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USO10 SF WWW : Federer [2] Vs. Djokovic [3]

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 03:27 AM
In windy conditions, I reckon Federer's experience will get him through. Normal conditions, Novak can take this if he plays like he did before the QFs.

HDW
09-09-2010, 03:29 AM
fed in 4

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 03:29 AM
Tennis loses every time Federina wins. Nole in 4.

Calidreth
09-09-2010, 03:29 AM
Federer in 4 tight sets.

SheepleBuster
09-09-2010, 03:30 AM
Please Novak!! And I say this as Rog's fan

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 03:31 AM
Tennis loses every time Federina wins. Nole in 4.

Sod off, you mutt.

Bremen
09-09-2010, 03:31 AM
Please Novak!! And I say this as Rog's fan

Then you're not really a fan.

dombrfc
09-09-2010, 03:33 AM
Tennis loses every time Federina wins. Nole in 4.

You're not a tennis fan.

Pirata.
09-09-2010, 03:34 AM
Fed in 4

SheepleBuster
09-09-2010, 03:35 AM
Then you're not really a fan.

I am a big fan of Roger. I still have nightmares for that AO final and the Wimbledon 5 setter. Nadal is playing much better now...

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 03:35 AM
You're not a tennis fan.

Federer hasn't deserved to win anything since 2007 AO. All his slams after were a result of other players choking (Nadal W2007, Djoker USO 2007, Mugza USO 2008, Soderling RG 2009, Duck W2009).

ZaZoo)
09-09-2010, 03:36 AM
Fed in 4, praying for Nole.

Jaz
09-09-2010, 03:37 AM
Federer hasn't deserved to win anything since 2007 AO. All his slams after were a result of other players choking (Nadal W2007, Djoker USO 2007, Mugza USO 2008, Soderling RG 2009, Duck W2009).

Roddick choked? W2009. It was 5 fucking sets and roddick played out of his mind. AO 2010 was vintage federer. Same with USO 2008.

Calidreth
09-09-2010, 03:37 AM
Ya and thats his fault huh topspin? Oh and USO 2007, 2008, and RG 2009 were all straight set wins, how is not deserving.

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 03:38 AM
Federer hasn't deserved to win anything since 2007 AO. All his slams after were a result of other players choking (Nadal W2007, Djoker USO 2007, Mugza USO 2008, Soderling RG 2009, Duck W2009).

:crying2:

BigJohn
09-09-2010, 03:39 AM
Is it a slam? Yes

Is there mono? No

Then Federer.

bad gambler
09-09-2010, 03:40 AM
Roger

jcreback
09-09-2010, 03:41 AM
My concern would be Djokovic having to play Federer after playing a guy who wasn't actually playing tennis today.

prafull
09-09-2010, 03:42 AM
Judging by QF performances Novak in 3 with one of them being close.

gulzhan
09-09-2010, 03:42 AM
Nole should be able to take a set, not more. Fed in 4.

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 03:42 AM
Ya and thats his fault huh topspin? Oh and USO 2007, 2008, and RG 2009 were all straight set wins, how is not deserving.

Djokovic had 6-5 40-00 in first set and choked. Then had set points in second too. Choked as well. He was outplaying Fedmug all match, but his nerves gave out. Murray in 2008 was nervous since it was his first GS final. RG 2009, Soderling simply bent over since apparently he was happy with just beating Nadal :o

Orka_n
09-09-2010, 03:42 AM
Fed in 4 or 5.

TennisAddicted
09-09-2010, 03:42 AM
Djokovic is the biggest clown of the atp tour.
Federer in 3 easy sets.

DorianGray7
09-09-2010, 03:43 AM
Novak is toast. Most likely in 4.

Read it and weep haters.

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 03:43 AM
Djokovic had 6-5 40-00 in first set and choked. Then had set points in second too. Choked as well. He was outplaying Fedmug all match, but his nerves gave out. Murray in 2008 was nervous since it was his first GS final. RG 2009, Soderling simply bent over since apparently he was happy with just beating Nadal :o

:crying2:

guga2120
09-09-2010, 03:46 AM
Hopefully Novak, he will have a good chance if its cool and not windy.

Roger, will most likely win though in 4.

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 03:49 AM
2007 USO novak loses to federer in the final.
2008 USO novak loses to federer in the semifinal.
2009 USO novak loses to federer in the semifinal.
2010 USO novak loses to federer in the semifinal.

this will be complete and utter ownage of novak djokovic by roger federer at the USO.

Quakes
09-09-2010, 03:50 AM
Fed in 4 or 5, taking more than 4 hours.

Novak will choke it away in the end, but Fed will be left exhausted - more exhausted than after last year's semi.

Then Fed succumbs to Nadal in the final. :sad:

DorianGray7
09-09-2010, 03:51 AM
The only question is...

Will Roger gift us a tweener again this year against Djokovic?

Mimi
09-09-2010, 03:52 AM
Fed in 4 or 5, taking more than 4 hours.

Novak will choke it away in the end, but Fed will be left exhausted - more exhausted than after last year's semi.

Then Fed succumbs to Nadal in the final. :sad:

don't think so, fed woudl kill rafa should they have a chance to meet in final

Sophocles
09-09-2010, 03:52 AM
Don't respond to Topspindoctor, he's a moronic troll & obvious double account.

This match is too close to call. Any result, except perhaps Djoker in straights, is possible.

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 03:53 AM
don't think so, fed woudl kill rafa should they have a chance to meet in final

I agree, he would kill Rafa just like in RG2008, W2008 and AO2009 :haha:

Sophocles
09-09-2010, 03:54 AM
don't think so, fed woudl kill rafa should they have a chance to meet in final

Not if he's had a 5-hour 5-setter against Djoker the previous day & Nadal's had a straight-sets canter against Youzhny.

Mimi
09-09-2010, 03:55 AM
I agree, he would kill Rafa just like in RG2008, W2008 and AO2009 :haha:

I love Rafa, but this is a fast hard court, not clay :p

Infinity
09-09-2010, 03:56 AM
Roger in 3, two of them might be close.

