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Federer preparing his last assault for Number 1?

kyleskywalker007
11-07-2010, 04:08 AM
Itīs no secret that after the AO Federer started pretty much sucking (to his standards of course). In fact he sucked for long enough to lose the number 1 spot, which happened around Wimbledon. As of now, he is 1 week short of Samprasī record of weeks at number 1. It would seem that after Wimbledon, when he got some time off and started working on his attacking game, he decided he wants to fight for rankings once more. Or, at least, he has stopped having random losses.

Look, since after the AO and up to Wimbledon his results have been:

-Indian Wells: Rd 32 (Lost to N°33 Bahgdatis)
-Miami: Rd16 (Lost to N°20 Berdych)
-Rome: Rd32 (Lost to N°40 Gulbis)
-Estoril: Semifinal (Lost to N°34 Montaņes):rolleyes:
-Madrid: Final (Lost to N°3 Nadal)
-Roland Garros: Quarters (Lost to N°7 Soderling)
-Halle: Final (Lost to N°32 Hewitt):confused:
-Wimbledon: Quarters (Lost to N°13 Berdych)

During this period of 8 tournaments played, he had a 17-8 record, with no titles and losses to some of his favorite bitches, including megabitch Soderling and Hewitt, who simply isnīt the same player anymore. His record against top 10 players was 0-2.

Now, from Wimbledon on, after his time off with the purpose of retooling his game (though it seems more of a retooling of his mind actually) these have been his results:

-Toronto: Final (Lost to N°4 Murray)
-Cincinnati: Won (Defeated N°35 Fish)
-USO: Semifinal (Lost to N°3 Djokovic)
-Shanghai: Final (Lost to N°4 Murray)
-Stockholm: Won (Defeated N°47 Mayer)
-Basel: Won (Defeated N°3 Djokovic)
-Paris: Semifinal (Lost to N°14 Monfils)
-World Tour Finals: Won (Defeated N°1 Nadal)

In this stretch of 8 tournaments, he amassed a 33-4 record, with losses to people you know can beat him (Except Monfils of course). In this period he won 4 tournaments, reached the finals of two 1000s and semis of USO. His record against top 10 players was 13-3.

Now, I am not, by any means, suggesting there will be a second period of dominance by Federer, those days are long gone. What i am saying is he seems to have gotten better at avoiding random losses. Yes, he is still losing more than he is winning, but making the finals at 3 out of the last 4 AMS 1000 and winning the WTF is quite impressive for any player.

The only "bad" result here is his USO SF, but still, he was defeated by a Djokovic who fought to the last point. Fed was defeated there, he didnīt defeat himself like many like to think.

So, what do you say? Can he keep this up for next year? If so, and providing Nadal lowers his standards a bit, i say he could have a shor stint at number 1...

Paylu2007
11-07-2010, 04:40 AM
i guess you have a point here :) he knows that he has a great chance of returning to number 1 after RG if he does a good performance there and gets a RR or Win there ;)

16681
11-07-2010, 04:49 AM
I believe Roger is also short of Pete's record of finishing years as the World Number 1 player. If so, I can see no way he can come back and get that record.

EDIT: Pete finished the year as the World's Number 1 player for 6 straight years. So with today's field of Tennis Players I see no way Roger will ever get that record.

DorianGray7
11-07-2010, 05:03 AM
If Roger wins tomorrow at Basel, wins Paris and wins World Tour Finals.

How far is he off? If he continues this hypothetical streak and wins AO won't he get back the No. 1 spot?

I guess Nadal holding 6000 - 9000 points is almost impossible to overcome. lol

Topspindoctor
11-07-2010, 05:07 AM
:spit:

nadal_slam_king
11-07-2010, 05:08 AM
From what he's saying it sounds like he's doesn't believe he can do it, and he's just focusing on winning any tournaments he can win, even if he no longer is able to win slams. Winning non-slams is a motivation to continue playing. But to chase Rafa down he MUST win slams.

BlueSwan
11-07-2010, 05:11 AM
I think he WANTS to regain number one. He seems to now be taking lesser tournaments seriously, which he didn't seem to do from a period starting in 2007 and going all the way up to this summer, where he seemed to be all about the slams.

However, I consider it HIGHLY unlikely that he can regain number one unless Nadal is injured - like in 2009. As I have argued loads of times before, including back in early 2010 when everybody was writing Nadal off, the calendar HEAVILY favours someone who can dominate on one surface. As I've argued before, if Nadal continues to be unbeatable on clay, all he has to do is post decent results outside of clay (no need for winning other slams, for instance) and he'd be number one, unless someone puts in a performance like Federer in his heyday. And since noone can do that, Nadal will continue to be #1 for as long as he can manage to utterly dominate clay.

nadal_slam_king
11-07-2010, 05:23 AM
I think he WANTS to regain number one. He seems to now be taking lesser tournaments seriously, which he didn't seem to do from a period starting in 2007 and going all the way up to this summer, where he seemed to be all about the slams.

However, I consider it HIGHLY unlikely that he can regain number one unless Nadal is injured - like in 2009. As I have argued loads of times before, including back in early 2010 when everybody was writing Nadal off, the calendar HEAVILY favours someone who can dominate on one surface. As I've argued before, if Nadal continues to be unbeatable on clay, all he has to do is post decent results outside of clay (no need for winning other slams, for instance) and he'd be number one, unless someone puts in a performance like Federer in his heyday. And since noone can do that, Nadal will continue to be #1 for as long as he can manage to utterly dominate clay.

This is all true, and especially in 2011 because Rafa really isn't defending much non-slam points apart from the clay season. Whereas if he'd won Indian Wells or won Toronto or Cincy or Shanghai in 2010 it'd have been a different story. 2011 in particular is a great chance to continue atop the rankings. 2009 was a freak situation because Rafa completely skipped Wimbledon and all the points there.

emotion
11-07-2010, 05:35 AM
Nadal is defending an awful lot during clay season...
However, Djokovic will pick up lots of points AO through RG and Fed has to defend AO... and don't count out Murray and Soderling.

nadal_slam_king
11-07-2010, 05:45 AM
Nadal is defending an awful lot during clay season...
However, Djokovic will pick up lots of points AO through RG and Fed has to defend AO... and don't count out Murray and Soderling.

I bet Rafa is awfully scared of that clay season, all the big threats like Verdasco and Ferrer :o

careergrandslam
11-07-2010, 05:48 AM
i dont think federer will finish year end number 1 ever again.
just not as consistent.
young players rising fast.

n8
11-07-2010, 05:56 AM
Points accumulated since 25 July (week of Los Angeles, Umag and Gstaad):
13 Week
Rank ATP Player (country) Points*
1 1 Rafael Nadal (ESP) 3220 pts
2 2 Roger Federer (SUI) 3170 pts
3 3 Novak Djokovic (SRB) 2600 pts
4 4 Andy Murray (GBR) 2510 pts
5 10 Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) 1230 pts
6 14 Gael Monfils (FRA) 1055 pts
7 20 Marcos Baghdatis (CYP) 1020 pts
8 5 Robin Soderling (SWE) 900 pts
9 29 David Nalbandian (ARG) 880 pts
10 18 Mardy Fish (USA) 870 pts
11 12 Jurgen Melzer (AUT) 800 pts
12 8 David Ferrer (ESP) 760 pts
13 27 Richard Gasquet (FRA) 675 pts
14 32 Viktor Troicki (SRB) 660 pts
15 52 Gilles Simon (FRA) 595 pts
16 9 Andy Roddick (USA) 585 pts
17 22 Samuel Querrey (USA) 565 pts
18 30 G. Garcia-Lopez (ESP) 565 pts
19 21 Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)540 pts
20 16 Nicolas Almagro (ESP) 540 pts
21 17 Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) 530 pts
22 11 Nikolay Davydenko (RUS) 505 pts
23 6 Tomas Berdych (CZE) 505 pts
24 34 P. Kohlschreiber (GER) 505 pts
25 7 Fernando Verdasco (ESP) 505 pts
26 49 Jeremy Chardy (FRA) 495 pts
27 40 J.I. Chela (ARG) 495 pts
28 41 Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) 470 pts
29 23 Albert Montanes (ESP) 460 pts
30 19 John Isner (USA) 450 pts
31 53 Sergey Stakhovsky (UKR) 445 pts
32 43 Denis Istomin (UZB) 410 pts
33 15 Marin Cilic (CRO) 390 pts
34 25 Juan Monaco (ARG) 380 pts
35 46 Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) 370 pts
36 45 Thiemo de Bakker (NED) 355 pts
37 44 Tommy Robredo (ESP) 345 pts
38 31 Feliciano Lopez (ESP) 345 pts
39 24 J.C. Ferrero (ESP) 340 pts
40 58 Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ) 335 pts

*last 13 weeks, no tournaments restrictions (e.g. unlimited ATP250s), only tour level points.

This is not including this week so since Canada Federer has actually gotten more points than Nadal despite the Spaniard's US Open win.

emotion
11-07-2010, 06:10 AM
I bet Rafa is awfully scared of that clay season, all the big threats like Verdasco and Ferrer :o

Djokovic and Ferrer (if he can stop choking :( ) can beat him on clay, I think... so can Soderling and probably delPo
One early loss during cc (or injury) is lots of points gone.

