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WWW USO QF: Rafael Nadal v Fernando Verdasco

Luinir
09-08-2010, 06:51 AM
H2H: 10-0 Nadal...

Who will win this time?

HarryMan
09-08-2010, 06:57 AM
Verdasco barely took Nadal to five couple of years ago at the AO and lost, that's his best performance against Nadal. Nadal is going to get a lot more free points this time around because of his new improved serve, therefore more pressure will be on Verdasco than last time (even if he plays his best tennis). I think Nadal wins this in 3 (max 4).

Pirata.
09-08-2010, 06:58 AM
Please win, Fernando :sobbing:

born_on_clay
09-08-2010, 07:00 AM
Nadal in 3
Something like 64 76 75

The Magician
09-08-2010, 07:01 AM
Come on Tabasco, you have all the tools except the one in between your ears :o Just once do yourself proud instead of your country and your sugar daddy Rafa.

viruzzz
09-08-2010, 07:03 AM
Well... Verdasco is playing in a superior level than Rafita.
But he's just a wannabe.
I hope Fernando in 5
But I think Rafita in 4

FormerRafaFan
09-08-2010, 07:11 AM
Verdasco is too tired.. Still, I think he'll manage to take one set off Rafa. I go for Rafa in 4.

Arkulari
09-08-2010, 07:12 AM
Rafa in 4

Priam
09-08-2010, 07:13 AM
Verdasco coming off a 4+ hour match. I don't think Nadal will choke as bad as Pics.

Nadal in 3.

FlameOn
09-08-2010, 08:38 AM
:sad: I'm determined not to let this impending matchup spoil the great fighting spirit Nando's shown at this US Open. :mad:

FlameOn
09-08-2010, 08:38 AM
I'll vote with my heart and say Nando. :p It's not impossible. Just very difficult.

Voo de Mar
09-08-2010, 08:57 AM
Nadal, 4 sets.

sabina_RF_lee
09-08-2010, 09:12 AM
Please Nando make unbelieveable, win plssss :crying2:

bokehlicious
09-08-2010, 09:14 AM
:zzz: another spaniard to bend over to the matador... :yawn: :zzz:

henke007
09-08-2010, 09:34 AM
Finally the trash will be taken out by his own idol!!

Elena.
09-08-2010, 11:04 AM
Verdasco doesn't have the guts to beat Rafito :rolleyes: ,if he only had ,he could beat him !So Rafito for the win .

Sophocles
09-08-2010, 11:06 AM
If Verdasco's not too tired, he can give Nadal a match. There's no way he'll win though.

ossie
09-08-2010, 11:17 AM
verdasco could be a threat here, hes been playing very aggressively at the uso

Montego
09-08-2010, 11:24 AM
6-4 7-6 6-2


or something similar

Sophocles
09-08-2010, 11:25 AM
6-4 7-6 6-2


or something similar

Aww come on. I'm sure Nadal will take a set.

Shirogane
09-08-2010, 11:29 AM
Nando in four for the upset.

paseo
09-08-2010, 11:35 AM
I don't see any way for Verdasco to win. So, Nadal in 3.

nadal_slam_king
09-08-2010, 11:41 AM
Verdasco had 89 unforced errors, and 73 winners. LOL

Orka_n
09-08-2010, 11:45 AM
Nadal in 4.

latso
09-08-2010, 11:45 AM
Finally the trash will be taken out by his own idol!!
Wrong topic. Go to Federer - Soderling for this crap

Orka_n
09-08-2010, 11:49 AM
Wrong topic. Go to Federer - Soderling for this crapAre you actually denying that Verdasco is Nadal's boy toy? :scratch:

latso
09-08-2010, 11:49 AM
Verdasco had 89 unforced errors, and 73 winners. LOL
he also provoked around 60 forced errors

Rafa gave away 4 BP oportunitites to Feli? Lmao

with the ladyboy serving 49% and no baggels?

That's gonna cost him in next round.

