:yeah: been such a long wait. 1 day left

AgnRus
08-30-2011, 09:12 PM
1st match on Grandstand at 11.00

MaxPower
08-31-2011, 04:05 PM
alright got a major shock when I saw another player entered the court. He must have withdrawn at the last minute. Very sad

AgnRus
08-31-2011, 04:05 PM
Robin Soderling has withdrawn from the US Open due to illness.
:sad::sad::sad:

_Chaz
08-31-2011, 04:05 PM
Söderling pulled out in the last minute :sobbing: :hysteric:

MaxPower
08-31-2011, 04:08 PM
He's been sick so much this year that it's getting ridiculous. Maybe the immune system is all weakened from training too hard/taking some weird medication. Because honestly he is more sick than your average tennis player

Orka_n
08-31-2011, 04:09 PM
...

AgnRus
08-31-2011, 04:17 PM
Well, the Swedish guys, you still want an epic matches in Stockholm?

I'm crying ....

sunzhewyq
08-31-2011, 04:25 PM
i am crying ,too.......

what had happened???

AgnRus
08-31-2011, 04:27 PM
Robins agent confirmed that he had a tough night with stomach problems and headaches. Probably, this is some kind of virus.
:sad:

MaxPower
08-31-2011, 04:28 PM
well this destroyed the entire tournament for me. Was looking forward to USO big time. Also the more you think about it the worst it gets.

The race for London :(

Personally i also wonder how it could be so last minute. Why not give the match a shot and retire if it gets too bad. Everything is very strange. Now only the wait for media to get hold of him.

MaxPower
08-31-2011, 04:30 PM
Robins agent confirmed that he had a tough night with stomach problems and headaches. Probably, this is some kind of virus.
:sad:

ok thx for info. Maybe he should be more careful doing all the promos and visiting hospitals and children. I know its heartless but his immune system has been poor at best the past months :sobbing:

sunzhewyq
08-31-2011, 04:30 PM
Robins agent confirmed that he had a tough night with stomach problems and headaches. Probably, this is some kind of virus.
:sad:

his stomach?????the same problem with the one just affected before the WTF last year???:sad:

minh
08-31-2011, 04:42 PM
:sad:, nothing to say, just sad and worried about his illness :sad:

Sunset of Age
08-31-2011, 04:46 PM
What a shame. I really had some good hopes for a good run for Robin at this year's USO.
All my best wishes for a speedy and full recovery!

sunzhewyq
08-31-2011, 04:57 PM
what should i do??i don't want to do nothing but crying....

his agent said he will come back for the Thailand and now he must be very sick...

MaxPower
08-31-2011, 05:19 PM
should wipe the tears. I mean it had been worse if it was the wrist again. That could be a sign that he needs surgery or something and be gone for the rest of the season. Now he will be back in some weeks.

I'm setting a new goal for the season. 6 titles and winning Stockholm for the swedish calendar 250 slam. got to see the positives even if its hard on a day like this :(

sunzhewyq
08-31-2011, 05:29 PM
should wipe the tears. I mean it had been worse if it was the wrist again. That could be a sign that he needs surgery or something and be gone for the rest of the season. Now he will be back in some weeks.

I'm setting a new goal for the season. 6 titles and winning Stockholm for the swedish calendar 250 slam. got to see the positives even if its hard on a day like this :(

i really really try to think about some positives to make me feel better...but i cannot....

we all had been waiting him for nearly a month..but what we get is this news...From heaven to hell which just cost me 1 minute...

yep i am not crying any more,i have toooo much things to do...to make the gift for him...maybe this is the only thing i can do...

sunzhewyq
08-31-2011, 05:37 PM
From Robin's Twitter

Hi my friends, I am sorry but I just couldn't play today. I had no energy, had stomachache, headache and talking to the doctor we decided that I just couldn't play. I really hope to recover quickly.

MaxPower
08-31-2011, 06:28 PM
urgh yeah Robin probably feels really sorry for his fans. I mean a lot of people hoped to catch a match with him in the US and now he missed the entire US Open series and US Open.

Anyone have the full schedule for the rest of the season?

Thailand Open next?

Maybe he should gamble and play both Beijing and Tokyo. It's close geographically so why not

Edit: or no. Forgot Shanghai is right after Tokyo

sunzhewyq
08-31-2011, 06:34 PM
urgh yeah Robin probably feels really sorry for his fans. I mean a lot of people hoped to catch a match with him in the US and now he missed the entire US Open series and US Open.