BlueSwan
11-07-2010, 06:18 AM
Points accumulated since 25 July (week of Los Angeles, Umag and Gstaad):
13 Week
Rank ATP Player (country) Points*
1 1 Rafael Nadal (ESP) 3220 pts
2 2 Roger Federer (SUI) 3170 pts
3 3 Novak Djokovic (SRB) 2600 pts
4 4 Andy Murray (GBR) 2510 pts
5 10 Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) 1230 pts
6 14 Gael Monfils (FRA) 1055 pts
7 20 Marcos Baghdatis (CYP) 1020 pts
8 5 Robin Soderling (SWE) 900 pts
9 29 David Nalbandian (ARG) 880 pts
10 18 Mardy Fish (USA) 870 pts
11 12 Jurgen Melzer (AUT) 800 pts
12 8 David Ferrer (ESP) 760 pts
13 27 Richard Gasquet (FRA) 675 pts
14 32 Viktor Troicki (SRB) 660 pts
15 52 Gilles Simon (FRA) 595 pts
16 9 Andy Roddick (USA) 585 pts
17 22 Samuel Querrey (USA) 565 pts
18 30 G. Garcia-Lopez (ESP) 565 pts
19 21 Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)540 pts
20 16 Nicolas Almagro (ESP) 540 pts
21 17 Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) 530 pts
22 11 Nikolay Davydenko (RUS) 505 pts
23 6 Tomas Berdych (CZE) 505 pts
24 34 P. Kohlschreiber (GER) 505 pts
25 7 Fernando Verdasco (ESP) 505 pts
26 49 Jeremy Chardy (FRA) 495 pts
27 40 J.I. Chela (ARG) 495 pts
28 41 Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) 470 pts
29 23 Albert Montanes (ESP) 460 pts
30 19 John Isner (USA) 450 pts
31 53 Sergey Stakhovsky (UKR) 445 pts
32 43 Denis Istomin (UZB) 410 pts
33 15 Marin Cilic (CRO) 390 pts
34 25 Juan Monaco (ARG) 380 pts
35 46 Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) 370 pts
36 45 Thiemo de Bakker (NED) 355 pts
37 44 Tommy Robredo (ESP) 345 pts
38 31 Feliciano Lopez (ESP) 345 pts
39 24 J.C. Ferrero (ESP) 340 pts
40 58 Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ) 335 pts

*last 13 weeks, no tournaments restrictions (e.g. unlimited ATP250s), only tour level points.

This is not including this week so since Canada Federer has actually gotten more points than Nadal despite the Spaniard's US Open win.
Yes, so if Federer can outscore Nadal from now and until after Wimbledon, he'll be number one. But who on earth thinks he can do that with much of that period being on clay, including three masters events and a slam, and much of the rest being on slooooow hard where Nadal is also very strong. Anyone who wants to be number one ahead of Nadal would logically have to give themselves a HUGE lead during the grass-fast hard-indoor period from July to November.

careergrandslam
11-07-2010, 06:30 AM
rafa needs to grab some points at the tour finals because he has alot of points to defend in the middle of next year.

come on rafa, u can do it my boy.

.-Federers_Mate-.
11-07-2010, 06:30 AM
if Fed keeps winning he will get to number one. He is always looking to be number one same for every other player. He was always be laying siege on number 1.

Foxy
11-07-2010, 06:35 AM
Keep dreaming... :D :D :D

careergrandslam
11-07-2010, 06:37 AM
if Fed keeps winning he will get to number one. He is always looking to be number one same for every other player. He was always be laying siege on number 1.

number 1 belongs to rafa.
stop ur nonsense.

alter ego
11-07-2010, 06:39 AM
IF Roger holds his AO title, then he has a very good chance.

nadal_slam_king
11-07-2010, 06:44 AM
Djokovic and Ferrer (if he can stop choking :( ) can beat him on clay, I think... so can Soderling and probably delPo
One early loss during cc (or injury) is lots of points gone.

Well, even 2009 Rafa won a bunch of clay titles, and he was a step slow during that season and taking painkillers before every match (as was later revealed). I knew something was up that season, he was winning matches in straight sets but the sets were taking much longer than usual, a lot more retrieving rather than big forehands. So my point is, Rafa even at his worst is going to win a lot of events on clay. Del Potro can't. Ferrer can't. Djokovic most likely can't, considering he struggled against 2009 Rafa. Soderling? Nah, Rafa's worked him out good. Ain't happening.

nadal_slam_king
11-07-2010, 06:47 AM
IF Roger holds his AO title, then he has a very good chance.

A good chance at what? Not falling further behind? Rafa can gain points at the AO by getting past the QF. Federer needs to win just to reach par. Indian Wells is also a good opportunity for Rafa to gain points.

emotion
11-07-2010, 07:02 AM
Well, even 2009 Rafa won a bunch of clay titles, and he was a step slow during that season and taking painkillers before every match (as was later revealed). I knew something was up that season, he was winning matches in straight sets but the sets were taking much longer than usual, a lot more retrieving rather than big forehands. So my point is, Rafa even at his worst is going to win a lot of events on clay. Del Potro can't. Ferrer can't. Djokovic most likely can't, considering he struggled against 2009 Rafa. Soderling? Nah, Rafa's worked him out good. Ain't happening.

Soderling played a terrible match this year, but he can still beat Nadal. He's not unbeatable. Big-hitting still hurts him, as Almagro and Gulbis showed even this year (and while Alamgro just faded, Gulbis really should have won that match) and he has to defend Wimby too, where he certainly struggled at times. Like I said though, I think Djokovic is a more likely #1 than Fed

alter ego
11-07-2010, 07:02 AM
A good chance at what? Not falling further behind? Rafa can gain points at the AO by getting past the QF. Federer needs to win just to reach par. Indian Wells is also a good opportunity for Rafa to gain points.

A good chance of taking his number 1 spot after Wimbledon.

alter ego
11-07-2010, 07:07 AM
Well, even 2009 Rafa won a bunch of clay titles, and he was a step slow during that season and taking painkillers before every match (as was later revealed). I knew something was up that season, he was winning matches in straight sets but the sets were taking much longer than usual, a lot more retrieving rather than big forehands. So my point is, Rafa even at his worst is going to win a lot of events on clay. Del Potro can't. Ferrer can't. Djokovic most likely can't, considering he struggled against 2009 Rafa. Soderling? Nah, Rafa's worked him out good. Ain't happening.

:spit:

Yes also his pet cat got a divorce from his pet dog. That really affected his game . :o

.-Federers_Mate-.
11-07-2010, 07:24 AM
rafa needs to grab some points at the tour finals because he has alot of points to defend in the middle of next year.

come on rafa, u can do it my boy.


:haha::haha:

:tape:

Or Levy
11-07-2010, 07:33 AM
It is fairly obvious Roger can't get to number 1 till after Wimbledon next year. If Rafa defend the clay season and RG, it would be difficult for Roger. He'll have to win at least two slams.

Acer
11-07-2010, 07:51 AM
If he really wanted that record he should've just tried harder and made it a bit further in those events he sucked at after the AO. It's much harder now.

paseo
11-07-2010, 08:48 AM
Nadal's clay season this year is sublime. He was just too good. He should just play on another planet. However, I don't think he will win all of the 3 clay masters next year. I'm not even sure that he will win RG.
Yes, call me delusional. But, I'll stick with my prediction. And, No. I'm not saying that Fed will win instead. I'm just saying that Nadal will lose points in the clay season next year.

Priam
11-07-2010, 09:02 AM
Nadal's clay season this year is sublime. He was just too good. He should just play on another planet. However, I don't think he will win all of the 3 clay masters next year. I'm not even sure that he will win RG.
Yes, call me delusional. But, I'll stick with my prediction. And, No. I'm not saying that Fed will win instead. I'm just saying that Nadal will lose points in the clay season next year.

He can gain 500 from Barcelona next year if he plays it (he probably will). I'm guessing he loses one of the TMS events (Madrid?).

Pirao666
11-07-2010, 09:16 AM
Djokovic and Ferrer (if he can stop choking :( ) can beat him on clay, I think... so can Soderling and probably delPo
One early loss during cc (or injury) is lots of points gone.

Lol, yeah Del Potro is such a great clay courter :rolleyes:

Soderling didn't do much on clay this year except at RG, where he still couldn't beat Nadal, he has to prove that his win against Nadal in 2009 was against a non-injured Nadal, which so far he hasn't.

The last time Ferrer beat Nadal on clay was in 2004. Djokovic has never done it.

Nadal doesn't have any consistent threats on clay, unless he gets injured.

He can gain 500 from Barcelona next year if he plays it (he probably will). I'm guessing he loses one of the TMS events (Madrid?).

I doubt he plays Barcelona next year, I think he learnt his lesson about overplaying in 2009.

BlueSwan
11-07-2010, 09:26 AM
Look, even if we take Nadals current total which includes a big fat ZERO points from WTF last year, strip him of his US open and Wimbledon titles and replace them with a QF and a SF AND even strip him of his RG title and replace it with a final appearance.

Nadal is still #1 in the rankings.

What was odd in 2005-2007 was that Nadal was NOT #1. He had enough points that he would have been #1 almost any other year on tour. It took JesusFed, the most dominant player in the history of the sport, to keep him at #2.

So let me repeat this: As long as Nadal can dominate on clay - and we're not even talking 2010 like dominance - he's a lock for #1 as long as someone doesn't put in a performance like JesusFed in 2005-2007 and we all know that Federer dominated the tour like noone before during those years, so that happening again is highly unlikely.

Nadal will be #1 for a very long time as long as he can stay healthy and as long as no new all-conquering clay phenomenon emerges.