Mug Gaba, mug Istomin, out of form new dad Simon, totally out of form Lalo - wow, Rafa is in huuuge form...lol

The bandwaggon going down in the quarters

bamos

TennisOnWood
09-08-2010, 11:52 AM
Please Nando make unbelieveable, win plssss :crying2:

Hm,little girl is afraid of well known scenario in Slam finals I guess

Topspindoctor
09-08-2010, 11:59 AM
Nadal in 3 sets. 4 Max. Verdasco isn't going to easily get into rallies like in AO 2009 thanks to Nadal's faster serve. Plus he just had a brutally long match, while Nadal cruised.

latso
09-08-2010, 11:59 AM
Are you actually denying that Verdasco is Nadal's boy toy? :scratch:
yes.

Rafa has won all the matches so far but not one because of Nando bending or similar crap.
Rafa's just been the better player in most and the tougher one mentally in some of them.

I've watched many of them and honestly it takes just a little bit more from Nando to win such match.

Now he obviously have the base, grew up a lot since their AO semi and now on faster courts, with an improved mentally Verdasco, boosted by the incredible win last night, fit enough, peaking in form - imo Rafa is going home.

Nalbandian was suposed to smash him, but got smashed and he was one of the most inform players pre-USO.
Then Ferrer's extremely unpleasant style for a shotmaker got passed over after 2 sets HC (could have easily be a 3-0 there BTW, even though was playing actually even better than Rafa so far).

This being a quarter is just the perfect spot for Fernando to make it (coz with one more match in the legs would be tough).

So yes, Rafa's been beating Verdasco everytime they played so far. The same as Roger was doing to Davydenko and Soderling until they just beated him.

Now is the time. Last year was Murray's perfect record against Dasco to go down (again against all odds and precisely 7.50 for the Spaniard), now is time for Nadal.

Verdasco is simply the better hard courter atm and he has enough experience already to make this step further.

latso
09-08-2010, 12:03 PM
Nadal in 3 sets. 4 Max. Verdasco isn't going to easily get into rallies like in AO 2009 thanks to Nadal's faster serve. Plus he just had a brutally long match, while Nadal cruised.
Rafa's serve has improved from bad to decent, nothing more.

And Verdasco came from a not less brutal match against Murray in AO to play as equal with Rafa and missing to take a deserved win imo.

But then was his first apearence at such high stage and he had one more match in the legs as it was a semi.

now is a bit different imo

Orka_n
09-08-2010, 12:04 PM
yes.

Rafa has won all the matches so far but not one because of Nando bending or similar crap.
Rafa's just been the better player in most and the tougher one mentally in some of them.

I've watched many of them and honestly it takes just a little bit more from Nando to win such match.

Now he obviously have the base, grew up a lot since their AO semi and now on faster courts, with an improved mentally Verdasco, boosted by the incredible win last night, fit enough, peaking in form - imo Rafa is going home.

Nalbandian was suposed to smash him, but got smashed and he was one of the most inform players pre-USO.
Then Ferrer's extremely unpleasant style for a shotmaker got passed over after 2 sets HC (could have easily be a 3-0 there BTW, even though was playing actually even better than Rafa so far).

This being a quarter is just the perfect spot for Fernando to make it (coz with one more match in the legs would be tough).

So yes, Rafa's been beating Verdasco everytime they played so far. The same as Roger was doing to Davydenko and Soderling until they just beated him.

Now is the time. Last year was Murray's perfect record against Dasco to go down (again against all odds and precisely 7.50 for the Spaniard), now is time for Nadal.

Verdasco is simply the better hard courter atm and he has enough experience already to make this step further.You know what, I would love for you to be right about this. Honest.

However, I don't believe it one bit. :tape:

shadows
09-08-2010, 12:05 PM
Nadal in 3 easy sets of course

green25814
09-08-2010, 12:08 PM
There are two paths this match can take.

1) Tobasco lays down for Bigpiggy.

2) Tobasco dominates and throws away the big points.

Either way, we all know whose winning.

shawshank
09-08-2010, 12:10 PM
Latso, just to remind you the match of Verdasco with Fognini :D How do you want a guy who almost lost to Fognini to stand a chance with Rafa? You are really a sweet dreamer...
Rafa in 3, max 4! This will be his US OPEN!

