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Poll: Is Nadal still going to burn out before age 30?

2003
09-16-2010, 03:44 AM
In 2008 and much of 2009, and again after the 2010 Australian Open grand slam, a lot of pundits thought Nadals style of game had finally caught up to him, and that he was basically going to burn out by age 26 at the latest.

Yet in 2010, he played some wild ass scheduling, all the clay tournaments, heck even doubles a lot of the time as well.

He hasn't shown too many serious injuries since.

Is it possible Nadals previous injuries could have just been bad luck? Or do people think it's only a matter of time before he ends up on the casualty list?

Do you think he can remain a force at slams until at least age 29, which is what Federer is now? If so, thats one long ass career.

I think he can do it. I think his bigger worry is guys like Del Potro coming back to be honest.

emotion
09-16-2010, 03:45 AM
He is only getting older

Mjau!
09-16-2010, 03:47 AM
He'll keep having "career threatening" injuries but recover against all odds.

Johnny Groove
09-16-2010, 03:48 AM
Nadal's style is no longer as demanding as it once was. His serve is now legitly huge, and he is shortening the points with flatter groundstrokes.

That, and his smarter scheduling is helping him.

I only fear his upcoming schedule. Bangkok, Tokyo, and Shanghai all in a row so soon after a huge mental and physical USO.

Topspindoctor
09-16-2010, 04:08 AM
He's actually quite healthy, it's just the knees that is the problem. Nothing he can do about that except schedule smarter and tank more tournaments.

SheepleBuster
09-16-2010, 04:15 AM
I'd be surprised if he wins a title after 25. In fact, I will change my name. Oh wait. I already lost a bet and did that.

DartMarcus
09-16-2010, 04:26 AM
What a clownish thread. He has already burned out. This Nadal is a shadow of himself at the age of 12.
He even lost a set to some serbian journeyman in his last match. One word: retire.

The Magician
09-16-2010, 04:47 AM
He'll keep having "career threatening" injuries but recover against all odds.

I know it's amazing :worship: After having a career threatening injury and looking like he'd never be the same again, he recovers to peak form, wins the USO, and increases his serve speed by 10-15 mph, all by skipping Barcalona :eek: Maybe at Barcalona they beat his knees in the locker room, can't think of another way he could have such a miraculous comeback! (well I can, but...)

SheepleBuster
09-16-2010, 04:58 AM
What a clownish thread. He has already burned out. This Nadal is a shadow of himself at the age of 12.
He even lost a set to some serbian journeyman in his last match. One word: retire.

Make fun all you want but what goes up comes down. Here is what I say to Nadal fans. Prepare for years of abuse once your god starts slipping. And it will happen. Sooner rather than later someone is going to grow a pair of balls and play the right way against Nadal with belief. Nadal is a very good player with a huge amount of luck.

Sri
09-16-2010, 05:07 AM
30 is giving him too much. Everyone begins to fade by 30 (no matter how efficient your game is eg. Federer, Sampras). Some might argue that Nadal's decline will start much earlier due to his "intense" game.

SheepleBuster
09-16-2010, 05:11 AM
30 is giving him too much. Everyone begins to fade by 30 (no matter how efficient your game is eg. Federer, Sampras). Some might argue that Nadal's decline will start much earlier due to his "intense" game.

might argue or hope? I personally believe in using Voodoo dolls :devil:

Sri
09-16-2010, 05:14 AM
might argue or hope? I personally believe in using Voodoo dolls :devil:
I don't hope.. and to be honest I don't care.

But it does take a crazy zombie fan-boy to overlook all the chronic injuries Nadal has been carrying since a very young age.

tribalfusion
09-16-2010, 05:14 AM
Nadal is a very good player with a huge amount of luck.

The humor never ends.

juan77
09-16-2010, 05:24 AM
Don't worry, his uncle has a team of doctors dedicated to improving his health.

nadal_slam_king
09-16-2010, 05:38 AM
Will Rafa burn out before age 30 and give mercy to his haters?