Pirata.
11-07-2010, 09:35 AM
He can gain 500 from Barcelona next year if he plays it (he probably will). I'm guessing he loses one of the TMS events (Madrid?).

I don't think he will play Barcelona anymore. They re-did the calendar, so now I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) it's Monte Carlo-Barcelona-250s-Madrid-Rome-250s-RG. Surely even Rafa wouldn't be stupid enough to play that much tennis, even with the week off in between. If he has any sense and wants to defend his non-clay Slam titles, he should skip Barcelona next year too.

Nadal doesn't have any consistent threats on clay, unless he gets injured.

Weak era.

Pirao666
11-07-2010, 09:39 AM
I don't think he will play Barcelona anymore. They re-did the calendar, so now I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) it's Monte Carlo-Barcelona-250s-Madrid-Rome-250s-RG. Surely even Rafa wouldn't be stupid enough to play that much tennis, even with the week off in between. If he has any sense and wants to defend his non-clay Slam titles, he should skip Barcelona next year too.



Weak era.

Nope, Nadal is just that good, but nice bait :wavey:

Priam
11-07-2010, 09:47 AM
I don't think he will play Barcelona anymore. They re-did the calendar, so now I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) it's Monte Carlo-Barcelona-250s-Madrid-Rome-250s-RG. Surely even Rafa wouldn't be stupid enough to play that much tennis, even with the week off in between. If he has any sense and wants to defend his non-clay Slam titles, he should skip Barcelona next year too.



Weak era.

My guess is play Barca (home tournament) and tank Madrid.

solowyn
11-07-2010, 09:53 AM
Last week Rafa did say that he'll be at Barcelona next year: http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/gen/20101030/54062550563/noticia/nadal-estare-en-el-proximo-godo.html

Pirao666
11-07-2010, 09:55 AM
Last week Rafa did say that he'll be at Barcelona next year: http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/gen/20101030/54062550563/noticia/nadal-estare-en-el-proximo-godo.html

IIRC, he said he would play Barcelona this year too, but in the end decided against it, it wouldn't surprise me to see him do the same next year. Unless he gets eliminated early in the previous clay masters, I doubt he plays Barcelona.

Infinity
11-07-2010, 11:19 AM
Last week Rafa did say that he'll be at Barcelona next year: http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/gen/20101030/54062550563/noticia/nadal-estare-en-el-proximo-godo.html

He must make an entry to 4 tournaments in the 500 category(3 if he plays Monte Carlo). It is guaranteed that he will put Barcelona on his calendar, and probably will not withdraw until he plays his last match at Monte Carlo.

Infinity
11-07-2010, 11:26 AM
Look, even if we take Nadals current total which includes a big fat ZERO points from WTF last year, strip him of his US open and Wimbledon titles and replace them with a QF and a SF AND even strip him of his RG title and replace it with a final appearance.

Nadal is still #1 in the rankings.

What was odd in 2005-2007 was that Nadal was NOT #1. He had enough points that he would have been #1 almost any other year on tour. It took JesusFed, the most dominant player in the history of the sport, to keep him at #2.

So let me repeat this: As long as Nadal can dominate on clay - and we're not even talking 2010 like dominance - he's a lock for #1 as long as someone doesn't put in a performance like JesusFed in 2005-2007 and we all know that Federer dominated the tour like noone before during those years, so that happening again is highly unlikely.

Nadal will be #1 for a very long time as long as he can stay healthy and as long as no new all-conquering clay phenomenon emerges.


You are making a good point here. If Nadal keeps dominating clay (at least two masters and RG), Someone has to equally dominate the hard court season, which ,by looking at the top 20, is highly unlikely.

Jaz
11-07-2010, 12:20 PM
A good chance at what? Not falling further behind? Rafa can gain points at the AO by getting past the QF. Federer needs to win just to reach par. Indian Wells is also a good opportunity for Rafa to gain points.

Except Federer can gain massive point on Clay and Grass, where frankly, he just sucked. Whereas Nadal needs to defend his titles.

It's possible that Federer could be #1 if he defends AO, Wins Wim, and is a Finalist at FO. Assuming he also wins another masters event.

This is assuming that Federer defend AO. If he doesn't I don't think he can do it.

nadal_slam_king
11-07-2010, 12:37 PM
Except Federer can gain massive point on Clay and Grass, where frankly, he just sucked. Whereas Nadal needs to defend his titles.

It's possible that Federer could be #1 if he defends AO, Wins Wim, and is a Finalist at FO. Assuming he also wins another masters event.

This is assuming that Federer defend AO. If he doesn't I don't think he can do it.

And imagine if Djokovic won AO, final of RG and won Wimbledon!

tealeaves
11-07-2010, 12:41 PM
I hope Roger can get it together and break Pete's record.

Fujee
11-07-2010, 12:57 PM
I don't see why he cannot, if Roger's career has taught us anything, it is he can come back and claim the top spot again. Rafa has a shorter shelf life than Roger in terms of staying Injury free, so providing he starts getting some momentum through the early part of the year, there isnt a reason why not. Rafa has alot to defend and theres always that chance he can get injured or retire. Who knows.

A_Skywalker
11-07-2010, 01:02 PM
SUre, he is moving his way to the nr1 with 500 titles.

Fujee
11-07-2010, 01:18 PM
Oh so the way to solidfy and move up in the rankings is to NOT win titles? Please, don't let your petty jealousy cloud your judgement.

tealeaves
11-07-2010, 01:38 PM
by the way, is Fed one week short to tie Pete's record?

feuselino
11-07-2010, 01:52 PM
Yes, and if we tranfsorm it into a tennis match, he was up 2-0 in sets with a double break in the third against that record, but somehow managed to lose it in five...

finishingmove
11-07-2010, 01:59 PM
federer will be #1 again yes

BlueSwan
11-07-2010, 02:06 PM
Yes, and if we tranfsorm it into a tennis match, he was up 2-0 in sets with a double break in the third against that record, but somehow managed to lose it in five...
Very true. Failing to break that record was the biggest "choke" of Federers career. His results during the span after AO2010 to Madrid2010 was the worst spell of results he had had since his headcase days back in 2002. All he needed was semidecent results, or even poor results by his standards, but instead he had BLOODY AWFUL results. Look at this:

TMS Indian Wells (hard) R32: 45
TMS Miami (hard) R16: 90
TMS Rome (clay) R32: 10
Estoril (clay) SF: 90

235 points from FOUR tournaments - three of them Masters 1000 tournaments. That is downright embarrassing from the greatest player of all time chasing the important most-weeks-at-#1 record.

BigJohn
11-07-2010, 02:12 PM
This a thread about Federer, and yet half the posts are gay-for-Rafa.

Shocking.

kyleskywalker007
11-07-2010, 02:49 PM
Why is that some people think Djokovic can get to N°1? Are they insane? I mean, he has a mathematical chance of getting there, of course. But that would involve winning a couple of grand slams, and winning them isn't exactly what he does best.

Don't get me wrong, i really like Djoke, but...let's not forget how many times he froze to the sight of N°2, can you imagine what would happen if N°1 was at stake?

Sillyrabbit
11-07-2010, 02:51 PM
This a thread about Federer, and yet half the posts are gay-for-Rafa.

Shocking.

Not really.:confused: It's a discussion about the current number 2 overtaking the current number 1. It's really not that shocking that the number one player gets brought up a lot to compare what the number 2 player would have to do to overtake him.

Xristos
11-07-2010, 03:01 PM
Federer will be number 1 once again.

Persimmon
11-07-2010, 03:12 PM
Itīs no secret that after the AO Federer started pretty much sucking (to his standards of course). In fact he sucked for long enough to lose the number 1 spot, which happened around Wimbledon. As of now, he is 1 week short of Samprasī record of weeks at number 1. It would seem that after Wimbledon, when he got some time off and started working on his attacking game, he decided he wants to fight for rankings once more. Or, at least, he has stopped having random losses.

Look, since after the AO and up to Wimbledon his results have been:

-Indian Wells: Rd 32 (Lost to N°33 Bahgdatis)
-Miami: Rd16 (Lost to N°20 Berdych)
-Rome: Rd32 (Lost to N°40 Gulbis)
-Estoril: Semifinal (Lost to N°34 Montaņes):rolleyes:
-Madrid: Final (Lost to N°3 Nadal)
-Roland Garros: Quarters (Lost to N°7 Soderling)
-Halle: Final (Lost to N°32 Hewitt):confused:
-Wimbledon: Quarters (Lost to N°13 Berdych)

During this period of 8 tournaments played, he had a 17-8 record, with no titles and losses to some of his favorite bitches, including megabitch Soderling and Hewitt, who simply isnīt the same player anymore. His record against top 10 players was 0-2.

Now, from Wimbledon on, after his time off with the purpose of retooling his game (though it seems more of a retooling of his mind actually) these have been his results:

-Toronto: Final (Lost to N°4 Murray)
-Cincinnati: Won (Defeated N°35 Fish)
-USO: Semifinal (Lost to N°3 Djokovic)
-Shanghai: Final (Lost to N°4 Murray)
-Stockholm: Won (Defeated N°47 Mayer)

In this stretch of 5 tournaments, he amassed a 20-3 record, with losses to people you know can beat him. In this period he won 2 tournaments, reached the finals of two 1000s and semis of USO. His record against top 10 players was 6-3.