MalwareDie
09-09-2010, 03:57 AM
Don't respond to Topspindoctor, he's a moronic troll & obvious double account.

Yep.

gbmkc
09-09-2010, 03:58 AM
Novak used to ba a contender. Now he's just a one-slam wonder. I'm being honest not hateful.

Federer is actually hungry. He'll take it in 4.

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 04:02 AM
Take away Fed's service winners and he has about twice more UE than winners :o IF he has a bad serving day against Novak, he'll get roasted in straights.

LaFuria
09-09-2010, 04:04 AM
Take away Fed's service winners and he has about twice more UE than winners :o IF he has a bad serving day against Novak, he'll get roasted in straights.


Take away Sampras' serve and he doesn't win 14 grand slams. Serving is kind of important on fast court tennis.

sabina_RF_lee
09-09-2010, 04:08 AM
Federer hasn't deserved to win anything since 2007 AO. All his slams after were a result of other players choking (Nadal W2007, Djoker USO 2007, Mugza USO 2008, Soderling RG 2009, Duck W2009).

You stupid mug:baby:, Roger makes them to choke and play bad, its all have been said

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 04:09 AM
I love Rafa, but this is a fast hard court, not clay :p

exactly.

remember rafas ROS is awful, he struggled to return lopez's serve.
no way he can return federer's serve.

and rafa stuggled against lopez's slice, because this surface takes slice well if its done properly.
fed has the best slice.
lopez sliced to rafas backhand and approached the net and covered the CC pass.
rafa stuggled with this too.

rafa is in big big trouble if he makes the final and roger is his opponent.
i wouldnt be surprised if rafa got humiliated like soderling was tonight by federer.

scary stuff!

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 04:09 AM
Take away Sampras' serve and he doesn't win 14 grand slams. Serving is kind of important on fast court tennis.

I know :o

That's why I love RG. All serve mugs tend to get exposed there just like Sampras did :wavey:

sabina_RF_lee
09-09-2010, 04:10 AM
Roger in 3 please :p

Ivanatis
09-09-2010, 04:14 AM
early final imo, could definitely go either way

go Roger

Mechlan
09-09-2010, 04:18 AM
This could be really close if Djokovic comes to play and is just flat out aggressive. Will depend on the serving and who takes their chances. Oh, and depends on who wins the first semifinal of course. :p

Deivid23
09-09-2010, 04:21 AM
Hard to see Nole winning this when some WTA players are serving better than him lately :o

Ivanatis
09-09-2010, 04:27 AM
don't think so, fed woudl kill rafa should they have a chance to meet in final

mimi at it again:hug:

JediFed
09-09-2010, 04:31 AM
All serve mugs tend to get exposed there just like Sampras did


Pity then that Roger has a French crown.

Or perhaps that was simply Red concrete? :D

Mimi
09-09-2010, 04:32 AM
exactly.

remember rafas ROS is awful, he struggled to return lopez's serve.
no way he can return federer's serve.

and rafa stuggled against lopez's slice, because this surface takes slice well if its done properly.
fed has the best slice.
lopez sliced to rafas backhand and approached the net and covered the CC pass.
rafa stuggled with this too.

rafa is in big big trouble if he makes the final and roger is his opponent.
i wouldnt be surprised if rafa got humiliated like soderling was tonight by federer.

scary stuff!

yes, I don't want rafa to get humiliated in the final :hysteric:

Mimi
09-09-2010, 04:33 AM
mimi at it again:hug:

:hysteric::hysteric:

tektonac
09-09-2010, 04:34 AM
c'mon nole, take the smug face out.

calvinhobbes
09-09-2010, 04:34 AM
Federer hasn't deserved to win anything since 2007 AO. All his slams after were a result of other players choking (Nadal W2007, Djoker USO 2007, Mugza USO 2008, Soderling RG 2009, Duck W2009).

Nobody deserve to win. Every win must be fought with all the resources at hand and against whoever is across the net. Sometimes against haters than proclaim being "fans".

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 04:49 AM
c'mon nole, take the smug face out.

:haha:

swisht4u
09-09-2010, 04:58 AM
Fed in 3. No one can stop the old man. :wavey:

tektonac
09-09-2010, 05:06 AM
:haha:

you look constipated?

Priam
09-09-2010, 05:53 AM
Can Nole avoid losing 4 yrs in a row?

Fed in 3.

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 05:56 AM
you look constipated?

:haha:
:wavey:

Arkulari
09-09-2010, 05:58 AM
Roger in 4 or 5, I think

kinski76
09-09-2010, 05:59 AM
Federer hasn't deserved to win anything since 2007 AO. All his slams after were a result of other players choking (Nadal W2007, Djoker USO 2007, Mugza USO 2008, Soderling RG 2009, Duck W2009).

Denial is more than a river in Egypt, it seems. Under normal, no-choke circumstances from either player, the safe bet would be Fed in 4. Djoko has had a nice progress in this tournament so far, so it could be a tight one, but I doubt it'll be a five-setter.

HarryMan
09-09-2010, 06:25 AM
Fed should win this one in three or four. I haven't been much impressed with Djokovic's level of play. His serve has been poor and he wasn't able to handle the windy conditions as well as Federer did. Federer has played some of his bets tennis in this tournament so far and I believe can beat anyone not named Nadal playing this level of tennis.

Djokovic can make it competitive if he plays his best as he has proven over the years but I don't think he has it in him to beat Federer. Let's see.

Daniel
09-09-2010, 06:38 AM
roger in straight sets

NikolaBGD
09-09-2010, 06:56 AM
So many afraid Fed fans :)

It could go either way, Novak regain his serve, confidence, last two matches with Fed were close, Nole won in Basel, Fed in Canada.

C'mon guys, NY isn't Magellan's passage, there will no hurrican wind in saturday:

http://www.wunderground.com/US/NY/New_York.html

...ideal temperature and no strong wind.