If you pray hard enough anything is possible :yeah:


























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pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-16-2010, 05:41 AM
he wont be playin to a high standard in 3 years time

he may still be winning RG tho

nadal_slam_king
09-16-2010, 05:41 AM
He'll get better on grass, he'll start chippin and chargin (or killin and chargin).

tribalfusion
09-16-2010, 05:46 AM
he wont be playin to a high standard in 3 years time

he may still be winning RG tho

Those 2 statements are obviously incompatible.

DuMa
09-16-2010, 06:32 AM
who hasnt burnt out by the time theyre 30? 30 is the tennis death age.

Priam
09-16-2010, 06:35 AM
He probably has 2-3 good years left if he's healthy. He'll be retired before age 30 I feel.

nadal_slam_king
09-16-2010, 07:30 AM
It's wishful thinking to forecast a player's retirement when he is still improving and at a peak. You have to begin a downfall before you can sink to a valley. And even when Rafa does pass his prime he will hang on for many more years because his attitude is so much greater than others. He won't let his fundamentals slip, unlike Sampras and Federer.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-16-2010, 07:43 AM
Those 2 statements are obviously incompatible.

not realy mug clay era

al HC specialists

name 5 good clay courters who arent hard court specialists

tribalfusion
09-16-2010, 08:55 AM
not realy mug clay era

al HC specialists

name 5 good clay courters who arent hard court specialists

I will make it simple: winning a slam means you are playing at a high level by definition.

Enjoy.

Forehander
09-16-2010, 09:54 AM
Sorry but his ground game will still be top 5-10 material even if he loses his defensive ability. His injury crisis is over, his game continues to evolve and there's no doubt about that. By age 30 he'll still be top 10 I'm sure of it.

careergrandslam
09-16-2010, 10:01 AM
after 28years old every player is past their peak.
no point hanging around trying to eke out a career from that point on.

i hope rafa retires when he turns 28, leave while on top before all the young guys beat up on u and make a name for themselves beating up a washed up legend.
rafa should just go all out the next 4 years and grab all the titles he can grab and then retire and start a family with xisca.

and for the question where he might burn out before 28?
not with the new GOAT sampras serve he has.

he says he wont be playing until 30.
he says it here.


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Mjau!
09-16-2010, 03:49 PM
It's funny how "Nadaltards" are gloating about this since you people were the ones who freaked out and thought he was done 6 months ago. :rolleyes:

nadal_slam_king
09-16-2010, 03:52 PM
It's impossible to be "done". It's tendonitis, it comes and goes, never a career-threatening thing.

Chair Umpire
09-16-2010, 03:59 PM
It's funny how "Nadaltards" are gloating about this since you people were the ones who freaked out and thought he was done 6 months ago. :rolleyes:

It's more funny how fedtards and sodatards have put in doubt his tendinitis in 2009 since they were the first who started to foreseen (and even pray for) this kind of problems back in 2005.

Henry Kaspar
09-16-2010, 03:59 PM
Independent of Nadal's style, few players who suceed that early can maintain that level in the second half of their 20s.

So history is certainly not in favor of Nadal. Then again, he is a freak of nature, so who knows. But my baseline expectation is that he'll start losing the edge in a couple of years or so, even if he stays healthy.

nadal_slam_king
09-16-2010, 04:03 PM
Independent of Nadal's style, few players who suceed that early can maintain that level in the second half of their 20s.

So history is certainly not in favor of Nadal. Then again, he is a freak of nature, so who knows. But my baseline expectation is that he'll start losing the edge in a couple of years or so, even if he stays healthy.

But who has ever been on Rafa's level in history, physically....so I don't see how you can compare him to anyone of the past. This ain't Jim Courier!

oranges
09-16-2010, 04:18 PM
By 30, it can hardly be called a burn-out :spit: Late 20s to 30s is normal time to decline and often retire altogehter

lazybear
09-16-2010, 04:52 PM
not with the new GOAT sampras serve he has.