Now, I am not, by any means, suggesting there will be a second period of dominance by Federer, those days are long gone. What i am saying is he seems to have gotten better at avoiding random losses. Yes, he is still losing more than he is winning, but making the last 3 AMS 1000 finals is quite impressive for any player.

The only "bad" result here is his USO SF, but still, he was defeated by a Djokovic who fought to the last point. Fed was defeated there, he didnīt defeat himself like many like to think.

So, what do you say? Can he keep this up for next year? If so, and providing Nadal lowers his standards a bit, i say he could have a shor stint at number 1...


My predictions for 2011

AO Nadal
FO Federer
Wimbledon Federer
USO Murray

RedHotRafa
11-07-2010, 03:14 PM
Not ever going to happen again.

Topspindoctor
11-07-2010, 03:15 PM
A couple of MM events and now he is a contender for #1? :retard:

Federer won't even defend his AO most likely.

Persimmon
11-07-2010, 03:16 PM
2011 will be 2009 all over again. Only that Murray will win USO instead of Del Po.

Luinir
11-07-2010, 03:17 PM
If Nadal wins Aussie Open, he will keep his position.

Persimmon
11-07-2010, 03:18 PM
If Nadal wins Aussie Open, he will keep his position.

Not if he gets injured after the AO again like in 2009.

Topspindoctor
11-07-2010, 03:18 PM
My predictions for 2011

AO Nadal
FO Federer
Wimbledon Federer
USO Murray

:haha:

Persimmon
11-07-2010, 03:20 PM
:haha:

Well, that's how I see it... Nadal now has shoulder tendinitis besides the recurrent knee tendinitis.:o

xoyz
11-07-2010, 03:20 PM
On the way to No. 1 there is another record that should be broken - Nadal's 18 MS. While this is not a record that Federer will hold for a long time, it is one that he should hold, at least for a while. And winning two of the next three Masters 1000 tournaments is both realistically possible for Federer and will be very useful for recapturing the No. 1 spot after Wimbledon 2011.

kyleskywalker007
11-07-2010, 03:22 PM
UPDATED after his victory in Basel

kyleskywalker007
11-07-2010, 03:25 PM
A couple of MM events and now he is a contender for #1? :retard:

Federer won't even defend his AO most likely.

Well, the thing is he is actually winning these MM events....A couple of months ago he couldn't even defeat Montaņes of all people in Estoril, so it definitely is a step forward.

feuselino
11-07-2010, 03:38 PM
Very good showings at Paris, London and Melbourne will give him a decent chance at regaining the Nr. 1 spot after Wimbledon, I'd say. Of course, he might as well drop out of the top 5 by that time as well... we'll have to wait and see...

Il Primo Uomo
11-07-2010, 04:09 PM
Nadal has A LOT to gain in the WTF ad OZ. Not to mention he could very well gain some points in Rotterdam or Dubai. Plus he could improve his results in both IW or Miami.
Federer has not that much of a chance IMO.
Providing he stays healthy Nadal is a lock for the top rank. That's fine to me though :)

calvinhobbes
11-07-2010, 04:50 PM
I believe Roger is hunting points here and there just in case. HC is his favorite field, so his work is most likely to be fruitful in these six months since Toronto. AO will be the fulcrum of this project, and from then on a big part of Rogerīs success towards getting No. 1 again will be on Nadalīs side. Rafa has tons of points to defend, and Roger not so many. Maybe the scenario could be a reprise of 2009. Nadal must impose a cruel burden on his legs and shoulders to keep himself afloat. Maybe then the points gained today by Roger could rotate the scale in his favour. Who knows. . . . :rolleyes:

Jaz
11-07-2010, 05:17 PM
Nadal has A LOT to gain in the WTF ad OZ. Not to mention he could very well gain some points in Rotterdam or Dubai. Plus he could improve his results in both IW or Miami.
Federer has not that much of a chance IMO.
Providing he stays healthy Nadal is a lock for the top rank. That's fine to me though :)

Err..

Doha, Nadal Finalist. Federer Semi-Finalist
Aus, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer Winner
IW, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer R32
Miami, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer R 16
Mc. Nadal Winner. Federer N/a
Rome. Nadal Winner. Federer R32.
Estoril. Nadal N/a. Federer Semi-Finalist.
Madrid. Nadal Winner. Federer Finalist.
French Open. Nadal Winner. Federer Quarter-Finalist.

Clearly Federer likely to gain points, given AO.

Jaz
11-07-2010, 05:20 PM
And for the rest of year...

Paris, Nadal Semi. Federer R32
WTF, Nadal RR. Federer Semi-Finalist.

Elaka Farmor
11-07-2010, 05:46 PM
I think Federer (almost) only cares about the grand slams titles, everything else is a bonus. If he has to choose between a GS-title or be world number 1 again, I think he will pick the GS for shore.....

Manequin75
11-07-2010, 05:51 PM
Nadal has A LOT to gain in the WTF ad OZ. Not to mention he could very well gain some points in Rotterdam or Dubai. Plus he could improve his results in both IW or Miami.
Federer has not that much of a chance IMO.
Providing he stays healthy Nadal is a lock for the top rank. That's fine to me though :)

yup staying healthy for rafa is the key here. But now he has shoulder issues. WHo knows how he come sout serving now? I think fed has a very very good chance and unless Rafa wins one of WTF or AO 2010 might actually get it.

Priam
11-07-2010, 06:08 PM
Err..

Doha, Nadal Finalist. Federer Semi-Finalist
Aus, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer Winner
IW, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer R32
Miami, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer R 16
Mc. Nadal Winner. Federer N/a
Rome. Nadal Winner. Federer R32.
Estoril. Nadal N/a. Federer Semi-Finalist.
Madrid. Nadal Winner. Federer Finalist.
French Open. Nadal Winner. Federer Quarter-Finalist.

Clearly Federer likely to gain points, given AO.

Nadal QFs at AO that's why people are saying he can gain a lot of points if he goes deep (Finals at least). Dubai/Rotterdam can also be a good source of points if he plays. I don't really see any significant gain at IW and Miami barring some miracle. WTFs is where he can gain 400 at least by making the semis. April to early July is pretty much zilch for Nadal (small possibility of 500+ points from Barca and Queens). Toronto and Cincy are his next bets.

The key for Roger is holding AO. He has a boatload of points to gain until Wimby.

feuselino
11-07-2010, 06:13 PM
Federer should play MC in 2011, that would help him a bit with the points.

ApproachShot
11-07-2010, 06:21 PM
Federer should play MC in 2011, that would help him a bit with the points.

Spoke my mind. I don't think he's going to though.

Fujee
11-07-2010, 06:28 PM
Its possible for sure, but Nadal is a man on song at the moment. Who knows after this shady shoulder injury though, the man might not be able to walk AND serve in 3 years. Of course i'd like to see Roger at no.1 again, Rafa has earnt it though and his time at number will probably be shorter than Rogers original reign, so it seems right if rafa was to keep the top spot.

swisht4u
11-07-2010, 06:33 PM
I noticed Fed playing more seriously at summer end at all tournaments.
I didn't know if it was just a coincidence or not.
It appears he wants to do well wherever he goes so if this holds he should do pretty well for the rest of the year.
He has a good chance to make #1 if he approaches ALL tournaments this way.
It doesn't matter how far he's behind, it only matters if he can get more points over any 12 month span than anyone else.

Johnny Groove
11-07-2010, 06:41 PM
Federer needs to have great showings if not win in at least 2 of the 3 events, Paris, WTF, and AO.

After that, Fed can vastly improve on his IW/Miami results, Dubai is 500 points for the taking, and his clay season couldn't get any worse.

Also, Nadal is defending a SHITLOAD from MC to Wimbledon. Like the past 3 years, the #1 will effectively be decided come RG/Wimbledon time.

swisht4u
11-07-2010, 07:01 PM
Whatever happens, I like seeing Fed put forth effort no matter where he goes. Not like after the AO where he was just a shadow of himself. Many fans have one chance in their life to see him play, he should put it on the line within reason.
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If he can keep up the motivation it will force Nadal to play harder everywhere, right now Nadal is being reasonable with his schedule because he can, but with more pressure he won't have that luxury.

Fujee
11-07-2010, 07:07 PM
Whatever happens, I like seeing Fed put forth effort no matter where he goes. Not like after the AO where he was just a shadow of himself. Many fans have one chance in their life to see him play, he should put it on the line within reason.
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If he can keep up the motivation it will force Nadal to play harder everywhere, right now Nadal is being reasonable with his schedule because he can, but with more pressure he won't have that luxury.

Very good point.

kyleskywalker007
11-07-2010, 07:12 PM
Whatever happens, I like seeing Fed put forth effort no matter where he goes. Not like after the AO where he was just a shadow of himself. Many fans have one chance in their life to see him play, he should put it on the line within reason.
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If he can keep up the motivation it will force Nadal to play harder everywhere, right now Nadal is being reasonable with his schedule because he can, but with more pressure he won't have that luxury.

Well, that's quite right indeed. Of course all these pronostics rest on the assumption that Fed continues playing this way....

HKz
11-07-2010, 07:13 PM
If Roger wins tomorrow at Basel, wins Paris and wins World Tour Finals.

How far is he off? If he continues this hypothetical streak and wins AO won't he get back the No. 1 spot?

I guess Nadal holding 6000 - 9000 points is almost impossible to overcome. lol

I'm quite sure statistically Federer had a much larger lead in 2006/2007, so Nadal's lead is certainly not "impossible"

But yes, Federer has a lot less points to defend while Nadal has a load, especially from the clay season. I don't see a reason why Federer won't return to the number 1 spot at least one more time.