FormerRafaFan
09-08-2010, 12:22 PM
There are two paths this match can take.

1) Tobasco lays down for Bigpiggy.

2) Tobasco dominates and throws away the big points.

Either way, we all know whose winning.

LOL, so funny, but yet so true. We all know what the outcome of this match will be. It's NID. Rafa will win, it's obvious.

LaFuria
09-08-2010, 12:25 PM
Is this one even worth watching? Nadal in 3.

Topspindoctor
09-08-2010, 12:36 PM
Rafa's serve has improved from bad to decent, nothing more.

And Verdasco came from a not less brutal match against Murray in AO to play as equal with Rafa and missing to take a deserved win imo.

But then was his first apearence at such high stage and he had one more match in the legs as it was a semi.

now is a bit different imo

Verdasco already had 2 5 setters, one 4 setter. I am certainly not saying he will be falling over, but fatigue could definitely be a factor, especially if many games go to deuce and there are many extended rallies. Also double faults in double digits and more errors than UE. I just don't see Verdasco winning this.

FlameOn
09-08-2010, 12:42 PM
H2Hs are not made to be perfect. This year Soderling and Berdych have scored their first victories over Federer in years for example. Yeah I'm clutching straws here but Nando had two tough matches before the AO semi and he was not fatigued. And Nando's game is better here, and Nadal's slightly worse than on AO courts. If Nando plays a great match like AO again, it could tip the balance in his favour. Maybe.

latso
09-08-2010, 12:42 PM
Latso, just to remind you the match of Verdasco with Fognini :D How do you want a guy who almost lost to Fognini to stand a chance with Rafa? You are really a sweet dreamer...
Rafa in 3, max 4! This will be his US OPEN!
It's clear that a win for Verdasco would be a surprise, what i'm saying is that it won't be as big as most tend to believe and it is much more probable than the odds.

Fognini and Ferrer are similar style players, the exact style which bother Verdasco a lot.

He overcame them both, so this is a positive for him.

He's been building momentum and now is on the peak of it.
The main problem - even if he wins Nadal, he won't be able to do much more after that imo, but we'll see.

I agree Nadal is favorite, he is 11-0 H2H and number one in the world, of course he's fav.

But imo not more than 60-40 fav.

Quadruple Tree
09-08-2010, 12:44 PM
Nadal in 3 easy sets. Nadal won't get broken. Maybe a bagel or a breadstick thrown in. It must be really nice to have two bye rounds in the middle of the tournament like this to stay well rested for the SFs.

Ackms421
09-08-2010, 01:24 PM
Verdasco is playing well, but so is Nadal. I don't buy all the talk about the Spaniards rolling over for Nadal. I think he wins because he is so much better. That being the case, I think this goes to Nadal in 3 tight sets. He didn't look great against Lopez, so hopefully he shows some form in this match.

nadal_slam_king
09-08-2010, 01:45 PM
Even though Verdasco probably won't win a set, he is probably the best returner Nadal has faced so far, so it wouldn't be a shock if Verdasco breaks Nadal's serve once.

2003
09-08-2010, 02:14 PM
No one, and I mean no one, beats Nando 11 times in a row :devil:

ShotmaKer
09-08-2010, 03:04 PM
No one, and I mean no one, beats Nando 11 times in a row :devil:

Nadal actually did.

MIMIC
09-08-2010, 03:14 PM
:haha:

Persimmon
09-08-2010, 05:51 PM
Nadal has never beaten a top 10 player at the USO.


Verdasco is top 10.


Verdasco wins.

Rafallucci.
09-08-2010, 06:35 PM
:o Two of my faves.

I think Rafa will win, probably in 4.

careergrandslam
09-08-2010, 06:35 PM
Nadal has never beaten a top 10 player at the USO.

Verdasco is top 10.


Verdasco wins.

damn, is that true?

ImmzB
09-08-2010, 06:38 PM
Rafa In 3.

philosophicalarf
09-08-2010, 07:08 PM
damn, is that true?

Yes. Closest was Gonzo last year, who was 11 at the time.

MalwareDie
09-08-2010, 07:14 PM
Nadal has never beaten a top 10 player at the USO.