If Nole stay focused and calm, he will win in 4, otherwise, Fed will be winner.

lazybear
09-09-2010, 07:06 AM
I am a big fan of Roger. I still have nightmares for that AO final and the Wimbledon 5 setter. Nadal is playing much better now...

You go down with your player if you have to. I don't know how many times i said to myself i won't watch their Slam finals anymore, yet, i watch every time. I think the only part i didn't watch was the 08 Wimby final, second tie-break. I had panic attacks, lol. I'll admit, i also missed a couple of match points, it's easier to process the pain if i don't watch the match point. :) Point is, you gotta watch it. You watched all of his 16 win right? What if he does it this time? With some miraculous shot, in a tight match? You wouldn't wanna miss that, trust me, it's nowhere near the same from replay.

Man up, and watch this thing if it happens, and feel sorry for Roger is he loses, and cheer like a maniac if he wins. That's what a fan does. Djoker will be tough, he sort out his ground game, and serving a higher percentage in recent matches, it can go either way i think, Rog has to play better from the baseline, and maintain his great serving. C'mon Roger!

finn98
09-09-2010, 07:26 AM
Nole has no chance :)
Fed in 3

FlameOn
09-09-2010, 07:32 AM
This is Nole's best chance in ages. He's been playing really well, well they both have. But Federer rarely plays his very best against Nole.

bokehlicious
09-09-2010, 07:37 AM
Rafatrolls again discussing their matador on a Fed-Nole thread :yeah: keep it up you champs :worship:

:retard:

Elena.
09-09-2010, 07:42 AM
This is Nole's best chance in ages. He's been playing really well

Exactly ,i am still thinking about this one :scratch: i haven't decided yet ...

Voo de Mar
09-09-2010, 07:43 AM
D'Joke in 4.

coonster14
09-09-2010, 08:35 AM
Heart says Nole in 4.

Head says Roger in 4.

I just wonder what great shot Roger will come up with this year? 2008- that was the leaping overhead smash that sliced away to the left, 2009- THE SHOT, 2010- maybe THE SHOT again, except he is facing forwards this time???

Oh, and this match is another battle for the #2 ranking.

Tenn1sAdd1ct
09-09-2010, 09:40 AM
Fed 3-0, bring on the final.

Elena.
09-09-2010, 09:45 AM
I want the Fedal final and the ultimate Goat test ! Rogie probably wins a tight match .

switz
09-09-2010, 09:48 AM
Don't like saying it but I feel like Djokovic is playing the better tennis and may just get up.

samanosuke
09-09-2010, 09:53 AM
Maybe the worst match up . Another crappy match is coming . Less worse player will will

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 09:54 AM
Nole please... win for your fans.

born_on_clay
09-09-2010, 10:00 AM
Praying for Nole but Federer is unstoppable. The Swiss in 3

cutesteve22
09-09-2010, 10:02 AM
Nole got a great chance, but I hope Roger could win

Commander Data
09-09-2010, 11:18 AM
Novak is good, and in great shape, so it won't be easy. But lets face it if Fed brings his A-Game Nole is toast. This could be over in under 2 hours if Fed stays focused.

Sonja1989
09-09-2010, 11:27 AM
Federer in 4.

Poirot123
09-09-2010, 11:33 AM
Novak is good, and in great shape, so it won't be easy. But lets face it if Fed brings his A-Game Nole is toast. This could be over in under 2 hours if Fed stays focused.

I agree. Whilst Djokovic is definitely a very good tennis player, if Federer plays his A-game, and more importantly, serves like a beast, he will win in 3 fairly comfortably. If Fed's serve isn't firing, Djokovic has a chance and it will be very tight.

Persimmon
09-09-2010, 11:36 AM
No chance for Nole. Can you believe he has not beaten a single top 10 player in 2010?:o Not even one.:o Fed wins in straights. Easily.:wavey:

nashty
09-09-2010, 01:30 PM
The Mighty Fed in 4. or 5. but sure, it will be Fed.

mayagaller
09-09-2010, 01:32 PM
Nole in 4, will lose the 1st set.

Aaric
09-09-2010, 01:33 PM
Nole :tears:

ossie
09-09-2010, 01:40 PM
fed is playing outstanding atm but the djoker is a genuine threat. still i dont think fed will lose here and we will see that longawaited match in the fedal rivalry

SheepleBuster
09-09-2010, 02:18 PM
You go down with your player if you have to. I don't know how many times i said to myself i won't watch their Slam finals anymore, yet, i watch every time. I think the only part i didn't watch was the 08 Wimby final, second tie-break. I had panic attacks, lol. I'll admit, i also missed a couple of match points, it's easier to process the pain if i don't watch the match point. :) Point is, you gotta watch it. You watched all of his 16 win right? What if he does it this time? With some miraculous shot, in a tight match? You wouldn't wanna miss that, trust me, it's nowhere near the same from replay.

Man up, and watch this thing if it happens, and feel sorry for Roger is he loses, and cheer like a maniac if he wins. That's what a fan does. Djoker will be tough, he sort out his ground game, and serving a higher percentage in recent matches, it can go either way i think, Rog has to play better from the baseline, and maintain his great serving. C'mon Roger!

Oh. If it's fed Nadal final. I'll watch until Nadal's first break point, which he usually converts against Fed whereas Fed goes for 2 out of 45 break points against Nadal... So Nadal can technically in straights going 3/3 bps whereas roger going 0 out of 105 break points :) That's what so painful about Rafa Roger matches. Rafa takes every small chance he gets. Roger outplays him before breakpoints and then misses the bps badly

Crazy Girl
09-09-2010, 02:23 PM
Federer shall win this.

latso
09-09-2010, 02:29 PM
Fed in 3

Anyone but Murray and Nadal would lose atm to Fed in 3

Murray and Rafa in 4

tektonac
09-09-2010, 02:34 PM
Fed in 3

Anyone but Murray and Nadal would lose atm to Fed in 3

Murray and Rafa in 4

i think murray is still the fave to win uso 2010 ;)

Vida
09-09-2010, 03:48 PM
advice to djoker: remember what prick federer can be.