Sillyrabbit
11-07-2010, 07:41 PM
Whatever happens, I like seeing Fed put forth effort no matter where he goes. Not like after the AO where he was just a shadow of himself. Many fans have one chance in their life to see him play, he should put it on the line within reason.
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If he can keep up the motivation it will force Nadal to play harder everywhere, right now Nadal is being reasonable with his schedule because he can, but with more pressure he won't have that luxury.

Not sure what that means, and it doesn't make too much sense. Nadal is now being reasonable with his schedule because he knows he has to if he wants to have a long career and not only shine in one part of the year and fizzle by the time NY comes around. Nadal is not stupid, do you actually think that if Federer gets the number one spot back, Nadal will put his body on the line and start playing the energizer bunny again knowing what it'll do to him just so he can be number one again?

Fujee
11-07-2010, 07:43 PM
Thing is, everyone says Nadal has alot to defend in the clay season, but would you bet your money against him defending the lot?

Pirao666
11-07-2010, 08:10 PM
Thing is, everyone says Nadal has alot to defend in the clay season, but would you bet your money against him defending the lot?

I think it's unlikely that Nadal will defend all his clay points next year. It's possible Federer could reach #1 for a few weeks again, but I don't think he'll finish another year as #1, but who knows...

Jaz
11-07-2010, 08:24 PM
Thing is, everyone says Nadal has alot to defend in the clay season, but would you bet your money against him defending the lot?

It's true he could defend them all. But then again, last year was also pretty freaky given that everyone was a level below Nadal, and/or out of form.

Fedicilous
11-07-2010, 08:27 PM
I think it's unlikely that Nadal will defend all his clay points next year. It's possible Federer could reach #1 for a few weeks again, but I don't think he'll finish another year as #1, but who knows...

This.

Pirao666
11-07-2010, 08:27 PM
It's true he could defend them all. But then again, last year was also pretty freaky given that everyone was a level below Nadal, and/or out of form.

Freaky? Everyone is a level below Nadal on clay.

Lukenole
11-07-2010, 08:29 PM
If he win the ATP Finals, he will have a good chance to recover the nš1 place.

swisht4u
11-07-2010, 09:52 PM
Not sure what that means, and it doesn't make too much sense. Nadal is now being reasonable with his schedule because he knows he has to if he wants to have a long career and not only shine in one part of the year and fizzle by the time NY comes around. Nadal is not stupid, do you actually think that if Federer gets the number one spot back, Nadal will put his body on the line and start playing the energizer bunny again knowing what it'll do to him just so he can be number one again?

Yes, if Fed gets the #1 spot back Nadal will try harder. This has been Nadal's pattern. Warriors don't leave anything on the battlefield. They do what's necessary regardless of consequences.
I don't know if Nadal's stupid or not, has he always done what's best for him?
What else do you want to know?

Snowwy
11-08-2010, 04:15 AM
I like it how Federer's fans think he can regain the number one ranking. It's going to hurt them REAL bad when he doesn't and falls into retirement. So its for the best that their expectations are so high. Same with Federer himself, if he thinks he can get the number one ranking back he's in for a sad retirement (and the disappointment of not winning London Olympics too). That's the great thing about Federer, he's going to find a way to feel like a loser when he retires :yeah:

98% of them will just glory hunt with another top player so they won't really care.

Paylu2007
11-08-2010, 04:20 AM
98% of them will just glory hunt with another top player so they won't really care.

This.

Its the same story every time u have a favorite player, he is good, then he gets old or injured and decides retiring. Then u start looking for a new player (the most of the times you already have a replacement at the moment of retiring) and u still love tennis :)

Thats what tennis fans always do (included myself).

Its nothing beyond this world that Federer is going to retire someday, and its not going to be when he is in the top of tennis, thats for sure. He will still be the best player ever, even when other player is the current number 1 (whoever he is at that moment).

Arkulari
11-08-2010, 04:26 AM
I like it how Federer's fans think he can regain the number one ranking. It's going to hurt them REAL bad when he doesn't and falls into retirement. So its for the best that their expectations are so high. Same with Federer himself, if he thinks he can get the number one ranking back he's in for a sad retirement (and the disappointment of not winning London Olympics too). That's the great thing about Federer, he's going to find a way to feel like a loser when he retires :yeah:

So having ambition and setting goals is just for losers? :rolleyes:
There's always a chance for everything, it'll be VERY difficult but stranger things have happened
I don't think a guy who's had a record of F,W,SF,F,W,W after Wimbledon is going to retire any time soon, otherwise all the top 10 should retire :o

Paylu2007
11-08-2010, 04:30 AM
So having ambition and setting goals is just for losers? :rolleyes:
There's always a chance for everything, it'll be VERY difficult but stranger things have happened
I don't think a guy who's had a record of F,W,SF,F,W,W after Wimbledon is going to retire any time soon, otherwise all the top 10 should retire :o

no, its just for sore losers/haters to make that kind of assumptions to demonstrate their hate :)

eduggs
11-08-2010, 04:38 AM
Of course Federer could regain the #1 ranking. There will always be an unpredictable element in tennis. Any player can have a lousy serving day, feel sick, or get injured. With 3600pt swings possible at the first 3 slams next year and ~1000pt swings possible at several of the masters tournaments, huge ranking changes are possible. That means Federer, and to a lesser degree, Djokovic and Murray, could theoretically overtake Nadal by the early summer. It's still an unlikely outcome and an Australian Open win for Nadal would make it nearly impossible for Federer unless he swept W, RG, and the US. Everything will depend on the results of the larger tournaments.

Assuming Nadal does not suffer a serious injury or prolonged bad play, Federer would have to:
W or Fs at Australian (Nadal doesn't win).
W either IW or Miami.
W either Rome or Madrid.
W either RG or Wimb.

That would put him in the hunt during the US summer hardcourt season. Very tall order considering most SF and beyond matches are coin flip matches at best. But possible.

swisht4u
11-08-2010, 06:31 AM
Fed needs to make more points over any 12 month period than Nadal. Doesn't matter how far he's behind.
If he keeps working on the smaller tournaments and masters with interest he can rack up quite a few points. His HC game is still good enough.
On clay he can make quite a few points too.
He needs to cut down on early exits, looks like he's working on that also recently.
It's been a long time since he's put together a long string of solid tournaments so we'll just have to see how it plays out.
We have a couple tournaments left this year, doing well in both of these will go a long way in reestablishing Fed's confidence and give a better indication of how determined he is.

Mechlan
11-08-2010, 07:03 AM
I like it how Federer's fans think he can regain the number one ranking. It's going to hurt them REAL bad when he doesn't and falls into retirement. So its for the best that their expectations are so high. Same with Federer himself, if he thinks he can get the number one ranking back he's in for a sad retirement (and the disappointment of not winning London Olympics too). That's the great thing about Federer, he's going to find a way to feel like a loser when he retires :yeah:

How will he live? I guess he'll just have to console himself with being the most talented player to ever pick up a racket. :sad:

Seriously though, Federer's not getting #1 back. He had his chance to lock up the record and blew it. At this point, it's all gravy. The fact that he's competing with the best in the world when everyone else in his generation is long gone is pretty amazing. If he can win a slam or two, that would be fantastic, and worth more than the ranking. If not, he can retire today and his legacy is set.

nadal_slam_king
11-08-2010, 10:05 AM
How will he live? I guess he'll just have to console himself with being the most talented player to ever pick up a racket. :sad:

Seriously though, Federer's not getting #1 back. He had his chance to lock up the record and blew it. At this point, it's all gravy. The fact that he's competing with the best in the world when everyone else in his generation is long gone is pretty amazing. If he can win a slam or two, that would be fantastic, and worth more than the ranking. If not, he can retire today and his legacy is set.

So having ambition and setting goals is just for losers? :rolleyes:
There's always a chance for everything, it'll be VERY difficult but stranger things have happened
I don't think a guy who's had a record of F,W,SF,F,W,W after Wimbledon is going to retire any time soon, otherwise all the top 10 should retire :o

98% of them will just glory hunt with another top player so they won't really care.

Thanks yall for quoting me, it allowed me to delete my post (and delete the negative rep I had received) :yeah:

I didn't say he was a loser, I said he'd feel like a loser if he retires with TWO disappointments - he's already said his main goal is to win the London Olympics, and if he's chasing the Number One ranking too to get Sampras' record then that's not a nice way to finish his career, falling short of TWO major aims. The other thing he might find disappointing is not increasing his slam total to a number that Rafa can't reach :yeah:

(btw I also deleted the post you are reading now, after I got a negative rep for it too, and then re-posted it :yeah:)

bokehlicious
11-08-2010, 10:09 AM
(btw I also deleted the post you are reading now, after I got a negative rep for it too, and then re-posted it :yeah:)

Wow, what a smart ass... :awww: :hug:

nadal_slam_king
11-08-2010, 10:25 AM
Wow, what a smart ass... :awww: :hug:

Up here for thinking mate,
Because I'm the last poster you'll ever hate!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Silvester
11-08-2010, 12:27 PM
it's still possible. He needs to do well at WTF and defend his AO I think for it to happen though. Then he'll definatly need to do a bit better between AO & FO tourneys to close the gap a bit, maybe Nadal won't win all those Masters 1000 this spring. At least another W or USO win will also be needed with Nadal not making Finals probably.