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delpiero7
09-16-2010, 06:23 PM
Haters were dancing with delight when he lost to Soderling at RG, missed Wimbledon, got his ass handed to him by Del Potro and went 0-3 at the WTFs. They were certain it was all over for him and he'd already burnt out.

Yet here we are just 9 months later and he's back at number 1 by a HUGE margin, won 3 slams in a row and completed the career slam. The haters will be seething forever as it is now just a case of how much Rafa can achieve, rather than what he can achieve.

Even if he burnt out tomorrow, he's won pretty much everything that's worth winning (except for WTFs), finished as year end No. 1 twice and owns a +ve H2H over pretty much all his main rivals, owning most of them.

Haters are always gonna hate. It'll just be fun seeing how much they'll be writhing by the time Nadal is done.

nadal_slam_king
09-16-2010, 06:29 PM
Haters were dancing with delight when he lost to Soderling at RG, missed Wimbledon, got his ass handed to him by Del Potro and went 0-3 at the WTFs. They were certain it was all over for him and he'd already burnt out.

Yet here we are just 9 months later and he's back at number 1 by a HUGE margin, won 3 slams in a row and completed the career slam. The haters will be seething forever as it is now just a case of how much Rafa can achieve, rather than what he can achieve.

Even if he burnt out tomorrow, he's won pretty much everything that's worth winning (except for WTFs), finished as year end No. 1 twice and owns a +ve H2H over pretty much all his main rivals, owning most of them.

Haters are always gonna hate. It'll just be fun seeing how much they'll be writhing by the time Nadal is done.
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star
09-16-2010, 06:34 PM
I don't think he'll play past 30.

The way he's talked about his career in the past has been basically that 10 years is a long time to be playing tennis, but it's a short time in life, so he needs to give everything he can to tennis for that relatively short period of time.

It will be interesting to see what Nadal does after tennis.

nadal_slam_king
09-16-2010, 06:35 PM
I don't think he'll play past 30.

The way he's talked about his career in the past has been basically that 10 years is a long time to be playing tennis, but it's a short time in life, so he needs to give everything he can to tennis for that relatively short period of time.

It will be interesting to see what Nadal does after tennis.

Doubt he'll stop playing tennis, he's obsessed with fitness.

Topspin Forehand
09-16-2010, 06:45 PM
It's impossible to be "done". It's tendonitis, it comes and goes, never a career-threatening thing.
Tell that to Darren Cahill. Also tendinitis can lead to more serious injuries.

Persimmon
09-16-2010, 07:19 PM
If he reaches double digits in the slams I don't think he cares about this. Most players burn out in their late 20s anyway.

The Magician
09-16-2010, 07:58 PM
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I understand the mods are taking a hands off approach with the flood of terrible threads by Nadaltards, can't blame them for that. But do we really need every thread to be obvious multiple accounts posting incoherent nonsense? These 4 aren't even half the ones polluting every thread :rolleyes:

Sapeod
09-16-2010, 08:02 PM
He'll start slumping before he's 27.

Chair Umpire
09-16-2010, 08:08 PM
I understand the mods are taking a hands off approach with the flood of terrible threads by Nadaltards, can't blame them for that. But do we really need every thread to be obvious multiple accounts posting incoherent nonsense? These 4 aren't even half the ones polluting every thread :rolleyes:

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PistolSampras
09-16-2010, 09:24 PM
I think Nadal will start to declive at age 27/28, at age 30 he won't be any competitive.
Any way he's got enough time to make a HUGE GS amount...

FormerRafaFan
09-16-2010, 10:33 PM
Actually, if this was a couple of years ago I might have said yes. However, he is still going strong 7+ years into his career. So, I really don't see that happening now. he's also smarter with his schedule, so that helps a lot too.

cocrcici
09-16-2010, 11:09 PM
Nadal will transcedent injuries(spirit over matter).:cool:

MalwareDie
09-17-2010, 12:18 AM
I understand the mods are taking a hands off approach with the flood of terrible threads by Nadaltards, can't blame them for that. But do we really need every thread to be obvious multiple accounts posting incoherent nonsense? These 4 aren't even half the ones polluting every thread :rolleyes:

Sri is not the same as the other three sock puppets.