Verdasco is top 10.


Verdasco wins.


There's a first time for everything, and it's freaking Verdasco.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-08-2010, 07:44 PM
verdasco you little bitch

you grow some balls and play tennis for once against the mug

its obvious 1 dimensional top spin monkey is going to win, but id like to be proven wrong by hair gel boy

FormerRafaFan
09-08-2010, 08:25 PM
It's funny how people seem to hate Verdasco, but they seem to love him whenever he plays against Nadal.

LaFuria
09-08-2010, 08:35 PM
It's funny how people seem to hate Verdasco, but they seem to love him whenever he plays against Nadal.

Until he bends over that is.

DrJules
09-08-2010, 08:48 PM
Nadal 6-4, 6-4, 6-4.

Verdasco is overated.

ossie
09-08-2010, 09:10 PM
a lot of people are underestimating verdasco here but hey this is mtf right?

Acer
09-08-2010, 09:11 PM
Verdasco is already spreading his legs WIDE open like the good bitch he is.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-08-2010, 09:13 PM
fucking joke draw

how can dull-boy win a FAST hardcourt slam

seriously?

he's dodged EVERY bullet

and because fed is an old man, he has a shot at it

its not right- the semi versus a spaniard?

fucking by- to the final you mean

TheBoiledEgg
09-08-2010, 09:18 PM
15-0 ret :yawn: it might as well be

ossie
09-08-2010, 09:43 PM
lol the haters are getting murdered :haha:

FormerRafaFan
09-08-2010, 09:46 PM
lol the haters are getting murdered :haha:

What do you expect? They've been wrong each and every single time.. They picked Nalbandian to win over Verdasco, and they picked Ferrer to win over Verdasco. FAIL.

MalwareDie
09-08-2010, 09:57 PM
It's funny how people seem to hate Verdasco, but they seem to love him whenever he plays against Nadal.

A lot of Verdasco's haters think that he sucks 24/7. I don't think he has a chance.

Serenidad
09-08-2010, 10:05 PM
Well we know if Nadal's top 10 duck is to be broken he had to be from España.

Quakes
09-08-2010, 10:42 PM
Nadal over Verdasco in less than 3 hours with something like 6-4, 7-6, 6-4.

It's sad, but it's true.

Quakes
09-08-2010, 10:44 PM
Nadal has never beaten a top 10 player at the USO.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

careergrandslam
09-08-2010, 10:50 PM
when was the last time rafa beat a top 10 player in a hardcourt tournament?

Fiberlight1
09-08-2010, 10:53 PM
yes.

Rafa has won all the matches so far but not one because of Nando bending or similar crap.
Rafa's just been the better player in most and the tougher one mentally in some of them.

I've watched many of them and honestly it takes just a little bit more from Nando to win such match.

Now he obviously have the base, grew up a lot since their AO semi and now on faster courts, with an improved mentally Verdasco, boosted by the incredible win last night, fit enough, peaking in form - imo Rafa is going home.

Nalbandian was suposed to smash him, but got smashed and he was one of the most inform players pre-USO.
Then Ferrer's extremely unpleasant style for a shotmaker got passed over after 2 sets HC (could have easily be a 3-0 there BTW, even though was playing actually even better than Rafa so far).

This being a quarter is just the perfect spot for Fernando to make it (coz with one more match in the legs would be tough).

So yes, Rafa's been beating Verdasco everytime they played so far. The same as Roger was doing to Davydenko and Soderling until they just beated him.

Now is the time. Last year was Murray's perfect record against Dasco to go down (again against all odds and precisely 7.50 for the Spaniard), now is time for Nadal.

Verdasco is simply the better hard courter atm and he has enough experience already to make this step further.

:haha:

Luinir
09-08-2010, 10:54 PM
when was the last time rafa beat a top 10 player in a hardcourt tournament?

Miami 2010, Tsonga. Before, 2009 IW Del Potro.