Anyone have the full schedule for the rest of the season?

Thailand Open next?

Maybe he should gamble and play both Beijing and Tokyo. It's close geographically so why not

Edit: or no. Forgot Shanghai is right after Tokyo

No.Tokyo and Beijing are opened on the same day...and robin chose beijing.then he will be in Shanghai for the master.after that he will come back to Sweden..

MaxPower
08-31-2011, 08:48 PM
pretty safe to say that the Beijing + Shanghai combo will decide his fate if he wants to end the year in top8. If he does well in both it can happen.

But damn after Båstad everything looked so great and now he is in a uphill battle to even stay in top8

At least Almagro crashed out today. Something to cheer Robin up lying sick in his bed

AgnRus
08-31-2011, 09:11 PM
Looking back, I think Borg was absolutely right.

http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2484854/bjorn-borg-tacka-nej-till-bastad-soderling

---------------------------------
Robin has been unhealthy for too long time, but continued to play. And instead of a full recovery he was forced to reach the fitness peak in Bastad (of course he did not want to disappoint the home crowd).But his body has decided that it was enough. you can not endlessly torturing your body. all these injuries and illnesses is just consequence.

Orka_n
08-31-2011, 10:32 PM
Nah, the wrist injury and this sickness is just pure bad luck. Båstad has nothing to do with it. But in any case he should consider playing fewer tournaments next year.

AgnRus
08-31-2011, 11:01 PM
Too many bad luck. Injury, then tonsillitis, then a virus.
Robin has become too vulnerable. Unfortunately.

FlameOn
08-31-2011, 11:41 PM
Robin :hug::sad:. Get well soon.

AgnRus
09-01-2011, 09:57 AM
http://www.svd.se/sport/us-open-bakslaget-manar-till-eftertanke_6432058.svd

AgnRus
09-01-2011, 10:19 AM
I really hope he takes a break after the asian tournaments and will miss Stockholm (especially if he will play well in Asia). Only then he will have a chance to prepare well for Valencia (Basel) / Paris.
But almost no chance for this.

perhaps he will remain in the history of tennis as a talented player who just picked the wrong priorities.

MaxPower
09-01-2011, 10:21 AM
"The tournament doctor in US Open suggests that Robin could have caught the virus as a result of the throat infection"

I'm not that surprised. Had a feeling his immune system could be weakened from those recent events and then it was pure insanity being out in New York ringing the bell in Nasdaq and all the other PR work he did.

Should have locked himself up in the hotel with Jenny and not even gone outside. Maybe taken a special chef with him that cooked the food even.

And yes this is all bad luck but point is he was weakened and got careless. Both in Wimbledon AND in US Open. If my memory serves me right the main reason he failed in Indian Wells/Miami was also illness possibly caught as a result of medication he took for his foot.

Hope it's a wake up call for him like the article suggests. Once or twice then its bad luck. When it happens 4-5 times in the same season it's more than just bad luck

AgnRus
09-01-2011, 10:31 AM
Once or twice then its bad luck. When it happens 4-5 times in the same season it's more than just bad luck

Yes, of course :(

AgnRus
09-01-2011, 04:23 PM
http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2547155/sa-ska-soderling-bli-frisk-efter-problemen

sunzhewyq
09-01-2011, 05:41 PM
http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2547155/sa-ska-soderling-bli-frisk-efter-problemen

:sad:poor boy..

MaxPower
09-03-2011, 11:40 AM
Del Potro out, Berdych out, Almagro out so as of now (not counting the possible +250 Soderling might be able to count)

Fish +655*
Berdych +270
Almagro +160
Tsonga +140*
Soderling
Simon -40*
Del Potro -190

*=Still in USO

Top5 is safe so those 7 will fight for the 3 remaining spots in the year end top8. I hope he can make it

AgnRus
09-05-2011, 01:30 PM
Practice with Melzer at USO (Monday, August 29)

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Robin looks bad on this video :( so many shots into the net and outs :facepalm:
Fidde did not lie.

AgnRus
09-05-2011, 06:23 PM
http://svt.se/2.21318/1.2523163/fortfarande_oklart_med_soderling

MaxPower
09-05-2011, 07:45 PM
Good find. Don't think he looked that bad. Melzer looked worse. On the other hand Melzer has been falling like a stone in the rankings so yeah...

http://svt.se/2.21318/1.2523163/fortfarande_oklart_med_soderling

Borrelia sounds like a longshot. Really don't think it's that.