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 03:56 PM
advice to djoker: remember what prick federer can be.

the same advice can be given to federer.

Vida
09-09-2010, 04:03 PM
the same advice can be given to federer.

:confused: no way.

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 04:04 PM
:confused: no way.

sure it can. just get over your bias.

Vida
09-09-2010, 04:06 PM
sure it can. just get over your bias.

what bias? nothing djokovic said about fed is remotely as nasty as vice versa. fact.

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 04:09 PM
what bias? nothing djokovic said about fed is remotely as nasty as vice versa. fact.

define nasty then. the old cocky djokovic was far from being a saint.

Vida
09-09-2010, 04:12 PM
define nasty then. the old cocky djokovic was far from being a saint.

honestly it was so ancient I cant remember, what did he say?

maybe its bias, but I can as hell remember what fed said yeah. not only to djokovic. :yeah:

perhaps youre biased more than me :shrug:

tennizen
09-09-2010, 04:15 PM
Purely by feeling, Novak in 4.

bokehlicious
09-09-2010, 04:18 PM
:lol: Vida :awww: :hug:

Vida
09-09-2010, 04:20 PM
:lol: Vida :awww: :hug:

:lol: what are you laughing about?:cool:

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 04:20 PM
honestly it was so ancient I cant remember, what did he say?

maybe its bias, but I can as hell remember what fed said yeah. not only to djokovic. :yeah:

perhaps youre biased more than me :shrug:

well if you don't like Fed, sure you're gonna recall all the badmouthing he did towards your faves.

i like both of them so i did not pay much attention, but yeah djokovic was not a saint back in his old cocky self days.

Vida
09-09-2010, 04:23 PM
Purely by feeling, Novak in 4.

oh yeah, the prediction...

well djoker is playing real well, maybe even best in 2, 3 years. whats important not to lay an egg, like he knows, and than I think he'll beat fed, maybe even in straight sets. hes playing that well.

Vida
09-09-2010, 04:26 PM
well if you don't like Fed, sure you're gonna recall all the badmouthing he did towards your faves.

i like both of them so i did not pay much attention, but yeah djokovic was not a saint back in his old cocky self days.

ok than. if you were fed, what would you say to yourself?

"three years ago he said Im finished, how dare he?", or

"his mother said Im not the king anymore, that bitch! Ill take it out on her son!". :lol:

please.

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 04:33 PM
ok than. if you were fed, what would you say to yourself?

"three years ago he said Im finished, how dare he?", or

"his mother said Im not the king anymore, that bitch! Ill take it out on her son!". :lol:

please.

what ?

yeah, like Fed never gave credits to djokovic. but that's where the bias comes into play. anywayz, fed owns djokovic in Flushing Meadow. fact. before the QFs i would have given the edge to Novak, but if the conditions remain as windy as yesterday, can't see him beating Fed.

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 04:35 PM
djokovic got absolutely ***** and utterly humiliated in last year's semifinal with federer hitting tweeners and the crowd going nuts.

i fear for novak.
this slaughter could be worse than last year.

Tonkie13
09-09-2010, 04:35 PM
Fed in 5

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 04:38 PM
No chance for Nole. Can you believe he has not beaten a single top 10 player in 2010?:o Not even one.:o Fed wins in straights. Easily.:wavey:

this

Vida
09-09-2010, 04:40 PM
what ?

yeah, like Fed never gave credits to djokovic. but that's where the bias comes into play. anywayz, fed owns djokovic in Flushing Meadow. fact. before the QFs i would have given the edge to Novak, but if the conditions remain as windy as yesterday, can't see him beating Fed.

hmm, we wearent talking about giving credit, we were talking about talking smack. credit, well lets just say djoker had his share of fawning over roger which didnt do him no favors.

anyway, to me it looks djoker has a lot more reasons to 'hate' fed than the other way around. beginning with all the 'faker' accusations that fed started when novak was a little nipper.

so please spare me the bias crap.

Florida
09-09-2010, 04:47 PM
I want Nole to win, but reality is: Fed is looking very sharp, has Nole's number in Flushing and will rise to the occasion hoping to book a date with the Clay Warrior and improve the H2H result...... Fed owns New York and will not give Nole a chance........ I hope I am wrong, because a lot of people including myself are just tired of the Fedal domination......... I hope Nole spoils the party????????? Please Nole!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't let your brain go on vacation...........

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 04:50 PM
hmm, we wearent talking about giving credit, we were talking about talking smack. credit, well lets just say djoker had his share of fawning over roger which didnt do him no favors.

anyway, to me it looks djoker has a lot more reasons to 'hate' fed than the other way around. beginning with all the 'faker' accusations that fed started when novak was a little nipper.

so please spare me the bias crap.

good for you. i don't feel the same way at all, and i believe i'm not the only one. guess we're all biased one way or another. let's just agree to disagree, i just don't hope for another ownage of Novak this time round. that would be devastating for him, especially when you consider that he seems to have managed to find his serve back, his old cockiness and got his game clicking.

Vida
09-09-2010, 04:54 PM
good for you. i don't feel the same way at all, and i believe i'm not the only one. guess we're all biased one way or another. let's just agree to disagree, i just don't hope for another ownage of Novak this time round. that would be devastating for him, especially when you consider that he seems to have managed to find his serve back, his old cockiness and got his game clicking.

nice to see we made some progress in this discussion:yeah:

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 04:56 PM
nice to see we made some progress in this discussion:yeah:

never said i wasn't :shrug:

Vida
09-09-2010, 05:03 PM
never said i wasn't :shrug:

and you found it convenient to accuse me of being biased from the start without stating a single fact? good job.

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 05:16 PM
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ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 05:16 PM
and you found it convenient to accuse me of being biased from the start without stating a single fact? good job.

yeah so you're not biased. cut me some slack.