Sillyrabbit
11-08-2010, 02:13 PM
Yes, if Fed gets the #1 spot back Nadal will try harder. This has been Nadal's pattern. Warriors don't leave anything on the battlefield. They do what's necessary regardless of consequences.
I don't know if Nadal's stupid or not, has he always done what's best for him?
What else do you want to know?

Exactly, and what's best for him is to have a full year and long career winning tourneys, which he can still do from number 1 or 2.

dodo
11-08-2010, 02:59 PM
Thanks yall for quoting me, it allowed me to delete my post (and delete the negative rep I had received) :yeah:

(btw I also deleted the post you are reading now, after I got a negative rep for it too, and then re-posted it :yeah:)

I suggest you delete all your posts preemptively.
This way, everybody wins.

Mechlan
11-08-2010, 03:16 PM
I suggest you delete all your posts preemptively.
This way, everybody wins.

:lol: :yeah:

Sophocles
11-08-2010, 03:42 PM
I suggest you delete all your posts preemptively.
This way, everybody wins.

Splendid idea.

fast_clay
11-08-2010, 03:43 PM
How will he live? I guess he'll just have to console himself with being the most talented player to ever pick up a racket. :sad:

Seriously though, Federer's not getting #1 back. He had his chance to lock up the record and blew it. At this point, it's all gravy. The fact that he's competing with the best in the world when everyone else in his generation is long gone is pretty amazing. If he can win a slam or two, that would be fantastic, and worth more than the ranking. If not, he can retire today and his legacy is set.

yeah... i tend to agree... and the argument should be more like, 'can federer be happy playing the tour at rank #5 to #10?'... i'd say it's a 75/25 call against federer regaining the #1 ranking, and i do think sampras' record would be significant to him to about the same level as derailing nadal's quest to increase his tally of majors...

that said, it's still a duopoly by and large... nothing has really changed for years, just the difference between two names... so because of the lack of other potential #1's you have to give federer a punchers chance of taking it back at some stage... and if he does, it'll be at canada for a week or two... or at the WTF... all depending if he picks up 2 MS's + 1 GS and 3 GS semis at least...

pica_pica
11-08-2010, 05:32 PM
Federer to hit number 1 again? Seriously don't want that to happen...too unhealthy for the game...can we have Dimitrov cracking into Top 20, Raonic and Kuznetsov and Krajinovic and Tomic cracking into Top 100, Federer falling to No.4, Nole and Murray and Rafa fighting for year-end No.1 instead in 2011?
No offence to Federer but ATP has a low metabolic rate at the moment...

Seingeist
11-08-2010, 05:39 PM
Federer to hit number 1 again? Seriously don't want that to happen...too unhealthy for the game...can we have Dimitrov cracking into Top 20, Raonic and Kuznetsov and Krajinovic and Tomic cracking into Top 100, Federer falling to No.4, Nole and Murray and Rafa fighting for year-end No.1 instead in 2011?
No offence to Federer but ATP has a low metabolic rate at the moment...

I quite agree. It's nothing against the Fed, of course: he has firmly established himself as the GOAT, and I don't see that as a controversial claim. But I'm not going to lose sleep at night if RF doesn't break EVERY record there ever was to break. I kinda like that Pete Sampras gets to keep his streak at #1, at least for now.

Sapeod
11-08-2010, 05:49 PM
Federer to hit number 1 again? Seriously don't want that to happen...too unhealthy for the game...can we have Dimitrov cracking into Top 20, Raonic and Kuznetsov and Krajinovic and Tomic cracking into Top 100, Federer falling to No.4, Nole and Murray and Rafa fighting for year-end No.1 instead in 2011?
No offence to Federer but ATP has a low metabolic rate at the moment...
Hater.

pica_pica
11-08-2010, 05:54 PM
Hater.
:lol: I know I'm bound to stir controversy with my post.
I like Federer more than Murray, but you may notice that I included Murray as one of the No.1 hopefuls in my wish

luie
11-08-2010, 05:54 PM
Federer to hit number 1 again? Seriously don't want that to happen...too unhealthy for the game...can we have Dimitrov cracking into Top 20, Raonic and Kuznetsov and Krajinovic and Tomic cracking into Top 100, Federer falling to No.4, Nole and Murray and Rafa fighting for year-end No.1 instead in 2011?
No offence to Federer but ATP has a low metabolic rate at the moment...
:confused: Unhealthy for the game ???
Maybe you don't want him @ the top but its not unhealthy. Laver won the CYGS @ 31 years in 1969. So whats wrong with a 29/30 year old fed winning slams & take back the #1 position.
Plus no body is stopping Murray/Novak from displacing fed if they are good enough to do so.

Apophis
11-08-2010, 06:00 PM
It could happen if several things fall his way, but not before Wimbledon 2011. He would probably need to outperform Nadal quite significantly in all non-clay events between now and Wimbledon 2011, plus have a decent clay season. He only has a chance thanks to his good post-Wimbledon 2010 streak. I give Federer about 10% chance to reach #1 in 2011 and 1% after that.

The Nadal-Murray era is about to commence.

Persimmon
11-08-2010, 06:02 PM
Federer to hit number 1 again? Seriously don't want that to happen...too unhealthy for the game...can we have Dimitrov cracking into Top 20, Raonic and Kuznetsov and Krajinovic and Tomic cracking into Top 100, Federer falling to No.4, Nole and Murray and Rafa fighting for year-end No.1 instead in 2011?
No offence to Federer but ATP has a low metabolic rate at the moment...

..But Fedfans around the planet want Fed to win 20 slams. No matter what.:awww:

Jaz
11-08-2010, 07:41 PM
So its more healthy that Nadal stay #1 for weeks and weeks, and inconsistent tards like Murray go for it than Federer.

Dodgy logic...... Unless you're a nadal fan.. Then it makes sense.

Matt01
11-08-2010, 09:46 PM
I think he'll fall out of the Top 2 (or maybe even Top 3) after AO.

BigJohn
11-08-2010, 09:50 PM
The Nadal-Murray era is about to commence.

Again?..

Sapeod
11-08-2010, 09:54 PM
:lol: I know I'm bound to stir controversy with my post.
I like Federer more than Murray, but you may notice that I included Murray as one of the No.1 hopefuls in my wish
It's not that.
It's the part where you said it's unhealthy for the game if Fed gets no.1 again....
But it's not if Nadal stays?
Hater!

Orka_n
11-08-2010, 11:06 PM
Hater is such an overused term around here.

Personally I would like Roger to break Sampras' great record of weeks at the top... but once Fed has done that, someone else can take over as #1 for all I care. :lol:
Of course it will be a tall task, but it is in no way impossible for Roger to reach #1 again. Go for it, champ! :banana:

HKz
11-09-2010, 03:19 AM
And miss out on all these?-
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz274/jgpbulls/reps.jpg
I don't think so!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

How surprising. Rafatards giving you good reps...

4 by mimi? How sad.
2 by Topspindoctor, wow that is such an achievement!

nadal_slam_king
11-09-2010, 04:17 AM
I suggest you delete all your posts preemptively.
This way, everybody wins.

And miss out on all these?-
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz274/jgpbulls/reps.jpg
I don't think so!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

bayvalle
11-09-2010, 09:01 AM
I bet Rafa is awfully scared of that clay season, all the big threats like Verdasco and Ferrer :o

Nadal need not worry about the two. Uncle Toni can always 'arrange' Rafa victories over those two (including Lopez).

Topspindoctor
11-09-2010, 09:08 AM
Nadal need not worry about the two. Uncle Toni can always 'arrange' Rafa victories over those two (including Lopez).

Or you know... he could win because he's a better clay courter? Shocking, I know.

Pirao666
11-09-2010, 09:21 AM
Nadal need not worry about the two. Uncle Toni can always 'arrange' Rafa victories over those two (including Lopez).

Damn, some people really take trolling to the next level. Like Nadal would need to arrange anything to beat those two (and anyone currently playing for that matter) on clay.

Jaz
11-09-2010, 09:25 AM
And miss out on all these?-
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz274/jgpbulls/reps.jpg
I don't think so!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Those people are all on my ignore list... Basically your at 13 year old kid thinking about your points and posts aww...

bokehlicious
11-09-2010, 10:01 AM
4 by mimi? How sad.


Mimi would gladly have babies from any Rafatroll :shrug: :awww:

Orka_n
11-09-2010, 10:28 AM
How surprising. Rafatards giving you good reps...

4 by mimi? How sad.
2 by Topspindoctor, wow that is such an achievement!This is hilarious though: the reps of Topspindoctor do not have a comment attached. Which makes perfect sense - why would he talk to himself on nadal_slam_king's User CP that normally no one else can see?
And still he posts this screenshot... I gotta say this multiaccount rafatard isn't the most intelligent user on MTF. :lol:

But I guess thanks to this post, he will actually start commenting his goodreps on himself so this won't happen again. :rolleyes:

Pirao666
11-09-2010, 10:31 AM
This is hilarious though: the reps of Topspindoctor do not have a comment attached. Which makes perfect sense - why would he talk to himself on nadal_slam_king's User CP that normally no one else can see?
And still he posts this screenshot... I gotta say this multiaccount rafatard isn't the most intelligent user on MTF. :lol:

But I guess thanks to this post, he will actually start commenting his goodreps on himself so this won't happen again. :rolleyes:

Many times I don't leave a comment with my reps either, accusing someone of double accounts without any proof whatsoever is pretty weak. In fact I'm going to rep him just to piss you off.

bokehlicious
11-09-2010, 10:41 AM
Many times I don't leave a comment with my reps either, accusing someone of double accounts without any proof whatsoever is pretty weak. In fact I'm going to rep him just to piss you off.