Fiberlight1
09-08-2010, 10:54 PM
fucking joke draw

how can dull-boy win a FAST hardcourt slam

seriously?

he's dodged EVERY bullet

and because fed is an old man, he has a shot at it

its not right- the semi versus a spaniard?

fucking by- to the final you mean

:haha: :haha:

Fiberlight1
09-08-2010, 10:55 PM
Miami 2010, Tsonga. Before, 2009 IW Del Potro.

Andy Murray was four at IW 2009 haha

Johnny_Bravo
09-08-2010, 11:35 PM
I do believe ;)

superslam77
09-08-2010, 11:48 PM
6-0,6-0,6-0 another minion who played 5 sets before playing him with a weak draw full of worshipers

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-09-2010, 12:41 AM
tabasco likes to play Rafa's bitch

and Rafa's gonna fuck this little bitch good

gonna grease that ass up reeeeeal good

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 12:44 AM
Why so many haters in the thread? Now Nadal has clown draw? I recall in the beginning of the Open how many people were gloating how he'd get thrashed by Murray or Nalby. Well, Nadal doesn't get to choose who he plays he only needs to beat players who were good enough to make it to play him. That's all. If the so called future of tennis Murray and "in form" Nalbandian can't even go through their draws, whose fault is it?

missvarsha
09-09-2010, 12:47 AM
I think the question is no longer if Nadal will win the USO, or even if he will win without losing a set.
Both are a given.

The bigger question is if he will be broken even once during the tournament.

oranges
09-09-2010, 12:51 AM
Why stop at the USO? It's a given he won't lose a set until he decides to retire at 40.

missvarsha
09-09-2010, 12:56 AM
Because he won't keep up this level of play forever ?
Not only is Nadal playing at his very best, with a few new dimensions to his game, but he has a pudding soft draw as well - (something that is a part of the sport, everyone benefits from this time to time) - it's hardly unreasonable to project him as a runaway winner.

Topspindoctor
09-09-2010, 01:02 AM
And Nadal knows this is his best chance to win USO. With Mugza out, Del Po not there, Fed with harder draw and him being well physically and confident after winning his 3rd non clay slam.

christallh24
09-09-2010, 01:35 AM
:zzz: another spaniard to bend over to the matador... :yawn: :zzz:

And those same Spaniards have no trouble bending over for Roger.

Are you actually denying that Verdasco is Nadal's boy toy? :scratch:

What proof do you have that he is?

The bandwaggon going down in the quarters

What bandwagon?

Verdasco is simply the better hard courter atm...

Ummmm...how do you figure? That Nando is a better hc player, I mean?

sabina_RF_lee
09-09-2010, 01:39 AM
we all know what will happen doesnt even need a thread

dombrfc
09-09-2010, 04:05 AM
Nadal

Zagor
09-09-2010, 04:33 AM
Nadal in 3 easy sets,something like 6-3 6-1 6-2

Manequin75
09-09-2010, 06:38 AM
I think the question is no longer if Nadal will win the USO, or even if he will win without losing a set.
Both are a given.

The bigger question is if he will be broken even once during the tournament.

i love your confidence. Its gonna be tough for Rafa. The Verdasco match has the potential for him to pick up some injury. He will win it but it could come at some cost. The SF should be ok I think. But the final against Fed is going to be hard - Fed's forehand, drop shots, chip-charges, slices, serve will keep Rafa from getting into a Rhythm.

Manequin75
09-09-2010, 06:48 AM
Verdasco already had 2 5 setters, one 4 setter. I am certainly not saying he will be falling over, but fatigue could definitely be a factor, especially if many games go to deuce and there are many extended rallies. Also double faults in double digits and more errors than UE. I just don't see Verdasco winning this.

the biggest thing everybody is forgeting is that this match will be at Arthur Ash under the lights with a lot of wind. It will be afirst for nando. Feli Lopez in his presser said it took him a set and a half to get used to it. Rafa has had the advanmtage of playing 3 night matches there already. Verdasco might stuggle early on and Rafa should quickly grab the first set. After that even if we have a slugfest I think rafa could prevail. My worries for this match is not about Rafa losing but more about Rafa picking up some injury grinding with nando. I hope he doesnt harm his knees. A fully fit Rafa is no certainty for the title - an injured Rafa might as well catch a broadway with Xisca than show up to meet fed in the finals.