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 05:22 PM
remember this.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/tennis/djokovic-family-rejoices-after-clown-prince-novak-dethrones-king-roger/2008/01/28/1201369037088.html

munZe konZa
09-09-2010, 05:39 PM
it's all about Nole, he wins or loses a match especially against Federer and Nadal. He is not a newcomer anymore so at some point he should become more predictable but right now he is totally capable of losing winnable matches which he had a lot of this year or win some losing matches . Question is when will he turn the corner and become more predictable? He had a lot of chances in last few years and this would be another chance for him to move up as a player or move down to mediocrity.

Vida
09-09-2010, 05:44 PM
yeah so you're not biased. cut me some slack.

youre really pushing to having the last word on this despite you being way off the target. thats not cool and I wont back off, so itll only get nasty and I dont want that.

I said my opinion what djokers attitude should be in this match, based on facts, which Im ready to back up, as I partially did. you accused me of being biased backing it with NOTHING, and instead saying how fed has given credit to djoker plenny of times, despite that having nothing to do with the original topic (smack) YOU insisted on debating, and despite me having stronger argument even on that thing (djoker sucking up to fed). in the meantime you acted crazy like you dont know what Im talking about.

now man, I dont know you and I have never talked with you before. it is not my intention to insult anyone not to make the right out of wrong, but if you step on my toes without anything to back it up, youre screwed. better chill out and leave it alone.:yeah:

shawshank
09-09-2010, 05:50 PM
I hope Djokovic can take it. Whoever wins that, needs to loose in the final with Rafa. Then I will be overjoyed!

Sapeod
09-09-2010, 05:52 PM
Tennis loses every time Federina wins. Nole in 4.
Says a Nadal fan :spit:

Federer in straights.

Sapeod
09-09-2010, 05:55 PM
Cry some more, topspindoctor :crying2:

careergrandslam
09-09-2010, 05:56 PM
I hope Djokovic can take it. Whoever wins that, needs to loose in the final with Rafa. Then I will be overjoyed!

nadal is not making the final let alone winning the title.:wavey:
expect the usual nadal chokejob he does every year at the USO.:o

Sapeod
09-09-2010, 05:56 PM
I hope Djokovic can take it. Whoever wins that, needs to loose in the final with Rafa. Then I will be overjoyed!
Oh, the need to lose, do they?

Nadal won't win the US Open.
If he does, the death of tennis will be official.

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 06:04 PM
youre really pushing to having the last word on this despite you being way off the target. thats not cool and I wont back off, so itll only get nasty and I dont want that.

I said my opinion what djokers attitude should be in this match, based on facts, which Im ready to back up, as I partially did. you accused me of being biased backing it with NOTHING, and instead saying how fed has given credit to djoker plenny of times, despite that having nothing to do with the original topic (smack) YOU insisted on debating, and despite me having stronger argument even on that thing (djoker sucking up to fed). in the meantime you acted crazy like you dont know what Im talking about.

now man, I dont know you and I have never talked with you before. it is not my intention to insult anyone not to make the right out of wrong, but if you step on my toes without anything to back it up, youre screwed. better chill out and leave it alone.:yeah:

how was i off the target ? you said Federer was sometimes a prick, and I said the same could be said about Nole. which I happen to think is true. I don't dislike the player to go and find all the nasty things he said about Federer, but clearly Novak wasn't always a saint in that regard. are you disputing that ? now you said you have stronger arguments lol. to you they might appear stronger since you have a bias towards your fave player. as i said, it's a matter of perception (Federer being more of prick to Nole than otherwise) and all in all it comes down to who your bias leans towards. so again tell me how is that wrong or off the target ?

now talk about pushing it, i said we could agree to disagree, expressed my opinion on the match but yeah, clearly i'm still the one pushing it and being off target. neither is it my intention to insult anyone, and you are generally a balanced poster, that much i can agree. so again, let's agree to disagree and give it a rest now.

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 06:11 PM
Nadal won't win the US Open.
If he does, the death of tennis will be official.

He might as well win it. If he does, it will be deserved because he would have been the better player.

Vida
09-09-2010, 06:15 PM
how was i off the target ? you said Federer was sometimes a prick, and I said the same could be said about Nole. which I happen to think is true. I don't dislike the player to go and find all the nasty things he said about Federer, but clearly Novak wasn't always a saint in that regard. are you disputing that ? now you said you have stronger arguments lol. to you they might appear stronger since you have a bias towards your fave player. as i said, it's a matter of perception (Federer being more of prick to Nole than otherwise) and all in all it comes down to who your bias leans towards. so again tell me how is that wrong or off the target ?

now talk about pushing it, i said we could agree to disagree, expressed my opinion on the match but yeah, clearly i'm still the one pushing it and being off target. neither is it my intention to insult anyone, and you are generally a balanced poster, that much i can agree. so again, let's agree to disagree and give it a rest now.

I aint giving it a rest. Im off for a dinner across town (salmon), but Ill be back later this eventing to reply if you insist debating this.

firstly "bias" has nothing to do with anything here. you brought it up accusing me of it with nothing in behind. its not a matter of interpretation the facts, but the facts themselves. if you list what federer said, and what djokovic said - youll reach a clear conclusion that djokovic has by faaar more reasons to motivate himself by remembering how fed treated him and others than vice versa - as I pointed out reffering to djokovic's mother. so no way in hell can it be put in the same discourse. if you freaking disagree, than state the damn facts you base your opinion on.

more so, even if we accept those facts can be interpreted in a different way (and they cant) - who the hell gave you the right to accuse me of being biased from the start - again, backing it with nothing?

its apples and oranges youre talking about my friend.