You're probably its third account......... :shrug: :hug:

nadal_slam_king
11-09-2010, 10:43 AM
This is hilarious though: the reps of Topspindoctor do not have a comment attached. Which makes perfect sense - why would he talk to himself on nadal_slam_king's User CP that normally no one else can see?
And still he posts this screenshot... I gotta say this multiaccount rafatard isn't the most intelligent user on MTF. :lol:

But I guess thanks to this post, he will actually start commenting his goodreps on himself so this won't happen again. :rolleyes:

By that logic, I am mimi, Topspindoctor, brunocitron and now Pira! Genius, pure genius:yeah:

careergrandslam
11-09-2010, 10:48 AM
Mimi would gladly have babies from any Rafatroll :shrug: :awww:

what a disgusting comment to make.

careergrandslam
11-09-2010, 10:49 AM
This is hilarious though: the reps of Topspindoctor do not have a comment attached. Which makes perfect sense - why would he talk to himself on nadal_slam_king's User CP that normally no one else can see?
And still he posts this screenshot... I gotta say this multiaccount rafatard isn't the most intelligent user on MTF. :lol:

But I guess thanks to this post, he will actually start commenting his goodreps on himself so this won't happen again. :rolleyes:

LMAO.
delusional

Pirao666
11-09-2010, 10:50 AM
You're probably its third account......... :shrug: :hug:

I'll take as a compliment being accused by a troll such as you :wavey:

Orka_n
11-09-2010, 10:56 AM
Many times I don't leave a comment with my reps either, accusing someone of double accounts without any proof whatsoever is pretty weak. In fact I'm going to rep him just to piss you off.
By that logic, I am mimi, Topspindoctor, brunocitron and now Pira! Genius, pure genius:yeah:
LMAO.
delusional:spit: Multiaccount brigade to the rescue :haha:

Do you think writing the same thing to me thrice is going to convince me otherwise? :worship:

careergrandslam
11-09-2010, 10:56 AM
I'll take as a compliment being accused by a troll such as you :wavey:

ignore those trolls, their egos are hurt that rafa is dominating world tennis and is the most dominant athlete on this planet right now.

Sophocles
11-09-2010, 11:08 AM
By that logic, I am mimi, Topspindoctor, brunocitron and now Pira! Genius, pure genius:yeah:

Not mimi. She's a pleasant human being, & that is one thing you cannot fake. (Cf. tribalgeist.)

nadal_slam_king
11-09-2010, 12:34 PM
Not mimi. She's a pleasant human being, & that is one thing you cannot fake. (Cf. tribalgeist.)

Well I don't bully other posters for having an opinion on tennis :yeah:

Corey Feldman
11-09-2010, 12:44 PM
i've noticed some of these Nadal maniacs are losing their minds a bit again now that Fed is winning alot of titles and in finals lately, good to see it :yeah:

Pirao666
11-09-2010, 12:59 PM
i've noticed some of these Nadal maniacs are losing their minds a bit again now that Fed is winning alot of titles and in finals lately, good to see it :yeah:

Not unlike you, you must have suffered a great deal since the start of the clay season until now :lol:

Topspindoctor
11-09-2010, 01:04 PM
i've noticed some of these Nadal maniacs are losing their minds a bit again now that Fed is winning alot of titles and in finals lately, good to see it :yeah:

Not really, Olderer can keep winning his MM titles, doesn't make any difference, he's not gonna defend his AO next year :yeah:

Persimmon
11-09-2010, 01:05 PM
2011 will be like 2009. NID. Rafa already having shoulder issues.

AO Rafa
FO Fed
W Fed
USO Murray

:rolleyes::o

bokehlicious
11-09-2010, 01:38 PM
i've noticed some of these Nadal maniacs are losing their minds a bit again now that Fed is winning alot of titles and in finals lately, good to see it :yeah:

Of course they're shitting their pants, they know the old man isn't dead yet and as long as he keeps breathing he'll keep racking most non clay big titles...

Everko
11-09-2010, 01:41 PM
No way he gets back to number 1. Nadal has a bunch of points defened but next year federer will barely be a threat at the slams. If he fell this year just wait till you see him next year.

careergrandslam
11-09-2010, 02:16 PM
federer has resigned to the fact that he is now the MM king and rafa is the slam king.
the changing of the guard is now officially complete.
i'll be surprised if federer was even in the top 5 next year.

careergrandslam
11-09-2010, 02:19 PM
Of course they're shitting their pants, they know the old man isn't dead yet and as long as he keeps breathing he'll keep racking most non clay big titles...

like what?
hahahahaha

bokehlicious
11-09-2010, 02:21 PM
like what?
hahahahaha

The old man is still more prolific that Nadull off clay ;)

Everko
11-09-2010, 02:21 PM
like what?
hahahahaha

Basel and Stockholm. Legendary

Everko
11-09-2010, 02:22 PM
The old man is still more prolific that Nadull off clay ;)

who holds teh Wimbledon and US Open trophies? Wake up Piss Antonius, its 2010, quit daydreaming in 2004

bokehlicious
11-09-2010, 02:24 PM
who holds teh Wimbledon and US Open trophies? Wake up Piss Antonius, its 2010, quit daydreaming in 2004

Wait till the old man gets healthy and in full form again :shrug:

careergrandslam
11-09-2010, 02:24 PM
Basel and Stockholm. Legendary

ah yes, basel and stockholm, big titles those.
im sure rafa would trade his MM wimbledon and USO titles for slams such as basel and stockholm.

bokehlicious
11-09-2010, 02:26 PM
im sure rafa would trade his MM wimbledon and USO titles for slams such as basel and stockholm.

Fed still owns way more titles than Rafa there, no? :scratch:

careergrandslam
11-09-2010, 02:26 PM
Wait till the old man gets healthy and in full form again :shrug:

what so that he can get whipped by rafa for the 1000000000 time.

kyleskywalker007
11-09-2010, 02:27 PM
Why did this turn into another Fed vs Nadal thread is anybodyīs guess....Especially when most sane people are saying Fedīs return to the top would need an increase in his own performance but also a decrease of nadalīs, especially in clay season.

careergrandslam
11-09-2010, 02:28 PM
Fed still owns way more titles than Rafa there, no? :scratch:

but how many did federer have at the same age as rafa.
fed has played way more slams to win those extra titles.

MalwareDie
11-09-2010, 02:31 PM
but how many did federer have at the same age as rafa.
fed has played way more slams to win those extra titles.

Federer at 24:

2 US Opens
4 Wimbledons

kyleskywalker007
11-09-2010, 02:34 PM
but how many did federer have at the same age as rafa.
fed has played way more slams to win those extra titles.


Is it so hard to comprehend that age is not an absolute measuring stick in tennis? Guys like Karlovic played their best tennis in his late 20's, and early 30's, some other's start playing great in his teens, but that doesn't mean he will keep playing that way. After all, a players "prime" seems to last for a limited number of years, let's say, just for an example, 6 years. If your prime lasts 6 years and you enter it at 19, you should start decreasing around 25, if you enter your prime at 26, it should last around 32 and so on....

I am not getting this numbers from any source, i am merely making them up for exemplificatory purposes, but surely it isn't so hard to understand, huh?

Everko
11-09-2010, 02:36 PM
Is it so hard to comprehend that age is not an absolute measuring stick in tennis? Guys like Karlovic played their best tennis in his late 20's, and early 30's, some other's start playing great in his teens, but that doesn't mean he will keep playing that way. After all, a players "prime" seems to last for a limited number of years, let's say, just for an example, 6 years. If your prime lasts 6 years and you enter it at 19, you should start decreasing around 25, if you enter your prime at 26, it should last around 32 and so on....

I am not getting this numbers from any source, i am merely making them up for exemplificatory purposes, but surely it isn't so hard to understand, huh?

what was the point of this post? Are you sayign Nadal will suck when he gets to be in his late 20s:o

kyleskywalker007
11-09-2010, 02:38 PM
what was the point of this post? Are you sayign Nadal will suck when he gets to be in his late 20s:o

Not that he's gonna suck, but certainly you shouldn't expect him to be winning at this rate until his 30's like some silly posters here seem to suggest.

Sophocles
11-09-2010, 02:46 PM
Federer at 24:

2 US Opens
4 Wimbledons

OWNED.

Now go away, troll.

Sophocles
11-09-2010, 02:47 PM
what was the point of this post? Are you sayign Nadal will suck when he gets to be in his late 20s:o

Why, don't you think he will? :o

Singularity
11-09-2010, 02:51 PM
but how many did federer have at the same age as rafa.
fed has played way more slams to win those extra titles.
If Nadal wins the AO he'll be two slams ahead. If he doesn't, he'll be one slam ahead.

At 25, he'll need to win 3 slams to maintain the lead.

Corey Feldman
11-09-2010, 03:11 PM
ah yes, basel and stockholm, big titles those.
im sure rafa would trade his MM wimbledon and USO titles for slams such as basel and stockholm.i'm sure Nadal would like 6 Wimbledon's and 5 US Opens

and even 1 year end Masters Cup

drazyc
11-09-2010, 03:58 PM
As long as Federer is playing I think he will be a contender for #1. When Federer realizes that it is impossible to challenge the top position, I think he will retire from the sport.

Personally I believed Federer was fading away after AO 2009. We all remember what happened after he smashed that racquet in Miami. He didn't look back. Since then I promised myself to never underestimate Fed. He is definitely not as stable as he was in 2004-2007. But those crazy days had to end some day. He is the next best player in the world, still winning tournaments, still beating most guys at the top level regularly. He is for sure a contender for #1.

It will be almost impossible for Nadal to repeat his results from April to September this year. I predict that he at least will lose 2000 points in the same period next year. Just replacing all 3 slam titles with finals corresponds to losing 2400 points. Federer had a poor clay court season which he probably will improve next year. I will also be surprised if Federer were to lose against any player outside top 4 at Wimbledon next year. The key for Fed is to have a good AO result (F or W).

Foxy
11-09-2010, 05:05 PM
i've noticed some of these Nadal maniacs are losing their minds a bit again now that Fed is winning alot of titles and in finals lately, good to see it :yeah:

Yeah, I haven't slept since rogie won Stockholm and Basel back-to-back. :(

luie
11-09-2010, 05:13 PM
2011 will be like 2009. NID. Rafa already having shoulder issues.

AO Rafa
FO Fed
W Fed
USO Murray

:rolleyes::o
Nice try, nothing is wrong with nadull, its a minor shoulder issue.He will be fresh & running like a rabbit for WTF.:o

samanosuke
11-09-2010, 05:17 PM
Yeah, I haven't slept since rogie won Stockholm and Basel back-to-back. :(

with you brain I would also have sleeping problems

Filo V.
11-09-2010, 11:32 PM
Well a lot of the reason he's been playing better is that he's been healthier. So now his body is back, you can noticeably see his movement/footwork much better than at the beginning of the season, which really drives the rest of his game. Also, with Annacone, he's playing bigger. And that aggression has payed off, as he's a better player when going for his shots and playing with authority, than when over-thinking.

I think he definitely wants #1 back and I agree that he's definitely going for the top ranking. He doesn't want to be shown up by Rafa/Nole/Murray, he still obviously has a burning desire to show everyone that he's still got it and he's still the best when he's at his best. I think he's always believed, when he plays well, he can and will beat anyone and is the #1, but maybe that confidence was breaking a bit with the losses. But, this is Roger Federer. Winners win. And when a winner has confidence, than that can go a long way and take him to great highs.

Expect this run of great form to continue on through the end of this year and next year, also. Roger is still a force to be reckon with, people.

fast_clay
11-09-2010, 11:43 PM
Winners win. And when a winner has confidence, than that can go a long way and take him to great highs.

yeah... look, the guy horded grandslam winning knowledge for so long... cast away his rivals like stalin... so much so only one other guy got a look in at that level and repeated it... the duopoly hasnt ended... not yet...

so at this stage you have to say he is the only other contender for the #1 ranking as we speak... maybe not a year ending #1... but, a fighting chance to break the record...

Il Primo Uomo
11-10-2010, 02:59 AM
Err..

Doha, Nadal Finalist. Federer Semi-Finalist
Aus, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer Winner
IW, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer R32
Miami, Nadal Semi-Finalist. Federer R 16
Mc. Nadal Winner. Federer N/a
Rome. Nadal Winner. Federer R32.
Estoril. Nadal N/a. Federer Semi-Finalist.
Madrid. Nadal Winner. Federer Finalist.
French Open. Nadal Winner. Federer Quarter-Finalist.

Clearly Federer likely to gain points, given AO.

Dear, Nadal only reached the quarters at last year OZ. He usually wins IW or make finals in Miami. The difference of points between reaching the quarters/SF and actually winning is still substantial.
Nadal is still going to rack up points during the spring early summer. hat makes you think Roger will keep up with his steadiness while it's been a minute since he's not that performant in Spring bar Madrid and RG?
And I love how you didn't include the WTF. :lol:

Nadal will stay at the top and yes you will have to deal with it.

Bye hater.

DorianGray7
11-10-2010, 03:21 AM
Unless there is a miracle noone but Nadal will be No. 1 for the next few years.

If Roger gets something like this:
AO: Federer
FO: Federer loses in the Final to Nadal
Wimbledon: Federer
USO: loses in the Final to Nadal

and then Fed takes most of the Hardcourt ATP 1000s and Nadal takes ALL of the clay 1000s, even then it would be very hard. I wouldn't mind the rivalry coming back though. I think it would be GREAT if we can see 4 straight Nadal-Federer finals next year. Hopefully Roger can win at least 1 out of 4 but man that's gonna be tough.

luie
11-10-2010, 03:22 AM
Dear, Nadal only reached the quarters at last year OZ. He usually wins IW or make finals in Miami. The difference of points between reaching the quarters/SF and actually winning is still substantial.
Nadal is still going to rack up points during the spring early summer. hat makes you think Roger will keep up with his steadiness while it's been a minute since he's not that performant in Spring bar Madrid and RG?
And I love how you didn't include the WTF. :lol:

Nadal will stay at the top and yes you will have to deal with it.

Bye hater.
Nadull is a grinding/moonballer, hater deal with it.:cool:

raahaat7
11-10-2010, 05:24 AM
Come August 2011 and Roger will be the No.1 again.

meigui1990
11-10-2010, 05:37 AM
If Federer wins Paris and WTF, it will probably be around 2000 pts in difference. His chances of regaining the top spot will become bigger in July or August next year.

bayvalle
11-10-2010, 06:11 AM
'Exemplificatory'?

kyleskywalker007
11-28-2010, 07:01 PM
BUMP!

Stats have been updated.

Well, after WTF, his assault for N°1 is at full flight. He once more defeated his rival Nadal in the finals and did so in style. He had arguably his best week since Australia, his ground game looked awesome, his footwork great and everything seemed to click.

Filo V.
11-28-2010, 09:50 PM
He's said it several times that #1 is a (his biggest) goal. He's out to prove to himself and everyone else that he's still the best player around and the king of tennis, and the end of the season sure has gone a long way in showing everyone that Roger isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Fujee
11-28-2010, 10:15 PM
I believe he can, Annacone has done something, revitalised this ageing champion into a focused match winner.

swisht4u
12-07-2010, 05:34 PM
“Rafa fully deserves to be No. 1, since he won the last three major tournaments,” Federer says. “But I know if I am playing well, there is no question that I am able to challenge him and get a chance to return to the top spot.”



There it is, nothing could be more clear.
Fed is going for the #1 spot, not just trying to do his best.
As good as Rafa is Fed feels he is better, even past his prime.
This isn't disrespectful he just feels he's still the better player.
This year after the AO Fed had a lung infection, without proper functioning of the lungs everything is downgraded including practices and matches themselves, not to mention any kind of scheduling to be in top form.

This was quoted Nov. 16, 2010.

Roger the Dodger
12-07-2010, 05:55 PM
Well a lot of the reason he's been playing better is that he's been healthier. So now his body is back, you can noticeably see his movement/footwork much better than at the beginning of the season, which really drives the rest of his game. Also, with Annacone, he's playing bigger. And that aggression has payed off, as he's a better player when going for his shots and playing with authority, than when over-thinking.

I think he definitely wants #1 back and I agree that he's definitely going for the top ranking. He doesn't want to be shown up by Rafa/Nole/Murray, he still obviously has a burning desire to show everyone that he's still got it and he's still the best when he's at his best. I think he's always believed, when he plays well, he can and will beat anyone and is the #1, but maybe that confidence was breaking a bit with the losses. But, this is Roger Federer. Winners win. And when a winner has confidence, than that can go a long way and take him to great highs.

Expect this run of great form to continue on through the end of this year and next year, also. Roger is still a force to be reckon with, people.

This.

bayvalle
12-08-2010, 06:32 AM
Come August 2011 and Roger will be the No.1 again.

Possible. Sporting a 5th WTF title, Fed must now be rarin' to take on Australia. Winning AO 2011 should set everything off.

If there is a single thing which will motivate Fed to aim for the No. 1 spot, it will be that 'one week' deficit to equal Pete's record weeks at No. 1. Looking back, Roger must have blamed himself endlessly last year for his inability to rake in enough points after he skipped small tournaments - tournaments which everyone fondly calls "micky mouse".

Allez
12-08-2010, 10:26 AM
There it is, nothing could be more clear.
Fed is going for the #1 spot, not just trying to do his best.
As good as Rafa is Fed feels he is better, even past his prime.
This isn't disrespectful he just feels he's still the better player.


I'm just curious how do you know what Roger FEELS ? If he has felt this way so strongly why the lopsided h2h against Nadal ?

sabina_RF_lee
12-08-2010, 11:03 AM
nadull will lose #1 spot as in 2009, he cant hold it for a long, he is pity
so who will be #1????????????
of course Federer _aka_JesusFed _Fedex_The G.O.A.T:worship:

Matt01
12-08-2010, 12:39 PM
nadull will lose #1 spot as in 2009, he cant hold it for a long, he is pity
so who will be #1????????????
of course Federer _aka_JesusFed _Fedex_The G.O.A.T:worship:


:spit:

Topspindoctor
12-08-2010, 12:46 PM
Olderer is not getting #1 again, calm down Fedtards.

Lleyton_
12-08-2010, 01:07 PM
He did the best he could after the USO so definitely there will be an opportunity some time next year assuming he will perform well in majors.

finn98
12-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Federer has a great chance if Nadal gets injured :yeah: