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Federer vs. Nadal at the Very Same Age

NadalesDios
09-14-2010, 03:40 AM
Nadal

Overall Record 460-98
Winning Pct. .824
Titles 42
Major Titles 9
Majors Played 26
Davis Cup Titles 3
Olympic Gold Medals 1
Longest Win Streak 32
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 60
Record vs. No. 1 14-6

Federer

Overall Record 390-119
Winning Pct. .766
Titles 33
Major Titles 6
Majors Played 27
Davis Cup Titles 0
Olympic Gold Medals 0
Longest Win Streak 34
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 93
Record vs. No. 1 2-3

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2010-09-13/201009131284404343670.html

Not bad for Nadal, no? :lol:

Luinir
09-14-2010, 03:43 AM
nadal has 42 titles, not 32.

ys
09-14-2010, 03:43 AM
Nadal

Overall Record 460-98
Winning Pct. .824
Titles 32
Major Titles 9
Majors Played 26
Davis Cup Titles 3
Olympic Gold Medals 1
Longest Win Streak 32
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 60
Record vs. No. 1 14-6



It's 42 titles Nadal. Not 32.

NadalesDios
09-14-2010, 03:45 AM
nadal has 42 titles, not 32.

Fixed now.

CCBH
09-14-2010, 03:56 AM
Pretty remarkable. Winning % is outstanding and 9/26 Slams vs 6/27 :worship:

Waterfox
09-14-2010, 03:59 AM
Nadal

Overall Record 460-98
Winning Pct. .824
Titles 32
Major Titles 9
Majors Played 26
Davis Cup Titles 3
Olympic Gold Medals 1
Longest Win Streak 32
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 60
Record vs. No. 1 14-6

Federer

Overall Record 390-119
Winning Pct. .766
Titles 33
Major Titles 6
Majors Played 27
Davis Cup Titles 0
Olympic Gold Medals 0
Longest Win Streak 34
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 93
Record vs. No. 1 2-3

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2010-09-13/201009131284404343670.html

Not bad for Nadal, no? :lol:

42 titles!

Pirata.
09-14-2010, 04:07 AM
I'd like to see these stats when they both retire. Until then, it's pointless numbers.

Nadal is not GOAT tier yet.

Ackms421
09-14-2010, 04:14 AM
I'd like to see these stats when they both retire. Until then, it's pointless numbers.

Nadal is not GOAT tier yet.

He *is* GOATish though. I mean, he's worth a mention in the discussion. And, by God, he's only 24! What I'm glad to see on these boards following this victory is that a lot of haters are showing some respect (begrudgingly though it may be). I mean, this kid has done an awful lot of special things awfully quickly.

LaFuria
09-14-2010, 04:17 AM
When Rafa "Jesus Christ" Nadal is Federer's age he will have 100000000000000 slams and they will have abolished the ATP rankings because after he spends the next 4 years as number 1 without any signs of slowing down, they won't see the point of keeping track anymore. Vamos!

Bilbo
09-14-2010, 04:38 AM
what a player this nadal

FormerRafaFan
09-14-2010, 04:44 AM
Great stats, great player!

Thanks for posting :)

swisht4u
09-14-2010, 04:48 AM
I'd like to see stats starting from their first GS.

Many times players don't get serious until something clicks for them, before that time they may have not decided to really work like they should.
Fed had great skills early on but was a hot head and didn't do the things he should have till later.
I don't know if Safin ever did.

cutesteve22
09-14-2010, 04:52 AM
so what

The Magician
09-14-2010, 04:53 AM
This thread implies Nadal is getting older, when in fact he top-spinned father time to death a long time ago! Nadal will always be #1 until our planet evaporates, and then Rafa will transcend into a godly being who will create the new world in his own Vamos! Bye OP hater :wavey:

wackykid
09-14-2010, 05:38 AM
try to compare borg with nadal at the same age...


regards,
wacky

Arkulari
09-14-2010, 07:27 AM
yeah and they both started winning Slams at the same age...

oh wait... :scratch:

almost 22 vs barely 19 :worship:

if we're going to compare then do it at the same age: Roger turned 24 in August 2005 and Rafa turned 24 in June 2010, what are their stats against each other in that year? ;)

(absolutely pointless)

Forehander
09-14-2010, 07:59 AM
It's unfortunate Nadal only played this style of tennis this year. Back in 2006-2009 he was already physically strong enough to pull of such an offensive power game (he had better knees too back then). I would blame Toni Nadal's coaching for it though. If he started playing like this from 2006, he would have defeated many more records already.

Allez
09-14-2010, 08:31 AM
Nadal

Overall Record 460-98
Winning Pct. .824
Titles 42
Major Titles 9
Majors Played 26
Davis Cup Titles 3
Olympic Gold Medals 1
Longest Win Streak 32
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 60
Record vs. No. 1 14-6

Federer

Overall Record 390-119
Winning Pct. .766
Titles 33
Major Titles 6
Majors Played 27
Davis Cup Titles 0
Olympic Gold Medals 0
Longest Win Streak 34
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 93
Record vs. No. 1 2-3

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2010-09-13/201009131284404343670.html

Not bad for Nadal, no? :lol:

Unbelievable :worship:

Voo de Mar
09-14-2010, 09:44 AM
Numbers of tournaments played at 9th major triumph:

Nadal - 136
Federer - 156

Good stats but IMO you should have added number of "Masters" titles:

Nadal - 0
Federer - 2

Nadal needs to win "Masters" and since that moment he can fight only with the history of tennis.

_Cell-chuk
09-14-2010, 09:57 AM
Nadal

Overall Record 460-98
Winning Pct. .824
Titles 42
Major Titles 9
Majors Played 26
Davis Cup Titles 3
Olympic Gold Medals 1
Longest Win Streak 32
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 60
Record vs. No. 1 14-6

Federer

Overall Record 390-119
Winning Pct. .766
Titles 33
Major Titles 6
Majors Played 27
Davis Cup Titles 0
Olympic Gold Medals 0
Longest Win Streak 34
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 93
Record vs. No. 1 2-3

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2010-09-13/201009131284404343670.html

Not bad for Nadal, no? :lol:


can you please post the same analysis with the clay vs non-clay differentiator

that should be giving a more accurate result

born_on_clay
09-14-2010, 11:27 AM
Nadal

Overall Record 460-98
Winning Pct. .824
Titles 42
Major Titles 9
Majors Played 26
Davis Cup Titles 3
Olympic Gold Medals 1
Longest Win Streak 32
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 60
Record vs. No. 1 14-6

Federer

Overall Record 390-119
Winning Pct. .766
Titles 33
Major Titles 6
Majors Played 27
Davis Cup Titles 0
Olympic Gold Medals 0
Longest Win Streak 34
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 93
Record vs. No. 1 2-3

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2010-09-13/201009131284404343670.html

Not bad for Nadal, no? :lol:

remarkable stats, really :)
the future belongs to Rafa :cool:

wackykid
09-15-2010, 01:12 AM
yeah and they both started winning Slams at the same age...

oh wait... :scratch:

almost 22 vs barely 19 :worship:

if we're going to compare then do it at the same age: Roger turned 24 in August 2005 and Rafa turned 24 in June 2010, what are their stats against each other in that year? ;)

(absolutely pointless)

that is why should compare between nadal and borg instead... nadal turn pro at age 15... won 1st slam at 19... and borg is born in june too...!


regards,
wacky

careergrandslam
09-15-2010, 03:06 AM
yeah and they both started winning Slams at the same age...

oh wait... :scratch:

almost 22 vs barely 19 :worship:

if we're going to compare then do it at the same age: Roger turned 24 in August 2005 and Rafa turned 24 in June 2010, what are their stats against each other in that year? ;)

(absolutely pointless)

u dont get it.

the whole point is nadal is faster than federer's pace.
nadal won at age 19 while federer only won at 22.
at age 24 nadal is already well ahead of federer at the same age.
nadal is better than federer at such a young age.

because nadal won earlier, nadal has a better chance to overhaul federer's total.

careergrandslam
09-15-2010, 03:09 AM
can you please post the same analysis with the clay vs non-clay differentiator

that should be giving a more accurate result

if ur taking away clay results, then take away hard court results.
nadal's best surface and federer's best surface.

Topspindoctor
09-15-2010, 03:13 AM
It's unfortunate Nadal only played this style of tennis this year. Back in 2006-2009 he was already physically strong enough to pull of such an offensive power game (he had better knees too back then). I would blame Toni Nadal's coaching for it though. If he started playing like this from 2006, he would have defeated many more records already.

Agreed. Rafa was a clown on hard courts until 2008 :(

bad gambler
09-15-2010, 03:29 AM
Nadal needs to win "Masters" and since that moment he can fight only with the history of tennis.

Nobody remembers who won Masters, it's the slams that defines a legacy

Arkulari
09-15-2010, 04:12 AM
u dont get it.

the whole point is nadal is faster than federer's pace.
nadal won at age 19 while federer only won at 22.
at age 24 nadal is already well ahead of federer at the same age.
nadal is better than federer at such a young age.

because nadal won earlier, nadal has a better chance to overhaul federer's total.

I dunno which double account you are but I'll answer just this once:
not every player peak at the same age, some start winning Slams at 18, others do at 24, it doesn't make them better or worse than others, it just proves that maturity comes at different ages :shrug:

Rafa needs to have more 2/3 GS for several years to catch up with the rhythm Roger set when he started peaking ;)

He is young and has lots of time but we should compare when both are retired or Rafa surpasses Roger's Slam count and weeks at #1 ;)

wackykid
09-15-2010, 05:00 AM
I dunno which double account you are but I'll answer just this once:
not every player peak at the same age, some start winning Slams at 18, others do at 24, it doesn't make them better or worse than others, it just proves that maturity comes at different ages :shrug:

Rafa needs to have more 2/3 GS for several years to catch up with the rhythm Roger set when he started peaking ;)

He is young and has lots of time but we should compare when both are retired or Rafa surpasses Roger's Slam count and weeks at #1 ;)

yes we should compare when both are retired... different players peak at different age so it's pointless to compare federer and nadal at the same age... sampras was at faster pace than federer in mid-20s but federer caught up later... borg is faster than everyone else including nadal at the same age but he retired suddenly...

if one still insist on comparison nadal with someone else... then the comparison should be against someone who peak around the same age too... and borg will be the closest...


regards,
wacky

ogre
09-15-2010, 06:01 AM
Yes, Nadal is 'on track' to achieve a bettter career record than Federer. He may acutally achieve this, and I hope he does. But lets not get carried away. That is one heck of a track to follow from this point!

Don't forget, at age 22..Hewitt was way ahead of Federer and in the exact same era. It is matching Federers record from here on that is the biggest challenge. It is possible, but odds are against it. And for the record, I like Nadal more than I like Federer, but you still have to give Federer true credit.

Voo de Mar
09-15-2010, 07:27 AM
Nobody remembers who won Masters, it's the slams that defines a legacy

People say it the same about Davis Cup so I don't see any reason to show some stats which includes Davis Cup but doesn't Masters.

Jaz
09-15-2010, 09:23 AM
Age is irrelevant.

This is not school! People peak at different times. The whole point of Federer was that he is/was so consistent for such a long period of time. From 2005 onwards, Federer was in the finals of practically all the grand-slam final event. I'm having a tough time imagining Nadal in the final of anything beyond 2011.