Sadly it could be "mono" like Federer got in 2008. Actually most of the sympthoms match exactly the kind of reaction grownups get form that virus. The throat problems are then exactly like in tonsillitis and stomach pains, tiredness and light fever all match too.

Usually they count 4 weeks without any heavy exercise and it does go away by itself.

If it's confirmed mono he should consider skipping Thailand just to be safe

AgnRus
09-06-2011, 10:48 AM
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=97&artikel=4681502

Robin Söderling är fortfarande sjuk och har inte blivit bättre sen han drog sig ur US Open i tennis i förra veckan. Men det är ännu oklart vad som har drabbat tennisesset.

OMG :sadface:

sunzhewyq
09-06-2011, 11:23 AM
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=97&artikel=4681502

Robin Söderling är fortfarande sjuk och har inte blivit bättre sen han drog sig ur US Open i tennis i förra veckan. Men det är ännu oklart vad som har drabbat tennisesset.

OMG :sadface:

:sad::sad::sad::sad:Robin!!!
:help::tape::banghead::bowdown::crying2::facepalm: :sadface:

AgnRus
09-08-2011, 03:52 PM
From Robin's Facebook :

It’s been a difficult period but I am getting better. Doctors confirmed that I have had mono for quite some time and this truly explains my lack of energy but my health is improving and I hope to be back on the court as soon as possible. Thank you so much for your support and hope to see you soon.

mono :sad:

DanaKz
09-08-2011, 03:58 PM
From Robin's Facebook :

It’s been a difficult period but I am getting better. Doctors confirmed that I have had mono for quite some time and this truly explains my lack of energy but my health is improving and I hope to be back on the court as soon as possible. Thank you so much for your support and hope to see you soon.

mono :sad:

:sad:

sunzhewyq
09-08-2011, 04:12 PM
that is really bad luck....

take care,robin...have a good rest...

MaxPower
09-08-2011, 04:20 PM
Ah well expected but could be worse. Actually I think he's relieved knowing why he's been so low on energy and feeling so bad. Must been a real mystery to him how he got fevers, throat pains, stomach pains and all kinds of problems one after another thinking they were unrelated and he had the worst luck on tour. Then it was just the same virus.

Now he got time to recover and hopefully back soon

AZ-12
09-08-2011, 07:45 PM
Agree that it is good for Robin to get a diagnosis. But mono can be tough. Just hope that he doesn't get the the worst version. For Mario Ancic it was the mono that ended his career.

AgnRus
09-08-2011, 09:28 PM
http://www.svd.se/sport/soderling-jag-har-kortelfeber_6454626.svd

no game untill Stockholm Open or even more? :confused: :(

sunzhewyq
09-09-2011, 12:13 AM
http://www.svd.se/sport/soderling-jag-har-kortelfeber_6454626.svd

no game untill Stockholm Open or even more? :confused: :(

:tears:OH,no。。。

MaxPower
09-09-2011, 12:23 AM
Read up on some of the mono cases.

Ancic spent 10 weeks in bed and missed 6 months.

Federer hardly missed a beat.

The average athelete seem to spend about 1-2 weeks in bed and be back in about 4.


Soderling has already played for some time with sympthoms and that indicates to me that he doesn't really have the Ancic reaction and maybe not a Federer reaction either but more of a "normal" reaction.

That should indicate that he is back in anything from 4-6 weeks. So as he says he aims for Stockholm but it could go faster or take longer time.

I really pray he had some touch of these virus in his youth so he has some kind of resistance to it and the only reason he got this outbreak was that he had pushed himself too hard. If that's the case he will be back much faster than expected.

dabeast
09-09-2011, 02:50 AM
Hope for a speedy recovery for Robin. Mono sounds not as extreme as the Sjögren's Syndrome, dude's still young, he can pull thru soon. I remember back in 08, pple in the locker room were saying instead of joking around with the other players, Fed was spending all his free time napping and just lying down, it's not how much recovery time you have but how u deal with the virus in between down time.

MaxPower
09-09-2011, 04:36 PM
We'll see. All I want to hear is that he is up from bed and walking around because then it's really no worries. Some more rest and the symptoms will be completely gone and then it's nothing more to do really. Can't cure it so must just pray that it never comes back. Normally when you have a major outbreak like he did you build immunity/resistance so hopefully mono will never strike Soderling again.

Robin at least had some luck with USO since the top4 did their job and unless Isner/Roddick does something spectacular this is how it looks.