Nole fan
09-09-2010, 07:19 PM
It will all depend on Novak's nerves. If he doesn't choke, I think he can outplay Roger like he did during most of the match in Toronto. He just needs to do it from the start, not in the middle of the match, and be completely focused. When he plays deep and paints the lines, Roger struggles to keep up. Nole needs to keep it all together and give a competing performance (with a good serve). Nole in 5. There is nothing I'd like more to see than some of your dirty mouths shut. :lol:

ShotmaKer
09-09-2010, 07:25 PM
I aint giving it a rest. Im off for a dinner across town (salmon), but Ill be back later this eventing to reply if you insist debating this.

firstly "bias" has nothing to do with anything here. you brought it up accusing me of it with nothing in behind. its not a matter of interpretation the facts, but the facts themselves. if you list what federer said, and what djokovic said - youll reach a clear conclusion that djokovic has by faaar more reasons to motivate himself by remembering how fed treated him and others than vice versa - as I pointed out reffering to djokovic's mother. so no way in hell can it be put in the same discourse. if you freaking disagree, than state the damn facts you base your opinion on.

more so, even if we accept those facts can be interpreted in a different way (and they cant) - who the hell gave you the right to accuse me of being biased from the start - again, backing it with nothing?

its apples and oranges youre talking about my friend.

:lol: let's not give it a rest then. ok, i should not have told you that you're biased from the start - my apologies about that. so now can we start all over again ? i happen to think that bias is involved here though, and it comes down to how one interprets the facts. that's my opinion. so basically, it's going to go like this : 'Fed said Nole was a "faker" in his younger days, how lame is that ?' - 'yeah, but Nole has a weird record of retiring and using medical timeouts when the going got tough, back in the days' - 'may be, but that's debatable and Fed could have found a more diplomatic way to say it' - 'yeah sure, but then again Fed was not the only one noticing it, so may be he has a point' and so on so forth. we could do another example with the Djokovic family series. then again, my point is if we were to make a list of all the badmouthing and gamesmanships between the two, one could find a way to defend Nole and diss Fed and vice versa for each one of these episodes. hence my original point, Fed could use the same mindset you're advising Djokovic to use when stepping on the court. i'm no Djokovic hater so i find it hard to diss him so maybe you could have had a better debate with one of these haters. anyways, i really hope Novak can find the right balance between being confident, slightly arrogant because it helps his game, and staying careful with what he says to prevent another episode like what happened with Roddick in NYC a couple years ago. by the way, enjoy your dinner mate.

Nole fan
09-09-2010, 07:27 PM
Oh, before someone points out that Fed still won that match in Toronto, let me say this: yes, he won, but Novak was outplaying him in almost all the rallies from the baseline and playing with just his second serve, while Roger was clearly saved by the free points of his serve. I'm not saying serve is not important, but he was being clearly outplayed in the second and third sets. Nole should have won.
Now, this version of Nole is quite different: 80∞ serve in, 4-5 aces... looking much better, don't you think? In Toronto and all previous tournaments he was playing without a serve, that's kind of awesome that he had so good results considering that. But Nole today has got the serve back as demonstrated in his last matches, that's why I'm confident that he can beat Federer. He's also fitter than he was last year at the USO. That said, Roger is looking good too, so it will be a very disputed match with every possible outcome.

Safin_Lover
09-09-2010, 07:27 PM
You go down with your player if you have to. I don't know how many times i said to myself i won't watch their Slam finals anymore, yet, i watch every time. I think the only part i didn't watch was the 08 Wimby final, second tie-break. I had panic attacks, lol. I'll admit, i also missed a couple of match points, it's easier to process the pain if i don't watch the match point. :) Point is, you gotta watch it. You watched all of his 16 win right? What if he does it this time? With some miraculous shot, in a tight match? You wouldn't wanna miss that, trust me, it's nowhere near the same from replay.

Man up, and watch this thing if it happens, and feel sorry for Roger is he loses, and cheer like a maniac if he wins. That's what a fan does. Djoker will be tough, he sort out his ground game, and serving a higher percentage in recent matches, it can go either way i think, Rog has to play better from the baseline, and maintain his great serving. C'mon Roger!

This. Come on Roger!!!

tennismaster1978
09-09-2010, 07:27 PM
I got fed in 4. Novak cant handle the moment. Go fed!

Nole fan
09-09-2010, 07:42 PM
djokovic got absolutely ***** and utterly humiliated in last year's semifinal with federer hitting tweeners and the crowd going nuts.

i fear for novak.
this slaughter could be worse than last year.

6:7 5:7 5:7
Since when this score indicates that he was humiliated and ***** (ugly word) by Federer? All their encounters at USO were really close matches. And we all know Novak gave away that match to Roger on a plate so he could reconcile with the yank crowd. :rolleyes:

tektonac
09-09-2010, 08:59 PM
6:7 5:7 5:7
Since when this score indicates that he was humiliated and ***** (ugly word) by Federer? All their encounters at USO were really close matches. And we all know Novak gave away that match to Roger on a plate so he could reconcile with the yank crowd. :rolleyes:

typical from the fedfarts :rolleyes:

Why So Serious?
09-09-2010, 09:33 PM
The new king in straights, NID.

The Magician
09-09-2010, 09:33 PM
Novak should have lost the first set to Clownfils 6-2. That's all you need to know about the result of this match :wavey:

Fed in 3

BigJohn
09-09-2010, 11:24 PM
The new king in straights, NID.

You mean the resurrected one that was wrongfully declared dead by some hag a few years back?

selyoink
09-09-2010, 11:35 PM
For some reason I think Djokovic takes this in 4 and wins the title the next day. Going into the tournament I would've laughed at anyone picking Djokovic to win this slam.

Jaz
09-09-2010, 11:36 PM
You mean the resurrected one that was wrongfully declared dead by some hag a few years back?

I remember that... Federer won another 4 slams after that.... if that's when the king is dead..wtf lol

BigJohn
09-09-2010, 11:39 PM
For some reason I think Djokovic takes this in 4 and wins the title the next day. Going into the tournament I would've laughed at anyone picking Djokovic to win this slam.

If so, will Srjdn tear up the t-shirt in furious joy?

Nole fan
09-09-2010, 11:57 PM
Federer: "I was lucky in Toronto. Victory will depend on who's having the best day".
Nuff said.