Singularity
09-17-2010, 12:43 AM
Nadal is only 24, so it would be surprising if he had burnt out by now. Even Hewitt was playing pretty well at this age (in 2005).

It will be interesting to see what happens, but Federer seemed invincible in 2006 and early 07, only to have a big drop off in the rest of the year. From that point on, he wasn't the same player. Given how much Nadal depends on his footwork, if he loses a step or two like Federer did, it could be fatal.

The Magician
09-17-2010, 12:49 AM
Sri is not the same as the other three sock puppets.

I figured all the posters with Indian flags who are Nadulltards were Start Da Game alt accounts, especially since he's banned and some posters I've never seen before showed up.

finishingmove
09-17-2010, 01:02 AM
simple answer: there's no way to know.

but i don't see him playing after 30.

Arakasi
09-17-2010, 08:14 AM
I would be very suprised if Nadal was still on tour at 30.

Even ignoring the physicality of his tennis, there is only so long you can play top flight tennis. He has been at the top of the sport for over 5 years now.

I would expect his level to begin dropping at 26/27. Who knows how that will translate ranking wise? I suspect once he's gone from the top retirement won't be far off.

nadal_slam_king
09-17-2010, 08:57 AM
Rafa will play to an older age than Federer.

2003
05-25-2011, 05:14 AM
Make fun all you want but what goes up comes down. Here is what I say to Nadal fans. Prepare for years of abuse once your god starts slipping. And it will happen. Sooner rather than later someone is going to grow a pair of balls and play the right way against Nadal with belief. Nadal is a very good player with a huge amount of luck.

Interesting words;

Of course, its always hard to say when someone neally blows him off the court how influentual Nadals level was in it all.

Mimi
05-25-2011, 05:36 AM
he already burnt out before 24 :shrug:

stewietennis
05-25-2011, 05:38 AM
In his late 20s, Nadal doesn't need to worry about injuries but more on natural wear and tear. He can go the route of older generations and play lower events to pad his records but he doesn't seem the type. He should just play the minimum number of tournaments and seriously contend for the French to extend his career to 30.

shiaben
05-25-2011, 06:14 AM
What's with this anal fixation on Del Potro???

People forget that Gonzalez and Tsonga defeated Nadal at the slams in one sided matches, and then Nadal came back and defeated both of these guys in subsequent tournaments.

abraxas21
05-25-2011, 07:35 AM
he'll play for quite a few more years

i'd like to talk about the reasons for nadal's durability and capabilities to recover from 'career threatening' injuries but if i were honest, i'd probly be banned so...

atennisfan
05-25-2011, 12:35 PM
he'll play for quite a few more years

i'd like to talk about the reasons for nadal's durability and capabilities to recover from 'career threatening' injuries but if i were honest, i'd probly be banned so...

Please spill the beans!

Is it steroids? HGH?

MaxPower
05-25-2011, 12:52 PM
Age is just a number. What matters is the real body age so to speak. Nadal has an explosive and demanding game style. It puts more pressure on the joints and ligaments. Wouldn't be suprised if his knees and hips are already those of a 35 year old. Only today's improved medical technology can save him. Also possibly that he can take a full year off (or be forced to it by injury) and that could prolong his career into the 30s.

But I would predict the later stages of his career to mirror a better version of Hewitts. I'd be very surprised if Nadal is in the top10 by 30. In fact I think it is very unlikely

tennis2tennis
05-25-2011, 01:00 PM
He'll keep having "career threatening" injuries but recover against all odds.
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NadalesDios
05-25-2011, 01:01 PM
he'll play for quite a few more years

i'd like to talk about the reasons for nadal's durability and capabilities to recover from 'career threatening' injuries but if i were honest, i'd probly be banned so...

Talking about illegality with that fixer in your avatar... hilarious :lol: :lol: :lol:

jcempire
05-25-2011, 01:07 PM
Yes, He is over spend