6.Fish +655
7.Tsonga +320
8.Berdych +270
9.Almagro +160
10.Soderling
11.Simon -40
12.Del Potro -190

IF he somehow can recover for 3rd of October and enter Beijing (play 4 500s and be signed up early enough as I hope he was) he has the +250 so maybe

6.Fish +405
7.Tsonga +70
8.Berdych +20
9.Soderling
10.Almagro -90
11.Simon -290
12.Del Potro -440

Sod obviously knows this himself so if he feels fine then he'll go to Asia and try to save the season. For me that would be a good sign that the recovery went really well. If he does go to Asia I think he should skip Stockholm just to get the extra rest in and make sure he stays strong.

Otherwise probably skip the entire Asia tour and take Stockholm as his "comeback" tournament and see how he does. Still got Valencia/Basel and Paris to at least finish the season in a good way. If he can't stay in seeding group 5-8 he will have to aim for 9-12.

swedes_rule
09-09-2011, 08:21 PM
I kinda feel like he should take the rest of the year off. If he comes back too soon he's only going to make himself worse. This year is already a write-off, better to just get well now and make sure it doesnt carry through to next year. Robins got a habit of pushing himself too hard and that's probably how he got so sick in the first place. Next year he needs to play less 250s (but he's not allowed to skip brisbane cos that was the best week of my life this year :lol:) and just focus on the majors.

AgnRus
09-09-2011, 09:12 PM
he should take the rest of the year off.

too early to talk about the end of the season for him :rolleyes:

By the way, I fully agree with MaxPower (#477).

Björki
09-09-2011, 09:13 PM
get well soon Robin :hug:

sunzhewyq
09-10-2011, 06:13 AM
Com'n Robin,you be back,right..?? T.T!!

AgnRus
09-10-2011, 07:00 AM
Com'n Robin,you be back,right..?? T.T!!

Well of course he will come back, the question is : WHEN?
I think even he doesn't know the answer yet.

henke007
09-10-2011, 10:24 AM
Sad to see Robins Career and ranking derail like this, who knows when he will be back in full gear. As a fan its very depressing and sad to see him miss London as he is the true nr 5 in the world.

Hope you recover fast Soderking :angel::worship:

sunzhewyq
09-10-2011, 11:14 AM
Well of course he will come back, the question is : WHEN?
I think even he doesn't know the answer yet.

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

MaxPower
09-10-2011, 10:00 PM
In team sports the doctor usually disqualify a player with mono for 21 days, mostly because in a serious outbreak like this the spleen gets a bit enlarged and could have increased risk of rupture in contact sports. Tennis isn't even a contact sport so that's not a concern. As soon as he feels great he should obviously start practice again. The more he misses the more he will drop in the rankings and the harder it will be to get back.

I think people are overreacting mostly because of Ancic. He had a very strange reaction to the virus and probably only 1 guy in 100 would suffer something like that. Most people are back in a month or so and can start practice even sooner than that. For all we know he could even be back for Thailand Open still.

Depends on how soon he is free of symptoms and can start do some light practice. Maybe next week already. What I want is just reports that he is up and walking around and doing his everyday things again.

AgnRus
09-11-2011, 12:23 AM
The fever usually drops in 10 days, and swollen lymph glands and spleen heal in 4 weeks. Fatigue usually goes away within a few weeks, but may linger for 2 to 3 months.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000591.htm

he needs a few weeks at least, and he just got diagnosed a couple of days ago :rolleyes:
I personally know people who have suffered from mono for two months or more.

Robin can not come out and play without being completely healthy, he made this mistake all year, that's enough!

MaxPower
09-11-2011, 06:53 PM
The general recommendations usually factor in all age groups and normally I think a fairly young adult should fight it off better than a child/senior citizen but yes it's very individual. With some luck it's not his first encounter with the virus because then it's worse.

A good indicator will be when he withdraws from Thailand Open. If he does that soon it probably means no hope in sight. If he withdraws at the last moment he probably considered playing. If he doesn't withdraw at all well then the recovery went much better than expected.

I think his immune system will be superstrong following this because that it what the body does, builds a ton of white blood cells. His amount of red blood cells might take a hit on the other hand so he will tire easily just like you said fatigue will be an issue. Could last months yes but no danger to his health really

Some good things:

Only 3-seters left

Indoor season soon with fast surface and shorter points


Maybe be careful with back-to-back tournaments if he does well in the first one.