Matt01
09-10-2010, 01:23 AM
Novak should have lost the first set to Clownfils 6-2. That's all you need to know about the result of this match :wavey:

Fed in 3


Troll.

xargon
09-10-2010, 04:59 AM
[QUOTE=Nole fan;10340410]Oh, before someone points out that Fed still won that match in Toronto, let me say this: yes, he won, but Novak was outplaying [QUOTE]

Dont forget, in his presser, Fed said Novak "showed greatness."

guga2120
09-10-2010, 05:19 AM
It would better for tennis if Novak can win and play Rafa, in the final. I don't think he can pull it off, though.

allpro
09-10-2010, 05:24 AM
this could be close, but ultimately fed will prevail. he'll win the big points.

stewart
09-10-2010, 07:22 AM
Nole faces Federer the fourth time in the US Open. He clearly knows what it takes to beat Federer, it's just the question of whether he is going to be able to serve really well, play aggressively, and not mentally break down if he is down a set or two. Every one knows that it's hard to beat Federer in a grand slam, especially in the semifinals. Nole needs to show that he wants to win more than Federer does. He does have a chance, and I hope he can get past Federer and win his second slam.

Start da Game
09-10-2010, 07:38 AM
it looks like djokovic means business this time.......i won't be surprised if he wins but i want frauderina in the final so that rafa's us open victory feels more great.......

Julio
09-10-2010, 08:45 AM
Nole, easily.

DUN I LOVE
09-10-2010, 09:23 AM
Fed in 4.

BigJohn
09-10-2010, 09:41 AM
it looks like djokovic means business this time.......i won't be surprised if he wins but i want frauderina in the final so that rafa's us open victory feels more great.......

Again, you don't like tennis, you just like how Rafa makes you feel when he wins...

That is just sad.

Nole fan
09-10-2010, 09:50 AM
Nole faces Federer the fourth time in the US Open. He clearly knows what it takes to beat Federer, it's just the question of whether he is going to be able to serve really well, play aggressively, and not mentally break down if he is down a set or two. Every one knows that it's hard to beat Federer in a grand slam, especially in the semifinals. Nole needs to show that he wants to win more than Federer does. He does have a chance, and I hope he can get past Federer and win his second slam.

+1

Start da Game
09-10-2010, 10:03 AM
Again, you don't like tennis, you just like how Rafa makes you feel when he wins...

That is just sad.

speaking of tennis, i already know more than what you will ever get to know about the game.......you are spewing nonsense in every thread simply because you cannot speak on the game.......

ossie
09-10-2010, 10:07 AM
define nasty then. the old cocky djokovic was far from being a saint.yea djoker used to be a real prick until he got bitchslapped so many times by fedal that he (and his family you dont hear of them nowadays though :devil: ) was put into their place and now hes trying to be mister nice guy.

BigJohn
09-10-2010, 10:12 AM
speaking of tennis, i already know more than what you will ever get to know about the game.......you are spewing nonsense in every thread simply because you cannot speak on the game.......


And what exactly do you spew in every thread? Blind hatred for Federer and lust for Nadal.

That pretty much sums it up.

Start da Game
09-10-2010, 10:14 AM
And what exactly do you spew in every thread? Blind hatred for Federer and lust for Nadal.

That pretty much sums it up.

my sig is so right....... :haha:

BigJohn
09-10-2010, 10:15 AM
my sig is so right....... :haha:

The warm regards part is very telling on why you don't actually enjoy tennis.

tennishero
09-10-2010, 11:38 AM
novak i think

Florida
09-10-2010, 12:26 PM
May God listen to your predictions and give Nole a chance to take it!!!!

kronus12
09-10-2010, 12:36 PM
Nole has got a chance looks like he's better then he was last year, but then again watching federer play lately looks like he better show up and play the match of his life to win, I doubt he win but there's always a chance soo good luck on him.

Speed of Light
09-10-2010, 01:53 PM
Nole takes Fed to the bakery 6-0, 6-1, 6-0.

glycina
09-10-2010, 02:31 PM
Women's Final will be NO.1 vs No.2!
And so will be Men's Final !
That's normal.
And for the championship, who knows which one will be more deserved that day?

lazybear
09-10-2010, 03:14 PM
This could get tricky, but if Roger can serve around 65-67 % again, i think he has the edge.

Greatness
09-10-2010, 03:17 PM
Novak in 4.
I like Federer but he's got enough slams already; I would rather see others in the final besides him and Rafa.

Nole Rules
09-10-2010, 03:40 PM
Oh, the need to lose, do they?

Nadal won't win the US Open.
If he does, the death of tennis will be official.

This.:sad:

Matt01
09-10-2010, 05:22 PM
Nole takes Fed to the bakery 6-0, 6-1, 6-0.


If only :sobbing:

samanosuke
09-10-2010, 05:48 PM
If Djokovic wins it would be a long and exhaustive match . I assume that this would be the second match and Nole will be useless in final . Djokovic is an ideal scenario for Nadaltards

«Ivan»
09-10-2010, 05:55 PM
For some reason I think Djokovic takes this in 4 and wins the title the next day. Going into the tournament I would've laughed at anyone picking Djokovic to win this slam. fine post but this down under,idiotic(sadly from gay person-yes,we gays could be idiots like others-fitjonh example)comment, unprovoked:

If so, will Srjdn tear up the t-shirt in furious joy?


what a knee-jerk fed fan.fyi,selyonik is a good poster,pretty much always objective.he/she haven't deserved this kind of rudeness from anyone.is there any chance you're mellow yellow?it'd be explain a lot about you.

DrJules
09-10-2010, 05:58 PM
it looks like djokovic means business this time.......i won't be surprised if he wins but i want frauderina in the final so that rafa's us open victory feels more great.......

If Djokovic wins the semi-final vs Federer and final vs Nadal it would leave Nadal without the complete set of GS titles and Nadal still 8 grand slams short of Federer.

A Djokovic win could really piss off the Nadal fans as they fear Djokovic on a hard court.

mystic ice cube
09-10-2010, 06:20 PM
Roger in 4.

To me, Djokovic's style is quite similar to Fed's. In the big games Fed will always be the favorite to get through because he is both the more experienced and better of the two. I like Djokovic though, I wouldn't mind seeing him prevail later. In order to win he must play aggressive and have a good share of luck with the big points. If Fed is finding his first serve consistently, this could be Fed in 3. Should be a great match-up though.