Persimmon
09-09-2010, 12:52 PM
:oI think the question is no longer if Nadal will win the USO, or even if he will win without losing a set.
Both are a given.

The bigger question is if he will be broken even once during the tournament.

ROFL to infinitum. In an eventual Fedal final I see Fed winning. Still wouldn't surprise me to see Rafa not reach the final.

latso
09-09-2010, 12:56 PM
Ummmm...how do you figure? That Nando is a better hc player, I mean?
Is it hard to figure?

Their last hard court match ended in 5 sets and since then Verdasco gained experience, mental strenght, a few tittles.

Rafa added 10mph average on his first serve. Punto

With those 10mph he wouldn't get humiliated back then by tsonga, but get a 4-6 4-6 4-6, which at the end of the day is the same

Rafa has never beaten a top 10 in USO and this is not gonna happen any soon

Persimmon
09-09-2010, 01:09 PM
Rafa has never beaten a top 10 in USO and this is not gonna happen any soon

Exactly. Verdasco is top 10.:unsure::scared:

Ozdog
09-09-2010, 01:38 PM
I think much of it will come down to how well Fernando backs up. If he backs up well he will win.

I_Dasco
09-09-2010, 02:37 PM
Hahahaha I love MTF GM Fernando's haters.. They think everyone can beat Fernando and they dont even play tennis

MacTheKnife
09-09-2010, 02:39 PM
Verdasco is already loosening up his back so he won't strain anything when he bends over. Nadal in 3 easy sets.

nadal_slam_king
09-09-2010, 03:09 PM
i love your confidence. Its gonna be tough for Rafa. The Verdasco match has the potential for him to pick up some injury. He will win it but it could come at some cost. The SF should be ok I think. But the final against Fed is going to be hard - Fed's forehand, drop shots, chip-charges, slices, serve will keep Rafa from getting into a Rhythm.

Pick up an injury vs Verdasco? If that's not wishful thinking I don't know what is...

Fed's forehand, drop shots, chip-charges, slices, serve? Like Nadal hasn't seen this crap before...lol

Everko
09-09-2010, 03:11 PM
Verdasco is already loosening up his back so he won't strain anything when he bends over. Nadal in 3 easy sets.

you think you are funnyman? Your not. This is the most unoriginal post on this forum. Act like if Verdasco wanted too he could beat nadal but chooses not to. It's mentally unstable to believe that.

Crazy Girl
09-09-2010, 03:14 PM
Sorry, but here there's no chance for Nando.

samanosuke
09-09-2010, 03:16 PM
Useless thread

Johnny_Bravo
09-09-2010, 05:04 PM
Nadal messed with Feli,we all know what that means :lol:

gbmkc
09-09-2010, 05:36 PM
Nadal seems to have improved. Verdasco seems to have lost some of his game. Nadal in 4. Though I would love to see an upset.

latso
09-09-2010, 05:37 PM
Nadal messed with Feli,we all know what that means :lol:
oh boy Nando's gonna be furious :devil:

Vamos_Me_Rafa
09-09-2010, 05:51 PM
Rafa in 3.

CR3WLFC
09-10-2010, 12:35 AM
if this match is 20% of the match they played in AO we are in for a treat

Vivalavida18
09-10-2010, 08:11 PM
Nadal in 3 easy sets,something like 6-3 6-1 6-2
Nando let the conditions get to him way too much.

FormerRafaFan
09-10-2010, 09:00 PM
if this match is 20% of the match they played in AO we are in for a treat

Well, it wasn't even 1 % of the SF in AO 09..

Nando made his own bed because he choked badly. I still believe AO 09 was the best we've ever seen him, because it just looks like he is scared every time he faces Nadal now. I doubt he'll ever reach that level again. He was in his prime there. Everything clicked, the game, the mental strength. Both seem to be gone now. His game is not as good at it used to be, he is mentally weak at least when it comes to the big points. I know he prefers AO to USO though, so I hope he does better there. And yes, I still have a small hope that will happen. Hell, I didn't thought he would make it through the 1st round against Fognini, but he did. He actually made the QF.