AgnRus
09-11-2011, 08:29 PM
Robin is one of top players of the tournament and the face on the poster. In such cases, the players usually withdraw at the last moment, for reasons to reduce the damage to the organizers. Even if the decision had been taken earlier.:shrug:

sunzhewyq
09-12-2011, 09:09 AM
so,robin is not on the poster for ChinaOpen this year...he can make the decision a little earlier??(Last year,robin was one of them...)

http://www.chinaopen.com.cn/en/

MaxPower
09-12-2011, 08:15 PM
dunno just 2 weeks left so not gonna be an "early" withdrawal anyway. The organizers aren't that secretive. It would make both them and Robin seem like jackasses if they announce it like a few days before it starts if he's told them already. But hey they get the great Andy Murray anyway...


so,robin is not on the poster for ChinaOpen this year...he can make the decision a little earlier??(Last year,robin was one of them...)

http://www.chinaopen.com.cn/en/

You mean the poster in the banner? Except Djokovic it looks like Ljubo and Roddick :) Pretty funny selection.

I think Robin will really wait with the withdrawal for ChinaOpen. Nice facilities, good prize money etc. Good choice for comeback

sunzhewyq
09-13-2011, 01:57 AM
You mean the poster in the banner? Except Djokovic it looks like Ljubo and Roddick :) Pretty funny selection.

I think Robin will really wait with the withdrawal for ChinaOpen. Nice facilities, good prize money etc. Good choice for comeback

Roddick had won the ChinaOpen in 2008 and Ljubicic had a Chinese clothing sponsor,Li-Ning..

AgnRus
09-13-2011, 02:48 PM
.... a Chinese clothing sponsor,Li-Ning..

:eek:

sunzhewyq
09-13-2011, 03:38 PM
:eek:

????Didn't you know that??His contract was signed long time ago(maybe in 2007)

AgnRus
09-13-2011, 03:55 PM
????Didn't you know that??His contract was signed long time ago(maybe in 2007)
I even did not know about this company :)

sunzhewyq
09-13-2011, 04:10 PM
I even did not know about this company :)

OK,the CEO of this company is Li Ning,a famous gymnast in China,he won 6 medals(3G 2S 1B) at the 1984 Summer Olympics...

http://www.li-ning.com.cn/

DanaKz
09-13-2011, 05:16 PM
Really Nastia you didn't know? :eek:
OK,the CEO of this company is Li Ning,a famous gymnast in China,he won 6 medals(3G 2S 1B) at the 1984 Summer Olympics...

http://www.li-ning.com.cn/

He is this guy who set Olimpic flame at 2008 Beijing Olympics
a_U6qXEbUCM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Li_Ling_during_2008_Summer_Olympics_opening_ceremo ny.jpg/399px-Li_Ling_during_2008_Summer_Olympics_opening_ceremo ny.jpg

sunzhewyq
09-13-2011, 05:28 PM
Really Nastia you didn't know? :eek:


He is this guy who set Olimpic flame at 2008 Beijing Olympics
a_U6qXEbUCM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Li_Ling_during_2008_Summer_Olympics_opening_ceremo ny.jpg/399px-Li_Ling_during_2008_Summer_Olympics_opening_ceremo ny.jpg

thx,Dana,i just forgot that moment...:)

MaxPower
09-14-2011, 09:52 AM
Cool. Ljubo has played great in the twilight of his career so Soderling should use some Li Ning sponsoring as well when he hits 30...Lotto just made him sick :cool:

Less than 10 days until Thailand Open. Checked the tournament site and still no news. Seems like Simon is the only player they wanted to give a normal photo for the poster :)

http://www.thailandopen.org/upload/home_pic/picHome21.jpg

AgnRus
09-14-2011, 11:03 AM
Really Nastia you didn't know? :eek:



http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0//47/179/47179693_1249528715_1_12.gif



Less than 10 days until Thailand Open. Checked the tournament site and still no news. Seems like Simon is the only player they wanted to give a normal photo for the poster :)

http://www.thailandopen.org/upload/home_pic/picHome21.jpg

poster :facepalm:

...but I still think Robin will not play in Thailand...

sunzhewyq
09-14-2011, 02:12 PM
Cool. Ljubo has played great in the twilight of his career so Soderling should use some Li Ning sponsoring as well when he hits 30...Lotto just made him sick :cool:



That is really a good idea:cool:.At least,for his Chinese fans,it is more easier to find a LI-NING shop than a Lotto one...:p

http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0//47/179/47179693_1249528715_1_12.gif



haha,what is this?so funny..:D