As for the final, I believe Rafa has to be the favorite given the H2H over both. Fed will push him though.

pica_pica
09-10-2010, 06:42 PM
Fed in 4. Sensible prediction, I guess.

Try your best out there, Nole :hug: No fooling around please

Poirot123
09-10-2010, 06:57 PM
Federer will win this in 3 tight sets, if he serves well. Federer looked very comfortable against Djokovic in toronto semi-final aside from a 20 minute purple patch for Djokovic where he played unplayable tennis to take the 2nd set.

Remember Djokovic almost went out to Troki in the first round? All Troki was doing was serving well. In fact Troki was a break up with break points for a double break in the 4th set which would've taken the match had he taken them. Then Troki collapsed. Admittedly the heat might've played a part in that mathc. Still since then Djokovic has looked very good, and hasn't been troubled a great deal beating Petzschner, Blake, Fish (who had no weapons to beat a very impressive Djokovic), and Monfils (who played a good first set and then stopped playing tennis). Still think Federer has the edge and will take it. Maybe even with another tweenie thrown in too.

BigJohn
09-10-2010, 07:35 PM
what a knee-jerk fed fan.fyi,selyonik is a good poster,pretty much always objective.he/she haven't deserved this kind of rudeness from anyone.is there any chance you're mellow yellow?it'd be explain a lot about you.

This was a comment on the t-shirt worn by Djoko's dad. Chill you drama queen...

cocrcici
09-10-2010, 10:38 PM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSu877kEYI8g0jam2RMsow45qjOZLItE _Y5onl3AWNWFdVQaEc&t=1&usg=__MOvfbwScZatH83W4T6EyH5w9qgM=

jcempire
09-10-2010, 10:46 PM
Tough tough tough to say

I think Djoker in 4 or 5

gbmkc
09-10-2010, 11:49 PM
I hope the Djoker's fans aren't getting too hopeful. Nole doesn't have it.

It's Federer in 3,4 if Nole fights for it.

UO Final: Fedal, Whether You Like It or Not

Lee
09-10-2010, 11:52 PM
Roger in 4.

To me, Djokovic's style is quite similar to Fed's. In the big games Fed will always be the favorite to get through because he is both the more experienced and better of the two. I like Djokovic though, I wouldn't mind seeing him prevail later. In order to win he must play aggressive and have a good share of luck with the big points. If Fed is finding his first serve consistently, this could be Fed in 3. Should be a great match-up though.

As for the final, I believe Rafa has to be the favorite given the H2H over both. Fed will push him though.

Djokovic's style similar to Federer? :confused:

Andi-M
09-10-2010, 11:54 PM
I think Djoker is playing sensational the best he's played in over 2 years, I wouldnt want to call it. Fed is playing great too. Maybe Djoker in 5.

Dejan16
09-11-2010, 12:19 AM
funny how many people think fed will win, I gaurantee 100% novak will win tomorrow, wait and see..

tennismaster1978
09-11-2010, 12:28 AM
Judging by QF performances Novak in 3 with one of them being close.
Are you retarded?

tennismaster1978
09-11-2010, 12:30 AM
Take away Sampras' serve and he doesn't win 14 grand slams. Serving is kind of important on fast court tennis.
That's funny.

Bilbo
09-11-2010, 12:30 AM
R. Federer in 5

Nole fan
09-11-2010, 12:31 AM
funny how many people think fed will win, I gaurantee 100% novak will win tomorrow, wait and see..

I hear you Dejan! Nothing would make me happier!

Topspindoctor
09-11-2010, 12:33 AM
Djoker vs Rafa in final :yeah: It would be epic.

ShotmaKer
09-11-2010, 12:40 AM
What's the weather forecast for tomorrow ?

Nole fan
09-11-2010, 12:42 AM
What's the weather forecast for tomorrow ?

Sunny, not too hot (26ºC)
Wind:NNE at 7 mph

I think perfect conditions, right?

ShotmaKer
09-11-2010, 12:48 AM
Sunny, not too hot (26ºC)
Wind:NNE at 7 mph

I think perfect conditions, right?

Sounds like perfect indeed. We might have a great match now that the wind is not spoiling the party. This one is really a toss, either of them can get through.

~Maya~
09-11-2010, 01:12 AM
When was the last time these two played a great match? Their matches are usually crappy.

ZaZoo)
09-11-2010, 01:27 AM
When was the last time these two played a great match? Their matches are usually crappy.

USO 08 I think.

Mechlan
09-11-2010, 01:34 AM
Djokovic will be very keen to win. He's lost the last several years against Federer here and has actually been playing quite aggressively this tournament. Problem is, Federer has also been playing well. Should be a fun match.

BigJohn
09-11-2010, 01:34 AM
Sunny, not too hot (26ºC)
Wind:NNE at 7 mph

I think perfect conditions, right?

You know, that's pretty warm for Djokovic.

Serenidad
09-11-2010, 01:41 AM
Once Nadal wins over Youzhny, this will play in Federer's mind. Djokovic will win.

UncleZeke
09-11-2010, 01:52 AM
Fed in four seems about right

Start da Game
09-11-2010, 09:17 AM
i am sure djokovic would have liked a night match.......he just doesn't enjoy playing in sunny conditions anymore.......bad for the game that such a talented player is restricted by breathing problems.......anyway, i am expecting him to fight.......

TipTen
09-11-2010, 10:44 AM
come on Novak, destroy that weepy pu..y

gogo Crazy Nole. AAAAA!!!!! :bounce:

Iván
09-11-2010, 10:48 AM
Both Playing Very Well

5 Setter Possible

Nole fan
09-11-2010, 01:36 PM
You know, that's pretty warm for Djokovic.

No, it's not because the humidity will be very low. I don't think it will affect him.

MIMIC
09-11-2010, 11:10 PM
I said Djoker would win.

Go, me! :yeah: